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Speaker 1: I wanted him to be proud and happy. That was

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Speaker 1: Dale Earnhardt in some of the toughest moments, You're just like,

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Speaker 1: how did this happen between you two? You know every

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Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten that like mental to where you're like,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. I

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Speaker 2: am your host, Will Compton. You're the co host. Taylor

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Speaker 2: We have a special this this pod is, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: on the mount busmore. We have Dale Earnhardt Junior flew

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Speaker 2: four wrecked a pod with us for about two How long?

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Speaker 2: How long is the pod blast? Over? Two hours? And

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Speaker 2: telling a story after story after story. If you're not

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Speaker 2: is going to be an incredible episode. If you're big

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Speaker 2: in here that I believe you have not heard. Our boy,

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Speaker 2: And had a couple very detailed, insightful questions that of

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Speaker 2: we knew was Dale Earnheart eight bus. Clearly you want

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Speaker 2: Was on that short list on getting him on the bus,

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Speaker 2: and I can't believe we got him here. I can't

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Speaker 2: But also before we get into the episode, Dale Earnhardt Jr.

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Speaker 2: Mister Chevy himself, we are brought to you by the

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Speaker 2: Chevy Silverado, the strongest, most advanced Silverado ever. The Silverado

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Speaker 2: the people who drive him, Dale ear and Hard Junior

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Speaker 2: and you. The design is big, bowl, commanding, with grit determination,

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Speaker 2: that tailgating, hauling, towing, off roading, moving day, helping out

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Speaker 2: a Chevy Silverado. Like Daleernard Junior did it, can do

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Speaker 2: it all, bro Go to a Chevy dealership near you,

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Speaker 2: let him know the boy sent you. As you've seen

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Speaker 2: Let him know the boy sent you video do all

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Speaker 2: Our Hawaiian shirts are the Boys Live Dudes Neon sign themed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. First question, how does it feel to be a legend? Dale?

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Speaker 1: How did it feel? Yeah that I've never thought of

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Speaker 3: That's that's awesome. So when you went back in the house,

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Speaker 2: He he was, he was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yes, any kids listening, all you run out

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Speaker 2: But I had. I just had to do it.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think you hold guilt from it? I

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Speaker 3: I didn't want it, Yeah, I didn't want it, no question.

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Speaker 3: It seems like you got exactly like you learned a

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Speaker 1: That out right.

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Speaker 1: It didn't take any comments for you to get in

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Speaker 2: Did Joe Rogan pod This is probably like a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. Yeah, I remember you're talking about like

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Speaker 1: I wasn't an athlete. I was. I had no achievement none,

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Speaker 1: to be an artist. What gave you all that opinion?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: I want to race? Man? Like, where is what the hell?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And uh, anyways, finally, finally, you know, I started to

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Speaker 1: I went down to Myrtle Beach and I was racing,

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Speaker 2: And damn it.

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Speaker 1: I mean literally, I'm in the same situation the next weekend,

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Speaker 3: Were you to tell about that situation once he did

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Speaker 2: It was good.

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Speaker 1: It was good I had. There was a lot of

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Speaker 1: It's kind of it can be like that sometimes, like

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Speaker 1: I started well, I started seeing the racing creating that relationship,

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Speaker 1: and so I wanted to do whatever I could do

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Speaker 1: to get more of that relationship from him, right, And

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Speaker 1: so I started, you know we you know, winning and

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Speaker 1: all those things were not to be so cliche, but

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Speaker 1: I wanted him to be proud and happy. That was

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Speaker 1: way more than important than a trophy or or anyone

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Speaker 1: else patting my back, right, And so he was absolutely

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Speaker 1: the main motivation for me early in my career. You know,

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Speaker 1: when he passed, that was gone. I mean it was gone,

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Speaker 1: and I had to figure out another thing to motivate me, right,

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Speaker 1: I had to find other things that got me out

480
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Speaker 1: of bed and got me fired up about racing. But

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Speaker 1: for the longest time, it was trying to impress him. Man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy has done everything. He's won all

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Speaker 1: these championships, and he's hard to impress. Yeah, and you're

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Speaker 1: doing the very thing that he's the best at. You

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Speaker 1: can't do, really, what can you do that he's never

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Speaker 1: seen or thinks it's cool?

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Speaker 2: Right, But everybody thinks like, oh, your down's sign, Like

488
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Speaker 2: you don't thinks he's awesome. And see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a there's a big feeling of like

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Speaker 3: did you feel like you were in his shadow your

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Speaker 3: whole life.

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Speaker 1: Mhm, No, I didn't. I I always read about that.

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Speaker 1: I always seen that written, you know, and uh, I

494
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Speaker 1: always I felt I felt like other people saw me

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Speaker 1: in his shadow. But if I was, it was a

496
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Speaker 1: hell of a place to be. Yeah, it was. Yeah, No, lie,

497
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Speaker 1: like I understand, and I'm I'm first admit like being

498
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Speaker 1: his son opened tons of doors wide open and made

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Speaker 1: a lot of challenges for for an average guy trying

500
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Speaker 1: to get in a sport much easier for me, and

501
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: already I had like a built in fan base before

502
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Speaker 1: I ever accomplished anything on the track with my last name. People,

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Speaker 1: they were expectations, but they also would support uh that

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Speaker 1: that I hadn't earned at that point. Yeah, so the benefits, yeah,

505
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: were way better than what negatives came with it. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I sid know.

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Speaker 3: I mean when you go into i've never this has

508
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Speaker 3: never been a situation for me, right, My dad didn't

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Speaker 3: play football or anything like that, so I never had

510
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Speaker 3: to like felt the need to overcome or impress him

511
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Speaker 3: that way. My dad played college ball for a second.

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Speaker 3: But I mean when you spend your whole life kind

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Speaker 3: of feeling out like how can I get dad to

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Speaker 3: notice how good I'm doing it.

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Speaker 1: These things.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if once you got into NASCAR, if

517
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: it was like, I don't know this, this thought of

518
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Speaker 3: like I want to make did you ever want to

519
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Speaker 3: up him?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever want to beat him?

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Speaker 3: And that's that shadow is a tough word to use

522
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Speaker 3: because it sounds like, I don't know if it sounds negative,

523
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Speaker 3: but I'm saying like, once you're in that thing with him,

524
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Speaker 3: there there was no like that's dad, Dad's gotta went

525
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Speaker 3: like you wanted to beat your dad.

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Speaker 1: We went to Japan. I had raced in the the

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Speaker 1: Exfinity Series, which is kind of like college level or

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00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: it's it's like Triple A and the next Steps to

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Speaker 1: Cup series, where Dad's at. I won the championship, and

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Speaker 1: so I got an invitation to race in an exhibition

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Speaker 1: in Japan with Cup racers and Dad, and it would

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Speaker 1: be the first time I'd ever be on the track

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Speaker 1: with him. And when I got to Japan, we flew

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Speaker 1: all the way over there and I'm sitting on Pitt

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Speaker 1: Road and I'm waiting on Dad because I want to

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Speaker 1: follow him out on the track because I'd never seen him.

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Speaker 1: From that vantage point, it was like following. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't like to compare him to other

539
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: other icons because I don't know how people feel about it.

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00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: But it's like walking behind Muhammad Ali as he goes

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Speaker 1: to the ring right climbs in. You know, that's a

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Speaker 1: hell of advantage point that a lot of people would

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Speaker 1: love to have being in a in the ring when

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Speaker 1: Rick Flair climbed into it, right, being able to see

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Speaker 1: that moment when he climbs in with that robe on

546
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Speaker 1: at you know, at a big event across some dusty roads, right,

547
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, just that moment of that energy. So I

548
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: know it was just practice, but I'm I'm never seen

549
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: the Black three car. I've never seen the Intimiday or

550
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Dylan her I've never looked at my windshield and seen

551
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: it right raced against all these other guys. And so

552
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: I remember that he pulls out on the track and

553
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: I followed him out there, and I mean, I'm doing nothing.

554
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, not in game mode. I'm not in focus

555
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: of what my car is doing. I'm just like, I

556
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: can't believe that it's him.

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00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 2: I'm kind of smiling.

558
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he was in there steering that car.

559
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. And then two days later, like

560
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: we practiced qualify. Two days later, in the race, we're running,

561
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: We're bad indoors and I'm pissing him off and he's mad.

562
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: So a little extra froom too when he got to him.

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00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: So this is how it kind of worked out. We

564
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Speaker 1: I ran really good and he he ran like sixth

565
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: to eighth the whole day. It's an exhibition, and he's

566
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: just kind of going through the motions. He didn't have

567
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: a great car and he knew it, and he's just

568
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: kind of like, Hey, we're here to put on a show,

569
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Speaker 1: and it is what it is, right. I'm like, hell no, man,

570
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm here to win. Willed this car to victory, right,

571
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: and this is my chance, and so I'm raising my

572
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: guts out way over my head. But I got up

573
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: toward the front and got up the second at one

574
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: point and I bounced off the wall being too crazy.

575
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: And anyways, late in the race, we're both running around

576
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: fifth and sixth and we had a caution and I

577
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: had a chance. Everybody has a chance to come on.

578
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: Put a set of tires and it's a little bit

579
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Speaker 1: faster with new tires, and I said to my crea chief,

580
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Speaker 1: Tony Junior, my cousin. He's my cousin too, about a

581
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: year apart, really close, and uh I said, hey, man,

582
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Speaker 1: I wanna cous come get tires and see what happens.

583
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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna we're gonna win like this. Let's put

584
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Speaker 1: some tires on and see what happens. So he's like,

585
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: all right, we ain't got no tires, but your dad's

586
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: got to sit in his pit. I'll see if I

587
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: can get them. So our pits are side by side, Yeah,

588
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: side by side. It wouldn't be an issue if he

589
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: gave it to you or not. Our pits are together, right.

590
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: We have teammates, right, we got the same sponsor. It's

591
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: this coke we had this Coca cola reduction thing. We

592
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Speaker 1: went to the we did the photo shoots together. We're

593
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Speaker 1: like this team, right, And so Tony Junior's on the

594
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Speaker 1: pit box and he's like, hey to Richard Childers, whose

595
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Speaker 1: dad's carling, And he's like, y'all gonna have pit and

596
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: get them tires. Richard's like, we ain't coming. Then, ain't coming.

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Speaker 1: He's just gonna finish this out. Yeah, Well we're gonna pit.

598
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: You might if we have those tires, take them, no problem. Okay,

599
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: here we come, try on down pit road, put them on.

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Speaker 1: Dad don't know what all this is going on, and

601
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know where the tires come from. I

602
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: just come down pit road and get tires.

603
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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 1: I go back on the track and I lined up

605
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: like tenth and there's a real short five lap sprint

606
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: to the end, and it's you gotta go. It's you

607
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: can't lift, you can't take, you can't check up for something. Uh,

608
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: you gotta go? What does check up?

609
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: Men?

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00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: You can't lift.

611
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: If it's something happening in front of you, and you

612
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Speaker 1: check up off the gas or lift off the throttle,

613
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: you it'll take you another lap to build up your momentum.

614
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: And it's a lap that's gone. And if with five

615
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: of that, with five laps to go, you just don't

616
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Speaker 1: have time to be waiting on things to happen in

617
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: front of you. You just try to make gup. Just

618
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: go for it, right. So the so the green flag

619
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: drops and I gotta I got things happening. I'm passing

620
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: a couple of cars and I get to Dad really quickly.

621
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Speaker 1: I get up beside him, down the back straight away

622
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: and we go into turn three and four and I'm

623
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Speaker 1: going by him. I have the faster car, the new tires.

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00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: He saw me coming, he knows I'm quicker. And we're

625
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: coming up off a turn four and he's he's hanging

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00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: on my right rear qorder panel as we're coming off

627
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Speaker 1: the corner. And traditionally, in a situation like that, you

628
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: want the guy. You want the guy that's in Dad's

629
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: position to just let you go. You're faster, you're coming through.

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Speaker 1: But if he stays there, I can't really finish the corner.

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Speaker 1: I can't get all the gas down. It's gonna slow

632
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: me down. On the straightaway, we're gonna run down the

633
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: next straightaway side beside when I could be trying to

634
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: pass the next car. It was gonna hold me up.

635
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: And and so I.

636
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: Squeezed him into the wall and and we hit, and

637
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: his nose slid up under my bumper, and now he

638
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: has me in a bad position and he knows it.

639
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: And so he's picked my rear tires off the ground

640
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: and he's steering my car like a forklift down the straightaway.

641
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: He could have just let you go. He should have

642
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: let me go. Should have or could have. He could have,

643
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: but he but he didn't. He's like he's like, he's like,

644
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you only You're like you only got

645
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: an inch on me, and you could just let me

646
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: go and I could be on my way. And we

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Speaker 1: bang and then he's got me lifted up off the

648
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: ground and he's turned me sideways down the straight ofa way.

649
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: My car's doing this to the flagstand and he lifted

650
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: and let me go. He was mad, right, and so

651
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: but I thought it was over.

652
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: I go on.

653
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I passed another car to and finished like fifth or something,

654
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: and uh, he's eight these a couple of spots back.

655
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: So the race is over. And I'm like, that was badass.

656
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 1: And I beat my dad, you know what I mean?

657
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: And he knows I beam.

658
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: I was.

659
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: This ship just happened, right, And so it was really cold.

660
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: But I remember they had, uh it was in the

661
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: middle of the winter. They had they had inside the

662
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: track these little rented cubicles like trailers like you see

663
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: on job sites, and each driver our team had one

664
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: and me and Dad were sharing one. I go into

665
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: the one that we have. It's cold as hell outside.

666
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I go in there and I'm gonna change clothes. And

667
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: I sit down and I'm changing clothes and there's this

668
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: big fold folding leg table in front of me, and

669
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm pulling off my shoes and

670
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: my taking my taking my uniform down. And Dad comes

671
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: in and sits down, and I just look at him,

672
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: and he isn't making eye contact with me, and I

673
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: know he's not. He's bad. I look at him and

674
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: he's bending over and pulling his shoe off, and I

675
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: go and so as soon as I look down, he

676
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: threw his shoe as hard as he could and it

677
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: went right over my head as I lean been down

678
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: to get get one of my shoes off. If I

679
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: hadn't a bent down, it'll hit me. It hit the

680
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: ball behind me. It was like pow. And I looked

681
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: back up and he was bending down to get the

682
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: other shoe, and somebody opens the door and says, hey, Junior,

683
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: they need it, they need you out here for an interview.

684
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like thanks, I'm going.

685
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,520
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686
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: We we never talked about it, and you about it

687
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,680
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688
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
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Speaker 1: We had run ins after that on the racetrack. We

717
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: were at Bristol one day. Uh, it's my first Cup

718
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: race at Bristol in two thousand. Bristol is a high

719
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: bank concrete, a half mile track and you run there

720
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: about fifteen sixteen second laps, silly fast, and it's wild

721
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: to race. And so I just knew. I'm like, I'm

722
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna tear up a bunch of stuff today. This is

723
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: just gonna happen. There's no bunch stuff on you.

724
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: You're in a mess.

725
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna right my car. This is a five hundred

726
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: mile race and this time bull ring, and I'm young

727
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: and dumb. Yeah, I'm gonna make a bunch of mistakes.

728
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: Take We're just Bobby out there. I just want to

729
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: go fast, get after it. Just how much do you

730
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: hit do you love that movie or hate it? Sorry,

731
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: I like it.

732
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: You like it?

733
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: I got a story about that, all right, stories for days.

734
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: Baby, You're the best you ever. It's like I'm sitting here,

735
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm really just enjoying your company. I wish there was

736
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 3: a fire.

737
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: Pit right here. We're like smiling as it's going.

738
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: I guess it's over. Yeah, one hundred percent. Sometimes you

739
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: get guys on here.

740
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Look at each other and talking.

741
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: Hopefully the guy comes into it like three word answers. Yeah,

742
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, well this is going downhill fast,

743
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: but no, sorry, I keep going. I don't want to

744
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: kill your loving every second of this. We're Bristol and

745
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I qualified in front of Dad, and uh beside me

746
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: is a friend named Elliott Sadler and he's on the

747
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: inside and I'm on the outside and Dad's behind us. Well,

748
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: me and Elliot are talking just about getting our cars.

749
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: Dad walks up and goes, all right, boys, bristles stuff

750
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: long race tds now, don't taste stuff. You can wreck

751
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: your stuff early long day. Like yes, sir, I mean

752
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I still think in my head I hear you, but

753
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: I am totally gonna ruin this. You knew you were

754
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: conscious of the chaos, I was about to go down,

755
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: and so all right, first lap, we're going down into

756
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: turn green flag comes out. We're running about three or

757
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: four corners and we go into turn one and Dad

758
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: runs in the back of Elliott Saler. Elliott Saler gets

759
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: loose and like sideways over corrects up the racetrack right

760
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: into me. Wow, me and Elli goes smashing into the wall.

761
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Race is over for me and that's his fault, right,

762
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: So so you got the boot when he's coming back

763
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: in to come down, Well, they drag me and Elliott's

764
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: cars into the garage and my team goes to work

765
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: on my car. We end up fixing it, and we

766
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: fix it and repair it and we go back out

767
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: and we're like one hundred laps down, like all these

768
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: laps have passed right as we're working on our stuff.

769
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: First time Dad comes by I turn. He comes by me,

770
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: and I just turned the wheel to the right and

771
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: just lay like lay my right front tire all down

772
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: the side of his car.

773
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: He's going by and he sent a message watching this,

774
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: spatting family members getting.

775
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: After he sends this message, like tell him to cut

776
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: it out. He's going to find another driver, but he

777
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: sent his he sent a message via his team to

778
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: my team to tell me to stop it, to get

779
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: a telephone. Yeah, they can tell you whatever they want.

780
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: And so, but we had we had other moments kind

781
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: of like that. But I mean, you know when the

782
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: funny thing about it being in a race car is that,

783
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, the the race car turns into for lack

784
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: of a better word, a bit of a weapon. Sometimes

785
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: you get so angry and you're like, I can take

786
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: this car and run into your car. That's sounds I'm

787
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: gonna do that. You know, before you you have such

788
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: a thought to you know, before you have a moment

789
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: to think twice about it and calm the hell down.

790
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes you do that on the race track, and even

791
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: if it's your own dad, you know, like you did

792
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: this to me?

793
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hunter laughs, down doesn't doesn't where was seeing the

794
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: race when he's like running top ten, cruising hawks.

795
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: He's out there cruising like, hey man, sorry, but I've

796
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: already forgot.

797
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah what happened? That's aside from your dad. Have you

798
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: ever gotten that like mental to where you're like, I'm

799
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna wreck this car. Another guy right, like

800
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: a different guy a different person. Yes, it happened.

801
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I yeah, Kyle b Yeah the rivalry.

802
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: Is this a known rivalry that you're talking.

803
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Kyle and me were really big rivals at

804
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: this particular point in my career, and he, uh, what

805
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: point is this two thousand and eight and.

806
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: You guys are you guys are big rivals? Is it

807
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: a dislike rivalry or is it like, hey, we'll we're

808
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: on the.

809
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: Track all we don't like them. I don't like them.

810
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Zach was probably back there like you're an idiot, Taylor,

811
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: like you have no idea. So he's he was, he

812
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: was like we he was just we just didn't like

813
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: each other. And so this was there an incident at

814
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: the bar.

815
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: Y Bobby.

816
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: Trying to make you say something like that. You know

817
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So first off, let me tell the

818
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: Ricky Bobby store.

819
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love to hear it.

820
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: All right, Ricky Bobby and tallading Ice comes out or

821
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: it's coming out right, and we're gonna get to see

822
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: it before it goes to theaters. And uh, we're in

823
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: Sonoma racing in California and they're like, yeah, you're gonna

824
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: go over to what's the name of that place George

825
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Lucas's Ranch Star Wars Skywalker runt. You're gonna go over

826
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: to the ranch and watch it. And we're like, damn,

827
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm all right, so that's cool. What does that mean?

828
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: So we drive in and it's beautiful, and it's just

829
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 3: all the guys are going there, my team, Yeah, because

830
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: you were were you in the movie?

831
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: You?

832
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: I had a little tiny thing, Yeah, a little for

833
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: an autograph?

834
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: Right? How was that?

835
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: How many times five? Really?

836
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

837
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't that mean professional? Yeah? I like that that

838
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: or we just weren't gonna get any better. Yeah, we're

839
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: getting progressively worse for these take Okay, let's just shut

840
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: it down. So you know, we're driving into this place

841
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: and and and they're like, yeah, he makes it. They

842
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: they make movies here. There's a bunch of movies. So

843
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: we're walking in the building and there's all these movie theaters,

844
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: and there's all these little rooms of for editing, and

845
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: and they they basically sit there and watch the They

846
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: work on these films from the point of view of

847
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: the of the movie goer, right, and so they're editing

848
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: and creating these films in that atmosphere of a movie theater.

849
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: And uh, which was really cool, was a big complex

850
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: you you would would you might imagine they're sitting in

851
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: front of a computer in an office right editing this film,

852
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: but at some point they actually get into a movie

853
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: theater and complete the editing process or whatever and do

854
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: all the audio and all that. So anyways, it's really neat.

855
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: And we sit down in this one theater and there's

856
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: probably about thirty seats in it, and probably about ten

857
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: rows of seats, and uh, maybe there's more more than

858
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: thirty seats, but it just was a small, miniature sort

859
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: of sized theater room. And we sit down and I

860
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: choose a seat sort of in the middle. There's on

861
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: the front, the front of the theater guy, you're back

862
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: of the theater guy. Middle. Oh, if up, there's better, back,

863
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: there's better. I'm just gonna be right in the center.

864
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: And there's only about twelve of us. We're not we're

865
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: only about ten percent of the seats in this thing, right,

866
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: so a lot of empty seats and right and right,

867
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: and we're sitting there waiting, you know, and right before

868
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: the thing comes on, George Lucas comes and sits.

869
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 2: Down behind me and all right on being chill Yeah.

870
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: I was one shock to see him, right, and and

871
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: had never thought I'd ever meet the guy. But what

872
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: is he doing watching Telene Nights right?

873
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

874
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Exactly? Why does he care to watch this movie?

875
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: There's millions of movies can be like, yeah, but uh,

876
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: and I'm watching I'm kind of sad and I'm like,

877
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: and he's chuckling at that.

878
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: That's pretty up. I think that's funny too. After this,

879
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: we could talk about the movie and he's not even

880
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: like listening to the movie.

881
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: He's just listening.

882
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Damn. He thinks this is good. I think he's good too.

883
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean I like it, but now he likes it.

884
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: It was weird, man, but it was uh and he uh,

885
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, after everything was done, you know, he was

886
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: very nice to everybody. Hey, yes, thank you for coming.

887
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always cool.

888
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: So it sounds like that's an awesome, insane that is

889
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: so bad.

890
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: That you get to see like a like a Yoda

891
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: like figure.

892
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: None of that was happening.

893
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: There was no just hasn't just with the Skywalker rant,

894
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you don't know if like

895
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: the actual Star Wars actual Star I'm talking about just

896
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: to figure sitting there. It's not like, yeah, no, Yoda's

897
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: not a real thing, a real being.

898
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm aware. I was trying to help you be aware

899
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: of that. I don't know if you had a thing.

900
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: No, I know how you are.

901
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 3: But your Star Wars, yeah, I wish there was Star Wars.

902
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: But I'm sharing the enthusiasm with both of.

903
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: You, right, Yeah, I'm not a massive fan, but I

904
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: know him. Yeah he is, well, I know, yeah, absolutely.

905
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Being a filmmaker's got to be one of the most

906
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: difficult jobs to do because you're literally praying that people

907
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: like it. And if it's like your hopes and dreams

908
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: are on other people's opinions, God, that's got to be

909
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: a tough li And when.

910
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: You're like making a certain decision that you might think

911
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 2: is cool for seeing, you might have just one opinion

912
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: next to you, like say, say I'm making something I'll

913
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: make I think it's dope, and I'm like, hey, what

914
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: are you thinking that. You're like, yeah, but maybe this

915
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: and your one opinions like, oh man, maybe maybe everyone

916
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: feels that way. Yeah, And then you changed. You're like, well,

917
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna do this. Everybody's like, oh, you should

918
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: have kept it that way.

919
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: You're like, fuck, you are you quitting Tarantina fan? Yeah, yeah,

920
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: well he just did it.

921
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: Just said a pop with Rogan. They were talking about

922
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: a specific true romance. Yeah, yeah, true not true romances

923
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: of our dogs. Yeah, the torture scene in that have

924
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: you seen that movie?

925
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: Yes?

926
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: And then the scene where he cuts the guy's ear

927
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: off and stuff like that, and Quentin was like, this

928
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: is happening, and a couple guys were like, hey, listen,

929
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: if you put this scene in the movie, you put

930
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: your margin for the people that are going to come

931
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 3: watch it, because it was like after.

932
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: Like the eighties or not like some decade like the eighties.

933
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: It's always a superhero.

934
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah that was a good is it?

935
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: I have listened the whole thing?

936
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Big fan Charles like, who is this talking?

937
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: Like?

938
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: It's Quink Tarantino.

939
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is my favorite director. Yeah by far. Sorry sorry, Yeah,

940
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: it's a good movie. Yeah, good movie.

941
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: He makes a lot of good What story were we

942
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: headed to before the Kyle Busch Kyle the rivalry you

943
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: were trying to kill him?

944
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: Told story? This is told a lot. I tell this

945
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: one a lot, but you oh you do you know?

946
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: I want to know I learned that you got a

947
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: new audience every time you're in front of the mic.

948
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's never the same.

949
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: So have you ever told your side of the story

950
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: about why you hate him, why you hated him? Yeah?

951
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: So, I don't know, maybe we'll tell a little different this.

952
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: Do we still hate him now?

953
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: No?

954
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't hate him? No, he's great?

955
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: All right?

956
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Oh well the story? Why did you guys go to dinner?

957
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: No?

958
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Okay? Is he ain't great? Well, he's fine. That's better.

959
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: There you go. Now we're getting somewhere. And now we're

960
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: getting somewhere. Yeah.

961
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: So anyways, he's we're racing against each other. He racist

962
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: for Rick Hendrick, and I raced for for Dad. And

963
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: he was a rookie and he did something at a

964
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: racetrack and and uh, I said to the media that

965
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: Kyle made a mistake and he'll figure it out. And

966
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: he took offense to that. He's a rookie.

967
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: How how you've been in the game for eight years now,

968
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 3: maybe not that long way, this is before that, okay,

969
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: but I've been in doing it for six years maybe okay.

970
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: And uh, but anyways, someone asked me a question. I

971
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: just said, you know, he made a mistake and and

972
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: he'll figure that out. What was what was the mistakes?

973
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: Like he calls the crash or something or or a

974
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: couple of guys ended up crashing because of something he did.

975
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: I can't read. Yeah, I don't even remember. It's not

976
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: a big deal. And we went to uh that set

977
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: our that set us on that path, all right. He

978
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: took offense to that, and we weren't We weren't friendly

979
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: from that point on, but we didn't say anything about

980
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: each other. He wasn't dig he wasn't digging me in

981
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: the media or nothing.

982
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: And so.

983
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: There was a race at Texas. His car crashed and

984
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: there was a miscommunication between him and his team. He

985
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: left the track and the car got repaired and they

986
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: didn't have where's he at? They need to put him

987
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: back in it to go finish a few laps. And

988
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: they saw me in the garage and said, hey, are

989
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: you get in this car? We got like eight laps

990
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: to go. We just need you to go out there

991
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: and run the rest of this race. And I'm like, absolutely,

992
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm diving in this thing head first because I wanted

993
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: to feel what kind of engine they build. It's like, man,

994
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: you never get a chance to drive another team's car

995
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: to feel the things about what kind of car did

996
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: he drive? He drove Rick Hendrick's car. And they build

997
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: their own motors and we build our motors, and I

998
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: just you know, they're very good. They win a lot,

999
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, damn right, I'll drive it. And

1000
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: so I I drove it a few laps and when

1001
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: it was done, they were like, hey, man, appreciate doing

1002
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: this solid and we'll see you.

1003
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: And that was it.

1004
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Nothing, There was nothing. I didn't. It wasn't. It wasn't

1005
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: in spite, it wasn't a spike Kyle. But he was

1006
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: mad again, Right, I drove his car. Right, It's like

1007
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: I took his took his girlfriend out, and you know,

1008
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: I mean.

1009
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: And so.

1010
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: That's a reference. Yea day had a seafood dinner, never

1011
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: called her back. It was he he I'm an old

1012
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: school guy where relief driving is a cool thing and

1013
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: and it happened all the time in the seventies and

1014
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm totally a throwback and nostalgic. And that's freaking yes.

1015
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: I've never been asked to relief drive for somebody, Right,

1016
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: I'll do it, and uh, and he wouldn't. He ain't

1017
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: from that school, and so he was like, nobody drives

1018
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: my car but meat, right, And so anyways, him and is,

1019
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Him and Rick are having some difficulties on his contracts

1020
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: and whether he wants whether he's going to continue to

1021
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: drive there or not, and they decide that that's not happening.

1022
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: So they've made a choice, and now Rick's going out

1023
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: to find a driver and he offered me a deal

1024
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: and I took it, and so Kyle viewed that as

1025
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: me taking his job. And Kyle then was now cast

1026
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: into free agency and had to take whatever the best officer,

1027
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: so he didn't have a car yet.

1028
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: They decided not to do a contract, went to you

1029
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: got the contract, and he's in free agency and.

1030
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: He gets hired by Joe Gibbs. This works out tremendously

1031
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: for him in the short run and the long run,

1032
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: but he was upset at the time and was like

1033
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: feeling rejected by Rick Hendrick. Rick's this ultra freaking respected

1034
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: guy in the sport, and if you get rejected by him,

1035
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: there must be something wrong with you, right, And he

1036
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: read that. And so when we started racing the next year,

1037
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: and I'm in his car and he's in the Joe

1038
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Gibbs car. It was me against him. That's the way

1039
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: he saw it, and that's the way I kind of

1040
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: saw it. We're racing at Richmond, We're running first and

1041
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: second in the points. The whole year pretty much, great storyline.

1042
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: He's winning quite a he's winning a hell of a

1043
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: lot of races too. Things are going well for him.

1044
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: I only won at Michigan. I had a great year,

1045
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: but I only won the one race. I'm leading at

1046
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Richmond and it's like four or five laps to go

1047
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: and I'm running the top of the race track. I

1048
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: run the high side. Kyle's right behind me, and I'm

1049
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna give him the bottom of the track. He's got

1050
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: more than enough room. And we go down into turn

1051
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: three and he gets loose and collects me. I reckon

1052
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: the wall. He goes up the track and he loses

1053
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: the lead. Another guy ends up winning the race. And

1054
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, I understand he got loose.

1055
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he just went in there and turned

1056
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: right and hit me. Loose means like when he turned

1057
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: down in the corner, his rear tire started sliding like

1058
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: if he was in water or ice. It was not

1059
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: it was an accident, right. It was like he went in,

1060
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: he went in the corner hoping that his car was

1061
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: gonna stick and he was gonna pass me. Yeah, right,

1062
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: But his car didn't stick, and it's the back slid

1063
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: and he had to turn right to correct it, which

1064
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: drove him up the track into my door, and it

1065
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: turned me around when we hit. But it also cost

1066
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: him the race too.

1067
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: And so.

1068
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: He's a good enough race car driver to know how

1069
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: to intentionally if he was trying to intentionally crash me,

1070
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: he's good enough to just go in there and move

1071
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: me out of the way and go on and win.

1072
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: So I know that it just, you know, I know,

1073
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: just watching him by how all that went down, that

1074
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: he didn't really intend for that to happen. But he

1075
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: was absolutely unapologetic, and of course, I mean, he wasn't

1076
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, I'm sorry, that was wrong. I shouldn't

1077
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: have done that was bad for me, and and and

1078
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: and I don't ever want to He just let it.

1079
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 1: He didn't even say anything right and kind of played

1080
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. And now I got it.

1081
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: I got the media coming to me, going game. He

1082
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: usually got wrecked by that guy. He's he's your archrival.

1083
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: He's your enemy. You and him.

1084
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: Now.

1085
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: The media is in love with this. Media loves it.

1086
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: Every week, right, They're going to him. Hey, Neil said this,

1087
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, help with him? Now, Hey,

1088
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: Kyle just said ten minutes to go to hell with you?

1089
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: What do you think? And they just going at us

1090
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: every week, right, And we have these obligations to the media.

1091
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: We had to be obligation. You had to be there.

1092
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: And so they knew they were going to get a

1093
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: sound bite. And Kyle was not great at biting his tongue.

1094
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: And so if he says something, now I gotta say something.

1095
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: Is there Is there a fine system put in place

1096
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: with NASCAR, Like you see you can say whatever you want.

1097
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Ricky, listen that that's little of this whole podcast.

1098
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: We're really hanging out on this. We go back to

1099
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Richmond later in the year and the back end of

1100
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: the summer, and uh, the it's early, it's midway through

1101
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: the race, it's not near the end. It's not in

1102
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: the same scenario. But Kyle's leading and I'm running second,

1103
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: and I went into turn one and tried my hardest

1104
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: to put him in the wall, and uh, he's I

1105
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: ran into the back of him and he slid up

1106
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: the track and backed into the fence and spun down

1107
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: the track. He ended up being able to finish the race,

1108
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: But that was maybe the one I can I can

1109
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: say I probably intentionally wrecked somebody. Let's I can't count

1110
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: him on two hands. I may be counted on one hand,

1111
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: right in twenty years of racing, and that was that

1112
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: was one of them. And I was I was in

1113
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: the situation that race. No, I don't know, I don't

1114
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: think so, but yeah, probably not buddies back there. But

1115
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, man, I was in a situation where like,

1116
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: if I didn't wreck team, I felt like everybody was

1117
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna go ooh, you're solved. If you don't, you know,

1118
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: here you are, here's your here's your opportunity. Man, y'all

1119
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: media is painted y'all into a corners as the arc

1120
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: rivals and and he says dirty shit about you, and

1121
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: you say shit about him, and now here's your chance. Man,

1122
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna talk talk and walk the walk

1123
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: and all that. So I was like, I don't, I

1124
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: can't not, man, that media puts you in a little

1125
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Speaker 1: bit of a deal. Huh, put you a little bit

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00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:26,600
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, how many exchanges with Kyle did you have in

1170
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: like like you and I talking right now, like face

1171
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: to face.

1172
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: Do you ever look at him? Hey Kyle? Sood No?

1173
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: Did you mentioned there's Twitter back then?

1174
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh? Shit?

1175
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: That was a.

1176
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: There was one. So and this is what I don't tell.

1177
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1178
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: We and Kyle's Kyle. You can get Kyle's version of it.

1179
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 1: It might be different.

1180
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: I was welcome on this podcast. Yeah, I was welcome

1181
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: you you this is your second time on't.

1182
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 2: Bus.

1183
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: You should have him. We were at Phoenix and this

1184
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: is toward the This is around p R. Yeah, this

1185
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: is around twenty fourteen. Things aren't going well for me.

1186
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm having a down year, pretty frustrating year.

1187
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: And uh.

1188
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: It's practice. I'm going down the back straight away and

1189
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm slowing down and coming into the pits and I

1190
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: get to the apron and Kyle's going Kyle's behind me

1191
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: and he's coming by, and I guess I was too

1192
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: close to the racetrack. He didn't like where I was

1193
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: at and it was appeeding, and it was bothering him

1194
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: and his focus and his really the racetrack. I moved

1195
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: here in the no I slowed down and got on

1196
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: the apron to come into the pits. And he's coming

1197
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: by me on the racetrack and uh, and he you

1198
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: didn't like something about what I did? You flip me

1199
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: the bird in the car out window through the net? Yeah,

1200
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: he sticks it out in front of the net like this.

1201
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, did he get the full handout? Are

1202
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: they enough to put your hand out? Or you saw

1203
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: enough of a knuckle to know that's knew what it was,

1204
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: all right? And I pulled into the garage and I

1205
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: just it just sent me over the edge. So yeah,

1206
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: practice in so calm, like you think, there's nothing, nothing's

1207
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: going to bother this guy. Pull out. He's out of here,

1208
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: you know. So the practice ends and I debrief with

1209
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: my team and and I'm I'm frustrated with my car

1210
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: has just been in a bad season. And then that

1211
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: happened and I went, I'm gonna go to my holler,

1212
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: and I see his holler and I'm like, I'm going

1213
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: in there, oh ship, And if he's in there, I

1214
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: will confront him about it, and I walked up. I

1215
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: walked up into his haller, which is an eighteen wheeler trailer,

1216
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: and you walk to the very front of the trailer

1217
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: and there's a lounge and in the lounge is Kyle

1218
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: and it's crew chief, and I know it's crew chief

1219
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: to be one. And I said, Kyle, if you ever

1220
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: flip me off again, I'm gonna rip your head off

1221
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna beat the hell

1222
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: out of you. And I just said everything I could

1223
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: just say moment and he's sitting there going you told

1224
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: me you were to kill him. Yeah, we had to

1225
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: talk about.

1226
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: That the other way. We really did, because you know,

1227
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: what's his name, I'm gonna kill you, Taylor says.

1228
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: He gets I just don't think that's that big of

1229
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: a deal because it's like, I don't know, it could happen,

1230
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: but you're not gonna kill knock him out, hopefully.

1231
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't the car being a weapon at some point.

1232
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Because questions, emotions get the best of you do. So

1233
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: you tell this guy everything I wanted to tell him,

1234
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: and I I'd never ever do that, right, That's that

1235
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: a character for me, But it was to a point

1236
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: to where I was done. I needed to tell this

1237
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: guy to knock it off right. The words in the media,

1238
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: the bird, the this, the disrespect is just got to

1239
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: come to an end. You're gonna respect me, and you're

1240
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: not gonna you're not gonna look at me the way

1241
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: you're looking at me and perceive me the way you

1242
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: perceive me. You're gonna you're gonna respect me when we're

1243
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: here together to racetrack. And so I said what I

1244
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: had to say, and I turned around and walked out.

1245
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: He didn't say a word. God, that must have change

1246
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: your ass a little bit that he didn't say nothing.

1247
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: But I didn't want him to respond to me.

1248
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: You just said it and turn around and you walked out.

1249
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want him to respond to me. And his

1250
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: his crew chief didn't didn't move, and like it. It

1251
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: was what I wanted it to be. Yeah, you know,

1252
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: I feel like that if I didn't want anything to

1253
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: happen to where it would have gotten physical, it probably

1254
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: would have easily gotten that way. It's good that nothing

1255
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: happened to where it became physical. It's kind of dude.

1256
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: He's tall. He's tall, but he's not now, Okay, I

1257
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: mean yeah, you're okay. He's taller. He's taller than me

1258
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: five ten and a half.

1259
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: That I love that half.

1260
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: Sad half.

1261
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: You get the detailed question. Looking back on it, he

1262
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 3: stood up and said, all right, I'll kill you right now.

1263
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 3: He had to have found out who was gonna be

1264
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: like that, So you think you could have taken him?

1265
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, is are you back there?

1266
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 1: Story where you got in his car? Yeah, he's pretty skinny. Yeah,

1267
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not. I don't have enough. We'll I

1268
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: don't know what my ability is. Yeah, that's understandable.

1269
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 3: I mean, no one can really fight unless you're a fighter, right,

1270
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: Like all of us can sit here and talk about

1271
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: what every At the end of the day we fight for.

1272
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: There's buttons all over this chick.

1273
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: I might be hard for twenty seconds. We're all we're

1274
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: both tired.

1275
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: We're like, all right, hey, guys, get twenty get the

1276
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: hell out of here. But you used to think I

1277
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: can fight. We all did, yeah with one right, Yeah,

1278
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: at at one.

1279
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: Point we all think we still do. Come on, we're

1280
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: on cameras. I don't know.

1281
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: Once I started getting kids, I was like, I don't

1282
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 3: know who am I fighting dude, Yeah, only my daughter's

1283
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: assumed me fighting somebody, you know, practice, no problem.

1284
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: It felt good though. I was glad to do it,

1285
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: and it got it. I think it changed our relationship. So,

1286
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, years later he's he texted me one day

1287
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: and he's like, Hey, We're at a race track somewhere.

1288
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, I want to talk to you about

1289
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: some race. He owns the team and I owned the team.

1290
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to compare some things that y'all

1291
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: are doing with what I'm doing on my business. How

1292
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: far after probably four years after the Richmond incident, okay,

1293
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: four or five years.

1294
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: Four or five years, so you guys lines of communication

1295
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: after that, and the media kind of stopped. You guys

1296
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: obviously didn't talk. So he just had you guys are both.

1297
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: Kind of transitioning in the business world, and you guys

1298
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: are kind of like, you know, respected at this point.

1299
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: And then we started communicating and then I had him

1300
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: on my podcast and we talked about Richmond. Oh, we

1301
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: never talked about it, and I said, hey, come on

1302
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: my podcast and let's talk about Richmond, and let's talk

1303
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: about that day, what you went through, what I thought,

1304
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: what you thought, what what I know, let's be honest

1305
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: and be clear and everything beyond that, all the dirt

1306
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: we threw on each other in the media. Yeah, and

1307
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: and we talked it out and he told me, and

1308
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, you can get him in here and talk

1309
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: about that. But he was like, man, when I came

1310
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: into the sport and y'all were we were Dee I

1311
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: Dylnhart incorporated the team I was driving for at the time,

1312
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: we were courting him and Rick Hendrick was courting and

1313
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: he ended up going with Rick, right, so we were.

1314
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: I would see him in the garage when he was

1315
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: like eighteen and go, hey, man, you coming to drive

1316
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: for us? Yeah, you're he's sought after, you know, young

1317
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: kid with a lot of talent. I'm like, hey, you

1318
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: coming with us?

1319
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1320
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 3: And he's like, I don't know, we'll find out. And

1321
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 3: so he was playing dumb. Yeah, He's like, do you

1322
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 3: he has have agents in the game or you guys?

1323
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: Kind of I think it's probably his parents more than anything, right,

1324
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 3: I imagine.

1325
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I doubt he had an agent, but

1326
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: he's like, man, back then, I wanted to be your

1327
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: friend like you were. You were the bud guy, you

1328
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: were the you were the fun guy. He was like,

1329
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in your group. And I'm like, damn,

1330
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. He's like, yeah, I hated how

1331
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: things got took off with us and how we went

1332
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: down this other path. He's like, because when when I

1333
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: was coming into sport, I was thinking, Man, it's gonna

1334
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: be cool if I can hang out and drink beer

1335
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: with me. I was the beer guy.

1336
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're having beers.

1337
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: Now, how cool is that having beers?

1338
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 3: How cool is it like to have somebody when you're

1339
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 3: in the game long enough look up to you. What

1340
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: we talk about that sometimes it's like when you play

1341
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: something long enough, you have kids that are growing up

1342
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 3: and going into your world that are fans of you, Like, hey,

1343
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 3: you're selling some You're just like, yeah, listen, I'm just

1344
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 3: talking about you know what I'm saying. That's I mean,

1345
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 3: that was That's a cool feeling for us.

1346
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Now, Yeah, you know, I don't. I

1347
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: don't not the It wasn't that cool to hear that

1348
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: from my peers, if any of those were to ever

1349
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: say that. But now that I'm done and I'm and

1350
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: these like twenty year olds, they are coming into sport,

1351
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 1: and I guess because I'm forty six and I feel

1352
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: like I'm getting old as hell that they even knew

1353
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: who I was. They're like, man, I used to be

1354
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: a big hell junior fan when I was five. I'm like,

1355
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: well that that makes me feel old. But it's nice

1356
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: to know that, you know, I'm not aged out like

1357
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: these kids that are coming into the sport don't know.

1358
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: Who the hell I am, right right, Yeah, it's super cool. Yeah,

1359
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 3: So we go back to the beginning of the podcast, legend,

1360
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: just let your.

1361
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: You're returning, They'll be I see you're you're returning back

1362
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: to the racetrack.

1363
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: Well, I do run one a year. I run one

1364
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: race a year to scratch the itch and to smell

1365
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: the smells and hear the sounds. So when I'm I'm

1366
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: a broadcast for NBC and I when you're up there

1367
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: in the booth, all right, if you're a player and

1368
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: you go into the broadcast booth, it's you can tell

1369
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: the broadcast and the viewer everything that the player's thinking, right,

1370
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: because you played it. You just played there. You were

1371
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: just down there right. Well, the second the second year,

1372
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: the third year, the fourth year, the fifth year, that

1373
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: gets harder because you forget Zach, you get your turning

1374
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: it into more of the broadcast you got, you have

1375
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: the player anymore, right, and you're further from that. And man,

1376
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know exactly what that guy

1377
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: is thinking right now. I forget that energy, I forget

1378
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: that sensation or that emotion. I forget that pressure. I

1379
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: forget that nervousness, that fear, of that anxiety, all those things,

1380
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: right that you have in those moments, right, And so

1381
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: I get in the car once a year and run

1382
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: one race to be reminded of all those things. So

1383
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: when I'm in the booth, it's right there. When I

1384
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: need to pull that file, it's right there, right when

1385
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: I need to draw on that moment and go I was,

1386
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: I know what that's like. I know exactly what he's thinking.

1387
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: It's all fresh. Well, what if you win, then that's badass?

1388
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you win, are you gonna sit there

1389
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: like you No, Let's get another run at this thing.

1390
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: H No, I'm done, man, I you know I ran.

1391
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: I raced for twenty years. I had some head injury stuff,

1392
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: some concussion stuff, and I felt like that I was

1393
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: going to the well too many times I felt like

1394
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: that I was taking some risks unnecessarily. So I'm getting

1395
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,919
Speaker 1: ready to get married. And at the end of twenty sixteen,

1396
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: we have our first little girl. Shortly after that, and

1397
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: this is like I got his whole new life, you know,

1398
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: and maybe racing ain't important anymore, and maybe you know,

1399
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: when I got hurt in twenty sixteen, I had I mean,

1400
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: I had like I had recognizable symptoms, you know. Just

1401
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't when most people get a concussion. You guys

1402
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: know this, right, So when guys get concussions, there's they're

1403
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: self diagnosed. Right, you don't. I don't see it. I

1404
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: don't see your concussion.

1405
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: Right.

1406
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: I had like these visual cues that you could see.

1407
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1408
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: I had balance issues and visual I had I had

1409
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: uh issues speaking and thinking of pulling words out, you know,

1410
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: just trying to form the normal sentences and not being

1411
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: able to think of a simple word that I use

1412
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: every day.

1413
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: Right.

1414
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: I had these issues that were frightening, man, frightening and uh.

1415
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, like I don't want to

1416
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: ever put myself back there again. Uh, And going to

1417
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: the racetrack and running every single week, You're gonna crash

1418
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: you cannot run a whole year and never hit anything.

1419
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit stuff. And and if I'm just hitting

1420
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 1: stuff all the time, I'm never giving myself any chance

1421
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: to get beyond this and get past this and get

1422
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: away from it. Right, And so yeah, going back and

1423
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: running that one race is a risky decision. I'm particular

1424
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: about where that race is at as far as the

1425
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: track and what's the potential of a hard wreck there,

1426
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, And it needs to be a track I'm

1427
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: comfortable with. Yeah, And so you know, I and I

1428
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: don't go out there and race over my head like

1429
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: I would if I was twenty five or twenty eight,

1430
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: like with Reckless abandon Right, I go out there and

1431
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: measure the risks and I have a great time. I

1432
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: get to experience it, and for the time being, it

1433
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: checks all the boxes.

1434
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 3: Have you done like anything post racing that is like

1435
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: beneficial for brand stuff? Have you gone and looked at

1436
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 3: anything like IV therapy is different stuff like that?

1437
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: No, So I haven't. And the only reason I think

1438
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: is because I haven't had anything that's triggered me to

1439
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: have concern. And so, you know, when I had the

1440
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: problems that I was having in twenty sixteen, I'd already

1441
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: been to Pittsburgh to see Mickey Collins, who's a guy

1442
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: that works with a lot of the Steelers. Yeah, he's

1443
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers guy, Penguin's guy, but he also worked with

1444
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: other racers. He's worked with a lot of people that

1445
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: I know, but he's worked. He's worked with tons of

1446
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: football guys. Yeah, I've worked ye. So you know, he

1447
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: helped me in twenty twelve get through us I say,

1448
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: small concussion, but he helped me get through an issue

1449
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 1: that didn't last long and went away in a relatively

1450
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:48,440
Speaker 1: short period of time. And so he with that experience,

1451
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, I thought, you know, oh man, I got

1452
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: this under control. Well, I got in trouble and put

1453
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: myself in a bad situation in twenty sixteen, with a

1454
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: lot of crashes and a lot lot getting sick. After

1455
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot of crashes, I'd be well in about three

1456
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: or four days and think, well, you know, I'm healed,

1457
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, but I kept had hit the wall three

1458
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: weeks later, and then three weeks after that, I'd hit something,

1459
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: and I kept layering all these concussions together, and one

1460
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: day I started getting worse and worse and worse and

1461
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: didn't know what it was and why it was happening,

1462
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: and I was just going down. Yeah, I didn't wrecked.

1463
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: I was racing. I hadn't wrecked in weeks, and so

1464
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was like, what's happening in my what?

1465
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: What's happening to me? I didn't wreck What is this?

1466
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1467
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: So finally I figured out that I needed to go

1468
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: see him, and he uh, we spent eight months fixing it.

1469
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, it was you do anything that I was like,

1470
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: out of the norm of what the usual.

1471
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: Well, you know, everybody's experience seems to be different, and

1472
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: whether you My treatment in twenty twelve was much different

1473
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: than in twenty sixteen because the the understanding of how

1474
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: to treat a concussion had changed. So when twenty twelve happened,

1475
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: they were like no TV, no cell phones, dark rooms, sleep, silence, quiet, nothing.

1476
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: And in twenty sixteen, when I was like, man, I

1477
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: do not want to go through that, no rooms in

1478
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: dark rooms, no cell phones, no TV. I don't want

1479
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: to do that, right, that is awful, And so I

1480
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: was dreading it. And when I got diagnosed, He's like, Okay,

1481
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: here's here's what you do. What triggers your your symptoms,

1482
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, going to the busy places, the

1483
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: grocery store, or I'd say, you know, if I went

1484
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: to a concert anywhere where there's there's where there's complex environments,

1485
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: it freaks me out. And he's like, go do those

1486
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, okay, and uh so yeah. So

1487
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: so they pulled me out of the race car and

1488
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: now I'm in a concert and my team, my p people,

1489
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: my crew, my brand team, and my race team. They're like,

1490
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, you can't drive a race car, but you're

1491
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: you're off at a concert.

1492
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you have.

1493
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: You're trying to get over a concussion. What are you doing?

1494
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: You know?

1495
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: And so I would take all the people that I

1496
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: could take to see Mickey when I would go visit him,

1497
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: so he could explain to them like, hey, this is

1498
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: what we're doing, and he's in big trouble and so

1499
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, and it was helpful, but uh, it took

1500
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: a long time to get over that, and I you know,

1501
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: so I think I retired probably about if that never happened.

1502
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: If that never happened, I'd probably race way on into

1503
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: my late forties. And I think that if I hadn't

1504
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: have got married and had kids. Even with that incident

1505
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, I might still be racing today, Yeah,

1506
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't put new things into perspective of something

1507
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: different to lift for. So right, So when I had

1508
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: only myself to live for, I would probably put myself

1509
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: back in that same situation risk. You know, my doctor

1510
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: would tell me, even after twenty sixteen, He's like, you're fine,

1511
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: You're no more You're at no more risk than the

1512
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: other guys out there. And I'm like, wait, but I'm damaged, right,

1513
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: I've had this injury, and it seems like I would

1514
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: be at risk to get it more so than the

1515
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: guy racing the car behind me. He's like, ope, you're good,

1516
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: you can go race. He's like, now you can get hurt,

1517
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: but soa can he You're not going to get it

1518
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: easier than him. And I'm like, okay, So I without

1519
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: my wife and kids, I probably would have just went

1520
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: right back to it, right, and I probably would have

1521
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: got sick again. I probably would have got hurt again,

1522
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: and who knows where that would have sent me, right,

1523
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, when I got married and had kids,

1524
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, I don't want to I don't

1525
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to be at home sick,

1526
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: can't can't walk, can't stand, can't talk, can't see, and

1527
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: have a one year old kid that I can can't

1528
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: enjoy right her her milestones. I can't be in the

1529
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: moment when you're in a concussion. I'm not telling you

1530
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 1: guys anything, y'all haven't heard or no. When you have

1531
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: a concussion, you're in a fog. You're not in the moment.

1532
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: You're not in the room you could be. You could

1533
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: have the most important people in your life in a

1534
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: conversation around a table and you couldn't be a part

1535
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: of it and start doing the lookoff and yeah, it

1536
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: was awful.

1537
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 2: You worry, bussy t.

1538
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: I think you know I do. Uh, it's a I

1539
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. For me, I can't live the

1540
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: rest of my life thinking, man, what's gonna happen to me?

1541
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: I think that some people do live their life like that,

1542
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: worrying about their future. But I'm just gonna today's good.

1543
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: Let's see how tomorrow is. Tomorrow's good. You know, I'm

1544
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 1: just doing it, doing it day to day.

1545
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 3: You've also dealt with a lot of trauma also, like

1546
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 3: just like that plane Crush talked about in the last

1547
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 3: podcast and Wills and Hayes flying in It's like, I

1548
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 3: bet every time you got on a plane, it's there's

1549
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 3: gotta be a little something in there. Yeah, it starts

1550
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: taking off, you just start rolling a little bit, like let's.

1551
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: Get this thing off the ground.

1552
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, the arm.

1553
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: But if you live your entire life thinking of the

1554
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: next flight I take, you can't. I can't do that.

1555
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: I can't not fly. Yeah, I've got to get back

1556
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: on a plane because there'd be would be things I

1557
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: need to go do that are important, right.

1558
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:28,759
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1559
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,519
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1560
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,400
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1561
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:35,200
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1562
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: you're a big uh pioneer in bringing Nascar to Nashville.

1614
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 3: Man, I'm working hard at it. Seems like everyone's really

1615
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: excited about it. Yeah, yeah, everyone that even people that

1616
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: aren't just just a casual fan are excited. I think

1617
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 3: people just want as many sports as possible here and

1618
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 3: that absolutely.

1619
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: I think so. I always say that, you know, the

1620
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: rising Tides lists, all the ships up, and we have

1621
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: IndyCar coming to run the street course at Nashville. We

1622
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: got NASCAR at the Nashville super Speedway. There's a lot

1623
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: of there's a push to get Nashville to the fairgrounds

1624
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: in town. It's a short track and so and Nashville

1625
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: Man has changed so much in the last ten years.

1626
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: When NASCAR left in nineteen eighty four, it was a

1627
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 1: different town. And what it is today, it's where we

1628
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: want to be, right, we celebrate our champion here. We've

1629
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: had our banquet here for the last two or three years,

1630
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: and I you know, to me, that's a very critical

1631
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: important day for our sport. It's where we celebrate everything

1632
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: that happened that year. Right, they could be more important.

1633
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: And the day you crown and recognize and celebrate your

1634
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: champion and all the winners and all the accomplishments. So

1635
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: that we do that here is great for us. It's

1636
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 1: a hell of a fit. It's perfect. And you know,

1637
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: everybody we loved Vegas, everybody partied hard, had a last

1638
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, damn, I mean Nashville is as good or

1639
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 1: better than Vegas. It has it has a similar vibe.

1640
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: But also, uh, you know, it's Nashville all another thing

1641
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: too that and I want to say, is uh that

1642
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: music component like Nascar and music, particularly country music. But

1643
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Nascar and music is a good marriage and we can

1644
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: utilize that in ways we never were able to before.

1645
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: We would have. You know, the banquet is a big

1646
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: giant you know theater, you know, banquet, banquet table event. Right,

1647
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: there's five hundred people there, and we were it's like

1648
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: pulling teeth to get anybody really bad ass to come play,

1649
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, and get and really raise our level, right,

1650
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, get people going. Damn did you see NASCAR

1651
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: had the banquet play? You know it was good, but

1652
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: now that you know, you got so much to choose

1653
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: from here in Nashville, all over the place. Damn. Right,

1654
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: So we had the banquet last year. Man, I was like,

1655
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: I was telling all the drivers, I was calling them up.

1656
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, all your country music friends, invite

1657
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: them to the banquet. Have them sitting at your table,

1658
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: even if they don't play. Have them there so when

1659
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: the camera goes across the room, they see, you know,

1660
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: this famous musician and this race car drive right our whole.

1661
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: It brings the brand up.

1662
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yeah, it brings the brand up. Have is

1663
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 3: there is there a difficulty with the brand of NASCAR

1664
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 3: in the last like ten years, like keeping everything going

1665
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 3: in a tribjectory. You guys wanted to go in.

1666
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: Well the uh you know, we had an amazing run

1667
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: in the two thousands. Things were crazy, we were, I mean,

1668
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: souvenir business was multimillions of dollars. All the drivers were

1669
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: making money in souvenirs alone. Driver salaries were going through

1670
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: the roof. Sponsorships were going through the roof. In two

1671
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, I think we had over four million,

1672
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: forty million dollars on one car, really, yeah, Rick Hendrick

1673
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: was probably near to one hundred million dollars for his

1674
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: team sponsorship and four cars. Yeah, I mean it was

1675
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: some bonkers, you know. And the numbers aren't like that

1676
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: anymore that you know, the ticket sales aren't like that anymore.

1677
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: They've started, you know, for over a decade, we've been

1678
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: pulling seats from race tracks. You know, if you can't

1679
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: sell these grands, these seats they gotta go. And so

1680
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: when you know, instead of having one hundred and eighty

1681
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: thousand people at a race, you're you're now thrilled, now thrilled,

1682
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: You're happy you have sixty to eighty thousand.

1683
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, it's that much of a difference, Yeah, for

1684
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 3: some plat do What do you think that is? Is

1685
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 3: it just everybody a different way?

1686
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's the way people

1687
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: consume content these days. I think that's you know, there

1688
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 1: were a million different variables that made it more difficult

1689
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: for fans to choose to go to a race. Hotel rooms,

1690
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: the costs to do it all right, The ticket prices

1691
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: went up, hotel gallaging, you know, everything got more expensive,

1692
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: and it became instead of being a fan, instead of

1693
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: being able to go to like multiple races a year,

1694
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: it came down to like which one do we go to, right,

1695
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: because we can only afford to do this once a year,

1696
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: and so that got to be more difficult. And I

1697
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: think that we might have lost sight to of how

1698
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: to entertain someone for the how to entertain somebody for

1699
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: that weekend. So if you're I want you to come

1700
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: to race. I mean it's great if you walk up

1701
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: and buy a ticket and come to the Grand Sands,

1702
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: but I want you to drive an RV and I

1703
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: want you to rent a spot, and I want you

1704
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: to be there Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and I want

1705
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: you eating concessions all three days, and you know, pumping

1706
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: money into economy around the racetrack. And that got harder

1707
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: to do. You know, that got harder to get people

1708
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: to come and commit that that and for you to

1709
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: do that, you need more than just the race on Sunday. Right,

1710
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: you need a concert on Friday night and Saturday night.

1711
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: You need some racing on Saturday. Some of you need

1712
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: multiple forms of motorsport at the same venue or something

1713
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: like that. Boys play on Saturday and that that's gonna

1714
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: bring you in. So it's uh, I think we're getting

1715
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: back to that. I think we're getting our our promoters,

1716
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: our our promoters are promoting and getting creative. And for

1717
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: lack of a better way to describe it, they got

1718
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: to bring in that sort of carnival atmosphere and that

1719
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: you know, that entertainment atmosphere they got to have, you know,

1720
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: they got to have other things for people to do.

1721
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: Then to drive there and sit around for two days

1722
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 1: to wait on this three hour race to happen on Sunday.

1723
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: Sounds like Nashville is the best place for that to happen.

1724
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, nig City, Bro, it'd be awesome.

1725
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: I think however many people you can get is gonna go,

1726
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 3: especially that first one. But if you guys do it right.

1727
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 3: We read concerts and all that.

1728
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: We ran out at the fair, we ran out at

1729
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: the speedway, and everybody the industry, meaning crew members, all

1730
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: the people that work in NASCAR drivers, wives, all the

1731
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: industry people and the fans all got entertained for a week,

1732
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: you know. I mean we came into town, we went

1733
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: to Broadway, we had they had parties, and out at

1734
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: the track they had parties. The sponsors were holding parties

1735
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: in town, big vents. Everybody was getting taken. It was

1736
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 1: great and we had that stuff hasn't been happening for years.

1737
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: We just thought, oh, we're just the race is all

1738
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: we need. I don't need to spend ten grand for

1739
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: a concert act here Saturday night, you know. So we're

1740
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: kind of getting back to being more of an entertainment

1741
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: business and the races, the you know, the main course,

1742
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: but you got to have everything else, advertiser and all

1743
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: those things.

1744
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty savvy in the business world.

1745
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: I was.

1746
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: I was transitioning from like NASCAR juggling the business and

1747
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 2: becoming the businessman that you're obviously being, like being a

1748
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: part owner in the NASCAR speedway circuit whatever it's called. Apologize, No,

1749
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: it's good.

1750
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: I've been uh well, speedway circuit.

1751
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

1752
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: It's all good.

1753
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 2: The NASCAR Talladega race.

1754
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I used to tell people, like when

1755
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: I first started racing, and it was just I was

1756
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: just making a paycheck from racing alone. And uh, I

1757
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: used to tell people that I wanted to find my

1758
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: form and grill. So George Foreman had the grill. And

1759
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: and anyone in any athletes size or any race car

1760
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: driver's eyes, you know you want to you want to

1761
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: be George Foreman. I want to have them. You want

1762
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: to have this thing beyond your your racing. Uh that's

1763
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: gonna you know, be a be a big deal, be

1764
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: a national thing, right, whatever that is George for grill,

1765
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: that was great and he selled the hell out in

1766
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: things and whatever your George Foreman grill is right, it

1767
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: can be anything. And so I was just always like,

1768
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find something and it's gonna land. I'm gonna

1769
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: land something I'm gonna make. It's whether I created or

1770
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: it comes and falls in my lap.

1771
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1772
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: And uh so you try, you know, not everything, some

1773
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: things are silly, but you try about everything that sounds good, right,

1774
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 1: and some stuff doesn't work. I've done candy bars, uh,

1775
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: and different things that just don't work. Chocolate, what's to

1776
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: do on the candy bars that did just go? I mean,

1777
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: getting some shelves, space, get a damn store. I don't

1778
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: care what kind of food product you are. Is competitive. Look,

1779
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: you just don't walk in and put your tatter chips

1780
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: on the tater chip aisle. You know what I mean?

1781
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: In all the stores across America, it's competitive, and uh

1782
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: you you got to earn that. And so or could

1783
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: be with the right people. But a lot of our

1784
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: things didn't work, but a lot of them did. And

1785
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: the secret to being successful at anything is people, and

1786
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: so like having some Like I don't know how to

1787
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: run a restaurant, right, but I own a restaurant that's

1788
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: in Uh we have Whiskey River, which is in airports.

1789
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: We got one in Charlotte, Riley and Fort Lauderdale, and

1790
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: uh we kill it. But I don't make the choices

1791
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: because I would run it in the ground right.

1792
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 3: To do.

1793
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: I got some people that I partner with that absolutely

1794
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: know how to run a restaurant. And that's why it wins,

1795
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: you know, And so you know when you you just

1796
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: can't go in there thinking, Man, I know how to

1797
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: do this. I know how to run a night club.

1798
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: Be the best nightclub. Yeah, you know, you're never gonna

1799
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: make it if you're not a nightclub owner. If you

1800
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: weren't born into it, you can do everything right. You

1801
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: have to put with the right people in the right place.

1802
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: George didn't build that grip.

1803
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 3: He did not.

1804
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: There's no way he built that grill. Do you think

1805
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:01,560
Speaker 1: George is in the basement.

1806
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Maybe things together?

1807
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 3: You don't know George, dude, I do actually know George. Yeah, literally,

1808
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 3: so this I actually wanted to talk about. What is

1809
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 3: how did this happen between you two? Let's like, what

1810
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 3: because I've heard I've heard a gentle story about.

1811
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: Wales.

1812
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: He you know, he flexed on me a couple of times.

1813
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: It's tough sometimes strong around Dale and I being friend.

1814
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question.

1815
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean I literally I feel like the third wheel here.

1816
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 3: But I do want to know between the two, how

1817
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 3: did this whole thing work out?

1818
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: Is a natural thing?

1819
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1820
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 1: It natural?

1821
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 2: He can? He can? He can, you know, chime in whatever.

1822
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: How I remember it. We were on our run. That's

1823
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,879
Speaker 2: when we won the division back in twenty and fifteen,

1824
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 2: and that was the year I started taking over the job,

1825
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: and we were we were playing well in the back

1826
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: end the back end of the season, and we started

1827
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 2: stringing games together because we can never win like two

1828
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 2: games in a row. It was always we'd win one,

1829
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 2: we lose one, we win one, we lose one. And

1830
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 2: then we started swinging together. I think like maybe three

1831
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: or four, and we were having fun on social media

1832
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 2: and uh D Hall and I we were close and

1833
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 2: he was tweeting back and forth with Kevin Durant and

1834
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: uh I, you know, being myself on social media. I'm like,

1835
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: I tweet at both of them. I'm like, hey, Dal,

1836
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 2: introduce me to KD, but be cool about it. Yeah,

1837
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 2: and then he like last, He's like, Comp, I'm sure

1838
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 2: he knows you.

1839
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 3: Man.

1840
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 2: He's a fan of the team, because Kat's a big

1841
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 2: fan of the Washington football team. And Kat responds like, hey, Comp,

1842
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 2: I know who you are. Man. He follows me and stuff.

1843
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, I played that up, that

1844
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,719
Speaker 2: KD follows me. And then I see yeah, yeah exactly.

1845
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: And then in an article of the next day, I'm seeing,

1846
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 2: like the media, you know, put together the storyline of

1847
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 2: what happened, and I saw that Dale was following me too,

1848
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: because they're like, oh, KD wasn't the only one who

1849
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 2: followed Will like Dale had followed me or something.

1850
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: I like, Kat fan is that how you saw this

1851
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: thing go down?

1852
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 2: Well, he's he's a he was a Washington guy too.

1853
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 3: He was watching fan, Yeah, Washington fan. And I was

1854
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 3: always like active thought, this is the guy I'm gonna follow.

1855
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 3: I was on social Let's let's take a pause here.

1856
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1857
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 3: So I was like, let's look that for a second.

1858
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 3: So you're obviously a huge fan of the team. Yes,

1859
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 3: to be falling, you know what I'm saying. Well, fifteen

1860
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 3: playing well? Yeah, playing well.

1861
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: But the first was dat play each other that year?

1862
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah we won.

1863
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: I know, I'm very aware. It was a horrible day.

1864
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: It wasn't fun a white good It.

1865
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: Was you and Alex Boone. You guys were both They

1866
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 2: called me like some like white guy out there, but

1867
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Boone was like messing with me.

1868
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: I remember going to you like, hey we played other

1869
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: in college, and You're like, all right, white dude with

1870
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: the content on his back. I'm like you can't.

1871
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 3: This got to be the same guy from Nebraska. So okay,

1872
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 3: So twenty fifteen hits, Well, how did you get to

1873
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 3: that man's twitter?

1874
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Washing him play? He's playing good? Are you serious? I

1875
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 1: mean like you saw him make a couple of make

1876
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: a couple of Accoles and you just gave him a follow.

1877
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: I think it was more like.

1878
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: That looks so different.

1879
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: That was like just bored as hell, like all the time.

1880
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 2: We couldn't even drive the race car that day for real.

1881
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 2: But oh really yeah, but yeah, so.

1882
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: You just started following that day?

1883
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 2: Or was it?

1884
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: Did you see the I don't. I think it might

1885
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: have been that day. I don't I think it was

1886
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: that day. I can't remember. I mean, I just you know,

1887
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: I would. I just was like, man, this guy seems

1888
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: pretty cool and we needed, uh, you know, our team

1889
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: needed some personality.

1890
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

1891
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, when you're a fan, you gravitate towards the

1892
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: guys that seemed to show some personality. Right, there's the

1893
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: workman type guy that you appreciate, like you know, uh

1894
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: that that scores a touchdown, hands the ball, the wrap

1895
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: goes back to the bench, right right. But you know

1896
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: every team needs that sort of uh clown, right, that

1897
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: class clown.

1898
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ God, it's the funnyest fun about that is,

1899
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 2: I know, you know, every team needs sort of a clown.

1900
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 2: And I just see that part being in just some

1901
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 2: trailer that.

1902
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, just the fun you're enjoying yourself.

1903
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: Things were work, things are going well for you, and

1904
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: you were you were you were embracing that, and you

1905
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: were sharing that with fans.

1906
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 4: Right.

1907
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 2: That fired me up because Dobson back there was my

1908
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 2: He's been my strength coach pretty much my entire life.

1909
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: And uh say this, okay, all right, I am a

1910
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: fan of the team, and if I can interact with

1911
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: one of the players, I mean, I'm no different than

1912
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: the guy next door who isn't a race car driver

1913
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: and on TV, right, I'm just like him. And if

1914
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm just as excited about, you know, getting on social

1915
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: media and interacting with Will is this guy.

1916
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Is I get it.

1917
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 3: And so people think people that do stuff, they think

1918
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 3: that I'm like, yeah, right, like George, George, you're not

1919
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 3: a fan of anything.

1920
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 2: Ye like me and George like he's really nice. It's like,

1921
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean we're all human beings, like we

1922
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 2: all like want to hang.

1923
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing for the team, and I'm like, dang,

1924
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: that's cool, man, because we you know, he was cool

1925
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: enough to be, you know, engage.

1926
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 2: Which is crazy because I'm thinking, I'm like, because I

1927
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 2: knew dob was a huge Dale or hard junior fan,

1928
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yo, I can't wait to show tell

1929
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 2: Dob that Dale and I follow each other. We're kind

1930
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 2: of friends because what I'm saying.

1931
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 3: And so.

1932
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 2: The next uh, the next year, we were about to

1933
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 2: go to O t As. Dale tweets like, hey, good

1934
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 2: luck in O t As. I'm like, we're fucking we're boys, man,

1935
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 2: And then we get to go we get race at

1936
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 2: the Richmond Speedway.

1937
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Is that is that?

1938
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:05,600
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, we get to go to Richmond Speedway and

1939
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, that's how it happened, dude, Literally like

1940
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 2: Twitter and the kind of really we text every now

1941
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 2: and then.

1942
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: That's super nice. I'm really glad this is developing something

1943
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: that you got some both hang your hat on all over.

1944
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 3: The guy.

1945
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: It was just a clown, and you know, every team

1946
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: needs a you know, a clown.

1947
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 2: He goes, he goes.

1948
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 1: You got the hard.

1949
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 2: Workers, you know, and then you know every team needs

1950
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: like a clown.

1951
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that day, that day, you guys been driving, Like

1952
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 3: were you guys kicking it up? You guys couldn't drive

1953
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 3: the race car. Legit, we couldn't drive the race car.

1954
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. He was like, we get to choose like four

1955
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 2: or five players to come out to the speedway, like

1956
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 2: your names on the list, like make sure we get

1957
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 2: to go out because it was during training camp. So

1958
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 2: you wait. So you go to the stand and hey,

1959
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 2: you're doing like a retirement round or something, right.

1960
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: Yes, and you go to it was Richmond. Yeah, go

1961
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: to Richmond, Washington at the time, Washington football team.

1962
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was going to go to training camp

1963
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 2: later that day. Yeah, but we had we practiced early

1964
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 2: in the mornings.

1965
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: Right, and so we had to wait on y'all.

1966
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I put you and me, Kirk Morgan, Moses,

1967
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 2: Ryan Kerrigan, and I don't know if there's anybody else,

1968
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: but you put on your list or you.

1969
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 1: Put Will on your list. I put all those names

1970
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 1: on this.

1971
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 3: Okay, got you Morgan, Moses, huh Off, it's Lineman Butt.

1972
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 3: You follow him on Twitter, say, hey, Dale, how much

1973
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 3: more bake can I throw you?

1974
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 4: Now?

1975
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 2: Let me get that. But yeah, it was an awesome time.

1976
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there thinking, like, you know, we finally

1977
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 2: get the meet and hang out and we take like

1978
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,759
Speaker 2: you know, I do like a little snapchat, little snapchat

1979
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 2: selfie with him with the dog tongue and stuff, and

1980
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 2: he drives around the car and I just you know,

1981
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: have a blast. Yeah, I'm like a kid in the

1982
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: candy store, no question, you know. I see Dale. This

1983
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 2: the most humble human being. I like to tell you,

1984
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: no question about it. Mcdale has no clue that Dale's

1985
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 2: Dale right right, And I'm like, you know, screaming and stuff.

1986
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 2: You see him just driving the car, just kind of

1987
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 2: like laughing.

1988
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 1: He just seems like he's happy to give you the

1989
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: He's like this guy, were you really yes?

1990
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 2: What like what what?

1991
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 1: What are you nervous about? Because you see how he's

1992
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: on driving.

1993
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 2: We will come to the boy, the boy in the.

1994
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 1: Car, dude, you got there. You know they're in the

1995
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,799
Speaker 1: middle of their prep for the season.

1996
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 2: Oh we were hyped up to man. There there.

1997
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Are on whatever that is, right, staying healthy and just

1998
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: getting getting the work in. And they are getting, you know,

1999
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: asked to go out of their way over to do

2000
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: this thing.

2001
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 2: It's like a field trip. We got to miss some

2002
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 2: of the training camp.

2003
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: All right, I don't know that, so you know, this

2004
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: is the greatest thing.

2005
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 2: Keep driving so we don't have to go back.

2006
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, good day, you're sitting there going, man.

2007
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 1: I hope they like I hope they want to be here. Yeah,

2008
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, dude.

2009
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: But then you you went though, like ran around against Jeno, right, Yes, yeah,

2010
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: Josh Norman, I remember that.

2011
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: We're buddy, Hell, how did that you catch on him?

2012
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: I did?

2013
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 2: So that's back when Jo was like Jay No, Yeah,

2014
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,560
Speaker 2: he was like that. We came off going to the

2015
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,560
Speaker 2: playoffs the year before, went in the division. Kirk was

2016
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: now taking the hell, you know, leading the way at quarterbacks,

2017
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 2: so we had like it was like, you know, it

2018
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 2: was a good time to be a Washington football Teammateah.

2019
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was off script. So we were walking

2020
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: We're walking around. I'm just like, I don't even know

2021
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be, and uh, you know, I'm

2022
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 1: trying to be out of the way, but there's no

2023
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 1: obvious place that this is out of the way and

2024
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: their players doing their own thing, and Josh was jesus, Josh,

2025
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: is are you showing the Josh thing? This is me

2026
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: and Josh Norman.

2027
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? I bet he thought you were

2028
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 2: an asshole. Dude.

2029
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's Josh Norman? I was, I was kind

2030
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: of bush to you.

2031
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 2: What's he doing?

2032
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: After this? Yeah, well we were so this this thing.

2033
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 1: We were in four minute drill at the end of

2034
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: the game.

2035
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 3: This is like the game like it was like December

2036
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 3: twenty third, was like Christmas time, and what's the upset for? Well, okay,

2037
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 3: so Josh, so we did four minute drill. Obviously in

2038
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 3: the game, I did their bone arrow. I know, That's

2039
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 3: why I trying to make this thing. And then they

2040
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 3: So Derek runs the ball left, smart move, gets a

2041
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 3: few yards and Josh tackles him and Gator rolls his

2042
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 3: leg and I'm not like, like, listen, Derek's my boy.

2043
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 3: But even if Derek wasn't my boy, like the we're

2044
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 3: not going to play those types of games. So I

2045
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 3: go up getting Josh's face and uh, we kind of

2046
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 3: go at it for a little bit. We end up

2047
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 3: winning the game on like a pick six. It was

2048
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 3: like a I think Butler picked it off and ran

2049
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 3: it in when we didn't need to. It was like

2050
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds left in the game. So, like, Josh's mouthing

2051
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 3: off to me, and I just belined for the silence.

2052
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 3: He's sitting there, Josh, he looks at me. I go

2053
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 3: get the fuck off my field, dude, and he like

2054
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 3: he's like, what was that? And I kind of put

2055
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 3: it back again and he threw his helmet at me.

2056
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 3: Didn't move, baller move and the thing goes right by

2057
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 3: me and he slaps my hand. You obviously saw the

2058
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 3: video aster that slaps my hand and all that. But

2059
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 3: we've tried to get him on the pod a couple

2060
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 3: of times, Like, to me, everything on the field is

2061
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 3: like it's all everything's a show in my hands, Like

2062
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 3: we're just we're playing football, where this is entertainment, Like

2063
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 3: I want to beat you up. You want to be

2064
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 3: up with this after it's over, I I don't care,

2065
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So we get into it,

2066
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 3: but that he was definitely pretty upset about that. And

2067
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 3: then this year he's playing for the Bills and then

2068
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 3: Derek did we did him. He flew through the air.

2069
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 3: That man is still in the air of the day.

2070
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: This day was that boom do Do Do doo and

2071
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: he's like still floating off. That's awesome. You guys are

2072
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,679
Speaker 1: you guys had a little deal there. That's nice. Yeah,

2073
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you too.

2074
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 3: No, I'm not being judged, it's just it's just interesting

2075
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 3: to get the perspective of other people because I don't know,

2076
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 3: I feel like we'll was probably super nervous to meet

2077
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 3: you too getting in there.

2078
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I was fired up, like up, yeah, I

2079
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: mean I was a little nervous, but I was like

2080
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 2: fired up too, just just like I wasn't like a

2081
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 2: big Nascar guy growing up, but knowing like Dale Junior,

2082
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: like you just know Dale Junior, just the name Dr Junior,

2083
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 2: and you know people like Dobson and a couple like

2084
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 2: family members back home that are like, you know, love Nascar,

2085
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 2: like love Dale Junior. So I'm like stoked to show

2086
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 2: dob I'm like, dude, check this ship out. And uh

2087
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,560
Speaker 2: but yeah, I was. I was like fired up to

2088
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 2: meet him. I'm like, yeah, I'm about to ride in

2089
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 2: a fucking car with Dale and our junior. Now we're

2090
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 2: drinking a beer on the bus for the second time. Yeah, bro,

2091
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 2: it's beautiful. That's awesome.

2092
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: I love that. It's all I had.

2093
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 2: Even looked away. You're like, that's awesome.

2094
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 3: We just want to celebrate our friendship. Yeah, it's beautiful.

2095
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 3: It's nice to be a part of, just to be

2096
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 3: around it. It's like it's uh, it's infectious. It's infectious.

2097
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: Exactly what you.

2098
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody Dobson, you guys been back there, I'm sure time.

2099
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: He was all right, let's do this. I've kind of

2100
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 1: got two questions. We'll start with the first one.

2101
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 4: Okay, So I didn't really grew up like I mean,

2102
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 4: I'm twenty two, So your dad wasn't really alive like

2103
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 4: when I could remember racing. But I was listening to

2104
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 4: the Ty Norris episode of him talking about the most

2105
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 4: Popular Driver award? What kept your dad from winning that?

2106
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: Like for so long?

2107
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 4: Like people now, I mean know your dad, but they

2108
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 4: don't know Bill Elliott. He was the one who was

2109
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 4: winning that award way back then.

2110
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Bill. So the most Popular Driver award

2111
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 1: when dad was alive went to Bill Elliott. He won

2112
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: it sixteen times. I think he holds the record. And

2113
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 1: Bill's popular now.

2114
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 2: He was.

2115
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: He was a popular driver without a doubt.

2116
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 2: But the.

2117
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, I can say this, I think without being

2118
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: too disrespectful, but we always felt like that they had

2119
01:44:55,479 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: bots before bots were bots, right, they had a hm,

2120
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: I'll be I think, you know, to be clear, what

2121
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 1: it was is that they organized like that. You know,

2122
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: when the vote was going on, you had to vote

2123
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: through an old news letter and his fan club would

2124
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: organize and be like, all right, everybody's that time of year,

2125
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: let's go get get you get your votes in, right,

2126
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 1: And you know Dad didn't do that. Dad didn't like

2127
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 1: all right, everybody, it's that time of year, let's vote

2128
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 1: for me and his uh and Bill would win it

2129
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: without fail. Every year he would win it. And in

2130
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 1: my opinion, uh, you know, if you polled NASCAR fans

2131
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 1: and you know Dad was more popular, argue it's arguable, right,

2132
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: it's absolutely a debatable thing. But in my mind, he

2133
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: was absolutely a bigger star, much more you know, mainstream

2134
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 1: outside the NASCAR bubble kind of guy could you know,

2135
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: was in films and and would cameo here and there.

2136
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: And but Bill won the award every year and they organized,

2137
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: you know he is fan club and and Dawsonville, the

2138
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: city where he's from. They got everybody on board when

2139
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: it was time to get the job done. And he

2140
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 1: would never lose that award. And it was it was

2141
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: something I don't know that Bill was actively out there

2142
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: going I need this. Yeah, they have PR teams back then. Yeah, sure,

2143
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: so that that it was there were there were the

2144
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: right people knew that it was good for Bill to

2145
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 1: win that award, right, and so they organized and helped

2146
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 1: make that happen. And you know, I don't think, you know,

2147
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: it was any illegal or wrong. I don't think they

2148
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 1: did anything wrong, but they just were, you know, they

2149
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: were very dedicated to getting that year after year after years.

2150
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 1: Good questions, Sach, it was your dad, if your dad

2151
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: was the timidator, what was was it?

2152
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:01,679
Speaker 2: Bill?

2153
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: Bill's nickname was Awesome Bill from.

2154
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 5: Dawsonville, Awesomeville from Dawsonville, Austville, George, Hey, listen, put there

2155
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 5: one everywhere Awesome Bill from Dawsonville. That's tough, Like listen,

2156
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 5: as a casual, casual fan, I don't know who that is.

2157
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: Sure, you know, you gotta refrain, you gotta frame this

2158
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: in the eighties, you know, awesome you know the it was.

2159
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: It sounded absolutely spot on in the eighties, like, yeah,

2160
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Awesome Bill from dos Mill. That's people.

2161
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 3: It's got a nice jingle to it, right, Yeah, yeah,

2162
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 3: today it might not sound quite as might not it

2163
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 3: sounds dated.

2164
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that name is getting drugg on.

2165
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 1: A little round table.

2166
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 3: And like, hey, let's take a nickname for Dale. And

2167
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 3: you said Awesome Dale from wherever he's from, I'd say, hey, well,

2168
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 3: you gotta leave the room.

2169
01:47:58,240 --> 01:47:58,799
Speaker 2: You're fired.

2170
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 3: Get him out of here right now. Yeah, the intiminary

2171
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 3: lives on forever. I suppose that name is awesome. I suppose, man,

2172
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I have to I feel

2173
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 3: like I have to.

2174
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 2: Have bills back. I mean, yeah, yeah, I get you.

2175
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: Yuh yeah, yeah, you guys. Everybody shoots honest and everybody

2176
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 1: shoots straight in here. But I think that, you know,

2177
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: it was in the eighties. It like seemed to make

2178
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 1: sense right.

2179
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 2: Here in the eighties, right coming coming after you know,

2180
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 2: the seventies.

2181
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in like the eighties, Like even if you

2182
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,839
Speaker 3: look at the movies like Friday, like Friday the thirteenth,

2183
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 3: it's like no, no, no, and like they have like

2184
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 3: the thirteen and it's like probably a swing and a

2185
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 3: miss now right, that's like you can you do that

2186
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 3: on any computer?

2187
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 4: Now?

2188
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, that's true.

2189
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, I see what you're saying, getting this.

2190
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 2: To the other side. Keep getting us to the other side,

2191
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 2: being like that is a badass name.

2192
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: That is nice. Yeah that I think about it, whatever

2193
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 1: whenever I want. That's a lot from me yesterday.

2194
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 2: Zach also brought up that you had a funny story

2195
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 2: for accepting the award of your dad. I did. Uh.

2196
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: So the banquet at that time was in New York City,

2197
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 1: and my dad is passed away earlier the year before,

2198
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: and Bill Elliott bowed out of the voting that year

2199
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: and said, do not vote for me, really, And so

2200
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Dad won it after you know, that year after his

2201
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: death he goes and so at the banquet, they have

2202
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 1: a dinner or breakfast the day before the morning of,

2203
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: and they give away these special awards, right, and that

2204
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: one of them is the most Popular Driver award, And Dads,

2205
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 1: they want me to accept the award for Dad. Right

2206
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: the night before, I'm hanging out in the lobby or

2207
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 1: in the hotel somewhere at the water for Astoria and

2208
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: Kenny Strader and a couple other guys, the race car

2209
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 1: drivers peers are my dad's and they're like uncles to me. Right,

2210
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 1: they're they're they old enough to be my dad, and

2211
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: they treat me like I'm their son. And they're like, Hey,

2212
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,719
Speaker 1: we're going to Hogs and heffersh tonight the meatpacking district.

2213
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: You gotta go with us Dogs and Haffirst. Yeah, at

2214
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 1: a strip club. What is that now? It's a drinking

2215
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 1: it's dogs and that place sounds awesome. It was amazing

2216
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 1: in the meatpacking district in New York City. So that's

2217
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 1: all I remember. I don't yeah, I don't know if

2218
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,520
Speaker 1: it's still there, but I don't think it is. But anyways,

2219
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 1: I it was a tradition for them every year, and

2220
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: so I'm like, sure, I'm wherever you're going, I'm going.

2221
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: I love you guys. I can't believe you asked me.

2222
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: And so I go and we drank, and I said

2223
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: at the bar, and the bar's closing or they're leaving.

2224
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: It's one of two in the morning. They're leaving and

2225
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: they're like, hey man, let's go. And I'm like, I'm

2226
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 1: gonna stay and thought that was a great idea. And

2227
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: so around six o'clock in the morning, the bartender's closing

2228
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 1: and and she's like, hey man, let me get your cab.

2229
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I guess so, and she's like,

2230
01:50:57,760 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 1: where are you staying. I said, I'm sending to the

2231
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: water Story. So the cab sent me home at six

2232
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: o'clock and the banquet, the breakfast for the Most Popular

2233
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: Driver award, is at eight o'clock. I go upstairs and

2234
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: climb in the bed, and I mean, I am hammered.

2235
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:13,600
Speaker 2: And so.

2236
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 1: The general manager for DEI, my dad's company, ty Norris,

2237
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: comes up there and he's like, hey, the bankt or

2238
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 1: the breakfast is happening. Come on, and I'm like, I

2239
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 1: ain't going down there, fucking that, I'm not doing it.

2240
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you got to go do it. This

2241
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: is your dad's award. And he's like, I'm like, I

2242
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,640
Speaker 1: always got to accept everything for him, you know. Ever

2243
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: since he's passed away, I got to go up there

2244
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: and get all the things, and everybody wanted to honor

2245
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 1: him and acknowledge him for right or wrong. I got

2246
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: frustrated with it. Right, I probably should have been thrilled

2247
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: and absolutely honored to do every single thing, but I wasn't,

2248
01:51:58,439 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: and I didn't take it that way, and I didn't

2249
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: do it right or wrong. But so I'm like, screw that.

2250
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 1: I'm tired of doing this. I ain't going down there.

2251
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 1: And obviously i'm I'm I'm drunk. I'm not thinking correctly,

2252
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 1: and that's probably weighing a lot on this whole thing.

2253
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 1: So Ty says, you do what you want to do.

2254
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: But you're gonna regret this ship for the rest of

2255
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 1: your life. Your dad's never won this award, and you're

2256
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: only one person can accept it for him, and that's you.

2257
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 1: And he turned around and walked out, and I got

2258
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 1: up and ran and I said, hey, hey, he's heading

2259
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: down the hall, Like wait, all right, I'll give a

2260
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,640
Speaker 1: shit on. Yeah. So I put on a suit and

2261
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 1: I walked down there and walked up on that stage.

2262
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:37,560
Speaker 1: When they called, you know, when they said, you know,

2263
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: they presented, I walked in there. They've been holding off, like,

2264
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: put this award goes, you know, goes earlier in the set, right, Yeah,

2265
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,799
Speaker 1: So they're putting this off, putting this off, and finally

2266
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: I walk in the room and they're like, okay, he's here,

2267
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: do the award. And so the award happens, and I

2268
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: go up there and and I don't remember anything about it,

2269
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: but Ty said I spoke well and that is awesome.

2270
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 1: I oh, that's so walked off the stage, right back

2271
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: to the double door exit and right back up to

2272
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 1: the room. Tore all the ship. Good thing he did that, man,

2273
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 1: that's awesome.

2274
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 2: I know.

2275
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did. I would probably that would be

2276
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: something that'd be something you'd regret.

2277
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: I love how you just turned around and walked out,

2278
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:20,959
Speaker 2: just set the scene.

2279
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: Good for him. It was good, is thatch? Was that

2280
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: your second question?

2281
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 2: No?

2282
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: So this is uh.

2283
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 4: I guess more or less athlete mindset. And maybe Taylor

2284
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 4: and Will can relate to this, but they may not

2285
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 4: know this, but you went on a four year losing streak.

2286
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 4: You what was your mentality like during the middle of

2287
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 4: those four years where you were just not winning.

2288
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 1: Like I was going I was saying to my I

2289
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: was saying to only a very very few individuals that

2290
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to quit, like this is miserable, this sucks.

2291
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. How can I

2292
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: end this? How can I get out of this? How

2293
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 1: can I stop this? I just don't want to And

2294
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have the I didn't say it to like

2295
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: my car owner, Rick Hendrick, or my team because I

2296
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: was I knew one that I wasn't being honest with myself,

2297
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 1: and obviously I didn't want to destroy the relationship. Rick

2298
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 1: wasn't giving up on me as an owner. He gave

2299
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: me a whole lot longer leash than he gave other guys. Right,

2300
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 1: so he because he you know, if other guys didn't

2301
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: get their stuff together and run, well, he sent them

2302
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: down the road. And he hung on to me for

2303
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 1: way longer than that, right, And I knew that, And uh,

2304
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 1: there was part of me that was thinking, if I

2305
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: keep coming back, it'll it'll turn around, right, It's got

2306
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 1: to turn around. But they're in there, you know. In

2307
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 1: some of the toughest moments, you're just like, I want

2308
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 1: to disappear. Even if I regret this and I just

2309
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 1: feel like a failure, I'll just I'll just fade in.

2310
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 1: I'll fade into the beach somewhere and nobody will ever

2311
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. I'm glad I didn't, right,

2312
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't take that. That would have been

2313
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: the easy, cheap way to do it. But uh, I

2314
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: was glad I stuck it out. We got back to

2315
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: winning some races and had some things to enjoy, you know,

2316
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: at the back end of the career, and that was

2317
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 1: really really good. Steve Gatart came in and yeah, brought

2318
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 1: a whole right, So yeah, is that who's that? Who

2319
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: you say, Steve Latart, that was the crew chief that

2320
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: came in. I changed crewchiefs. Yeah, I changed crechief pivot,

2321
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: so I changed crew chiefs. So things were bad. Four

2322
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 1: year losing streak. Not a no, not a threat. Right,

2323
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: And people in the garage and you know, you know, uh,

2324
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: guys on teams that are that you may even look

2325
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: at like this, but they're not a threat, never gonna

2326
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: be anything you gotta worry about, right, They're not any

2327
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 1: They're not competition to you. And you thought you reviewed

2328
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, and the ground, it's gotta be a

2329
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 1: tough feeling to have God.

2330
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Especially for like four years. You're like, what am I doing?

2331
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: So I changed crew chiefs. And this guy that came in,

2332
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: his name Steve Latart. He was kind of kind of

2333
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 1: rejected by the driver that was driving for him a

2334
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: little bit. At least he viewed it as I'm not

2335
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: wanted by this guy. And he came to me and

2336
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 1: he said, I think me and you were both looking

2337
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: at our last chance. He said to you, yeah, and

2338
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 1: he's like, we're gonna do this and we're gonna make

2339
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 1: it work, or you know, if you don't do what

2340
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: I need you to do, then it ain't gonna work.

2341
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: And so he's he looked at my approach and my

2342
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 1: prep and said, you know you're gonna need to be

2343
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 1: at the truck an hour before before practice starts. I

2344
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 1: was just showing up right on time before. Yeah, that

2345
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 1: was good enough. And he's like, I need you there

2346
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 1: an hour early. I need you to stay as late

2347
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 1: as I need you, whether it's four hours, ten hours,

2348
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You just don't leave till I tell

2349
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: you you're clear. And he just had all these rules

2350
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 1: and I never had anybody place that in front of me.

2351
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, all right, if it's my

2352
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: last chance and it's your last chance, I'll follow every rule.

2353
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll do everything you asked me to do. That's and dude,

2354
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 1: we did it. We got better. It took a while

2355
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 1: now as a process, but we got back to victory

2356
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Lane and we won a handful of races, and day

2357
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred, I won a Martinsville clock. I mean,

2358
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: we had some great years where we ran good top fives,

2359
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 1: top fives, top fives, contending every weekend. It was awesome.

2360
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Then he caught h and then so things

2361
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 1: are at their best, right, everything's everything is amazing, right

2362
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 1: twosand and fourteen, going going into twenty fourteen. So we're

2363
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of a great and we're doing good

2364
01:57:56,360 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen and I got a h I got

2365
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 1: a rumor. So I told me a rumor that he

2366
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: was going to take a broadcasting job with NBC. And

2367
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: I was like, how could he do that? Hell you

2368
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 1: confront of him about it?

2369
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 4: No.

2370
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 1: So I got this rumor on the way into Charlotte

2371
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 1: Murder Speedway. We were racing there in May. So I've

2372
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: got this screwchief right, and he we we're doing well.

2373
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 1: And when we don't do well, instead of looking at

2374
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: me and going all right, man, I need you to

2375
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: try a little harder, he looked at me and he said,

2376
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 1: I got to build you a better car. And I'm like,

2377
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: holy shit, I've never heard that, right. I always heard

2378
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 1: that I made the mistake, or I needed to try harder.

2379
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't dedicated, I wasn't focused today, never had of

2380
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 1: a guy told me the car I built you wasn't

2381
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 1: good enough for you and I got to do better.

2382
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 1: And I was like this new shit.

2383
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2384
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,919
Speaker 1: And he was a massive, awesome cheerleader, always cheer always

2385
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 1: like come on, man, we can do it. Come on.

2386
01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: Standing there always cracking the whip. Come on, come on,

2387
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 1: we can do it. You know, if you're talking, you

2388
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 1: know you're hearing your hearing this over the radio. It's

2389
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 1: pumping you up every race. Anyways, you know, he's taking

2390
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: this job as a broadcaster, and I was devastated, and so,

2391
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 1: uh we ended up. Uh, you know, I go to

2392
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 1: him and I'm like, dude, I heard this thing, and

2393
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I wanted to tell you, but you know,

2394
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You sorry, the rumor got to you before

2395
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 1: I could get to you. Yeah, I told you himself. Yeah,

2396
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:31,839
Speaker 1: And so we ended up doing his final year twenty fourteen.

2397
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 2: We won.

2398
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: I have four races maybe something like that. And uh,

2399
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 1: then he went into TV, and so I raced a

2400
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 1: few more years and had some more fun. And then

2401
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 1: when I got ready to retire, I went to the

2402
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 1: booth where he works. Really yeah, I said, hey, man,

2403
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 1: you cool. If I come to the booth, they're offering

2404
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: me this job. He's like, come on, yeah, that's awesome.

2405
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 1: Now we're back.

2406
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 2: I love that.

2407
01:59:58,240 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that for sure.

2408
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 3: Those two years after he left, was there like a

2409
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 3: nervousness transition like that support systems kind of gone.

2410
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 1: Nope, So we had there was there was this prospect,

2411
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,760
Speaker 1: prospect Greg guy'es was his name. He's a crew chief,

2412
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:17,640
Speaker 1: bright engineering mind. And I talked to Steve and I said, okay,

2413
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 1: I said, man, you're leaving me. You got one job

2414
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 1: outside of us going through this final year together. You

2415
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: got one damn job. Like every time there's a void

2416
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 1: in this team, you don't try to just feel it.

2417
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: You try to put a better person in that position.

2418
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,400
Speaker 1: If we lose a guy for whatever reason, he either

2419
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 1: gets fired because he doesn't do his job, or he

2420
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 1: gets hired by somebody else, you always try to bring

2421
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 1: in somebody that's even better. It's not you. You never

2422
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 1: bring in a guy that's the same or worse. Right.

2423
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 1: You always anytime you have an opportunity to fill that void.

2424
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:56,360
Speaker 1: I said, now it's your turn to fill your own void. Dude.

2425
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2426
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: I was like, find me that guy that's better than you.

2427
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:01,640
Speaker 1: I was like, here's all the names. I'm here, and

2428
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 1: here's here's the people that we could go after. And

2429
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 1: he's like, that's the guy right away. And I'm like,

2430
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 1: I like that guy too. I'm glad you feel that way.

2431
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 1: That's cool.

2432
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that that's hard transitioning from anybody, but

2433
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 3: just having having the sports system and yeah, that's cool.

2434
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 1: He was so cool about that. And that's one of

2435
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 1: the tough things about I don't know if that's one

2436
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 1: of the tough things about life is learning that not

2437
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna fall in love with people, You're

2438
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 1: gonna make these amazing friendships with people, whether it's your wife,

2439
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 1: your best friend, your dad, your your your cousin, your

2440
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 1: your buddy from high school. But none of that stuff

2441
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 1: lasts forever. That was such a hard lesson to learn,

2442
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: and it's still not easy to to take right. I mean,

2443
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:49,480
Speaker 1: I I had this guy that was like a grandfather

2444
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 1: to me when I first started racing, and we had

2445
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 1: to split up because of for me to learn more

2446
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 1: about my cars, I needed to work on them, and

2447
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 1: that meant him drying an hour to work every day.

2448
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm not driving an hour to work

2449
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 1: because the cars were at his shop, and I was like,

2450
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: I need to work on them every day. I need

2451
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 1: I can't drive, you know, I can't go down there.

2452
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 1: He's like, we just had to split and it was

2453
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: it was like a death man like because he was

2454
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 1: like a granddad to me, I love this man, and

2455
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:21,160
Speaker 1: uh and and and I think, you know, splitting with

2456
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 1: Steve at that time. Those are difficult things to deal

2457
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:29,520
Speaker 1: with in life, but you got to realize that nothing

2458
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 1: lasts forever. Nothing.

2459
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that is that is so true too. It's

2460
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 2: like sometimes like just think about like almost being done

2461
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 2: with ball, like damn, like this chapter that you've worked,

2462
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 2: you know, up to twenty three years to play it.

2463
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:44,760
Speaker 2: You know, a sport that you you know, you know

2464
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 2: the average career is light, and then to play and

2465
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 2: then you know, now you know, like it's almost final

2466
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 2: and over, regardless if I want it to be or not.

2467
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 2: It's just crazy to think, like you know, something you

2468
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 2: think is going to be forever, knowing that it's not,

2469
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,040
Speaker 2: and then it's finally here at the finish line or

2470
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 2: you know it is. It is nuts. And then friendships,

2471
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 2: like you know, Taylor was mentioning it on you were

2472
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 2: talking about like seasonal stuff, Like it's just crazy.

2473
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 3: That these friends in your life are like seasons. Like

2474
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 3: you there has this big vertical leap and you're like, God,

2475
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:19,720
Speaker 3: this guy's the best. Then for whatever reason, it kind

2476
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 3: of just fizzles out. But then you make like two

2477
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 3: or three that are like lifetime friends.

2478
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: Sure.

2479
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. The best are the ones where you

2480
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:29,280
Speaker 1: might not hear from them for a long time, but

2481
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: you can pick it right back up. That's how me

2482
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: and my high school are. Man, they don't give you that,

2483
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 1: They don't give you that that feeling of that vibe

2484
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: that man.

2485
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 2: You should have stayed in touch the whole time.

2486
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: Why haven't you been calling me? Yeah, they're just like

2487
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 1: glad to hear from you.

2488
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a buddy who can get off the

2489
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 3: phone with and a month later call back and pick

2490
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:45,760
Speaker 3: up on the same conversation.

2491
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:48,120
Speaker 1: Those are the Those are the ones that last forever. Yeah,

2492
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 1: that's awesome.

2493
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 2: The boys when you when.

2494
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:55,080
Speaker 3: You were talking about your dad and like kind of

2495
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:57,880
Speaker 3: always wanting him to give you that that approval, and

2496
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:01,280
Speaker 3: like when you start racing, you started to see that.

2497
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:03,720
Speaker 3: You guys, when he went from preaching to okay, you're

2498
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,240
Speaker 3: kind of working together as a tutoring when he did

2499
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 3: pass away, Where were you guys at in your relationship?

2500
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:11,920
Speaker 1: Was it really everything you wanted it to be? Yeah,

2501
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: it was amazing. I was uh.

2502
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 2: We I was this? Uh I was this.

2503
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put this into words and

2504
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,480
Speaker 1: articulate just right. But man, he was looking at me like,

2505
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 1: this is gonna be part of the future of my business, right,

2506
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean it had to be. I had won, uh

2507
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, over a dozen races in the Xfinity Series,

2508
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 1: two championships back to back, and was moving into the

2509
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 1: Cup Series, had won the All Star Race as a rookie,

2510
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 1: won at Texas and Richmond, and I had this potential, right,

2511
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 1: I had this this uh, this this prospect of success.

2512
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 1: And he was building this brand new race team to

2513
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 1: to be the best, to be best in the business.

2514
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 1: They called the shop the garage, Ma Hall. Let me

2515
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing was just big. This whole

2516
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 1: dream envision of his was really becoming a reality. Dad

2517
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:13,200
Speaker 1: could walk into the garage up to the best motor builder,

2518
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: no matter who he worked for, and say I want

2519
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 1: to talk to you about coming to work for me,

2520
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: and that guy would more than likely say I got

2521
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,960
Speaker 1: time to talk to you, you know he would. That

2522
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 1: person was never going to say good where I'm at? Yeah,

2523
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 1: thanks deal. They were always gonna think about it. Consider it.

2524
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 1: That was dyl Earnhardt asking him to come to his

2525
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 1: and he was going to take them and spend as

2526
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:39,600
Speaker 1: long as it took to convince them that this was

2527
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,720
Speaker 1: the future and they were a part of it. And

2528
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 1: he was just amazing at that. And so what I

2529
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,000
Speaker 1: guess I'm getting at is that he had he was

2530
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 1: going to absolutely build one of the best race teams

2531
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 1: that this sport would ever see, most successful race teams

2532
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 1: that this sport was ever would ever see. He had

2533
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:00,160
Speaker 1: the ability to get all of the people that he

2534
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 1: needed to build the best, fastest race cars and you

2535
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 1: weren't going to beat them. And uh And I think

2536
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,880
Speaker 1: that he was looking at me as a corner piece

2537
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: to that puzzle. You know that those are the ones

2538
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 1: that you put on the table first, yeah, right to

2539
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 1: build it. And I think he was looking at me

2540
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:18,879
Speaker 1: as like one of those more of the key pieces

2541
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 1: that was going to be part of the future. That's awesome.

2542
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys build puzzles, but I'm

2543
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 1: the I'm the corner piece. Yeah, I get this usually

2544
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 1: to the throne, as you know, as a dad of

2545
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: a three year over doing the puzzles. Yeah, that Legs

2546
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: were trying to teach her about the corners and like

2547
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: get the corners out, and both of you you do

2548
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 1: the corners and then the outside. That's right.

2549
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,839
Speaker 2: Listen, both of you are fathers of two daughters.

2550
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have two daughters. Hold it they now three

2551
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 3: and eight months. Gosh, I have mine just turned four,

2552
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 3: and they have one that's certain one.

2553
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 1: In a week. Yeah, it's awesome.

2554
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 3: It's it is awesome. It's it's definitely. It's cool to

2555
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:57,800
Speaker 3: see their different personalities. You have one, you're like, okay,

2556
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 3: they're all like this, right, and when you have the

2557
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 3: next one, like, listen, this is way different, you know,

2558
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 3: but it's very cool being a dead That's awesome.

2559
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:05,000
Speaker 2: It is.

2560
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy how different they look. You'd think, I mean,

2561
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm not. This is different for every parent. Some parents

2562
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 1: their kids do look similar. But they these two that

2563
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 1: I got, man, they appear to be complete opposites. And

2564
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:23,600
Speaker 1: their whole vibe they give off is not the same. Yeah,

2565
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 1: and uh but it's fun and it's good and but

2566
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 1: it's so challenging to try to my three year old

2567
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:36,839
Speaker 1: and and you're probably dealing with this too. Is pushing

2568
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 1: the buttons, right, and she's she's testing our limits, and

2569
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:46,200
Speaker 1: uh boy, she says some things that she doesn't know

2570
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 1: are rude, right, Get out of that is the hardest thing.

2571
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 2: I saw Taylor's oldest win almost choked Taylor to death.

2572
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,360
Speaker 2: I remember that she didn't want to get out of

2573
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:54,640
Speaker 2: the pool.

2574
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 3: She's like screaming, it's tough, man, because yeah, I mean

2575
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:02,880
Speaker 3: my childhood wasn't the best and so like for me,

2576
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 3: it's like, I want to make sure that you guys

2577
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 3: have everything you need without being spoiled and also appreciate

2578
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:12,480
Speaker 3: the things you have. And it's just you just don't

2579
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 3: want to You just don't want to be like that kid.

2580
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 3: Whatever the in that situation is, that's kind of act

2581
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 3: like that. And so teaching them that conference, like what

2582
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 3: you're saying is is when they just say things to

2583
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 3: you and they're it's so rude, but they don't know

2584
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 3: it's rude, and like I'll be talking to I'll be like,

2585
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 3: stop talking, yes, dude, go ahead.

2586
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:37,640
Speaker 1: So I went in i was room the other day

2587
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 1: and and uh She's laying in there and I'm like,

2588
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, hey, you're good. She's like get out. Yeah,

2589
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:47,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like you're three, Yeah, what the hell.

2590
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 3: You're like nine twelve, Yeah, get out of my room, dad,

2591
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 3: But she's three and saying get out of here, and

2592
02:08:56,360 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 3: the most random things will be so mean to you,

2593
02:08:58,040 --> 02:09:00,200
Speaker 3: and then the next minute they'll like kind of crawl over, yeah,

2594
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:01,440
Speaker 3: snug on you a little bit and turn around just

2595
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 3: give you a kiss, and you're.

2596
02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 1: Like, that's all right.

2597
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, my kids are awesome. I'm gonna be definitely be

2598
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 3: that dad when they start doing stuff like see what

2599
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:13,600
Speaker 3: my kid did?

2600
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 2: He always to having them what they did there? I

2601
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 2: always got the video on your phone videos.

2602
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 1: Do you wish you had a boy? No, because I

2603
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 1: so I was thinking about my own life, thinking about

2604
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 1: growing up, and you know, the thinking about growing up

2605
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 1: in my dad's house and how much people expected and thought, Man,

2606
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're just automatically gonna be this rock star

2607
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 1: race car driver. I'm just gonna you know, you're gonna

2608
02:09:47,800 --> 02:09:49,840
Speaker 1: follow right in your dad's footsteps and do everything he

2609
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 1: did and more. And I might not have been as

2610
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 1: self aware of all that when I was a kid,

2611
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 1: but I definitely wouldn't want to have to watch my

2612
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:03,880
Speaker 1: son be a subject to that, right, And so I

2613
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 1: didn't want a son. I wanted to I wanted another

2614
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 1: girl the second time. If it was going to be

2615
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:10,840
Speaker 1: a boy, I was gonna do what you know, I

2616
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 1: was it was gonna be fine, but I'm selfish and

2617
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be fine. Yeah.

2618
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:20,080
Speaker 2: It's almost like there's some other option, like, you know,

2619
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 2: that's what I'm going to be.

2620
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make that clear. I because people aren't

2621
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 1: supposed to wish for one of the just you know,

2622
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 1: want a healthy baby, right, and so I feel I

2623
02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 1: feel okay, So my wife is badass, and my little

2624
02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 1: my first girl is giving me all this love, right,

2625
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I'll take some one of this.

2626
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:53,640
Speaker 1: This is great, right. My whole house just bubbling over

2627
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 1: with you know, it's pouring out the windows right just

2628
02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:59,400
Speaker 1: uh you know, and I think a little boy would

2629
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:05,120
Speaker 1: come in there and just be like Tasmanian devil, right yeah,

2630
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:07,320
Speaker 1: and just creating all kinds of difficulties.

2631
02:11:07,400 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 2: But would you name them in the third.

2632
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:10,760
Speaker 3: No?

2633
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 2: Hell no, And so damn don't think it easy. I'm

2634
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 2: the third note.

2635
02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 1: No, hell no, that'd be awesome.

2636
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 4: No.

2637
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 3: The junior is the thing that's like, all right, well

2638
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:25,200
Speaker 3: you get it going, yeah, get it. It's like, oh,

2639
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 3: I felt.

2640
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 2: That paintings hanging in on some royalty water.

2641
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:36,560
Speaker 1: Mustaches. It was the first to say, yeah, I was

2642
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 1: worried that I would screw up the boy that I would.

2643
02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 1: I felt like that I wasn't parent material in terms

2644
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 1: of being able to treat teach them uh right and

2645
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:52,520
Speaker 1: wrong and manners. And I don't have that. In my mind,

2646
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I don't have that ability. I'm not a parent.

2647
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2648
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm never parented. I'm probably going to be pretty bad

2649
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:00,560
Speaker 1: as everybody before they have their first Yeah.

2650
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at my wife, going, now, she's got it,

2651
02:12:04,760 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 3: even though she's probably sitting there going, I don't got it.

2652
02:12:07,760 --> 02:12:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. I'm looking at everyone.

2653
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 1: She knows what she's doing.

2654
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:14,600
Speaker 3: And she can keep these girls in line because she

2655
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 3: knows girls, right. I don't and and and I can't

2656
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:22,760
Speaker 3: screw these girls up. She's Amy's not going to allow it, right,

2657
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:26,400
Speaker 3: She's gonna raise two perfectly amazing girls, and I will have.

2658
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:27,920
Speaker 1: Nothing to do with it. If not, it's on her,

2659
02:12:28,360 --> 02:12:33,200
Speaker 1: you know. Well, But boy, it was no, There was no.

2660
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 1: It was sure to be a mess. That was the

2661
02:12:37,480 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 1: way I had it in my head. I hear you,

2662
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 1: that is absolutely not the reality of the situation. But

2663
02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:43,960
Speaker 1: that's like, in my mind that's the way I think.

2664
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:46,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm weird. Do you think your patients have

2665
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:49,000
Speaker 1: gotten a lot better? Like for me, whenever my kids

2666
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:52,360
Speaker 1: like I'm coming at me, Yeah, they have. Whenever my

2667
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:54,400
Speaker 1: kids coming at me, my first go to you thought

2668
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:56,760
Speaker 1: is like, how do I handle the situation so you're

2669
02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:58,360
Speaker 1: not traumatized for the rest of your life?

2670
02:12:58,400 --> 02:12:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2671
02:12:58,600 --> 02:13:00,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, How do I handle this

2672
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,800
Speaker 3: situation the right way? My patients have gotten a whole

2673
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:04,240
Speaker 3: lot better.

2674
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean I've I have gotten to the point to

2675
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 1: where like Ilah is trying to do something and I'm like,

2676
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 1: you're not gonna bother me, Like you're trying to get

2677
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,160
Speaker 1: me upset, You're trying to trigger me, You're trying to

2678
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 1: get this reaction out of me. And I'm not gonna

2679
02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:27,040
Speaker 1: not bothered by what you're doing right there and keep

2680
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 1: it on going, right, And So I think I have

2681
02:13:29,960 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 1: I didn't have that in year one, year one and

2682
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:35,120
Speaker 1: a half two, but I've I've kind of I used

2683
02:13:35,120 --> 02:13:37,480
Speaker 1: to let her bother me. Man, she could hurt my feelings.

2684
02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:39,800
Speaker 1: My little two year old could bother hurt my feelings,

2685
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:44,520
Speaker 1: like my wife, right, And I'm like, what I think

2686
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 1: it's almost worse than your two year old does it.

2687
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:49,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how are you able to have that

2688
02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:53,640
Speaker 1: power over me? And so like you work that out?

2689
02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:53,880
Speaker 2: Right?

2690
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:56,960
Speaker 1: I finally, for the most part, work that out. Now,

2691
02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:59,320
Speaker 1: she's gonna have new tools. You know, they get older,

2692
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:01,760
Speaker 1: they come at you with new things. They say that

2693
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:04,320
Speaker 1: they're like, wait, that that hurts that that's a new one.

2694
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2695
02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, and we'll we'll deal with that when

2696
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:12,520
Speaker 1: it happens. But it's, uh, you know, it's it's interesting.

2697
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm hands on, man. I take out of the school,

2698
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:20,000
Speaker 1: pick her up from school. Like when Amy, when we

2699
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 1: had our second one. That first year, I was I was.

2700
02:14:23,320 --> 02:14:25,560
Speaker 1: My job was taking care of Isla. Get her up,

2701
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 1: get her dressed, get her to school, pick her up

2702
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:29,880
Speaker 1: from school, spend the rest of the day with her,

2703
02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:32,520
Speaker 1: get her breath, theater, you know, get her bath, get

2704
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 1: her teeth brush, get her back in bed. I mean, boom,

2705
02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:39,440
Speaker 1: boom boom. Every day I'm down. I wanted to change diapersion,

2706
02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:41,440
Speaker 1: I dove right in, did all the things. Once you

2707
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:43,160
Speaker 1: get the diaper thing down, it's kind of like it's

2708
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of easy done to it. Yeah, tech, I know,

2709
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 1: one day I got you with Bear. Yeah, we'll started

2710
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:50,960
Speaker 1: doing the whole thing.

2711
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:58,120
Speaker 2: Going DoD You got a question, It's been the longest

2712
02:14:58,160 --> 02:15:00,160
Speaker 2: pot we might have ever done rightfully, So I mean

2713
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:02,600
Speaker 2: this is what we needed, like Dale on the you

2714
02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 2: know the Dale bus. I know, what do you think

2715
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 2: of the bus? Yeah?

2716
02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:09,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, I was honored like that y'all chose

2717
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:14,160
Speaker 1: to do your pod in this bus was really cool

2718
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:15,400
Speaker 1: to me. That's awesome.

2719
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:17,160
Speaker 2: It was when he got here. I asked him like,

2720
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:18,880
Speaker 2: what do you think. He's like, it's cool, man. I'm

2721
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:20,040
Speaker 2: thinking like, come on.

2722
02:15:20,200 --> 02:15:24,240
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, this is your number, this is your cool.

2723
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 3: Thing is is like we didn't paint this like this.

2724
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:29,840
Speaker 3: This is Yeah, there's a story about this bus. I've

2725
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:32,000
Speaker 3: come across five or six different people. It's like, oh yeah,

2726
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:34,160
Speaker 3: my buddy's on that bus, and then somebody else's buddy.

2727
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:36,520
Speaker 3: I think it's been around forever, you understand.

2728
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coffy, good deal.

2729
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:50,440
Speaker 1: I think Trader probably yeah, I'm drinking buddy.

2730
02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you guys cool, he flew out here. He's

2731
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:54,839
Speaker 2: going to hang out with a buddy afterwards.

2732
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:58,280
Speaker 3: Trader is the one that drugged in New York. There

2733
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:01,160
Speaker 3: it is finest strip club and of me or it's

2734
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:05,720
Speaker 3: not a strip. You want to listen, it's not a shrip.

2735
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 2: Do you want to know?

2736
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:08,000
Speaker 1: What was crazy about that? Is like, we're in the

2737
02:16:08,040 --> 02:16:13,360
Speaker 1: middle of New York City and and and dive, and

2738
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:18,680
Speaker 1: they had vastcar crashes looped on all the TVs. And

2739
02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I never thought this, this is what I

2740
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:24,600
Speaker 1: would see. I was like, this is the best bar

2741
02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:26,400
Speaker 1: in the world. And I thought it would be in

2742
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 1: like Talladega, Alabama, or Daytona Beach, Florida. But it's in

2743
02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:33,560
Speaker 1: New York City. How cool is that? Yeah, that's awesome.

2744
02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:35,760
Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. I love that. Sit there and

2745
02:16:35,800 --> 02:16:38,560
Speaker 1: watch that all day drinking beer and I love that.

2746
02:16:38,920 --> 02:16:41,000
Speaker 2: I love how much you love beer on a loop?

2747
02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, drink I watched.

2748
02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he did only drink two beers, but we were.

2749
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 1: Only on your little trick. I hear, what was that?

2750
02:16:55,240 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 1: So you're college boys, right, y'all drink playing beer in college?

2751
02:16:57,840 --> 02:16:58,000
Speaker 2: Huh?

2752
02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:01,360
Speaker 1: You've never seen that? No, So this is so when

2753
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:04,760
Speaker 1: you drink a lot, you don't drop it, see that.

2754
02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 1: And also, so it's a grip you're creating. Also speeds

2755
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:10,520
Speaker 1: the float up out.

2756
02:17:10,400 --> 02:17:10,760
Speaker 2: Of the beer.

2757
02:17:11,959 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh, if you want to speed the flu a little Okay,

2758
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:15,640
Speaker 1: here we go, just give a little flush. And then

2759
02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:18,320
Speaker 1: you got to yeah, I ain't doing that that like beer,

2760
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:20,160
Speaker 1: Well you're going to lose a thumb.

2761
02:17:20,440 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I might get caught.

2762
02:17:21,800 --> 02:17:24,600
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, don't try that, don't. I don't do

2763
02:17:24,720 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 1: that right here, because absolutely gonna cut your thumb off.

2764
02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:30,080
Speaker 1: He just starts bleeding everywhere, just starts gushing. Give that

2765
02:17:30,200 --> 02:17:33,400
Speaker 1: a go. One day I saw a guy I went

2766
02:17:33,480 --> 02:17:36,119
Speaker 1: to hang with my sister. I was fifteen, sixteen years old,

2767
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:37,960
Speaker 1: and I drove down to her college at Wilmington and

2768
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:41,720
Speaker 1: set around a table drinking, playing President and Assholes with him.

2769
02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:45,120
Speaker 1: What's president? Assholes? Nobody's ever heard of president?

2770
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:47,560
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe back then?

2771
02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:52,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's another no questions king?

2772
02:17:53,520 --> 02:17:57,720
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, circle of death. Well there was a

2773
02:17:58,000 --> 02:17:59,840
Speaker 1: we call it President and Assholes. There's an asshole in

2774
02:17:59,879 --> 02:18:00,560
Speaker 1: there as a president.

2775
02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2776
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:05,520
Speaker 1: And there was this guy ditting his cans and he

2777
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:07,080
Speaker 1: was like, so I can count how many I've had

2778
02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:08,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the night. But he's also telling

2779
02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:09,279
Speaker 1: me about the flow.

2780
02:18:09,160 --> 02:18:11,200
Speaker 2: And he doesn't drop behind.

2781
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:13,480
Speaker 1: It does help with the flow. I don't understand that

2782
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:15,800
Speaker 1: you have to try it to see it. But the

2783
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:24,760
Speaker 1: beer flows over the Okay, Tony's back there, He's just

2784
02:18:24,959 --> 02:18:25,680
Speaker 1: the beer goes.

2785
02:18:25,640 --> 02:18:26,000
Speaker 2: Over, the.

2786
02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 1: Beer goes over the hunk, and then can right here?

2787
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:35,720
Speaker 2: Why are well? I am.

2788
02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:40,280
Speaker 1: You're not gonna drown. I promise it's not gonna come

2789
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:43,280
Speaker 1: out so fast you can't handle it. Chuck that, chuck

2790
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 1: it the whole thing. It's too fast. It's too fast.

2791
02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:50,320
Speaker 2: Just to see the speed. You see the speed half

2792
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do a little bit.

2793
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:54,560
Speaker 1: I hear the bubbling. It's already not worth it.

2794
02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Man, Okay, did you hear the did

2795
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,440
Speaker 2: you hear the bubb time? Yeah? I feel like it

2796
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:07,800
Speaker 2: was kind of the same speed space.

2797
02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:12,400
Speaker 1: See if you vented, of course it's gonna problem. You're

2798
02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:14,480
Speaker 1: not gonna get You're not gonna get the I think.

2799
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:16,960
Speaker 2: If you did it, I know you can't. But I

2800
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:19,040
Speaker 2: feel like the best the best person to do this

2801
02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:21,320
Speaker 2: example is definitely him, because he could he get hold it.

2802
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:22,640
Speaker 2: We could actually watch the flow.

2803
02:19:23,640 --> 02:19:25,360
Speaker 3: I can open the throat. I spent a little time

2804
02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:28,720
Speaker 3: with Juvie. It's not a big deal anyway, just kidding,

2805
02:19:30,560 --> 02:19:34,200
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. I appreciate you coming on the bus.

2806
02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is awesome.

2807
02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:38,520
Speaker 3: Literally, it's a lot of times you sit there with

2808
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:41,320
Speaker 3: somebody new and you kind of do this around about

2809
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:43,120
Speaker 3: we're trying to fee each other out. You came on

2810
02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:45,959
Speaker 3: you telling stories in my mouth is just open listening.

2811
02:19:46,400 --> 02:19:48,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Grandpa sitting around a fire,

2812
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:51,119
Speaker 2: just tell tales, war stories.

2813
02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:54,039
Speaker 1: And it was awesome. I've been for a long time. Man,

2814
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys had me on last year. And

2815
02:19:57,280 --> 02:20:00,280
Speaker 1: you know it's Uh, I love the bus, love what

2816
02:20:00,400 --> 02:20:03,360
Speaker 1: you guys are doing. I do podcasts, so I kind

2817
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 1: of keep up with what you guys are up to.

2818
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:07,320
Speaker 1: We are all kind of learning from each other and

2819
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:09,040
Speaker 1: taking things off each other that we like.

2820
02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:12,360
Speaker 2: And uh, I'll not to force ourselves on you, but

2821
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:13,720
Speaker 2: you know we should probably get on the day.

2822
02:20:13,760 --> 02:20:14,400
Speaker 1: We'll probably come on.

2823
02:20:14,760 --> 02:20:15,760
Speaker 2: We could probably come on there.

2824
02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:19,600
Speaker 1: We also talked about in your last on the last podcast,

2825
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:21,640
Speaker 1: you're on this whole western town.

2826
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:24,000
Speaker 3: You have, Yes, you need to come. We're still waiting

2827
02:20:24,080 --> 02:20:27,199
Speaker 3: on that call. We're still I don't know how that works.

2828
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:28,600
Speaker 3: You just wanting to show up at the door with

2829
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:31,000
Speaker 3: a stick and you do the same thing. Hey, it's

2830
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:32,480
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven. You can come whenever you want.

2831
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:33,680
Speaker 3: See it feels we're right.

2832
02:20:33,879 --> 02:20:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we just don't know him like I know you,

2833
02:20:37,320 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 1: and we'll sort it all out. Yeah, I'm figuring it right.

2834
02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're texting you guys.

2835
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:43,240
Speaker 3: Just call me.

2836
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:46,360
Speaker 1: I'll be on the Southwest see thirty. I'll be on

2837
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:48,080
Speaker 1: that thing. No problem, dude.

2838
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:51,360
Speaker 2: I feel like, uh, you'd probably enjoy just the way

2839
02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:53,080
Speaker 2: you're out there talking about your truck. I'm like, I'm

2840
02:20:53,080 --> 02:20:55,160
Speaker 2: sure they both know what each other's saying here.

2841
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:58,320
Speaker 3: But listen, I finish, I'm gonna sit there and talk

2842
02:20:58,360 --> 02:20:59,800
Speaker 3: for six seconds and he'll go and I'll be like you,

2843
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:03,160
Speaker 3: you know, like I like the way trucks run.

2844
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:05,080
Speaker 1: I love beautiful old vehicles.

2845
02:21:05,959 --> 02:21:07,480
Speaker 2: And that's We'll go check it out.

2846
02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:10,600
Speaker 1: Choose oil. I can get that done for you, no problem.

2847
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:14,400
Speaker 1: Maybe depends on the all right.

2848
02:21:14,560 --> 02:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Subscribe rate review barstools sports dot com, slash Merch. That's

2849
02:21:18,840 --> 02:21:22,680
Speaker 2: where you can get our merch YouTube channel. Subscribe, hit

2850
02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:25,320
Speaker 2: the algorithms, comment below, do all the fun stuff. I'm

2851
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:28,320
Speaker 2: sure NASCAR culture might be killing us for the Billy Elliott,

2852
02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:29,520
Speaker 2: for the Bill Elliot stuff, but.

2853
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:30,720
Speaker 1: Probably where's Bill out?

2854
02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:30,840
Speaker 2: Now?

2855
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:34,160
Speaker 1: What do you think more about killing you, more about

2856
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:37,039
Speaker 1: what you called the series, And oh yeah, I didn't

2857
02:21:37,040 --> 02:21:39,600
Speaker 1: even know that was that bad, the Circle Track NASCAR

2858
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:40,600
Speaker 1: racing series.

2859
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:47,080
Speaker 2: Seriously, just getting drug out there.

2860
02:21:47,480 --> 02:21:50,320
Speaker 1: It's better than right around the same thing as awesome

2861
02:21:50,360 --> 02:21:51,560
Speaker 1: Bill from or whatever.

2862
02:21:53,080 --> 02:21:54,560
Speaker 2: And we just went in on him. He goes, listen,

2863
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have.

2864
02:21:57,040 --> 02:21:57,880
Speaker 1: Assholes whatever.

2865
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:02,039
Speaker 3: Nastar culture is killing us right now. Yeah, but Bill

2866
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:04,920
Speaker 3: is still around. Yeah, he's still He's still do his thing.

2867
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:07,320
Speaker 3: Was your dad and him rivals. I'm still trying to

2868
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:07,520
Speaker 3: do it.

2869
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:08,400
Speaker 1: What am I doing here?

2870
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:11,160
Speaker 2: You probably want to go the kids.

2871
02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:13,400
Speaker 1: He's got to go to sleep soon.

2872
02:22:13,480 --> 02:22:15,000
Speaker 2: And I think as long as he's asking a question,

2873
02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:15,800
Speaker 2: I guess we're good.

2874
02:22:15,640 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 3: On Town's cool. Yeah, those kids have been missing their

2875
02:22:19,720 --> 02:22:22,480
Speaker 3: dad all day, you know what I'm saying. But your

2876
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:25,200
Speaker 3: dad and him, yeah they were good. Yeah, that's a

2877
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:28,800
Speaker 3: very few run ins, but everybody does. Then with the intimidator,

2878
02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:31,760
Speaker 3: who was his big bible? Go YouTube and watch the

2879
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:34,760
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven Winston All Star Race.

2880
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:36,720
Speaker 1: Just that's one. If you're going to watch a race

2881
02:22:36,760 --> 02:22:39,840
Speaker 1: about NASCAR history, that's the one. Go watch that one.

2882
02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 1: There's others, but that that'll be a good one for that,

2883
02:22:42,080 --> 02:22:45,480
Speaker 1: all right, nineteen eighty seven all Star Winston, they called

2884
02:22:45,480 --> 02:22:48,520
Speaker 1: it the Winston The Winston, Yeah, because Winston Cigarettes was

2885
02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:49,080
Speaker 1: a big deal.

2886
02:22:50,120 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 2: Cigarettes was a big deal back then.

2887
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:53,720
Speaker 1: I think they kind of still are, yeah, but not

2888
02:22:53,959 --> 02:22:55,760
Speaker 1: like I mean they they.

2889
02:22:55,720 --> 02:22:59,520
Speaker 2: Were on signed like hate smoke cigarettes, like it's all good. Yeah, yeah,

2890
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:03,879
Speaker 2: but yeah, and then whenever nash nas Nascar, suffs comes

2891
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:08,840
Speaker 2: in that I'm sorry walking behind Yeah.

2892
02:23:08,879 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 1: Hey, we used to have a guy on our team

2893
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:13,000
Speaker 1: called two Beers because he would get like this after.

2894
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:17,360
Speaker 3: A couple of struggle to struggles, struggle to put thoughts together.

2895
02:23:20,120 --> 02:23:21,640
Speaker 1: I had a buddy named Chris back home.

2896
02:23:21,720 --> 02:23:23,680
Speaker 3: He the first thing to go is his speech, you know,

2897
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 3: fully functional, just words aren't coming out for the poor guy,

2898
02:23:26,959 --> 02:23:28,800
Speaker 3: Chris l It's my cat man.

2899
02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:32,440
Speaker 2: I love him. But when NASCAR comes to Nashville, we

2900
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:34,360
Speaker 2: obviously need to be communicating because we need to have

2901
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:38,040
Speaker 2: this bus somewhere visible. You know what I'm saying, Right

2902
02:23:38,120 --> 02:23:41,120
Speaker 2: on the track, Right on the track, guys, move around it.

2903
02:23:41,120 --> 02:23:45,040
Speaker 2: You know, you do your thing in the booth, Tony

2904
02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Wall hang by it. It's been most Rex ever because

2905
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:51,400
Speaker 2: there's a bus in the movie. But appreciate it. Man.

2906
02:23:51,920 --> 02:23:54,680
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm I'm excited to uh to finally be on

2907
02:23:54,760 --> 02:23:56,880
Speaker 1: the show and can't wait for folks to hear it.

2908
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:59,720
Speaker 1: Get that feedback, man, we need that NASCAR. What's the

2909
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:03,280
Speaker 1: name of podcast? The Dale Junior Download Dale Junior Download

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02:24:03,440 --> 02:24:05,400
Speaker 1: all major podcast platforms, let's go.

2911
02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:09,440
Speaker 2: We're always in the same realm, and the rankings download

2912
02:24:09,920 --> 02:24:12,360
Speaker 2: they stay a little more consistently above us. But there

2913
02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:15,320
Speaker 2: are some times now we're all in the same realm

2914
02:24:15,440 --> 02:24:16,160
Speaker 2: we're compete against.

2915
02:24:16,360 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Where do you guys competitive? He's Kyle Busch because he's.

2916
02:24:19,560 --> 02:24:21,360
Speaker 2: In the sports category. Yeah, he's a Kyle Busch.

2917
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:35,640
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Appreciate you man, Thank you so much,

2918
02:24:35,640 --> 02:24:37,120
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Thanks for the beer.

2919
02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:43,160
Speaker 2: Big shout out to you guys. If you enjoyed this

2920
02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:47,920
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Speaker 2: and again, we wouldn't be doing this and can't do

2925
02:25:02,879 --> 02:25:05,120
Speaker 2: this without you guys and all of your support. We

2926
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:07,640
Speaker 2: also have a YouTube channel if you like If you'd

2927
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:10,720
Speaker 2: like to watch our show or these episodes, they are

2928
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:13,000
Speaker 2: on YouTube at Bust Them with the Boys. We're also

2929
02:25:13,080 --> 02:25:15,879
Speaker 2: on social media at Busting WTB. You can follow us everywhere,

2930
02:25:16,280 --> 02:25:18,200
Speaker 2: go buy our merch. You guys know that whole deal,

2931
02:25:18,560 --> 02:25:21,120
Speaker 2: But thank you so much. We are forever grateful for you.

2932
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:24,879
Speaker 2: The biggest of hugs and tiniest of kisses for the boys,

2933
02:25:25,160 --> 02:25:26,000
Speaker 2: always and forever,