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Speaker 1: all the time, want to start a podcast, want to

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Speaker 1: do football? Do you have any advice? I say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just get Coward, Bill Simmons or Portinoy behind you, or

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Speaker 1: be two Hall of famers one guy Dayton, Taylor Swift

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Speaker 1: or else. You got no shot. And when you do

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Speaker 1: have the right people who believe in you and are

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Speaker 1: behind you, then it's on you to take advantage of

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Speaker 1: it and listen. Sam Darnold is six three and a half.

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Speaker 1: He's two hundred and twenty pounds. He is a solid

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him a great athlete, but he's definitely

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Speaker 1: average to above for NFL standards, and the knock has

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Speaker 1: always been he's been really erratic and you will just

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Speaker 1: look back. It's like he played for fucking Adam Gase

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Speaker 1: and Matt Ruhle, who I think Matt Rule is a

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Speaker 1: good college coach, but he was kind of an embarrassment

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And Kyle Shanahan and the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers changed him, and Kevin O'Connell has taken him to

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Speaker 1: another level. And right now the Vikings looked fantastic. They

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Speaker 1: look real, Like I don't think this is a fluke.

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Speaker 1: They're excellent on defense. Their quarterback is not only playing

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Speaker 1: like under control, he's an explosive player, like this guy

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Speaker 1: has a big explosive arm. And they got weapons, and

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Speaker 1: they got a good running back, and they got a

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Speaker 1: star left tackle. Like this is a real team. Now,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't just chuck them up in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: for the NFC, but I don't see how. Obviously Donald

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Speaker 1: who had a little bit of a knee scare with

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Speaker 1: JJ out, you know, their backup quarterback situation if he

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Speaker 1: were to go down, I think would be obviously problematic.

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Speaker 1: But let's face it, Cousin's a good player, right, He's

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Speaker 1: made a ton of money in this league. He's been

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Speaker 1: to Pro Bowls, like he's had an excellent career, especially

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Speaker 1: given where he started. Sam Donald is much more talented

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Speaker 1: and to me, their team is now more dynamic. Cousin,

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Speaker 1: I would say, over the course of the season is

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Speaker 1: going to be a more accurate player. But what do

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Speaker 1: we talk all the time about. We saw it last

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Speaker 1: night again, he can't add lib so if you pressure him,

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Speaker 1: he's da Sam Darnald can move like that is a

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Speaker 1: huge element to modern day offenses. It's why all these

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks they're excelling in the NFL are all good to

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Speaker 1: elite athletes. I mean, that's that's just a fact, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that like when we're never gonna see

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Speaker 1: the Peyton Mannings and the Tom Brady's again. But those guys,

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Speaker 1: the type players that have come into the NFL over

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Speaker 1: the last I don't know, six seven years, have all

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Speaker 1: been athletic guys. Have all been guys that you can

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Speaker 1: run movement plays with. And if he's not gonna turn

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Speaker 1: the ball over and he's gonna throw a ton of touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: the Vikings are this isn't a fluke. As a buddy

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Speaker 1: in the league, text me today like they're real. This

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Speaker 1: is not smoking mirrors and the Sam Darnal trade or

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Speaker 1: not trade, but signing in a weird way could get

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Speaker 1: complicated for them because if he wins, if the team

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Speaker 1: wins twelve games and he's excellent and they win a

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Speaker 1: playoff game, you're just gonna let him walk. I know

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Speaker 1: you drafted JJ McCarthy told this to Coward yesterday, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's not like they traded up three first round picks

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Speaker 1: to get this guy. Kind of fell in their lap,

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Speaker 1: and which was good. Good job by their GM knowing

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Speaker 1: the market, know where you can get the player. I

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Speaker 1: think they traded up one spot, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get complicated. It's a good problem to have.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of a good problem to have, is the Steelers

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Speaker 1: landed two quarterbacks who they're not paying any money. And

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Speaker 1: I think they got lucky when Russell Wilson got hurt,

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Speaker 1: because I thought to begin with that Russell was never

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Speaker 1: gonna work in Pittsburgh. He's a dink and dunk quarterback

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Speaker 1: who's kind of a weirdo that is not Pittsburgh's style,

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Speaker 1: and Justin Fields had at this point in time, there's

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Speaker 1: just more to work with, and this is a player

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Speaker 1: who the Steelers are three to zero. And obviously they're

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Speaker 1: led by their defense, which like the Chiefs, has been elite.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are dominating defensively, and that game, to

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Speaker 1: me was a coin flip game until Justin Herbert reinjured

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Speaker 1: his foot and based on the line this week, probably

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Speaker 1: won't play. I thought halfway through that game, like this

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Speaker 1: Charger team is a playoff team if Herbert's fully healthy

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Speaker 1: and he plays seventeen games. If he's in and out

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Speaker 1: of the lineup, they got no shot. But that was

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Speaker 1: a solid win by Pittsburgh and their defense as long

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Speaker 1: as TJ. Watts on the field is going to be

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Speaker 1: top notch all season long. And the question mark has

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Speaker 1: been with them the last couple of years, like quarterback play,

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Speaker 1: and they've just had guys that bring no juice, Like

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Speaker 1: there's Kenny Pickett's got nothing. He's throwing eighty eight mile

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Speaker 1: an hour fastballs and it's not like he's a big

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Speaker 1: time athlete. So you get fields who their first touchdown

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Speaker 1: little zone reed boom walks right in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have a big rushing game. I think you only

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Speaker 1: rushed for like six or seven yards yesterday, But that's

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Speaker 1: a huge element of his game, and it does feel

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Speaker 1: like he's a little more under control throwing the ball.

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Speaker 1: And maybe this we talk about confidence, we talk about leadership,

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Speaker 1: like Kevin O'Connell looking at Sam Darnold, I believe in you.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin looking at Justin Fields, I believe in you.

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Speaker 1: Is just a little bit different than Matt Rule or

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Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus telling you that. And I think it's showing.

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Speaker 1: Now can the Steelers win a Super Bowl with Justin Fields?

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Speaker 1: Clearly they're gonna have to be a little more potent

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Speaker 1: on offense in these bigger games in December and in January.

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Speaker 1: But like this is why you start them, which again

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Speaker 1: they weren't planning on, but because of the Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: calf injury, they got granted that ability. Like if Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields stays healthy, we're not seeing Russell Wilson this entire season,

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Speaker 1: which is a whole nother conversation like what happens in

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Speaker 1: that guy's career, But this is not the time for it.

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Speaker 1: And you got to give Justin Field's credit. You got

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Speaker 1: to give Sam Donald the credit. When you get these

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Speaker 1: opportunities and you get with a good team, like everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: oh their receiver suck. Their receiver suck well. Obviously, George

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Speaker 1: Pickens really talented. This Calvin Austen looks pretty good to me.

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Speaker 1: Friar move's good. They got a couple backs, and they

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Speaker 1: don't need to score that many points. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be games where they're gonna have to score more

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Speaker 1: than eighteen to twenty points, clearly, but I do think

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Speaker 1: they will have that capability as the season goes on,

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Speaker 1: as this quarterback gets more comfortable, big explosive arm can

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Speaker 1: throw on the move. Throwing over the middle of the

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Speaker 1: field is something they're gonna have to become a little

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Speaker 1: more comfortable with. He had a pick yesterday, but it's

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Speaker 1: kind of tipped up in the air, like I'm a

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Speaker 1: believer and listen, you guys know where I stood on Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I was out. They've kind of wrote me back in

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Speaker 1: because their style translates, it really does. I would say

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Speaker 1: if I had to bet on one of the two teams,

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Speaker 1: I think the Vikings I would feel a little more

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Speaker 1: confident in because just their passing games much more explosive,

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Speaker 1: and their defense has been equally as dominant, and their

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator floores right there with Spags is so far

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Speaker 1: through three weeks, best in the league. But the Steelers

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Speaker 1: are real too, man. This is they're very comfortable. I

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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs have proven this the last couple of years. Now.

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Speaker 1: The swing vote with the Chiefs is they got Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: you got Justin Fields, but they got no problem being

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Speaker 1: in games when it's thirteen to ten in the second half.

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Speaker 1: Like they're comfortable in that environment. So props to the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Some other thoughts on quarterback play. I rewatched or just

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Speaker 1: you know, independently on the StairMaster the Colts and the

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Speaker 1: Bears game, and I had two big takeaways because yesterday

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Speaker 1: with Colin, my take was like, God, Fields is all

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Speaker 1: over the place. Obviously he has some stuff to work on.

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Speaker 1: He's missing some deep ball, he gets a little fernetic

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, but he did make a lot of

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Speaker 1: great throws in that game. They have no running game.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're asking him, I'm sorry in a game

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Speaker 1: that it's one thing being down thirty to nothing and

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Speaker 1: you have to throw At no point was this game

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Speaker 1: ever bigger than like it was like fourteen to three.

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Speaker 1: It's like, can we just take a deep breath here?

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Speaker 1: Run the ball a little bit and they're just asking

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Speaker 1: him to throw every single play. But he had some

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Speaker 1: great passes to roam. There's a difference in struggling and

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Speaker 1: losing like Bryce Young was and going I don't see

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Speaker 1: anything there. That wasn't my takeaway from Caleb. You know,

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Speaker 1: to me, there is so much there to work with.

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Speaker 1: Need to calm down a little bit. You can't ask

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Speaker 1: him to do this much like it's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I think most of the reaction is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he sucks, he's terrible. It's he's over his head to

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Speaker 1: hype and that was kind of my reaction watching him

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Speaker 1: on a four box situation. But when you really watch

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Speaker 1: the game, I was more glass half full. The guy

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Speaker 1: I was glass half empty on would be Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 1: who is a complete train wreck. I mean, making throws

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Speaker 1: off platform, fading to his left, hitting bears in stride.

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Speaker 1: You can't function with this at quarterback. It is not

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Speaker 1: sustainable and stiching. They play the Steelers this week, you

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Speaker 1: know they played the Steelers. That is a tough spot

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Speaker 1: for a r because right now the balls are coming

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Speaker 1: out of his hand and you have no clue where

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Speaker 1: it's gonna go, he had a couple big plays in

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Speaker 1: that game against the Bears, or you could tell he

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Speaker 1: throttled off a little bit because he was afraid to

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Speaker 1: overthrow the guy. And whether this guy is all out

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Speaker 1: of whack or whether this is just what he is.

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Speaker 1: You talk about earning your money. If you're Shane Stikeen,

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Speaker 1: this is a project's project. Now. Luckily, if you are

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Speaker 1: gonna have a project, you want a guy six '

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Speaker 1: four that is that powerful, that fast and with that

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Speaker 1: big of an arm. But the accuracy issues. Like to me, Caleb,

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Speaker 1: when he's overthrowing some stuff and then you see him

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Speaker 1: make just a couple of great throws hit guys in stride,

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Speaker 1: You're like, this guy can be accurate. He did throw

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Speaker 1: a bad pick six or not. It wasn't a pick

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Speaker 1: six the guy went out of bounce, but a pick

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Speaker 1: on an out route, hold on the ball a little

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Speaker 1: too long. That happens to the young quarterbacks. When I

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Speaker 1: watch Anthony Richardson young quarterback, the accuracy isn't a concern.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably one of the biggest liabilities right

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Speaker 1: now in the NFL. So the Colts clearly are gonna

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Speaker 1: have questions on defense to Forrest Buckner's not there. They

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Speaker 1: played a pretty good game all things, you know, being

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Speaker 1: equal yesterday with their backs against the wall. But I

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Speaker 1: think the quarterback, when you play better teams, I just

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Speaker 1: don't see how you win if he's gonna play like

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Speaker 1: he has through the first three games. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: was a play in the red zone where they rolled

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Speaker 1: him out and there was a guy open in the

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Speaker 1: back of the end zone. The ball did get tipped,

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Speaker 1: but you didn't have any faith when he was rolling

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Speaker 1: out like this is pretty risky and the ball gets

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Speaker 1: tipped and goes right into Edmund's hands, You're like, man,

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Speaker 1: this guy, there's one thing to be a roller coaster

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Speaker 1: and there's another thing to be what Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 1: right now to feel like a train wreck. And I listen,

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Speaker 1: I know you won the game if you're a Colts fan,

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Speaker 1: but I think we all have to agree that this

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Speaker 1: is pretty freaking ugly right now. And I was a believer,

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Speaker 1: or I wanted to believe. I mean, hell, I was

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Speaker 1: tempted to bet on them to win the division, and

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Speaker 1: the preseason spooked me. And it's been way worse in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. So if Shane Syching can work his magic.

639
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: He deserves an extension. If he can get this team

640
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: in playoff contention come December and have this quarterback improve,

641
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: it'll be like Lafleura with Malik Willis. I will tip

642
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: my hat. I'm not sure it's possible, U bo Nicks.

643
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I watched that game back two things. Denver came to play.

644
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Denver showed up to kick acid and take their defense

645
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: was flying around. I mean they got up a couple

646
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: scores before you could even blink to me. The difference

647
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: between bo Nix and Caleb is they were asking him

648
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: to get and this is what we talked about coming

649
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: into the season. Snap the ball, get rid of the

650
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: ball quick. And he did that a couple of times,

651
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: and he found himself in a rhythm. And this is

652
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: the big question mark with Eberflus, who when you're watching

653
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the Bears and they keep showing him and he's screwing

654
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: up challenges or he's not challenging the ball, you just

655
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: feel a guy you talk about we talk about it

656
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: with players all the time, you know, gaining confidence, losing confidence.

657
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Eva Flus looks like a guy that's swimming completely in

658
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: over his head. That's why I think most people, if

659
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: you're gambling on it, if you're a fan of it,

660
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm out on this guy. This is not

661
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: gonna work. Then you watch Bo Nicks and you just

662
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: feel the confidence in the quotes from Sean Payton. It's

663
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: like he's been there, done that, Like he's been around

664
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: the block a few times, kind of knows what he's

665
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: doing now. His offense in terms of the verbia, it's very,

666
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: very complicated. But with time you find a place like, hey,

667
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: I gotta cut this out. I need to make this

668
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: a little easier for my guy. The best thing that

669
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: can happen to a young quarterback play solid defense, make

670
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: plays on defense, turn the ball over and run the ball,

671
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: slow down the game. And the Broncos did that. I

672
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: mean they went into Tampa and completely punked him. Now

673
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: was Tampa feeling themselves at two and zero? Did they underestimate?

674
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: I say this all the time because there are massive

675
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: upsets in November and December every single year. These people

676
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: are humans. Like when you're playing a one in seventeen

677
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: and you are six and two, it's horrid to practice

678
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: the same way as when you're six and two. When

679
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: you're playing another six and two team on Monday night

680
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: or Sunday night football when you're playing that morning game,

681
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: like this team stinks, Like I do get and I

682
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: understand coaches harp on this take it seriously work hard.

683
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: It's hard for players when they remember Belichick over decades

684
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: when they would play just horrendous teams and he'd be

685
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: like the peak of the dynasty and he'd be like,

686
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, I know this team's zero and ten, but

687
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: their special teams is one of the best units I've

688
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: ever seen. And he would go on some long diatribe

689
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: for like ten minutes. He'd be like, he is trying

690
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: to psych himself in to this team being a real

691
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: opponent because he has to communicate with his own team,

692
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: and that's hard. That is a difficult proposition. And it

693
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: felt like Tampa just thought. I would guess their practice

694
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: was pretty hit or miss, their focus was pretty hit

695
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: or miss, and they showed up thinking they could win

696
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: the game, and all of a sudden, it's like a

697
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson shot across the the chin and you're down,

698
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: but bo Nick's getting rid of the ball quick. One

699
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: thing that's pretty evident is he's a pretty good athlete.

700
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: He made some fantastic plays with his legs. He had

701
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: an early touchdown, he had another great scramble. He looked really,

702
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: really good, and I think they just got him calm

703
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: where you watch Caleb. What's weird about the Bears and

704
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: Colin and I talked about this on Sunday night, is

705
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: like they start really slow. So whatever their scripted plays are,

706
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: that is something you harp on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You

707
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: feel pretty confident on how the game is going to

708
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: open up. You practice those plays over and over. You

709
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: go over it as the offensive coordinator. Very rocky early.

710
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: There's no rhythm to it. Like honestly, that game, the

711
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: score looks a lot closer. They score a couple of

712
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: late touchdowns. You know, the score doesn't indicate how poorly

713
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: they played on offense. Part of it was just kind

714
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: of Caleb freelancing, which is part of the problem. It's

715
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: hard to freelance in the NFL because even if you

716
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: got all the Colts suck on defense. Their defenders, when

717
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: they have angles on you and you're doing three sixties

718
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: in the backfield, will catch you. And if they don't

719
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: catch you, they will force you back into more help

720
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: and it will just turn into these disasters. It's why

721
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time with quarterback play, get

722
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. Shador Sanders really big time talent,

723
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: and I would put a lot like their offense. When

724
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: you're watching it, you're like, I think Pat Shermer is

725
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: one of the biggest scam artists going in POWERFY Football

726
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: or the NFL. His offense is a joke. It's like

727
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: you can't block and you are asking your offensive line

728
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: on four and five wides every single series, like what

729
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: in tight games when you're down and Chador just had

730
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: to pull plays out of as you know what, well

731
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: in college you can pull that off. Caleb was able

732
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: to pull that off the last couple of years. Terrible

733
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: offenseive line because most of the defense who are chasing

734
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: you around are not going to be playing on Sundays.

735
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: So like Schador made just remarkable plays. It's harder to

736
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: do that in the NFL because even some random backup

737
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: is still like a fourth round pick, still a guy

738
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: that might play in the NFL for five or six years.

739
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: So you're seeing Caleb do all this stuff and you're like, bro,

740
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: you either if it's not there, you got to throw

741
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: it away. You have to balance some of the hero

742
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: ball that works in college that in football it's much

743
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: more or in the pros on rhythm and timing. That's

744
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: the only way an offense can operate. And that's where

745
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: you watch bo Nicks. You know, the first game, no

746
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: rhythm and timing against Seattle Steelers overwhelmed them early. As

747
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: the game went on, it felt like he settled in

748
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: and this game felt much closer to what we saw

749
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: during the preseason. A couple steps, get rid of the ball.

750
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: Couple steps your first options out there, look, get rid

751
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: of the ball. And that's how you can be successful

752
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL, because when you are going back there

753
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: and no one's open, you're like, shit, I'm just gonna

754
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: do a three sixty. I'm gonna scramble the left and

755
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: then if something I'll open, I'll scramble back to the right.

756
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: That can lead to crazy interceptions, that can lead to

757
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: crazy sacks that could just lead to problems. And this

758
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: gets back to avoid some of these crazy second and

759
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: third and long. You have to function in the run game.

760
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: You have to have i would say, productive plays on

761
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: first and tent because it makes it easier on everybody

762
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: and the Bears are like, I don't know, like an

763
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: NFL blitz team. They just want to pass the ball

764
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: non stop. Unless I'm pro the pass. But when you're

765
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: asking a rookie quarterback to pass the ball fifty times

766
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: in a game where you are not down three or

767
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: four scores, you're asking for problems and you gotta find

768
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: a way to get an early lead. That's what the

769
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Broncos did. That's why they dominated that game. Get an

770
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: early lead, have your defense settle in, and everyone can

771
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: take a deep breath when you find yourself behind the

772
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: eight ball. And some of these coaches it can be

773
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: like fourteen to six or nine to nothing, and they

774
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: start calling plays like they're down twenty one to three

775
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: in the third quarters. Like, guys, it's the second quarter,

776
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: you're down nine points. Can we just run the plays

777
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: that we talked about on Wednesday and Thursday that have

778
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: a chance to just gain six yards, Like we don't

779
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: need thirty or forty yards. And I think sometimes that's

780
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: a huge difference you just see between coordinators their inability

781
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: to like stick with the run, their inability to just

782
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: run basic plays. It's my issue with Pat Shermer. I mean,

783
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. I'm rooting for Dion and I'm going pat.

784
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: Every play does not have to be obviously the Hail

785
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Mary play, but on the previous series, it's like, just

786
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: run a slit out, just run a quick screen, make

787
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: it a little easy on your offensive lineman. Make it

788
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: so Chador is not running for his life. And some

789
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: of these coades like pass past pass, pass pass, go deep,

790
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: go deep, go deep, go deep, which is what we

791
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: all want to do in Madden. It's not realistic in

792
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Power five football or the NFL. And in the NFL

793
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: the difference of Power five. If you have an elite

794
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: talent at quarterback, he can run around and make shit happen.

795
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: And Shadoor did and Caleb used to do that in

796
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: college where in the pros it can unravel on you fast.

797
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Richdson's doing it right now, and then just throwing

798
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: the ball to the other team. It's why when they

799
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: had control of that game, what were they doing. They

800
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: were handing the ball off and getting productive plays to

801
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. That's how they took the lead. Because it

802
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: just settles everyone in And what has Andy Reid done

803
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: these last couple of years as his passing game has

804
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: been hit or miss. He's ran the football, like how

805
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: do the Ravens have a lot of success over the years.

806
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: They run the ball down your throat. And that's why

807
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for the running back

808
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: position coming back into vote, because we've talked forever the

809
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: tight end is the quarterback's best friend. I'd argue the

810
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: running game is the quarterback's best friend. It makes it

811
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: easier on everyone, especially the offensive line, because a lot

812
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: of offensive linemen are going to struggle in pass pro

813
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: if you ask them to pass protect forty five times

814
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: a game. But there are a lot of alignment who

815
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: can be averaged to above average in the run game,

816
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: who are liabilities in the pass game. But you can

817
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: play function and win with them if your running game

818
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: is successful and you can say, oh, they have no

819
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: running game. A lot of these coaches will not stick

820
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: with it. They just will not. They will be so

821
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: quick to pivot away from it because they always got

822
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: stuffed once. We'll just stick with it. That's how you

823
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: lean on a defense. Tired them out, and the teams

824
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: that are willing to do that, I think just have

825
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: a better chance to be successful when you're passing game,

826
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: and it's like this all over the league is out

827
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: of whack and not really functioning, and your offensive lineman.

828
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Probably most teams have multiple guys out of their five

829
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: who are liabilities in the pass game. I understand, like

830
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you're down twenty eight to six, you have

831
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: no choice, you have to pass. But if you're down

832
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: like seven to three or ten to three or fourteen

833
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: to six and there's two quarters and five minutes left

834
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: in the first half, it's like, guys, we got some time,

835
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: Like why are we rushing to try to gain a

836
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: comeback in one play. Let's take a deep breath, Let's

837
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: just sustain a drive, just settle everyone down. And I

838
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of offensive coordinators, which listen most of

839
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: us if we're just playing video games or screaming at

840
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: the TV, we all like the past. But I think

841
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: some of these guys are becoming so obsessed that it's

842
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: leading to this erratic quarterback play when the offensive linemen

843
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: are completely overwhelmed. Okay, mail bag time, you guys know

844
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: the drill at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff little Instagram account,

845
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: fire in those dms. Get your question answered here on

846
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: the podcast we will start with Jacoby question for the bag.

847
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: With Pierce saying there could be a quarterback change, it

848
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: got me thinking with the Raiders trade Davante for JJ McCarthy.

849
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: Straight up, Davante is shown multiple times he doesn't seem

850
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: happy in Vegas with Sam ballin. It just got me wondering, well,

851
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: I would imagine the Raid would gladly take JJ McCarthy.

852
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: I think that's an immediate no from the Vikings. One.

853
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: They don't need a wide receiver. They gave Justin Jefferson

854
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: the biggest contract in the history of the league non quarterback.

855
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: I think maybe Bose is a little higher guaranteed, maybe not.

856
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: I have to really look at those numbers, but obviously

857
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: they just gave him an astronomical amount of money. They

858
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: have Jordan Addison, they had another wide receiver eighty three

859
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: making some plays. They just they don't need them. And

860
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: despite Sam bawling, which is a problem for them in

861
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: terms of are they just gonna let him walk, they

862
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: would not do that deal. And the reality is JJ

863
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: McCarthy's out for the year, so he doesn't really do

864
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: you any good. I do think two guys though, that

865
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: are trade candidates, like DeVante if this team is going

866
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: to be bad. And what's crazy is that comeback win

867
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: against the Ravens was pretty impressive. But I think that's

868
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: a little more outlier than it is what we're gonna

869
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: see now. Max Crosby's banged up, Davante has no value

870
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: on that team. He still can play. Could you trade him,

871
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, for like a second and a third round pick.

872
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to entertain that. Obviously Crosby's untouchable,

873
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: but I think Davante you'd have to think about it.

874
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: And to me the other guy, and I understand they

875
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: gave him a little more money before the season. Maybe

876
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: did they give him an extension or rework his contract?

877
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: Added a bunch of guaranteed money. You could easily get

878
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: a first round pick for Tyreek Hill. Should we just

879
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: start over? Should we just press the ejec button? Because

880
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: that's what I do. If I was the Dolphins, I'm

881
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: not remotely close win healthy two winning playoff games. Now

882
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they do that. I'm not speaking. I

883
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: don't know the cap implications, which are obviously, you know,

884
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: not ideal when you give guys a large amount of

885
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. But those two guys don't make sense on

886
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: the team at this point in time with the quarterback

887
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: play in Miami, assuming Tua, who knows if he comes back,

888
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: and Gardner Minshew and at O'Connell like, give me a break. Listen,

889
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a Raider hater. Gardner Minshew made no sense

890
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: on the Raiders. He makes sense as a backup. He

891
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: does not make sense as someone that you go into

892
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: the season week one. These guy's are starter out on you?

893
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: Is Jackson Dart a sleeper number one? He's having a

894
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: season that's going under the Raider. I think part of

895
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: it is ole Miss hasn't played anybody yet. I have

896
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: not watched a snap of ole Miss, partly because their

897
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: opponents are a joke when they play the real teams.

898
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of money in the line. I

899
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: mean when they're playing Bama, when they're playing Georgia, when

900
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: they're playing Tennessee. I don't know their schedule in front

901
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: of me, but Bama Georgia is this week, so that's

902
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: an incredible game. So you guys have played Furman Mtsu,

903
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to click on it, Wake Forest and

904
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. You've won seventy six nothing, fifty two to three,

905
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: forty to six, and fifty two to thirteen, So listen.

906
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: Schedules a joke dominated everybody. Then you go Kentucky South Carolina,

907
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: so you should be six and oh, I don't even

908
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: know if you're an old Miss fan. Then it gets

909
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: interesting at LSU Oklahoma at Arkansas, who's sneaky, not bad.

910
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: They easily could have beat Oklahoma State. They're running back.

911
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: Number twenty two is a really good player. You don't

912
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: play Tennessee, but you do play Georgia. I think there's

913
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: a very decent chance that will Miss. Let's just give

914
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: them an L to Georgia goes eleven and one, so

915
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: that means they could be in the SEC championship game,

916
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: played Georgia again, Tennessee or who you know, play someone

917
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: else again and be in the playoffs. So yes, one,

918
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: Jackson Dark could be the number one overall pick. Clearly,

919
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: the best players in college football right now are not

920
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in terms of like just the best pure players

921
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: are Travis Henry, who is remarkable. I mean he had

922
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: a sweet open field tackle, he had the game winning

923
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: fumble forced. He's a great player on offense. Will Johnson,

924
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: the corner from Michigan who got banged up in that

925
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: game at another pick six. He's elite. I think Tennessee

926
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: has a defensive lineman who's elite. You know, the quarterbacks

927
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: are Shador who has a lot of NFL attributes. It's

928
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: hard to judge him in that offense because Pat Shermer.

929
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so funny everyone the discourse on Dion,

930
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: because of course the media gets mad when you rip

931
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: the media, and Dion's constantly going back and forth. To me,

932
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: I don't care at all about that. I don't pay

933
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: any attention. I refuse to even comment. I don't even

934
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: give a shit. You'd have to pay me to give

935
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: a shit, and even then I wouldn't care. But to me,

936
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: the thing to be critical on Dion is like and

937
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: what I mean is like banning the reporter, saying the

938
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: reporters are jealous of the players getting paid. Like, I'm sorry,

939
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: I think there's some merit to that. I'm not saying

940
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent accurate with that. But I texted

941
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: with a scouting buddy the other day, or was talking

942
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: to him on the phone, and I was like, what

943
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: is a player parking lot at these Power five schools

944
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: look like right now, He's like, bro, it looks like

945
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean these guys, but you know what

946
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: the average uh you know, reporter dude working on a

947
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: newspaper makes. He makes nothing, So I don't think he's

948
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: totally off base. Now, Dion brings a lot on himself.

949
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: But the thing, no one's ever critical on him. He's like,

950
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: you hired Pat Shermer to be euroc like that, that's

951
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: a there's substance behind that criticism. Wait, you went into

952
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: a season with a quarterback who might go in the

953
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 1: top five, who is your son, and Travis Hunter, who

954
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: more than likely is the most talented player you'll ever coach,

955
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: and you named Pat Schrmer as your oc.

956
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 2: DED.

957
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you don't drink or do drugs, Like

958
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: what were you on when you made that decision? But no,

959
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: everyone's so consumed with and he's so being into the media.

960
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: I got news for you, No one cares. Got a

961
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: question for the mailbag. I think one of the most

962
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: underrated storylines right now is DeVante and I wanted to

963
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on the situation. Do you think he

964
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: was sold to Bill of goods by his hometown Raiders

965
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: with Jimmy g at the same time a promising roster.

966
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: Or is he also to blame for making the move

967
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: to a doom franchise. He's one of the great wide

968
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: receiver talents of his generation, but he obviously is unhappy

969
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, and it seems like anyone could have

970
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: foretold the situation. How do you think it relates to

971
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: other top talents and their evaluation of landing spots when

972
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: it's time to move on from their current team. I

973
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: think it's a good lesson is I think for most

974
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: athletes and most high level people in business, the longer

975
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: you do something, the easier it is to be unemotional

976
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: about it. Because when you make emotional decisions, it's when

977
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: I think you make bad decisions. It's why family businesses

978
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: can have their challenges because there's money involved and there's

979
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: emotional you know, situations involved with brothers, sisters, parents, whatever.

980
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: That's why it gets complicated. And I think DeVante one

981
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: he is really really good friends with Derek Carr, and

982
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: he wanted to play with Derek Carr, which I don't

983
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: totally blame him. He's like Derek's thrown twenty five thirty touchdowns,

984
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: like we can have success. And he grew up a

985
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: raiderstand and I'm pretty sure you know it was hard

986
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: for certain family members to come to Green Bay games.

987
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: I think he has an older grandparents that couldn't make

988
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: it the game. So it was a lot easier as

989
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: family with Raider fans. And they obviously paid him a

990
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: ton of money, which was very lucrative no state income

991
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: tax in Vegas, Like it's been lucrative to him, but

992
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: it's been a little Randy Moss for the Raiders twenty

993
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: years ago, like kind of forces you into relevancy, which

994
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: is crazy because think how many wide receivers are you know,

995
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: shiny and he was a superstar with Aaron And I

996
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: think if he could listen, I don't think he'd changed

997
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: his decision. But I think anyone that wasn't emotionally tied

998
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: to the city situation on what it told him, this

999
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: isn't a good idea. And I think looking back, like,

1000
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: let's face it, the Raiders weren't in position to make

1001
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: that trade. I mean they were because they had the

1002
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: assets of trade for him, but it didn't make sense

1003
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: there were so many players away just one of those

1004
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: bad deals for everyone involved. Even though the Raiders get

1005
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: to sell more jerseys, Davante gets to make a lot

1006
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: more money, but it felt like everyone lost, you know,

1007
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: and it's sad. I like Davonte a lot. I don't

1008
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: know him personally, but I'm close with his his mentor slash.

1009
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: You know, a long time offseason coach who's now in

1010
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: New Orleans coaching wide receivers, Keith Williams. I obviously knew

1011
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: all those people at Present State when he came. Like

1012
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: he's just a high level cat, and I think he

1013
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: made an emotional decision because there were elements outside of

1014
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: business that were there, Like I think a lot of

1015
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: teams would have been willing to pay him a lot

1016
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: of money, but he only wanted to go to the Raiders,

1017
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: and the Raiders willing to trade for him, and kind

1018
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: of the rest is history, and he's just it's just

1019
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: sad because he should be playing for big time game,

1020
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, in big time games. It would be fun

1021
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: to see him on the Steelers, the Chiefs, some of

1022
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: the Bills, like some of these really good teams right now.

1023
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: Lifelong Packer fan, it feels like Lafleur gets left out

1024
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: of the conversation when talking about the best coaches in

1025
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: the league. I think the list goes Andy McVeigh, Kyle Lafleur.

1026
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: Why do you think he gets left out of the conversation.

1027
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: Colin and I talked about this the other day. Is one.

1028
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: I think that first year he was overshadowed by or

1029
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: the first couple of years Rogers, and that just happens.

1030
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Rogers wins MVPs, Aaron gets all the credit and Matt

1031
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: didn't get that much, even though I remember when he

1032
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: got the award he thanked Matt and in a weird way,

1033
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: he didn't get enough credit for last year with Jordan Love.

1034
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: But I just threw on the highlights before I press record,

1035
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: like a twelve minute YouTube package that the NFL puts out.

1036
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy how good he had Malik Willis looking, but

1037
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: also the stuff he was running. You know, some quick hitters,

1038
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: motion guys, get him in the flat, Malik hitting him

1039
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: in stride, having Malik run around Milke Willis. Malik Willis

1040
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: looked like the Colts want Anthony Richardson to look like.

1041
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: Think about that one guy was had for a seventh

1042
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 1: round pick three weeks ago. The other guy went fourth

1043
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: in the draft. First of all, enjoy the show. Thank you, Blake.

1044
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate that big Vikings fan and have been thinking

1045
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: about the game against the Falcons later in the year

1046
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: that me and some buddies might go to it. That'll

1047
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: be fun. And if you think Flores will have Cousins

1048
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: number having practiced against him, or if Kirk will be

1049
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: able to succeed against his scheme with the way we're

1050
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: playing right now, I personally think it will be a

1051
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: long day for Cousins without a clean pocket. If the

1052
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: pocket is not clean, Cousins could be playing Georgia or Alabama.

1053
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: He is going to make mistakes, So fooling Cousins if

1054
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: you're not hitting him is not the end of the

1055
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: world for Kirk. So the scheme stuff moving guys back

1056
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: and forth, he can manage that. It's about getting him

1057
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: off the spot and making a move in the moment

1058
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: he has to move that he has problems. I know

1059
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: this if I was a Vikings fan sitting here today,

1060
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: It's like, Wait, we got a quarterback who looks better

1061
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: than the other guy for ten million dollars and the

1062
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: other guy wanted forty to forty five million dollars, and

1063
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: we also drafted a player who looks pretty promising. I'd

1064
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about our situation. I think optimism should

1065
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: be really, really high. It's like, wait, do we kind

1066
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: of have guys that know what they're doing right now?

1067
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: Because that's what it feels like. That's a huge economic swing.

1068
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: Think how much money the Falcons are paying Cousins these

1069
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: next couple of years. Now, Maybe if Donold throws forty

1070
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns and you guys win twelve thirteen games, what are

1071
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Let him walk, so you'd have to

1072
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: pay him. But he's a more dynamic player than Cousins. Now.

1073
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: Cousins has been doing it at a longer, higher level

1074
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: for longer. It seems like kickers have been or had

1075
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: a surprisingly good start the year. It's clear that kickers

1076
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: are stronger and more accurate than ever. Example, Brandon Aubrey

1077
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: made a sixty five yard field goal look like a

1078
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: chip shot and nobody was surprised. Is it possible in

1079
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: the next three to five years the NFL makes the

1080
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: goal posts closer together. I saw a guy, I mean,

1081
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: I saw Jake Moody miss a fifty yard field goal.

1082
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we overreact to this. Obviously, training and

1083
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: strength training is probably never been better for specific things.

1084
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say these kickers are probably

1085
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: stronger than they have been in years past. The isolated training,

1086
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's different. I mean, I don't pretend to be

1087
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: some kicking expert, but I've read some headlines, I know

1088
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: some blog posts about we need to put the goal

1089
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 1: posts and make the posts a smaller distance, like let's

1090
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: just pump the brakes. Let's just why if a guy

1091
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: can kick sixty of our yard field goal, a guy

1092
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: can kiss sixty five yard field goal, what's wrong with that?

1093
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: I have no problem with it. I'm not one of

1094
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: those people that say we need to change. We're three

1095
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: weeks in two coming from a Bears fan, did the

1096
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: team screw up in hiring Shane Waldron over Clint Kubiak?

1097
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: I saw some of Seattle fans actually happy with the

1098
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: offense this year compared to last season. Waldron looks to

1099
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: be the problem, and I think he's gonna get ebra

1100
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: Flues fired. How bad the offense looks. Do you think

1101
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: the Bears have a chance at landing Ben Johnson? If

1102
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm a Bears fan and let's face it. I mean,

1103
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: as of the day, you'd say Eberflus is a dead

1104
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: man walking. I don't think we can afford to risk

1105
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: hiring one of these coordinators because what if they are

1106
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: over their head. I think the guy I would hire

1107
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: would be Mike Vrabel. Get Mike Vrabel and have him

1108
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: hire an offensive, good offensive coordinator. Now you go, John

1109
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: that stands for everything that you're against. I think you're

1110
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: so invested into Caleb Williams that if you hire Slowick

1111
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: or you hire Clint Kubiak, and if they are not

1112
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: a good quote unquote head coach that is that's very,

1113
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: very risky. Now it's easy. It's like, well, we got

1114
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: the next Kyle or McVeigh or Andy Reid. What if

1115
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: you got the next the litany of guys that have failed,

1116
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: I would try to hit a double. I think sometimes

1117
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: the Bears and just teams in general, when they're in

1118
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: a situation like that, like, you guys have a lot

1119
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: of good players, Let's just get the train on the tracks,

1120
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: because I think the variants on a Slowick or a

1121
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: Kubiak or a Ben Johnson who has been scared to

1122
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: become a head coach could be a home run. But

1123
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: it could be a fucking disaster. I mean a disaster.

1124
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 1: Or if I tell you Mike Vrabel is your next

1125
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: head coach, is it safe to say you're gonna be

1126
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: pretty good over the next two or three years, and

1127
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: then if in three years you're like, this isn't good enough,

1128
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have. But to me, in

1129
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: your situation with Caleb, who to me needs to be

1130
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: corralled and just kind of like settled down a little bit,

1131
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: I think Vrabel's a safe option if I'm one of

1132
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: these teams with just nothing going for me. Yeah, whatever,

1133
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: you guys have something going for you. The other thing

1134
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: is you need a good Your division is well coached. Lafour,

1135
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, Dan Campbell, like it's these guys are gonna

1136
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: be there for a while. So if you get it

1137
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: wrong with the coordinator spot, that's pretty risky. And I

1138
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: get like, well, what if Vrabel's offensive coordinator does a

1139
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: good job, he leaves. I understand that, but I don't know.

1140
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: I get very nervous with the slowics and the Kubiaks

1141
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: and those type guys, both of them, I mean Kubiaks

1142
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: called plays for three games, three games, one game, against

1143
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio. He got punked. Flores just took Bobby Slok

1144
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: to the Woodshit, he's called games for seventeen games, a

1145
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: playoff game, eighteen twenty one games in his life, twenty

1146
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: one games. I think you guys need experience. I mean,

1147
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm serious. Just get an experienced guy who just knows

1148
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: what he's doing. We're not trying to win the Super Bowl.

1149
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: We're just trying to go to the playoffs, like back

1150
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: to back years. It's early in the season, but we're

1151
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: seeing struggles from this year's rookie quarterback class and a

1152
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: lot of success from previous written off quarterbacks Darnold Baker, Karr,

1153
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: Malik Willis, and now even Andy Dolton. Do you think

1154
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: the league will start to trend back to the days

1155
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: of giving their rookie quarterbacks time to develop. I think

1156
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: it's tough because I'm recording this part before Washington plays, like,

1157
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: what are they supposed to do? What Jaden said behind

1158
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. I think Mariota's even hurt right now? What

1159
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: were the Bears gonna sign like Gardner Minshew to start

1160
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: over Caleb. I'm pro playing guys. I think it depends

1161
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: who you are, and also depends on the situation of

1162
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: the team. We've seen guys, I mean Peyton Manning started

1163
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: right away, started immediately in nineteen ninety eight. You know,

1164
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:52,520
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford started immediately in two thousand and seven. So quarterbacks,

1165
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: and you just take your lumps and you figure it out. Now,

1166
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: you could argue that breaks some guys, and some of

1167
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: the guys have to go other places to resurrect their career.

1168
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: Jared Goff started immediately. I mean Brock Purdy got to

1169
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: start as a rookie. He was a seventh round pick.

1170
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott immediate starter. I'm a huge believer in there

1171
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: is no correct path for anything in life. My path

1172
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: is different than your path. Manning's path is different than

1173
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: Brady's path, is different than Aaron Rodgers' path, so that

1174
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: there's no guaranteed path to success. Everyone's different. Now, some

1175
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: paths are bad for that individual person and can derail

1176
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: their career. But the best part about the NFL, especially

1177
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: when you're a high pick, you're gonna get several chances.

1178
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: Diana Russini just said that if they were willing to

1179
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: trade him, there'll be four or five teams willing to

1180
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: trade for him right now, which I think is a

1181
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: little crazy being Bryce Young, given how much money makes

1182
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: even giving up a seventh round pick based on what

1183
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: we've seen, if Bryce Young had been a six round

1184
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: pick and had been the Panther started the last two years,

1185
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: nobody would trade for But he's the number one pick

1186
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: and he has the pedigree. So when you get drafted

1187
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: high and have the quote unquote pedigree, it's why teams

1188
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: are going to be interested in Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold,

1189
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: in Bryce Young no matter how bad you look. It's

1190
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: the one big disadvantage you get. When you're a late

1191
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: round pick and you struggle, people think you can't play.

1192
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 1: Where when you're drafted high and you struggle, people think, oh,

1193
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: it's a situation. It's the team, it's the coach. Yeah,

1194
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Monday Morning Pod segment. You could do

1195
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: a section on the show each Monday and call it

1196
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: Monday Morning Mulligan, and that would be a team that

1197
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: played poorly on the last Sunday of football. But it

1198
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: doesn't change your opinion on that player or team. It

1199
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: just deem it a bad game and you're willing to

1200
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: give them a pass on their performance. I like the guy.

1201
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea as a Jags fan. And

1202
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson doubter. Do you think it's possible the Jags

1203
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: move off Doug if they start zero to four. I

1204
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: feel like Doug's inability to move off Press Taylor has

1205
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: and tied himself to Press and if you want one gone,

1206
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: you must fire the other. He does have a weird

1207
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: loyalty to Press Taylor. I'm obviously recording this part before

1208
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: the Monday night game. I think that place could get

1209
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: really weird really fast that if they don't make the playoffs.

1210
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: I'd be a little shocked if he got fired early

1211
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: in the season because I'd have to look at their

1212
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff, but who would they implement. But I do

1213
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: think he's coaching this year for his job, and I

1214
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: do think anything less than being in the playoffs come

1215
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: the second week in January, he will be fired. And

1216
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: I think Trent Bulky will be fired in that place

1217
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: will have full court press of Bill Belichick. That would

1218
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: be my guess. A lot of people are sending me

1219
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: the memes and the pictures of Arthur Blank, who put

1220
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: himself in his own Hall of Fame and a ring

1221
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: of Honor listen to I would say pretty high percentage

1222
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: chance I will never be as rich as Arthur blank

1223
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: slash own an NFL team. So maybe that warps your

1224
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: opinion of yourself. But I can't imagine being that rich,

1225
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: that successful and needing to put my name in the

1226
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. I mean, bro, what are you? It's

1227
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: just the jokes right themselves? Nobody. I've listened to a

1228
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: couple of podcasts today on a million text chains about it. No,

1229
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: how could anyone take that? Seriously? Can you imagine some

1230
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: of the text chains of employees for the Atlanta Falcons

1231
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: are we really can you imagine the guy that had

1232
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: to I don't know if they engrave it or they

1233
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: they put, you know, big letters up there. I honestly

1234
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't really paying attention to halftime. I was eating dinner,

1235
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: so I don't know if they showed it on TV,

1236
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: but I guess it feels like a lot of people

1237
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: don't necessarily engrave it into the concrete. They almost, you know,

1238
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: kind of put letters on top. Why would you do that? Also,

1239
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: what have you done build a stadium? Cook it cool?

1240
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,879
Speaker 1: I struggle understanding why more teams don't take the approach

1241
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: of starting a veteran quarterback while letting their rookie quarterback develop.

1242
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: As a former Panthers fan, seeing how the Bryce Young

1243
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: situation has played out, my question is, why aren't more

1244
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 1: teams interested in having veteran guys Darnald, Flaccojas Dalton, Tyrod

1245
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: even compete for the starting job while letting the rookie develop.

1246
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: You and others rightfully so mocked Atlanta for taking Pennix

1247
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: while acquiring cousins, but seeing most of the rookie performances,

1248
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't know anymore contracts aside, Is there a reason

1249
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: teams are more willing to throw underdeveloped rookies into the

1250
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: fire instead of letting a Sam Darnold, Andy Dalton or

1251
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett or any other veteran compete to be the

1252
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: immediate starter. What's an economic problem? Because the value in

1253
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: having a rookie quarterback is their contract. So if I

1254
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: waste two or three years while the guy sits and

1255
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: we aren't competing to win the Super Bowl, I have

1256
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: just wasted his greatest asset. The Packers with Jordan Love,

1257
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: who cares their guy was winning MVPs and they were

1258
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: impeding to win the super Bowl. But in other situations,

1259
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: when a guy sits and you don't win big, it's

1260
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: a waste. The Chiefs won the division, hosted a playoff game,

1261
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: lost to the Titans, and immediately got rid of Alex

1262
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: fir Patrick because his value with the contract was important.

1263
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 1: They can utilize that money around him. So I think

1264
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: that's a huge element that one you know right away

1265
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: or within a short period of time, and then you

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Speaker 1: can utilize that contract to your benefit if the guy

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Speaker 1: is just a solid player, let alone a star. That's

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Speaker 1: a huge reason. It all comes back like this is

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Speaker 1: a business to the money in paying a guy five

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Speaker 1: six seven million dollars, what was a huge benefit of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans this offseason. They have a lot of

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Speaker 1: firepower to spend because their quarterback doesn't make much money

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Speaker 1: that one day CJ will make fifty sixty million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year. Now he's making like five six seven whatever

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Speaker 1: his You know, the bonus gets spread out over four years.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean that that is the

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Speaker 1: huge advantage to find out And I also think we

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Speaker 1: have recent examples of a lot of guys having immediate success,

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Speaker 1: So you go, why are we waiting because most of

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Speaker 1: the time, if you're a team that drafts the guy

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Speaker 1: really high and you start a Dalton, start a Flacco,

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Speaker 1: your team's not going to be that good. I mean, Dalton,

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Speaker 1: I know, looked excellent yesterday, but if they started him

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Speaker 1: for seventeen games, realistically, they're not going to look like

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Speaker 1: that most of the time. I just think it gets

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Speaker 1: back to economics, and I think it gets back to

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Speaker 1: having that rookie contract and using it to your advantage

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Speaker 1: to sign other players and make moves to build up

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Speaker 1: your team, because one day, if you do hit on

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Speaker 1: that player, you got to pay him a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't, you want to know quickly so

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Speaker 1: you can move off and look for a new guy.

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Speaker 1: Like the clock is tick king of me. This isn't baseball.

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Speaker 1: You get to sit a guy in the minors and

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Speaker 1: until he comes up to the big leagues, his contract

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Speaker 1: doesn't start. That's not the way it works. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the moment the guy is drafted, ye're one baby. The

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Speaker 1: volume m