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Speaker 1: Lambo Fields, Sunday, Cold as hell. Yes, yes, I gotta
Speaker 1: figure out what I'm gonna wear. Figureut what I'm gonna wear.
Speaker 1: So it's your goose. Did you one of them big
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Speaker 1: like that, man. I still have my double layer jacket
Speaker 1: that I got in nineteen ninety five. Starter was a
Speaker 1: starter jacket. It was an American Eagle coach that Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: When I first when I first went to Cleveland, and
Speaker 1: I was in the locker room and the producer Lisa
Speaker 1: introduced me to Bill, and Bill says, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: how are I where you from? I said, from Austin
Speaker 1: Texas like that the thickest coach your own. I said, yep,
Speaker 1: you'll be buying a new one, double layer. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what he was talking about, but I ended up
Speaker 1: buying the double lair coat. I still have that coat today,
Speaker 1: end miraculessly it fits as you're doing something good? Right?
Speaker 1: What's so? Yeah? So I will I will be taking
Speaker 1: that too. You don't have one of them, inspect the
Speaker 1: gadget trench coats. I don't like trench coats, not a
Speaker 1: big trench coach person. But my time living up North,
Speaker 1: Man I had so. I tell people now, if you
Speaker 1: moved from the South and you're going up north, you
Speaker 1: need a clothing allowance to buy things that you've never
Speaker 1: heard of. I mean somebody told me, like wool socks
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Speaker 1: stuff that I never had. So um, it is something
Speaker 1: living up there's a whole different culture change, my man.
Speaker 1: So I would see your uncle can tell you his
Speaker 1: whole stories. Hey, I know I went from Dallas in Manhattan,
Speaker 1: Kansas and that was that was a shock that Kansas
Speaker 1: cold is different kind of cold. Trees blocking it out
Speaker 1: of the play. Yeah, man, Missouri. When I was in Missouri,
Speaker 1: I spent a summer in Missouris why is it so
Speaker 1: hot here? I guess hot? But it then in the summertime,
Speaker 1: I mean I went in the wintertime it gets cold.
Speaker 1: Is you know what it was like? What's the purpose
Speaker 1: of literally you want to avoid one or the other? Right,
Speaker 1: that's me? But so um, heck, you have questions for
Speaker 1: Barry Church and I want to give you the floor
Speaker 1: to go ahead and what's happening? Yeah, I mean what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do? What I what I really wanted
Speaker 1: to do, because obviously we got so much going on
Speaker 1: Cowboy Land. There's a lot of going on. It's like, obj,
Speaker 1: we'll get to open We're gonna get to all of that.
Speaker 1: But I really I posed the question this morning on
Speaker 1: the on the text, and I was saying, and can
Speaker 1: you live with this running d Is it something that
Speaker 1: you could deal with? I mean, with all the things
Speaker 1: that the defense does, well, can you live with that?
Speaker 1: But then I got to thinking, and then I thought
Speaker 1: to myself and I said, self, what's happening. I know
Speaker 1: a guy that was on a good defense, the Saxonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Now this Saxonville defense. Dog, y'all ranked up top on everything,
Speaker 1: y'all turnovers, sacks, all of those things. But where was
Speaker 1: the weakness in that defense? I mean, you went all
Speaker 1: the way to the AFC Championship with that defense being
Speaker 1: top tier, and the defense was considered to be special.
Speaker 1: Now this defense is on the cusp right there of
Speaker 1: being called special. Nobody's jumped out the cake to say,
Speaker 1: oh this all this is special especial. They right there right,
Speaker 1: But what was it for you? Like that? You said, look,
Speaker 1: we're good at all of these areas, but this is
Speaker 1: the one chink in the armor. If y'all had if
Speaker 1: we had any man like you said, we were solid
Speaker 1: on all phases. I mean when you talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: run defense, we was up there. Past defense, We was
Speaker 1: definitely up there. Getting after the quarterback. They called us
Speaker 1: Saxonville for a reason, and then taking the ball away.
Speaker 1: So we was up there and pretty much each and
Speaker 1: every one of our categories. I say. The only thing
Speaker 1: that really kind of gave us kind of a little
Speaker 1: bit of trouble, just a little bit of trouble was
Speaker 1: when teams went fast on us. You know, when team
Speaker 1: when teams had that up tempo and that's how Brady
Speaker 1: ended up beating us in an ASC championship. They went
Speaker 1: fast tempo and it didn't really give us an opportunity
Speaker 1: to really set our defense. When we got our defense set,
Speaker 1: it was a problem for anybody out there, any offense
Speaker 1: once we got set. But when you went hurry up
Speaker 1: and had to force us to stick and remain in
Speaker 1: one personnel group or one specific defense, that kind of
Speaker 1: gave us trouble because even though we had, you know,
Speaker 1: players in each level of the defense, not a lot
Speaker 1: of those players were versatile. You know. We had some
Speaker 1: guys that specifically got after the passer, some guys that
Speaker 1: specifically were stopping to run, guys linebackers, the same thing.
Speaker 1: So when you gotta stuck persist in a specific personnel group,
Speaker 1: you can you can do work on us. And that's
Speaker 1: when ended up hurting us in the in the AFC Championship.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to this Cowboys team and you
Speaker 1: talk about can they survive with a rush defense the
Speaker 1: way they have, I'm gonna say they they can do damage,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be tough because you think about the
Speaker 1: three mismatches that they have in the NFC, and those
Speaker 1: are teams that can run the football and specifically do it,
Speaker 1: and that's the forty nine ers. You got um Seattle
Speaker 1: who can run the football as well, and there was
Speaker 1: one more team out there who can run the football
Speaker 1: pretty well that might give this team problem problem. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you make a long run with
Speaker 1: the same type of defense, you gotta get better in
Speaker 1: that against the run. And if you're able to get
Speaker 1: better against the run, the sky's a limit because then
Speaker 1: you're forcing teams to do what's in your wheelhouse, which
Speaker 1: is dropped back and pass, and we all know what
Speaker 1: this defensive line can do to that. But there's three
Speaker 1: matchups that I think the Cowboys will have trouble with.
Speaker 1: But if they can get that run defense in order, man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be something. They're gonna be special. Like you said,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be special. And I just feel like they're
Speaker 1: on the cusp of that special title being thrown on them.
Speaker 1: But I wanted, like for you guys when obviously Belichick
Speaker 1: saw something y'all, y'all displayed that at some point in
Speaker 1: the season where they's, oh, oh there it is right there,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think for our team it has
Speaker 1: been continuous from the beginning of the season from Lennard Fronette.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about him just other I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, playoff Lenny, like he's dropping off
Speaker 1: the map they have, you know, they're taking him out
Speaker 1: of games. But in the first game against us, it
Speaker 1: kind of showed right there, like, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: way that you beat these guys, and they never fixed
Speaker 1: that from last season. And so we're so good in
Speaker 1: all these other areas, but that's the one area that
Speaker 1: you can point to that we're deficient. They've made some changes,
Speaker 1: they bought in some guys that they think they can
Speaker 1: the guy that they believe that can help in that regard.
Speaker 1: They have a linebacker now that they feel like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're upgrading at linebacker. Maybe we can get more stops.
Speaker 1: But I believe this is the game rus Green Bay
Speaker 1: where you have to see these guys round this off
Speaker 1: and stop to run. So this is this is a
Speaker 1: long comparison. Okay, it's probably not fair to do it,
Speaker 1: but I'll just bring it up. The Colts team that
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl for Tony Dungee ended the regular
Speaker 1: season basically one of the worst, if not like twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: twenty eighth or more in run defense. I mean they
Speaker 1: were really really bad. But by the towards you know,
Speaker 1: mid December, Tony fixed. He got people where they needed
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs. They got on the run
Speaker 1: and they got it there. So looking at the numbers
Speaker 1: right now, you just see the Cowboys aren't real good. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's only two other teams with winning records. Um, it's
Speaker 1: it's Seattle and the Giants, who have a worse runded
Speaker 1: than you know in terms of giving a rushing yards
Speaker 1: per game. So you just have to get to the
Speaker 1: point and in some ways hope your offense can help
Speaker 1: your defense, because if the offense can jump out the
Speaker 1: big leads, then other teams you just you know, if
Speaker 1: you're down ten to twelve points against scot you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to throw a football. It's gonna go out to
Speaker 1: ban it run. So I think it's gonna be one
Speaker 1: of those things. Where as as they get rounded. You
Speaker 1: know now that Dak is back and you're gonna get
Speaker 1: to know a brand back and you're you're getting Zeke backed.
Speaker 1: Maybe if your offense can getmproved, get better, you can
Speaker 1: help your defense out, keep them off the field and
Speaker 1: then limit team's ability to run the ball. So I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of one of those things we can
Speaker 1: look at that unit, but it's all got to really
Speaker 1: work together here. Yeah, you're you're not lying because when
Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, this offense getting rounded in
Speaker 1: the shape and you got Zeke backing and Dak's starting
Speaker 1: to get that rapport back with his wide receivers. If
Speaker 1: this team jumps on somebody, and that's the thing that
Speaker 1: you know in the past, this Cowboys team is you know,
Speaker 1: everybody said the one negative is they never get up.
Speaker 1: They never get ready for games. It's always a slow start,
Speaker 1: you know, and then never right there and in for
Speaker 1: the battle. But what Mike McCarthy has been able to
Speaker 1: do these past two years is these team has been
Speaker 1: able to start fast. Especially this season, I feel like
Speaker 1: this offense has been able to jump on teams and
Speaker 1: get them into that situation where they got to pass
Speaker 1: the ball and then you fall right into dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: ends with this pass rush. So I think you're right
Speaker 1: in to you. If this offense can round it off
Speaker 1: a little bit and start putting some pressure on these
Speaker 1: opposing teams to keep up with the score. Then then
Speaker 1: you're working with some with the heck of a formula
Speaker 1: right now, because you're falling right into the mad scientists
Speaker 1: plans of getting after the quarterback. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: help them. Yeah, that's that's really My kind of thing
Speaker 1: is should you be should you be worried? Yes, you
Speaker 1: should be worried, But at the same time, there is
Speaker 1: a way that you can. As Doug Collins was said,
Speaker 1: your job as a coach is to recognize awards in
Speaker 1: your team and cover them up. So it's award, it's award.
Speaker 1: So how do they go about fixing? I think it's
Speaker 1: become a team thing. And maybe this is truly where
Speaker 1: um and he doesn't get the credit if they get
Speaker 1: it correct. This is where Mike McCarthy comes in as
Speaker 1: the head coach. They spent and you heard the press
Speaker 1: conference they spent the bye week where the position coach
Speaker 1: has changed. So Aidan Dirty goes in and talks to
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman Tyler Smith was talking about, so you know,
Speaker 1: you get, hey, here's view of what the other coach
Speaker 1: is seeing about what you're doing here. And Robert Prince
Speaker 1: Malie Cooker of safety for the Cowboys, talking about how
Speaker 1: Robert Prince spoke to him. Um, you know serious. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of the cool thing there of all right, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you what we see over here. And
Speaker 1: I would be worried about especially against Minnesota Dalvin Cook Madison.
Speaker 1: You know those two guys, they can run the football.
Speaker 1: I got weapons on the outside to him. They do,
Speaker 1: they do, so yeah, he could play. He could play.
Speaker 1: So so it's gonna be it's it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 1: That's the one concerned heck that I do have about
Speaker 1: this football team. I think about him right now. That
Speaker 1: along with health. I mean, that's just you're gonna be
Speaker 1: issuing with Jk's coming back here, defensive backfield Hooker's coming
Speaker 1: back from the hamstring. So health can this offense y'all
Speaker 1: think this offense can get to that point where it's
Speaker 1: explosive enough to wear jump on a minute, Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: did you say explosive? Hold on time consistency and proof?
Speaker 1: Time consistency a proof. But we have a formula We've had.
Speaker 1: We have a formula that we were able to get
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush to win with. And everybody started to talk
Speaker 1: about this being the formula that we can use all
Speaker 1: the way through the season, and it's it's it was.
Speaker 1: It was impossible to do that because you're gonna come
Speaker 1: up against some opposition. As you would have said at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, Green Bay's gonna give you
Speaker 1: some trouble. The Vikings maybe would give you some trouble,
Speaker 1: are going to give you some trouble because they have
Speaker 1: an explosive offense as well. And you can't just can
Speaker 1: you could put it the onus on your defense every
Speaker 1: game and say, all right, just hold these guys to
Speaker 1: ten points and we'll do the rest. How realistic is that?
Speaker 1: Come on? Now? I mean BC, That's why I ask
Speaker 1: you that question because obviously there are other teams that's
Speaker 1: looking under the hood of dan Quinn's defense is saying
Speaker 1: where is the chink in the armor? And we've shown
Speaker 1: from the beginning that this running game is a problem,
Speaker 1: and also a running game with a mobile quarterback is
Speaker 1: the problem, all right, and so in our division specifically,
Speaker 1: we oh, yeah, we got one of those, and that's
Speaker 1: a problem. That is a problem and it has to
Speaker 1: be fixed. But when you just like you just said,
Speaker 1: when you start fast, you come out like we did
Speaker 1: versus the Bears, and you could tell it was in
Speaker 1: their mind. We're not gonna have a repeat of what
Speaker 1: happened to us against Denver. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be talking about it. I got the you
Speaker 1: know that whatever it is, the blueprint, the blueprint, that
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be no blueprint today. We're gonna come out,
Speaker 1: We're gonna start a fense. We're gonna put points up.
Speaker 1: And if all y'all have is the run thing, good,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll let y'all have that. But at some point,
Speaker 1: this offense, and that's in pointing to what this offense is,
Speaker 1: this running game, stand balanced with this running game. But
Speaker 1: at some point, even you saw the numbers go up
Speaker 1: with Dak last week, over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to put it on his arm. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to throw you out of some situations. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Cowboy Nation has got to be that way. That's football. Hello,
Speaker 1: that's football, and that's that's okay, that's okay. Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm the dude who predicted nine wins. They've got six
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, and you know you're six and two
Speaker 1: at this point in time, just right now, I would
Speaker 1: say until further notice, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: sit around here and be too alarmed about things. Go
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, handle your business. Get ready for a
Speaker 1: real tough game going up to Minnesota, a team you
Speaker 1: beat last year, which backup quarterback. Try to handle your business.
Speaker 1: That's that's gonna be a tough team. And when you
Speaker 1: start thinking about it right now, that's the set, that's
Speaker 1: the team to look at. Behind Philadelphia, we think about
Speaker 1: it for the Cowboys. Here, you've got two more games
Speaker 1: against the top two teams records wise. Right in this
Speaker 1: in the NFC, you got a Christmas Eve matchup against Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: You get that here at Jerry World, and then you
Speaker 1: got to go to Minnesota for a second year in
Speaker 1: a row. So forget about the Giants. Tool what hey
Speaker 1: six and two something another another man don't respectus qui rebirth.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Washington, worried about Washing. What the commanders
Speaker 1: look to command giants, they do what they're doing. Work. Now,
Speaker 1: you do what you need to do. You'll beat them
Speaker 1: because you've got more talent. Thing. The giants are just
Speaker 1: sitting around here and this is a good, good job
Speaker 1: by Brian Dable. They're gonna play sound as they can
Speaker 1: and see if you're gonna beat yourself, you don't turn
Speaker 1: the football over. Cowboys do what they do, they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes still trying to give it to you every
Speaker 1: chance he can. Man. Oh yeah, sat Quan Barkley had
Speaker 1: a nice game. But you know what, and the cow
Speaker 1: they hung in there with the Cowboys and then you
Speaker 1: saw the Cowboys talent talent one out the Cowboys. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be the last game of the year. Cowboys should
Speaker 1: have something to play for it. I expect that let's
Speaker 1: playoff seating is set. You ain't worried about it? Huh m,
Speaker 1: I'm really, I'm really, I'm not concerned about the Giants. Okay,
Speaker 1: you are the better football team than what. IoT A doubt?
Speaker 1: What I a doubt. In the past, i'd be worried.
Speaker 1: And the man Jason Garrett, I'd be come on, man,
Speaker 1: that there was no reason to bring that man into
Speaker 1: this discussion. Man, remember the Jets game. We remember we
Speaker 1: did that podcast. It was all like, it's the Jets, man,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You can rest, you can rest your tackle.
Speaker 1: It's all good. That matter that that guy got on
Speaker 1: national TV. That's wild. Yeah, I can't believe you to
Speaker 1: turn this into the that's but when you look so,
Speaker 1: when you look at it, there's a better coach in
Speaker 1: the building. Now, that's all it goes. So looking at
Speaker 1: the season, and that's something I think you've been reluctant
Speaker 1: to do is look ahead. Yeah, everybody can get it,
Speaker 1: everybody can get it. But finally you're starting to look
Speaker 1: ahead and see what this road looks like. Even after
Speaker 1: the halfway point. And a guy, the guy that said
Speaker 1: only nine victories has come three? What is one eighty?
Speaker 1: You've come alterned all the way around on this team.
Speaker 1: And so now you're looking at these next nine games,
Speaker 1: and what are you saying, neuis that I between time,
Speaker 1: proof and consistency. I can trust that here. I got
Speaker 1: some trust going on here. I do. I feel I
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Speaker 1: this is a players not trought to you by Tostito's
Speaker 1: Berry Church. He's playing Cowboys. Got heck Harrison here, I
Speaker 1: am newly scrubs. Our guy, Danny mccraie is on assignment.
Speaker 1: So here. The Cowboys six and two tried to make
Speaker 1: a trade for Brandon Cooks. Didn't work out. Um tried
Speaker 1: to make a move for another player and get slipping
Speaker 1: my head Crispy who was the other player. Todd Archer
Speaker 1: wrote about it the other the Cowboys for another receiver.
Speaker 1: UM could not get it done, but so they had
Speaker 1: their eyes to the two guys Cooks and Judy. Right, yes,
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, Jerry Judy, My boy, would I would have
Speaker 1: been I wouldn't be mad at that one. That was
Speaker 1: reported by ESPN affiliate. Yeah, so not by the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: right right, Todd Archer. Tard Archer had that story. Tod
Speaker 1: Archer had that story. So so. Um so those were
Speaker 1: two names that were out there. So there's an acknowledgement
Speaker 1: by management. Okay, we would like to we'd like to
Speaker 1: improve a receiver spot. It didn't happen. So now it's
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior. I don't know if it's been online
Speaker 1: dot com, but anyway, one's these odds makers has Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior's landing spot as the Dallas Cowboys. So that's
Speaker 1: the money Vegas right now. You want to say where
Speaker 1: Elda Beckham Junior goes, it's here. Jerry Jones on his
Speaker 1: radio show today here saying glowing things about him. Mike McCarthy, yes,
Speaker 1: say to press comms. Nice thing to say about it.
Speaker 1: Now you got Michael Parsons on Twitter recruit them, saying,
Speaker 1: come on, let's do that. I don't know the like
Speaker 1: that though. I don't know if you are. You're play
Speaker 1: in that locker room and you got one of your
Speaker 1: leaders out there talking about, hey, oh b J, we
Speaker 1: need you over here, come through. If you were a
Speaker 1: wide receiver in that in that room. That's not that's there.
Speaker 1: Now You're like, hold on, man, Like so what you said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring this guy in? Now, I'm glad. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you said it because I'm just that's just how
Speaker 1: I think, because I'm like, hold on, man, tell me,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing my job. Imagine that. Right you're sitting there.
Speaker 1: Obviously these guys are tuned into their Twitter and they
Speaker 1: see Micah saying, amen, come on, come on with us.
Speaker 1: Man O b J talked to me, let's do this,
Speaker 1: let's do that. Do you want to know what he responded,
Speaker 1: and ted Odell Beckham Junior, l Ol, she you tell me?
Speaker 1: You know all the fam on my daddy side down there.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to win wherell go? That's what he tweeted back. Man, Look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it like this, like if you were
Speaker 1: in that wide receiver. Look all right, y'all watch first
Speaker 1: forty eight in Memphis. That's the best one. If first
Speaker 1: forty eighth Memphis, far Hey, when they brought the Wendy's
Speaker 1: in the room, somebody was snitching that. Lord tell you
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, he gonna tell you who was there?
Speaker 1: And who wasn't there. That's an indictment on the wide
Speaker 1: receiver room. Now, if Michael came out and said CDA man, hey,
Speaker 1: we're rocking with CD. He go as he go, we go, Now,
Speaker 1: that to me is giving confidence to the group. But
Speaker 1: if I'm going out and I'm not saying that Oldell
Speaker 1: Beckham can't help them. We know he's coming back from
Speaker 1: a major injury, we know all these other things. When
Speaker 1: is he gonna be ready? We don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a whole bunch of hurdles that you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go through. But at the same time, like that
Speaker 1: is an indictment on that room. These guys in pregn
Speaker 1: like you can fool everybody else, but the guys is
Speaker 1: out there on the field that's practicing with you, they
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Wait wait, wait, though management already
Speaker 1: trying out here trying to get guys. So is it
Speaker 1: an indictment as they already said the people management though,
Speaker 1: like you talk about your home teammates, that's something you
Speaker 1: keep if you go. If you really want Oldell to
Speaker 1: be here, you text the man. You hit him up
Speaker 1: in his DMS on something private like hey, hey, we
Speaker 1: need your diet. You don't gonna put it all on
Speaker 1: blast like because think about it all right, he said
Speaker 1: he wanted v Miller defense that CD he gonna get
Speaker 1: his bad what's his name on the gallop? He got
Speaker 1: his back. If you know what Brown, you're sitting there like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm having one of my best seasons so far, and
Speaker 1: if you're your guys, you're taking my snaps. The culture changer.
Speaker 1: That's gotta be hard on rooky hard. You see the
Speaker 1: picture they have it odell right here. Wow, there's anybody
Speaker 1: look the picture. Look at the picture they got him.
Speaker 1: Got it up. Now you got your thing up on? Okay,
Speaker 1: right there, now you see right there, see the picture
Speaker 1: see this picture on twitter? Back number three, right, don't
Speaker 1: don't the cowboys having number three? They just giving the jersey.
Speaker 1: They're gonna take av jersey away like that. I just
Speaker 1: to be out of I was never a fan of that.
Speaker 1: That we can't show because he's a free agent. Um
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. Man, get a guy another number,
Speaker 1: give him. You can't get thirteen. We know that. That's
Speaker 1: you know, one of the that's like my I say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know if I'm playing safety back then Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: were not we gotta get Earl Thomas in here, man,
Speaker 1: you know we can make our defense that much. Bro.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting right here like, don't no, at least don't
Speaker 1: put me on blast like that. Jay Letobard over the
Speaker 1: eating this series like, yeah, okay, you aren't worry about
Speaker 1: what you got. Jis right about that to get over
Speaker 1: and get the ball. Man. Come on, man, he just
Speaker 1: finally get activated now he cared about it, feeling he
Speaker 1: was two seconds away from wavering that one. Let's go boys,
Speaker 1: bringing on the jack back from Junior. That's what he
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's not gonna go ahead that that fitted
Speaker 1: Capa's gonna be the hype man for coming out of there.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have that slit the service follow the twenty
Speaker 1: two dollars. He will have the service gear though, he
Speaker 1: will have my boy Christmas Gibson, Yeah cold, what's his
Speaker 1: come take this eighteen? Look go down Beckham Junior, by
Speaker 1: the way, and I thought it was a great point
Speaker 1: that Mickey made on his show Mix Shots make He's
Speaker 1: back the way. He said, look the guys talking about
Speaker 1: I want to go somewhere for you know, four years.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't want a prove it contract. Want to
Speaker 1: get that brand right. He wants a multi year deal.
Speaker 1: They're gonna pay for that. How can that? It's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. How can that? J Jerry's gonna have to
Speaker 1: do the ultimate sales job to just can't. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: we love you, you just want the ring. We feel
Speaker 1: like we're positioned to get another ring. Our best player,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons wants you. Dak Prescott will go find you, Um,
Speaker 1: come down here, help us chase his ring. You already
Speaker 1: got one in La. Get one of Dallas. You know
Speaker 1: what it is, the cowboys name. You do it here.
Speaker 1: You know everybody's gonna love you and Neil Jerry like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna take care of it back. That's
Speaker 1: what Jerry can do. They can sell that, he can
Speaker 1: sell that, but realistically you can't sell You can't pay
Speaker 1: him because you got too many other people to paying,
Speaker 1: way too many and all that pressure that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you heard the interview this morning on one to five three.
Speaker 1: I mean that one and this guy to acquiesce just
Speaker 1: because of those things that you're talking about. You know, well, hey,
Speaker 1: it's Dallas man went to take care of you a
Speaker 1: little hitting, hitting nudge nudge if you, oh, Dell beckham Man,
Speaker 1: you're like, look, I got a Super Bowl rig, you know.
Speaker 1: And for him the four year contract, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Look it's for me, it's gonna be. Is the knee healthy?
Speaker 1: What does he look like coming out of it? Because man,
Speaker 1: you've seen in basketball, man, these guys come in and
Speaker 1: they're like specialty guys, like they're just three point shoes
Speaker 1: is all they do. And at this point, with the
Speaker 1: knee injuries and all that, he's starting to shape up
Speaker 1: and look like one of those specialty guys. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: just listen to what you said. I let him marinate
Speaker 1: for a few seconds. What's wrong with that? If if
Speaker 1: he's out there with Cede Lamb and Michael Gallup and
Speaker 1: you just tell me the specialty guy, is that a
Speaker 1: bad thing? Especially if you've got but if you've got
Speaker 1: Pollard and that is that about three possessive receivers. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got Cede Lamb who can do it. Then you've
Speaker 1: got Michael Gallup, Noah Brown and OJ or not OJ.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be your possession of That's it. That's all
Speaker 1: you got. I mean, I said, he came in at
Speaker 1: the end of the last year. He came into the
Speaker 1: end of the last season after the way that he
Speaker 1: looked for the Browns, and I mean, come on, the quarterback.
Speaker 1: The whole situation was a business, was a mess. But
Speaker 1: he came into the situation with the Rams and he
Speaker 1: helped them. Not as though it wasn't like they didn't
Speaker 1: already have Cooper Cup over there doing his thing having
Speaker 1: a phenomenal season. I think where we are right now
Speaker 1: without wide receiver group, we're trying to find out do
Speaker 1: we even have an alpha where there? Does this smell
Speaker 1: like Dion Sanders a little bit? When Prime had was
Speaker 1: a free agent, went and signed for San Francisco, helped
Speaker 1: them win Super Bowl twenty nine. Specialty next year comes back,
Speaker 1: signs with the Cowboys, it went Super Bowl thirty. Is
Speaker 1: this what we're talking about here? That play though Prime
Speaker 1: was in his prime, that's two als later. As I said, okay,
Speaker 1: but you're not asking him like they said, Prime, we
Speaker 1: need you to come out here man in the corner,
Speaker 1: do younything. You don't have to have a We don't
Speaker 1: need you to be Odell reach. You don't have to
Speaker 1: do that here, you've got some other guys. What you're saying,
Speaker 1: we just add a little bit more in the mix.
Speaker 1: So if I got those three guys and routes, that's
Speaker 1: something to think about it. If you're defense, think about
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm I'm not now I'm also if it's me.
Speaker 1: First off, if it's me, I'm not doing it. Just
Speaker 1: say to me, I'm not doing what what? What did you?
Speaker 1: Wait a minute? What are we doing now? I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it? To tell you right now, I'm a church
Speaker 1: now we're not doing it. You're not doing it. We're
Speaker 1: not doing are Okay? I can't. I don't want to
Speaker 1: pay them. I don't want to pay the money. That's
Speaker 1: the only reason. It's it's the money, not the player, dude.
Speaker 1: The player wants money. Okay. But what I'm saying, okay,
Speaker 1: let me finish. Look, I think we can't. We can't
Speaker 1: separate the two because this he is told. He's right
Speaker 1: here letting you know. I want to be paid. So
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't get to separated. I don't
Speaker 1: get to like when Barry's when the Cowboys came and
Speaker 1: you would say, Barry you come back, and the slow
Speaker 1: price and no, you don't get all that. You got
Speaker 1: to get me the bag, and you get me no bag,
Speaker 1: no me. This man wants back. So if he wants bag,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving it to because I gotta pay a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other people. That's where I'm sitting at here.
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody else out there is gonna give this man
Speaker 1: to kind of deal. But if we did had a bread,
Speaker 1: you would give it to him. If but you don't.
Speaker 1: So is he Is he good enough wide receiver to
Speaker 1: come in here and make a difference in your opinion?
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe. Well, I'll say this, Kelly Moore
Speaker 1: better get up in here and draw something with all
Speaker 1: these three guys if you got him. Otherwise he don't
Speaker 1: need to be here. I just I'm still not seeing
Speaker 1: him being like Odell from the Atlas, even the same
Speaker 1: or even the same La Rams days. I'm not Michael
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup is not Michael Gallup right now, That's what
Speaker 1: I say. You don't have two of them out there.
Speaker 1: You basically trying to get the best you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get seventy percent. Okay, you try to get one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of that seventy So hey, man, I got
Speaker 1: one guy one hundred percent, CD Lamb, I got two
Speaker 1: guys at seventy percent. You know what I mean? How
Speaker 1: do you want it? So? I didn't want it? There? Man,
Speaker 1: see it guy that's really going at it's at seventy percent? Man,
Speaker 1: can I get a hundred percenty and seventy? I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna look around the room and see a guy
Speaker 1: that I'll give y'all seventy percent cutting Louis by Man
Speaker 1: man because because he don't want him, no way, he
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want him, no way. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, man, Oh, I mean Cli Clarics, Hill Star
Speaker 1: Telegram did a good, real job. I'll all say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you're not getting Michael Gallup that you think you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take a year. And so far he's been correct.
Speaker 1: Michael's had some some two moments, but he's not who
Speaker 1: he was. It's gonna take you a minnie. And if
Speaker 1: you get Odell Beckham Junior here, you know you can
Speaker 1: go basically get the same thing with Gallup. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: not getting one hundred percent, but if I have CD
Speaker 1: Lamb and two dudes at seventy percent. If I got
Speaker 1: an A and two sees, can I get out here
Speaker 1: make it a B? Yeah? No, man, that's not You
Speaker 1: can't graduate with that from grasscoot. Did somebody say one
Speaker 1: plus one three, But that's not that's what's the press.
Speaker 1: We didn't gonna be dealing with the lone of the
Speaker 1: reality of that. We got a playoff game, playoff games
Speaker 1: to win. And look, let's how about this. Dak scored
Speaker 1: forty two points. The offense scored forty two points last week,
Speaker 1: two three weeks, two weeks ago, all right, and that's
Speaker 1: what tight end SAIDs Guinea Michael Gallup involved early and
Speaker 1: finding CD in those soft zone areas. And we did
Speaker 1: all that without Noah Brown. That has to say something.
Speaker 1: Even whatever respect you have for the Chicago Bears, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, but but whatever that is, you saw this
Speaker 1: offense get into some type of rhythm and score forty
Speaker 1: points to come on, now, it ain't easy to score
Speaker 1: forty points in the NFL. Doesn't matter. Come on that.
Speaker 1: We can't you throw these away. Detroit just beat beat
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Speaker 1: Okay um. Speaking of ol Beckham Junior possibly hooking up
Speaker 1: with Kelly Moore the offensive coority, what is your trust
Speaker 1: level if you give Kellen Moore a piece like Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior to go with everything that he's dealing with
Speaker 1: right now? As the Cowboys are a six and two
Speaker 1: football team, there are only the other six and two
Speaker 1: football teams right now in the Nation Football League Buffalo,
Speaker 1: Kansas City and the Giants. He got the Minnesota seventy
Speaker 1: one and he got the Eagles at eight. No. Right now, man,
Speaker 1: I am. What I'm starting to recognize is the re
Speaker 1: evolution of the running back position. And I believe that
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, if he's smart, he continues to get behind
Speaker 1: this running game Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott and just
Speaker 1: do everything based off of that. I think the way
Speaker 1: that Dak is playing, showing you that he's willing to play,
Speaker 1: that's that's smart football. We were just we did all
Speaker 1: this talking about the defense, and I think you have
Speaker 1: a defense that if you protect them and don't hang
Speaker 1: them out to dry, and you play smart football on
Speaker 1: offense that they can be your best friend and y'all
Speaker 1: can work in concert together. Yeah, what's the how's the
Speaker 1: process work? Again? What are the three things? Some trust? Trust?
Speaker 1: And trust requires three things, time proof and consistent. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna lie. I think you
Speaker 1: know it's killing has earned that with me. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know this guy, he he's evolved
Speaker 1: his play calling duties. I feel like last year and
Speaker 1: the years before he was playing Madden out there just
Speaker 1: trying to you know, get get as many points as possible,
Speaker 1: you know, make the fans cheer and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: But we've seen this year. You know, without Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: for those five games, he was able to make a
Speaker 1: game plan to where Taylor fit the guys on that offense,
Speaker 1: and he was able to get the most out of him.
Speaker 1: So even if you threw in a you know, a
Speaker 1: wild card like Odell Beckham in there, I think he'll
Speaker 1: still stick to the formula. He'll have a couple of
Speaker 1: wrinkles for Odell here and there, but he won't go
Speaker 1: crazy with it. And I think he's shown to me,
Speaker 1: at least that he's able to trust the process. He
Speaker 1: leans on his strengths, which are the defense in the
Speaker 1: run game, and he'll throw in a few creative wrinkles
Speaker 1: here and there to get the job done. So I
Speaker 1: trust him. I trust him what he'll do. I don't
Speaker 1: want him here, but I trust him. With him Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore at this pace, a lot of seasons ago, at
Speaker 1: this pace, man is working himself into a job as
Speaker 1: a head coach in this league. Come on, now, what
Speaker 1: is going on? You're raiding the cupboards on everybody, Church Church,
Speaker 1: What have you seen? He was a finalist but for
Speaker 1: that Miami job. Okay, so so it's not He's not
Speaker 1: like he hasn't been doing interviews last year, a bunch interviews.
Speaker 1: If you had the number one offense last year like
Speaker 1: they did, and then you go through the issues you
Speaker 1: had this year. Got to go Cooper rush for five games,
Speaker 1: Gotta keep the thing and flow. Here's Tony Polla breaking
Speaker 1: him out here. I mean, and now if you throw
Speaker 1: in Ley's say, you're throwing an Odell Beckham junior, and
Speaker 1: you find a way to mix all these parts in here,
Speaker 1: it's basically it's a lot of difference. It's a different team.
Speaker 1: Back with the whole thumb issue. The way they're hiring
Speaker 1: people today. If Frank Wright can get a job, Brandon
Speaker 1: Stanley can get a job. You want to tell me
Speaker 1: that Kelly Moore doesn't fit the profile of who they're hiring.
Speaker 1: He definitely fits the profile. But let me ask you,
Speaker 1: just like, no disrespect, no disrespect to you know, Kell,
Speaker 1: but can you see him being a leader of men
Speaker 1: like you see him gallivanting the troops getting them ready
Speaker 1: to go out there each and every Sunday? Jack Taylor,
Speaker 1: who was a quarterback coach, didn't call play? Should he
Speaker 1: be it there? No, That's what I'm saying. And it's
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, he's an offensive genie. He can
Speaker 1: get things done offense. But Kenny Gallen that you can
Speaker 1: he leave those guys each every sunday. If if Zach
Speaker 1: Taylor Cincinnati can get a job. So it's again, who
Speaker 1: are the kind of people they're hiring? A man in Miami,
Speaker 1: you know, soul brother? Did he did? He look like
Speaker 1: you know? But he's this man. Here's the thing, here's
Speaker 1: the thing what we're seeing now from McDaniel and that's
Speaker 1: his name, and Miami Maniel hell of of of personality
Speaker 1: like he's able to show that, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't and I don't know him personally, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if Kelly, what his temperament is, what type
Speaker 1: of personality that he has. But that's what it's to me.
Speaker 1: You have to have one of those if you're going
Speaker 1: to be one of the hacker's personality in Denver, he's
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah, well, Dan Campbell's personality. Yeah, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: well but no, no, but he's really just riveting, ain't he? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: But if we don't know that about him, you're asking
Speaker 1: the question about him being the leader of men based
Speaker 1: off of what you know about him right now, and
Speaker 1: that personality that doesn't match what you know is a
Speaker 1: head coach in the National Football What I'm telling you is, guys,
Speaker 1: you're you're saying that, but what do we see Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell vikings koc He fits this mold of who they're
Speaker 1: hiring in this league. To Nikki Sirianniot that his name, Nicky, Tony,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, he is right there with what they're
Speaker 1: hiring in this league. And that's what I'm basing it,
Speaker 1: merely off what I might see parcels the great slider words.
Speaker 1: All I can go by is what I see. And
Speaker 1: if Kellen Moore continues to put this type of offense
Speaker 1: that is winning football games out here, Kellen Moore is
Speaker 1: the kind of person that they are hiring. I can
Speaker 1: see that. I just don't know my time playing with
Speaker 1: him and seeing him now, I'm he just he doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like a cat that's gonna be out there making
Speaker 1: sure this team is ready to go, like when you're
Speaker 1: talking about being over the offensive course, but over the
Speaker 1: entire team. Okay, but's gonna be looking like so, so Nick,
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Coach? So the Eagles coach was
Speaker 1: Frank Reich's offensive coordinated. He didn't call any plays. Nobody
Speaker 1: knew who this guy was. He got the job. Look
Speaker 1: at him now, Tomasirianni, Sirianni, Zach Taylor, he was just
Speaker 1: but's quirks. He's still like his personal Look. But I'm
Speaker 1: going back into you're saying, can you see this guy
Speaker 1: doing it? I'm just telling you you look at these
Speaker 1: dudes that they're hiring, the Zach Taylor's of the world,
Speaker 1: the Brandon Stayleys of the world. Man, he can this
Speaker 1: guy can be presented what he finished. He finished second
Speaker 1: to the coach post. You could be a coach me.
Speaker 1: I mean Jeff sold out Kevin O'Connell n talking about
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know what, man, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I just I know this. This man is there's they're
Speaker 1: going is going to be in the mix for interviews again.
Speaker 1: He will be because like you said, he fits, that
Speaker 1: fits the mold of what they're hiring. Eric being to me,
Speaker 1: I'm praying for you. Yeah, he does not fit the
Speaker 1: mold for you. Yess cold, you just tell me where.
Speaker 1: Tell me where, Liar, No, I'm not looking for one.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that that the mold that you're
Speaker 1: talking about is I'm with Barrier on that does Can
Speaker 1: he lead a team? Will he fit that McCarthy may
Speaker 1: need too? Can he hold cats accountable? Can he go
Speaker 1: out there? But you mess this, I just don't see
Speaker 1: that having in it. I see what I'm saying. You don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: come out, my man. McCarthy might need to, he might
Speaker 1: need two new coordinators. And that's what I'm saying. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody getting about it hating Jimmy Johnson, Man had Jimmy
Speaker 1: I mean this. When you win, you win. People want
Speaker 1: your folks, man, people want your folks. All right, our
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