Speaker 1: When I right, y'all all across the USC Compton lots.
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Speaker 1: another episode the Gangster Chronicles Podcast. Not with my homeboys.
Speaker 1: You know, make sure you hit that I heart app,
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Speaker 1: iPhone users. Hit that purple MICUs on your phone. You
Speaker 1: know those lights that you hang up in your backyard,
Speaker 1: the purple lights. You know the fly hit him? Is
Speaker 1: that the flies keep the flies from coming in bees
Speaker 1: and stuff. The black male is like one of those
Speaker 1: bees man and the light is the penitentiary system. Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it like this. It ain't just
Speaker 1: with with black males, just with everything and everybody. This
Speaker 1: world is designed is a circle. Everything is repeats itself.
Speaker 1: All the robberies, murders, everything repeats itself, especially in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Everything is a cycle, and it just repeats itself. Killings, rape, robbery, homies,
Speaker 1: fighting homies, homies killing homies. This ship has been going
Speaker 1: on from the beginning of time. Yeah, a week at
Speaker 1: our I guess second rapper man, you know, casting over
Speaker 1: two times by the FBI man you know, fist saying
Speaker 1: he's a member of a violent street game, street game
Speaker 1: rather than um, you know, one of eighteen people charged
Speaker 1: with drug trafficking and reggaeteer in New York City and upstate.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of stuff going on. And when
Speaker 1: we got Friends of the show, Grade Katian here tonight
Speaker 1: detect the grade katiing just here to kind of shie
Speaker 1: me in on some of this stuff. There's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. Why these guys keep getting targeted? Man,
Speaker 1: how are they getting themselves in these situations? You go ahead,
Speaker 1: go up man. Um. Honestly, Um, I think it's like,
Speaker 1: once again, it's the product of the environment and it's
Speaker 1: the way we walk or the life that's put ahead
Speaker 1: of us whatever. I mean. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: us join gangs, you know, feeling that we want to
Speaker 1: be associated, or we want to protect the neighborhood or whatever.
Speaker 1: But we tend to forget when we turn or we
Speaker 1: try to turn into regular men. The pitfalls of gang
Speaker 1: banging kind of follows us, you know, everywhere we go.
Speaker 1: And that's your face of James. It's a lot of them.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of niggas who still want to be associated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but if you make it out of the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Everybody said they want to make it out the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: and everybody said they want to be able to take
Speaker 1: care of their kids and their mama's. Let's get their
Speaker 1: mama's out the hood. But our biggest problem is going
Speaker 1: back to the hood too, because we want the homies
Speaker 1: to say, all you're looking out for us, or that's
Speaker 1: the big homie, or is this and that if you
Speaker 1: make it out the hood, you get out the hood.
Speaker 1: I think every man that that that that walked this life,
Speaker 1: should have their own way of trying to get out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And if you get out
Speaker 1: and the homies ain't there to say, man, you did that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We're proud of you are
Speaker 1: the motherfucker, don't come to the hood no more. You
Speaker 1: see the difference. They main't your friends. So we gotta
Speaker 1: understand who's our friends and who's not. I mean, if
Speaker 1: the homies want to see me doing good and better,
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell me not to come around there no more. Man,
Speaker 1: you're doing good. Don't funk with these dudes and this
Speaker 1: and that, which I get a lot of that. I
Speaker 1: get a lot of that. But you know, we we
Speaker 1: we we go back to the hood and want to
Speaker 1: help somebody, help the homies, and then we we want
Speaker 1: the hood to shine. And the whole time you're trying
Speaker 1: to make the hood shine, you're digging. You're you're digging
Speaker 1: a dish for yourself, because sooner or later, somebody out
Speaker 1: of that crowd is gonna say, after he get busted,
Speaker 1: where y'all get this, how y'all hood comes from here
Speaker 1: to there? The homies? Now you in jail because you
Speaker 1: help the homies, and you know, it's different ways to
Speaker 1: help the homies. One one way to help the homies
Speaker 1: is getting the jit jobs. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: If if if they want to get up the ass
Speaker 1: that do a ninety five, put money in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: where they can come and go to work, put on
Speaker 1: uniform and make money the legit way. But no, everybody
Speaker 1: feeled it doping and and the pistols ain't doing them
Speaker 1: becausing a bigger problem than we had before. So it's
Speaker 1: it's different ways to do that. You know what they're
Speaker 1: saying is um you know what it was an indictment
Speaker 1: that was unsealed on Tuesday name in eight teams expected
Speaker 1: gang members who have been charged with racketeering, murdering, narcotics, firearms,
Speaker 1: and other fraud offenses. You know, as in the indictment,
Speaker 1: they you know, a legend that he was a member
Speaker 1: of the Guerrilla Stone gang, violence, trafficing, narcotics, and even
Speaker 1: engaged in fraud by exploiting benefits programs, you know them
Speaker 1: cards that everybody had running around when it was getting
Speaker 1: there getting a little you know, bring it off of
Speaker 1: and now that everybody you know, catching cases behind that
Speaker 1: silly ship, I think, UM, when you start looking at
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Greg can probably attest to this, UM,
Speaker 1: when you start looking at served dudes as far as
Speaker 1: game members, UM, that stretch that line of of you know,
Speaker 1: broken laws, you can attach to a ship. I mean
Speaker 1: because let's face a lot of niggas from the neighborhoods,
Speaker 1: the dry bys and killed and all that type of ship.
Speaker 1: So to attest all that bullshit, I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: when they start looking at certain motherfucker's, if you want
Speaker 1: to bring up Rico as you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: They're just gonna look at the long heathline of history
Speaker 1: of the neighborhood. You get me like, oh, yeah, they've
Speaker 1: been killing since the seventies and so and soul soul
Speaker 1: drugs and we know he sold and he was big
Speaker 1: time and these motherfucker's over here. So I'll just look
Speaker 1: at it as when you go, yeah, we can attach
Speaker 1: Rico to a lot of motherfucker's if they game members,
Speaker 1: if they neighborhoods have been known to being some of
Speaker 1: that old tory, your ship. Absolutely. But let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, and this is a question like UM for
Speaker 1: YouTube gride I guess would be for you. Um, you
Speaker 1: have a guy he's named in this reco indictment. Let's
Speaker 1: say he just a member of the game and they
Speaker 1: had sometimes you know, you've got members of games. Some
Speaker 1: of them got jobs, some of them are selling dope,
Speaker 1: something got everybody not active. Let's say he's like a
Speaker 1: member of this game. He may go around and kick
Speaker 1: it here and there, hang out with him, at him
Speaker 1: coming to the club, with him, going videos, but he's
Speaker 1: doing his rap thing. Could he possibly have been named
Speaker 1: in that reco active they hadn't caught him in doing
Speaker 1: it the wrong? No, No, that's not the way RICO works.
Speaker 1: So you've got things that like you have things you've
Speaker 1: heard of like gang injunctions where they'll target a gag
Speaker 1: and they're doing a junction where they just put a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, energy into um even minor crimes,
Speaker 1: but with racketeering it's a completely different. Things. You have
Speaker 1: to have predicate acts, and every charge in RICO has
Speaker 1: to have or predicate act, and there's only so many
Speaker 1: predicate acts. Some some crimes don't qualify as predict cad acts.
Speaker 1: But things like you know, obviously um extortion, money laundering,
Speaker 1: murder um, using public utilities to commit crimes, you know,
Speaker 1: talking on the phone, you're making boat deals, that type
Speaker 1: of ship. All those things blend in because Rico was
Speaker 1: actually originally designed to go after the mob right back
Speaker 1: in the day. And then they started in a late
Speaker 1: night probably the late eighties, early nineties, they started to
Speaker 1: doing a gangs, Mexican gangs, Black gangs, motorcycle clubs. And
Speaker 1: they're like, man, Rico works just as effectively here. And
Speaker 1: but to answer your question, you know, there has to
Speaker 1: you would have to commit a particular crime that's on
Speaker 1: a list of crimes that fall under the umbrella of Rico. Okay,
Speaker 1: he got caught doing something. He got caught something either
Speaker 1: on the phone or you know, transferring money, anything like
Speaker 1: that would have qualified and means, and it's disattributed to
Speaker 1: because at this point they're already investigating the game. Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It all starts out with a proposal to do a
Speaker 1: racketeering act on a group of people. How long do
Speaker 1: they sit on a case like that, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what do they watch? They could be from
Speaker 1: a day or year. They were doing a racketearing act
Speaker 1: on Death Row from late nineties three to ninety four,
Speaker 1: all the way on the stuff till and just sitting
Speaker 1: back and taking taking notes and just watching and watching
Speaker 1: connecting dots. So they can go for years. And what
Speaker 1: another kind of you know, not disturbing, but another kind
Speaker 1: of concerning thing about it is there can be a
Speaker 1: long stretch of time between crimes. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, let's say this guy, hypothetically, six years ago,
Speaker 1: he gets another dude in the neighborhood. You know, he's
Speaker 1: probably rhymes on the side or whatever, but he get
Speaker 1: his break, Um tax Stone start messing with him. Did
Speaker 1: he get you know, picked up by rock Nation. So
Speaker 1: now he changed his life. He's starting to do shows
Speaker 1: and get show money. You know, you tend to move
Speaker 1: out to the neighborhood when you start getting a little somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, you upgrade. You can't stay in the same spot,
Speaker 1: you know. So you're telling me that this could have
Speaker 1: been him. Dude call him on the phone like, man,
Speaker 1: I need a ah some some um. What's that they
Speaker 1: smoke out there? Haze? I need some haze, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And he go serve his homeboy and
Speaker 1: eph weed. But he just happened to be listened to
Speaker 1: because he's part of this whole thing. Now that he's
Speaker 1: missed a big time rapp and they don't give a say, well,
Speaker 1: this dude, your soul's weed. They probably want him now
Speaker 1: because you're bigger. Yeah, I'm saying because that makes the
Speaker 1: case look juicier. Well, that's what I'm saying. So they
Speaker 1: could paint him as this dude that's funneling all this
Speaker 1: dope and money for this, and that they really try
Speaker 1: to throw motherfucker's in the grease, don't they. Well that
Speaker 1: to the whole idea is to get as much leverage
Speaker 1: as you can so that when you collect all of
Speaker 1: these people, you have so much leverage on them all
Speaker 1: because they're threatened with this idea of racketeering enhanced crimes.
Speaker 1: And now you're like, oh, ship, all I did was
Speaker 1: this what you per seen as a minor thing. But
Speaker 1: now you're looking at a lot of exposure and that's
Speaker 1: gonna force you to cooperate. Plus oh so plus, if
Speaker 1: they get him, he probably got a little bit more
Speaker 1: going on than the other cats that's in the indictment
Speaker 1: with him, So they probably could grab him just in
Speaker 1: hopes that he like man I got a career going
Speaker 1: on and all this ship happening. Man, Oh, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be easy to flip him. You don't want to lose
Speaker 1: the ship. But would he throw him with this regal wacons?
Speaker 1: You see, he's on the run. Now, if you were
Speaker 1: advising him, would you tell him to turn himself in him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can only run so far. He's gonna get caught.
Speaker 1: And when it comes. Now, when he gets caught, obviously
Speaker 1: that's gonna work against him because it's gonna show when
Speaker 1: he goes to his his here may maybe you're just
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out right now. Yeah, that's I
Speaker 1: think he's getting together to get the lawyer together, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, seeing what is the actual charges
Speaker 1: that they're trying to bring against him? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you can probably you can probably say
Speaker 1: that's happening too, because I wouldn't. That wouldn't be a
Speaker 1: smart move. Yeah, because this guy, you know, casting is
Speaker 1: he's been in prison before. I mean, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a street he's a street catch soon so he know
Speaker 1: he know how to play it. You know, he's he's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, got the reputation of being somebody that's authentic
Speaker 1: and official, you know what I'm saying. I mean, he
Speaker 1: still was associated to his neighborhood, no telling what his
Speaker 1: plans were, you know what I'm saying, because he was
Speaker 1: getting you know, he rap career, was being a little successful.
Speaker 1: You know, he was up there. My man was moving
Speaker 1: units and all that ship videos and ship and all that. So, um,
Speaker 1: we would just hope that he would be making the
Speaker 1: decision to just let me get my ship in order
Speaker 1: before I have to go do it. That's what's going down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't, like I said, it seemed like it's
Speaker 1: just would you say, Greg, you've being from law enforcement,
Speaker 1: actually law enforcement, do you think that this whole system
Speaker 1: is just designs? May be asking a rhetorical question, Um,
Speaker 1: is it designed for certain people to fail? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think you get you know, people, as you guys
Speaker 1: have alluded to. You know, you get caught up in it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're caught up and you you don't need to
Speaker 1: know how deep you're in it until all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you get hit with a you know, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody's kicking in your door and you realize, like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Two years ago I was on the phone
Speaker 1: and you know, selling a couple of pounds of weed.
Speaker 1: The next thing you know, I'm wrapped up in this
Speaker 1: racketeerian thing. And you know, so I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people just don't realize, um, how uh you know,
Speaker 1: precarious it can be. And and and then we gotta
Speaker 1: look at it. When we out there committing our crimes,
Speaker 1: are doing what we do to get our money. We
Speaker 1: don't we're not paying attention to the consequences. Who might
Speaker 1: be who and we're doing it. So at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, when the when the ship happens, we
Speaker 1: already know we We were in the thick of the ship.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a trap. I think we
Speaker 1: put ourselves into travel, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you they're not just coming out there okay today, We're
Speaker 1: gonna set whoop whoop and get them and and make
Speaker 1: them by the dope from us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think we were already out there in the streets
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing. So we a lot of this
Speaker 1: ship that we do is on us, and we gotta
Speaker 1: be accountable for the ship we do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's some of us has got all away
Speaker 1: with a lot of ship, and I'm sitting here and
Speaker 1: I can honestly testify to that. And maybe I got
Speaker 1: away with a lot of ship because certain things in
Speaker 1: the hood I didn't like, or do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? I was a straight fucking gang banger. I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't even want to. And I couldn't see
Speaker 1: my self snatching purses from what the wind that wasn't
Speaker 1: game banging. I didn't see myself braving a female that
Speaker 1: wasn't gag banging. My whole life was the opposite society.
Speaker 1: This is what I thought it was supposed to be,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So any time I got
Speaker 1: trapped and caught into that, I didn't have a choice
Speaker 1: but to sit in jail and go to court behind
Speaker 1: this ship. Whether whether I win, lost or did some
Speaker 1: time or whatever, it was my actions the consequences. It's me,
Speaker 1: really what I'm trying to say. And that's for all
Speaker 1: of us across the board. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We out to know him, we're doing rome, But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, why are we complaining about
Speaker 1: how we get down? And I put myself in that
Speaker 1: same trick back as everybody out there doing what they're
Speaker 1: doing and get caught up and ship like this. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I had a choice to make,
Speaker 1: Like with death Row, I had a choice to either
Speaker 1: rock and roll with the dumb ship. Y'all going over
Speaker 1: there and do your thing. I'm gonna go over here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get the shop. I ain't got time
Speaker 1: for that. I ain't going against the grain. I ain't
Speaker 1: doing this other dumb ship. It just wasn't me and
Speaker 1: and those cats that felt the same way I felt.
Speaker 1: We all got choices every everything we do. Every time
Speaker 1: I put my pants on and put my band down
Speaker 1: in my pocket, I knew inside and I knew when
Speaker 1: I put my pistol on the hill it was I
Speaker 1: might run into gangs and Jackson, I might run into sos.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm a day out there,
Speaker 1: and Lingwood was out there deep. But I knew the consequences.
Speaker 1: But I still had my pistol. Catch me with that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I don't don't go outside. So those chances that we took,
Speaker 1: now getting caught with a pistol, and all I said,
Speaker 1: I think let's go to jail, said there and deal
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, exactly, you know, I'm ship. I'm dealing
Speaker 1: with the ship fox. Fine terms. I'm just saying, we
Speaker 1: all have choices. Everything I know, Like you said, it
Speaker 1: was the choices you knew when you stepped off the
Speaker 1: porch and you put that that motherfucker pistol on your
Speaker 1: head that Lynnwood shares Mike Jack and motherfucker. But that's
Speaker 1: the chance I'm gonna take. Same with me. I rolled
Speaker 1: around with a motherfucker three eighty with gonna pop off
Speaker 1: vic dash that did I know that motherfucking the sheriffs
Speaker 1: or Compton p d was gonna be rolling through as
Speaker 1: soon as they see your motherfucker. They don't get a
Speaker 1: fun I'm a motherfucking eight folk. Cut listen, sh what'sh
Speaker 1: the breakdown once you get caught. But now, when you
Speaker 1: guys were doing that, and you know they're consequences of
Speaker 1: those that specific action, But what are you thinking in
Speaker 1: terms of like this is maybe part of a much
Speaker 1: bigger picture. Well, I just get caught with a pistol,
Speaker 1: but now I'm wrapped up in some kind of organized
Speaker 1: crime type of prosecution. Think you don't think like that
Speaker 1: thinking about what I thought was. Motherfucker, you better have
Speaker 1: a heat rolling through these motherfucking streaks or you don't
Speaker 1: get caught. Just like if I passed, I went out
Speaker 1: and put in work, and then I give that pistol
Speaker 1: to the homey. That pistol got something wing, but he
Speaker 1: ain't knowing he's thinking of homie. Ain't gonna do me
Speaker 1: like that. Now, a whole lot of us get caught
Speaker 1: up like that, you know what I'm saying, just because
Speaker 1: that pistol got some money. Now you're sitting in jail
Speaker 1: like God damn it. If I speak on this food,
Speaker 1: I can't do time in yere. I can't go back
Speaker 1: to the hood. So you take gotta take that goddamn wrap,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, motherfucker's ain't taking care of you, none
Speaker 1: of that ship. But these are the consequences that you
Speaker 1: take when you get up and you put that pistol
Speaker 1: in your hand. Are you getting that car and do
Speaker 1: what you do? Are you out there on the block
Speaker 1: selling dope. When we was on the block selling dope,
Speaker 1: the police used to pull up and and be doing this.
Speaker 1: Let me here, then let me see and put the
Speaker 1: step of cup on your edge. That ain't good enough, buddy.
Speaker 1: We out of here, and and motherfucker's breaking round something
Speaker 1: get away. Some don't. But being on the block, trying
Speaker 1: to sell up to what we think is feeding out
Speaker 1: families or kids are or so I can go get
Speaker 1: them nice tennis shoes or get the rims from our car.
Speaker 1: We ain't thinking about the ship that the people that's
Speaker 1: consuming them drugs, how the homie mommy is sucked up,
Speaker 1: but we're still selling it to it. We ain't thinking
Speaker 1: about none of that. So then we get busted because
Speaker 1: they've been watching the block. So when they hit the house,
Speaker 1: we go to jail. The breakdown of that is, Man,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't in there, and they I was outside and
Speaker 1: they took me in the house. Oh I was over there,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to selling no jobs. Now they've been
Speaker 1: sitting on your ass for a month, two months, a year.
Speaker 1: You can't get out of it. That's how the fans
Speaker 1: do it. They sit back and they make sure they
Speaker 1: got you. You can't go in and sit out and
Speaker 1: then not that ship at all. You can't So what
Speaker 1: that's what what I'm saying is and and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: using me as any example, so nobody can say. I'm
Speaker 1: saying they the choices I made got me where I went.
Speaker 1: The choices I made something, the pritison, the choices I
Speaker 1: made hurt a whole lot of people. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, The choices I made hurt my mom's. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is everybody got to be accountable
Speaker 1: for self. If we don't understand self and and don't
Speaker 1: understand what the we're doing in the consequences of how
Speaker 1: we do it, then we're gonna talk about this dude,
Speaker 1: death road, diggie. We're gonna talk about all these kids
Speaker 1: that get caught up, that gets money at a certain
Speaker 1: point in their life and then still want to go
Speaker 1: back to the bullshit. You make it. You made it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to come back. And that's the disturbing
Speaker 1: thing about this to me is it seems like it's
Speaker 1: always the rappers man, not wonderful times. And I feel conflicted.
Speaker 1: We're feeling this way because you know, I work in
Speaker 1: the music and this tree, and you know I love
Speaker 1: against the rap music like everybody else, But I always
Speaker 1: saw its entertainment, and I think maybe it's part I
Speaker 1: knew a lot of the artists and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: he's really a nice dude, but he can just you know,
Speaker 1: you knew how to talk about the honies around them
Speaker 1: real good. Don't necessarily mean you're phonny, but he knew
Speaker 1: how to convey what was going on in this community,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Exactly? Do you think they're
Speaker 1: purposely and this may be me reaching or whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of a conspiracy theorist. Um do you think that
Speaker 1: it was because it seems like black music rap music
Speaker 1: just kind of start And I ain't gonna say because
Speaker 1: the gangster rap, because it was still even the stuff
Speaker 1: when they was talking about, you know, public gating, he
Speaker 1: was gangster rapp if you think about it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, exactly, So it wasn't just like
Speaker 1: West Coast gangster rap. But did you notice it was
Speaker 1: a difference between you always had substance in your music,
Speaker 1: and it was always a reality, you know, it was
Speaker 1: always based in reality. On some songs you got the
Speaker 1: worst the end of the stick, right, But you had
Speaker 1: these dudes that was just so over the top of
Speaker 1: the banging man that got geographic for a minute. Remember
Speaker 1: that period in Games to Rap where it just got
Speaker 1: crazy for a minute. Um, and it's like the positive
Speaker 1: music just went way left right. Do you ever think
Speaker 1: it's like possible they just constructed all that ship man
Speaker 1: to flood us with this imagery. The artists are their labels,
Speaker 1: just like I'm talking about the labels man, and it
Speaker 1: may be kind of going left field, right, just think
Speaker 1: about this label is gonna explore what they can explore
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, like people don't know interscope
Speaker 1: is no but listen, I know, but listen, James, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, let me finish, let me let me land.
Speaker 1: You look at General Electric. They own stock and prisons, right,
Speaker 1: they own prisons. They own privately owned prisons. Now they
Speaker 1: actually own inn Scope records, you know n Scope records,
Speaker 1: they own them too. If they own prisons, would it
Speaker 1: be who them? Really? They out this thing and they
Speaker 1: have a motherfucker's sing about kom By y'all and having
Speaker 1: Will Smith making songs and all these happens. The lucky
Speaker 1: motherfucker's if they can make money off rappers, football players, uh,
Speaker 1: black entertainers, if they can make money off of basketball players.
Speaker 1: What's the difference they see a profit and merchandise. And
Speaker 1: black people as well as others have skills. And it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate that we don't own our own ship to to
Speaker 1: put our ship out there, like like death Rowing. Just say,
Speaker 1: if Chill would have just been one businessman, have been
Speaker 1: a businessman, death Row would have been up here by
Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying. But everybody want to
Speaker 1: play Bugsy Malone at a certain point in their life.
Speaker 1: Everybody want to be um see known or whatever. But
Speaker 1: just like you can't blame Priority Records for me making
Speaker 1: a record and going back and they put it out there.
Speaker 1: But it's me doing it this meet for trying to
Speaker 1: be something I ain't and then getting out there acting
Speaker 1: like I'm a real thug. Sooner later you get tested,
Speaker 1: you find out chaining the thug. Next thing you gotta
Speaker 1: do to prove you see, I see and I get
Speaker 1: all that. And it's not me necessarily blaming Priority Records
Speaker 1: or no record company. Right, But these people are invested
Speaker 1: into the prison industrial complex. They own private prisons, and
Speaker 1: they'll let you put this album out there. If you
Speaker 1: was talking about just straight mayhem killing them yes, but
Speaker 1: check this out. There have been incidents where people have
Speaker 1: said stuff that that that has been necessarily violent nature,
Speaker 1: but it went against the grain. They get their albums
Speaker 1: pulled off the shelf. So it seems like they stand
Speaker 1: for certain things and let other ship pass because I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let you turn
Speaker 1: around and say some ship like like some ship that
Speaker 1: we go against on our platform. That's when we're gonna
Speaker 1: motherfucker nip you in the bud. We're gonna kill your contract,
Speaker 1: We're gonna shelve your project, whatever you because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we, like James said, we don't
Speaker 1: own ship, okay, And a motherfucker dangler contracting your motherfucking
Speaker 1: face for a million dollars you think of broakeass motherfucker
Speaker 1: from Compton or Lone Beach is gonna sit down and
Speaker 1: be like m m no. They're gonna be like, well
Speaker 1: you want me to sign, give me my check, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna exploit it and they're gonna go invest in
Speaker 1: prisons and whoever they want to as president and all
Speaker 1: that motherfucking ship, and it don't matter to them. We
Speaker 1: we look at numbers. It's a profit to us. So
Speaker 1: if you want to go rap about shooting up the
Speaker 1: nigga down the street and pulling the drive by and
Speaker 1: all that, and then I'm checking numbers and I'm going,
Speaker 1: motherfucker want to buy that ship? Why not? Shouldn't I
Speaker 1: have a piece of it? Just like you? Just man,
Speaker 1: mother funer going to prisons every day? Right, why the
Speaker 1: fund should not get a piece of that. They're going
Speaker 1: to prison every day. Who else is gonna do it? You? Right?
Speaker 1: That's why the people start building private prisons. Fuck that.
Speaker 1: Let me you did it on that game, y'all sending
Speaker 1: water a ton of thousand niggas the prison a year.
Speaker 1: I need to get in on that game. It's so smart. Profit.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money in that. The county jail.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money, uh housing innation, the county jail,
Speaker 1: especially the story. You know what I'm saying. The prices
Speaker 1: of the noodles and all that shop to shop shop
Speaker 1: to you, no more like a bitch used to send
Speaker 1: you a packet. You had to go through that something
Speaker 1: like this billion floyd the fucking making money and then
Speaker 1: fucking rap record and you gotta buy your cup of
Speaker 1: noodles from the nigger who puts you in jail. I
Speaker 1: for kind of ship is there? My bitch can't even
Speaker 1: send me no draws or socks, no more. I gotta
Speaker 1: buy them straight from the motherfucker who housing me. And
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know for beating put it out there,
Speaker 1: but I heard, no, that's some cold And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there thinking about myself, like, man, I know, putting something
Speaker 1: like no, you can't, you girl, go to the swap
Speaker 1: me and get your socks for five ninety nine. Stay right,
Speaker 1: here's no more. You gotta's people putting fifty and sty
Speaker 1: fine college for for what six hours? We goddamn right.
Speaker 1: I used to call my mom gonna collect like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Why don't fucking build up? So I ain't don't know
Speaker 1: brand they're making money off of it? Why not? I mean,
Speaker 1: we ain't doing it. Hell no. The only thing we
Speaker 1: do what it's going to jail. We're spending the money,
Speaker 1: give me a contract and makes some fucking soaps and
Speaker 1: ship with all that ship, it all falls down on us.
Speaker 1: Let us stop bitching and complaining about how our lives are.
Speaker 1: My life was the way it was because I chose
Speaker 1: it that way. I didn't see it no other way.
Speaker 1: So I lived the way I thought was best for
Speaker 1: me and that and it got me through, you know,
Speaker 1: understanding a lot of ship. But then as I got older, damn,
Speaker 1: I realized what the funk am I doing, stitting on
Speaker 1: this fucking corner with the same old cats name, doing ship.
Speaker 1: And then when when I lost my brother, man, you're
Speaker 1: doing all of this for nothing. All of this ship
Speaker 1: is for nothing. Everything that I believed in was for nothing.
Speaker 1: And we gotta start thinking like that at a younger age,
Speaker 1: because you the only thing we're gonna do is get you.
Speaker 1: I've been shot four times, they got them still here,
Speaker 1: but I did more than than than my share. So
Speaker 1: for your brother to lose your brother represent the same ship,
Speaker 1: and then to to lose his life and the same ship,
Speaker 1: Fuck you niggas. When you'll talk about loyal to you
Speaker 1: fucking niggas, when you talk about friendship, it's no good.
Speaker 1: Everything I did was for nothing, for nothing, so you
Speaker 1: gotta look at it like that. But it was my
Speaker 1: choice to live the way I did the way it was.
Speaker 1: But I had a choice to make. Either I give
Speaker 1: it to the system or take my kids and start
Speaker 1: doing my thing and be there for my grandkids. If
Speaker 1: I'm not there for my grandkids, how can I protect
Speaker 1: my family doing life in prison. It's a waste of time.
Speaker 1: So I had to make a choice, and we all
Speaker 1: got to make choices right now. If if I'm making
Speaker 1: out of the hood and no need to go back,
Speaker 1: I don't have a reason to go back. It's certain
Speaker 1: cats over there that I deal with. Those are the
Speaker 1: ones I'm looking at. You can't take two hundred niggas
Speaker 1: from the neighborhood and think they all won't be right.
Speaker 1: You put them in your house, They're gonna steal from you.
Speaker 1: Because everybody is looking for that moment. They ain't looking
Speaker 1: for for longevity life. They're looking for that moment. And
Speaker 1: that's what's happening with all of these wrapper cats and
Speaker 1: all of these cats out here today. They yet to
Speaker 1: understand what life is about, and they think this trick
Speaker 1: bag that we're in, they think this is the only way.
Speaker 1: And then when you get people such as myself trying
Speaker 1: to tell them that this is not the only way.
Speaker 1: It's we have options. So let's stop blaming other motherfucking people.
Speaker 1: Let's stop saying the white people holding me down. I'm
Speaker 1: not a motherfucking slave. I can do what I wanna do.
Speaker 1: I get up eating ship. I'm a slave in prison.
Speaker 1: I want the programming, and motherfucker, you ain't got a choice.
Speaker 1: Are You're gonna stay in a in a motherfucking hole.
Speaker 1: You're gonna stay in the sale. So at some point
Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to program and that motherfucker, so
Speaker 1: learn how to do it here on the streets. Learn
Speaker 1: Half of us don't even have kids. The homies just
Speaker 1: going to prison, back and forth, back and forth, don't
Speaker 1: even have families, don't have kids, don't have grandkids. And
Speaker 1: then they come home and ship doesn't change. They don't
Speaker 1: know how to use God damn should mean Facebook? How
Speaker 1: do you do that? Like me? I don't do all
Speaker 1: that money and ship. I'd rather stay plain and simple
Speaker 1: where I understand it. When you know, cats come home
Speaker 1: thinking that you're in the program, but you can't because
Speaker 1: it's hard to get out of prison that they're doing
Speaker 1: fourteen years, seventeen years. We don't coming home to the
Speaker 1: system was already against you because you can't get a
Speaker 1: job and work. Now they're changing that. At first, you
Speaker 1: can't come home and go straight to work and live
Speaker 1: like a citizen. So it's gonna keep you down. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the system has a lot to do with us repeating history,
Speaker 1: going back to prison. Uh, I gotta go back to
Speaker 1: the block. It sell dope because every nney days they
Speaker 1: fired me because they my record pop up and they
Speaker 1: fire me. This is what was happening to me. So
Speaker 1: you can't do security work because as soon as they
Speaker 1: find out that noneing, they check, Oh you gotta go.
Speaker 1: You you fail to tell us this and on your application,
Speaker 1: and if you're honest, they don't call you back. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of that. We have to come
Speaker 1: back to the hood. We have to go back to
Speaker 1: the block. And then you got to catch that that
Speaker 1: that make it and make their way out thinking they're
Speaker 1: doing good by putting dope and guns in the hood. No,
Speaker 1: open up something positive and then tell homies to come
Speaker 1: work and that and and if you want to work
Speaker 1: and get the funk out of the streets, if he
Speaker 1: want to work for his money, because you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: sunk off no check money like you funk off drug money.
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna really, you're gonna really spend it the
Speaker 1: right way and then it gives you something. It gives
Speaker 1: you something here saying I've worked for this, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So I ain't feeling squander it off
Speaker 1: on on the bs or kicking it with the homies
Speaker 1: and making sure everybody getting loaded. You're gonna take your
Speaker 1: money and you're gonna you're gonna do what you gotta
Speaker 1: do with it. But that drug free money, you splash
Speaker 1: that ship. So if if any rapper out there today
Speaker 1: made it and want to go back to the hood
Speaker 1: and say he did good by the hood, open up
Speaker 1: a business. If it's if it's gardening and you buy
Speaker 1: two vans and put all the equipment you need to
Speaker 1: cut grass, that's a business. Everybody got along. And if
Speaker 1: you got these guys out here working and they're making
Speaker 1: their money, don't be cheap with them and make them
Speaker 1: seem they we're working for SETI five dollars a week.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna work for this food nor more. Don't
Speaker 1: do your people like that. You gotta be one hunting
Speaker 1: with your people, and you're only giving them that so
Speaker 1: they can have stability. Now now I feel different by myself.
Speaker 1: I don't ain't gonna going any with the only thing
Speaker 1: I gotta go to work. And that's how we changed
Speaker 1: that ship. That's how we stopped all of this reco ship.
Speaker 1: That's how we stopped the dumb ship. You ain't gotta
Speaker 1: put yourself and that life no more. Yeah. And the
Speaker 1: thing about this reco ship that I don't like, the
Speaker 1: Greg pointed out, there's some ship you could have did
Speaker 1: eight years ago. Yeah, especially if they leave in the
Speaker 1: case and and and they steadily monitored you. Like I said,
Speaker 1: if they building the case, you couldn't did some ship
Speaker 1: five years ago. But which is true, because like I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta attest to the something to the ship. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it's you know, uh, when you when you're
Speaker 1: a young man, you're coming up, you join the gang
Speaker 1: or whatever. You try to prove yourself or want to
Speaker 1: be alone because everybody you go to school with, you know, elementary,
Speaker 1: the grade school, you're hanging out, you know that make
Speaker 1: sure you want to just join it. I started banging
Speaker 1: because you know, I didn't have my father in the
Speaker 1: house type of ship, you know, and I went to
Speaker 1: school with niggas. We hung every day. You know. One
Speaker 1: of the homies got jumped. I felt like we all
Speaker 1: had to be a part of this, this system that
Speaker 1: was gang banging. You know, I didn't go out to
Speaker 1: to to sell the drugs or do that type of ship.
Speaker 1: All I gave a funk about was banging for the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: So as I grew and I started making something positive, saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be this rapper, I'm gonna tell stories about
Speaker 1: what I've been through, what I saw in the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: and you start getting a positive aspect. But did I
Speaker 1: still want to go back to the neighborhood. Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1: I still wanted to even though I'm living fucking an
Speaker 1: hour away and I'm driving different cars and living in
Speaker 1: a different house. I wanted to go to Compton every
Speaker 1: day and hanging the neighborhood because it was something that
Speaker 1: I wanted to show niggas that I didn't I wasn't
Speaker 1: an outsider so to speak. I don't look at myself
Speaker 1: as being somebody different. But that's that's what could have
Speaker 1: got you killed, because exactly if she ate Kent. No,
Speaker 1: it's on everybody's mind. Every time you go to the hood.
Speaker 1: You might have that one cat that said man that
Speaker 1: came doing it for me. I'm killing my food all
Speaker 1: day and not the chicken pushots at you are, and
Speaker 1: the homies getting mad, the homies retaliate and get rid
Speaker 1: of him. But ain't thenosous like because he went back
Speaker 1: to the hood, no one. He ain't supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the hood hanging out like that, which was true,
Speaker 1: And there was a lesson that I had to learn,
Speaker 1: and somebody like yourself or O G had to tell
Speaker 1: me like, don't bring your ass over here no more, period,
Speaker 1: and don't come over here no more. And I was
Speaker 1: in the nutshell that was just it. You still want
Speaker 1: to be associated because Ship, now you're just just two
Speaker 1: months ago we was all sitting in the living room
Speaker 1: together trying to scrape up money for motherfucking Thunderburton cool
Speaker 1: aid and filed our sacks and ship, you get me.
Speaker 1: And now six months later, I'm a movie screens and
Speaker 1: records and gold plaques and all that ship. And I'm
Speaker 1: still wanting to because I'm thinking that I don't know
Speaker 1: different than the motherfucker who was here six months ago.
Speaker 1: I'm no different, but it's the perception of it, straight up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think, man, that the system is kind of
Speaker 1: because we do a lot of stuff. I'm with that,
Speaker 1: I'm with self accountability and everything, but it's just really
Speaker 1: tripping me out, man, that you really can't make no mistakes,
Speaker 1: no more that they can. Really you can. You can
Speaker 1: make mistakes, but you got to know how to make
Speaker 1: the mistakes. And sometimes the mistakes are consequences exactly. But
Speaker 1: but check this out. We know when we go to jail,
Speaker 1: if you say something, they write that ship down. Ain't
Speaker 1: no computer. They don't send the motherfucker computer down right
Speaker 1: there and and just make it look at you. And
Speaker 1: then now they got all this bullshit. If you're sitting
Speaker 1: there talking, they're gonna write that ship down. But they
Speaker 1: write it down the way they want to write it down,
Speaker 1: the way they hear now, and this ship goes to
Speaker 1: a goddamn d A, and the d A say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like admitting that we got a caze here.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying is, how did the piencil
Speaker 1: work when the police pull us over in the car?
Speaker 1: Is how to picil work? How you write that chicket?
Speaker 1: Why I pulled him over? How fast you was going?
Speaker 1: A whole not so if you learn how compare attention
Speaker 1: to what's going on. You know, they the dictators, So
Speaker 1: you gotta be a certain kind of way. You be
Speaker 1: a dick. You're going to jail. Are they gonna take
Speaker 1: your car? If you're on the yes, sir, for just
Speaker 1: the ten fifteen minutes you you you encountered you right
Speaker 1: there with them. It all depends on how you act. Man.
Speaker 1: If you act like assh, they're gonna treat you like
Speaker 1: ass So if you say yes, sir, right, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what you know what I'm saying, they really ain't
Speaker 1: tripping off you because okay, this ain't that bad. Give
Speaker 1: you a break, you know what I'm saying. But we
Speaker 1: gotta learn how to deal with the system. You gotta
Speaker 1: play the game pretty much the way the game comes
Speaker 1: to you. You gotta learn how to play. If you
Speaker 1: don't understand it, you shouldn't be out in the motherfucking
Speaker 1: streets committing crimes. If you don't understand that ship a
Speaker 1: drive by, a drive by, the police is in the
Speaker 1: motherfucking car and looking for that fast car that speeding
Speaker 1: by the driving records is trying to get the away
Speaker 1: from the scene. Do five do the regular speeding every
Speaker 1: time they drive past you, nigs dug down, they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna drop past you, not trying to drop the change.
Speaker 1: If they see a woman in the motherfucker's car, they're
Speaker 1: gonna really keep going. So you gotta learn how to
Speaker 1: play the goddamn game. I'm serious, man, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you gotta. If you don't understand what you're doing, you're surrounded. Man.
Speaker 1: This is how you phone off and a lot of
Speaker 1: cats get called slipping. Yeah there was James McDonald wisdom.
Speaker 1: Hope you'll be taking notes so great, man. I don't
Speaker 1: like to say conspiracy, man, because I'm all for accountability. Man.
Speaker 1: I just think some of these situations are designed for
Speaker 1: certain people to fail. Man, there's just designed for certain
Speaker 1: people to fail. Because my kids, all of our kids
Speaker 1: grew up a different than we did, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, they were way different. I took mind to
Speaker 1: the suburbs, raising the suburbs, being active, made sure I
Speaker 1: was active in their life, you know, sports, everything else,
Speaker 1: you know, like that over the sun grade played from college,
Speaker 1: got another sign that's a semester away from getting his
Speaker 1: bactors already, then two semesters away, and then I got
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old daughter that got her own business.
Speaker 1: So I raised these kids just way different than I was.
Speaker 1: I told him. You know, my pops was telling me ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You know we got that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't no better, But I just raised my
Speaker 1: kids way different. Man. This um, but you've got the
Speaker 1: guy on the other side of the tracks, right, This
Speaker 1: dude is from father in jail. Mother got to go
Speaker 1: to works lea stand with his grandma. She taking care
Speaker 1: of other grand kids too, so she really watching them.
Speaker 1: He wind up growing up around and he grew up
Speaker 1: and that's all he knew. It's like he'd been dealt
Speaker 1: the bad here the beginning. But eventually he gets older
Speaker 1: and change his life, playing basketball, rapp and doing whatever
Speaker 1: it else you do. And the motherfucker comes back and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, back when you wasn't ship and didn't
Speaker 1: have it. You know what I'm saying, didn't have together,
Speaker 1: don't have opportunities, we go to funk all the good
Speaker 1: ships you did. We're going back here and go pump
Speaker 1: your ass because of that. That's what it sounds like
Speaker 1: to me. Do you think there's any way we can
Speaker 1: redefine these laws? Man and make him a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's broad Well, they're they're always challenged, you know, these
Speaker 1: because oftentimes the government does overreach, and that's for a reason.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make it right that they do overreach. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that you overreach is because you
Speaker 1: want to mitigate going to trial, So you charge somebody
Speaker 1: with something where you know he's gonna plead down and
Speaker 1: everybody avoids trial, and just you know, it's just the
Speaker 1: system is designed to operate more efficiently that way, UM
Speaker 1: and not saying it's right or wrong with this is
Speaker 1: just the way it is. So I don't you know
Speaker 1: but that these laws are always being challenged and sometimes
Speaker 1: successfully and sometimes unsuccessfully. So there, you know, you constantly
Speaker 1: have groups that will say, hey, we just think that
Speaker 1: this particular approach to doing things is wrong. It's challenged.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get ahead, sometimes you don't make any progress
Speaker 1: at all. But you know, the system is what the
Speaker 1: system is, and it it has to have these checks
Speaker 1: and balances, and obviously it always needs to be reevaluated
Speaker 1: to see if it can be improved. But I actually
Speaker 1: think it is usually improving. Then, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that again, like I think that the UM the way
Speaker 1: it's done today is better than the way it was
Speaker 1: done twenty years ago, and hopefully in twenty years from now,
Speaker 1: it's going to be even better than it is today.
Speaker 1: So it's time. Time just changes ship. So what guesses
Speaker 1: will always be some kind of collateral damas. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what you're saying. Yeah, I think so. I mean
Speaker 1: the system is organic. I don't know that it's necessarily
Speaker 1: like designed to the like what you might be suggesting.
Speaker 1: I think it's just organic. It's all these different components
Speaker 1: colliding and and people get hurt collaterally in those collisions,
Speaker 1: you know, but everybody, you know, if there is all kinds,
Speaker 1: if everybody is either community based or individually based, just
Speaker 1: holding each other accountable and holding each other up, most
Speaker 1: certainly that's going to improve the sentence. But then the
Speaker 1: system actually fail you too, because they know it's been
Speaker 1: some cases where they know you're not guilty, but just
Speaker 1: because it's election time, they booked your as. They give
Speaker 1: you all this time, They give you more time than
Speaker 1: they would give another for for marijuana. For half of these,
Speaker 1: I know, a lot of cash have morked out of
Speaker 1: that motherfucker with five years for murders, I agree that
Speaker 1: this system is very arbitrary, that it's not consistent across
Speaker 1: the board, and so that that is absolutely something that's
Speaker 1: it's you've seen that for a long time. Right, certain
Speaker 1: ship is designed. I feel certain mass are designed because
Speaker 1: they attract. And then it's it's gold. Because if if
Speaker 1: a white boy you were murdered, he got money, he's
Speaker 1: gonna beat that ship. But white boy murder, there's broke,
Speaker 1: you're going to prison. If that applies to I see,
Speaker 1: that's right. I don't. I don't necessarily necessarily draw the
Speaker 1: race distinction, but I definitely drive No, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: white a white If a white guy that's broke, and
Speaker 1: that's why they say black or white white. If if
Speaker 1: what they call poor trash white guy but commit a murder,
Speaker 1: he's going to jail for that murder. But if a
Speaker 1: white guy with money and that that means he could
Speaker 1: he could buy these lawyers and and spend all of
Speaker 1: this money. If he's spend a lot of money, you
Speaker 1: gotta be a chance of getting out of That applies
Speaker 1: to everybody, you know what doesn't do. If you have
Speaker 1: money and you can provide that first rate defense, then
Speaker 1: you're most likely going to get you come out. And
Speaker 1: that's another That's another thing that I think is is disturbing.
Speaker 1: It's disturbing that you can be easily guilty and that
Speaker 1: yet buy your freedom. Right. Well, I think I think
Speaker 1: everything is designed. Everything I watched Western movies, Every crime
Speaker 1: that that's committed today was committed in the eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: every crime, bank robberies, no cart, no horse steve. In
Speaker 1: these days, it's still in horse power. But I think,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, everybody's just got to really look
Speaker 1: at life for what it is and where you want
Speaker 1: to be. Do you want to exist in life or
Speaker 1: do you want to be a partner life? You want
Speaker 1: to I don't want to just exist. I want to
Speaker 1: be a part of life, and I want to be
Speaker 1: able to everything that that that I learned from my grandpather.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give it to my grandson, everything that
Speaker 1: I took from my father. My grandson and never see
Speaker 1: none of that. He ain't gonna have no part of that.
Speaker 1: And that's that's me knowing what's right, and that's knowing
Speaker 1: me knowing what's wrong and applying it and given And
Speaker 1: this is how I stopped him from want to be
Speaker 1: a met. This stops my grandson from want to be
Speaker 1: like his cus to cycling because you know, it breaks
Speaker 1: it and that's all we all we gotta do is
Speaker 1: apply itself, you know what I'm saying, Because we don't
Speaker 1: didn't wrong, I didn't did a lot of people. We've
Speaker 1: we've learned how to disassociate from what we thought was
Speaker 1: everything to growing up and figuring out this is what's everything.
Speaker 1: He family struck your and being able to show that
Speaker 1: you are a better person than the person that you
Speaker 1: thought fucked you up. You give me. So that's just
Speaker 1: in the nutshell for you and your kind of like
Speaker 1: E did did you you and pursued opportunities opposed to
Speaker 1: have an opportunity presented to you. Is that I started.
Speaker 1: I started rapping because I fell in love with rapping
Speaker 1: because I took a trip to Mississippi and was introduced
Speaker 1: to rap music. So when I came back, it kind
Speaker 1: of intrigued me because I was always one of the
Speaker 1: motherfucking kids at school who was intrigued with the other
Speaker 1: side of life. Even though I game bang, I used
Speaker 1: to watch soul Train. Even though I game bang, I
Speaker 1: used to read books and I just still go to
Speaker 1: school and get grades, even though I was banging like
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. I just had a MoMA at home who
Speaker 1: was from Gulfport, Mississippi, and with wood the ship out
Speaker 1: of my ass with a switch and the funding yall,
Speaker 1: and I want to give with this claimer too. If
Speaker 1: y'all heard some candy in the background, don't send me
Speaker 1: no look funked up as in boxes stuff. He didn't
Speaker 1: candy on the show that was and that wasn't candy.
Speaker 1: I got pleased with that ship, and I told you
Speaker 1: I wanted you to see this. This is the guy
Speaker 1: that that uh I went to Texas and have his brother,
Speaker 1: And this is why I said I do this just read.
Speaker 1: You ain't got to share it. If you don't want to,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna share. I'm gonna lead a brother's name out
Speaker 1: though for his privacy. Okay, what's up, big James, This
Speaker 1: is down, Dallas. I just wanted to reach out while
Speaker 1: I hacked you on my mind. I feel like you
Speaker 1: made all the difference with my brother. He seems to
Speaker 1: be on the up and we are closer than we've
Speaker 1: been in damn near a decade. Things changed for the
Speaker 1: better after you came in the picture, So I want
Speaker 1: to check in and make sure you're straight. I know
Speaker 1: from personal experience that the go to person most of
Speaker 1: the time don't have have nobody to go to. I'm
Speaker 1: here for you. And if it's if it's my means
Speaker 1: I got you straight up, it's probably millions out there
Speaker 1: like my brother needs you. So whatever it takes to
Speaker 1: get you through the day, you got meet and say support.
Speaker 1: Get back to me when you can. That's the cold stuff.
Speaker 1: Send it to you yesterday. And and what happened was
Speaker 1: it made me feel like what I'm doing is right
Speaker 1: just talking to people. No, that's just what I am.
Speaker 1: Somebody will I thought I hit something, but not bad.
Speaker 1: So so everything that we talked about, everything that we say,
Speaker 1: I took that the Dallas and I'm talking to him.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking at him. I'm talking to him, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling me, you know what's right and what's wrong.
Speaker 1: If anybody knew what's right and wrong, I do. You
Speaker 1: know you don't have to be a gang member. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You should want better. If you
Speaker 1: didn't want better, your brother wouldn't be getting at me.
Speaker 1: So I think it was worth getting in my card
Speaker 1: and going down at you. This guy. It's been six months,
Speaker 1: five months, and he's still on the right path. He's
Speaker 1: still he's doing good. He he working. Him and his
Speaker 1: brother is tight now when at first they won't even talk.
Speaker 1: So I really believe that we can reach each other.
Speaker 1: You just gotta be willing to listen, and you gotta
Speaker 1: be ready to change. If we're not ready to change,
Speaker 1: then we we fall on deaf ears. And if we
Speaker 1: don't understand that bullshit, then this will be for nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's incredible, and I want you to go a little
Speaker 1: bit more in depth about that story. These were somebody
Speaker 1: that's some listeners of the show that reached out. He
Speaker 1: was he was his brother was a listener, is a
Speaker 1: listener of the show. And he just hit me one
Speaker 1: day when I was selling the T shirts and put
Speaker 1: my number out there. So he called me and I
Speaker 1: asked me could I I got five minutes? I said,
Speaker 1: With all the texts and everything I get, I try
Speaker 1: to answer all of them and I and I take
Speaker 1: all calls. So, yeah, brother, what what's going on? So
Speaker 1: you explained to me about as a brother. So you know,
Speaker 1: at that time, his brother was going through some you know,
Speaker 1: some dangerous ship and probably wouldn't have been here. So
Speaker 1: I said, well, wait, yeah, and give me how that is.
Speaker 1: So long story short. He gets on the phone and
Speaker 1: he said, Mom, I don't go by the name, but yeah, games,
Speaker 1: so what I'm saying here, but what's going on with you?
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to him for about an hour or so,
Speaker 1: and and it was a little tears here and there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, bro, but it's all good. But
Speaker 1: I've been through the same ship you going through. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I didn't have We don't
Speaker 1: have to react just to get a reaction. So after that,
Speaker 1: I said, about a month later, the brother called me again.
Speaker 1: Man he had shootouts and he did, Man, I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my brother. So I told him, don't
Speaker 1: say no more. Don't tell him I'm coming if I
Speaker 1: do my show Wednesday and getting on the freeway after
Speaker 1: we've closed our show me and when he got on
Speaker 1: the freeway and I went straight out there to him.
Speaker 1: And when I got out there, I met up with
Speaker 1: the brother and then we was waiting for his brother
Speaker 1: Jay to come. So we're sitting back waiting, so they
Speaker 1: all conjugating and then I walked out to the store
Speaker 1: and walked up to him. The first thing he was like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: you did all of this for you come to Texas
Speaker 1: for me. You come to Texas for me, man, I
Speaker 1: come to Texas for your life. I come to Texas
Speaker 1: to help you. I come to Texas for your brother.
Speaker 1: Your brother like you. And he gave his brother look
Speaker 1: started crying and everybody got misty out of I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like a touchy situation there. And we went
Speaker 1: and set out in eight and we just we just
Speaker 1: like broke bread like like you never had before. And
Speaker 1: here he is talking to a good dude that he
Speaker 1: listened to on the ready on the TV, saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: you say all the right good ship, but here I
Speaker 1: am in your face telling you all the right good ship.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling him ship that he had n't done
Speaker 1: because I've been there. You couldn't have done this without
Speaker 1: going this way, you know what I'm saying. And after
Speaker 1: we love Texas, I kind of let him marinade and
Speaker 1: let him, you know, let the brothers get together and
Speaker 1: inform their relationship without me being in a way. I
Speaker 1: called down then, and how your brother dog? He good man?
Speaker 1: We're good. Everything great. Okay. So I get this text
Speaker 1: yesterday and I'm reading it. My sister started crying, like, brother,
Speaker 1: you really like that's that one you say, That's that
Speaker 1: one you saved. So it makes me feel good because
Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't ship it. I can still say
Speaker 1: it today. I ain't ship I'm just starting. I'm just
Speaker 1: breaking the ice, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: got a lot of proven I got a lot of
Speaker 1: ship to do. But I don't mind because I did
Speaker 1: a lot of bullshit, But I don't mind picking my
Speaker 1: way through it and doing this here and helping, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if I can get another one,
Speaker 1: and another one like me can change you, I can
Speaker 1: die him all. I'm good. Yes, you know that you're
Speaker 1: just giving it back. Man. I think that's really important
Speaker 1: because I think man like, like you know Greg was
Speaker 1: saying with the reco Act, he was saying that it's
Speaker 1: just it's therapist, the most perfect thing we got right now,
Speaker 1: right despite the shortcomings. Man, I just think that we
Speaker 1: really got to get um go back to the days
Speaker 1: of listening to cats like James, and really, if you're
Speaker 1: listening to what he's telling you. He's telling you how
Speaker 1: not to get caught. U. Well, we gotta go. We
Speaker 1: gotta get to the point where we gotta start loving
Speaker 1: and instead of hating each other. And we hate each
Speaker 1: other for the smallest ship. Uh, pinky ring, Go get that,
Speaker 1: go to work and get it yourself. There's amount of
Speaker 1: cats out there hate what you got. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of us out there just envy for the wrong reasons,
Speaker 1: you know. And if we stopped that boys ship and
Speaker 1: start congratulating and stop snatching motherfucker's when they're coming up.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. If you made a million
Speaker 1: dollars selling dude, I made that, don't come and bringing
Speaker 1: my house and kill me for it. We gotta learn
Speaker 1: how to build ourselves. That's a man. That's a man.
Speaker 1: It wasn't too fifty years old. I realized I was
Speaker 1: a man, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of guys out here of age
Speaker 1: like me. We ain't ain't we ain't men. We ain't
Speaker 1: acting like black men. We all we we we quit
Speaker 1: to accuse. Fuck accusing somebody get our did get it
Speaker 1: and get it the way you you you see you
Speaker 1: can hold it, you can keep it. Let's not be
Speaker 1: envious of motherfucker's that's all. That's that's and that's the
Speaker 1: that's that's better for everybody. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You want to be a grown motherfucker, You want to
Speaker 1: be an adult, you want to show lessons to the youth. Whatever.
Speaker 1: You just got to learn how to not be envious
Speaker 1: to the next man and then then fund the color whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just we gotta learn to just stop being envious
Speaker 1: of a nigger who don't got or got more. Period.
Speaker 1: That's just it the nutshell. Yeah, man, that's if you
Speaker 1: don't know how to get Yeah, that's it. Get up
Speaker 1: and get out and get something period. Man. You know what,
Speaker 1: I guess some ship we would never get to the
Speaker 1: bottom up. Man. It just seemed just just really strange
Speaker 1: to me. Man, But that's another episode. The gains the
Speaker 1: chronicles do stuff on that, you stuff on that reco
Speaker 1: or they going right back to it if it is
Speaker 1: right back, just it really sucks me up that you
Speaker 1: could do something wrong six years ago and it just
Speaker 1: so happens these mothersfuck You can kill the motherfucker twenty
Speaker 1: years ago if they fid down today, y'all asked going
Speaker 1: to mothers. You know what, the man, what's the easy
Speaker 1: soul for this? As you say, okay, depending upon what
Speaker 1: he's doing now at this stage of the case, depending
Speaker 1: we do, you can't. You shouldn't be able to go
Speaker 1: back no more than two years. Ain't gonna do that
Speaker 1: ship you know they do that sometimes, what the case
Speaker 1: is or something like that, you give more slapping the
Speaker 1: motherfucking back. And what if it's if it's what if
Speaker 1: it's yours and your people that were affected by that?
Speaker 1: What if somebody had suffered on your end? Now? Are
Speaker 1: you willing to let that guy off the hook in
Speaker 1: two years? Man? You know what? You know that motherfucker
Speaker 1: gotta go and and and everybody got to think about it.
Speaker 1: If it don't happen to you, don't matter. But if
Speaker 1: it happens to you, now I'm affected by but a
Speaker 1: serious seriousness. When I say only go back two to
Speaker 1: three years, I'm talking. I ain't talking about murder. I
Speaker 1: ain't talking about you could kill two people, got youn't
Speaker 1: got a grace period. I'm being good now. I changed myself.
Speaker 1: I've been out of prison for thirty years, thirty one years.
Speaker 1: If I killed somebody. You don't think they've been leading
Speaker 1: with me. Okay, well you've been out of prison thirty
Speaker 1: one years. Yeah, goddamn, they be not said this country,
Speaker 1: you got a pass. It's all the same thing, man,
Speaker 1: But there is you know, there's they do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it's different on the charge exactly exactly. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker successful. Now he ain't selling drugs on the corner anymore.
Speaker 1: He's got business because I'm he and all that. So
Speaker 1: when you're initially started investigation, okay, he's a personal interest
Speaker 1: right here. But then you see over time you should
Speaker 1: have to say, okay, raise they do depend on the crime,
Speaker 1: like their statute of limitations on things. There's certain crimes
Speaker 1: with robbery that you know after a certain nine years
Speaker 1: he can't charge you with it. It's five years ago
Speaker 1: that even though they still got their way of doing it,
Speaker 1: like go Jen, you found not guilty of murder, but
Speaker 1: they find you, uh, they check everything you got because
Speaker 1: they say, yeah they turned the one just follow a
Speaker 1: Simvil case on and yeah you had something to do
Speaker 1: with the fucking murder. But if I got found not
Speaker 1: guilty of it, and it's gonna award that because he's
Speaker 1: the I'm pretty sure that most of them sit up
Speaker 1: and look like, yeah, this motherfucker done it, but in
Speaker 1: the criminal case it wasn't found not But you can't
Speaker 1: take your personal feelings in the courting room. You can't.
Speaker 1: I believe that my damn self. But it happens nine
Speaker 1: nine and ten at the time. You give me, mother
Speaker 1: fucker walk right in the court and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well he was found not guilty, but we're gonna we
Speaker 1: feel he had something to do with it. And in
Speaker 1: a civil case, all they give a funk about is
Speaker 1: if you can prove or the reasonable doubt that this
Speaker 1: motherfucker had something to do with it, get a motherfucker's
Speaker 1: fifty million. That's how we're gonna break them. We're gonna
Speaker 1: hurt him like that, fucking because and most of the
Speaker 1: times when you see cases like that and a motherfucker
Speaker 1: on some high profile murdership and they get found not guilty,
Speaker 1: mother fucker's just come back and find a simple case. Sometimes,
Speaker 1: my fucker to find a civil case before the criminal case,
Speaker 1: Like just give me the bread and I shut the
Speaker 1: funk out. Big change, a little, big change, gotta take
Speaker 1: this trip, man James on his way, Get up, get
Speaker 1: up out of here. We got a lot of exciting
Speaker 1: stuff happening, man. Um, you know, shout out to the
Speaker 1: folks in Australia that's been hitting us up. Shut up
Speaker 1: to our people and Dallas we got were about to
Speaker 1: hit this road the first of the year. Man. Hopefully
Speaker 1: this um pandemic that we in start to clear up
Speaker 1: so the stuff can be big, you know, maximize. But
Speaker 1: we're going to road and now we're looking forward to
Speaker 1: that man, and and it's just crazy everybody reaching out.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate the support we've been getting on the show. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's been incredible so far, you know. So they're
Speaker 1: really inspiring though. Right there, James, that letter you got,
Speaker 1: that's awesome man. I'm really happy for you. And it
Speaker 1: made me feel good. Thank you. That's the resonates man.
Speaker 1: That makes me feel good. And now we're talking to
Speaker 1: these guys in Texas. I hope we can go to
Speaker 1: Texas with the guys that we got on the line
Speaker 1: to go down there and and say for the stop
Speaker 1: to this ship. You know what I'm saying, y'all gotta
Speaker 1: stop just killing each other. And I hope they list
Speaker 1: so y'all be tuned in on Mondays, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about it. Um. I hope everybody get on board
Speaker 1: with that. And and if you want to love each
Speaker 1: other to save each other, it's act like we can
Speaker 1: talk to each other and get along with each other
Speaker 1: and everything will be good. Go subscribe to The Gangster
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