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Speaker 1: OJO Terry McLaurin and ask the commanders to trade him.

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Speaker 1: McLaurin turns thirty in September with Lauren in the final year.

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Speaker 1: He's in the final year OJO final season of a

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Speaker 1: three year deal, set to make fifteen point two million

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Speaker 1: base salary, and it's currently the seventeenth highest paid wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in terms of average annual salary.

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Speaker 2: Ojo, Get my dog out of there, man, Get me

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Speaker 2: a dog out of there.

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Speaker 1: Man, where you trading him to?

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Speaker 2: They want to play Tennessee. Let him go over there

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Speaker 2: to Tennessee with Cam real quick, so Cam could do

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Speaker 2: exactly what CJ. Stroud did. So Cam been doing exactly

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Speaker 2: what Jaydon and Daniels did over there with the commanders,

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Speaker 2: you know, giving them weapons. Let's put them weapons around him.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got Calvin Ridley, we got Tam McLaurin,

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Speaker 2: and wait, hope, we got Tyler Locket over there too.

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Speaker 2: Right now. I'm not mistaken ty to lock it in

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Speaker 2: the slot. Come on, man, we got they still got Paula, right,

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Speaker 2: Paula still a running back?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on man, talk about Tennessee. Tennessee the dark

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Speaker 2: the dark Horse team to make it the playoffs. Terry

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Speaker 2: Mlawano that since they want to play games, Goddamn jayde

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Speaker 2: Daiels doesn't have the rocks in his back pocket to

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Speaker 2: be able to go up the management right now and

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Speaker 2: say listen, I need my target. I don't think you

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Speaker 2: understand a huge part of my success was actually having

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Speaker 2: number seventeen as the target. Look at some of the

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Speaker 2: plates they made for us last year. Why is it

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Speaker 2: even a no brainer? I don't care about it being thirty.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about it being thirty. Where else are

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Speaker 2: we going to get the production from where? No disrespect

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Speaker 2: to d Deebo Samuels, nice, very nice at what he does,

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Speaker 2: very nice at what he does. He's a Swiss army knife.

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Speaker 2: You can come out the back in the slot you

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Speaker 2: put in with the ball in his hands. The gickets phenomenal,

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Speaker 2: one of the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you going to a game and you're playing the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: They're game planning and setting the defensive formation where Terry

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Speaker 2: McLaurin lines up. What are we talking about.

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Speaker 1: If what Adam, if what Adam Schefter is reporting is

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Speaker 1: to be true, he wants way north of thirty three million.

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Speaker 1: They're not going there. O Joe they're not you know that.

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Speaker 1: I know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean not not.

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Speaker 1: If what Adam s like I said, Adam Shefter tweeted

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Speaker 1: that ask can you find that quote and put it

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Speaker 1: up on the thing to make sure they'll fig the

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Speaker 1: real Adam Schefter And we're not getting a catfish. But

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Speaker 1: if what Adam Schrefter reported is that he wants north, wait,

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Speaker 1: I think the work bourbage and the terms he used

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Speaker 1: was way north of thirty three million.

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Speaker 2: Well listen, I want way north of thirty three million.

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Speaker 2: Stay with me now, Okay, commanders say, we not gonna

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Speaker 2: give you north of thirty three million. So okay, let's negotiate.

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Speaker 2: Let's find a happy medium that's not disrespectful to me

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Speaker 2: and what I've done for this franchise, because the number

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Speaker 2: speaks for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but pay for what you yourself. Oh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: pay for what you've done. I already paid you for that.

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Speaker 1: I gotta pay you what I'll believe a you're going

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 2: Now what he's gonna get? See he's thirty, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: thirty he can. He can. He can very well. Because

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Speaker 2: of the quarterback play and the quarterbacks you have, He's

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Speaker 2: going to be consistent. That's a no brainer. He's not

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Speaker 2: losing a step now.

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Speaker 1: I just don't I just don't know if that number

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Speaker 1: is that number that north.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Northern thirty or Northern thirty three, maybe won thirty

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Speaker 2: three and.

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Speaker 1: A half, because think about what you do. Realize who's

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Speaker 1: at thirty thirty four and thirty five CD and jetta. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: way North means he's thirty six thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Give me dog thirty two and a half. Give Terry

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Speaker 2: mcclaurin thirty two and a half.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was thinking more along the lines

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Speaker 1: of a wattle somewhere somewhere between somewhere between twenty eight

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Speaker 1: and a half. Hell no, hell no, Oh Joe, I'm

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Speaker 1: just oh Joe, Oh Joe, I've just got I gotta

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Speaker 2: Okay, himme a doll thirty two and a half. Talk

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Speaker 2: to me now, talk to me nice. Huh. We talked

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Speaker 2: about scary Arry. We ain't talk about just knowing anybody now, huh.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the one who would to see on

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Speaker 2: the chat. We talking about the captain, the one who

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Speaker 2: does everything the right way, He says all the right things.

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Speaker 2: He's the leader of the team. He's the leader of

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Speaker 2: the offense. His teammates game to see for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to pay him for the exactly that

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Speaker 2: you're asking to be. And now it's a problem. That's

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Speaker 2: what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. That's what it seems like they're doing.

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Speaker 2: And I meanild please.

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Speaker 1: I think, come on, man, I think thirty is probably

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Speaker 1: what I think the thirtieth is their their drop dead number,

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Speaker 1: because that's where that's where Tyreek is a pull up

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Speaker 1: the top tens pull up the other receivers. Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: said he thinks Terry McLaurin wants considerably more than DK got,

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Speaker 1: which was thirty three million per year, So considerably, boy

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Speaker 1: is gonna be thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Damn listen, sometime you gotta you got, you gotta shoot high.

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Speaker 2: You gotta shoot high and fast away. You know, find

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Speaker 2: a happy median.

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Speaker 1: For the stars. If you're laying on the moon, you're

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Speaker 1: still pretty damn high.

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Speaker 2: You'll you'll be happy. I don't like the fact that

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Speaker 2: the players are missing training camp. I don't like it

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Speaker 2: because you got you get. You need that time to

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Speaker 2: speed of the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, okay, Oh, Joe, here we are right here.

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Speaker 1: Jamar chases at forty forty zero point two five Jetta

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Speaker 1: thirty five, CD thirty four, DK thirty three, Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 1: thirty two, A J thirty two. I'm and Ron Saint

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Speaker 1: twenty eight seven fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty two and a half. I'm gonna say that again,

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Speaker 2: thirty two and a half. Anything anything below that is disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: Put the numbers up, pulling, pulling numbers up.

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Speaker 1: See you got them on your end? Did you see them?

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Speaker 1: Can you see them?

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Speaker 2: No? The numbers?

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Speaker 2: Okay, no, But but listen, listen, listen. Anything below that

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Speaker 2: is disrespectful. Pull the numbers up. See. I need to

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Speaker 2: be I need to be some of these I need

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Speaker 2: to be assistant to some of these agents when the

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Speaker 2: time for these receivers get paid. Because not only am

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Speaker 2: gonna pulling numbers up, not only I'm gonna pull the

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Speaker 2: numbers in the market where everybody getting paid, I'm also

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Speaker 2: walking there with the goddamn film. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 2: y'all been watching, so.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two and a half will put him up Gary Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Phil Times paid best receivers.

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Speaker 2: You see see, Okay, it's not it's not outrageous, it's

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Speaker 2: not too low. It's right in the middle, and it's

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Speaker 2: not disrespectful. But he will he will what were talking about?

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Speaker 1: He won't considerably more than thirty three?

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Speaker 2: All right? See boom, he was shooting for the stars.

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Speaker 2: If I fall low, I want to fall to the

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Speaker 2: thirty two and a half.

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Speaker 1: I think you gonna fall at thirty.

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Speaker 2: No, no, see, I need to be in the rooms. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I need to. I need to be in the rules

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Speaker 2: when it's time for receivers to negotiate. I think the

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Speaker 2: owners and whoever does the numbers in the books, they

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Speaker 2: forgetting what you did?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, coming in.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming in there with the film. I'm coming there

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Speaker 2: with the film. Forget what you talk about. Let me

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Speaker 2: show you why my client deserves we'll be asking for.

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Speaker 2: Let me show you why. Play by play, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have all this catches and touchdown. I'm broken down thirty

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Speaker 2: two and a half. Let me show you what thirty

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Speaker 2: two and a half down in distance, different scenarios, remember, right,

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Speaker 2: come on man, stop playing man what Okay, I'm the

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Speaker 2: right listen, I'm the right one to have when it

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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with Joe, Joe. I don't think

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Speaker 1: thirty two and a half is outrageous, but I think

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna fall somewhere. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be you know, And I said be cause remember Waddle

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Speaker 1: and remember I said I went twenty eight and a half,

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Speaker 1: that twenty eight and a half. So I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna follow that twenty eight to a half to thirty two.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be the range. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be too happy with that, because what happens

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Speaker 1: is is that you don't want to be You don't

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Speaker 1: want to come behind a guy, O Joe. When the

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Speaker 1: guy got thirty two and a half, and then you

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Speaker 1: come behind him, you get thirty one or you get

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Speaker 1: thirty because now you stunted the growth of the wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Now I get it. You look at Gary Willson. Gary

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Speaker 1: will say, hey, thirty two to five, considering where I was,

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. Right and right now, I can't

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Speaker 1: match the production of CD Jetta and Chase. So I

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Speaker 1: can't go up there Wan and say, hey, y'all need

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Speaker 1: y'all need to break me off like that because Jeda

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Speaker 1: is on some historic ish. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's case

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Speaker 2: There's levels to every year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so that's what. And so when you look at

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Speaker 1: it like that, But I get with Terry McLaurin says,

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Speaker 1: oh no, no, bro, Look, hey y'all need to break

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Speaker 2: Come on thirty two and a half. That's it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, thirty two and a half is it a half?

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Speaker 2: If they don't pay him thirty two and a half,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go off on management. I don't know where,

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Speaker 2: but they gonna hear me. They gonna they gonna hear me.

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Speaker 1: Bill's running back James Cook did not practice today. Cook

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Speaker 1: and seeking a contract extension, but was present at mandatory

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Speaker 1: mini camp reported the training camp and had participated thus

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Speaker 1: part kept it. Sure would asked why he sat out,

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Speaker 1: business said, would ask if you will practice Monday? Well,

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Speaker 1: James Cook being full pads for Buffalo Bill's Week one

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Speaker 1: it's true. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta provide context

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Speaker 1: for everything now, O Joe is that he will ask

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Speaker 1: for a deal similar to what the Eagles gave Saquan James,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get that, bro, how much

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be honest with you, I think I think

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Speaker 1: you're a family, a fabulous young running back, but you're

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Speaker 1: not finish. You're not finna get something comparable to uh

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Speaker 1: uh sat Quan. I don't even I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get something comparable, uh to to Max c Max.

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Speaker 1: I don't think of anything comparable with to d Henry?

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Speaker 1: What what? What is Derrick Henry make ash sixteen?

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Speaker 2: That's that's tough.

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Speaker 1: They just oh Joe, we gotta think about Oh Joe.

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Speaker 1: They just started paying running back to last two years.

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Speaker 2: Is tough. It's tough. And listen, they started paying the

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Speaker 2: running backs the last two years and they play and

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Speaker 2: the Tier one running backs right, yes, I see James

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Speaker 2: Cook as as as two tier two right below right,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna put Josh Jacobs. You like him next?

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Speaker 1: Oh kyen wa, Yeah, yeah, excuse me. Joe Mixon had

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Speaker 1: a nice year. Oh who I mean twenty another twenty million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's tough. That's tough.

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Speaker 1: I love Dereck. Henry just had nineteen hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: Joe look really?

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Speaker 2: Brother cook? Hold of hold of Jim Cook now one

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Speaker 1: Though, Man, he can't be more than he can't be

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Speaker 2: See. Oh, so listen, if he's not more than twenty five, right,

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Speaker 2: in that specific offense, you can still like, I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think people, let's let's not be fool.

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Speaker 1: He'll be twenty six on, he'll be twenty six in September.

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Speaker 2: Till he's give that thirteen, man, stop playing give him

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Speaker 2: at thirteen. He's young. That many running back that can

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Speaker 2: Damn, man, I want my dog to get paid to man.

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Speaker 2: That's home team, Man, home team. Damn.

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing is, we got to be realistic.

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Speaker 2: Hey, they're paying the special ones. Though I know paying

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Speaker 2: based on what he does. Like he ain't no muther,

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Speaker 2: he ain't no slouch, no important part of that offense.

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Speaker 2: He makes that offense go. Now we know we know

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, we know what Josh Allen is. Yeah, boy,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen over is over there with no superstars, no

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Speaker 2: true number one running backs. But I mean wide receiver severs.

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Speaker 2: But you do have another weapon. And god damn James Cook,

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Speaker 2: huh you got you got a shaki, nice solid just

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Speaker 2: got paid in the off season. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: up and coming young bull.

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Speaker 1: Don't they got the care from San Diego? Then they

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Speaker 2: Oh san Diego the chargers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was saying, la charges. Yeah, didn't they sign Palmer?

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Speaker 2: Josh Palmer is over there is Josh Josh Palmer, right,

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Speaker 2: I think that's who it is. I think his first

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Speaker 2: that's a tough one. Listen. Honestly, I wouldn't want I

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Speaker 1: Joshua Palm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a GM when

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Speaker 2: it comes to like fringe fringe situations like this, we

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Speaker 2: where it comes to no brainers. Oh that's easy.

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Speaker 1: to make tough decisions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like the tough decisions like this.

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Speaker 1: Because you can't keep everybody. You got to decide, okay,

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Speaker 1: They're like, what the hell were you thinking about you

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Speaker 1: what are you thinking about you let Saquon go? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But this is the thing you have to think about it.

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Speaker 2: The timing and the places where these individuals win was

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Speaker 2: very important, Yes, very important. Left a disgruntled, a not

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Speaker 1: Cause the hearing hear Darren here, we gonna be Darren

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we wish you to I.

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Speaker 2: Cook, get your baby, do what you gotta give it.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen fourteen fifteen, maybe in that range, but that nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Twenty thirteen, five, thirteen thirteen five, he only twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Hey Josh Allen, Josh Allen, man, you you need to interfere. Intervene, intervene,

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Speaker 2: please intervene. Listen, you know how much power, Josh Gott

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Speaker 2: do you understand? I don't think people understand. Do you

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Speaker 2: the situations like this, Man, John, go up there right now. Man,

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Speaker 2: what's what's the what's the only name? I forgot his name? Uh?

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Speaker 2: I meant Gooler Googler. Yeah, his daughter's really good at tennis. Huh. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's really good at tennis, you know, mister Gooler. Man,

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Speaker 2: Jos's godon man, listen, mister Gooler. I don't want any

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: The cook, Bro the cook is a very important part

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Speaker 2: some of the pressure off my shoulders. Let's let's find

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Speaker 1: Bro, I gave you three hundred thirty million. I need

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Speaker 1: to put more pressure on your shoulder. So get out

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Speaker 2: I forgot. I forgot. He paid Josh all that got Damn.

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Speaker 1: but think about it. He in Steeler's ego territory, and

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Speaker 2: even if we do pay him, he might not be

434
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: available like he was last year, or anyone like.

435
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: You, don't you don't miss six games.

436
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: You don't. You don't say stuff like that as the

437
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: owner when he's busting his ass for you and your team. Obviously,

438
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: do what his job is and what you pay him

439
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: to do. Injuries are a part of a sport. But

440
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: to hear your owner, the one who signed the check,

441
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: to say it and to say how he really feels

442
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: publicly to the world. That's the kind of stuff like

443
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: it gets out. It slips out because somebody recorded it,

444
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: somebody stuck a conversation, but he just like proudly he

445
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: blurted it out, letting you know how he feels about you.

446
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: How could you want to line up and put that

447
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: hat on? How could you want to wear that star

448
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: outside of just doing it for the money.

449
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: See, if we talk about o Cho, that's why I

450
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: like to have somebody because he might would have told

451
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 1: the agent that, but the agent never would have come

452
00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: back and told.

453
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: Me or you the exactly why you never want to

454
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: be a part of where. You never want to be

455
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: a part of negotiations because the real them comes out

456
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: and the agency never discloses. That will be upset. Everybody

457
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: will be upset on how they feel about you because

458
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: when it comes to business, they are shrewd, right.

459
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: This is what they do. This is not what you do.

460
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem. I think Bobby Wagner was

461
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: one of the first ones that says, you know, I

462
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: no longer have an agent. I'm going to negotiate my

463
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: own contract. I think scharm does that. I think we

464
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: saw Lamar and his mom negotiate their own contract. I

465
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that. If he says I'm

466
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: going to be my own representative, I'm going to engage

467
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: in these talks with whomever, be it Jerry, Stephen or

468
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: whomever is doing this contract negotiations, I'm cool with that.

469
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: But if I tell you I have representation, don't try

470
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: to isolate me right back. You know, buddy, That's why

471
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: I have representation, because this is what they do. I'm

472
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: giving him a percentage of the total contract because I

473
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: want him to negotiate on my behalf. So that's why

474
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: Jerry had him going all these places. Hey, Michael, come on,

475
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: fly on the plane, because he's trying to no, no, no,

476
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: no no. If Michael said, you know what, Jerry, You're right,

477
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: I can do this on my own, and then that

478
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: way I don't have to give David his agent. I

479
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: won't have to give him two three percent of whatever

480
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: the case may be, whatever he charges, I just keep

481
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: that for himself. But that's not what Michael said. Michael says, hey,

482
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: I have an agent. He's like, I thought this was

483
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: the start of the negotiation. Hey, hey, David Muguletta is

484
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing from you. A told him we

485
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: had a great conversation. He'll take it from here. Jered

486
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: thought they had a done deal.

487
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: No, Mi, no, no, no, I'm not stupid. No, hey,

488
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: but this is the part I understand. This goes for everybody.

489
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Also in the chat, you have certain players. You have

490
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: special players that come along. I call him no brainer.

491
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: I call them players that are no brainers when they

492
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: come in, when they get drafted and you watch them

493
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: play year to year, it's a no brainer when it's

494
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: time to pay them, right, Michael Parsons is a no brainer.

495
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: The pieces are no brainers. The Justin Jefferson's are no brainers.

496
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: Amar Ross, Saint Brian, I'm just using receivers from perspective.

497
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: They are no brainers. You know, there's no reason to

498
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: play a game when it comes to a player of

499
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: that magnitude even if they're whatever the books may say

500
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: like stuff like that. Well, we know what. We have

501
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: one player on defense. It's our superstar paying the ball.

502
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: The balls should have been rolling on the season started

503
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: another three weeks. And what do we talk Why are

504
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: we still talking about contract with the no brainer?

505
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because think about it. What it cost the Binger.

506
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: They cost them an extra six million dollars a year,

507
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: or next to twenty four million dollars over four years

508
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: because you waited the year. It probably cost you an

509
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: extra thirty million dollars in guarantees because you waited the

510
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: extra year. So you have to pay a tax. You

511
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: have to pay a penalty if you're late. Let me

512
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: ask you a question. If you late on your rent,

513
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: you pay a penalty if you late. If you got

514
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: something at the court and you're late, if you ow

515
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam, there's a penalty for being late. If you

516
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: negotiate my contract late, there is a penalty for said service. Now,

517
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: with all that being said, Jerry didn't have to say

518
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: any of that. But Jerry just going to show you.

519
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: See Now, Jerry, he's got to let you know who's

520
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: in charge. Because it is reported that as the representative

521
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: has been trying to reach out. Jerry returned no calls

522
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: on purpose, absolutely, on purpose, absolutely to prove the point.

523
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: What point he's trying to prove. I have no idea.

524
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: I run the show.

525
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show.

526
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I will pay you. I'll pay you when I get ready,

527
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: like you do me, Like you basically told me, I

528
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: will pay you when I get ready.

529
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, I ain't say I ain't say that.

530
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I know your action.

531
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: Did I'm gonna take ky your baby. I'm not Jerry.

532
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: I don't.

533
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't like that comparison. Don't do me like that,

534
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: don't yeh?

535
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: Could we come up on a year. It's a pauty

536
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: for being late.

537
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. I got one thing

538
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: about it.

539
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: I need to see you got it. But I need

540
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: to get it right, you know A you know I

541
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: l like right now with you.

542
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: I light right now. I can't light. That's That's why

543
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: I love you, That's why I like that. That's what

544
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: I need. Come on, come on back home. That's what

545
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: I need you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I

546
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: need you. He's gonna be all right. Sure, we're gonna

547
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: be all right.

548
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what Todd Trippers said we're gonna be

549
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: all right, We're good and and and Michael. Michael said,

550
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: well you back me in a corner. I don't be

551
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: here no more. Hey, if you think I'll tell you

552
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: what if you upset talk about I might not be here.

553
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: I missed six games. Trade me, Yeah, see what the

554
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: market is and trade me.

555
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: Man, listen, but hey, he if Jerry was to play,

556
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: obviously you know he's not gonna do that. Well, you know,

557
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Michael could reset the market by what we're gonna reset

558
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: the market anyway. He might get fifty. I mean, I'm

559
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: I definitely believe you get forty five. Yeah, easy, I

560
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: believe I believe you get forty five.

561
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: Whatever. Miles get whatever Miles Garrett gott and guaranteed money

562
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: I think he got. Miles got one twenty three, he

563
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: go what he goes one forty easy.

564
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: But this is the only part I don't like is

565
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: whatever team he goes to, it wouldn't be a contender.

566
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: It'd be a team that has a lot of room,

567
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: a lot of salary cap room, so they'll be able

568
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: to pay him.

569
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: That either a trade for what the commanders are definitely

570
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: trade for it.

571
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: Man, the Eagles. That's not fair. That's that's not fair.

572
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: If he were to go to the Eagles and they

573
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: gave up whatever compensation they would want for Michael Parsons,

574
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: then you might as well hand him the God damn Lombardi.

575
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: Now just go just go ahead and get me.

576
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: But you what Jared said, he worried about the missing time.

577
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: He won't have to worry about it. He don't have

578
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: to worry about paying him, and he ain't got to

579
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: worry about him getting injured and missing time on his dying.

580
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: So with that being said, and the first learned like

581
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: and at some point in time, it's just like, bro,

582
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I get it? I get it.

583
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: You own the team. You said, Hey, I'm in my

584
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: fifth year. We could have did something after year four,

585
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean year three, we could have done something after

586
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: year four. So now we're now we're into the option.

587
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: You picked up my fifth year player option. That's where

588
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: we are right now. Yeah, after four Pro Bowls, two

589
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: to three first team All pros DeFi the year.

590
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: Twelve sacks, the season, twelve sacks, four years in a

591
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: road Come on, huh is that?

592
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: What? So?

593
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing right now? Jared, really really,

594
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing.

595
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: It couldn't could listen. I can't say it couldn't be

596
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: me because.

597
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: They said this is negotiating, no show. He said, we're

598
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: negotiating now, right.

599
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: But it's a true business. It's a true business. And

600
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: the fact that he let his feelings out publicly like that, Yeah,

601
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: it says all you need to know.

602
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you and I look, we've played sports

603
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: and we've been in the negotiat When negotiation gets personal,

604
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful, O Joe. You gotta be careful

605
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: in any type of negotiation, whatever the case may be.

606
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: If it starts to get personal, one side will start

607
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: to build up a resentment towards the other side, right,

608
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: And then even when he gets the money, they still

609
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: feel a certain way, and then the other person that

610
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: gave you the money still feels a certain type of way.

611
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: The funny thing about it is regardless for us as

612
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: the player, we're never in a position of leverage.

613
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: No, we're never in a position of power unless you unless,

614
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: unless you're like you know what you turn out to

615
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: be like, Damn, I'm balling, defensive Rookie of the Year,

616
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm all pro and I really just sit on my

617
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: money and I'm willing to say, Okay, y'all playing. I

618
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: see y'all week eight so I can get that. I'll

619
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: see y'all week eight, so I get that. Best a year.

620
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Come in, give me another quick eight sacks. Now what

621
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna do? Mhm, y'all play, y'all play, I play right? Yeah.

622
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: But see, that's the thing. If you didn't have see

623
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Nosey has leverage him been through your player option,

624
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: which is this year, and he has two franchise tags.

625
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: So just imagine, just imagine if see Dak. You see

626
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: what Dak wrote in his contracts. No franchise tags. Oh yeah,

627
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: no franchise tags quarterback.

628
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: He can even do that.

629
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Hey put that in there right, Hey, now you can't

630
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: franchise me because that's the leverage that they got because

631
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: I got I got theoretically, Mike, I got you for

632
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: this year and two more.

633
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: Dang, that's a it's it's unbelievable. The game, the games

634
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: that they play. You already know how they feel, right,

635
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: you know how they feel about you.

636
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: You know.

637
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: It's one thing that they say, and I hate to

638
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: bring it up, is the first thing when you when

639
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: you compare the NFL to a certain term, they want

640
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: to use the first people. The first thing people bring up,

641
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: well you get paid millions. But it's modern day, you

642
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: know what, but you get paid millions, you know. But

643
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: that's that's need to hear no there, but just to

644
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: hear Jerry say it. Just the fact that he uttered

645
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: the words with confidence here in the world about your

646
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: star player. And then he took a.

647
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: Shot of Dak, what what are we?

648
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

649
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Well, look, Dak realized he is the quarterback that is

650
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: the leader of the team. Yes, but he and Jerry.

651
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: It's not like see Jerry had a relationship with Tony Romo. Yeah,

652
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: that's Dak is always hiding post Jerry because it was

653
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: Jerry that wanted to give Tony Romeo's job back.

654
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: Mhmm. That wasn't happen.

655
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Oh he was. He got he kind of got. You know,

656
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: Steven and I think Jason Garrett and a few others

657
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: like Jerry, what are you doing? What do you what

658
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: are you? Are you serious?

659
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

660
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Even after all those injuries that that uh uh uh

661
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: Tony Romo he paid him. He mention nothing but no injury,

662
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: he mentioned nothing. By that and at one point time

663
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: Tony Romo was high pay playing in NFL without blinking.

664
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

665
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: Jerry also spoke with the reporters about Michael trey requests.

666
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say.

667
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: Would you ever consider again?

668
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't u the place that with any real seriousness.

669
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: You know, Mike has got a bad back. That's like

670
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 3: being traded. Did the request take you back the way

671
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: of the same? Did the request take you by surprise? Again?

672
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: That's negotiation. I've heard that so many times in my

673
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: thirty years in the NFL about from not just players

674
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: but agents. And of course we all understand contracts. We're

675
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: under contract, that's what we're doing. We're looking at adjusting

676
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: the contract. But we're under contract and we're in camp,

677
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: and that's the way the rules are set up. But

678
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: that is old stuff, thirty years of old stuff. Some

679
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: of these issues we're hearing about, trading, hurt backs, all

680
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.

681
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: When do you start? When do you start negotiations with

682
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 2: his people?

683
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: Jerry again, I've been negotiating. I started negotiations in March

684
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: with his age. I said, I started negotiation in March,

685
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: and I've negotiated double handfuls of contracts, just like I

686
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: did in March.

687
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: He thought it was again again again again.

688
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: Are you asking me?

689
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

690
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: I started that in March. I first to him a

691
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: negotiations associating us.

692
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: The meeting was about leadership, not about his contract.

693
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: It's my answer, it's my answer. I was negotiating in

694
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: March again. I sat with him at the Big twelve

695
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: Conference championships, with him at Super Bowl. So Michael is

696
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 3: easy for me to talk to, and we've had good talks,

697
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: and we had a good talk regarding negotiation of the

698
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: contract the way I have many many, many players.

699
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Man.

700
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: He says something very interesting. O't Joe, He says, Michaels

701
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: in the contract? What about when players on the contract

702
00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: and they get cut?

703
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't kim, you know, don't care one side.

704
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: You think, oh, we have contract, we have rules, but

705
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: the rules on one sided. If I outperform the contract,

706
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: want a new contract, you say, whoa WHOA? You under contract?

707
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: If I underperformed the contract that I signed, you say,

708
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: you gotta go. You see, this is what this is

709
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: what players should be. This is why they fight so

710
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: hard to try to get guaranteed money. This is what

711
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: you should be instead of petty privileges, instead of worrying

712
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: about two of days and worry about how many padded

713
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: practice you have during the course of the year. These

714
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: are the things that true leadership in the nfl PA,

715
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: this is what you should be fighting for. I'm getting

716
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: rid of the trade. No, we're not doing a franchise

717
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: tag right. Look if I if I, if I'm at

718
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: a normal job and I want to my contract is

719
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: coming up, they can't say, well, we're gonna franchise you.

720
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: And if I work for Google, that means I can't

721
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: go talk to Apple or I can't go talk to Microsoft.

722
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: No.

723
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: Free agen, See how can you be free? If you can't,

724
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: you you undertag. They gotta tag on you. Free agency

725
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: means I'm free to negotiate wherever, and they can't be

726
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: a cap because whatever the market would bear. I just

727
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: saw Mark Zuckerberg just pay a guy a I got

728
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million, gave him a hundred million

729
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: up front. That's what free agency is. All I'm saying

730
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: against and we're gonna give it. I just hope the

731
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: next person in the NFL p A. This is some

732
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: of this is some of the themes health benefits, no

733
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: SAP no.

734
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: Uh, no franchise tag, no franchise tag. Gotta go guaranteed contracts, Yeah, man,

735
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: because you can't, Oh Joe, you can't have it both ways.

736
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: You can negotiate with me when you want to, but

737
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 4: you can also cut me when you want to. See, so,

738
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: if I performed the contract, you say you got a contract.

739
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: I underperformed the contract. You didn't perform up to the standard,

740
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: and so now you're gonna yeah.

741
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: So you you got to be careful. They need somebody,

742
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: all right. I know you think you view me, you

743
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: view me as the fun, the love, the entertainment that

744
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: the jokes and the laughter. But they need somebody shrew

745
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: that could be shrewed right back. When it come to

746
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: conducting business. You got to be someone that's fighting for

747
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: the players, not minimizing the players and pretending like I'm

748
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: for you, but really siding on the other end.

749
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

750
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: Man, Listen, you know how we the NFL owners, don't

751
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: want to lose the leverage. Baseball players have the leverage. Basketball,

752
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: the players have the leverage. All sports where contracts are guaranteed,

753
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: the players have the leverage. I think that's so many

754
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: players on a team. NFL owners don't want to lose

755
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: a leverage of the player.

756
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad, guess what, And I don't know when

757
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: it's back and ain't wudn't have been gay on it either,

758
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know when this back, this back issue,

759
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: because it flares up every time I go to put

760
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: that that help and all my bank starting to hurt on.

761
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: Yo, every time. Every time he could play, he could

762
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: play hardball, He could play hardball. But listen with with

763
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 2: with with owners, GMS, everyone that sits in a position

764
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: of power on the NFL team, What they will use

765
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: against you is they know you're probably fold before I

766
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: do because you love the game. You love the game.

767
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: They're banking on it, they're banking on it. You're gonna

768
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: fold before they do. So you you got you got

769
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: to play hardball. How hard do you want to play

770
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: the game? Because they gonna play with you, They're gonna

771
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: test you. Yeah.

772
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 1: Uh you see how agitated he got. I negotiated in March.

773
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I answer the question already.

774
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: No, Michael said he thought you were talking about leadership.

775
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: M He referred you to his age. It you asking me? Yeah,

776
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: we're asking you, but we talked to Michael two.

777
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: Listen, can you imagine a chat? I don't. I don't mean,

778
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not into really into hypotheticals, because you

779
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: imagine if Jeffrey Lewie and Howie Roseman ran the Cowboys.

780
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if they were the ones in charge with.

781
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: The talent that they had because they drafted like the second,

782
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: they drafted like the second most since what twenty fourteen?

783
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: Maybe the second they might be first with the Chiefs

784
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: as far as Pro Bowl players, imagine how many time

785
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: they've been the number one seed and got bounced in

786
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: the first round or the second round. This is with

787
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: that talent and hold on when they had the best

788
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: running back in football, z led the best offensive line

789
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: in football, and when they were taken when they were

790
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: putting eight, nine, ten guys into the Pro Bowl, when

791
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: they had when they had when they had those teams

792
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: with O and Wit and t O and they had

793
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: the Marcus where and they had all those guys.

794
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: The boy were nice, but they were loaded with they

795
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: were loaded. But I think I'm not sure why Jerry

796
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: can't can can't get it or can't see it.

797
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: Jerry one's credit.

798
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: Listen, but you look at the Patriots, right, Look at

799
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: all the that is successful every season, every season, the

800
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Patriots when they their dynasty, and the good years you

801
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: had Belichick, you had Tom Brady. Forget that part.

802
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Where did it start, mister cram And the only time

803
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: you heard from mister Craff is when he was taking

804
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: the trophy out of Roger Goodell's hand.

805
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: But everything starts at the top, Winning starts from the

806
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: front office, and it trickles all the way down, right.

807
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: But Jerry wants you to be about him the cheese.

808
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why people, Oh, Tom Brady should go

809
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: to the Tom Brady should go to the Cowboys. Boy

810
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: you Tom Brady, sayd Jerry, I'll play for you for

811
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: a million dollars, and Jerry would have told him hell no,

812
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: because Jerry would never be bigger than Tom. And Jerry

813
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: don't want nobody to be on the Cowboy to be

814
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: bigger than him, So that's not gonna happen. M I

815
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: don't get why he's doing it like this, but look

816
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: they go, I guess this is there. You know how

817
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: you have a negotiation in the media and when it

818
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: should be negotiated behind closed doors. Oh well x y Z.

819
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: We negotiated, We had, we had a deal done. Michael say, well, hey,

820
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: I want to Hey, I don't even want to play

821
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: for y'all no more. Yeah, let me let me go, Hey,

822
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: let me go somewhere.

823
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: And Jerry's continue to do this on purpose because it

824
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: does what it keeps Whose team.

825
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: In the media you were talking about him? Yeah, because

826
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: ain't nobody I mean, I mean the only other team

827
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: that we talked about me is Cleveland and Schauder. We really,

828
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: if you really think about it, though, Joe, we ain't

829
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: really having a discussion about No. No, you know, we

830
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: talked here and there about you know, the broad mass

831
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: between Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin. I was just reading

832
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: a little bit about Matthew Stafford got something going on

833
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: with his back. Yeah, But for the most part, it's

834
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Michael, Jerry and you got your door. Yeah,

835
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: that's pretty It's been a really a relative quiet training

836
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: camp cycle. And you know, Yarry like, hey, let me

837
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: let me let me start some ish, like hey, popping

838
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: out for us right now, let me start some ish

839
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: and uh and to see where this thing go.

840
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: The funny thing about it, But I don't like is

841
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: is Michael. I feel bad for Michael. I feel bad

842
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, the fans. I feel bad for the

843
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: players because I know that this is how your owner

844
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: thinks of you. If you can talk about your star

845
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: players like that, you know what he thinks about you.

846
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: And Jerry is is is at the forefront and letting

847
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: people know nobody run the show with me and nobody

848
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: yeah big in my program.

849
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah my program. Well you look even even the team Jered.

850
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: Just just so you know, every team gets a check

851
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: cut for four hundred and thirty two million, So it's

852
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: not like you're doing an outstanding job because you're not.

853
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: It sells itself at this point, it does just like

854
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: all the other teams. All the other teams sell them SA. Granted,

855
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: now when it comes to the local market, they probably

856
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: don't do what Jerry does because it's Dallas, you know. Obviously,

857
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: they don't sell in Jacksonville's Cincinnati or Houston or Tennessee

858
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: like they do. Okay, fine, but they're not gonna be

859
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna be in the line tomorrow either.

860
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: But just keep doing it that way. He gonna get

861
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: tired of Philly. He gonna get tired of Philly and

862
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: Washington run of the divisions. He get tired of it.

863
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: It's been thirty years. If he was gonna get tired

864
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: of it, he would have. He would have already picked

865
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: up on how everyone else is doing things. He's continued

866
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: to do it his way. He's set in his ways.

867
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: At of course, he's not gonna change. If I was

868
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: the owner of any team, I'll be taking notes. Okay,

869
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: this is what crafted, This is what Belichick did. Okay,

870
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: this is what Howie and and and Jeff.

871
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: This is what Clark Hunt and Andy Reid how they

872
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: handle business.

873
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me see the Rooney the Ruoneys

874
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: had success during this era. All Right, we're in a

875
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: different era. But let me see if I can steal

876
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: some of the things that they did, how they conducted business.

877
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: Let me add this to my and came with my

878
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: own game plan, my own formula on how to conduct things.

879
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Draft right, pay early, keep certain people.

880
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: Man, that's what they do. They pay early with identified guy.

881
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: We drafted a homegrown guy. Let's get him a year three. Uh.

882
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: You know they got Carl offtus.

883
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

884
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna take a pretty penny to get McDuffie signed.

885
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: But you know, are they are they gonna? Are they

886
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: going to Simon McDuffie, becauld You let the la Jerry snead.

887
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, they go. Yeah, they're not gonna let them go. Yeah,

888
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: they're not gonna let them go. Later in the pressor,

889
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: Jerry tried to use Daz Bryant negotiation has reasoning for

890
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: not wanting to work with Michael Parson's agent. Let's take

891
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: a list of what Jerry said about this. Why you yourself?

892
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: I talk to agent because the agent when we have

893
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 3: a problem within the team and a player, I don't

894
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: ever find the agent. He's nowhere to be found.

895
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: Okay.

896
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 3: Jay Z said that Michael would make all I'm not Michael,

897
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: but that days would make all meetings. Jay Z and

898
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: I negotiated the contract. We spent hours negotiating the contract.

899
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: Jay Z and he said, to anybody in my organization,

900
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: is on time? Said, my office used to be on

901
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: the street corner and I've always been early, so they

902
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: will be on time. I said, where do I sign?

903
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna call you finally quit taking my call.

904
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: I know, Jeredy, Jared Drossness, Daz and here, what does

905
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: that have to do with any goddamn thing? He said.

906
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: The reason why I don't like working with agents because

907
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: you told me that this client was gonna be on time.

908
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: That's what he told me. He said, I'm used to

909
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: working on the street corner. And if you work on

910
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: the street corner, if you're late. Yeah, if you're earlier,

911
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: you're late. So you better believe my guy. If they're

912
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: in this organization, which was rock, they're gonna be on time.

913
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: This is this was a dad's response, Jerry Jones. I

914
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: don't think it's mart mentioned in my name. I kept

915
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: quiet bout a lot of unfair ish oh some g ish.

916
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: Wh We have a story tized. That's what we're doing.

917
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know, you know, Dave's got

918
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: he got his little piece. But you can't win that war.

919
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't. You can't. You can't win that war. No,

920
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: you can't win that war. And what what I what

921
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do.

922
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into it with I'm not getting because

923
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry is the type or tell all your business.

924
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: He oh, Joe, that's a little so okay, dance was

925
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: late for meeting? Okay, yeah, I get it. So who

926
00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: wasn't because I was too, but Jerry might not like

927
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: hold on, no, Jared, you can't say that. Oh I

928
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to tell that much, you know. J Hey,

929
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: you know the old people. Oh yo, when they measure,

930
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: they don't really have no measuring. They go by field,

931
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 1: they go by okay, this and that ain't no measuring cup.

932
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: The some some you know, coaches owners might measure a

933
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 1: little bit. Jared, just just poor.

934
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: Listen. If he can do to Micaeh, who is of

935
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: value to his franchise right now, what do you think

936
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: he'll do to DEAs, who is of no value right

937
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: now laying for you?

938
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

939
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: You know, so I went. And also I wouldn't want

940
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 2: to There are certain bridges I don't want to burn. Yeah,

941
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: for sure, bridges I don't want to burn because you

942
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: never know when you might have to cross him again.

943
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm sure Dad was sitting on this couch. Dad, No,

944
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Dad was probably playing Madden because you say Dad's good

945
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: with the sticks.

946
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's like d what d hen I gotta

947
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: do with this my own business?

948
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: You bring you bring me into this.

949
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: And you know what's funny is is we we have

950
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: people on the outside, you know, looking at it. Uh,

951
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: they're they're just owners and and I don't I want

952
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: people to understand how powerful, how powerful these individuals are

953
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: outside of the game of football. I want people to understand.

954
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: So when I when I just said, there's certain bridges

955
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: you don't want to burn, even if okay, you know

956
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: what he says something you don't like. You know what,

957
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: there's certain things you got to let go because you

958
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: go in the ward with something you will never be

959
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: able to defeat and it can ruin a lot of

960
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: things for you outside. If if you get what I'm saying,

961
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: the folks is very very very very powerful outside of football.

962
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: I think people don't, you know, I think people really

963
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: don't really don't understand the power that these individuals have.

964
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: Are you to do I mean, I mean the cat

965
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 2: just a regular regular football fans like people in the chat,

966
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

967
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

968
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 2: People are.

969
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: I told him, mister Boling, call and got my money back.

970
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: Oh hoe, I can If I give you the right tools,

971
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: I can, you can probably win the war. But I

972
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: gotta give you the white weapons to go fight. I

973
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: don't know currently if if Michael has the weapon to fight.

974
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: Now, I have no leverage. No, it's unfair.

975
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: Yep. But now I'm like, how long dance?

976
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: Dance?

977
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: How long you've been retired? Seven years? Eight years?

978
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why he even bought his name up.

979
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: Yes, because here's the thing. You could say that you

980
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: didn't have to use DAZ. You could have said there

981
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: have been times that the agent told me that player

982
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: X was gonna get treatment, player X was gonna do X,

983
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Y and Z right with player X does not do that.

984
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: And I try to get on the phone with the

985
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: agent now, all of a sudden, he won't return the calls. Now,

986
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: but when we're negotiating money, he calling me. Right, I

987
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: got all this, I got all this fun I got,

988
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: I got this. I got a landline, and you know,

989
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people ain't got land lines no more.

990
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: But I got his landline, I got the number to

991
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: the secretary, I got his personal phone number, I got X,

992
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: Y and Z. All I'm saying is he didn't have

993
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: to use DAS.

994
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: It ain't make no sense.

995
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: He didn't have to use DAS.

996
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: Makes no sense.

997
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: And I can assure you Dad's is not. But Dad's ay,

998
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: just let it, just let it rock you good, Hey,

999
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: you'd have made your money. You straight, You live in Dallas,

1000
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: You got a nice life. Don't mess it up with

1001
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: some pay the bull dye. It ain't even worth it, bro,

1002
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: You know that. I it's frustrating that he dragging you

1003
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: into something you ain't got nothing to do with. That's

1004
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: that's between Jerry and Micah and David mcletter. They got

1005
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: none do with Dance Bright. I don't know if if

1006
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: there is an agent. I don't know if Rock Nation

1007
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: has a client on the Cowboys, I don't know. All

1008
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: I do know is that Daz's name shouldn't have been

1009
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: brought up when you're trying to make a point of

1010
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: why you don't like negotiating with agents. But all these

1011
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: millions so liberal, So.

1012
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm everybody under the bus, huh reversing over them?

1013
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, backed up over But but I thought that was

1014
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing. That's the whole thing about having an agent.

1015
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: I mean, when Jared, when I guarantee you, when Jerry

1016
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: go joke knowing Sha these hundred million dollar deals, Jerry

1017
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: sent this a hundred million dollar lawyers in there negotiate

1018
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: with the other companies, a hundred million dollar lawyers.

1019
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: How you think him and Muga Letta don't get along.

1020
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: You think they got some personal issues or something.

1021
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: No, Muka letter don't relook at to reset the market.

1022
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: Damn the same thing Todd Franz did when he got

1023
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Dag's money. Now, I don't know, I don't know who

1024
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: represents CD, but I know Todd Franz represents that. So yeah,

1025
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking to reset the market because i want to

1026
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: keep climbing higher. And I'm trying to get as munch

1027
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: of money as I guarantee K because I'm trying to

1028
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get uh who got the most guaranteed money?

1029
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett one twenty three. Okay, I'm trying to get

1030
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: one forty because we're gonna keep pushing it. You keep

1031
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: pushing it. Oh. Lamar Jackson said, Oh, did y'all see

1032
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen got guaranteed? I'm gonna need that because

1033
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: he got one MVP. I got two.

1034
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, you know you'd have had three, you know. Shoot,

1035
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: Lamar going back to the table after this season.

1036
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: Hey, Lamar tried to go back to the table to

1037
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: the table before this season.

1038
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's gonna happen I'm sure he hit the

1039
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: ticket at some point.

1040
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Hey, I'm just saying, look, if you're

1041
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: talking about north of what Josh got ye, I'll let

1042
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: your boy.

1043
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1044
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: If that ain't what you're looking at, If that ain't

1045
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: what you're looking for, what we're talking about. M damn,

1046
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what's it about twenty eight twenty nine? He's straight?

1047
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: He good? Yeah, boyd man, I can't believe Jerry be

1048
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: throwing everybody under the.

1049
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: Buck, man, Jarry, don't care, man, buddy, don't care, man.

1050
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: Jay, you do realize, first of all, Jared, you do

1051
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: realize these are supposed to be private conversations, like when

1052
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: you talk to an agent. You're supposed to be private.

1053
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: This man mentioned jay Z by name, the idea to

1054
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: deal with jay Z byself, so he gonna be on time,

1055
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: say Temple where I signed at? Right there? Hey, man, oh,

1056
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Mike and March at the

1057
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: Big twelve Championship at the super Bowl.

1058
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: Nothing. This is this is business, man.

1059
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: Hey, I never find out Jaed you're wearing a wire

1060
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: telling it all about you, telling everybody's business. Jerry put

1061
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: it out there, badge. Yeah, dead respot. I read to

1062
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: quote Jerry Jones. I don't think it's smart to mention

1063
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: my name. I kept quiet about a lot of unfair

1064
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: ish on some g ish. We can have a story,

1065
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: We can have story time. If that's what we're doing now,

1066
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: just let it rock Dad, Rock Nation, Terrence Steele. Oh, okay,

1067
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Terry Steele, he's the right tackle on the Cowboys. Rock

1068
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: Nation also responded in twenty fifteen at the Club at

1069
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: twenty one Club on a napkin, Jerry Jonesjan Perez, Sean

1070
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: jay Z, Carter and Stephen Jones negotiated a five year,

1071
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: seventy million dollar deal which included forty five million guaranteed

1072
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: and a twenty million dollar signing bonus for dead Bright

1073
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: at a time, which was the second largest contract for

1074
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in NFL history. The claim that mister

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Speaker 1: Carter or Rock Nation representative did not return the call

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Speaker 1: from Jerry Jones is not only a false statement, but

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Speaker 1: it's also a comical one. Rock Nation Sports, you know,

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Speaker 1: sports representative, So.

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Speaker 2: Not Jerry Lyon too. Well, shoot you know who, don't

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Speaker 2: we all? We all listen, But he ain't handling been

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Speaker 2: as the right way. He ain't handling ben as the

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Speaker 2: right way.

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Speaker 1: Nope, but guess what, he don't care. He don't care,

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Speaker 1: He don't care. Jaed