WEBVTT - 03/09/21 DPS Hour 2 Julius Erving and Dan Orlovsky 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.600 Sports Radio Our two. On this Tuesday, Dan and the 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.120 Danetts Dan Patrick Show spent a lot of time first 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.319 hour talking about the Cowboys with Dak Prescott. So what's next, 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:20.400 Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, anybody. We'll talk to Dan Orlomski 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.119 of the mother Ship. He'll join us, coming up in 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.560 about twenty five minutes from now. Phone calls are welcome 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.040 eight seven seven three d P Show Email and dress 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.720 DPA dan Patrick dot Com, Twitter handle at DP show. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.319 Say good morning to our radio and TV partners. Make 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.760 sure you sign up for the newsletter. 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Now, 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.399 I've never been incentivized since since I was sixty three, 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.880 so you know, what the hell? Yeah, I was wondering 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.080 about that, Like, at what point do you go? I 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.640 don't need to want to or it hurts too much 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.120 to try to dunk. It hurts too much to land 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.840 after the dunk. How old were you plus plus? You 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.160 know I have I have sons who play a little basketball, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.800 and you know, one is six six and the other 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.400 ones about sixty three. So I enjoy watching them do 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.240 it as opposed to me getting out there messing around. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.120 How old were you the first time you dunked? Man? 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.600 You know I cheated, I was I was in elementary school, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.400 and I was on an eight foot basket and I 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.840 had had a small basketball, so I was doing all 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.160 kinds of tricky stuff. I think a lot of stuff 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.360 that people saw me do on a ten foot basket 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.760 started on that eight foot basket and then progress to 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.639 a nine foot and then eventually got to be a 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.519 ten footer. So my my ten foot, ten foot dunk shot, 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:46.040 my dunk on a tenth foot basket was probably at fifteen, fourteen, fifteen, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.680 somewhere in there. But who did you look up to 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.880 when it came to dunking, because I was trying to 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:55.200 think prior to you, unless it was guys playing in 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.960 the Rutger League or Connie Hawkins or some of those guys, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:04.720 who was the guy you looked down? Well? In my neighborhood, Roosevelt, 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:09.080 Long Island, small community, fifteen thousand people, when I walked 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.600 to school every morning, I had to go past the 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:17.560 house of jumping Johnny Green, and he played for the Knicks. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.919 And Johnny wasn't a high scorer, but he would get 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.120 a lot of tippins and tip dumps. So when I 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.640 was blessed to go with my Salvation Army basketball team 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.880 to a Knicks game and sitting the obstructed view seats 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.320 in the old Batterson Square garden, so when you had 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.520 to look around a pole see what was going on 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.800 down on the court, I would see jumping Johnny Green, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.640 and you know he was. He was very inspirational to me, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.720 as was you know, Wilt Chamberlain and the great Elchin 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.560 Balor Well. I remember jumping Johnny Green with the Royals, 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.760 and I think I think Johnny would played at Michigan State, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.040 but he wasn't. He wasn't a tall guy. But you know, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.320 when your name is jumping Johnny, you better be able 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.960 to jump. Really hung Yeah, he six You know they 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.040 probably listened to him at six six, and they did 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.120 back in the day. Always gave you an extra inch, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.240 you know this with a cushioning in your shoe, in 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:20.599 the socks and uh. But he was the nicest guy, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:26.200 and he became a franchise owner McDonald's franchise owner. I 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.920 believe after post career, hired some guys from the neighborhood. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.080 And I used to always visit his place and and 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.680 see him. He always greeted you graciously and with a smile. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.720 He was He was just a super guy man. He 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.760 was a super role model to Halt, I guess I've 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.120 taken this for granted, but I don't remember how you 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.320 officially got your nickname, Doctor Jay. I thought it was 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.880 from a high school friend. But can you tell me 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.800 that story? After all these years, I don't think I've 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:59.040 ever asked you how you got your nickname. No. Uh, 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:04.480 there's two arts to it. One. Initially it was just 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.920 the Doctor and I had a buddy and I called 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.080 him the professor and he called me the Doctor, and 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.599 we had professional SILA League nicknames. His real names Leon 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:19.640 sand is quite cool, y ensnas now and we finished 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.880 that rose about how we go to U mass together. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.520 So the nickname spread a little bit while I was 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:29.760 in college, although it was never totally publicized. And then 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.359 after college, when I signed with the Virginia Squires, I 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.800 started playing in the RUGAE League. Name got more popular 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.880 then because I had an immediate impact on pro basketball 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.520 in the summer. And then when I went to camp 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.160 with the Virginia Squires, they had about two or three 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.920 guys in an organization who did they just called Doc 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.000 And you know, so if you yell Doc in a 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.040 certain room and three three docks were in there. Everybody 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.960 turned around, How are you talking to me? So my 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.560 trainer said you to be doctor j because we got 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.279 Charlie Scott here, and we're gonna promote you guys as 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:12.239 Charlie the Great Scott and Julius doctor j irvit. And 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.560 it has stuck since that time. That was nineteen seventy one. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.720 What were you called in the Rutger League? What was 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.400 your nickname there? They tried to lay a couple of 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.920 nicknames on me. You know, you might have heard. They 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.400 wanted to call me the Claw, and they wanted to 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.960 call me Black Moses, and the guy who was the 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.240 guy who was you know, the games went on in 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.600 perpetuity because you know, they always held the clock back, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.279 that's why the scores were so high, and one fifties, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.320 one sixties. And he would just he would just amuse 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.480 himself and pluck a name out of the sky and say, 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.279 oh man, the Claus hit the baseline again and dumped 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.320 another one or whatever. So I had to go over 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.479 and say, if you're gonna call me anything, that's called 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.320 me the doctor because I didn't I didn't really like 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.480 really yeah, but black Moses is like, you can't go home, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.359 you know, and say, you know, to your family, you know, 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.279 it's I don't want you to call me Julius, it's 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:10.800 black Moses. Now. No, I didn't want. I didn't want 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.880 the whole haul of community calling me black Moses Z. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.240 But thinking I was on the side, I was going 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.120 to say, well, did you ever I don't know if 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.800 you ever fought this. Um. I was fortunate to see 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:27.360 you play against the Kentucky Colonels. I think was the wow. Yeah, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.880 And I always wondered because because we viewed you as 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.880 a dunker. But I don't know if you fought that 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.960 label of being just a dunker even though you were 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.920 far more than that. But that's how we came to 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.120 really realize who you were. But when you went to 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.600 the NBA, were you fighting that, Hey, I'm more than 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:53.600 just a dunker. Oh. It's a good conversation to have 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:58.160 because I always prided myself and having an all around game. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.840 You know, when I retired from basketball, I played professionally 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.640 for sixteen years, and as it turned out, I was 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:13.400 third leading scorer only behind Kareem and Wealth Chamberlain. They 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:21.360 weren't all dunk shots in terms of steals, blocks, scoring, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.560 rebounding was maybe in the top twenty of rebounding, but 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.240 top ten in all three of the other statistical categories. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.880 So I don't think you get those type of stock 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.840 stats from just being one dimensional. And I've seen some guys, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.679 you know, who were just dunkers and they got a 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.200 breakaway dumb. I mean, they were satisfied that they had 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.840 done their job, that's all. I they just brought me 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.600 in the game. You get a dunk shot and then 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.640 you know, sit back down. You know, my job was 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:58.480 to lead, to be inspirational to I don't even my teammates, 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.560 but to the fans. Uh, be a coach on the 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.600 floor and uh and and do do a lot more 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:10.000 and then after that's done, to do some more. So 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.680 so so I approached it as as a job and 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.840 try to have a really good work ethic that would 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.600 inspire others. And even you know, when I was hurt. Uh, 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.520 you know many times I played hurt. I think after 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.640 the first year or second year, you know, nobody, nobody 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.839 doesn't have some sort of pain or some sort of 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:36.640 agony associated with an injury that's just not going to heal. So, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.679 you know, so I'm not a big load management, Uh, 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:45.280 promoter with the load management these days, because so many 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.880 guys did play hurt and felt as though, Hey, if 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.160 I sat down, somebody was gonna come and take my job. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.440 Did you ever feel bad for Michael Cooper with that dunk? 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.920 And in the NBA Michael Power, Hey, I was on 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:03.160 his podcast last week and uh, you know we yucked 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.600 it up a little bit about it. Since we're both 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.439 coaching the Big three Ice cub League, you know, being 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:14.240 able to to make commands. Uh. You know, He's he's 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.480 been really cool about it because he said it keeps 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.719 him relevant, relevant, irrelevant to to the next generation and 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.760 the next generation and the next generation because he because 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:28.560 he was posterized on that particular day. And uh, and 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.720 I kind of agree with him. Well, did you think 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.960 that was more impressive or the one where you went 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:40.040 baseline and came up underneath? Uh in the NBA Finals. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:46.200 I think definitely the baseline move. Uh. You know that 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:51.640 was that was truly floating on air and creating using 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.720 some body control, using the big hand hold of all 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:59.240 out out of bounds and then you know force of 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.760 nature career, if I'm doing the bar was standing under 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:06.120 the basket and it froze him for a second because 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.080 I mean, it's it's something he probably could have easily 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.000 have blocked, but he didn't know what was going on. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.080 I didn't think you were going to get to the 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:20.400 other days and confused and then what would you like 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:26.000 to fly? It's a good feeling, it's it's it's a 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:30.000 good feeling, Dan, you know, actually, you know it started 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.960 on the playgrounds of Long Island, just getting into swings 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.200 and going back and forth and getting a pinnacle and 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.360 then jumping out, going forward and soaring in the air 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.480 and learning how to land, jumping off of a see saw, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.040 playing on the park benches, stepping up on the bench, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:56.199 and just just jumping and feeling free. Uh. There's a 0:11:56.240 --> 0:12:01.600 freedom of expression expression associated with with sarring. And then 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.440 there's an extra bona fit if you saw and you score. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.959 Is there a better dunker than you in the history 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:16.800 of the game. Uh, I think there's some guys who 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.200 have been more impactful, you know. I mean, I'm probably 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:26.240 on the mount rushmore just as an innovator and opening 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.320 the door for a lot of people, and that's the 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:29.920 way it should be. I mean, I think you know, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.920 the first guys in Connie Hawkins and Elgin Baylor and uh, 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.640 you know, I mean so many guys who used used 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:42.160 to throw down Johnny Green before mentioned. You know, they 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.679 opened the door for the next generation, so I would 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:49.400 expect that. You know, there's been three generations since three 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.680 account of generations is ten years since I played the fourth. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.600 And if you don't see improvement, you don't see better dunkers, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.679 then what's going on with these guys? They see it, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.080 they see as possible and then they could take her 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.559 with it to make it better. So that's that's just 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.200 a natural progression of things that make did you think 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:17.120 you were better than Jordan at any point in the beginning? 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.559 You know, it was interesting because when he came out 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.959 of college and we actually he Dominique Wilkins went to 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:29.560 an event in Atlanta, Georgia, and it was a golf 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.960 event and we ended up getting in the gym and 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.400 playing some basketball. You know, so I saw what he had, 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.640 but I also knew what I had and whatever, So 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.320 you know, it was he like he was a junior version. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.960 But as you know, time will tell and the story 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.560 will be told. I mean, that's a six time champions, 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.760 a time MVP or whatever. He certainly surpassed My accomplishments 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:57.440 almost doubled, uh you know uh in championships because I 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.920 had three and three runner ups and I would like 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.760 the Gary player who says, you know, I won the 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.720 Masters five times and I was running und five times. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.440 You had to include that, like that's pretty important when 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:17.079 you come in second, but most important if you validate, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:22.080 you know, your presence in your career by by getting 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.160 over the hump. And that's why it was such a 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:29.360 challenge for me. You know, from nineteen seventy one to 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.640 nineteen eighty one, you know, with all the accolades in 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.000 the in the in the ABA, it was important to 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.120 be MVP in the NBA and eighty one and then 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.280 champion and in the NBA in eighty three because you know, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.560 there are some people on the other side of the 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.560 tracks who only look at that side of we're talking 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.240 to doctor J the Hall of Famer. Coolest thing in 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:56.960 your office is what coolest thing of OSS? I got 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.320 some stuff in here, you know what I mean. I 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:03.760 got an m for the Doctor a documentary. I got 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.600 a nice uh l leek statue of a golfer, which 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.520 is you know, my one of my passions and my 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.840 favorite pastime of these days. And once I get my 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.600 shoulder healed, I can't wait to get back out of 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:23.040 the course. I have a have a trophy in my 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:28.080 office that looks like a Heisman trophy and it was 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.960 given to me by the Dallas Mavericks the last time 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.760 I played in Dallas, because I was in the game 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.640 that welcomed them to the NBA, and upon my retirement, 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:46.520 they created this, uh, this trophy and it's really cool. Well, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.480 you certainly got enough awards there. Do you did you 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.520 keep everything? Like do you have all your your No? No, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.920 I didn't keep everything. I think Bill Russell is the 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.400 only guy I know who has kept everything, because I've 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.720 been to this house a number of times and you 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.080 know it's got all eleven championship rings? Does he show 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.840 those offo doctors? He is in a trophy case. You 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.360 got to walk by it if you walk into the house. 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.160 So that's probably the best collection that I've seen of 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:20.440 a former player. For me, I actually had an auction 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:26.280 maybe about five years ago. So I think the wonderful 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.400 home that I'm living in right now is a testimony 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:34.360 to parting company. Parting company with the stuff It's great 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.160 to talk to you, and I hope you're doing well. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.000 You look good. I don't know how you know that 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.440 the golf game is going to be when you come back. Yeah, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:48.560 how's yours? I took a seven year hiatus from the game, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:54.840 but yeah, my body, Yeah, I had some problems health wise, 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.600 and uh, I love it, but I had to step 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.960 away for seven years. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.400 prior to seven years we were on the golf course together. Well, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.239 that was to see back out there. That was like 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:13.520 ninety nineteen, ninety five, ninety seven, No, that was in 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:19.000 Utah ninety seven, maybe a very exact year. You know. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.040 You so you have a lot of people around you. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.639 They don't know anything. Doc he heard about today. Yeah. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.520 All I know is I dunked on you. I mean, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.320 that's right. That's all I know, is I dunked on you. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.840 It came up, it came up. Yeah, you know that. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.480 That's kind of like the legend in your own mind comment. Yeah, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.280 I mean I'm not lying when I say I dunked 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.880 on doctor j Am. I. Yeah, I'm not the only 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:50.199 Doctor Jay out there. You were the only Doctor j 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.600 on that slab of concrete that day. We lowered the 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.480 basket to eight feet and I just said to Doc, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.320 would you stand underneath the basket? And he's like yeah, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.720 And I took all to dunk on him and I said, Hi, 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.480 I'm good. I just dunked on Doctor Doc. Didn't even 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.400 know what I was doing at the time, so I apologize. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.480 It's great to talk to you, as always talk and 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.679 thank you very much for joining us pleasure. Hey, you 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.679 got a great show. Keep it going. Thank you, buddy. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:24.280 That's uh, Doctor J. Doctor J looks good man. I've 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.639 been in a little while since he dunked. Yeah. Pretty 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.080 good golfer too. But it was during the NBA Finals. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:31.640 I was out there. Jim Gray goes, hey, I'm gonna 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:35.399 play golf with doctor day. I thought we were playing 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.840 golf with the doctor A doctor. I get to the course, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.840 I said, Doctor J. I see Jim Gray. I go, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.400 I'm playing golf with Doctor J today. And we had 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.200 a backup on I think the fifteenth or sixteenth hole, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.199 and there was a basketball court right off for the 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.680 golf course and there was a basketball out there. I said, 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.320 come on, Doc, let's go over and chee a little bit. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.720 So we shot a little bit lowered the hoop to 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.160 eight feet and I said, Doctors, would you stand under there? 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.840 And he goes, yeah, all right, and I dunked on 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:09.639 the hoop. I wish we would have had cell phones 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.720 back they're taking pictures, because it would have looked a 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.439 whole lot more impressive than it sounds. Believe me, he 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.320 was a great sport. Though not many people dunked on Doc. Yeah. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.399 Point he was so popular that, like for Chicago, I'm 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.040 not exactly a Philadelphia sports fan, but they made a 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.120 poster back in the seventy was the Doctor and he's 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.159 standing over a table and he's wearing scrubs. Yeah, everybody 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.840 bought it. Yeah, you didn't have to live in anywhere 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.200 near Philly. Yeah. Currently an ambassador for the seventy six ers. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.199 All right, we'll take a break. Phone calls, we'll get 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.800 to those up next. Dan Orlovski will join us on 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:43.080 loan from the Mother's Ship. Good day for Dallas yesterday? 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.959 Not sure was it? And does he see anything happening 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.120 with Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson. So we'll talk to Dan. 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I'm not sure if I'm missing another 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:51.280 athlete of the Mount Rushmore of cool Yeah, Seton looks 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:55.440 like Andre Agassi. Nah, I think he tried to be cool? 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.560 Did he try to? Ok? Yeah, yeah, I think he. 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.439 I don't think you and try to be cool. I 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.600 think you're cool, yeah, Muhammad Ali or is that a 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:11.040 different category altogether? Yeah, it feels like he's in his 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.879 own category because I don't think he gave he was cool. 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:20.800 He was colorful and fifty years ago, yesterday was the 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.520 anniversary of the first fight between Ali and Joe Frazier. Yeah, Paul, 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.240 if you go back and look at the golf or 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.720 Arnold Palmer and the pictures in the fifties and sixties, 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.320 he looks like he should be hanging out Frank Sinatra. 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.440 The way he dressed, the shape he was in the tan. 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.480 He looked like a superstar playing golf, and golfers didn't 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.000 really look like superstars. I didn't like golf growing up, 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.200 but I liked Arnold Palmer because he reminded me of 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.520 Sean Connery, James Bond. There was just something about Ernie 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.520 that he'd have, you know, sleeves rolled up and smoking 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.280 heaters and you know, going for the green in two. 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.879 It's just something about him, and he went man golf 0:22:55.960 --> 0:23:01.240 is kind of cool. Borg though Borg might be number 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:05.840 one on that list. He didn't say anything, but he 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.720 didn't have to. It was just when Wembledon would start 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.200 and born Boorg would start growing his beard, and then 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.560 you knew everybody else was in trouble. And then he 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.160 retires at twenty six, which is cool. You never saw 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.200 him stink. You never saw the downside of his career. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.399 He didn't have one. Yeah, Namath was pretty cool too. 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.520 What was going on in New York and he's out 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:38.280 there dating everybody, owning a bar like, he's pretty cool. 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:42.760 On the sidelines, long hair now had a Beatles haircut, 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:47.800 had the fur coat, white shoes when he played. Pretty cool. Yeah, 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.240 mclen we don't have any baseball players on that list. 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.159 Is there a baseball guy like a Mickey Manner or 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.280 Demaggio or I don't know, Demagio might have been cool. 0:23:56.720 --> 0:24:01.040 He's a little older than this group we're talking about. Yeah. Um, 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:06.119 I don't think Mickey Mantle was cool, you know, I 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:12.919 mean he was, he was unique. Reggie, I don't, I 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:19.880 don't maybe maybe yeah, for tell Michael Jordan obviously super cool. 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.200 Derek Jeter, was he too quiet to be considered cool. 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.359