1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: What is going on everybody, How are we doing? Hopefully 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: everyone's having a great day. The NFL Draft is right 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: around the corner, so buckle up because we've been waiting 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: a long time. Today we're gonna do. We're gonna have 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Jay Gruden, John's brother join the show. He obviously was 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: a head coach as well, longtime head coach for Washington, 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the Bengals as well with Andy Dalton. 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: I think they had like the best offensive the league. 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Jay knows quarterback play. We're gonna talk quarterbacks in the draft, 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: how he approached the draft as a head coach, how 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: he watched guys, and just a bunch of different things. 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: What he thinks about Kevin O'Connell and the decision to 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: go with JJ McCarthy as well as I will get 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: some thoughts to open the podcast about party showing up, 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Kittle not showing up to the offseason. A guy like 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: DeVante Adams had a comment in regards to the forty 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: nine ers and their low ball offer. The Titans general 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: manager made some comments, so did Chris Ballard. 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Last minute tickets, 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: lowest price is guaranteed. The forty nine ers, they made 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: some news today because their general manager, John Lynch, Hall 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: of Fame safety spoke and he let us know that 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: rock Party is in attendance, and that's where I want 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: to start. And these holdouts, these hold ins have become 64 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: pretty consistent in the NFL. The amount of money that 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: guys are scheduled to make, whether you're a linebacker, a 66 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: wide receiver, a pass rusher, an offensive lineman, has never 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: been more Obviously. These quarterbacks, now, I mean a low 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: level quarterback deal pays one hundred million dollars guaranteed. You 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: saw Sam Darnold get fifty five guaranteed based on one 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: really good season after an awful start to his career. 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: You've seen guys like Geno Smith get huge extension after 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: a huge extension, and he was a lifetime backup relative 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: to these guys that were scratching our head. Just like 74 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: you gave to a what Jordan Love had eight good 75 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: games and he got like one hundred and seventy five 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: million dollars to a Tonga bai loa. You saw Trevor Lawrence. 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: We don't even know if he's a good player, and 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: he got two hundred million dollars guaranteed. There's a ton 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: of money on the line. And I totally understand, and 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: I've always supported a player. When you're talking, you could 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: be talking forty to fifty sixty million dollars guaranteed, let 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: alone one hundred million plus the moment you get on 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: the field in an ota situation, in a training camp situation. 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Injuries can be out of your control, someone falling on 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: your leg, you tripping and falling, you planning the wrong way, 86 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: and it can get yourself into a situation where you're injured. Listen, 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: it's a cutthroat league. There's a reason we call it 88 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 2: not for long. You will be thrown in the trash 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: with a quickness, and anytime you have a chance to 90 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: make that much money at a young age. I totally 91 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: understand and support people making business decisions because we all 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: do it in our walk of life. Obviously for ninety 93 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: nine point nine percent of us, we are not talking 94 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred million dollars. 95 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: But you got to fight for yourself and you have 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: to be You have to have a cold blooded, cold 97 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: hearted streak in any industry when it comes to money, 98 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: because that's the way this world operates, specifically in this country. 99 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: But I also think that not everything needs to be 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 2: really acrimonious, and not everything needs to be some war 101 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: the agent and the player versus the team. Sometimes you 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: can work together, and we have seen it pretty consistent. 103 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: These holdouts have turned into hold ends and brock Perty 104 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: has had a front row seat on this. A couple 105 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: of years ago, Nick Bosa held out and then he 106 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: got a historic amount of money, but it he missed 107 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: all of training camp and when he got back he 108 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: didn't play that well. Last year, Brandon Ayuk held in, 109 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: and let's face it, I don't ever remember the forty 110 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: nine ers, of all their different administrations, ever regretting a 111 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: contract so quickly, and if they could have, they gladly 112 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: would have traded him this offseason. But because he's injured 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: and makes a ton of money, no one was going 114 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: to touch him, not a soul in the league rightfully, 115 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't either if I was one of the 116 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: other thirty one teams. He's owed way too much money 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: and way too many questions question marks about the health 118 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: of his leg. But it shows you how quickly the 119 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: forty nine ers turned on him, because, let's face it, 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: Tim Kawakami and a bunch of people that covered the 121 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: forty nine ers have discussed this at length. They did 122 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: not look favorably on how that was handled. Because there's 123 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: a point of being professional and then there's kind of 124 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: jumping that line and becoming unprofessional, and the forty nine 125 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: ers clearly think that Brandon Ayuk and his camp acted 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: that way. And I think if you're a Brock Purdy, 127 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: you've kind of seen every different element of this. Nick Bosa, 128 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: who is the type player you just a blank check. 129 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: He kind of gets to dictate the terms. Brandon ayukho Listen, 130 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to play Monday morning quarterback. I thought 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: it was insane for them not to trade them. They're 132 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: never gonna have a guy where they in that offense 133 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: under Kyle that's gonna catch ninety one hundred balls. That 134 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: is not how they play. So to pay a guy 135 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: a premium that's gonna catch between seventy and eighty balls, 136 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: I thought was kind of nuts, and they ended up 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: doing it. And I think, if you're Brock Purdy, you 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: know you're in a really good situation. You know, this 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: coach and general manager love you. You know, the team 140 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: really likes you. You know I've seen this a couple 141 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: of years ago when the forty nine Ers turned on 142 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: Trey Lance. It wasn't just the GM and the coach 143 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: doing it. The star players on the team didn't think 144 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: he could play. Honestly, the basketball team in the region 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: is going through it currently with Jonathan Kaminga. Everyone's like 146 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: Steve Kurta doesn't like him. Clearly neither do the star players, 147 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: because if they thought he could play, he would be 148 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: on the court. And the forty nine ers, from the 149 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: front office to the coaching staff to the players, they 150 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: believe in this guy. And listen, is he gonna get 151 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence two hundred million dollars? I wouldn't do that deal. 152 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: I don't think the forty nine ers are comfortable doing 153 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: that deal. But even if you get quote unquote a 154 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: low end quarterback deal, you're talking one hundred and fifty 155 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed. And if you're Brock Purdy, you have 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: made a lot of money off the field because you 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: play for this brand easily, not even close, one of 158 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: the top brands in the NFL to play for, and 159 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: when they're good, you directly profit off. It's not all 160 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: equal brands discriminate in the NFL. Right, There's a reason 161 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: if you play quarterback for the Jags, if you play 162 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: quarterback for the Houston Texans, you're not gonna make as 163 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: much when you play for the Green Bay Packers. The 164 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, the Dallas Cowboys, the San Fransco forty nine Ers, 165 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. While he's made a lot of money off 166 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: on the field, he's made a ton off the field 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: because he's played for the Dallas Cowboys. Now in those negotiations, 168 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: clearly that's never factored in. Guys like that give me 169 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: the most money possible, and we see see how that 170 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: limits the team they put around them, which wishing we 171 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: could argue till we're blue in the face whether that's 172 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: fair or not, But that's a reality the business you're in. 173 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: And if you're brock Purty, like you want to do 174 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: a good deal with the forty nine ers, you want 175 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: to get paid, but you want them to be happy 176 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: with you, because if they're not, they will discard you 177 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: very very quickly. We have just seen their actions this offseason. 178 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: They will turn on a player really, really quickly. And 179 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: I think, and I give brock Purty credit. Now, listen, 180 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: if you told me last week, do you think brock 181 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: Party is not going to show up? I would have 182 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: said no. I would have imagined he would have showed up. 183 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: So I guess I'm not shocked that he's there, but 184 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: I also think that's just smart business. You want to 185 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: be in business with people where there's trust on both sides. 186 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: And I think we've kind of jumped the shark over 187 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: the last three or four years with some of these 188 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: deals and some of these acrimonious situations. Like I appreciate 189 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: some of these contracts that get done. The Eagles are 190 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 2: great at this. They break their guys off early. Everyone's 191 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: happy and there just aren't these weird situations. The chiefs 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: have been pretty consistent, you know, obviously Patrick Mahomes, but 193 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: the way they've treated Travis Kelcey. It got a little 194 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: weird with Chris Jones and clearly they were uncomfortable with 195 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: that and the forty nine ers over the last couple 196 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: of years, some of their situations with Trent Williams, with 197 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, obviously with a YUK with Deebo several years ago, 198 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 2: like it hasn't been smooth, and they don't want to 199 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: go through that with Purdy and Purty doesn't want to 200 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: go through that with them. Now, what do they ultimately 201 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: meet at The average per year is thrown out all 202 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: the time. I do not care about that at all. 203 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: You could tell me the average per year is one 204 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars if they guaranteed them a hundred million 205 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: dollars total, like that's a win And I'm sorry, Like 206 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: I do think how much they paid this player in 207 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: this situation really matters. And I'm not one of those 208 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: people and I've seen this thrown out that they should 209 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: get rid of them, try to draft another guy. If 210 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: the NFL knew that Shador Sanders was gonna be as 211 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: good as brock Party, there is no way he would 212 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: slip back the pass the number two overall pick, like 213 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: brock Party has proven, you can win with them as 214 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: long as your team is good. It's why I've said 215 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: the pressure this offseason is not as much on brock Purty. 216 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: He's established and shown you what he is. It's on 217 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: John and Kyle because like the other quarterbacks in the NFC, 218 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, they really benefit from playing on 219 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: a loaded roster and they're also on long term, highly 220 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: paid contracts. So the forty nine ers have high draft 221 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: picks at pick eleven and the draft high in every round. 222 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: They got multiple third round picks, Like, you got to 223 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: crush this draft if you were gonna do what the 224 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: Rams did a couple of years ago and kind of 225 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: retool your roster, make it cheaper and make it more 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: long term cost effective. You better get the draft right. 227 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: And the pressure right now on the forty nine ers 228 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: front office is enormous. But like I said, not all 229 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: things are equal, and George k did not show up, 230 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: don't totally blame him because if all the guys on 231 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: the team last year, in a devastating season, they won 232 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: six games and going into the season they were the 233 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: favorite to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. He 234 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: was one of the few that had a fantastic season. 235 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: He's thirty one years old, he's going in the last 236 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: year of his contract, like it's time to give him 237 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: an extension, And I don't blame him, like this guy 238 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: laid it on the line in a season when guys 239 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: were injured, guys were disappearing, and they were losing games, 240 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: and he was a second team All Pro and in 241 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: his position, unlike wide receivers or tackles or pass rushers, 242 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't get paid a premium. But I also understand 243 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: if I was him and I'm training in Nashville, like 244 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't really want to come back, And until you 245 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: make it lucrative enough for me to come back, Like, 246 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: you know what I stand for, you know what I 247 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: bring the table from a leadership on and off the 248 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: field standpoint. So that's a situation for the forty nine 249 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: ers that I think is a pretty easy one. You've 250 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: cut all this, you know, in their minds, trimming the 251 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: fat of let all these guys walk and not paying 252 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: any of them, like George Kittle is one of those guys. 253 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: And I'm not always for giving guys third, third, and 254 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: fourth contract extensions, but the way George played last year 255 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: and especially his position, like you can give him like 256 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: guarantee thirty or thirty five million dollars and it's not 257 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: very complicated to figure out. DeVante Adams had some comments 258 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: that he said that his agent told him that the 259 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: forty nine ers who are interested in Adams this offseason 260 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: wanted him at a wholesale price, not at retail prices, 261 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: or basically that they were willing to pay wholesale prices. 262 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: They weren't cutting retail type checks. And he laughed at 263 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: at like, I'm not a wholesale player. And John Lynch 264 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,359 Speaker 2: came out today and denied it. And listen, the offseason 265 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: does not determine your success and failure in terms of 266 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: like teams that win free agency and teams that melk Kiper, 267 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: who I'm pro Melkiper, But part of the business is 268 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: giving teams draft grades. The day after Saturday happens. It's 269 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: like ay c b F. It's like no one has 270 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: any freaking clue, not a soul out of the league 271 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: or in the league. But like the forty nine ers, 272 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: I would say, for the first time in many, many years, 273 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: feel like they have some negative, some a black cloud 274 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: kind of around the organization in terms of positive momentum 275 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: in comments like this, like don't necessarily make them look 276 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: great now. John Lynch denied it. He said, one hundred percent, 277 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: I've never said that. He was asked if Kyle would 278 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: have said that, he laughed. He said, Kyle does not 279 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: talk to agents, so one hundred percent. He didn't say that. 280 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: There's nothing they can really do this offseason to shut 281 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: everyone up. It's just gonna come this fall and they're 282 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: gonna have to win games, and they're gonna have to 283 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: do it with a lot of new players on the roster. 284 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: And listen, it's the NFL. 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: You get new players every single year in the roster, 286 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: but they're gonna have a lot of turnover and they 287 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: are gonna be very, very dependent on young players to 288 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: have an impact immediately. And obviously they're gonna have a 289 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: quarterback back who sometime between now and sometime in training 290 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: camp is going to have a new contract and have 291 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: a ton of added pressure to play at a Pro 292 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: Bowl level. Because it's one thing when you get to listen, 293 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm playing for a million dollars a year. 294 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: Whatever you're getting is gravy and that. 295 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: That's there's truth to that, right, But the moment I 296 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: give you, you know, one hundred and fifty one hundred 297 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: and seventy five million dollars guaranteed and the biggest contract 298 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: in the history of the franchise, there is a huge 299 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: amount of pressure. Then that immediately amps up what was 300 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: already there. And he is obviously one of the most 301 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: polarizing players in the league. Kyle's one of the most 302 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: polarizing coaches in the league. And I mean when you 303 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: are Super Bowl less and a guy like Nick Sirianni 304 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: has a Super Bowl and the Eagles seem loaded, the 305 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: Lions seem loaded, you got Washington, that's an up and 306 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: coming team, you got the Rams that are gonna have 307 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: a ton of momentum coming in. You know, in a 308 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: weird way, the forty nine ers should get to fly 309 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: under the radar. But we know that's not what's gonna happen. 310 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: So the forty nine ers are going to just continue 311 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: to be you know, I would say most people are 312 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: gonna pick against them. Well, big couple of days coming 313 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: up Thursday and Friday for John Lynching Company. The Titans 314 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: all but confirmed what we already knew. Mike Borgonzi today 315 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: said that we are sticking at one and we're all 316 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: on the same page. Ak, we are taking cam Ward. Listen, 317 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: anytime that you go through a season with Will Levis 318 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: and who I think he called a quarterback in our room, 319 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: so not exactly. I don't even think there's a lock. 320 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: If you told me Will Levis is traded for like 321 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: a seventh round pick to another team, I'd be a 322 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: little stunned off. Will Levis on the team for the 323 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: Titans in twenty twenty five. My guest is he somewhere else? 324 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't, and I do think they could probably ship 325 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: him for like a future seventh like they basically give 326 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: him away. But Cam Ward is gonna get the keys 327 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: of this franchise, and if he is just solid, I 328 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: don't know if they could be a playoff team, but 329 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: they could be a much more or serviceable operation that 330 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: they were last year, which was basically an embarrassment. Chris 331 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: Ballard had some interesting comments. I would say, if I'm 332 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, I better come in with basically my hair 333 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: on fire. I mean, I better be just full steam 334 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: ahead off season activities, OTAs the meetings. I mean, every 335 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: time I step into that building, I better be as 336 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: locked in and focused as I've ever been in my 337 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: entire life. Because Chris Ballard made a comment like his 338 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: competition is Daniel Jones, and we all laugh at that. 339 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: They believe in him, and Chris Ballard said, like, I 340 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: believe that both quarterbacks will help us this upcoming season. 341 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: Like they don't have much belief right now in Anthony Richardson. 342 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: And that's what happens when you get drafted really high 343 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: and you underwhelm on and off the field. I mean, 344 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: the situation with him tapping out, the way he was 345 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: kind of you know, bench, the way his teammates had 346 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: to talk to him, like they're just not that high 347 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: on them, and I don't blame them. How could they be? Now? 348 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: Do I like their contingency playing with Daniel Jones. I 349 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: think it's a little insane. I think it's borderline crazy. 350 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: But they did that. And listen, their head coach is 351 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: not going to go down being embarrassed on offense right 352 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: anytime that you are an offensive quote unquote guru and 353 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: your quarterback can't complete basic routes and you can't get 354 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: first down because he can't hit wheel routes or basic 355 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: out routes, and you think that just an inaccurate quarterback. 356 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: And Ballard's been talking about this. You can't play quarterback 357 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: at a high level if you are consistently inaccurate. They 358 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: will look for someone else. And they've already proven this 359 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: offseason that they believe that they had to bring in competition. 360 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: It's an open competition. You know. Ballard, which I think 361 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: makes people nervous, said like, you know me, Shane, Jim Bob, 362 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator, Jim Rsy. People like, wait, Jim Mercey 363 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: is involved in the quarterback decision. I think he's just 364 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: kind of playing corporate manager, like being smart. Do I 365 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: think Jim Mersey is going to be the guy pulling 366 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: the trigger on who's starting. I don't. I think sometimes 367 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: you just like you just have to say that out loud. 368 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: But I would say that Anthony Richardson's job is very 369 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: much in jeopardy, and that they're already showing by their 370 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: words because we know by their actions they weren't cool 371 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: with it. By their words. Now they've doubled down and 372 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: their actions of bringing another guy like he better play 373 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: well because I think if all things are equal, they'll 374 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: go with Daniel Jones. And last, but not at least, 375 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: Peter Schrager mentioned today on on Espen, his new employer, 376 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: that the Browns and the Giants are getting calls for 377 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: pick two and three. And what I think is so 378 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 2: fascinating about this draft is it's viewed as like a 379 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: three player draft, really a two player draft in terms 380 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: of Abdull Carter and Travis Hunter are big time prospect. Obviously, 381 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 2: Aston Genty is viewed as one of the best players 382 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: in this draft, and then everything else is just a crapshoot, right. 383 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: I mean, every guy once you start moving down like 384 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: Will Campbell, people love the guy, but the short arms 385 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: things make people very very uncomfortable. I think Jalen Walker 386 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: of Georgia, who if you just throw on that Texas 387 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: game in the regular season, the guy looks like Lawrence 388 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: Taylor meets TJ. Watt meets Miles Garrett. He was an 389 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 2: unstoppable force. He's six foot one, you know. I mean, 390 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: if if he was six', five he'd probably be the 391 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: number two overall. Pick but every got you, Know Mason, 392 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: Graham he's just not that, tall which is not the 393 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: end all be, all but people do like you to 394 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: look the part When i'm gonna draft you, three, four, five, 395 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Right AND i think this, Draft i'll be stunned if 396 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: there are a lot of trades for teams trading. UP 397 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: i don't expect that to, happen because in a draft 398 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: when there's a reason this is the first, draft more 399 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: than likely we're gonna go Into thursday night without one 400 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: first round trade before the start of the, draft which 401 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: is unheard. OF i, mean it does not. Happen typically 402 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: we have like Several but in a draft that isn't 403 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: viewed as, good doesn't have the quarterback star, power that's 404 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: not going to take. Place SO i actually expect a 405 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: lot of teams trying to trade. Back But the problem 406 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: is it takes two to. Tango and IF i don't 407 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: love the prospects as a front, office as A, Gm 408 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: i'm not trading. Up why WOULDN'T i just wait WHERE 409 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: i am and let someone fall into my. Lap SO 410 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: i think there's going to be a lot of teams 411 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: on the Horn, Tuesday, Wednesday thursday morning begging teams to come. 412 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 2: Up AND i think it's going to be, very very 413 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: difficult to find a trade. PARTNER i really, do because 414 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: if you are a team at pick, ten at, fifteen at, 415 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: twenty at twenty, five why would You it's one thing 416 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: to move a spot or, two but to do like 417 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: the twenty to ten or fifteen to eight like that 418 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: is not. Cheap that is Not you have to typically 419 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: pay prema to move up, five, eight ten spots in 420 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: the first, round even if it's like obviously you got 421 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: to pay, extra usually when it's. Quarterbacks but there is 422 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: just a basic going rate based on the chart of 423 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: moving From and Again i'm Just i'm not necessarily picking. 424 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Teams i'm just using examples fourteen to six or twenty to, 425 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: eleven like there are one there's precedent teams that have 426 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: made similar. Trades and then there's just a chart of 427 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: like this is what it, Costs so, like why AM 428 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: i gonna give a second round pick a third round 429 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: pick to move up four or five spots WHEN i 430 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: can essentially get a similar group of. Players All i've 431 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: heard from my, friends and a lot of these guys 432 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: draft in the, twenties so they're not as caught up 433 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: and Like Abdul carter and The Travis, hunters but they 434 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: say the difference of the guy that's gonna go somewhere 435 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: between like nine and fourteen and the dude that's gonna 436 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: go twenty five to thirty, two it's not very. Deep 437 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: why because this is a, Draft AND i bet some 438 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: of these gms in their post draft press, conferences which 439 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: they usually, do we'll say comments like, this we had 440 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: seven first round guys. Graded we had ten first round 441 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: grades in a good, draft usually that number somewhere between 442 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: twenty to twenty. FOUR i think a couple of years, 443 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: AGO i Remember John schneider said they had like. Seventeen 444 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: but obviously if you have seventeen first round grades on 445 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: players and you draft twenty, fourth there's a decent chance 446 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: that all those guys are. Gone now everyone boards a little. 447 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Different there's a decent chance that guy's still. There but 448 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: there are gonna be a lot of teams drafting in 449 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: the first. Round they're gonna draft guys that they don't 450 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: feel that comfortable based on their draft, grade not that 451 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: they don't like the, player not that they don't think 452 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: the player is. Good but If i'm drafting at pick 453 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: thirteen AND i only had eight first round talents in 454 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: the draft and they all went somewhere in the top, 455 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: TWELVE i them am drafting a guy and paying him 456 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: the thirteenth overall based on the wage, scale BUT i 457 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: Think i'm getting a second round. Player so that's what 458 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: makes drafts like. This and, again none of this determines 459 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: how good these guys will. Be there are gonna be 460 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: a ton of guys in the top twelve picks that 461 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: will not get their fifth year option picked, up just 462 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: like they're going to be several guys in the, twenties the, 463 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: thirties the forties that will go on to Be Pro, 464 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 2: bowl high level. Starters but we don't have any of that. 465 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: Information so it's all based on how they were as a. Prospect, 466 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: Right so Cam ward could be better than every quarterback 467 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: in last year's. Draft that can, happen, right but right, 468 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: now if you pulled every team in the. LEAGUE i 469 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: Saw schefter put out something. Today he said one, team 470 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: and it's easy to do when you're like The. Bills 471 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: But i'm not saying they were the team that told him. 472 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: This do not have a first round grade on any 473 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: of the, quarterbacks on any of, them and obviously that 474 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: includes Cam. Ward so anytime you have these, situations there 475 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: is gonna be huge discrepancies team to. Team that also 476 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: means you were gonna see players like based on the mock, 477 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: drafts there are gonna be some players that are gonna 478 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: be locks to go relatively high top, twelve, right we 479 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: know the top couple, guys But Will, campbell A Mason, graham. 480 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: Whoever but all of a, sudden Like Will, johnson he 481 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: might be there at pick twenty, eight where before the 482 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: season people thought he was like a top ten, pick 483 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: and all of a, sudden it's, like, wait he went 484 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: he went to The, lions, right or he went to The. 485 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: Rams so you got to be very careful in years 486 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: like this with mock drafts because you get very used 487 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: to certain players going at certain, levels and then the 488 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: draft comes and all of a, sudden the eighth pick 489 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: is some guy that you haven't really heard of or consistently, 490 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: seen like you've seen him mocked in the, twenties and 491 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: all of a sudden he goes. Eight that is going to, 492 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 2: happen and it's simply because in a draft like, this 493 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: the grades are gonna be all over the freaking map 494 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: when it comes to, gms when it comes to front, 495 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: offices and more, specifically when these coaches get. Involved because 496 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: like it or, not if you're the general manager the 497 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: scouting departments, coaches the highest paid guy in your front 498 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: office slash coaching staff is the head. Coach there is 499 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: NOT i would Say howie is probably the only guy 500 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: right now as Of april twenty second that makes more 501 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: than his head. Coach but If sirianni gets a contract, 502 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: extension he is going to be making. More, now that's 503 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: not going to change the internal. Dynamic but if you 504 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: just go around like less neat really high LEVEL, gm 505 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: he doesn't make even close to What sean McVay. Makes 506 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 2: John lynch a lot of success as A, Gm Kyle 507 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: shanian makes double what the guy. Makes so you get 508 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: these situations that if the coach really wants, something and 509 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: sometimes it's not just, him it's like his assistant, coaches quarterback, coaches, 510 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: coordinators d line. 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Draft it's gonna be interesting draft. Class i'll 557 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 6: tell you that there's a lot of a lot of 558 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 6: guys that. 559 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: ARE i, guess on paper pretty. 560 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 6: Good it didn't produce a whole lot and you're hoping, 561 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 6: that you, know things catch up to them and a 562 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 6: lot of development need to Be some guys have already 563 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: put a lot of good stuff on, tape but don't 564 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 6: have the, measurable so to. Speak so interesting interesting draft. 565 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: Class how'd you balance as a head coach listening to 566 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: your assistant coaches in their? Opinions obviously the front office 567 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: and this scouts have a lot of, opinions but then 568 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: the coaches get involved pretty heavily right right post, combine 569 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: right around the, combine and then really dive in over 570 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: the past, month and they got they got, opinions and 571 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: they obviously got friends and coaching. Friends so how do 572 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: you balance that this time of? 573 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Year exactly. 574 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 6: RIGHT i welcomed all the opinions so long AS i 575 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 6: knew that they were actually watching it and did their, 576 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: work you know WHAT i. MEAN i took a lot 577 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 6: of you, KNOW i like listening to different. OPINIONS i. 578 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 6: DIDN'T i never thought that my opinion was the. 579 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: Only one that. Mattered you. 580 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 6: KNOW i like to have people differ with me SO 581 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 6: i can go back and see their point of view 582 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 6: and then maybe change my. Mind SOMETIMES i change their, 583 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 6: Mind BUT i think the more opinions the. Better, obviously 584 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 6: you have to come up with one at the end 585 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 6: of the. Day everybody has to respect the final. Decision 586 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 6: hopefully it's a team. Decision they may disagree with, you 587 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 6: which happened to me a. Lot we took a lot 588 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 6: of guys THAT i did not, want but you, know 589 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 6: some of them turned out to be. 590 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: Good some of THEM i was right, on. 591 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 6: Damnit but, yeah you have to thinking about everybody's opinion 592 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 6: because you respect, it and you go back and try 593 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 6: to figure out. 594 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Which is best for your. 595 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: Team you, KNOW i get asked a. Lot obviously the scouting. 596 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: Calendar you know your area scouts were watching these. Guys 597 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: you know your gms watching the top guys throughout the. 598 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: Fall when you're, coaching when did you dive? IN? Uh 599 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: and then free agency comes obviously a month, before so 600 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: you've got to be on top of those guys and 601 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: knowing your own guys and then doing the self cut 602 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: ups and edits of your own. Team when did you 603 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: start watching? Guys and you know of a, class let's 604 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: just pick a, number two hundred and fifty guys in the. 605 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: Class how many of those guys were you actually? 606 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 6: WATCHING i was watching a lot more than probably any 607 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 6: other coach right after the right after free, agency once 608 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 6: we graded all the free, agents our own free agents 609 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 6: one and then the street free agents from other teams 610 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: in THE, nfl how we can better our football team 611 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 6: right away a free. Agency THEN i dove into the 612 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 6: college football tape AND i really like to watch THE 613 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 6: uh like to kind of wait till after. 614 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: THAT i try to watch. IT i try to make. 615 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 6: Tapes with the sixty guys we'd interview at the, combine 616 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 6: So i'd start with those guys, first So i'd do 617 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 6: the sixty, guys we'd interview the. Combine i'd make a 618 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 6: tape and each one of those, guys so WHEN i 619 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 6: did the, INTERVIEW i was prepared to see what their 620 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 6: strengths or what the weakness is, worth SO i get 621 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 6: to really get them. 622 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: Down for fifteen. 623 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 6: MINUTES i would start with those, guys and after THAT 624 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 6: i would go dive into everybody else and watch a 625 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 6: senior bowl at The East West. Rine watch your, combine 626 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 6: if they participate in the, combine watch your highlight, tape 627 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 6: watch the game. 628 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: Film so, yeah it. Was it was a good. 629 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 6: Process but once you got all the information, together able 630 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 6: to put the cutups together and you can watch it 631 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 6: a little bit. 632 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Quicker BUT i. 633 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 6: Tried to watch as many AS i could because you, 634 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 6: FIGURE i get seven rounds worth of the. Guys that's 635 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: that's a lot of, guys about two hundred ft eight 636 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: three inndred. 637 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: Guys would you have the scouting department give you kind 638 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: of the, layout position by? Position would you approach it 639 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: by kind of? Rounds what would be your plan of? 640 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: Attack i'd like. 641 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: To have our, board you know how we ranked them 642 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 6: for a, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth seventh. Rounds so 643 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 6: i'd Go i'd have, that But i'd also DO i 644 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 6: liked it by team, actually because IF i was Watching 645 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 6: alabama Play, GEORGIA i want to know all the guys 646 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 6: On georgia and all the guys In. Alabama SO i 647 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 6: kind of knock out eight or ten guys at. ONCE 648 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 6: i kind of did. THAT i also find some free, 649 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 6: agents some street free agents that way as. Well SO 650 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 6: i tried to watch as many games AS i. 651 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Could but that's. 652 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 6: Once ONCE i narrowed it, DOWN i started watching individual. 653 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 6: Guys LIKE i, Said i'd watch a couple of, games 654 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 6: And i'd watched Their Senior bowl at all their practices 655 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 6: at The Senior, bowl they're pro day and obviously they're 656 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 6: combined and get my. 657 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: Evaluation, WELL i was gonna start with SOME nfl, questions 658 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: but we might as well just stay on. THIS i 659 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 2: was watching a lot of videos that you do with 660 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: a kind of A scottsdale crew WITH aq And Justin, 661 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: pugh AND i Think colt moved back To, texas but 662 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: you know he lived IN az for a long. Time 663 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: let's just start with the top. Guy all signs point 664 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: to it being a, lock kind of a crazy. CAREER 665 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: i mean when you first got into. Football these guys 666 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: playing at three, programs and not just for a. YEAR i, 667 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: mean the dude From louisville had three different. Careers but 668 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 2: same with Cam, ward multiple years an incarnate, word multiple 669 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: years on THE pac, twelve then obviously At. MIAMI i 670 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: was just, thinking, YEAH i just got back from the, 671 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: gym took a. Shower you, know his, story this transfer 672 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: portal wouldn't have it. Existed he would have been drafted last. 673 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: Year and let's say the fourth round or. 674 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: Whatever think how much money he made on two, fronts, 675 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: right going To miami getting paid millions and then improving his. 676 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: Stock obviously he's. Talented what are your thoughts of watching 677 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: him during the fall and obviously just kind of breaking 678 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: down some of those. 679 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: Games, YEAH i think you're. 680 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 6: RIGHT i think a lot of these guys have so 681 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 6: much tape now to watch mass it's, crazy. 682 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: You. 683 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 6: Know, so but his, improvement you, know it was very 684 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 6: similar To jaden last, year where he watched him play 685 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 6: At Arizona state for three years and then Obviously i'll see 686 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 6: for two you can just see a steady rise of. 687 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 6: Improvement cam's a little bit like, that not to the 688 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 6: extent of jade in my. Opinion but he's got the arm, 689 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 6: talent he's got the quick, whip he's got the, accuracy 690 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 6: he's got the, anticipation he's got the. 691 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: Poise sometimes it's too much. 692 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 6: Poise he's, chilling you, know not moving a, muscle skirting 693 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 6: out of, bounds and all the cool stuff that he. 694 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 6: Does But i'm more interested in the way he handles, 695 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 6: pressure which he does pretty. Well he can escape pressure 696 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 6: with his, legs he can avoid pressure with his slight 697 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 6: movement in the. Pocket still stamp tall as a, passer 698 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 6: and they could throw a different arm angles and he's 699 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 6: a pretty damn acurate and he's got. 700 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: The enough arm. 701 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 6: Talent SO i think all steience points him being the 702 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 6: best quarterback in the draft just because of his, steady 703 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 6: consistent production as Zach arstina's arm talent and is. 704 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: ATHLETICISM i saw that you, were may correct me If i'm. 705 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: Wrong high On Tyler, shuck the quarterback coming out Of. 706 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: LOUISVILLE i don't know if you've seen the picture going 707 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 2: viral of him going to the prom With. Purty they 708 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: were the same, age and party's four year starter in 709 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: college and the three year starter in THE nfl and 710 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: this guy What i'm talking. About three year career At, 711 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: oregon three year Career, tech and then one year At. 712 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: Louisville the guy's been in college longer in. Doctors but 713 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: he's a guy that's a very fascinating. Prospect if you 714 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: AND i were in a draft, Room i'd say coach 715 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: this guy's. AGE i, mean he should have a huge. 716 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: Advantage you, know this is some of THOSE byu kids 717 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: that were twenty five manhandling kids for years because they 718 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: would go on the. Mission that would leave me a. 719 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: PAUSE i know he can spin. IT i know people 720 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: are high on, him but what a mental advantage he 721 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: had against his. 722 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 6: COMPETITION i was twenty, SIX i, PLAYED i already played 723 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 6: four years in The Arena Football league For god's. 724 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: Sake you, know it is a huge. 725 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 6: Advantage you think about, it the, maturity you, know he 726 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 6: had some clean bone, breaks the injury. History obviously he's a. 727 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 6: CONCERN i think the medical teams will have to take 728 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 6: a look. At but obviously he's. Okay AND i Know 729 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 6: Jeff brom pretty well From university of Louis BUT i 730 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 6: talked to him a lot about, him and he loves his, 731 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 6: competitiveness His, obviously his arm talent is what it is 732 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 6: on what you see on, tape very, strong very. Accurate 733 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 6: he's got. Athleticism so, YEAH i think you, say man 734 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 6: for a young kid who gotta take, You, well he's not. 735 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: Young he's twenty. Six you, know you got to weigh 736 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: all that. 737 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: In SO. 738 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what the. 739 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 6: Thing you, know WHEN i first saw him play on 740 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 6: tape At, LOUIS i wasn't that, impressed you, Know And 741 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 6: i'm talking To Jeff brom and going back to watch him, 742 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 6: again and you, know see him through with the. Combine 743 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 6: he had some weird throws trying to stick around and 744 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 6: throw a side arm and miss the guys by twenty 745 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 6: yards here and. There BUT i think if you're looking 746 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 6: for a guy in the second or third, ROUND i 747 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 6: think and you might have a veteran type quarterback on your, 748 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 6: roster maybe like The rams or somebody like. That you 749 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 6: get them in the building for a, year see how he. 750 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 6: DOES i think he'd be worth a. 751 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 2: Shot can you explain to, people BECAUSE i get asked 752 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: this a, lot and you've been in on these meetings for. 753 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: Years a guy that's had broken legs or torn acls 754 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: or messed up, shoulders but going into the combine they 755 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: get a clean bill. Health they're, healthy but their history is. 756 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: Long so you're not a. Doctor your GM's not a. 757 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 2: Doctor you're dependent on your trainers and doctors when they, 758 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: say you, Know i'm not that comfortable here and you 759 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 2: like the player or vice. Versa he's, cleaned but you 760 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 2: don't aren't comfortable with his availability over the. Years how 761 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: do you balance that in these conversations leading up to the. 762 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: Draft that's very. 763 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 6: Difficult AND i have to trust the trainers and the. 764 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 6: Doctors if they flunk a guy and they say he's 765 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 6: long term going to be an, issue we take them 766 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 6: off the, board don't draft. Them AND i can remember some, 767 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 6: Guys i'm, like some bitch is still you, Know, yeah 768 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 6: thanks for the tip, there, Doc but THAT'S i, mean 769 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 6: you have to have Because i'm not a, DOCTOR i 770 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 6: have no. Idea they're, like, well he's gonna suffer from, 771 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 6: tananitis he's gonna have this or, this and he's going 772 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 6: to continue to swell and get. WORSE i don't, Know 773 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 6: SO i have to take it for their word AND 774 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 6: i just take them off the. Board so, YEAH i 775 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 6: think there's a lot of. ISSUES i think a lot 776 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 6: of teams have Different they have the red dots for the, 777 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 6: medical they have the black dots for the. Personal they 778 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 6: might take them guys off the board if they're a bad. 779 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 6: Person uh, so, yeah you have to have you have 780 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 6: to have some kind of. Standards that's Why i'm trying 781 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 6: to get. Out otherwise everybody's alive and you're just picking, 782 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 6: bear you, know you're just blind. 783 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: Picking did you have non negotiables from a from a 784 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: personal slash character? 785 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: Standpoint, yeah oh, yeah we had those. Two so, yeah 786 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: we you, know that was. 787 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 6: Tough you, know it's some of the, guys you, know 788 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 6: their background in history is pretty. Rough for their character was. 789 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 6: Rough we didn't want to. Take but some guys are, 790 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 6: like he's pretty damn good, THOUGH i think we can 791 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 6: work with. 792 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: Them we'll keep a close eye on. 793 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 6: Him and we did take some chances with some guys 794 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 6: bad character backgrounds we probably. 795 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: Shouldn't have ended up working, out and some of them 796 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: didn't work. 797 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 2: Out so, yeah can you tell early on whether it's 798 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: OTAs or training, camp like we might have screwed this 799 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 2: up or damn we we were probably too too low 800 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: on this. 801 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 3: Guy he's even better than we. 802 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 6: Thought, yeah it happens a, lot you, Know Like terry 803 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 6: mclaurin's a great. Example got him a third round For god's, 804 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 6: sakes and he came in and he was so good 805 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 6: in training. Camp we didn't play him in a preseason. 806 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 6: GAME i was, like hell, that we're not going to 807 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 6: show anybody. 808 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: What this guy can. Do and his explosiveness as ability to. 809 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 6: Learn quick and run every kind of route and snatch the. 810 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 6: BALL i, mean, yeah so's there's been pleasant surprises like. 811 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 6: That not all of them are like. That we've had 812 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 6: other ones on the flip. End guys come in we 813 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 6: dropped in the first round that come in. HURT i 814 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 6: got bad, FEET i got bad, HEELS i can't, PRACTICE 815 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 6: i can't do, this and uh, yeah so it's. Tough 816 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 6: it's a tough, process, man but it's. Fun it's It's 817 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 6: my favorite part of coaching really was the develop the 818 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 6: uh the chance to take a look at all these 819 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 6: guys in college and watch their COLLEGE i learned a 820 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 6: lot of football watching college, tape and obviously the evaluation 821 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 6: process of college kids AND nfl guys in free AGENCY 822 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 6: i think is the most important part of being a 823 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 6: head coach and then you got to develop players and 824 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 6: obviously coach them on game, day but you got to 825 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 6: get the right players in your. Building and if you, 826 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 6: don't have no. Chance and unfortunately we had some good. 827 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 6: Players we've had a lot of. 828 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: Injuries, yeah for. SURE i MEAN i Remember Chris, thompson 829 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: a little running. Back that guy was. 830 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: Sweet, yeah that's what it. Was wedding the other. Day, 831 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: man he's. 832 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: Awesome yeah a guy when he was, healthy he was 833 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: he was a. Badass. Okay Shador sanders obviously probably the 834 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: most polarizing guy in this. Draft what are your thoughts 835 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: on him as a? 836 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 6: Player you, KNOW i think that He's he's handled the 837 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 6: pressure extremely, well Being Deona sanders', son being A Jackson 838 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 6: state with all the eyeballs on, him and then going 839 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 6: To colorado and expectations of what he's supposed to. DO 840 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 6: i think he performed at a pretty high. Level he's, 841 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 6: accurate he's got a good, armies anticipates things very. WELL 842 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 6: i think at times he takes way too many, sacks 843 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 6: holds a ball too. LONG i just, feel deep, down you, 844 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 6: KNOW i feel like he's worried about his completion percentage 845 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 6: more so than doing the right. 846 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: Thing for the team and throwing the damn ball. Away 847 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: it drives me. 848 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 6: Crazy he's had many opportunities to throw some of these 849 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 6: balls and take sixty four sacks or whatever it is. 850 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 6: Is that's too many for guy athletic like. 851 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: That. 852 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 6: Now you, know his offensive line wasn't, great but they 853 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 6: weren't that. Bad that's the only ISSUE i have with. 854 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 6: Him but he's obviously a good, player good football, makeup 855 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 6: obviously good, jeans and he has the arm talent to 856 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 6: be pretty, successful not, overlywhelming not overwhelming arm. 857 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: Talent they can really drive it in. There you, know 858 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: you worry. 859 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 6: About a playing a windy stadium or what have. You 860 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 6: BUT i think with the short intermediate passes which most 861 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 6: teams are running now, anyways he can throw it on you, 862 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 6: know throw it on the money and anticipate it and 863 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 6: give guys opportunity to run and run with the ball 864 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 6: after they catch. It so, YEAH i think he's going 865 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 6: to be a good. 866 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: Prospect You, NO i have some friends that have like 867 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: high school kids that play basketball, now and they, say 868 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: you go to some of these games and these kids 869 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: shooting threes like they think They're Steph. Curry it's, like 870 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: what are you, Doing and it does feel like The 871 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: Patrick mahomes generation of you saw last year With. Caleb, 872 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: obviously Cam ward plays a little bit like That. Shadoor you, 873 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 2: know when you got into, football it was get rid 874 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: of the, ball be. Accurate most guys couldn't, move so 875 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: they didn't have a. Choice right in the nineties and 876 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 2: the two, thousands those guys don't really. EXIST i, MEAN i, 877 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 2: mean is there A Kirk cousins level athlete in this draft? 878 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: Class and really the last couple of, years all these, guys. 879 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: You, Know Deon sanders' son is viewed as not a 880 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: great athlete relative to his, dad but relative to Like 881 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: Carson palmer or, something he moves a lot. Better so it's, 882 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: LIKE i do, wonder one is that player, dead the 883 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: guy that just can't move in just a pocket quarterback 884 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 2: that it doesn't feel like they exist anymore in college? 885 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: Football and two is that just always going to be 886 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: a problem with most of these athletic guys of just 887 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: especially in college and? Something can you coach it out of? 888 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: Him and is it a death knell like It's, Caleb, 889 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 2: like is that a coachable? Attribute because he battled that last? 890 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 6: Year, yeah he didn't battle that last, year and it 891 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 6: is a. Problem you, know some of the more some 892 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 6: of the most athletic quarterbacks take the most. Sacks you're, 893 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 6: like what the, hell oh. Man you, know, however athleticism 894 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 6: at that quarterback position gives you a lot more options 895 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 6: of the play, caller and you, know with the zone 896 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 6: reads and the RPOs and some of the bootlegs and 897 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 6: the quarterback design, runs it makes it a lot easier 898 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 6: as to play color and it makes harder on defensive 899 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 6: coordinators quite, Frankly so you want to put that type 900 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 6: of quarterback in less positions to get. Sacked, obviously if 901 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 6: you're behind two touchdowns or it's third and eight all, 902 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 6: day you're gonna have major. Issues but you can control 903 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 6: it based on your play call on first and second. 904 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 6: Now so but, yeah you're, right some of these athletic 905 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 6: quarterbacks do take more sacks for whatever. Reason there's something 906 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 6: you got to continue to coach them out of it 907 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 6: and make sure they get rid of the ball and 908 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 6: understand that second and ten and third and ten is 909 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 6: to have a lot better than third. 910 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: Eighteen and second and. 911 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 6: Eighteen so negative players are will kill you as a 912 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 6: play caller and as a team on offense and you 913 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 6: just got to coach it out of. 914 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 2: Them would you feel comfortable Taking shador in the first? 915 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 6: ROUND i, would, yeah IF i really needed a. Quarterback, 916 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 6: YEAH i mean some of these teams don't have. One you, 917 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 6: know you're looking At cleveland are gonna go With, FLACO i, 918 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 6: guess and The giants are going to go at thirty 919 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 6: nine year Old Russell wilson And Jamis winston. 920 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: And uh so these other. Teams you, know you're, crazy it's. 921 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 6: Crazy you, know my last year At jacksonville's offensive, quarter 922 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 6: we Had Gardner minshew is. Hurting then we're going With 923 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 6: Jake luton And Mike, lennon And i'm looking across the, 924 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 6: FIELD i See Matthew stafford warming, up and this is 925 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 6: an even fair. MAN i, mean come, on you got 926 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 6: to hit the trigger. 927 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: MAN i, mean it's like doing layup. 928 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 6: Drill you're looking across At Michael jordan and you got 929 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 6: some little swall five foot nine guys gonna guard. Him you're, like, 930 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 6: oh we might as. Well what what are we even 931 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 6: playing a game? For Uh, so, yeah you gotta find 932 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 6: a trigger. MAN i, think uh there's a lot to 933 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 6: like about these. Guys you just gotta you gotta make 934 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 6: sure they have the right personality fit for your, staff 935 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 6: and they have a skill that you can develop as a. 936 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 6: Coach and and these, guys you, Know i've never met 937 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 6: with any of them. 938 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: Before these guys want to get. 939 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 6: Better the issue is these guys already got millions of 940 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 6: dollars in their pocket when they come to your a. 941 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 6: Building so, Yes but but the important thing for these 942 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 6: guys to understand they got to get to their second. 943 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 6: Contract to get, there they got to perform high, up early. 944 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,280 Speaker 6: Leveled ideally for a guy like Shador, is he would 945 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 6: play maybe for a year Behind Russell, wilson learn from 946 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 6: a better quarterback like like better a year behind A Joe, 947 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 6: flacco so he can learn how these guys, prepare just 948 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 6: get his feet, wet understand, systems audibles at the line of, 949 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 6: scrimmage what coaches are looking, for how to prepare each, 950 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 6: week how each week is a different game. Plan people 951 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 6: are rushing these guys into duty and there's not many C. 952 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 6: J Stroudser Jaden. Daniels they have that type of success as a. 953 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 2: Rookie you, know so and you Coach alex WHO i 954 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: think is a good example of someone that overcame dysfunction and. 955 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 2: Craziness but HE'S i mean from a mental toughness. Standpoint, 956 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 2: obviously the story about you, know the leg situations well. 957 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 2: Documented it's you, know he's got pretty elite mental. Toughness 958 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 2: AND i think you see guy now Like Baker mayfield 959 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 2: clearly right up there as. Well most, guys that's tsunami 960 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 2: and negativity and. Failure it just because you're going typically 961 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 2: when you're drafted higher to shittier, teams and it can 962 00:45:59,520 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: learning your. 963 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 6: Career look At Sam darnold's AND i wouldn't be surprised 964 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 6: if some other guys come out of this whirlwind of 965 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 6: hate and do pretty. Good you never know About Will. 966 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 6: LEVITZ i, mean he's going to get benched for a rookie, 967 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 6: quarterback and maybe he'll get better in two or three 968 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 6: years and learn how to calm down and play with 969 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 6: a little bit more poise and play within. Himself and 970 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 6: there's a lot of guys out. There Kenny, PICKETT i, 971 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 6: mean maybe he'll get Another Daniel, Jones maybe he'll get. 972 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: Another opportunity to. 973 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 6: Succeed some of these guys have been through the ringer 974 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 6: and had a lot of negativity throwing their. Way and 975 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 6: that's why the most important thing about being quarterback other 976 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 6: talent is your mental. Toughness you got to build to handle. 977 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 6: Adversity and a lot of these guys haven't had to handle, 978 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 6: adversity and when it gets thrown their, way some of 979 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 6: them can't handle, it quite, frankly and they and they 980 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 6: go in a tank and they never and they point to, 981 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 6: Finger they blame everybody else but, themselves and they. 982 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: Don't come out of. 983 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 6: It but some of them that can handle, it they 984 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 6: come out of it fine and still perform. 985 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: At a high level at some point in their. 986 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 2: Career do you think later round or undrafted free agents 987 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: as their career, goes even when they prove their decent 988 00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: get discriminated. 989 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: Again where a guy drafted high. 990 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: Like A Daniel Jones BECAUSE i got to asked the other, 991 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 2: day Like Tyson badget remember that story last year they 992 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 2: came out dudes on The bears wanted him to play 993 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: When caleb was really. Struggling AND i don't know if 994 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: you saw the hard knocks clip Of Matt ryan was a, 995 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 2: practice was, Like, god this guy looks. Fantastic Now Shepard. 996 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 2: COLLEGE i couldn't even point that thing out on a, 997 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 2: map you, know undrafted free, agent it's gonna be difficult 998 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 2: for him ever to get an. Opportunity but you see 999 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 2: some of these Guys Daniel, jones you Got Chris ballard's, like, 1000 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: yea you might end up being our. Starter it's, LIKE 1001 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: i don't. KNOW i, mean it's just it does feel 1002 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 2: when you are drafted high at any, position but specifically, 1003 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: quarterback that even when you, struggle you do get more. Shots, 1004 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 2: Now Sam, Donald Baker, mayfield sometimes it works. Out so 1005 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 2: it's LIKE i totally understand, why but it is difficult to. 1006 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 2: Overcome is it fair to say when you are a 1007 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 2: much later round pick and you don't really get to 1008 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 2: play that, much even though you actually might be pretty 1009 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: good if you're ever given the. 1010 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 6: Opportunity, YEAH i think most guys that get drafted, high 1011 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 6: they get drafted high for a reason because of their 1012 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 6: success in college or, height weight or. 1013 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: Speed that's skill set that they. 1014 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 6: Have these guys that are drafted in the later, rounds you, 1015 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 6: know they might have some kind of attribute that might 1016 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 6: be interesting that you think you could, develop but there 1017 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 6: are no more sight on seeing like a small college 1018 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 6: Like Shepherd. College you, know these Guys, hell a lot 1019 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 6: of some guys didn't even Scout Sheppard, college so they 1020 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 6: don't know a lot about, them. Right so if they 1021 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 6: don't have anything on tape other than the games that he, 1022 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 6: played which he played pretty damn good when he did 1023 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 6: play for The, bars they, did you, know that's all 1024 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 6: you have to show other. Teams so that's why it's 1025 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 6: probably less likely for them to get multiple opportunities it 1026 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 6: is for a guy that's been drafted in the top 1027 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 6: three rounds because they played In oklahoma Or Kansas state 1028 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 6: or you, know a big school and got a lot 1029 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 6: of tape on. 1030 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 2: Them you, know when you became an offensive coordinator For 1031 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 2: cincinnati and then obviously a head, coach, transferring, sometimes at 1032 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 2: least in my, opinion was you viewed as kind of a, negative, like, 1033 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: oh you couldn't win the, job so you had to. 1034 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 2: Leave now it's the complete. OPPOSITE i, mean all these 1035 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 2: guys the last couple of, years drafted one through twelve 1036 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 2: are transfer portal, Quarterback So, Jackson, Dart, Riley, Leonard Will, 1037 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 2: Howard kyle, McCord kind of that second tier. Group i'm 1038 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: sure you've watched them. All let's start With, dart WHO 1039 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 2: i KNOW i saw some comments you made with. COLD 1040 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 2: i don't know if you're the biggest. Fan for, me 1041 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 2: it's hard to get The florida. GAME i was just watching. 1042 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 2: Live you gotta be. Careful it's hard to ever forget that. 1043 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: MOMENT i. 1044 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 6: Can't and that's my problem is an. Evaluator sometimes IF 1045 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 6: i see something early and some guys film evaluation, process 1046 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 6: it sticks on my head AND i can't get it, 1047 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 6: out you. Know and that's the same thing With jackson 1048 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 6: those couple throws Against florida late in the game when 1049 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 6: they had to win to you, know get to the. 1050 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 6: Playoff it bothered. Me same thing With schadeur's performance AGAINST 1051 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 6: byu bothered me a. 1052 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: Lot you know WHAT i. 1053 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 6: Mean, obviously you go through all the tape and their 1054 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 6: whole career and watch him, throw and watch his, athleticism 1055 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 6: what he's done With Lane kiffin and that offense At Old, 1056 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 6: miss it's been. Impressive he's got athletic ability to extend. 1057 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 6: PLAYS i just don't know if his arm strength is 1058 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 6: consistently good enough to, be you, know solid starting quarterback 1059 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 6: To National Football league. Early you, know he's got enough arm, 1060 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 6: strengths but balls float on quite a. Bit he doesn't 1061 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 6: look like he reads coverages. Right at, times they run 1062 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 6: similar concepts very very. Often he does those pretty, good 1063 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 6: but things a little out of whack for he. Struggles 1064 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 6: uh but you, know IF i put on a highlight 1065 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 6: tape Where i'm gonna show the, positives he looks pretty damn. Good, athleticism, 1066 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 6: accuracy ball, placement everything's pretty good for. 1067 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: Him but you, KNOW i. 1068 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 6: Think there's JUST i think you just need some time 1069 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 6: to develop. Somewhere And i'm not too sure his arm 1070 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 6: strength is ever going to be quite elite enough to 1071 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 6: be a, solid top, tier top ten quarterback on The 1072 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 6: NATIONAL Footba. LEAGUE i think's always going to be a, 1073 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 6: player you, know a back, up a solid maybe a, 1074 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 6: starter maybe a top twenty type, guy maybe a you, 1075 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 6: know a backup quarterback for a long. Time BUT i 1076 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 6: just don't think he's going to crack in and be 1077 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 6: one of the top. 1078 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks how would you factor in watching a guy like 1079 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 2: will have or where you? Go, well he's a transfer, 1080 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 2: guy so he's new to this. Offense early, on it 1081 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 2: felt like it was a little hit or, Miss but 1082 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: by the end of the, SEASON i mean he's throwing 1083 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 2: beautiful go. Routes and he looked awesome BECAUSE i would 1084 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 2: say halfway through the, season like this guy most overrated 1085 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 2: quarterback in the. Country by the end of the, season 1086 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 2: it's like he was looking Like Peyton manning in some 1087 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 2: of those playoff. 1088 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 6: Games, yeah put him on early this season and put 1089 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 6: the combine. On you'll never even want to draft, them, Right, 1090 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 6: yeah but you put the games. 1091 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: On it really mattered where they had to win other Than. 1092 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 6: Michigan he was pretty damn good and very, accurate very, 1093 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 6: poise had a good handle of the. Offense and you, 1094 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 6: KNOW i saw him on my brother's quarterback, show THE 1095 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 6: Qb camp. Thing very, SMART i, mean very competitive type 1096 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 6: of guy you want in your. Building you know WHAT i, 1097 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 6: mean a, winner and those intangibles have to mean something 1098 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 6: to an. ORGANIZATION i, miss guy won a national. Championship he's, 1099 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 6: competitive he's, smartest so he wants to be. Great so you, 1100 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 6: know maybe not a first round or maybe not a second, 1101 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 6: rounder but if we get this guy early in the 1102 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 6: third to take a chance with, Him hell, yeah let's 1103 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 6: get him in our building and see what he can. 1104 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 2: Do and when you draft a guy in the third 1105 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 2: or fourth, round there's way less pressure on him to 1106 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 2: be the eventual. 1107 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 3: Starter if you get you. 1108 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,720 Speaker 2: Know a ten year, backup that's a home run, pick, Right. 1109 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: Yeah for. 1110 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 6: Sure and there's BEEN i, Mean Russell wilson was third, 1111 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 6: Round Kirk cuzzins fourth. Round there's been plenty of third 1112 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 6: Round it's just turned out to be pretty damn. Good 1113 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 6: SO i think you're, right there's less pressure on to 1114 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 6: perform right. Away you know that you don't think he's 1115 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 6: going to, perform just be a solid backup for the 1116 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 6: rest of his. CAREER i, mean anytime he drafts a 1117 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 6: guy a third, round whatever position it, is that's a 1118 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 6: chance for them to you, know maybe the first year 1119 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 6: learn and be a backup special teams or whatever or other, 1120 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 6: positions and then eventual. Starter that's what it's all. About 1121 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 6: quarterbacks are no. 1122 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 3: Different, yeah is there a quarterback in this? 1123 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 2: Class maybe we already touched on him that you like the, 1124 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 2: Most maybe not going, high but just a guy that you, 1125 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 2: know if you were in a, building you'd be, LIKE 1126 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 2: i want to draft this guy. 1127 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 6: Sometime you, know, Crazy i'd take him in a sixth 1128 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 6: or seventh round of quarterback From Indiana. 1129 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: Rourke, yeah he's coming off an. INJURY i. 1130 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 6: KNOW i JUST i got to meet this guy because 1131 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 6: anybody who take The university Of indiana to the playoff college, 1132 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 6: PLAYOFF i got to meet. 1133 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: Him. 1134 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 6: Right he's pretty. Active he played well At. Ohio he 1135 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 6: had some good games In. Indiana interesting. GUY i don't 1136 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 6: know what his injury. IS i think he is a 1137 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 6: KNEE i think he played the whole year with an acl. 1138 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 6: Injury he's a guy that IF i had A Matthew 1139 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 6: stafford or a you, know veteran quarterback on my, Team 1140 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 6: i'd get him in here as a third quarterback or fourth, 1141 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 6: quarterback red shirt him for a, year get him into a. 1142 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 6: Building But Twin yewers is interesting to. Me he's, accurate, 1143 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 6: obviously his career At texas has been well. DOCUMENTED i 1144 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 6: just don't know about his arm talent. Either Will howard 1145 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 6: we mentioned, Already Jaln. Milroe i've got to get this. 1146 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 6: GUY i gotta get. IT i get, him get him a. 1147 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 6: JOB i, Mean i've never seen a guy run like. 1148 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: This he's he's faster Than. 1149 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 6: Lamar it looks like he's elusive his. ARM i think 1150 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 6: he's a lot more accurate that people give him credit. 1151 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 6: For he had some tough games And alabama had some 1152 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 6: tough games with him scoring points Against. 1153 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: Oklahoma some other. 1154 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 6: Games but he's got an elite, TALENT i mean elite 1155 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 6: escapability talent and running. Talent and to get him into 1156 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 6: building as your third quarterback or second quarterback on game 1157 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 6: day and have a package of plays for, him it 1158 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 6: could be pretty. Dangerous SO i think there's a skill 1159 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 6: set that you feel like he can really. Develop Like 1160 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 6: jalen has that athleticism and, Speed let's get him into the. 1161 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 6: Building let's try to develop his footwork and his passing. 1162 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 6: Attack let's get you, know some of these other guys 1163 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 6: that are very, competitive very, smart love the, game and 1164 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 6: get him into the building and see how they. Go 1165 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 6: some guys will perform well. Somewhill but those are just 1166 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 6: a few guys THAT i kind of. 1167 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 2: Like if the only Tape Jalen milroe had was that 1168 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 2: first half Against, georgia he'd be the number one overall. 1169 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: Pick. 1170 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: Right, see he, LOOKED i mean he looked better Than Caleb. 1171 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 2: WILLIAMS i mean that, half that's as good as it. 1172 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 2: Gets and then you'd watch That bowl. GAME i remember 1173 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: watching Against. Michigan it was, like, geez what's going on? 1174 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: Here but you're, right it was. 1175 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 3: Weird see it's pretty. 1176 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 6: High, yeah, YEAH i, mean if you're gonna take a 1177 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 6: chance on the, guy let's take a chance as a 1178 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 6: guy this runs a four to two nine forty that's 1179 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 6: gonna be in our building as opposed to you, know 1180 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 6: an average arm strength guy that's a tough. 1181 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: Guy you. 1182 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 6: Know it's just whatever you guys want to do as a. 1183 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 6: Staff and if you can put together cause of plays and, 1184 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 6: really uh make Jyaln milroe the type of guy that 1185 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 6: can really help your team in a certain situations or, 1186 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 6: whatever then you gotta take a. 1187 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 2: CHANCE i mean a touchdown. Pass also that through last 1188 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,240 Speaker 2: year in The Iron bowl to keep the season, alive 1189 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 2: was he was rolling to his left cross by. 1190 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 6: Incredible, yeah he's, yeah so he does things like. 1191 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: That you're, well you know he's got it in, him you. 1192 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 6: Know so you, KNOW i think coming out people like 1193 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 6: to compare him To lamar with his, athletics And lamar 1194 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 6: is a much better passer coming. 1195 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: Out but you never. Know you give this guy a 1196 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: couple of years in the system and work with a quarterback, coach. 1197 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 6: AND i don't know if he'll never be an elite, 1198 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 6: passer that's for, Sure but he might be effective enough 1199 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 6: to really put a lot of pressure on defenses with his, 1200 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 6: athleticism because this guy is elite when he has a 1201 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 6: ball in his. Hands, NOW i mean maybe he's a 1202 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 6: damn slot receiver or a third down back or something like, 1203 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 6: that you, know just to get the ball in his, 1204 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 6: hands and he's. Electrifying, OKAY a couple QUICK nfl quarterback 1205 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 6: questions for you today was, reported WHICH i think was 1206 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 6: the right move By brock showed. 1207 00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 2: Up obviously the contract. Issue he's a poll rising. PLAYER 1208 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 2: i feel like WHEN i WHEN i close my eyes 1209 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 2: and think the, GRUDENS i feel like you guys would 1210 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 2: like Brock. Purty he's your type guy from an intangible 1211 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: standpoint and from a playing. Standpoint, plus it feels like 1212 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 2: everyone just naturally talks shit about, him and the natural 1213 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 2: reaction from you guys would be to push. Back what 1214 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: are your thoughts? On just obviously the, contract which how 1215 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,280 Speaker 2: much these quarterbacks are getting, paid is fit With kyle 1216 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 2: and just ultimately what you would do if you were 1217 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 2: in the forty nine or shoes when it came to 1218 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 2: Brock purty in your future at. 1219 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: Quarterback rock's, interesting. 1220 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 6: Man i'm telling you What Brock purty gives guys Like 1221 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 6: kyle McCord And Quinn ewers and and all these. 1222 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: GUYS i, mean you guys Like Rock purty can do. 1223 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 6: It. SHIT i can do it just as good As 1224 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 6: brock At Iowa, state. Right but he's gone out and 1225 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 6: done it at a very high. Level he's been in 1226 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 6: situations that have been pressure packed that performed pretty. Well, 1227 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 6: obviously when guys got hurt around him last, year their 1228 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 6: team didn't play quite as. Well he needs good players around, 1229 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 6: him like all quarterbacks. DO i think That i'd be 1230 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 6: a little reluctant to, say hellkay HIS i don't know 1231 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 6: IF i want to pay him that much, money because 1232 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 6: then you're gonna lose guys Like Deebo. Sam you're gonna 1233 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 6: lose you, know Green, law and you're gonna Lose, Ufana 1234 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 6: you're gonna Lose word At. CORNER i don't know if 1235 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 6: your team is good enough not to have those guys 1236 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 6: for him to be successful or. Not BUT i love 1237 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 6: what he's. 1238 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: DONE i love his. 1239 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 6: Accuracy he's got a great feel for the. GAME i 1240 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 6: Understands kyle's offense very very. Well some people say it's 1241 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 6: because Of coyle's. Offense why Brock purry is. Good maybe 1242 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 6: it's because the players around. Him that's why Brock perry 1243 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 6: is very. Good maybe Brock perry is just pretty damn. 1244 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 6: Good give him some. Credit SO i think there's a 1245 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 6: fine line between how you have to evaluate Brock. Perry 1246 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 6: but If i'm the forty Nine ers And John, LYNCH 1247 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 6: i gotta pay. Him because IF i don't pay, him 1248 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 6: then what AM i gonna go out and trade For Kirk, 1249 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 6: cousins WHICH i could see happening BECAUSE i Know kyle Loves, 1250 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 6: kirk or go in the draft bear ass, naked try 1251 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 6: to find another one as good As brock has. PERFORMED 1252 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 6: i think they gotta Pay. 1253 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 2: Brock, yeah what's end? On one of your former assistant 1254 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 2: coaches has a pretty difficult situation going on just because 1255 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 2: he drafted a quarterback. High last. Year he had The 1256 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 2: Sam darnold. Explosion sam's now In. Seattle the visual OF 1257 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 2: jj in THE i think it was The lions. Game 1258 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 2: he looked like you weigh one. Hundred i'd die for that. 1259 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: Weight he's like one hundred and seventy. Pounds he's, skinny you. Know, 1260 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 2: now it's like their roster on. PAPER i think most 1261 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 2: people would agree top, three four five roster in THE. 1262 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 2: Nfl but the quarterback, situation they thought About Aaron. Rodgers 1263 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 2: as of right, now they haven't signed, him can you? 1264 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: BANK i, mean they're coming off what a fourteen to 1265 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 2: fifteen win. Season people are gonna be picking them to 1266 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 2: compete right there with The eagles if they get good 1267 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 2: quarterback play a guy that's not only never played AN 1268 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 2: nfl regular season. Game, really when you look at how 1269 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 2: he played in, college they didn't ask he played a 1270 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 2: Little Jimmy Garoppolo Kyle shanahan. Style, right we're gonna run the, 1271 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 2: ball we're gonna play, defense And kevin likes to pass 1272 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 2: the ball from WHAT i, see you, know watching his team's, 1273 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 2: play and obviously they're they're equipped to do. That it 1274 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 2: seems a little, risky you, know And i'm PRO jj, 1275 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 2: McCarthy but given the, expectation it's much easier as a 1276 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 2: rookie quarterback when the expectations are high or excuse me, 1277 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: low than to take over a team like The, vikings 1278 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 2: where if you win anything less than like eleven twelve, 1279 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 2: games they're going to be all over your. Ass so 1280 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 2: good luck to your, guy because this is a difficult. 1281 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: Spot they're very. 1282 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 6: Good you, KNOW i was looking at their teeth for draft. 1283 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 6: Needs i'm, like, well they don't need a, safety don't 1284 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 6: need a really, corner they don't need any defensive, line 1285 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 6: but they don't need a offensive. Line they don't even 1286 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 6: need running, backs they don't need, receivers they don't need stacked. 1287 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: There they're pretty damn. Good you're, right and this is a. 1288 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 6: RISK i, mean this Is kevin O'Connell rolling the dice 1289 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 6: man with everything on the line WITH jj, McCarthy AND 1290 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 6: i thought they might Sign Aaron rodgers for a. Year and, 1291 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 6: uh you, know IF jj proves to be one hundred, 1292 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 6: percent Which i'm sure he is right, now and and 1293 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 6: And aaron has to sit on a, bench that's. Fine 1294 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 6: otherwise he can learn a, year get another red shirt 1295 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 6: year for, him and Let Aaron rodgers. Play but obviously 1296 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 6: they feel very strongly about. 1297 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Him you, Know i'm with. 1298 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 6: You as far as The michigan tape's. Concerned he didn't 1299 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 6: do a whole. Lot you, know there's play, actions flat, 1300 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 6: routes a little high cross every now and then quick, 1301 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 6: out you, Know so it wasn't he wasn't asked to 1302 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 6: do a whole, lot and he's going to be asked 1303 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 6: to do a lot. More AND i know he had 1304 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 6: a good preseason. Game he had some good throws in 1305 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 6: his preseason game that he played before he got. Hurt 1306 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 6: BUT i don't know what to make of. It, man 1307 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 6: this is a you, Know kevin knows these. Guys he's 1308 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 6: got a good pulse of what this guy can, do 1309 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 6: is competitive, spirit how he handles the, offense his understanding 1310 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 6: of the. Game so he feels very. Confident this is 1311 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 6: a bold. 1312 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: Move By kevin and hopefully it works. 1313 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 6: Out But i'm sure eventually they'll get some kind of 1314 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 6: backup quarterback with some, experience somebody Like Andy dalton type 1315 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 6: guy For Bryce, young you know WHAT i. 1316 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: MEAN i think they'll be looking for. 1317 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 2: That assuming the money's. Right would you feel comfortable with 1318 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 2: just the way The Aaron rodgers situation with The jets 1319 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 2: and the, personality and you, know the interviews With, pat 1320 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 2: he becomes a story in itself bringing him into a 1321 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 2: situation where you have this young. Quarterback not That aaron 1322 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't get along with, them but it's just it's a 1323 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: lot going, on which it does feel like why they 1324 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 2: were just a little, hesitant just with the kind of 1325 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 2: the show that comes along With. 1326 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 6: AARON i think the other issue is he have to 1327 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 6: actually learn a new. Offense you, know they brought Over 1328 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 6: Nathaniel hackett with them to The, jets that keep the 1329 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 6: offense the same for, him so he's never had to 1330 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 6: really learn new. Terminality not that he couldn't learn, it 1331 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 6: but it is. Different and to be a forty year old, 1332 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 6: quarterback you kind of want to have things your way 1333 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 6: as a play. Call colin plays in the huddle and 1334 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 6: That kevin would not change what he's been doing because 1335 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 6: he's been pretty successful as. Well so that's the other. 1336 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 6: Issue And i'm not Saying Aaron. Rodgers that might be 1337 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 6: another veteran type guy that'll come free, eventually Maybe Jamis 1338 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 6: winston if they draft a quarterback somebody like. 1339 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: That BUT i don't, know but, YEAH i, think. 1340 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 6: You, know all eyes will be ON, jj AND i 1341 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 6: THINK jj is ready for the for the. Opportunity but 1342 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 6: how he, performs we'll. See he's got a good offensive 1343 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 6: line and good back and hell of a receiving. 1344 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Corp what's your, uh what's your go to game at the? 1345 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 2: Club you guys go a LITTLE. Nasa you, guys go, 1346 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,919 Speaker 2: banker you guys go? DO i, mean what's? 1347 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Uh you, KNOW. 1348 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 6: I have lots of lots of different groups THAT i play. 1349 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 6: With sometimes we just play stable for. Teams sometimes we 1350 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 6: Played massoft two down autos and double the, back you, 1351 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 6: know things like. That sometimes we play the dots for the, 1352 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 6: trash all that, crap you, know, Yeah Greeny, sandies all that. 1353 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 6: Stuff i'm about a big FANLY i liked straight. UP 1354 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 6: i like mass all the. Best it's just you, know 1355 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 6: you get, down you get. Pressed That's i'm a. PRESSER 1356 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 6: i love THE p. 1357 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 3: Word, yeah you like when you're. 1358 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 2: BACKSKINS i like your brother's mindset of you, know nineties Par, 1359 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 2: so if you shoot eighty, five you had a hell 1360 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 2: of a day out there on the golf. 1361 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 6: Course yeah THAT'S i used to keep score by. Fives 1362 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 6: IF i was one under, fives that MEANS i shot 1363 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 6: a eighty, nine. 1364 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, well, YEAH i appreciate it to have 1365 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 2: a good day on the golf course and let's enjoy the. 1366 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,919 Speaker 6: Draft, yeah thanks for having me on any. 1367 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Time the volume