WEBVTT - Xena Was A Warlord (feat. Macy Rodman) 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.120 I forgot that she was also the sexy fish and 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:09.079 shark Tail. Just wanted to make yes, thank you, thank you, 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.200 that is so true that and thank you for and 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.920 yet and she should say it, and thank you for 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:25.480 saying that. I've never really been a gamer, but Laura 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:32.400 Croft tomb Reader was not like a super important cultural 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.960 figure for me as a youth, but definitely someone I 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:40.239 was aware of and thought was cunt. Someone I was 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.080 aware of and thought was cunt is the title of 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.320 your next memoir? That? Or actually that sounds like a 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.080 Lata tel Ray album. Someone I was aware of it 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.320 thought was maybe, no, that's a that's a song on 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.960 a Lata album. Someone I was aware of parentheses and 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.280 thought um. And someone I've also long been aware of 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.400 and have always hot his count is Macy Rodman, who's 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.720 here today to talk with us all about Laura Croft 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.280 tomb Raider and the woman who embody Audi Audi to 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.479 her Angelina Jolie. And this is we like we can't 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.639 play this down a trenifestation, okay, Like Macy is god 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:24.040 of podcasting and like we in podcast communities adore everything 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.240 that is nympho wars so to like have macye on 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.720 the show. Hello, this is come true. Yes, if you 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:36.080 aren't familiar with Macy, she's an incredible performer, musician and 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.039 co host of nympha Wars, the best and only podcast 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.320 to ever exist, the only podcast that should exist, including 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.920 this one. Um, so we will this is the last 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.480 episode of this podcast. We will be ending it after 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.040 this so that only Nympho Wars continues. But we're so 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.240 happy to have me see with us today to talk 0:01:55.280 --> 0:02:00.600 about all things tomb Raider and Angelina Jolie. Because this 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.000 is like a virgin the show we give yesterday's pop 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:09.480 culture today's takes. I'm dam and I'm fran Toronto. Rose, Rose, 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:15.400 you've know that we have some newses out because do 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:16.919 you want to know what happened to me last night? 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.120 What happened to you last night? And X, who I 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.480 have not spoken to are seen in years, texted me 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:28.280 and said I miss you. Oh oh yeah. It's It's 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:33.040 News's Alpu season for sure, And like it's so funny 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.600 because I got the text and it was like cinematic. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.320 I got the text. And you know, when I have 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.120 like breakups with people that like waste my time, I 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.960 put next to their contact do not text in all caps. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.600 I know, I've looked through your phone. But the thing 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.080 is that you don't follow your own rules frequently text 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.119 people that you write do not text next Okay, frequently, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.960 but not always, because sometimes it does work, and sometimes, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.960 like I have, I have been in the car going 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.679 to change the music on your phone and I'll say, 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:08.800 you have a text from do not parentheses, do not text? 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.520 Why are they texting you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Why are 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.840 you in conversation with them? Yeah? And this is one 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.120 of those scenarios where I was like, I know exactly 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.280 what's happening because we hadn't talked in so long, and 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.120 Rose I dragged him immediately. I said, I like, he 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:24.760 sent me a bunch of things that was like, oh, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.639 I want to visit you in l a blah blah blah. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.440 And I responded, I said, so you've been listening to 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:35.640 the new scissah you And he said he was like, okay, accurate, drag. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.080 You got his ass. But that's the thing is, like 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.320 SAYSSA really does make music for like people that are 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.320 experiencing breakups and like girls with intrusive thoughts like that 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.960 is the boss. Yes, I'm definitely more in the second camp. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.440 I will say I have been loving the album since 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.080 I listened to it. It's not necessarily making me feel anything, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.160 but I think that's just because I'm like dead inside. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.040 But I am vibing to it immensely and haven't been 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.920 able to listen to anything else all weekend. Yeah. I 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.520 also like can't turn it off, like I am addicted. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.000 I love love. It's like everything that I wanted out 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.440 of her, honestly, and you know, like they're and some 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.080 things that I wasn't expecting to get from her, like 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.320 the whole like pop punk vibe of it, the the 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.320 F to F of it all, which is is that 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:33.200 female to female? No, maybe it sounds like a fiction 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.280 F T F trans Um. I used to tell my 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.320 friend who did steroids that he was an M to 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.640 M trans man. Don't cancel me, Um, that's not not 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.440 not true. It's not not true. Um. Yeah, I I 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.400 really wasn't expecting that on the album. I guess I 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.160 didn't really know what to expect, So I'm just happily 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.320 receiving this album. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. But what I 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.480 meant to like, what I was trying to say, it's 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.839 just like that I'm grateful, honestly that she doesn't release 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.680 music that often, Like there's a preciousness now to the 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:11.120 work of Acissa album that I can cherish. That is, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.400 I think something that's really great about anticipating someone for me, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.760 someone like Sissa, And you know, I'm less likely to 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.719 pick it apart or get mad about certain things because 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.440 I'm just grateful to have Sissa um as opposed to 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.159 like another artist that releases, you know, an album every 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.599 other year or whatever. Yeah, I mean it is. It 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:37.560 is interesting that both Sissa and Lana released new music 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.520 in the same week. Um Lana released her the first 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.479 single of her new album, did you Know There's a 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:48.120 Tunnel Under Ocean Boulevard, which I love. And these are 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.320 two artists who I would say have like somewhat similar sensibilities, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.560 like not necessarily make the same kind of music, but 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:01.640 make thematically similar like sad girl music but are yeah 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.880 but are but are almost girls with intrusive thoughts and 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:09.400 fat asses. But they are almost diametrically opposed in the 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.599 way that they release music. Because a Lana is super prolific. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:18.080 You know, she releases an album every two years, if 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.719 not more, and has since the start of her career, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.039 and there is a real sense that like she is 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:31.880 constantly making art and wanting to immediately put it out 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.719 and like has that relationship with her fan base. And 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.839 I don't know if it's because she feels pressured to 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.880 or if that's just she just is producing on that 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.120 level where she wants to be constantly sharing it, whereas 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.039 someone like Scissa seems to really want to be like 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.760 perfecting it and only putting on something when it's like 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.599 really is completed and cohesive. Um. And I mean also 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.599 we don't know what the whole like business side of 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.000 it is behind the scenes, but like obviously there has 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.480 been this long running joke about how we're always waiting 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.080 on this as an album. She had said something last 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.080 week about how a bunch of people who she wanted 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.040 to feature on the album didn't turn in their verses 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.720 on time, and I saw someone tweet like they probably 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.760 thought they had a lot longer before they needed to 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.720 way we could features. I'm sure, but I'm glad to 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.960 read it. I'm glad we got the ones that we 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.480 did because the Phoebe song is so good, so fucking cool. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.840 I I loved it. Wait, I don't want to lose 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.720 the thread. But I have to ask you, does Lana 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.080 have a fat ass or does she just make music 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.120 for girls with asses. I think she makes music for 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.400 both girls with fat asses and girls with flat asses. Yeah, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.280 that's what I was saying. I was thinking more flat, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.680 but you know, I could see girls with flat asses 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.560 who want to have fat asses on the Phoebe song. Okay, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.160 I already told you I'm not going to tell the 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.360 versions because it was too sacred of an experience. But 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.640 I had like an out of body, like near spiritual 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.880 experience with this song, driving in my car with something 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:02.760 that happened to me. Um, I was shook by how 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.920 when Phoebe's verse drops, it's almost like a new It 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.160 sounds like just it drops in like a Phoebe song, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.920 Like it's so crystallinely clearly just Phoebe. And I was 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.760 shocked by that, honestly, that it wasn't like run through 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.280 the mill of like sciss is kind of like layered 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:26.440 you know, landscaping production. Um, until there's like a little 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.840 voice distortion at the end. But I loved it. I 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:33.760 mean it was really unexpected. Yeah, Drobbes verse, Phoebe's verse 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.920 does sounds like it could be right off Punisher. Yeah, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.520 and that's what I like that when an artist brings 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:47.440 another artist on and lets them do what they do. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.520 You know. I actually felt a lot like that when 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.199 Um Midnights came out and Lana was on Snow on 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.120 the Beach, Like, I think she was perfectly utilized in 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.080 a way that is very true to who Laana is 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.320 as an artist. And yeah, I do. I do think 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:10.560 Sissa used or or collaborated with Phoebe in the same way. Um. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.920 You know, some my favorite songs um are obviously the 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.400 Phoebe song r F to F. I also really like 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:20.240 Gone Girl, Um not just for the you know, amazing 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.120 amy of it all, So I think it's it's just 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:27.520 like a really fun, pretty song. What are some of 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.559 your faves so far? I mean, I do love the 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:35.760 Phoebe song. I love love language, Scissa sampling herself like 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.200 it was so good, And then like the orchestra after 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.880 she samples herself in that song, it's like, so, I 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.800 just like I appreciate, you know, much like the way 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.120 she used Phoebe. Scissa like sees like features and sees 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.200 so many different she takes inspiration from so many different 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.120 genres and like the way she creates this kind of 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.679 tapestry of music. I think it's like over and over again, 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.720 so captivating and so a genre right, Like she fus 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.880 with like multiple genres within her own and it's almost 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.800 as if she used Phoebe as like not used that's 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.840 like I don't want it to be like, you know, pejorative, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.840 but it's almost like Phoebe was like an instrument, like 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.280 a beautiful instrument to lay within the canvas of her work. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.920 And I found that over and over again with stuff 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.079 like um with Gone Girl. Definitely, I think F to 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.600 F is like another moment where I was just like damn, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:35.240 like you really can explore all genres and uh and 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.080 or I'm actually forgiveless where she like did the Vespertine 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.840 like the York sample, taking the little choir from the background. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.680 I was like, damn, this is like so good and 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.800 I love just thinking about Scissla listening to York. That's 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.120 what I'm saying, Like you know that their work is 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.360 in conversation, like regardless of like how far away you 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.600 might see, they're like respective like art forms, Like their 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.320 work is in conversation and you can I don't know. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.400 I just appreciate Sissa on the production level. UM, and 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.040 I have also been like day one, siss A stand 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.559 like sweet November sis A stand for sure. Wait, I 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.520 don't want to, you know, non consensually. Uh uh make 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.240 you listen to any White Lotus discourse? But like can 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.040 I I I exist on the internet. You know I 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.959 haven't watched this season. I'm not going to. I just 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.760 I just don't care. Um. But because I haven't watched 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.599 the season, I would love to get, like your t 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.920 L d R what you thought of it as a whole, 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.959 since I'm not going to watch it, and then I 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:44.200 truly never want to hear about it again until you 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.440 know the next season inevitably comes out. By the way, 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.679 spoilers for this season of The White Lotus if you 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.200 haven't watched and want to or um, haven't watched the 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.679 finale yet. Something that I think was super fascinating and 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.319 like a joy to watch that I like, honestly, it's 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.880 a conversation I'm not saying anywhere else. Is like the 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.720 function of like sex work in this season, Like have 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.200 you been hearing at all about like the kind of 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:13.120 two sex worker characters in the show I have the 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:18.920 phrase white Lotus muted on Twitter for the reason. Okay, 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.800 so I mean there are two central characters also have 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.719 ava max muted. Oh. I would that would maybe be 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.760 fun one day for us to go through and share 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:32.840 some of our muted I have ava max muted on Spotify. Unfortunately, UM, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.840 I don't know what my muted Twitter words are. I'd 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:40.440 have to check. Um probably elon um. Okay, so white Lotus, Um. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.120 There are these two sex workers that are kind of 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.000 central characters integral to the plot. In fact, they're actually 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.040 like the driving force behind a lot of pin plot 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.959 points throughout the show. And I would say there are 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.480 I think four sex workers total that come in and 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.240 out of the series and function some way within the 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:03.200 plot and Rose so many different sex workers are hired 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.040 or engaged with, like on a professional level, like for 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.960 their profession, and each character who hires a sex worker 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.240 does it for like a completely different reason, a completely 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.839 different motive, a completely different world. And some of these 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.160 characters are people that you would never either wouldn't expect 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.320 to use, use, or engage with sex work or hated 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.800 sex workers at the beginning of the series, and so 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.880 like I just like honestly thought that was like interesting 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.920 to see how sex workers like move lives, like move 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.120 characters and move plat points, and they were kind of 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.319 the fan favorite characters like I'm sure you've seen you're 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.240 seeing like pictures of them with a little like Bob 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:46.679 or whatever, the girl with the I have kind of 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.199 trained my brain to immediately identify white later screenshots and 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:56.240 just scrawl past. Speaking of sex work, Um, I saw 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.800 the menu this weekend and really liked it, and I 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.400 you have you haven't seen it yet, right, No? I have, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.400 So I won't spoil anything for you because you do 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.200 want to see it, Yes, I do, Okay, So I 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.440 want you to go into it without spoilers, obviously, but 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.320 I want to put a pin in this and come 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.400 back and talk about what you think about the way 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.440 sex work is depicted in the menu because it is 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.360 um but but generally, I really liked the movie and 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:28.680 had a lot of fun watching it and thought it 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:33.400 was super funny and like at least somewhat incisive. So we'll, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.400 you know, we'll catch up on that when when you've 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.040 seen it. Look, I'm here for Anna Taylor Joy and 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:42.440 Nicholas Holt and Judith lte Judith like kind of criminally 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.600 under used in the film, which is which is very unensembly, 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.600 but she could have had She was kind of one 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.000 note through the entire movie and could have had much 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.480 more to do. But I still enjoyed it, and I 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.560 also enjoyed um. I saw it at Lincoln Center at 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.840 the Lincoln Center AMC with my other It was the 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.480 first time I had been to an AMC since I 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.080 saw Tar and I was just so happy to see 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.680 Nicole again. I missed her. I was the only one 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.440 who applauded at the end of her of her monologue, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:18.560 Listen Virgins, Rose Phoebe and I have created a survey, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.760 a listener survey just for you, and we are not 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.080 harvesting your data. This is literally just so you can, 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.000 you know, shape the show and make it even more 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.720 fun than it already is. And we have loved the 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.280 responses we've got so far. Rose has peeked in you 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.360 peeked in the responses? Yes, yes, I I read through 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.960 most of them. Uh that at the end of the 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.520 first day the survey was out and I was very 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:45.080 honestly no homo touched by how many people responded to 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:51.160 the survey, how really thoughtful your responses were and how 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:55.080 much you love the show? Um, it's so really keep 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.960 them coming. Some of y'all love the show almost too much. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.640 I was kind of like, Okay, where's the negative feedback? Like, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.600 come on, no, I don't say that I don't know. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.200 Please don't send us negative feedback. But we do want ideas, 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.400 and we love the ideas that we've been seeing so far. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.080 So click the link in the show notes to you know, 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.600 fill out like a three minute survey and uh, you 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.920 might win a virgin hat and who doesn't want a 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.119 virgin hat? But more important, you are part of a collective. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.800 You are participating in an incredible community. That is, you're 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:33.640 you're rocking the Vote Yes, vote now, as RuPaul says, 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.080 as RuPaul makes drag Queens say at the end of 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:40.640 every episode of Drag Race, vote to to to to 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:45.760 the moon, the moon, to the moon, Turn the mound 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.360 may mean Macy, are you? I feel like I do 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.760 know this about you? But are you a big gamer? Um? 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.960 So I go through phases um where I am inspired 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.679 to game, and then I will take it. I'll like 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.280 really like binge out on it, and then I'll take 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.960 a break for a while, but um yeah, I go 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.080 through I go through seasons of gaming. Okay, do you 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.520 have a particular like style of game that you like. 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.840 Not that I'm like super literate on them, but I 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.760 feel like they're like they're sort of like the tried 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.879 and true, you know, models of game I love. I 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.919 love you trying to like parse your way through like 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.080 video game any language. It's actually incredible because Rose like 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.280 doesn't know I wasn't really I'm not. I'm not a gamer, 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.480 but like I know, like the my my main experience 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.399 with video games is like this one Wizard of Oz 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.560 Nintendo game that I used to play when I was little, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:18:01.200 and then um like creating uh slurs in some kind 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.080 of wrestling game. Of course they were always always women, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.240 and like as soon as the actual game had to start, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.840 I lost interest. I was only so, were you ever 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.880 into sims because that's a big I was. But like, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.600 I mean, this is so kind of cliche or becaues 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.320 It's not. Maybe I'm just like a twisted person, but 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.520 all I would do is use the hack you like, 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.080 rosebud Um, like build the house and then kill the 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.680 sims as soon as yeah yeah, and then like sometimes 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.840 you could add in nudity, so it's like rich nude 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.719 death like didn't I didn't know about that, but okay, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:44.760 So so what I like is either a third person 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.199 action game which is your classic like tomb Writer or 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.000 g t A where you see the person running, because 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.440 I too love like a create I create a sim 0:18:55.560 --> 0:19:00.040 type vibe where you're putting a character together and you 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:05.000 to see it. Um. I don't do first person shooters. UM. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.640 I like an open world, but that's not necessarily um required. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.760 But yeah, I leve a level creator or if they 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:18.919 have provided a County Little Um main character, that's great too. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.680 And two is not the ultimate County main character, but 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:34.040 Ms Laura herself exactly the original original since so oh 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.520 that was gonna be. My question is how long tomb 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.840 Rat has been around, because it feels like she's been 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.080 with us forever, and in a way, she kind of has. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.520 Did you start Did you start playing tomb Rat when 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.560 it first came out? Yes, well no, I think I 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:56.040 started at tomb ratar to, which came out in nineties seven. Um, 0:19:56.080 --> 0:20:02.320 and my mom was a babysitter and so we would 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.000 when she put the kids down for a nap, we 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.800 would like play tomb Rater and that was like my 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.720 intro to tomb Rater. And we played all the PS 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.480 one games into the PS two games and that was like, 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.760 that was how I came to tom Rater. Did you 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.560 get to dress Laura Croft up? Or? Was she was 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.960 her outfit kind of fixed because she has such a 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:28.600 defined look. M it was. It was fixed from I 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.919 think one too, tom Rat one, tom Rat three. It 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.199 was pretty much all of that one outfit except there 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.240 were there was like a wetsuit. There was like a 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:43.639 cold version with like a bomber jacket and then hard 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:51.320 through not box exactly exactly, no matter what huge tits 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:56.160 ass out legs out like the whole bit for all 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.639 that like Spellun games, she was doing literally everywhere that 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.800 she she was she was totally impractical. Um and then 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:05.520 there was like yeah, they got like a she got 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.080 like a matrix suit at one point, probably after the 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.480 matrix came out, like they were just like throw that 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.639 in there. And then now the most recent game she's 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:19.720 like ari I like very practical and really sucks. Not 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:24.200 not ari I. It is it's giving ls. Yes, it's 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:28.240 they've like it's giving Paragon Sports it's giving, like it's 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.240 giving all of that. It's like really a bummer. So 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.679 is his lacross thing, Like is she a superhero or 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.960 is she just like extremely rich like Batman? She's Batman. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.880 She's Batman. Okay, So she just has like lots of 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:50.000 training and tech and she is an adventurer. Yes, her 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:55.080 backstory is that she's a Pulitzer Prise winning photo journalist. No, 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:59.960 you're kidding me. No, I'm not joking. And her fun 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:08.080 other Instagram. It's huge on Instagram. Yeah, she's done so many, 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:13.000 not geo covers in the game. She actually invented Instagram. Now, 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.719 her father's name is like Rupert Cross. I forget her 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.280 dad's name, but he was like an Indiana Jones type 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.080 like before she was born. And so a lot of 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.680 the games are like like Batman is like my dead 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:32.720 daddy who died on the in the field. I'm continuing 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:37.520 his legacy and taking all these photos like sometimes like 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:42.199 restoring artifacts, sometimes like taking an artifact. It's like that 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:43.760 it's all this stuff that has to do with her 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:47.640 personal lore and like the like things that she learned 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:51.840 from her father, and like, yeah, it's it's very Batman. Yeah, 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:56.119 is she um respectful of the cultures that she's um 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:01.920 the tombs she's rating. I mean, I might be biased, 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:09.879 but I think my overall memory is yes. Because the 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.800 in the original like plans for the game, she was 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.400 supposed to be like a hired gun who was like 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.360 stealing things for these mega rich people. But in the 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.320 one that actually came out, she's like a lone operator 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.920 or she's like often restoring things or like correcting things 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.199 or stopping people from stealing artifacts that would change the 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:34.560 course of history. Um, but she does have like a 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:38.520 ship ton of artifacts like at her house. Yeah, I 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.840 feel I feel like I feel like it's there's a 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.520 fine there's a fine line there. She's maybe she's maybe 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.800 giving like um Xena Warrior Princess a little in which 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:48.679 like Zena's whole thing was, you know, she was like 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:53.399 making up for being having been a warlord. So Laura 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.640 Croft has some she's done some questionable things, and now 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.840 she's got a little bit of a she's got a karma. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.920 Is my boyfriend. She's like, I'm restoring all these stolen 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:11.800 artifacts that were stolen by me. Yeah, it's me, Hi, 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.840 I am the problem. It's me. I did not know 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:19.760 that Zena was a warlord. That's actually crazy, but honestly, 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:28.880 it's called Zena Warlord, warhawk. Imperialist princess um Xena climate 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:35.280 change denier turned to activist princess, yeah, like a little 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:41.200 and is Greta is Greta Tunberg. But I don't, Mazie, 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.040 I don't think you're being biased. I'm just I'm willing 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.399