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Speaker 1: you forget Kellen Mond's fields because they're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: any credit for Kellen Mond because he fell in their lap. Yeah, Fields,

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Speaker 1: if he Fields comes back is everything the Chicago Bears want,

431
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Speaker 1: neat and hope. For Spielm was sitting there going, we

432
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Speaker 1: didn't give up what the Bears gave up, you know,

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Speaker 1: not if you're only moving up three spots as opposed

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Speaker 1: to nine. So why didn't the deal get done? Right,

435
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Speaker 1: that's the question. That's why didn't the deal get done? So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel for Rick Spielman. I don't. I

437
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Speaker 1: did not hear the exact line of questioning to know

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Speaker 1: how he had to pivot off of that. He was

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Speaker 1: probably asked something to the effect of, hey, did you

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Speaker 1: have an interest in Justin Fields? And if so, did

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Speaker 1: you try to trade up the board and he said

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Speaker 1: yes and yes, and basically everybody knows did not part

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Speaker 1: with what was necessary to go up there and get him,

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Speaker 1: and instead your division rival has leap front. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine what the draft room looked like in Minnesota when

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Speaker 1: they're sitting there waiting for their turn at fourteen, pick

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Speaker 1: ten goes off the board, Pick eleven's on the clock

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Speaker 1: and it changes from the Giants to the Bears. What

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Speaker 1: do you think it looked like in the Minnesota draft

450
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Speaker 1: room at that point? I mean about I get I'd

451
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Speaker 1: venture you guess about ten people wanted to throw up.

452
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, that's your division rival got him. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: isn't that that's unbelievable. And now, so here's the thing

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Speaker 1: Fields takes off. It's not only bad that you didn't

455
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Speaker 1: get him. Now he's going to torment you twice a

456
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Speaker 1: year for ten years. Well, the Giant. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It was expensive because the Giants gave up or the

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Speaker 1: bearsars gave up. The Bears gave up their first and

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Speaker 1: twentieth overall, also their fifth, next year's first, and next

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Speaker 1: year's fourth. So one a lot one of four and

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Speaker 1: a five and swapped first. It's a lot, not as

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Speaker 1: much as San Fran, No, not as much as San Fran.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if Fields pans out bad for Rick Spielman,

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Speaker 1: if mon flames out bad for Rick Spielman, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd had to give up you'd had to give up

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Speaker 1: two ones and maybe the fourth or two ones and

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Speaker 1: the fifth, not the fifth and the fourth. So because

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Speaker 1: you're only moving, you're moving up nine less spots, right,

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Speaker 1: they were only dropping back three spots. I think the

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Speaker 1: thing that put it over the top was probably those

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Speaker 1: next year's picks, the first and the fourth next year,

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Speaker 1: that those are valuable. So I would have to believe

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Speaker 1: Spielman was not parting with draft capital next year. He

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Speaker 1: was trying to give him stuff in this year's draft.

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Speaker 1: Going up from fourteen to eleven, arguable that's probably a

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Speaker 1: two two, maybe a five to go up three spots.

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Speaker 1: You're not even in the top ten, you're outside the

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Speaker 1: top ten going up to a left. And Minnesota is

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Speaker 1: not desperate to replace Kirk Cool. No, they have, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have k Chicago is complete, yes, one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: So there is that. Yeah, Minnesota could ride Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: for another two years before they ever get back into

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Speaker 1: the quarterback market, or they can just wait to see

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Speaker 1: what the free agent market brings next year. That's that's evident.

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Speaker 1: So they weren't as desperate as Chicago. They weren't They

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Speaker 1: didn't have to move up as far as Chicago, and

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to probably try, I'm saying probably they

488
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Speaker 1: might not have wanted a draft to part with the

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Speaker 1: draft picks from next year's draft, which is going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot better or deeper than this one right now. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it. But it strikes me now more so

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Speaker 1: in this day and age than ever before. I've never

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Speaker 1: thought about it. You always wonder why why didn't this happen?

494
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Why didn't they ask this? Why didn't that these gems

495
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: talk to each other all the time. Yeah, these conversations happened.

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Speaker 1: Like the forty nine ers call in immediately to green

497
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Speaker 1: Bay and green Back Goodakin's just saying no, the answers,

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Speaker 1: no Minnesota or not Minnesota, Seattle. Russ Wilson starts to

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Speaker 1: make some sparks in the offseason. Immediately least Chicago is

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00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: on the phone, Caroline is on the phone, All these

501
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: teams are on the phone trying to find out and

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Speaker 1: the answer is like, no, we're not getting rid of round,

503
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: you know. But they do. They talk a lot, and

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00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: these trades are they horse trade way more than we

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Speaker 1: ever gave them credit for it in decades past. Now,

506
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: maybe it didn't happen in decades past. I think in

507
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: this day and age, well you've got it, really is.

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00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: You got a new generation of young gms in this

509
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: league right now. They're all relatively new and their respective

510
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: positions have served for most of them have served for

511
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: less than five years, certainly less than ten years, and

512
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: I think they're more apt to move move capital around

513
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: and they don't mind doing it. I think it's also now.

514
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: It started changing back in the nineties with Jimmy Johnson

515
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Speaker 1: doing the draft valuation chart, where they kind of get

516
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Speaker 1: an idea and everybody can agree on what draft picks

517
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Speaker 1: in each round and at level each level of each

518
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Speaker 1: round are worth. And since there's a wider or a

519
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Speaker 1: more uniform agreement on what all two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: six draft picks are worth, they can agree on what

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Speaker 1: combinations equal each other. That was revolutionary back in the day,

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Speaker 1: and it happened twenty twenty five years ago, and that

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Speaker 1: I think has helped sell it to the owners in

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Speaker 1: the room say well, we're getting this and this and

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Speaker 1: this and these will equalists and we remember this we

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Speaker 1: got this draft pick, Well that could turn out to

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Speaker 1: be this good this time as well. If we get

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Speaker 1: this fifth from the you know, they can sell them

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Speaker 1: on the value of these trade assets more more so

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Speaker 1: than just saying I don't know, there's a concrete value,

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Speaker 1: it's right stuff and so and there's agree and it's

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Speaker 1: accepted league That values accepted league wide as well. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's easier to quantify it and sell it

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Speaker 1: to the ownership group than the room and the draft

535
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Speaker 1: on draft day trades, it's you're just more ready and

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Speaker 1: able to make deals knowing the worth of everything involved.

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Speaker 1: So that is the news and notes from around the

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Speaker 1: league and here in Buffalo. What we want to discuss

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Speaker 1: with you, though, is this draft class for the Bills

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Speaker 1: and what you think will be the biggest impact from

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Speaker 1: the draft class. We have your choices for you at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live on Twitter. Improvement in the run game,

543
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: a more effective pass rush, quality, depth in case of

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Speaker 1: injury or something else. Can let us know we have

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Speaker 1: open phone lines for you at eight oh three, oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: or hit us up on the tweet sheet. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I back in a moment here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. I'm always

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00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: thinking the original one. Steve and I are talking. You're

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Speaker 1: in May the Fourth be with you here. We're bantering

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00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: back and forth with a little Star Wars stuff because

553
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: May the Fourth has been adopted. Guy has been adopted

554
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: in this country anyway, probably others as the licensing and

555
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: merchandising of Star Wars. I don't know if anything tops

556
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: it in pop culture. I don't think anything tops the

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00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: licensing and merchandising of Star Wars stuff. It is it

558
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: is like the out there, like unprecedented. Yeah, it is

559
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: in a galaxy far far away, and nobody is catching right.

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00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I've been a fan for my

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Speaker 1: and my kids are all we're all kind of laughing

562
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: ourselves sometimes. Well you didn't I tell you that it

563
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: was the first ever movie that I saw. I was

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Speaker 1: five years old, really, and I went I was five

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Speaker 1: years old, went to episode four, which back then we

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Speaker 1: thought was the first Star Wars movie was actually the

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Speaker 1: fourth one. Yeah yeah, Episode four, Yeah yeah, it's the

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Speaker 1: first movie I ever saw. My dad took me to

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Speaker 1: a movie theater that was like the only one that

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Speaker 1: back then. I mean we're talking late seventies now, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: one of the first movie theaters that had surround sound. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: picture of five year old going to his first movie

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Speaker 1: in a theater. And you know the beginning of episode four,

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Speaker 1: you got those Imperial ships coming off the top of

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Speaker 1: the screen. Up until Disney bought it, every Star Wars

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Speaker 1: movie begins with a spaceship in flight. Well right, and

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Speaker 1: well they have the dialogue. First, they set the scene

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Speaker 1: for you with the dialogue, you know, going up the

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Speaker 1: screen like this away from you in space, so you're

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Speaker 1: reading that, and then the ship's coming out of the

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Speaker 1: top of the screen. Now super surround sound. Okay. I'm

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Speaker 1: used to a twelve inch black and white set at home, okay,

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Speaker 1: and now I'm in a movie theater with super surround sound.

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Speaker 1: This ship comes over the top. My dad's laughing next

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Speaker 1: to me because I'm doing this. I'm I'm going where

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Speaker 1: the hell I'm looking behind me, like where the hell

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Speaker 1: are these things coming from? What it? Yeah, my five

588
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Speaker 1: year old brain was blown like in the first two

589
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Speaker 1: minutes over sensory overload. Yeah, same with me. The lightsabers

590
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Speaker 1: were new and different. It's a great weapon. The characters

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Speaker 1: were great. Yeah. I stood in line. I stood in

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Speaker 1: line for for one episode, five came out the second one,

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Speaker 1: and uh, student in line as a college kid, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was awesome. Yeah. So I've been a fan for

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Speaker 1: and I don't. I mean it's like the first time

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Speaker 1: I'm in a movie theater. That was the movie. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a good opener. It's a good one. That's a

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Speaker 1: good opener to have as as a kid, which is

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Speaker 1: why I'm still a fan now. Um. Unfortunately, I got

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Speaker 1: my kids hooked on it too, So that's pretty good

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Speaker 1: because they're they're part of the wave of people that

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00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: jumped in with the great movie. Part of the saga

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Speaker 1: is Rogue one, which is one of the sequels that

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Speaker 1: that is a fantastic movie. Yeah, it's a great movie,

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Speaker 1: even the solo one. This solo was a fun movie. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's there've been some good ones. Yeah, really good ones. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll have some fun with that a little

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Speaker 1: later in the show, but in the meantime, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go to the phones because we're asking you what will

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Speaker 1: be the biggest impact from this year's Bill's draft class.

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Speaker 1: We'll lead off with Kevin and Rochester, who was holding

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Speaker 1: before we told everybody what the Twitter poll is. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's

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Speaker 1: life to know why why teams trade down? I understood

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Speaker 1: understand the philosophy of people trading up, but I don't

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Speaker 1: understand the philosophy and trading down, Kevin, because there's a

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Speaker 1: guy the way your board sits, and there's a guy

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Speaker 1: that you want, but you know that the three or

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Speaker 1: four from what you've gained a knowledge about the three

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Speaker 1: or four or six or eight teams behind you, however

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Speaker 1: it is, however far it is, you're trading down. You

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Speaker 1: believe that the guy you want at this pick is

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Speaker 1: still gonna be there, and they will give you an

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Speaker 1: extra pick for your spot, and you can take the chance,

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Speaker 1: and you're willing to take the chance that the same guy,

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Speaker 1: or are just as good a guy, or a guy

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Speaker 1: that's that valuable, will be at your pick later on

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Speaker 1: when you take their pick and you get another pick

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Speaker 1: in the same draft. So you trade down because you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get an extra pick, and you believe that what

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Speaker 1: you'll get is the guy you want anyway, or at

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Speaker 1: this at the point of the draft where you trade down,

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Speaker 1: you don't think anybody in this draft is worth that spot.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna say, listen, I'm gonna trade back. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna gain another pick, and maybe we'll hit a home

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Speaker 1: run with a guy that slist. I'm gonna wait, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna waste a draft pick on any of these

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Speaker 1: jokers at this level, right, So it's one It's usually

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Speaker 1: one of two scenarios. First scenario is Steve said, you've

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Speaker 1: got a cluster of players with similar grades that are

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Speaker 1: a little bit below where you are right now, and

642
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: where you are right now, it doesn't look too good

643
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: in terms of the grades that you have on players

644
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: at your current spot. So somebody calls you and says, hey,

645
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: would you be willing to move down here, this, that,

646
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: and the other. And you look at that area on

647
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: your board and you're like, well, hell, we got like

648
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: six or seven guys over there. You know, we got

649
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: a good cluster of players with grades over there, and

650
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: we think they'll still be on the board. We're only

651
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: six picks away anyway, so we know someone will be there. Yeah,

652
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: we'll do that and get some extra draft capital and

653
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: maybe use that to move up somewhere else you can,

654
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: so you get two of those players you've got graded

655
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: that with that cluster, rather than just get the guy

656
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: you're getting now and not get any of those others.

657
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: That's if that's you're making a big move. If you're

658
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: making a smaller move, as Steve said, if you have

659
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: four or five players before you're on the clock that

660
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: are still on the board, and somebody calls you and

661
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: they ask, hey, can you move back three spots? We

662
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: want to get up here and get our make sure

663
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: we get our guy. And you've got four or five

664
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: guys you like where you sit, Yeah, you'll slide back

665
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: three spots because one of those four or five guys

666
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: are gonna be there when you're on the clock and

667
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: you've picked up some extra draft capital. That's usually the

668
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: way that it works. Let's go back to the phones,

669
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Brendan and north Tanawana. Brendon, what do you have for us?

670
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: You're on one bill's life. Hey, guys, I'm a daily listener.

671
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of trying to shut some light

672
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: on how I feel like things fell out with like

673
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay and how it's led to the Aaron Rodgers situations. Yeah,

674
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: so basically, you know, if the Bills are picking at

675
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: thirty and if Justin Field is still on the board,

676
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, do we take them because the values there

677
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: and it's such a high grade and it's a very

678
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: valuable position. Do you try and parlay that into some

679
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: picks later? You know? And I think that's basically what

680
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: fell out in Green Bay. And they thought that Jordan

681
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: Love was so great of a player that they actually

682
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: trade it up to get them. But now it's created

683
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: all this chaos in their locker room and the MVP

684
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: doesn't even want to play for him anymore. But you know,

685
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: that's a I'm a firm believer in trading or you know,

686
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: grabbing the best player available. And if that's what happens,

687
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, do you do it? Do you pull the

688
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: trigger and hope you get something out of it later,

689
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: or now you know, you ruined your locker room. So yeah,

690
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean totally, yeah, I get it. Yeah, I see

691
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: what he's saying too. I think if There's a couple

692
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: of differences though. I think if the Bills are sitting

693
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: there in thirty in that scenario and justin Fields for

694
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: whatever reason, slides all the way down there. First of all,

695
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: teams are calling the Bills every single phone line they have.

696
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: That's number one. I think if they can't move out

697
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: of their spot in that kind of scenario, yes, I

698
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: think Brandon bean would take the quarterback and then he

699
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: would probably flip him for either players that he needs

700
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: to enhance his current roster or draft capital or both.

701
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: Because that guy's a pawn for you. You could you

702
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: could draft him Thursday night, trade him Friday afternoon. Yeah,

703
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: the situation is this though Green Bay traded up to

704
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: get a guy. Yeah, like there was nobody else they wanted,

705
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 1: Like nobody else was going to help their team. I'm trying,

706
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: and I just I think it's nuts. It's like, and

707
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: I get it now we're talking a little bit. It's

708
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: a little different with the Bills and Josh Allen than

709
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: it is with the Packers and Naron Rodgers. And here's

710
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: the difference. Last year, Aaron Rodgers had played fifteen years.

711
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: Now he's played sixteen, and he was he was the MVP.

712
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Josh in his third year, so he's got another twelve years.

713
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean, so you're not going to do that. That's

714
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So that's issue one with the what the

715
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers did or didn't do, And that's why

716
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't really apply to the Buffalo Bills. If you're

717
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: sitting there and you've got and that quarterback is there,

718
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: well there's particularly at thirty or whatever number, you say,

719
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: why is he still there? Why you know nobody's given

720
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: up what you really think he's worth. I mean, that's

721
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: he's gonna make that call, and I you can say

722
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: what you want if you're not gonna you don't need

723
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: that player, and certainly you don't even want him to play,

724
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: like the Packers didn't want that guy to play in

725
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: the first round. I think it's absolutely stupid to make

726
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: that pick. What can I say? That's what I think.

727
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely ridiculous with your MVP quarterback about

728
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: to be MVP quarterback and you draft his replacement at

729
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: a spot in the draft where there's gotta be thirty

730
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: players that could have made a difference for you in

731
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: a year that you went to the AFC of the

732
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game thirty thirty guys could have made a

733
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: play lay here or there that put you over the

734
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: top and put you in a super Bowl thirty And

735
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: you pass on all of them to get a guy

736
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: that will hold a clipboard and cause all kinds of

737
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: dissension in your locker room. The best player on your

738
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: team is casting aspersions on your ability to do your job.

739
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: If let me just say this, if there was an

740
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: owner in Green Bay, all those guys would be out

741
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: the door. All of those guys would be out there

742
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: in the front office, in the front office, the GM,

743
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: the president, all of them, Yeah, all of them. They

744
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: moved up four spots they were at thirty, moved up

745
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: to twenty six to take Jordan Love two years ago.

746
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: So a four spot not a big one. I think

747
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: they gave up a fourth or a fifth to do

748
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: that and then took Jordan's Love. Who knew it would

749
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: be as costly as it is now. But that's where

750
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: the Packers sit. Eight oh three, oh five fifty. We'll

751
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: get back to the calls when we return. You're on

752
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Collot of Health. It's Buffalo

753
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. So Steve. I wanted to show this to

754
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: you because some of my neighbors, people I've run into

755
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: over the course of the weekend, saw this photo and said,

756
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Is that real? Somebody doctored this?

757
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: This is Greg Russo, Bill's first round pick meeting head

758
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean here at the Bill's

759
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: facility after he arrived in town. Care to take a

760
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: look at the hight differential here that we've got going on?

761
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: First and foremost, how does that strike you? All? I

762
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: think is our conversation about Star Wars. He looks he

763
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: looks like somebody from another planet. I mean, Greg Rousseau.

764
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: Can you see the angle of Sean mcdermottson that It

765
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: literally looks like Greg Russo is like has been photoshopped

766
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: from a different picture, doesn't it? Out of scale? That's

767
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: what people, every person, my neighbors, people I ran into

768
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: at the store that you know, saw me and knew

769
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: who I was there, just like, Hey, that photo of

770
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: Russo is that that's doc? That's not real? They doctor that.

771
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's what I understand. It's one hundred percent real.

772
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Now here's the other part of the photo, Steve, because

773
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: we talked about this on the show. Greg Russo has

774
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: eleven and one eighth inch hands, largest some of the

775
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: largest hands in the entire draft class. His hand is

776
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: essentially blocking out the entire skull of one Brandon Bean

777
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: in this photo photo. You can't even see Brandon's face

778
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: in this picture. Yeah, it is completely blocking. I mean

779
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: it's startling. It's like, you know, you almost it does

780
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: it looks it looks like a circus. Well, don't you

781
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: just feel like he could turn his hand like this

782
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: palm Brandon's head and pick him up like that like

783
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: a basketball. It is absolutely an unbelievable photograph. Unbelievable photograph.

784
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they literally looks like like

785
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: a Ripley's believe it or not photo. It doesn't look

786
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: like something from this world, folks. If you can't, if

787
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: you're not, if you were listening on radio, you gotta

788
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: go on online find it out that it's the bill.

789
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: It's Greg Russo meeting Sean McDermott and Russ and uh,

790
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean for the first time. You gotta see it.

791
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: This is a sad I hadn't seen it till they

792
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: just popped it up here. We'll he did that on

793
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: purpose for effect. But this is a size differential of

794
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: intergalactic proportions. It's just it is not right. Um now,

795
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: on a on a football field, he won't look like

796
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: this in terms of the other players that will be

797
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: around him, but he will still look big. I mean,

798
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: we remember when Tremaine Edmund's got here, Steve, he was

799
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: a helmet taller than everybody else in the Yeah, he stood.

800
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: Its gonna be the same thing with him. Yeah, that's

801
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That's pretty impressive. It's it's it really is.

802
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 1: It's it's so striking. It's humorous. I mean, I can't

803
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: help but laugh. It's I can't, you know. And I'm

804
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: way into the I'm way into the future from when

805
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I played, and I remember hanging all my friends. I

806
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: just used to give numb to how big they are.

807
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: And I always told you Ted Washington was one guy

808
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: that said I never got nothing. I stood next to him.

809
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: But one of the biggest humans right that. Greg Rousseau

810
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: would be another guy that you would say, he come

811
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: every day, no matter how often he's how much time

812
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: he's spend around him. He walks in the locker room's

813
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: card man. He is big and you'd say that every day,

814
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: big for one hundred and fifty days, and really really

815
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: really big, really big, crazy. So I wanted to show

816
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: that too because I knew you had. That's the amazing picture.

817
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: That's one that may be one of my favorite pictures

818
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: of the entire offseason this year. Somebody zoomed in on

819
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Russeau's hand on social media after this photo was out there.

820
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: They like cropped his hand and they're like, where's Brandon

821
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: question mark? And it's like his hand is blocking out almost.

822
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's too Sean mcdermot's hand compared to

823
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: but Russeau's hand. But if Russeau's hand is two inches higher,

824
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to identify the person standing behind it, right,

825
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: We'd have to guess if it was I mean, you'd

826
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: assume it was Brandon. But oh my gosh, unbelievable. Yeah,

827
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: that's I've said it. I said, they're gonna those guys

828
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: the bills, get off the bus at the stadium, walk

829
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: in the locker room. People are gonna be like, wow,

830
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: that that right there looks like a football team. And

831
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Spencer Browns an inch taller than him. Yeah, think about

832
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: that for a second. Yeah, and weighs more and eleven pounds,

833
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: weighs fifty pounds more, forty pounds more. Okay, and so

834
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: and the same thing with with Doyle. Yeah, Tommy Doyle, Tommy, Yeah,

835
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: and he weighs three twenty. He's fifty pounds more than

836
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: that guy. Get a load of these guys, dude. That's

837
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: a different world. Uh yeah, And it and and I'm

838
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: not living in it, never have, never will. It's and

839
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I and it's one of the it's a two edged

840
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: sword when I when I walk around places, I am

841
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: in just a Joe. I'm a Charlie bag of donuts?

842
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, who's the old guy over there? You know?

843
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: And it was the same way when I played rights

844
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: and these guys from this point four, if it hasn't

845
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: already started, which it probably has, particularly for the guys

846
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: that you know, University of Northern Iowa was you know,

847
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: and and University of Miami for Rousseau, oldest Miami University

848
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: for Dail, it's already begun. But everywhere they go, people

849
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: are gonna say, there's a there's a pro athlete right

850
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: there who is If they don't know. If they don't

851
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: recognize them, they're gonna know. They're gonna be like, I

852
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: wonder if I can go up and say hi and

853
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: get his autograph, because well it is you can't hide

854
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: or mighty break me in half. You cannot hide wherever

855
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: you go from now on. It's amazing to think about.

856
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: So I wanted we had to show that to you

857
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: just because I know. Yeah, it's an unbelievable photo. Right. Uh,

858
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones though. At eight oh

859
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty, Jeff and Buffalo is waiting patiently. Jeff,

860
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live.

861
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: Up we lost Yff. Okay, we can move along. We'll

862
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: go to Cannon Watertown, Ken. What do you have for us?

863
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Good afternoon, guys, Thanks for

864
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: taking my call. Sure, there's a couple of quick questions

865
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: and then I'll hear what you gotta say. Um, I'm

866
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: used to know. That is Tremaine Edmund's, Porter Poyer and

867
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: Tredavious White. Will those guys be back this year? Are

868
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: they still on the team? Yeah. White was signed to

869
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: a four year contract extension last year. Jordan Poyer was

870
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: signed to an extension two years ago, so he's locked

871
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: up for another year or two. And Tremaine Edmund's fifth

872
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: year option was just picked up yesterday. Good. I'm glad

873
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: to hear that because you know, I think there goes

874
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: three or probably one of the best in the in

875
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: the league, you know. And uh, I was just wanting

876
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: to make you just wanted to find out if they

877
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: were still law on the team or not. Yep, they

878
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: are one more thing. Yeah, in your own opinion, Give

879
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: it to me straight. How do you think the Bills

880
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: did on the draft? I liked it, ken I did.

881
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: I liked it a lot. I like I've been a

882
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: proponent in the lead up to the draft. I was

883
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: all about getting bigger and more competition on the offensive

884
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: line and their pass rush and the where their contracts

885
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: sit at that position on the defensive line, both a

886
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: defensive end, defensive tackle. They're gonna they've got a chance

887
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: of losing a lot of guys next year due to

888
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: getting out and really good guys, quality guys as well,

889
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: So they needed to refurbish that roster and give it

890
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 1: some depth and some competition and guys who they didn't

891
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: have to worry about gonna, you know, completely leaving the

892
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: cupboard bear in eight months. So I love the what

893
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: they did with the draft. I thought they did it

894
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: exactly right. I like the size and the type of

895
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: guys they got, both physically and where the guys are

896
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: as human beings. And the last end of the back

897
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: end of the draft, they got a couple of defensive

898
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: backs that I think are going to be able to

899
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: compete and a guy that might fill a hole that

900
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: we don't even know that we need yet, and that's

901
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: a kick returner utility man, kind of an Isaiah McKenzie

902
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: type of player. So I like where they hit. A

903
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: lot of people have a problem they didn't get a high,

904
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: top flight corner prospect in this draft, like drafted one

905
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: of the cornerbacks higher. But I believe the way they

906
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: have done it in the last three or four years

907
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: has proven to be really effective. Even though one of

908
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: their corners gets targeted a lot no matter who it is.

909
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: I think they're okay with that, and so am I.

910
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: So I like what they did with the draft. I

911
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: really do. I like the type of guys they got,

912
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: what their their strengths and weaknesses are perceived to be

913
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: at this early stage of their NFL career, and I

914
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: like the positional distribution that they did as well. So

915
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: there you go. We will take a break here, but

916
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: when we return from spot track, we will have one

917
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: Mike Janitty on hand to help us break down the

918
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: cost impact of the fifth year options that the Bills

919
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: picked up on both Tremaine Edmunds and on Josh Allen

920
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: and on the prospects of extension and how that can

921
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: impact the salary cap going into next year. We'll also

922
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: play Brandon Bean's comments on those fifth year options that

923
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: he had addressed this morning on WGR Radio for the

924
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: first time since the team took care of that stuff.

925
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: So we'll have all of that for you when we

926
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health,

927
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has

928
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

929
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role players for you, Steve, Steve

930
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the strated sphere of normalcy,

931
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: all right, Welcome to our number two of one Bills Live.

932
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: We don't want to waste any time. Joining us now

933
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: on the line, the founder of spot Track one of

934
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: the best salary cap financial sites you're gonna find, not

935
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: only for the NFL, but for all the pro sports leagues.

936
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: Mike Janetty joining us on the line as he has

937
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: several times and timely time to bring in Mike because

938
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: of the fifth year options that were presented to both

939
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds and to Josh Allen. Mike, thanks for giving

940
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: us some time. We appreciate it, my pleasure. Guys are

941
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: good to be back. So let's begin here. Let's start

942
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: with Brandon Bean's words exactly. He was on WGR this

943
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: morning with Howard and Jeremy, and here was his explanation

944
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: for the decision to pick up the fifty year options

945
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: for both Edmonds and Allen. The map has been very

946
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: hard here with because this new CBA, when we took

947
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: those guys back in eighteen, we would have been paying

948
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: Josh the projected rate was around eighteen million, and Tremaine

949
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: around nine million. We're talking twenty seven and the cap

950
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: was supposed to be, you know, if we don't have

951
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: the pandemic, the cap was supposed to be well into

952
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: the two hundreds, probably two fifteen to twenty. And so

953
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: you add the CBA change to where that eighteen draft

954
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: class became the class that's it's based on Pro Bowl

955
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: and various recognitions that you can increase your number. So

956
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Tremaine's number went from nine something to twelve eight and

957
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: Josh went from eighteen to twenty three, and so that's

958
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: a that's a big difference anyway, and then you add

959
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: the fact that the cap went the other way has

960
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: just made it, you know, a tighter constraint. So that's

961
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: probably the biggest thing that I needed to look at

962
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: internally here was if we cannot get either player extended,

963
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 1: I have to make sure I can handle basically thirty

964
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: six million in cap space. You can't do anything with

965
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: those numbers. So that was the hard this decision. Obviously,

966
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: we were going to pick up Josh, he's a franchise quarterback,

967
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: and we wanted to pick up Tremaines. We just need

968
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: to make sure that we could fit it in the

969
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: puzzle and and it will be tight. But we do

970
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: believe in him and excited that we know right now

971
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: we got those guys secured for the next two years

972
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: and hopefully beyond. So, Mike, the issue there that really

973
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: stands out is these are numbers that are locked in

974
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: and guaranteed by virtue of the fact that Edmonds and

975
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: Josh both made a Pro Bowl in their first three

976
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: years in the league, which locks those in. Not only that,

977
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: I think it puts him at the equivalent of the

978
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: transition tag. That's why a guy like Baker Mayfield's only

979
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: locked in at eighteen million for the Browns on a

980
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: fifth year option, but Josh Allen's twenty three. And you

981
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: can't massage and fiddle with these numbers like you can

982
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of other contracts. That's the rub here

983
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: right right. You can't. You can't push anything down the

984
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: road unless you're doing a multiyear extension. So that's exactly

985
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: what Brandon is speaking to there. It's about negotiating now,

986
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: and it's about trying to do what's best for both sides.

987
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: I think it's telling that he the word choice he

988
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: had with tremade Edmonds because I was under the impression,

989
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: just from my own personal opinion, that that fifth year

990
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: option for Edmonds was going to be kind of fifty

991
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: fifty because of the fact that you're putting thirty six

992
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: million against your guaranteed cap next year. You know, do

993
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: you slow play that and hope that a franchise tag

994
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: could maybe become the backup plan for that. But it's

995
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: about negotiations now, and you're talking about a cap that's low.

996
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: You're talking about twenty twenty three where things could you know,

997
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: really really explode in terms of financials in the NFL,

998
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's going to stop some agents, maybe even Josh

999
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: Allen's agents, from wanting to do a deal right now.

1000
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: Maybe the weight game is let's let's let the league

1001
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: come back to form financially and then we'll talk about

1002
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: a front moded, high impact cash deal. So I think

1003
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some complications with a lot of teams,

1004
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: not just the Bills, but certainly the Bills are in

1005
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a pickle here. Do you notice a

1006
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: season or a time of the calendar year where these

1007
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: deals tend to happen more so than other times. Yeah,

1008
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: it's a good question, and you know, it's sort of

1009
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: the work that I'm putting in right now. Now that

1010
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: the draft has settled, and you know, we're still in

1011
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: u dfa craze where there's a lot more you know,

1012
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: bodies coming onto rosters. This is the time to go

1013
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: back your roster and say, okay, now we gotta get

1014
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: ourself situated for September. Certainly got to get our training

1015
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: camp roster put together. And this year specifically because of

1016
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: the crunch, there's teams that have to work cap space out.

1017
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what the Bears did yesterday in

1018
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: releasing an offensive tackle a starter just for cap purposes.

1019
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: We're going to see more of that. But consequently, we're

1020
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: going to see extensions to lower captits this year, and

1021
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: that's I think where the Bills are right now. Let's

1022
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: just play one other comment from Brandon. This was on

1023
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: the feasibility of extending Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds before

1024
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: the start of the twenty twenty one season. Here's what

1025
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: Brandon said about that. I think there's ways to do it.

1026
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: I can't tell you it would definitely happen, and it's

1027
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: it's not easy to get them both under the cap.

1028
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: We may would have to, you know, make a roster move,

1029
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just convert some signing bonus for

1030
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: one of our other players to get it in. So

1031
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: there's some ways we could get creative if we're if

1032
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: we feel like there's a possibility to sign one or both,

1033
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: but we'll we'll just we'll see how that plays out,

1034
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, later into the summer. I'm thinking it's maybe

1035
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: one Mike, I'd be I'd be very pleasantly surprised, but

1036
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if it's both. Sure sounds that way,

1037
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: and I think the certainly the one he's pushing forward

1038
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: be Allen for a lot of reasons. I mean, you

1039
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: want to be able to get that that figured out now.

1040
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: You want to be able to sign it as long

1041
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: term as possible, so you can spread out what you

1042
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: need in terms of the cap for the next two years,

1043
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: because all indications is next year it could be just

1044
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: as bad as this year from a cap perspective, So

1045
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: you want to be able to play with Josh Allen's

1046
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: numbers as much as possible. And if you have to

1047
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: bring trying Edmund's fifth year option into next March, you

1048
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: can probably handle that. And look, he mentioned the restructure

1049
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: situation there. The Bills have done some of the least

1050
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: amount of restructuring of any team in this league right now.

1051
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: Only Tradevious White got a significant restructure this offseason so far,

1052
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: so there is room to do that. I mean, you can,

1053
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: you can maneuver Stefon digs a little bit. There's some

1054
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: some you know, Jordan Player's contract could be moved around

1055
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, even Dion Dawkins to some degree. So

1056
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: there's a couple of million dollars out there that you

1057
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: could restructure to fit some numbers in if both of

1058
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: these guys are willing to talk a big time deal

1059
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: right now. What if Josh Allen said, listen, I want

1060
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: to sign as team friendly of a deal as I can.

1061
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: Can you give us an example of a quarterback like

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Speaker 1: maybe Mahomes or what his contract looked like, or some

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Speaker 1: other quarterback that could sign a team friendly deal that

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Speaker 1: maybe not maybe had higher guarantees but won't kick in

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Speaker 1: until twenty twenty three kind of a year. Is there

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Speaker 1: a deal out there that even compare that? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're looking for, Steve. You're looking for that

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00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes situation that which really hasn't even kicked in yet.

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Speaker 1: I mean they restructured him this year and the big

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: money doesn't even start until that years. So the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: sort of sort of read the running on the wall

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Speaker 1: financially somehow with this contract before it even needed to happen.

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine that that's exactly the kind of

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Speaker 1: negotiating the brand of Beings doing right now. We want

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Speaker 1: you here long term. You know, we think six years

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Speaker 1: under contract makes a lot of sense something to that degree.

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Speaker 1: Maybe even eight if you want to do like a

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Speaker 1: mini version of the Mahomes deal and really have some flexibility,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's necessary now with the

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Speaker 1: impact of void years and restructures and things like that,

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Speaker 1: that becomes so prevalent foundationally. You're talking about it Deshaun

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: Watson's starting point, which is basically a four for one

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Speaker 1: sixty five sixty eight contract, and then if you need

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Speaker 1: extra years to maneuver this cap, that's when you start

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Speaker 1: talking six year extension with a signing bonus this year,

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Speaker 1: an option bonus next year, and really it's about keeping

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Speaker 1: the cap as low as possible this year. One thing

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01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: we've seen with quarterback contracts specifically is teams just aren't

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Speaker 1: afraid of deadcap anymore. I mean, everybody's getting restructured, everybody's

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Speaker 1: pushing down the line. There's no fear of having that

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Speaker 1: one big hit sometime four or five years down the

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Speaker 1: road because quite frankly, the job security for both players

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Speaker 1: and front offices just isn't there anymore. So you've got

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Speaker 1: to take care of the current situation. And signing Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen too as long as possible makes you at least

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Speaker 1: comfortable in that regard. There's just a part of me, though, Mike,

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Speaker 1: that wonders because you said, well, the agents may want

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Speaker 1: to wait on an extension, and I'm wondering there's really

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Speaker 1: a decision for Brandon and the bills to make here.

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Speaker 1: It's you're weighing getting him done and taken care of

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Speaker 1: now so you don't have to worry about it against

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Speaker 1: knowing cost certainty when you know what the CAP's gonna

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Speaker 1: be later on down the line. Usually December is when

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01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: they usually know, but this year that wasn't the case

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: because of the whole snaff food with the pandemic. So

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Speaker 1: I wonder if I wonder where they come down on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of side with you. They'd probably

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Speaker 1: want to get Alan done sooner in than later because

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: they know the cost is only going up anyway. But

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Speaker 1: there's a part of that too, because Brandon's brought it

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: up more than once. I mean, when he was talking

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Speaker 1: about the fifth year options, he was saying, well, you know,

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01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: we ultimately like to do an extension over a fifty

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Speaker 1: year option. He said, but if we get to early

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Speaker 1: May and we don't know if we're gonna have full

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01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: stadiums yet, I'm probably gonna have to pull the trigger

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Speaker 1: on the option and just bide my time until we

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01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: know fans in the stands okay, ticket revenue is going

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01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: to be back what it used to be, and now

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Speaker 1: we have a better sense as we can project the

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Speaker 1: cap better if we know that, and because they can't,

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Speaker 1: he went back to the failsafe of the fifth year

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Speaker 1: option here. I'm just curious. There's so many moving parts here.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder where they're going to come down on

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Speaker 1: that ultimately. Yeah, it's a great point. The unknown has

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Speaker 1: got to be unbelievably uncomfortable for the Bills front office

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01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: right now, especially when you've got a situation where there's

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Speaker 1: going to be upwards one hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: shelled out here soon. I think having exercise both fifth

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Speaker 1: year options though, is not just a financial move. It's

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Speaker 1: a good faith move. It's a good look for the

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Speaker 1: organization for players to come in for you know, next

1133
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: round of draft picks that, hey, if you perform, you know,

1134
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: none of these numbers. I mean you heard him say

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01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: that there's eight million more there than he thought there

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01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: was going to be in these fifth year options. And

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01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: they still went and exercise them, meaning they'll take them

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01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: on if they have to. That's a good faith move

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01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: for both of those players and the entire organization, even

1140
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: if you can't get these extensions done. Look, structurally, speaking

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01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, you know, we have seen the okay

1142
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: and the not okay with quarterback contracts over the past

1143
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: couple of months here, and I'm talking Carson Wentz versus

1144
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. There's a there's a right and a wrong

1145
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: way to structure contracts right now from a team perspective,

1146
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: and certainly the Jared Goff situation looks better than the

1147
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz situation in terms of what had to happen.

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01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: So with the unknown, the way I spin it out

1149
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: is okay, then we're not going to go a lot

1150
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: of big bonuses here. We're gonna go big base salaries,

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01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: which still gives Josh the ability to make a lot

1152
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: of cash upfront, but it's going to give the bills

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01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: the most amount of flexibility if the twenty twenty two

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: cap isn't where he thinks it's going to be, and

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Speaker 1: even if the twenty twenty three cap doesn't come in

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01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: quite as high as we want it to be either,

1157
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: you've got to give yourself as much opportunity to move

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01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: cap down the line as possible. And then I think

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: you can make everybody happy. Walk Chris and I through

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Speaker 1: and our listeners through the rookie pool draft, pickpool how

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01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: that works and what the kind of what kind of

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01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: cap each player will get it will hit the club with,

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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: because even now none of these guys have signed a contract,

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01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: but it's fairly easy and you've done it on spot

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: track to project what they're probably gonna get in the

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Speaker 1: ballpark because you know what the pool says. Can explain

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Speaker 1: to us how you're able to do that? Yeah, sure,

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01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: So you know it's it's kind of a mathematical calculation.

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: And what we found out just prior to the draft

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Speaker 1: is that basically that rookie wage scale increased about one

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Speaker 1: percent over last years, which is actually that's a good

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01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: faith moved by the league because with the cap dropping,

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01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: they could they could have gone the other way with this.

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: So the rookies did get a bit of an ecuy

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: increase over last year's a rookie class. All said and done,

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01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: with the Bills, you're looking at about seven point five

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Speaker 1: million in total cap. That's at the end of the

1178
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: season total cap. But because the offseason works a little differently,

1179
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: it works with the top fifty one cap hits on

1180
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: your roster. The Bills really only need to allocate about

1181
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: three point six million dollars of cap space for the

1182
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: next six months or so to get them into the

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Speaker 1: regular season. That's all cap hits. That's if they sign

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01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: every player and keep them on the roster through September.

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01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: So there's not much room that needs to really happen

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01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: to get everybody here and everybody into training camp. So

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Speaker 1: I expect that not to be a problem. It's it's

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01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: more about these extensions for the Big two, and maybe

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Speaker 1: a couple more that Brandon being real is going to

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01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: have to maneuver a local for and Mike. With that

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01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: in mind, you know, looking ahead to twenty twenty two

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01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: and then heck even beyond, we're looking at a situation here,

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: assuming there's a Josh Allen extension in place before the

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01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season, where the dynamics of the roster

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: and the financial investments are going to have to change dramatically.

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 1: This team is very heavily weighted on the defensive line

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 1: in terms of money and a couple other spots. That's

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Speaker 1: going to have to change dramatically with the Josh Allen extension,

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Speaker 1: to the point where people are like, why did they

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Speaker 1: take two pass rushers in the draft because they're gonna

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01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: need them next year. Because there's a good chance Jerry

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Speaker 1: Hughes is not on this roster in twenty twenty two.

1203
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: Same thing for Mario Addison, maybe even Star Latoulay. So

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01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of change coming down the pike once

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: the Allen extension hits right, there's no question I think

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01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: it's possible that one of those names doesn't doesn't make

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one roster because of it. I mean,

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01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: I think they're bringing in some of those high picks

1209
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: this training camp to see what they have to see

1210
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: if they can possibly move on from one of those

1211
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: heavier cap hits right now and save themselves a little

1212
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: bit now to roll over the next year. So that's

1213
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Speaker 1: in play. Look, I've applauded him before for this I'm

1214
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Speaker 1: going to say it in this regard as well. Brandon

1215
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: Bean has been very very good at staggering And it's

1216
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: not just staggering the big time veteran extensions, which is

1217
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: a very smart way to operate, but it's also staggering

1218
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: the positional acceptances of draft picks and udfa's. When you

1219
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: look at what he's bringing in right now, it's calculated.

1220
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Speaker 1: You just mentioned it, Chris. Last year was about wide

1221
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: receivers and weapons and running backs. This year it's clearly

1222
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: about that defensive line, and it's not so much of

1223
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: a need right now, but it's a need for financial

1224
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: purposes going forward. And that's really how you can see

1225
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: that the wheels are churning in the front office up

1226
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: there right now. It's looking not too far ahead because

1227
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: that can get dangerous. It's not how sports operates anymore.

1228
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: It's about two to three years. But there is a

1229
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: staggering purpose to what Brandon Bean has done, both with

1230
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: free agent acquisitions and with draft selection. All over the league.

1231
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about the relationship between the Green Bay Packers

1232
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, and we've been you know, people are

1233
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: bandoning about the other quarterbacks that have made some waves

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: this offseason, like Russell Wilson is Seattle and how that

1235
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: relationship has soured a little bit, and Aaron Rodgers in

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01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: green Bay. What are the financial ramifications if of Aaron

1237
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers and the green Bay Packers and Russell Wilson with

1238
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. We've heard people say, why don't those

1239
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: teams just switch quarterbacks? They're both really good to me,

1240
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: and I was looking at it. Their contracts are identical

1241
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: with one exception, Russell Wilson has a no trade. He's

1242
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: never gonna go to green Bay. But that's what kind

1243
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: of what people are talking about, the financial ramifications of

1244
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: trading one for another or almost identical because those guys

1245
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: signed their deals and extensions kind of along the same

1246
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: time frame. You're right, you know, And I've had that

1247
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of bar conversation myself because it is fun to

1248
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: think about it, especially it never happens in the NFL.

1249
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: I never see big time player for player trades like that,

1250
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: so it's certainly fun to think about. Contractually speaking, Aaron

1251
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers has been restructured, so there's a bit of a

1252
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: dead cap hit. It's going to be somewhat significant. So

1253
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: if he's gonna go. It's gonna be after June first,

1254
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: when you can split that up a little bit and

1255
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: make it at least tenable for the packers. Russell Wilson

1256
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: kind of similar boat. It's about. They both have about

1257
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: thirty nine million dollars of deadcap, and certainly that means

1258
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: next year is going to hurt a little bit deadcap wise.

1259
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: But look, you know, I don't know if Jordan loves

1260
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: an adequate replacement. I don't know. I know Seattle doesn't

1261
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: have an adequate replacement right now. So the contracts say

1262
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: no to me, and the rosters also say no to

1263
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: me right now. So I think the teams are both

1264
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: gonna put their foot down and kind of hold at

1265
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: it right now, and it's gonna take some kind of

1266
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: offer to really make them think hard about it. The

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Speaker 1: last one I had for you, Mike, and we're talking

1268
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: with managing editor and founder of spot Track, Mike Genitty

1269
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: on with us. And last one I had for you,

1270
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: Mike was I was surprised at the guaranteed money that

1271
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: was getting shelled out for undrafted's on Sunday. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know, the cost of doing business goes up every

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Speaker 1: year in the NFL, but for undrafted and what was

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Speaker 1: perceived to be a very thin draft pool to begin with,

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Speaker 1: just based on sheer numbers these, I was stunned. Is

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Speaker 1: it was that supply and demand because the pool is

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Speaker 1: so thin, people will We're willing to pay more for undrafted.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on that? I was curious. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a nice it's a nice topic to bring up right now.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly topical. And listen that the amount of UDF

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Speaker 1: phase that are not only making rosters but making starting

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Speaker 1: lineups has been exponentially increasing over the past five years,

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Speaker 1: to the point of where last year, on average, there

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01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: were five week one starters per team per team across

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Speaker 1: like a thirty man starting lineup if you're including the

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Speaker 1: special teams, which is a big part of this of course.

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Speaker 1: So it is there is a bit of a chaotic

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: bidding war for for many of these names, and you've

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01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: got one hundred and sixty thousand dollars to spend from

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: a signing bonus perspective, but there's no cap on how

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01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 1: much you can guarantee in terms of that first base salary.

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Speaker 1: So that's where you're seeing a lot of these numbers

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Speaker 1: come in. You're seeing you know, upwards of one hundred,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thou of that minimum salary being

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Speaker 1: fully guaranteed to some of these players just because they think, hey,

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Speaker 1: not only you make them the fifty three come September,

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01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: there's a chance you're a week one or maybe even

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Speaker 1: a week eight starter for us, because if we can

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Speaker 1: turn a five million dollar cap hit into a seven

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01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars cap hit, especially right now and next year,

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Speaker 1: it's going to benefit us a ton. And that's one

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: of the spots they can do that is when they've

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 1: got professional special teams players out there who are veteran

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01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: guys who are doing them. They get a guy to

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01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: come in who all of a sudden is a little

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: fresher and a little a little faster and a little

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01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: more eager to make the team. That's an easy switch

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: out for guys who are going to cover kickoffs that

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01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: don't get returned on you know, seventy five percent of

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Speaker 1: the time. Anyway, it seems like a niche that is

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Speaker 1: starting to get get well. Whichever niche you're looking at,

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,480
Speaker 1: either veterans special teams player or younger guys who realize

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Speaker 1: they can find a living in the NFL as a

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Speaker 1: special team or that niche is increasing, I think, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. I agree, and look,

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Speaker 1: we saw a whole bunch of long snappers get drafted

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Speaker 1: in those late rounds as well. Similar conversation. You know,

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Speaker 1: can you play on kickoffs? Are you also a long

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Speaker 1: snapper that can stick for ten to twelve years? Great,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a six round pick with a fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars bonus and everybody's happy, right, Yeah, right? One

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Speaker 1: of my favorite long snappers it was drafted Cameron Cheeseman.

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Speaker 1: Great name. So Shami didn't get your drafted by Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: That was the only shame of it. Mike, as always,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the time and the expertise. We'll keep our

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Speaker 1: eyes peeled on spottrack dot com for sure going forward.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for all the help. Thanks Mike, Right, pleasure guys,

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Speaker 1: bee ball. All right, that's Mike Jenny, managing editor and

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Speaker 1: founder of spottrack dot com. You want to know more

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Speaker 1: about the numbers and dive into salaries and bonuses and

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Speaker 1: cap hits and dead cap not just for the NFL,

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Speaker 1: he does NBA, Major League Baseball, and h I mean

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Speaker 1: he does it all. So whatever you're interested in, you

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: can go there and pretty much find it great site

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Speaker 1: as a reference. We are going to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're gonna get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet about what you feel will be

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Speaker 1: the biggest impact from this year's Bills draft classes. Your

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Speaker 1: choices are there for you at one Bills Live. Weigh

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Speaker 1: in on the tweet sheet now, we'll get to your

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Speaker 1: responses when we come back here on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Because anybody collid to health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: back to one Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Second

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01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: half of the show under way here on a Tuesday,

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: where we're asking you what will be the biggest impact

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Speaker 1: from this year's Bills draft class. Choices are there for

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Speaker 1: you on Twitter at one Bills Live. You can also

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Speaker 1: give us a call E three oh five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty open line for

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Speaker 1: you there. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Ryan

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Speaker 1: leads us off today by choosing other, we're leading off

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Speaker 1: with an other. Steve, on the choices, Bills were number

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Speaker 1: two for pass rush win rate and middle of the

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Speaker 1: pack for sacks last season. We should be more effective

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: capitalizing on the pass rush by increasing sacks. Well, why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't he Why wouldn't he pick the pass rush then?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that one of the choices? Yeah, I don't know

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01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: what are we doing that. I've heard a lot of

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days about the Bills were number

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Speaker 1: two in the league and pass rush win rate. Yeah, careful,

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: you gotta don't say that fast. You get all crossed up.

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Speaker 1: I sound like Elmer fudd Win. I don't try to

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Speaker 1: say it too fast. Yeah, they were middle of the

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Speaker 1: pack and getting sacks. That's the stat Yeah, win rate,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I will say this though, Steve, this crossed

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Speaker 1: my mind. Even if let's say Greg Rousseau finishes his

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Speaker 1: rookie season with four sacks, but he has eighteen batted passes,

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Speaker 1: there's a value there because you're it's not a loss

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Speaker 1: of yardage, but it's loss it down. Yeah, no, it's

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Speaker 1: an incomplete pass. You know. Now it's second down, Now

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01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: it's third down. Or now it's fourth down. I mean

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Speaker 1: him putting his arms up in the air at six seven,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna they're gonna be nine and a half feet

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Speaker 1: in the air. Who's thrown over that. No corner you'll

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Speaker 1: ever draft will have eighteen defense batted passes. No, So

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Speaker 1: I get that. Yeah, certainly there's a value there. There

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01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: is a value there, absolutely. Um. If it happens, it's

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Speaker 1: a big number. It is a big numbers. I think

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Speaker 1: Shack his last year here in Buffalo led the team

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Speaker 1: and badded pass. I want to say he had eight

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Speaker 1: or nine. Yeah, I think the least record for a

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Speaker 1: season is like barely ten or twelve maybe, But Whossau

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Speaker 1: is like a condor with those arms. Yeah. Yes, there

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: there's more than one way to get to win a

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Speaker 1: defensive snap. Yeah, other than getting a sack, no question

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Speaker 1: about it, and a batted pass. Certainly, it'd be even

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Speaker 1: better if it was tipped and intercepted. But us, you know,

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Speaker 1: strip all that stuff counts. But we're you know, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about getting to the quarterback and affecting him. Anytime

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Speaker 1: you do that, it's a win. And if you can

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01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: back the ball down, that's fine. If if you can

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: defend defend the pass at the front end instead of

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: the back end of the defense, that's fine as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna have to evaluate the Bill's

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Speaker 1: pass rush really as a as a whole. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be back like back in the old days when

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Speaker 1: Bruce had seventeen and a half and the team was,

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Speaker 1: you know, top ten or top five in the league.

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: I I think it's going to be a group effort.

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01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: You're going to be a get a bunch of guys.

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01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: They're all going to be rotating through your all. And

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Speaker 1: I think this too, and a lot of people don't.

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01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: I don't think they Bills coaching staff gets enough credit

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01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: for the fact that they tinker with that rotation constantly. Yeah, well,

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: they certainly did last year, and I think they do

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Speaker 1: that trying to up the production. You know, if if

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Speaker 1: they got four guys that are feeling get them out

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Speaker 1: there and put them out there. If they got a

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Speaker 1: combination that's working in practice, give it a shot. If

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Speaker 1: Rousseau's working better on the right side on the three technique,

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Speaker 1: put him there, or on the left side three technique,

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01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: put him there, that kind of stuff. So I'm they

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Speaker 1: don't get enough credit for it. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are, you know, they're used to the old

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Speaker 1: days of having four guys and those are the four

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Speaker 1: guys you have on the field. That's not the case

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Speaker 1: these days. And I like it better the way the

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Speaker 1: Bills are doing it these days. And so I'm we're

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Speaker 1: a long way from being able to evaluate how a

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Speaker 1: different what a different pass rush the Bills are going

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Speaker 1: to have this year, but I like the steps they've

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Speaker 1: taken to try and improve it. Trying to improve it

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Speaker 1: From Jack on the tweet sheet, it's predominantly depth. By

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Speaker 1: most accounts, Rousseau will need to add some weight and

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Speaker 1: adjust after a year off. Offensive linemen are small school

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: tackles and with set starters here there's depth. Same with

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Speaker 1: the DBS. Stevenson and Boogie are the exceptions. Number five

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Speaker 1: as a kick returner and weapon, and number ninety six

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Speaker 1: has a unique skill as a pass rusher. That's from Jack.

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Speaker 1: I got a question. Did Sean or Brandon say something

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Speaker 1: about Rousseau having to gain weight? No, they did not,

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Speaker 1: And I think this kind of opinion, like Jack has,

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01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: stems from watching him on film at Miami. Now, Brandon

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01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: Bean made the point that the film everybody's watching in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Gregor Russo's two hundred and forty five pounds

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01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: in that film, he's two sixty six. Now he's added

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01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: twenty pounds. He's twenty pounds heavier than he looks in

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Speaker 1: the video that the MSG people are looking at. Now

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01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: twenty pounds heavier. This guy didn't become a couch potato.

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01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: In the year that he opted out. He went to

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Speaker 1: work and added twenty pounds to his frame, which is

1444
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: still filling out. I mean, when you think about it,

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01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: he might be a two hundred and seventy five pound

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01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: pass rusher by the time time he's done and still

1447
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 1: look lean. That's yeah, And I get it. The guy's

1448
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: six seven plus, so he's gonna and he's he's gonna

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01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: look lean because he just turned twenty one. So I'm yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I ask, Well, he's two sixty five, two

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Speaker 1: sixty six, and in this film you're watching, he's two

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Speaker 1: forty five. I don't know that they're gonna the perfect

1453
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: pass rush weight for him or the perfect playing weight

1454
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: for him. I don't know that the Bills have decided

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: on that they're gonna look at him on film. They're

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01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: gonna watch him in workouts, and I'll say this, it

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: may that may be the reason the twenty pounds. Maybe

1458
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: the reason he performed at his pro day a little

1459
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: differently than people thought he might, because he's not used

1460
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: to carrying it around in that kind of a fashion,

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Speaker 1: particularly with the adrenaline pump you get for a pro day. Right.

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: We had his head coach at Miami, Manning diaz On

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Speaker 1: earlier in the week, and I asked him that very question,

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Speaker 1: What do you think his ideal playing weight is for

1465
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: the NFL level? And he said somewhere between two sixty

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Speaker 1: five and two seventy. So he's there, at least in

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: the eyes of his college head. Maybe that's why he's there. Yeah,

1468
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: where the Bills feel he should be at could be

1469
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: something different. We'll find out soon enough, I would think

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Speaker 1: when we get to training camp. Tiffany on the tweet,

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01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: Chet says both draft picks add solid depth to the

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01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: d line. They have the potential to push for snaps,

1473
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: creating competition with Epinsa and Johnson. In my opinion, Jerry

1474
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: Hughes still has a lot to give and is still

1475
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: our top defensive lineman. We should have a solid and

1476
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: versatile rotation upfront, which goes to what you were speaking

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01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: about a few minutes ago. I think we're kind of

1478
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: in the same spot we were last year at this

1479
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: time when they've signed Butler Addison, and Butler Addison and

1480
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: the other free agent Jefferson and twinin Jefferson, we didn't

1481
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: know what we had in those guys. We certainly could

1482
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 1: go back and watch film and watch him play, but

1483
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: we didn't know how they were going to interact with

1484
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: aj and we didn't know we had what aj Epins

1485
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: was going to bring either. So you know, you had

1486
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: five new guys in this rotation, plus Harrison was back

1487
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: in the lineup after missing all of twenty nineteen with

1488
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,799
Speaker 1: a knee injury, So you had a lot of guys

1489
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: who had not played in a while and then had

1490
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: never played together. And we're new to the system, so

1491
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: you didn't know what you were gonna get. I think

1492
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: you're kind of in that same boat again this year.

1493
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: You got a couple of new draft picks, and you

1494
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how they're going to acclimate and how

1495
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna mix it up with the guys that they're

1496
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: playing with. You know, you subtract tent Trent Murphy, you

1497
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: subtract Quentin Jefferson, you add in, you know, Carlos Basham,

1498
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: and you add in Greg Rousseau. You know, you got

1499
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: a different group all of a sudden, and so I

1500
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: think we're back right back to where we were last year. However,

1501
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: I think they're at least going to get some preseason

1502
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: games under their belt and some live reps and more

1503
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: preparation on the field than they got last year. So

1504
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: perhaps this team, this defensive front, will you know, take

1505
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: off a little faster than they did last year. Jeremy

1506
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of along the same lines. Pass rush should be

1507
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 1: definitely improved, maybe not perfect, but improved. Not sure if

1508
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: the rookies will be Day one starters or not, but

1509
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: at least they should provide great rotational dependability. Yeah, that's right,

1510
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Max says. I don't know if you'll see the offensive

1511
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: lineman from this draft class cause a large impact until

1512
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: next season. I'd say B is the most likely to

1513
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: happen this season, which is the pass rush, and C

1514
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: is something we hopefully don't need to test. Team depth

1515
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: was the choice. C A might be the answer for

1516
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: next season. What did you think about Mike Janitti saying

1517
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: and alluding to the fact that maybe some of these

1518
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: young players like Rousseau and like Basham could make expendable

1519
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: some of the guys that are here with higher I

1520
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: think that's a very real positi. I think competition is competition.

1521
01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: If they lighted up in training camp, Steve and they say, okay,

1522
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: we've got you know, Russo Basham and Epinessa are not

1523
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: going anywhere they're on the roster. If Epinessa comes on

1524
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,839
Speaker 1: like a house on fire in his second year, Rousseau

1525
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: flashes and bash him flashes, I don't know if you're

1526
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: keeping Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison one of those guys

1527
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: that could be off the roster, because if if you

1528
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,560
Speaker 1: think those three guys are good enough to play for

1529
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: you and win for you, you may And then you've

1530
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: got your four and then your backup is is Darryl Johnson,

1531
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 1: who helps you on special teams and is probably still

1532
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: active on game day. And I'm gonna mention this Steve,

1533
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: which I don't think we've touched on. Boogie Basham has

1534
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: special team's ability too. You know, he was on the

1535
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: kickoff team at wake Ye kickoff coverage. It gives you something.

1536
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: That's how Darrell Johnson stayed on the team and made

1537
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: and and contributed on a on a game by game basis.

1538
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: He was out there on that. You've got guys, you know,

1539
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: the top of the roster, a defensive end starts with

1540
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: you know, Mario Addison and Jerry Hughes. And I think

1541
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: there's you know, Jerry Hughes you can't get I mean,

1542
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: I was hard pressed Mario, Right, Mario, maybe they would

1543
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: save about three million bucks three point three million if

1544
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: they if they released Mario. I don't know if that's

1545
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, And let's yeah, let's go back to the

1546
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: extensions we were just talking about with Mike JENITTI right.

1547
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why he brought that subject up to

1548
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: begin with, because that might be the extra two three

1549
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: million in need. I mean, it sounds like a small

1550
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: amount of money when you're talking about a contract extension

1551
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: for somebody like Josh Allen, but it might give you

1552
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: just enough room to squeeze her in before you get

1553
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: to September, as opposed to wait until the off season

1554
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: and then it gets a little stick could potentially get

1555
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: a little sticky. Yeah, then the clock starts sticking, right,

1556
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, I get it. But there that's what you

1557
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: don't know. And and also you think about it too.

1558
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: It could happen on the other side of the ball

1559
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: as well, the offensive line. If you get the two

1560
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: guys come in and all of a sudden they're playing great,

1561
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: they cost what ten percent of what you're paying those

1562
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: other guys like like Feliciano, like Darryl Williams, like whoever else,

1563
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: And you got these two kids that are playing and

1564
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: playing extremely well, and they're getting in the preseason games

1565
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: and they're still doing really well. Then you got then

1566
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: you gotta like, yeah, think about if it's competition, that's

1567
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: a possibility. A Spencer Brown could possibly be your starting

1568
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: rank tackle and Tommy Doyle's your swing tackle, and now

1569
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams as your starting rank guard right or you're

1570
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: starting left guard. You know what I mean, because he's

1571
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: played there, right, we're almost half his career. If you're

1572
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: gonna get your best five on the field, and your

1573
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: best five is two guys different than it was last year,

1574
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: there's an issue there. You got a problem. I don't

1575
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: it's a good problem though, Yeah it is, it is.

1576
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: But it's like always you have to say good you know,

1577
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: you have to start thinking about saying goodbye to some

1578
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: guys who have served you well. I would say this,

1579
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: with the current structure of his contract, Mitch Morse, you

1580
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: can't get rid of him. He costs you more than

1581
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: he does. If you get rid of cost more to

1582
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: get rid of him. Right his dead cap number would

1583
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: be ten point six. Right now his cap hits only

1584
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: six point three. So he's not going anywhere Nope. So

1585
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: it will be interesting. It'll be a fun competition at

1586
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: training camp, for sure. We have to take a break here,

1587
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: but when we come back, I'm going to throw a

1588
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: little soccer news at Steve because the soccer world is

1589
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: colliding with the American football world and it involves the

1590
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: owners of the Buccaneers. We'll explain when we return here

1591
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Collid to Health, It's

1592
01:26:53,320 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Line, First

1593
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: Rounds League Tasker, and here to talk now about the

1594
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: European soccer world colliding with the NFL world. Because the

1595
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: Glaziers who own the Tampa Bay Buccaneers also own Manchester United,

1596
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: which was the club that experienced some protest invasion of

1597
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 1: sorts at their stadium. Fans are still not allowed inside

1598
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: the stadium to attend games. There have been some times

1599
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: where the infection rate has gone down to the point

1600
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: where they've allowed some fans in during portions of the season,

1601
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: but right now stadiums closed to fans to watch games

1602
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: in the English Premier League. But there were a lot

1603
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: of fan protests in the wake of the Super League

1604
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: announcement and fans successfully tamp that down and forced all

1605
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: the English clubs to back out of the twelve team agreement.

1606
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: And so now they're kind of feeling their oats a

1607
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: little bit about the power they enacted on their respective clubs,

1608
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 1: and they took it a step further. They are demanding

1609
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: that the Glaziers sell Manchester United and sell it to

1610
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: an owner that's going to do right by the fans

1611
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: they are. They're done with the Glaziers. So they're protesting

1612
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: outside the stadium on Saturday, and then let's just say,

1613
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: there's a lot of drinking going on in the street

1614
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: there and they decide they're going to storm the stadium,

1615
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: which is closed right now to fans. So they find

1616
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: some entry point and It's about two hours before the

1617
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: game between Manchester United and Liverpool at said stadium. Some

1618
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: fans run onto the field. They're kicking some of the

1619
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: balls around that the players are going to be using

1620
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: during warmups. The stadium has about twelve stewards they call them,

1621
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: which are essentially security and they're not very effective, shall

1622
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: we say, well agably seventy or eighty So wisely they're

1623
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: trying to shepherd them back up the steps and say hey,

1624
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: it can't be here. You're gonna you know, I don't

1625
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: know what they said, but they get them to get

1626
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: off the field at least, but they hang around and

1627
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: mill about in the stadium until about eight or nine

1628
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: police officers show up and then they finally leave. Then

1629
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: there's a second wave they come back in again. I mean,

1630
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: it was the worst, the worst policing I've ever seen

1631
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: in a stadium. So they're lighting off, you know, fire

1632
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: flares and all this other stuff. They're protesting outside. They're

1633
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: doing flash bangs to disperse the crowd. I mean, it

1634
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: got it got a little ugly. Then they went to

1635
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: social media and Manchester United fans we're tweeting their displeasure

1636
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: to the people who they thought were the owners of

1637
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 1: Manchester United the Glazier family. Problem was they were tweeting

1638
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: at Fox Sports. In NFL insider Jay Glazer, who had

1639
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: tons of vitriol, speuted him thinking these people were thinking

1640
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: they were tweeting at the Glazier family owners and JA.

1641
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 1: He tried to say, listen, I'm not the guy, I'm

1642
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: not part of the family at all. That they wouldn't

1643
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 1: listen to him. So finally he says, Okay, you're right,

1644
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: I'm selling the team. Yeah. Yeah. Just to be clear,

1645
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: this is what Jay Glazer tweeted after he found about

1646
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: two thousand emails or two thousand tweets in his at

1647
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: in his mentions box, he said, for the thousandth time,

1648
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: as I woke up to all this stuff sent my

1649
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: way on social media, my family is from Brooklyn, not Tampa.

1650
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: We do not own man You. We can't sell because

1651
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: we don't own it. You can't be that good a

1652
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: fan of them if you think an NFL insider owns

1653
01:30:55,560 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: your team. So Jay Glazier had finally had enough and

1654
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: tweeted back at all these people who were misguided to

1655
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: say the least in terms of or expressing their desire. Yeah,

1656
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: or that to the Glazer family to sell the team.

1657
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Joel and Avram Glazer owned Manchester United. They have been

1658
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: asked by their fans, and we should mention over in Europe,

1659
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot of these clubs started with members support, like

1660
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,839
Speaker 1: people in their town would kick in money to support

1661
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: the club when they really didn't have an ownership. They

1662
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: had a board, and then you know, fast forward, you know,

1663
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 1: sixty seventy eighty years later, one hundred years later, now

1664
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: you have owners with the pockets who own these clubs

1665
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: and kind of make unilateral decisions that sometimes rub fans

1666
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: the wrong way. And the historic feeling is, well, we're

1667
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: still members of this club, we support you, we give

1668
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: you money, just the way they hundred years ago. It's

1669
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 1: a little different dynamic now, but they don't see it

1670
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: that way. It's kind of like the Green Bay Packers

1671
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: in a way community owned that they see it that way,

1672
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 1: so they feel they should have a greater say in

1673
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: what their team does and how it conducts business. It's

1674
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: a little it's a little it's a little offt to

1675
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: be frank, because that's not the way it is works anymore.

1676
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: It's a big business. It's like the NFL in many

1677
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: ways some ways it's not. But they were able to

1678
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: shoot down the Super League in the span of three days.

1679
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: And so now you got some of these fans saying,

1680
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 1: we don't like you as an owner because you wanted

1681
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 1: to sell out and go to the Super League. Sell

1682
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: the team. Now the Glazers have been interested in selling it.

1683
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: They want to sell it for four point two billion

1684
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: dollars and they're probably not getting that price, so they're

1685
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to come down considerably if they want to

1686
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: sell it. But that's where it is, and that's how

1687
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: misguided some of these rapid fans are. Over there. The

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01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 1: headline in the Sun, which is one of the biggest

1689
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: abloids in London double glazing Man United fans target the

1690
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: wrong Glazer as NFL insider Jay forced to deny owning

1691
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: the club for the thousandth time on Twitter. I mean,

1692
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: in their defense, he's a bald guy, and both Glazers

1693
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: are bald guys. But that's where it very quickly beginning

1694
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: to see a blue check mark and they think that's

1695
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: gotta be gotta be him. Yeah, of course he's an

1696
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: NFL insider, he's an owner. You know, I could see

1697
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: them kind of exactly that logic. After yeah, after one

1698
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: pint too many? That what a hell? Who cares? You know? What?

1699
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 1: What have you? You know? What have you got to

1700
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: really know? The blue check mark. I'm angry, and I'm

1701
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna let you know whether you're the right person or not.

1702
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna feel my wrath, justifie my rath. Oh man,

1703
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: I just that was too good not to bring up,

1704
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: so I just wanted to share that with you. Ja

1705
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 1: poor j Glazier, the target of vitriol uh from Manchester,

1706
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: United Fans of all people. We have to take a

1707
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: break here. When we return, we are going to break

1708
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,839
Speaker 1: down the draft choices of the Bills from last weekend

1709
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 1: with one Greg Cosell, who has seen film on just

1710
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: about every one of them, backwards and forwards. I've got

1711
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:20,919
Speaker 1: an interesting question for him in terms of how Boogie

1712
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 1: and Rousseau are going to fit together on the same

1713
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: defensive line as rookies. We'll get to that when we

1714
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 1: return with NFL Films, Great Cosell. Next on One Bill's Live,

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01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio at

1716
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

1717
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: Kind of unique he was kind of a dual role

1718
01:34:54,280 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

1719
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy here. Were welcome to

1720
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: our number three of a Tuesday edition of One Bills Live.

1721
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we will waste

1722
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: no time and bringing in a man to help us

1723
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: break down the draft class of your Buffalo Bills. It

1724
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: is the senior producer from NFL Films, one Greg Cosell,

1725
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: joining us who was busy taking in the draft this

1726
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 1: past weekend. Greg, how are you doing, Chris Steve, how

1727
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: are you guys doing? We're doing great. Thanks, thanks for

1728
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: coming on earlier in the week. We didn't wait. We

1729
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: want to wait till Friday because by then this draft

1730
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 1: is gonna be like, you know, completely old and stale.

1731
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 1: So by then we're doing mock drafts exactly. There are

1732
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: some people that do that the next day and we're

1733
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: gonna and we've got grades on this draft as well.

1734
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: We i mean, everybody's got projecting how these drafts are,

1735
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, gonna how the players are gonna pan out. Everything.

1736
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: We've all got it figured out now that we know

1737
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: who's who, so for sure, for sure. Yeah, I know

1738
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: exactly how next year's draft is going to play out, right,

1739
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: So let's begin here, Greg, because this was something that

1740
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: I was wondering about and I'm curious to get your

1741
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: take on it. So we know that both Greg Russo

1742
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: and Carlos bash Him Boogie Basham as he wants to

1743
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: be called. We've learned they're not bend the edge, flatten

1744
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: out pass rushers. They're more power guys or speed to power,

1745
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And Brandon Bean said

1746
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: over the weekend he sees them both as left defensive

1747
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: ends as their first position. How does that work here

1748
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: with the blood of players you now have, It's well,

1749
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: that might be a question for Brandon be Yeah, whose

1750
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: investment portfolio is probably a little larger than mine, so

1751
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: that would be a good question for him. But you know,

1752
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: as we discussed, I guess when I was on Chris

1753
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: with you and Maddy the other night during the draft,

1754
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: is they seem to have a type of player that

1755
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: they like. You can go back to last year with

1756
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: aj Epinessa. They like big in terms of height. You know,

1757
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: all these guys are tall, clearly Rousseau Epinessa. I guess

1758
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,839
Speaker 1: Vashimis is over sixty three, so that would be considered

1759
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 1: a pretty good size as well. As you said, they're

1760
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: not bendy, they're not flexible their speed to power, they're

1761
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 1: strong and they're multi positional. And I don't know if

1762
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Beans spoke about that, but when you do go

1763
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: to your sub front, which of course, Buffalo played ninety

1764
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: percent of their snaps last year New year. We don't

1765
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: know if that'll be the case again, but that was

1766
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: ninety percent of their defense or snaps a year ago.

1767
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 1: They were in a nickel defense. Then you have a

1768
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: lot of versatility and flexibility with those players as to

1769
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: where they can line up. I'm sure that factored into

1770
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: their thinking. If you're speaking base defense, assuming last year

1771
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 1: as a template, that's ten percent of their snaps. So

1772
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: that's really not a high number, right. And when you

1773
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: look at the story about it, right right on the

1774
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, they went and got two

1775
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: guys the same thing there. They got guys of a

1776
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: type both the offensive tackles. They grabbed her six eight

1777
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: or six seven plus, Um, you know, the Spencer Brown,

1778
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Tom Doyle. I mean these guys, you know, they're the

1779
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 1: same size, same look, I mean, what what what does

1780
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 1: that give you on the edge, And why do you

1781
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: think that that's kind of a type that the Bills

1782
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: have coveted. That would be hard for me to answer,

1783
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: but they clearly do. Because both guys are six to eight.

1784
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: Brown is more athletically built than Doyle Um. Brown to me,

1785
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: was a fascinating watch. Obviously, he played at a lower

1786
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: level of college football, so that's why people like to

1787
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 1: use the word raw, whatever that word means very often.

1788
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: I think it just means that a guy played at

1789
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 1: a lower level of college football. Um. But I thought

1790
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown was as talented and offensive tackle prospect as

1791
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,879
Speaker 1: there was in this draft. And I mean that honestly.

1792
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: And again, we never know how drafts play out until

1793
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: players play in the league for a number of years.

1794
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: But this kid is really, really athletic. He's got long arms,

1795
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: he's got a tremendous wingspan. He ran under a five forty,

1796
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: which just speaks to his athleticism. To me, he's the

1797
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: prototype for the position. And one thing I noticed in

1798
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: studying his tape given what the Bills do offensively, the

1799
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: Bills are a passing team and they have deep drops,

1800
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: which is not what a lot of NFL teams do,

1801
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: but they have Josh Allen dropped deep is. Spencer Brown

1802
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 1: had a lot of what we call vertical pass sets,

1803
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 1: which is what you need for deeper drops, and he

1804
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 1: was really really good at those. So I thought, after

1805
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: I watched Brown and then I saw it where he

1806
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: was drafted, I said, Wow, that's a really really good

1807
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: fit because what he does really well fits the Bills

1808
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: and he he's just if this kid develops, and I'm

1809
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: sure he's a good kid. I'm sure there's no red

1810
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: flags with this kid. I just think that he has

1811
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: a chance to really be a special player down the road. Yeah,

1812
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 1: I mean Brandon being essentially tabbed him as their swing

1813
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 1: tackle day one. With a good camp, I wonder if

1814
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: he could really cause some problems. I mean, they just

1815
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: signed the two starting projected starting tackles two extensions in

1816
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: the last calendar year. We know Daryl Williams has played

1817
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 1: close to half his career at guard as well Spencer Brown,

1818
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 1: but how his people in training camp. He could be

1819
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: at right tackle, Darryl Williams could be at guard, and

1820
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: somebody could be out of luck, right, I mean, Dan

1821
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 1: Dawkins is going to be the left tackle. I don't

1822
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: think we have a concern about that. But right tackle,

1823
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's what Brown played, so there's no

1824
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: transition involved. It's not as if he has to move

1825
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: from left to right. He played right tackle in Northern Iowa.

1826
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 1: And you know, here, this is a guy I know,

1827
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 1: I know, Chris, You've researched him. You know, he played

1828
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 1: tight end and d line in high school. He also

1829
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: played basketball and baseball. I mean, this kid is he

1830
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: is highly athletic guy. And the thing that really stood

1831
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: out to me is I thought, for a guy who

1832
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 1: was that tall, I thought he was kind of a

1833
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: natural kneebender. He was not a straight up guy. He

1834
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: was just an athletic guy. And he had a reactive athleticism,

1835
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 1: so if there was a quick move, he could react

1836
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: to it. Now, his last college game was not his

1837
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: best against James Madison, but overall he was I think

1838
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 1: he's a really high level prospect. Yeah, Greg, you've you've

1839
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 1: You're Brownie's way ahead of it. He's got the guy

1840
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: and red zone targets already. He thinks they're going to

1841
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: move him to an eligible receiver and have him going

1842
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: to the y. You know, what I could see that happening.

1843
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,839
Speaker 1: That's a great point. They throw touchdown passes to Dion Dawkins,

1844
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: why not throw it to the guy that's eight five

1845
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: inches taller. Yeah, so you're, hey, he's probably a better

1846
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 1: athlete than a Leis Smith who caught some of those right. Yeah,

1847
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 1: we were talking about that the other day, Steve. You

1848
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: brought that up with least spare pumped the brakes already

1849
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: was love the guy gets a training camp. But let's

1850
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: go back an individual. Let's talk a little bit about

1851
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Boogie Basham. He's the second guy they took two defensive

1852
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 1: ends right in a row. I gotta admit I liked

1853
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: the picks, but I was surprised by the same position

1854
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: two times in a row. Boogie Basham is the guy

1855
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't fit this type in that he's only six

1856
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 1: three and a half rather than six eight. But let's

1857
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: talk about his skill set individually. I mean, I know

1858
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: you like Spencer long right tackle. What about Boogie Basham

1859
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: his ability that like in the run defense. What kind

1860
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: of overall defensive lineman are they getting. Yeah, I think

1861
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a guy. And it's funny what Brandon

1862
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: Bean said because I thought that that Basham was just

1863
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of your old school strong side d end. That's

1864
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:45,719
Speaker 1: what he struck me as, And it sounds like Brandon

1865
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 1: being essentially said the same thing. I thought. For the

1866
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: most party, showed good hand usage as a run defender,

1867
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: had some subtle but efficient hand usage. The thing that

1868
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 1: you noticed with him is he's guy heavy hands. I

1869
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 1: would call him methodically relentless. Not explosive, but methodically relentless.

1870
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: He got moved inside a lot as a three technique

1871
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: pass rusher. You know, his success as a pass rusher

1872
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,799
Speaker 1: stem more from leverage and power, from his hand usage,

1873
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: from competitive effort, from second reaction, not from the fact

1874
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: that you went, wow, look at those great moves. So

1875
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: you know he was like I said, he struck me

1876
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 1: as kind of an old school strong side d n

1877
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: back in the day, you know, when the tight end

1878
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: always lined up on the right side on the line

1879
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. That to me is what Boogie Basham was.

1880
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy with a great playing personality.

1881
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: They'll give it as all on every snap. Probably fits

1882
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: the culture of this organization. It seems they're they're looking

1883
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,600
Speaker 1: for those guys. Guy know, for a fact, you know

1884
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 1: that Rousseau is a great kid. Epiness I know is

1885
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 1: a great kid. I'm sure bash him. It sounds like

1886
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: he's that guy as well. So not only do they

1887
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: want to type physically, I think they on a type.

1888
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: From an organizational standpoint. Marquez Stevenson is an interesting player

1889
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: from a couple of standpoints, greg not only because of

1890
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,839
Speaker 1: his return ability and with Andre Roberts now in Houston,

1891
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: there's a value there. He'll probably be competing with Isaiah

1892
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: McKenzie for a return job right away. As a rookie.

1893
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 1: I know he played mostly out of the slot, but

1894
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: he is in stark contrast to what Cole Beasley is

1895
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 1: in the slot here in this offense. You know, Beasley

1896
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: is a quick direction, quick separation, quick option for Josh

1897
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 1: Allen guy, and that's not who Mark Stevenson is. So

1898
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 1: maybe just lay out how and why he's different from

1899
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley. Well, this kid's a vertical guy for the

1900
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: most part. You know, even though he was five ten,

1901
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: I remember watching him. I watched him last summer, believe

1902
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: it or not, from twenty nineteen. And you know, you

1903
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: never know what the numbers are when you look on

1904
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 1: the internet. So now We know he's five ten, but

1905
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: he had the look and feel of a strider. You know,

1906
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: he just looked like a guy who was a little taller.

1907
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: He showed excellent ball tracking ability on vertical routes, caught

1908
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 1: the ball easily, He ran by and got on top

1909
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 1: of college corners. I thought he was physical and competitive

1910
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. He attacked the ball

1911
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 1: knowing he would get hit. He got from zero to

1912
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 1: sixty and a heartbeat, he could run away from the defense.

1913
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 1: He's an interesting guy to me, and it did not

1914
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 1: surprise me when I saw that the Bills drafted him,

1915
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: because obviously they were a throwing football team, and they've

1916
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 1: got a quarterback that can throw it down the field.

1917
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: His game is built on straight line speed and the

1918
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 1: ability to run away from defenders both vertically horizontally and

1919
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: run after catch. He's not gonna run. You know, it's

1920
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 1: funny you mentioned Beasley Chris, because he's not that guy.

1921
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: He's not gonna run those kind of quickness routes, the

1922
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: pivot routes, the whip routes. He runs vertical routes, he

1923
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,839
Speaker 1: runs crossers. He runs the routes that maximize his speed.

1924
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 1: So is he better, So should he be lying up

1925
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: at the Z then or you know, I could see

1926
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 1: him again he's he's a rook so let's yeah, I know,

1927
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: Steve said, I'm getting excited. I don't. I don't want

1928
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 1: to sit here and say that. Wow week one, this

1929
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 1: guy is he's he's it. But I mean I could

1930
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: see them thinking that he's John Brownish Okay, right, he

1931
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 1: runs Brown with me. You know he was a small

1932
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: guy too. He reminds me of the old receivers, a

1933
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: little bigger than than he is. But the old guy

1934
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: that Roy Green. Okay, ah, wow, I remember Roy Green

1935
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 1: pulled out. He runs a little bit like I love that.

1936
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: I love that. That was that was back in the

1937
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: days of Air Clorio with the Cardinals. Yeah, well I'm

1938
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: an old guy. Let's talk. I want to talk to

1939
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 1: you a little bit more about one of the other guys,

1940
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Tommy Doyle. He's a he's a guy that's a lot

1941
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: like Spencer Brown once three six eight three fourteen one

1942
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: six eight three twenty, But Tommy Doyle dropped all the

1943
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 1: way down to the one, you know, one sixty one

1944
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: sixty one overall from Miami of Ohio. Both guys come

1945
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,560
Speaker 1: from smaller schools. What you know is Tommy Doyle the

1946
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: same guy, except just a little less athletic than the

1947
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 1: basketball player Spencer Brown. Yeah, he's less athletic, but he's

1948
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: got outstanding size in lane. I would say his athleticism

1949
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: is plus, not great. Um, he struggled. His issue and

1950
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: the reason he's not Spencer Brown, and the reason why

1951
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: he got drafted where he did is he struggled and

1952
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: been in past protection, particularly at the top of the

1953
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: past rush arc, he would kind of lose his poise,

1954
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 1: his composure, his hand usage would sort of fade, he'd bend,

1955
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: he'd forward lean a lot. So he needs technique work

1956
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 1: on pass pro You can always teach a guy technique.

1957
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: But he's got experienced playing both tackle positions. As I said,

1958
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 1: he is a plus athlete. He just needs technique work.

1959
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 1: But he's again another guy who's a good prospect, and

1960
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: I believe he played. Um he played four seasons. Obviously,

1961
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 1: hell in three games this past season, but he ended

1962
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 1: up playing four seasons at Miami of Ohio. Yeah, to it,

1963
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 1: right tackle, to it, left tackle. Damar Hamlin. You know,

1964
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Greg, just watching pit tape on

1965
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: a number of players. There's an edge to the way

1966
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: that their two events plays. Like every guy on that

1967
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: side of the ball for them, they all play with

1968
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:27,480
Speaker 1: an edge, physical, borderline nasty. I mean, I'm not surprised

1969
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: that over the last few years, you know, you've seen

1970
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: as many pit players get drafted, maybe not at the

1971
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 1: top of the draft, but you know, through the middle

1972
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: rounds in the back end. I could I understand why

1973
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 1: coaches like these pit kids they play with an edge,

1974
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: and Hamlin seems to have that. Yeah, the issue with

1975
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Hammel is not that at all. In fact, he's a

1976
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: smart player. He's a savvy player, and obviously they've got

1977
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 1: two safeties like that who were not viewed as great

1978
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 1: athletes coming out. In fact, poy Er, as you guys know,

1979
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: I believe, was a seventh round pick coming out as

1980
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: a corner. So you're dealing with Hamlin. He's aggressive, he's competitive,

1981
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 1: he's more downhill. He's got really good recognition, he's got

1982
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:12,799
Speaker 1: a quick trigger. He just doesn't possess the play speed

1983
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 1: and range you'd ideally would like to see on the

1984
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: back end. And you know, so then you start to think, Okay,

1985
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: how does that impact what he can become is he

1986
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: going to struggle and coverage? Is he going can he

1987
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 1: matchroid receivers on vertical routes? Can he match up man

1988
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: to man on tight ends. These are all questions that

1989
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 1: you don't specifically know the answer to, but there are

1990
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 1: discussions in your draft meetings, and it's the reason he's

1991
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: drafted where he is. You love the way he plays.

1992
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: I mean, this kid is fun to watch. I mean,

1993
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: he's got his game's built on recognition, quick reaction, forward movement.

1994
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: You know, he's just you know, in some ways, I

1995
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 1: think to what Jordan Fuller did with the Rams last

1996
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: year as a rookie in twenty twenty. Fuller was a

1997
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: late round pick. He was thought not to quite have

1998
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: the athletic ability. He played in a defense that played

1999
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 1: a lot of cover four, which the Rams did, and

2000
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: he was very, very good in that. So the main

2001
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 1: question really with Hammon as you transition him is whether

2002
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 1: his athletic limitations drop him below the level where you

2003
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: think he's good enough to start, or the other elements

2004
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 1: of his game can rise him to the level where

2005
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: you believe he can be an effective staughter. One of

2006
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 1: the things I think about evaluating safety is that their

2007
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:33,640
Speaker 1: position is so cerebral and ask and you have to

2008
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: have so much recognition as so much of what makes

2009
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 1: you good goes on between your ears. It's really hard

2010
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 1: to evaluate when a guy's really ahead of the play

2011
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 1: or when he just falls into a play, or you know,

2012
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback just decides to target his guy. Is he

2013
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:50,640
Speaker 1: really in the right spot because there's nobody, you know,

2014
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 1: they almost have to find offensive players to guard. You know,

2015
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: you don't really know what they're it's hard to discern

2016
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: what their responsibility is as a safety. So how do

2017
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: you get around that as an evaluator when you're looking

2018
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,640
Speaker 1: at the safety to know exactly what you're looking at

2019
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: and if he's really good or if he's just a

2020
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: little bit fortunate. It's it's and it's harder on college

2021
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 1: d because the field is different with the hash marks.

2022
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 1: So he was the field safety and splits safety alignment.

2023
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: So he played to the wide side of the field

2024
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: in college, and the wide side of the field in college,

2025
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: as you guys know, is really wide. So it's now

2026
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: he moved and played malam More boundary safety when Paris Ford, Um,

2027
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't know whether he got hurt or he just

2028
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 1: opted out it's you know, for a certain number of games.

2029
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: But um, so that's that's a hard question. You know,

2030
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 1: it's a good question. It's a really hard question to

2031
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: know the answer to. Great. I know you didn't see

2032
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 1: enough of Rashad wild Goose. But Jack Anderson, the Texas

2033
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 1: Tech guard, is a guy that was highly decorated even

2034
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: in high school. Um oh yeah, I mean the guy

2035
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: was like he had like forty scholarship offers. Uh, and

2036
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: you know it was a three year starter, I think

2037
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 1: for for Tech. So I think the general consensus is

2038
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: you don't worry about his pass pro experience with as

2039
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: much as they throw it around down there. But what

2040
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: about him in the run game? Is there enough tape

2041
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: of him to get a good evaluation to him in

2042
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:15,839
Speaker 1: that area? Yeah, I mean, this guy's got cord strained.

2043
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: He generated power on down blocks, he kept his feet

2044
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 1: running to sustain those blocks. You know, he competed. When

2045
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 1: you play inside, you want to see guys really compete hard.

2046
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,759
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I'm not an offensive line guru, certainly

2047
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: not when it comes to center and guard. So I'm

2048
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 1: not going to sit here and say I know exactly

2049
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: what he is or what he isn't in the tape

2050
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 1: I watched. He didn't strike me, and of course obviously

2051
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 1: that was the case because of where he was drafted,

2052
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: But he didn't strike me as a guy that was

2053
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 1: a high level prospect. I thought he was pretty stiff,

2054
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of regimented. I thought he was a confined space

2055
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 1: player and not particularly athletic. Thought he played a little upright,

2056
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 1: which also led to some stiffness. So again, where he's drafted.

2057
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: You know, if he didn't have these things that show

2058
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: up on tape, he would have been drafted higher. So

2059
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, that's what happens when you start getting into

2060
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: later round picks. They all come with flaws and then

2061
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: it comes down to coaching and what they're being asked

2062
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: to do within the context of a particular system that

2063
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 1: they're in. So with Greg, I know he did take

2064
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: center reps at the Senior Bowl. Um, could you see

2065
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: could you see that as a transition for him and

2066
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:31,640
Speaker 1: maybe a better fit than guard. Yeah. I again, Um,

2067
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 1: without being the expert on it, I could understand that

2068
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 1: for sure, because he's not really a mover. To me,

2069
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: he's a stiffer guy, and I think maybe playing center

2070
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: would would would help him out right, are you good,

2071
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: ste You've got that, you got all your questions answered?

2072
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: A good man. I'm We're not gonna see again for

2073
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: a while, and I don't have any Yeah, I know,

2074
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's it's gonna be tough. I know

2075
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for me not to visit with

2076
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 1: you guys every week now. Yeah, but we'll see it

2077
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: back in the fall. So enjoy your time off from

2078
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 1: from our high jinks here every week. I'm sure you'll

2079
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:07,560
Speaker 1: enjoy that. It will certainly give you more time to

2080
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 1: watch tape through What is next on your calendar? Greg Um,

2081
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 1: I actually have to do uh, you know, go short

2082
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:15,560
Speaker 1: of back into the NFL films mode. I've got to

2083
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 1: do a highlight film or a preview film of a

2084
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: team with a new coach. That's next on my agenda.

2085
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: And then I found out I have a ton of

2086
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,560
Speaker 1: vacation time that was a crude from last year. So

2087
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: you know, you guys know I'm nuts anyway, but I'm

2088
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 1: not really going anywhere. So with all that vacation time,

2089
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I'll probably watch tape. Okay, Wow, I gotta Steve, I'm

2090
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 1: a little crazy. We gotta we gotta get We gotta

2091
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: get Greg a fishing pole or something. We gotta find

2092
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: something to get out. Now. Hey, you know, there's there's

2093
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: not a lot of difference between standing on the pier

2094
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: with a fishing pole, you know, and fishing and looking stupid.

2095
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 1: So I won't be doing that. All right, Well, enjoy

2096
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: the time that you do have if you do do

2097
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: something besides watching film. We'll see in the fall. We

2098
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:58,959
Speaker 1: look forward to catching up and get back in September.

2099
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: All right, guys, you too, really appreciate it, all right?

2100
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 1: Take care. That's great. Co Sale, senior producer of NFL Films,

2101
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: who will now go on hiatus as far as this

2102
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 1: show is concerned, but we'll have him back on in

2103
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 1: September to talk games and matchups and reviewing game performance

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Speaker 1: because that is his wheelhouse in every way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: So a farewell for now, and we'll catch back up

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Speaker 1: with him in the fall as he dies back into

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Speaker 1: the film, not only of what's coming up for this

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Speaker 1: season on the NFL horizon, but as you heard him say,

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Speaker 1: he was watching some of these guys that got drafted

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Speaker 1: by the Bills last summer, right, I mean, he's like

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Speaker 1: a blessed Tho scout. You know, the guy's always looking

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Speaker 1: at the next year of prospects before everybody else. He's

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Speaker 1: doing that already. Absolutely nuts. You gotta love it though,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's some guys it's their thing. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like work for him. He enjoys

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Speaker 1: it that much. The same thing for other aspects of organizay.

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Speaker 1: He know. Dan Morgan's that way. The guy he's going

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Speaker 1: to be interviewed to be an assistant general manager down

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Speaker 1: in Carolina the Bills Pro pro personnel guy personnel director.

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Speaker 1: These guys live it and breathe it, and it's they're

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01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: good at it because they've seen so many guys And

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01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 1: then I think the thing that helps them more than

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Speaker 1: anything guys like and even guys like Greg And when

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Speaker 1: I'm throwing Roy Green at him out of the love that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the eyes lit up when you when you when you

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01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 1: throw that out, you can remember how you what you

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Speaker 1: thought about a guy, for instance, in this year's draft,

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Speaker 1: and in five years you go back and you see

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Speaker 1: how that turned out and why, and you apply that

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Speaker 1: to your evaluations going forward. So the really it truly

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01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: is the longer you do this that job, the better

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01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: you get at it because you know subtlety. You can

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Speaker 1: recognize subtleties that means something in a young player and

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Speaker 1: it you know, the longer you've been doing it, the

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Speaker 1: better you get at it. And these guys someone like

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Speaker 1: Greg I mean, it's his thing. And it's like you said,

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Speaker 1: like there'll be more effective comps for them because they've

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Speaker 1: seen so many guys. I mean, you say Roy Green

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Speaker 1: marks Stevenson. I mean even I'm old enough to know

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Speaker 1: I'd be happy with that can play. Roy Green was

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Speaker 1: a good player for a long time. I think Roy

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01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: Green was a little bigger than Stevenson is. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the same thing though it's a same kind of athlete,

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Speaker 1: ask him to do the same things. Yeah, we will

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but when we return, more of

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Speaker 1: your comments on the tweet sheet about what you feel

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Speaker 1: will be the biggest impact on the Bills from their

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Speaker 1: most recent draft class. Choices for you are at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live or you can give us a call at

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty and if we have time, we

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Speaker 1: might delve into a little NFL true false. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back in a moment here on One Bills Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. We welcome

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Speaker 1: back One Bills Live Tuesday edition, final half hour of

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Speaker 1: this show, and we're getting back to the tweet sheet.

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01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: We're asking you what will be the biggest impact from

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01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: this year's Bills draft class. Choices are there for you

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01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter at one Bills Live and Seth chose b

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Speaker 1: Greg and Boogie will both be instant impact players. Directly,

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Speaker 1: I think they will be the ones drawing double teams

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Speaker 1: after a game or two. Wow, freeing up jerrys and

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Speaker 1: Mario Addison Indirectly, I and you thought I had to

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Speaker 1: pump the brakes. Indirectly, I believe strong rookie play from

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Speaker 1: those two will light a fire under EPINESSA who will

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Speaker 1: be much better. Competition raises all boats, doesn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So he's got Greg Russo and Boogie bash him on

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Speaker 1: the field. Not only on the field. They're getting double teams.

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Speaker 1: They're getting double teamed and Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison

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Speaker 1: so can go to work. Got four defensive ends on

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Speaker 1: the field, right, The subtition are going to be on

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Speaker 1: the bat and the two rookies that were probably those

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Speaker 1: two are inside. Yeah, yeah, Okay, there you go. Seth is.

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Speaker 1: Seth is fired up. I don't know how that alignment's

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Speaker 1: gonna look, but hey, you you do you Seth. John

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01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 1: tweets AFC quarterbacks quaking in their cleats knowing they have

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Speaker 1: to face Grout twice a season. For those that don't

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Speaker 1: know who Grout is, he's a giant tree monster from

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Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy and he's about twelve feet tall.

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Speaker 1: And on social media some people were calling Greg Russou Grout.

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Speaker 1: That was his group. That was Russo's nickname at the Universe,

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01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: at the US route and so now he's the mafia

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01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 1: has adopted that they have done so, Yes, Dinah on

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01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, I think it's C that has the

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Speaker 1: most opportunity. While I hated when our guys get hurt,

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01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: it's inevitable that some will be injured enough to miss

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Speaker 1: a game. So she thinks that the depth of the

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Speaker 1: roster will be the greatest impact of this draft class,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think that's the most likely to

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Speaker 1: be the case, right, I mean, these guys aren't gonna

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Speaker 1: be running around on the field as starters to a

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Speaker 1: great degree. As a matter of fact, I saw as

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Speaker 1: statistic and I believe it was by sports in Fox Solutions,

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Speaker 1: who have some nice numbers that they put out on

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Speaker 1: social media every once in a while. And I think

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Speaker 1: it read that rookies on the whole last year, from

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Speaker 1: the draft class and done the undrafted accounted for twenty

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Speaker 1: percent of the total snaps in the league, twenty percent

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Speaker 1: all through the year. Yeah, I wonder if I wonder

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Speaker 1: if the pandemic had anything to do with that. Perhaps,

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02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 1: but you know, pres hard pressed to say went up.

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Speaker 1: It would go up yet. But if you think about

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Speaker 1: fins and Zack Moss and Gabriel Davis, I want I

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Speaker 1: wonder if the Bills specifically had more than twenty percent,

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Speaker 1: but the time that Gabe Davis was on the field,

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Speaker 1: Zack matt Man, maybe not, maybe not just three guys

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Speaker 1: out of twenty probably an accurate number. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 1: Bills probably fell which little bit below that, which and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a number that would catch most fans

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Speaker 1: by surprise. Well, the rookies we had good draft. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of a high number. That means a couple, that

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Speaker 1: means that least two actually more than two, and just

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Speaker 1: so it's between three and four rookies on every team

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Speaker 1: starting on either side of the ball, right, and they

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Speaker 1: and that I believe that was only a figure for

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Speaker 1: offense and defense. It did not factor in special team, right,

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Speaker 1: which means Tyler bass wooden count last year. I get that,

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Speaker 1: but think about that's you know, I think it's lower

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Speaker 1: than most people would think. I don't know. That seems

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Speaker 1: high to me. Oh you think it's high. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at I'm just looking at Seth's tweet

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Speaker 1: here talking about two guys starting on the end, right,

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Speaker 1: It seems high to me because that, like I said,

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Speaker 1: that would be four guys two on offense, two on

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Speaker 1: defense or three and one or whatever have you, starting

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Speaker 1: for every team and taking every snap of those get

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Speaker 1: it up to get it up to twenty percent. Twenty

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Speaker 1: percent of eleven is two point two guys two point two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So if they're taking twenty percent of the snaps, that

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Speaker 1: means they're also not getting eighty percent of them too. Well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that means there means even if you have two

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Speaker 1: start rookie starters on either side of the ball, they

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Speaker 1: got to take every snap to get there, and then

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Speaker 1: you'd have zero rookies playing anywhere else. I get it,

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Speaker 1: but that seemed a lot to me. Yeah, guys in

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Speaker 1: that in the same year of eligibility, which in the league,

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Speaker 1: guys in the same year. I thought it was an

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Speaker 1: interesting number. I wish they provided more contexts as to

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Speaker 1: how they got there. I wonder, like, who has the

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Speaker 1: most snaps in the league? Is it second year guys,

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Speaker 1: third year guys, fourth year guys? You know who has

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Speaker 1: the most highest percentage? And what that percentage would be.

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Speaker 1: I would bet it's probably right in there between two

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Speaker 1: and four years, I think bet it. I'll bet it's

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Speaker 1: not much more than twenty percent. Though, because you think

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Speaker 1: you don't think the numbers, because you go all the

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Speaker 1: way up. You got one guy in the league's played

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Speaker 1: sixteen years at quarterback, right, I mean you got you

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02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So there's that takes like what

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Speaker 1: five percent or whatever? The snaps? Are you one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of them? Yeah? I don't know. Yeah, Like I said,

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Speaker 1: they didn't provide enough context to how they got to

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Speaker 1: the number. But still all I thought it was an

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Speaker 1: interesting number. That strikes me as a high number. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just trying to tamp down

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Speaker 1: the wildly out of control all optimistic today when you

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Speaker 1: draft four guys, there are three guys that are all

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Speaker 1: six eight yeah, and the other guy that's a beast

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Speaker 1: at six three plus can't teach height, right, I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, so we're all having a hard time not

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Speaker 1: projecting our wilds. I had to be checked twelve. Greg

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Speaker 1: was on. I remember, Um, yeah, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just I think it's interesting when they put that figure out. Um,

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Speaker 1: time for a little NFL true falls Steve, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: and NFL true false is brought to you by Yancey's

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Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artisan cheese. So NFL true false number

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Speaker 1: one one. Steven a tasker. The Bucks made the right

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Speaker 1: move in drafting Kyle Trask to be Brady's potential successor.

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Speaker 1: He was taken with the last pick in round two.

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Speaker 1: I say, true, you got to find a guy, even

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Speaker 1: if he is there for two more years. A longer

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Speaker 1: Trash has as an apprentice behind him, the more he's

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Speaker 1: gonna learn. And if he's not the guy, you still

2273
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: have another year to get another one. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've got to start aligning that and getting him in

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Speaker 1: late in the second thirty second pick of the second round,

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Speaker 1: sixty fourth. Overall, that's not a threat. It's not like

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Speaker 1: a headline grabber or anything like that. You want to

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Speaker 1: get a guy with some traits, which means you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to draft high. Yeah, and you want to get

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Speaker 1: a guy who can who's gonna have the time. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: nobody on this planet thinks this guy's any kind of

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Speaker 1: threat to Tom Brady, including Tom Brady himself. He'll be

2283
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 1: more than happy to say, hey, let me help you

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Speaker 1: along and teach you the ropes. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's a really smart move. I wonder what Trask is

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Speaker 1: going to turn into because there were times where I

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Speaker 1: watch him just on a college Saturday because Florida was

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02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,240
Speaker 1: on a lot. You know, they're on CBS SEC foot ball.

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Speaker 1: And now, granted, he also was throwing to two guys

2290
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Speaker 1: who got drafted in the first round on Thursday night

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02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 1: and Kyle Pitts and Kadariush More no Tony Darius, so

2292
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 1: there was that. But there were times I was like,

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Speaker 1: this kid's pretty good. He's playing at a tough conference,

2294
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 1: and then there were other times it's like, oh, what's

2295
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: going on there? So yeah, and he's got an interesting story,

2296
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Speaker 1: you know, single mom, uh, you know, working extra jobs

2297
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:37,640
Speaker 1: so we could go to football camps and this and

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02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:41,919
Speaker 1: that and didn't get handed anything in Florida either, finally started.

2299
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Speaker 1: So when guys come up through that kind of adversity,

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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of feel better about those guys

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02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 1: kind of making it, provided they have the right tools,

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Speaker 1: you know. Josh Allen's an example of that. Not recruited,

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Speaker 1: had to go to junior college. Aaron Rodgers had to

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02:05:59,880 --> 02:06:02,400
Speaker 1: go to junior college. Yeah, before he went to cal

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Speaker 1: Right now, I think those guys that have to scrape

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02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:10,720
Speaker 1: and claw a little bit, they are not entitled exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean exactly, And I feel better about

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Speaker 1: them succeeding because of what they've had to overcome. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, right exactly? I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: you mean. Yeah, And if I'm gonna say true, I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for Kyle Trask here. I like him. I ESPN

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Speaker 1: did a whole big expose on him. I watched it

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02:06:29,080 --> 02:06:32,200
Speaker 1: start to finish. I like the kid. He comes across

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Speaker 1: really well. I think he's got his priorities in check.

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Speaker 1: NFL true false. Number two Bills fans will love that.

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02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 1: This one involves Brady as well, Brady versus Belichick is

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02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 1: the best rivalry on the twenty twenty one NFL schedule.

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02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 1: By the way NFL schedule sits just eight days away

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02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 1: from being released. A week from tomorrow, the NFL schedule

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02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: will be out, and we do know that the AFC

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02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 1: East plays the NFC South. So Belichick and Brady will

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02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: go tete a tete this season, provided Brady's healthy and

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02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 1: in the lineup. I want, and I gotta be honest,

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02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 1: best rivalry. I gotta be honest. I don't know enough

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Speaker 1: about what the schedule brings for all these other teams

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Speaker 1: to say this is the best one, the one. It

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Speaker 1: might be the most interesting one I know about. You

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02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, I mean, well, yeah, who else?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what other rivalries are there that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about that aren't gonna happen or that are gonna happen. Yeah,

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02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I'm gonna I reserve judgment on this

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02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 1: fully until I see the schedule and see what's gonna happen.

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02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna be interested in watching that. So

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Speaker 1: what I'm really gonna be interested in is the pregame handshake.

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02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 1: If those two actually greet each other, which they probably will.

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Speaker 1: They'll probably yeah, they're probably mouth kiss. I don't care,

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02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 1: but oh god, you know, but you know, I want

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02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:01,440
Speaker 1: to see every thing. I want to see that relationship

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02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 1: displayed on opposite sidelines. Yes, absolutely, all right, So you're

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Speaker 1: gonna say for the best rivalry, I'm gonna say false

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02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 1: because I look at this as it in a different way.

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02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 1: I look at it as the most media frenzied matchup

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02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 1: of the season because of the two stalwarts that are

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02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 1: involved in the game. Right, I don't know what kind

2345
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:29,280
Speaker 1: of rivalry you can argue between the Patriots and the Bucks.

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02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not a thing, right, So I

2347
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 1: don't think rivalry is even the right word here. Well, yeah,

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02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's you want to say Brady versus Belichick

2349
02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:42,600
Speaker 1: is the best media magnet of the twenty twenty one schedule.

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02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 1: I am on board, hook line and sinker. Yeah, that's

2351
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:51,120
Speaker 1: unless you could make a case for if Detroit played

2352
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:55,280
Speaker 1: LA with Gough and Matthews Stafford on the on different teams,

2353
02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, switch teams like that. We're gonna check to

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02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 1: see if that's gonna happen. You could make a case

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02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:03,840
Speaker 1: for that. That would u let's see how about Sam

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02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 1: Darnald and the Jets if that was going to happen

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02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, that will happen because the AFC

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02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:14,320
Speaker 1: East is playing the NFC South, that'll be a game.

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02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:19,280
Speaker 1: So Darnold versus the Jets, Zach Wilson and Zach Wilson. Oh,

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02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,840
Speaker 1: that's that's tasty for us. That's pretty good. That's a

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02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 1: delicious matchup. I enjoy that. I would watch that game.

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02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 1: I would watch that game. I will watch that game.

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02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:29,000
Speaker 1: Be interesting to see if that gets put in other things,

2364
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 1: other other possibilities. Cam Newton in Carolina, that will happen

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02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 1: as well. Hmm, I'm I don't know. I'm getting on now,

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02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah? How about Well that's why I

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02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:47,200
Speaker 1: said falls so um so I yeah, Cam, Yeah, Sam

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02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 1: Darnold against the Bills and his buddy Josh who Josh

2369
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 1: has yet to lose to that guy. So let's quickly

2370
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 1: squeeze this one. In last NFL true Falls Bears need

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02:09:56,680 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 1: Justin Fields to beat out Andy Dalton early in twenty

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02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 1: twenty one for the starting job. I don't know what's

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02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:06,480
Speaker 1: defined as early, but I'm assuming the first month of

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02:10:06,520 --> 02:10:11,120
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, I do. They need him to do

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02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 1: that Andy hold that can Big Red hold the fort

2376
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 1: for a few weeks? No, I would say I would

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02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 1: say that's false because I think they just need justin

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02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 1: Fields to be the best version of himself. That should

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02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 1: be good enough. And if it takes half a season

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02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 1: to get there, you've got to make sure you can

2381
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:31,760
Speaker 1: wait that long to get him there and hope that

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02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton can hold the fort down until then. That's

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02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 1: all you need. You don't need him to like just

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02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:38,840
Speaker 1: come in and knock it out of the point. You

2385
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 1: need to develop him in his pace and where he

2386
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:44,839
Speaker 1: needs to be developed. You don't have to set his schedule,

2387
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:47,520
Speaker 1: none of that. Just get him as good as you

2388
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:50,600
Speaker 1: can get him. I am. I am going to say

2389
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Speaker 1: true because this is what I expect the Bears to do.

2390
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,480
Speaker 1: I fully expect the Bears to rush him onto the field.

2391
02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 1: Oh do you want to know why? That's just Matt

2392
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 1: Naggie and Ryan Pace have their jobs on the line

2393
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 1: this year and they know it, which is why they

2394
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:08,960
Speaker 1: made the investment in Fields in the first place. So,

2395
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 1: come hell or high water, they're gonna be shoving him

2396
02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:13,800
Speaker 1: on the field with a snowplow if they have to

2397
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:16,880
Speaker 1: get him out there and they're gonna botch this thing.

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02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:19,600
Speaker 1: You watch them mishandle this thing. Jim McMahon said it

2399
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 1: best former Chicago quarterback. That's Chicago is where quarterbacks go

2400
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:27,120
Speaker 1: to die, and they're gonna make sure that they are

2401
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 1: sabotaging his ability to be his best self. NFL True

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Speaker 1: Falls brought to you by Nancy's Fancy Steve and I

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02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 1: back to close it up. We'll see in a minute

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Speaker 1: what have we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the

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02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:56,520
Speaker 1: official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Steve.

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02:11:56,720 --> 02:12:00,520
Speaker 1: The numbers have come out on the viewing of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft, and it was the third

2408
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 1: most watched annual event in league history. Is according to

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02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:14,240
Speaker 1: the news release from NFL Communications, an average of six

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02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 1: point one million viewers watched the Cleveland hosted draft, which

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02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 1: is right in line with twenty nineteen's total of six

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02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:23,080
Speaker 1: point two million. Most notably comparing those two years, the

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02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:26,760
Speaker 1: average minute streaming audience for the twenty twenty one NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft was two hundred sixty one thousand, which is up

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Speaker 1: by thirty nine percent. The streaming viewers. Yeah, it's all

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02:12:35,080 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 1: the streaming and the over the top broadcast stuff is

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02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:42,000
Speaker 1: going double digit growth year over year. Yeah, it's exploding.

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02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:44,880
Speaker 1: The draft saw a forty one percent increase from twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen in streaming with eight point nine million total views,

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02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:53,800
Speaker 1: and then it went up thirty nine percent from twenty nineteen.

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02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:57,160
Speaker 1: It's exploding, it really is. That's why I wonder if

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02:12:57,200 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 1: the pandemic boosted that number last year and now people

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02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:03,560
Speaker 1: have developed a habit of doing Maybe. I think it's

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02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,720
Speaker 1: just a convenience of it, particularly during the pandemic, because

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02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 1: you're doing something on the weekend, you still have the

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02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:11,840
Speaker 1: draft on your phone. Plus nobody sits down, as you know,

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02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:13,960
Speaker 1: if you sit down to watch it, you're binging something.

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02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:17,280
Speaker 1: You know. These days, there's no really appointment watching unless

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02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:20,120
Speaker 1: it's the NFL or live live sports. Yeah, so the

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02:13:20,280 --> 02:13:22,840
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, I mean people are out doing stuff or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Take it with him. Yeah, you know you're gonna want

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02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:29,600
Speaker 1: to join us early for our Wednesday show at noon

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02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:31,880
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live. That's because we have the

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Speaker 1: general manager of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Being, joining us

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02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 1: at twelve fifteen, and he'll be followed by the Bill's

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02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:43,400
Speaker 1: number one Draft choice one, Greg Rousseau. He'll be joining

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02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:47,080
Speaker 1: us here, better known as Grout to his college teammates.

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02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:49,360
Speaker 1: Both of those guys on the show tomorrow. Don't you

2439
02:13:49,480 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 1: dare miss it. For Steve task around Chris Brown, we'll

2440
02:13:51,400 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 1: see tomorrow