1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: When I right, y'all all across the USC Compton lots. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Thank to l A from on the California the Valley. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: it rail on your side of your town, you tune 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: into Gangster Chronicles. Gangster the Goals are gonna tell you 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: how we go. If I lie my nose will girl 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: but the truth Gangster Chronic Goals. This is not your 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: average show. You're now tuned into the Rail m c A, 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Dick James and Mixed Fields from the streets. Hello, where 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: you act? This is o G Gangster Granny and the 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles Podcast is back in effect. Get ready for 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: some of that G ship. We might welcome everyone to 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: another episode the Gangster Chronicles Podcast. Not with my homeboys. 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 1: You know, make sure you hit that I heart app, 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: download the I app subscribed to the show. All my 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: iPhone users. Hit that purple MICUs on your phone. You 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: know those lights that you hang up in your backyard, 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: the purple lights. You know the fly hit him? Is 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: that the flies keep the flies from coming in bees 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: and stuff. The black male is like one of those 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: bees man and the light is the penitentiary system. Well, 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: you gotta look at it like this. It ain't just 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: with with black males, just with everything and everybody. This 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: world is designed is a circle. Everything is repeats itself. 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: All the robberies, murders, everything repeats itself, especially in the neighborhood. 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Everything is a cycle, and it just repeats itself. Killings, rape, robbery, homies, 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: fighting homies, homies killing homies. This ship has been going 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: on from the beginning of time. Yeah, a week at 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: our I guess second rapper man, you know, casting over 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: two times by the FBI man you know, fist saying 32 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: he's a member of a violent street game, street game 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: rather than um, you know, one of eighteen people charged 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: with drug trafficking and reggaeteer in New York City and upstate. 35 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of stuff going on. And when 36 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: we got Friends of the show, Grade Katian here tonight 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: detect the grade katiing just here to kind of shie 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: me in on some of this stuff. There's a lot. 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. Why these guys keep getting targeted? Man, 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: how are they getting themselves in these situations? You go ahead, 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: go up man. Um. Honestly, Um, I think it's like, 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: once again, it's the product of the environment and it's 43 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: the way we walk or the life that's put ahead 44 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: of us whatever. I mean. You know, a lot of 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: us join gangs, you know, feeling that we want to 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: be associated, or we want to protect the neighborhood or whatever. 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: But we tend to forget when we turn or we 48 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: try to turn into regular men. The pitfalls of gang 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: banging kind of follows us, you know, everywhere we go. 50 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: And that's your face of James. It's a lot of them. 51 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of niggas who still want to be associated. Yeah, 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: but but if you make it out of the neighborhood. 53 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Everybody said they want to make it out the neighborhood, 54 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: and everybody said they want to be able to take 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: care of their kids and their mama's. Let's get their 56 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: mama's out the hood. But our biggest problem is going 57 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: back to the hood too, because we want the homies 58 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: to say, all you're looking out for us, or that's 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the big homie, or is this and that if you 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: make it out the hood, you get out the hood. 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: I think every man that that that that walked this life, 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: should have their own way of trying to get out, 63 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And if you get out 64 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: and the homies ain't there to say, man, you did that. 65 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We're proud of you are 66 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: the motherfucker, don't come to the hood no more. You 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: see the difference. They main't your friends. So we gotta 68 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: understand who's our friends and who's not. I mean, if 69 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: the homies want to see me doing good and better, 70 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna tell me not to come around there no more. Man, 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: you're doing good. Don't funk with these dudes and this 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: and that, which I get a lot of that. I 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: get a lot of that. But you know, we we 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: we we go back to the hood and want to 75 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: help somebody, help the homies, and then we we want 76 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: the hood to shine. And the whole time you're trying 77 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: to make the hood shine, you're digging. You're you're digging 78 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: a dish for yourself, because sooner or later, somebody out 79 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: of that crowd is gonna say, after he get busted, 80 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: where y'all get this, how y'all hood comes from here 81 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: to there? The homies? Now you in jail because you 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: help the homies, and you know, it's different ways to 83 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: help the homies. One one way to help the homies 84 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: is getting the jit jobs. You know what I'm saying, 85 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: If if if they want to get up the ass 86 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: that do a ninety five, put money in the neighborhood 87 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: where they can come and go to work, put on 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: uniform and make money the legit way. But no, everybody 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: feeled it doping and and the pistols ain't doing them 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: becausing a bigger problem than we had before. So it's 91 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: it's different ways to do that. You know what they're 92 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: saying is um you know what it was an indictment 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: that was unsealed on Tuesday name in eight teams expected 94 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: gang members who have been charged with racketeering, murdering, narcotics, firearms, 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: and other fraud offenses. You know, as in the indictment, 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: they you know, a legend that he was a member 97 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: of the Guerrilla Stone gang, violence, trafficing, narcotics, and even 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: engaged in fraud by exploiting benefits programs, you know them 99 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: cards that everybody had running around when it was getting 100 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: there getting a little you know, bring it off of 101 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and now that everybody you know, catching cases behind that 102 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: silly ship, I think, UM, when you start looking at 103 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure Greg can probably attest to this, UM, 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: when you start looking at served dudes as far as 105 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: game members, UM, that stretch that line of of you know, 106 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: broken laws, you can attach to a ship. I mean 107 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: because let's face a lot of niggas from the neighborhoods, 108 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: the dry bys and killed and all that type of ship. 109 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: So to attest all that bullshit, I'm pretty sure that 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: when they start looking at certain motherfucker's, if you want 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: to bring up Rico as you know what I'm saying, 112 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: They're just gonna look at the long heathline of history 113 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 1: of the neighborhood. You get me like, oh, yeah, they've 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: been killing since the seventies and so and soul soul 115 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: drugs and we know he sold and he was big 116 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: time and these motherfucker's over here. So I'll just look 117 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: at it as when you go, yeah, we can attach 118 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Rico to a lot of motherfucker's if they game members, 119 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: if they neighborhoods have been known to being some of 120 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: that old tory, your ship. Absolutely. But let me ask 121 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: you this, and this is a question like UM for 122 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: YouTube gride I guess would be for you. Um, you 123 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: have a guy he's named in this reco indictment. Let's 124 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: say he just a member of the game and they 125 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: had sometimes you know, you've got members of games. Some 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: of them got jobs, some of them are selling dope, 127 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: something got everybody not active. Let's say he's like a 128 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: member of this game. He may go around and kick 129 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: it here and there, hang out with him, at him 130 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: coming to the club, with him, going videos, but he's 131 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: doing his rap thing. Could he possibly have been named 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: in that reco active they hadn't caught him in doing 133 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: it the wrong? No, No, that's not the way RICO works. 134 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: So you've got things that like you have things you've 135 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: heard of like gang injunctions where they'll target a gag 136 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: and they're doing a junction where they just put a 137 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of you know, energy into um even minor crimes, 138 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: but with racketeering it's a completely different. Things. You have 139 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: to have predicate acts, and every charge in RICO has 140 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: to have or predicate act, and there's only so many 141 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: predicate acts. Some some crimes don't qualify as predict cad acts. 142 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: But things like you know, obviously um extortion, money laundering, 143 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: murder um, using public utilities to commit crimes, you know, 144 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: talking on the phone, you're making boat deals, that type 145 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: of ship. All those things blend in because Rico was 146 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: actually originally designed to go after the mob right back 147 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: in the day. And then they started in a late 148 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: night probably the late eighties, early nineties, they started to 149 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: doing a gangs, Mexican gangs, Black gangs, motorcycle clubs. And 150 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: they're like, man, Rico works just as effectively here. And 151 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: but to answer your question, you know, there has to 152 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: you would have to commit a particular crime that's on 153 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: a list of crimes that fall under the umbrella of Rico. Okay, 154 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: he got caught doing something. He got caught something either 155 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: on the phone or you know, transferring money, anything like 156 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: that would have qualified and means, and it's disattributed to 157 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: because at this point they're already investigating the game. Absolutely. Yeah. 158 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: It all starts out with a proposal to do a 159 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: racketeering act on a group of people. How long do 160 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: they sit on a case like that, I don't I 161 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: don't know what do they watch? They could be from 162 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: a day or year. They were doing a racketearing act 163 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: on Death Row from late nineties three to ninety four, 164 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: all the way on the stuff till and just sitting 165 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: back and taking taking notes and just watching and watching 166 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: connecting dots. So they can go for years. And what 167 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: another kind of you know, not disturbing, but another kind 168 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: of concerning thing about it is there can be a 169 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: long stretch of time between crimes. That's what I'm saying. 170 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: It's like, let's say this guy, hypothetically, six years ago, 171 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: he gets another dude in the neighborhood. You know, he's 172 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: probably rhymes on the side or whatever, but he get 173 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: his break, Um tax Stone start messing with him. Did 174 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: he get you know, picked up by rock Nation. So 175 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: now he changed his life. He's starting to do shows 176 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: and get show money. You know, you tend to move 177 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: out to the neighborhood when you start getting a little somebody, 178 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: you know, you upgrade. You can't stay in the same spot, 179 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: you know. So you're telling me that this could have 180 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: been him. Dude call him on the phone like, man, 181 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: I need a ah some some um. What's that they 182 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: smoke out there? Haze? I need some haze, you know 183 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: what I mean? And he go serve his homeboy and 184 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: eph weed. But he just happened to be listened to 185 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: because he's part of this whole thing. Now that he's 186 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: missed a big time rapp and they don't give a say, well, 187 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: this dude, your soul's weed. They probably want him now 188 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: because you're bigger. Yeah, I'm saying because that makes the 189 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: case look juicier. Well, that's what I'm saying. So they 190 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: could paint him as this dude that's funneling all this 191 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: dope and money for this, and that they really try 192 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: to throw motherfucker's in the grease, don't they. Well that 193 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: to the whole idea is to get as much leverage 194 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: as you can so that when you collect all of 195 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: these people, you have so much leverage on them all 196 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: because they're threatened with this idea of racketeering enhanced crimes. 197 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: And now you're like, oh, ship, all I did was 198 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: this what you per seen as a minor thing. But 199 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: now you're looking at a lot of exposure and that's 200 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna force you to cooperate. Plus oh so plus, if 201 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: they get him, he probably got a little bit more 202 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: going on than the other cats that's in the indictment 203 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: with him, So they probably could grab him just in 204 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: hopes that he like man I got a career going 205 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: on and all this ship happening. Man, Oh, it's gonna 206 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: be easy to flip him. You don't want to lose 207 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: the ship. But would he throw him with this regal wacons? 208 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: You see, he's on the run. Now, if you were 209 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: advising him, would you tell him to turn himself in him? Yeah, 210 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: you can only run so far. He's gonna get caught. 211 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,239 Speaker 1: And when it comes. Now, when he gets caught, obviously 212 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna work against him because it's gonna show when 213 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: he goes to his his here may maybe you're just 214 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out right now. Yeah, that's I 215 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: think he's getting together to get the lawyer together, you 216 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, seeing what is the actual charges 217 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: that they're trying to bring against him? You know what 218 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you can probably you can probably say 219 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: that's happening too, because I wouldn't. That wouldn't be a 220 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: smart move. Yeah, because this guy, you know, casting is 221 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: he's been in prison before. I mean, he's a he's 222 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: a street he's a street catch soon so he know 223 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: he know how to play it. You know, he's he's uh, 224 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, got the reputation of being somebody that's authentic 225 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: and official, you know what I'm saying. I mean, he 226 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: still was associated to his neighborhood, no telling what his 227 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: plans were, you know what I'm saying, because he was 228 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: getting you know, he rap career, was being a little successful. 229 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, he was up there. My man was moving 230 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: units and all that ship videos and ship and all that. So, um, 231 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: we would just hope that he would be making the 232 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: decision to just let me get my ship in order 233 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: before I have to go do it. That's what's going down. Yeah, 234 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: I just don't, like I said, it seemed like it's 235 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: just would you say, Greg, you've being from law enforcement, 236 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: actually law enforcement, do you think that this whole system 237 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: is just designs? May be asking a rhetorical question, Um, 238 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: is it designed for certain people to fail? I don't know. 239 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: I think you get you know, people, as you guys 240 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: have alluded to. You know, you get caught up in it. 241 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're caught up and you you don't need to 242 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: know how deep you're in it until all of a 243 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: sudden you get hit with a you know, you know, 244 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: somebody's kicking in your door and you realize, like, what 245 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the fuck? Two years ago I was on the phone 246 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: and you know, selling a couple of pounds of weed. 247 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: The next thing you know, I'm wrapped up in this 248 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: racketeerian thing. And you know, so I think a lot 249 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: of people just don't realize, um, how uh you know, 250 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: precarious it can be. And and and then we gotta 251 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: look at it. When we out there committing our crimes, 252 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: are doing what we do to get our money. We 253 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: don't we're not paying attention to the consequences. Who might 254 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: be who and we're doing it. So at the end 255 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: of the day, when the when the ship happens, we 256 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: already know we We were in the thick of the ship. 257 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a trap. I think we 258 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: put ourselves into travel, you know what I'm saying, because 259 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: you they're not just coming out there okay today, We're 260 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna set whoop whoop and get them and and make 261 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: them by the dope from us. You know what I'm saying. 262 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: I think we were already out there in the streets 263 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: doing what we're doing. So we a lot of this 264 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: ship that we do is on us, and we gotta 265 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: be accountable for the ship we do. You know what 266 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's some of us has got all away 267 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: with a lot of ship, and I'm sitting here and 268 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: I can honestly testify to that. And maybe I got 269 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: away with a lot of ship because certain things in 270 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: the hood I didn't like, or do you know what 271 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying? I was a straight fucking gang banger. I 272 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't even want to. And I couldn't see 273 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: my self snatching purses from what the wind that wasn't 274 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: game banging. I didn't see myself braving a female that 275 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: wasn't gag banging. My whole life was the opposite society. 276 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: This is what I thought it was supposed to be, 277 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So any time I got 278 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: trapped and caught into that, I didn't have a choice 279 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: but to sit in jail and go to court behind 280 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: this ship. Whether whether I win, lost or did some 281 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: time or whatever, it was my actions the consequences. It's me, 282 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: really what I'm trying to say. And that's for all 283 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: of us across the board. You know what I'm saying. 284 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: We out to know him, we're doing rome, But at 285 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, why are we complaining about 286 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: how we get down? And I put myself in that 287 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: same trick back as everybody out there doing what they're 288 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: doing and get caught up and ship like this. You 289 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I had a choice to make, 290 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: Like with death Row, I had a choice to either 291 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: rock and roll with the dumb ship. Y'all going over 292 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: there and do your thing. I'm gonna go over here. 293 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get the shop. I ain't got time 294 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: for that. I ain't going against the grain. I ain't 295 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: doing this other dumb ship. It just wasn't me and 296 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: and those cats that felt the same way I felt. 297 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: We all got choices every everything we do. Every time 298 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: I put my pants on and put my band down 299 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: in my pocket, I knew inside and I knew when 300 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: I put my pistol on the hill it was I 301 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: might run into gangs and Jackson, I might run into sos. 302 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm a day out there, 303 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: and Lingwood was out there deep. But I knew the consequences. 304 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: But I still had my pistol. Catch me with that motherfucker. 305 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't don't go outside. So those chances that we took, 306 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: now getting caught with a pistol, and all I said, 307 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: I think let's go to jail, said there and deal 308 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, exactly, you know, I'm ship. I'm dealing 309 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: with the ship fox. Fine terms. I'm just saying, we 310 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: all have choices. Everything I know, Like you said, it 311 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: was the choices you knew when you stepped off the 312 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: porch and you put that that motherfucker pistol on your 313 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: head that Lynnwood shares Mike Jack and motherfucker. But that's 314 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: the chance I'm gonna take. Same with me. I rolled 315 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: around with a motherfucker three eighty with gonna pop off 316 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: vic dash that did I know that motherfucking the sheriffs 317 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: or Compton p d was gonna be rolling through as 318 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: soon as they see your motherfucker. They don't get a 319 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: fun I'm a motherfucking eight folk. Cut listen, sh what'sh 320 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the breakdown once you get caught. But now, when you 321 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: guys were doing that, and you know they're consequences of 322 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: those that specific action, But what are you thinking in 323 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: terms of like this is maybe part of a much 324 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: bigger picture. Well, I just get caught with a pistol, 325 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: but now I'm wrapped up in some kind of organized 326 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: crime type of prosecution. Think you don't think like that 327 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: thinking about what I thought was. Motherfucker, you better have 328 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: a heat rolling through these motherfucking streaks or you don't 329 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: get caught. Just like if I passed, I went out 330 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: and put in work, and then I give that pistol 331 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: to the homey. That pistol got something wing, but he 332 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: ain't knowing he's thinking of homie. Ain't gonna do me 333 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: like that. Now, a whole lot of us get caught 334 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: up like that, you know what I'm saying, just because 335 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: that pistol got some money. Now you're sitting in jail 336 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: like God damn it. If I speak on this food, 337 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: I can't do time in yere. I can't go back 338 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: to the hood. So you take gotta take that goddamn wrap, 339 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then at the end 340 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: of the day, motherfucker's ain't taking care of you, none 341 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: of that ship. But these are the consequences that you 342 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: take when you get up and you put that pistol 343 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: in your hand. Are you getting that car and do 344 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: what you do? Are you out there on the block 345 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: selling dope. When we was on the block selling dope, 346 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: the police used to pull up and and be doing this. 347 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: Let me here, then let me see and put the 348 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: step of cup on your edge. That ain't good enough, buddy. 349 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: We out of here, and and motherfucker's breaking round something 350 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: get away. Some don't. But being on the block, trying 351 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: to sell up to what we think is feeding out 352 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: families or kids are or so I can go get 353 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: them nice tennis shoes or get the rims from our car. 354 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: We ain't thinking about the ship that the people that's 355 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: consuming them drugs, how the homie mommy is sucked up, 356 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: but we're still selling it to it. We ain't thinking 357 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: about none of that. So then we get busted because 358 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: they've been watching the block. So when they hit the house, 359 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: we go to jail. The breakdown of that is, Man, 360 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't in there, and they I was outside and 361 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: they took me in the house. Oh I was over there, 362 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: but I wanted to selling no jobs. Now they've been 363 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: sitting on your ass for a month, two months, a year. 364 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: You can't get out of it. That's how the fans 365 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: do it. They sit back and they make sure they 366 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: got you. You can't go in and sit out and 367 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: then not that ship at all. You can't So what 368 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: that's what what I'm saying is and and I'm I'm 369 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: using me as any example, so nobody can say. I'm 370 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: saying they the choices I made got me where I went. 371 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: The choices I made something, the pritison, the choices I 372 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: made hurt a whole lot of people. You know what 373 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, The choices I made hurt my mom's. You 374 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is everybody got to be accountable 375 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: for self. If we don't understand self and and don't 376 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: understand what the we're doing in the consequences of how 377 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: we do it, then we're gonna talk about this dude, 378 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: death road, diggie. We're gonna talk about all these kids 379 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: that get caught up, that gets money at a certain 380 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: point in their life and then still want to go 381 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: back to the bullshit. You make it. You made it, Yeah, 382 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to come back. And that's the disturbing 383 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: thing about this to me is it seems like it's 384 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: always the rappers man, not wonderful times. And I feel conflicted. 385 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: We're feeling this way because you know, I work in 386 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: the music and this tree, and you know I love 387 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: against the rap music like everybody else, But I always 388 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: saw its entertainment, and I think maybe it's part I 389 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: knew a lot of the artists and I was like, man, 390 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: he's really a nice dude, but he can just you know, 391 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: you knew how to talk about the honies around them 392 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: real good. Don't necessarily mean you're phonny, but he knew 393 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: how to convey what was going on in this community, 394 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Exactly? Do you think they're 395 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: purposely and this may be me reaching or whatever. I'm 396 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of a conspiracy theorist. Um do you think that 397 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: it was because it seems like black music rap music 398 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: just kind of start And I ain't gonna say because 399 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: the gangster rap, because it was still even the stuff 400 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: when they was talking about, you know, public gating, he 401 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: was gangster rapp if you think about it, you know 402 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, exactly, So it wasn't just like 403 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: West Coast gangster rap. But did you notice it was 404 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: a difference between you always had substance in your music, 405 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: and it was always a reality, you know, it was 406 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: always based in reality. On some songs you got the 407 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: worst the end of the stick, right, But you had 408 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: these dudes that was just so over the top of 409 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the banging man that got geographic for a minute. Remember 410 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: that period in Games to Rap where it just got 411 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: crazy for a minute. Um, and it's like the positive 412 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: music just went way left right. Do you ever think 413 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: it's like possible they just constructed all that ship man 414 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: to flood us with this imagery. The artists are their labels, 415 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: just like I'm talking about the labels man, and it 416 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: may be kind of going left field, right, just think 417 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: about this label is gonna explore what they can explore 418 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, like people don't know interscope 419 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: is no but listen, I know, but listen, James, what 420 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, let me finish, let me let me land. 421 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: You look at General Electric. They own stock and prisons, right, 422 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: they own prisons. They own privately owned prisons. Now they 423 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: actually own inn Scope records, you know n Scope records, 424 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: they own them too. If they own prisons, would it 425 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: be who them? Really? They out this thing and they 426 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: have a motherfucker's sing about kom By y'all and having 427 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Will Smith making songs and all these happens. The lucky 428 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: motherfucker's if they can make money off rappers, football players, uh, 429 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: black entertainers, if they can make money off of basketball players. 430 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: What's the difference they see a profit and merchandise. And 431 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: black people as well as others have skills. And it's 432 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: unfortunate that we don't own our own ship to to 433 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: put our ship out there, like like death Rowing. Just say, 434 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: if Chill would have just been one businessman, have been 435 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: a businessman, death Row would have been up here by 436 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying. But everybody want to 437 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: play Bugsy Malone at a certain point in their life. 438 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Everybody want to be um see known or whatever. But 439 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: just like you can't blame Priority Records for me making 440 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: a record and going back and they put it out there. 441 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: But it's me doing it this meet for trying to 442 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: be something I ain't and then getting out there acting 443 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: like I'm a real thug. Sooner later you get tested, 444 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: you find out chaining the thug. Next thing you gotta 445 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: do to prove you see, I see and I get 446 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: all that. And it's not me necessarily blaming Priority Records 447 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: or no record company. Right, But these people are invested 448 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: into the prison industrial complex. They own private prisons, and 449 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: they'll let you put this album out there. If you 450 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: was talking about just straight mayhem killing them yes, but 451 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: check this out. There have been incidents where people have 452 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: said stuff that that that has been necessarily violent nature, 453 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: but it went against the grain. They get their albums 454 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: pulled off the shelf. So it seems like they stand 455 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: for certain things and let other ship pass because I'm 456 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let you turn 457 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: around and say some ship like like some ship that 458 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: we go against on our platform. That's when we're gonna 459 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: motherfucker nip you in the bud. We're gonna kill your contract, 460 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna shelve your project, whatever you because at the 461 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: end of the day, we, like James said, we don't 462 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: own ship, okay, And a motherfucker dangler contracting your motherfucking 463 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: face for a million dollars you think of broakeass motherfucker 464 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: from Compton or Lone Beach is gonna sit down and 465 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: be like m m no. They're gonna be like, well 466 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: you want me to sign, give me my check, and 467 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna exploit it and they're gonna go invest in 468 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: prisons and whoever they want to as president and all 469 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: that motherfucking ship, and it don't matter to them. We 470 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: we look at numbers. It's a profit to us. So 471 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: if you want to go rap about shooting up the 472 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: nigga down the street and pulling the drive by and 473 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: all that, and then I'm checking numbers and I'm going, 474 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: motherfucker want to buy that ship? Why not? Shouldn't I 475 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: have a piece of it? Just like you? Just man, 476 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: mother funer going to prisons every day? Right, why the 477 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: fund should not get a piece of that. They're going 478 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: to prison every day. Who else is gonna do it? You? Right? 479 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: That's why the people start building private prisons. Fuck that. 480 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: Let me you did it on that game, y'all sending 481 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: water a ton of thousand niggas the prison a year. 482 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: I need to get in on that game. It's so smart. Profit. 483 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money in that. The county jail. 484 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money, uh housing innation, the county jail, 485 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: especially the story. You know what I'm saying. The prices 486 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: of the noodles and all that shop to shop shop 487 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: to you, no more like a bitch used to send 488 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: you a packet. You had to go through that something 489 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: like this billion floyd the fucking making money and then 490 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: fucking rap record and you gotta buy your cup of 491 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: noodles from the nigger who puts you in jail. I 492 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: for kind of ship is there? My bitch can't even 493 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: send me no draws or socks, no more. I gotta 494 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: buy them straight from the motherfucker who housing me. And 495 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know for beating put it out there, 496 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: but I heard, no, that's some cold And I'm sitting 497 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: there thinking about myself, like, man, I know, putting something 498 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: like no, you can't, you girl, go to the swap 499 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: me and get your socks for five ninety nine. Stay right, 500 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: here's no more. You gotta's people putting fifty and sty 501 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: fine college for for what six hours? We goddamn right. 502 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I used to call my mom gonna collect like a motherfucker. 503 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: Why don't fucking build up? So I ain't don't know 504 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: brand they're making money off of it? Why not? I mean, 505 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: we ain't doing it. Hell no. The only thing we 506 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: do what it's going to jail. We're spending the money, 507 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: give me a contract and makes some fucking soaps and 508 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: ship with all that ship, it all falls down on us. 509 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: Let us stop bitching and complaining about how our lives are. 510 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: My life was the way it was because I chose 511 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: it that way. I didn't see it no other way. 512 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: So I lived the way I thought was best for 513 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: me and that and it got me through, you know, 514 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: understanding a lot of ship. But then as I got older, damn, 515 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: I realized what the funk am I doing, stitting on 516 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: this fucking corner with the same old cats name, doing ship. 517 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: And then when when I lost my brother, man, you're 518 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: doing all of this for nothing. All of this ship 519 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: is for nothing. Everything that I believed in was for nothing. 520 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: And we gotta start thinking like that at a younger age, 521 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: because you the only thing we're gonna do is get you. 522 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: I've been shot four times, they got them still here, 523 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: but I did more than than than my share. So 524 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: for your brother to lose your brother represent the same ship, 525 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: and then to to lose his life and the same ship, 526 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: Fuck you niggas. When you'll talk about loyal to you 527 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: fucking niggas, when you talk about friendship, it's no good. 528 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: Everything I did was for nothing, for nothing, so you 529 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: gotta look at it like that. But it was my 530 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: choice to live the way I did the way it was. 531 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: But I had a choice to make. Either I give 532 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: it to the system or take my kids and start 533 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: doing my thing and be there for my grandkids. If 534 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm not there for my grandkids, how can I protect 535 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: my family doing life in prison. It's a waste of time. 536 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: So I had to make a choice, and we all 537 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: got to make choices right now. If if I'm making 538 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: out of the hood and no need to go back, 539 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't have a reason to go back. It's certain 540 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: cats over there that I deal with. Those are the 541 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: ones I'm looking at. You can't take two hundred niggas 542 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: from the neighborhood and think they all won't be right. 543 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: You put them in your house, They're gonna steal from you. 544 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: Because everybody is looking for that moment. They ain't looking 545 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: for for longevity life. They're looking for that moment. And 546 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: that's what's happening with all of these wrapper cats and 547 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: all of these cats out here today. They yet to 548 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: understand what life is about, and they think this trick 549 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: bag that we're in, they think this is the only way. 550 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: And then when you get people such as myself trying 551 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: to tell them that this is not the only way. 552 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: It's we have options. So let's stop blaming other motherfucking people. 553 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: Let's stop saying the white people holding me down. I'm 554 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: not a motherfucking slave. I can do what I wanna do. 555 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: I get up eating ship. I'm a slave in prison. 556 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: I want the programming, and motherfucker, you ain't got a choice. 557 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: Are You're gonna stay in a in a motherfucking hole. 558 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna stay in the sale. So at some point 559 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to program and that motherfucker, so 560 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: learn how to do it here on the streets. Learn 561 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: Half of us don't even have kids. The homies just 562 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: going to prison, back and forth, back and forth, don't 563 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: even have families, don't have kids, don't have grandkids. And 564 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: then they come home and ship doesn't change. They don't 565 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: know how to use God damn should mean Facebook? How 566 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: do you do that? Like me? I don't do all 567 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: that money and ship. I'd rather stay plain and simple 568 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: where I understand it. When you know, cats come home 569 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: thinking that you're in the program, but you can't because 570 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: it's hard to get out of prison that they're doing 571 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: fourteen years, seventeen years. We don't coming home to the 572 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: system was already against you because you can't get a 573 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: job and work. Now they're changing that. At first, you 574 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: can't come home and go straight to work and live 575 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: like a citizen. So it's gonna keep you down. So yeah, 576 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: the system has a lot to do with us repeating history, 577 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: going back to prison. Uh, I gotta go back to 578 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: the block. It sell dope because every nney days they 579 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: fired me because they my record pop up and they 580 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: fire me. This is what was happening to me. So 581 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: you can't do security work because as soon as they 582 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: find out that noneing, they check, Oh you gotta go. 583 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: You you fail to tell us this and on your application, 584 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: and if you're honest, they don't call you back. So yeah, 585 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: we got a lot of that. We have to come 586 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: back to the hood. We have to go back to 587 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: the block. And then you got to catch that that 588 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: that make it and make their way out thinking they're 589 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: doing good by putting dope and guns in the hood. No, 590 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: open up something positive and then tell homies to come 591 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: work and that and and if you want to work 592 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: and get the funk out of the streets, if he 593 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: want to work for his money, because you ain't gonna 594 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: sunk off no check money like you funk off drug money. 595 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: You're you're gonna really, you're gonna really spend it the 596 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: right way and then it gives you something. It gives 597 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: you something here saying I've worked for this, you know 598 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So I ain't feeling squander it off 599 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: on on the bs or kicking it with the homies 600 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: and making sure everybody getting loaded. You're gonna take your 601 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: money and you're gonna you're gonna do what you gotta 602 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: do with it. But that drug free money, you splash 603 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: that ship. So if if any rapper out there today 604 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: made it and want to go back to the hood 605 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: and say he did good by the hood, open up 606 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: a business. If it's if it's gardening and you buy 607 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: two vans and put all the equipment you need to 608 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: cut grass, that's a business. Everybody got along. And if 609 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: you got these guys out here working and they're making 610 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: their money, don't be cheap with them and make them 611 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: seem they we're working for SETI five dollars a week. 612 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna work for this food nor more. Don't 613 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: do your people like that. You gotta be one hunting 614 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: with your people, and you're only giving them that so 615 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: they can have stability. Now now I feel different by myself. 616 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't ain't gonna going any with the only thing 617 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: I gotta go to work. And that's how we changed 618 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: that ship. That's how we stopped all of this reco ship. 619 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: That's how we stopped the dumb ship. You ain't gotta 620 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: put yourself and that life no more. Yeah. And the 621 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: thing about this reco ship that I don't like, the 622 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: Greg pointed out, there's some ship you could have did 623 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: eight years ago. Yeah, especially if they leave in the 624 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: case and and and they steadily monitored you. Like I said, 625 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: if they building the case, you couldn't did some ship 626 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: five years ago. But which is true, because like I said, 627 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: you gotta attest to the something to the ship. I mean, 628 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: I guess it's you know, uh, when you when you're 629 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: a young man, you're coming up, you join the gang 630 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. You try to prove yourself or want to 631 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 1: be alone because everybody you go to school with, you know, elementary, 632 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: the grade school, you're hanging out, you know that make 633 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: sure you want to just join it. I started banging 634 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: because you know, I didn't have my father in the 635 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: house type of ship, you know, and I went to 636 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: school with niggas. We hung every day. You know. One 637 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: of the homies got jumped. I felt like we all 638 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: had to be a part of this, this system that 639 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: was gang banging. You know, I didn't go out to 640 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 1: to to sell the drugs or do that type of ship. 641 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: All I gave a funk about was banging for the neighborhood. 642 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: So as I grew and I started making something positive, saying, Okay, 643 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be this rapper, I'm gonna tell stories about 644 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: what I've been through, what I saw in the neighborhood, 645 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: and you start getting a positive aspect. But did I 646 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: still want to go back to the neighborhood. Yeah? I did. 647 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: I still wanted to even though I'm living fucking an 648 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: hour away and I'm driving different cars and living in 649 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: a different house. I wanted to go to Compton every 650 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: day and hanging the neighborhood because it was something that 651 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: I wanted to show niggas that I didn't I wasn't 652 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: an outsider so to speak. I don't look at myself 653 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: as being somebody different. But that's that's what could have 654 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: got you killed, because exactly if she ate Kent. No, 655 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: it's on everybody's mind. Every time you go to the hood. 656 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: You might have that one cat that said man that 657 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: came doing it for me. I'm killing my food all 658 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: day and not the chicken pushots at you are, and 659 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: the homies getting mad, the homies retaliate and get rid 660 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: of him. But ain't thenosous like because he went back 661 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: to the hood, no one. He ain't supposed to be 662 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: in the hood hanging out like that, which was true, 663 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: And there was a lesson that I had to learn, 664 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: and somebody like yourself or O G had to tell 665 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: me like, don't bring your ass over here no more, period, 666 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: and don't come over here no more. And I was 667 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: in the nutshell that was just it. You still want 668 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: to be associated because Ship, now you're just just two 669 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: months ago we was all sitting in the living room 670 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: together trying to scrape up money for motherfucking Thunderburton cool 671 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: aid and filed our sacks and ship, you get me. 672 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: And now six months later, I'm a movie screens and 673 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: records and gold plaques and all that ship. And I'm 674 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: still wanting to because I'm thinking that I don't know 675 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: different than the motherfucker who was here six months ago. 676 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm no different, but it's the perception of it, straight up. Yeah, 677 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: I just think, man, that the system is kind of 678 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: because we do a lot of stuff. I'm with that, 679 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: I'm with self accountability and everything, but it's just really 680 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: tripping me out, man, that you really can't make no mistakes, 681 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: no more that they can. Really you can. You can 682 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: make mistakes, but you got to know how to make 683 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: the mistakes. And sometimes the mistakes are consequences exactly. But 684 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: but check this out. We know when we go to jail, 685 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: if you say something, they write that ship down. Ain't 686 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: no computer. They don't send the motherfucker computer down right 687 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: there and and just make it look at you. And 688 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: then now they got all this bullshit. If you're sitting 689 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: there talking, they're gonna write that ship down. But they 690 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: write it down the way they want to write it down, 691 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: the way they hear now, and this ship goes to 692 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: a goddamn d A, and the d A say, okay, well, 693 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of like admitting that we got a caze here. 694 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying is, how did the piencil 695 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: work when the police pull us over in the car? 696 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: Is how to picil work? How you write that chicket? 697 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: Why I pulled him over? How fast you was going? 698 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: A whole not so if you learn how compare attention 699 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: to what's going on. You know, they the dictators, So 700 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: you gotta be a certain kind of way. You be 701 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: a dick. You're going to jail. Are they gonna take 702 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: your car? If you're on the yes, sir, for just 703 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: the ten fifteen minutes you you you encountered you right 704 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: there with them. It all depends on how you act. Man. 705 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: If you act like assh, they're gonna treat you like 706 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: ass So if you say yes, sir, right, I didn't 707 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: know what you know what I'm saying, they really ain't 708 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: tripping off you because okay, this ain't that bad. Give 709 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: you a break, you know what I'm saying. But we 710 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: gotta learn how to deal with the system. You gotta 711 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: play the game pretty much the way the game comes 712 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: to you. You gotta learn how to play. If you 713 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 1: don't understand it, you shouldn't be out in the motherfucking 714 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: streets committing crimes. If you don't understand that ship a 715 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: drive by, a drive by, the police is in the 716 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: motherfucking car and looking for that fast car that speeding 717 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: by the driving records is trying to get the away 718 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: from the scene. Do five do the regular speeding every 719 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: time they drive past you, nigs dug down, they're gonna 720 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna drop past you, not trying to drop the change. 721 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: If they see a woman in the motherfucker's car, they're 722 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: gonna really keep going. So you gotta learn how to 723 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: play the goddamn game. I'm serious, man, Yeah, I mean 724 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: you gotta. If you don't understand what you're doing, you're surrounded. Man. 725 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: This is how you phone off and a lot of 726 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: cats get called slipping. Yeah there was James McDonald wisdom. 727 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: Hope you'll be taking notes so great, man. I don't 728 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: like to say conspiracy, man, because I'm all for accountability. Man. 729 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: I just think some of these situations are designed for 730 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: certain people to fail. Man, there's just designed for certain 731 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: people to fail. Because my kids, all of our kids 732 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: grew up a different than we did, you know what 733 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they were way different. I took mind to 734 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: the suburbs, raising the suburbs, being active, made sure I 735 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: was active in their life, you know, sports, everything else, 736 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, like that over the sun grade played from college, 737 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: got another sign that's a semester away from getting his 738 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: bactors already, then two semesters away, and then I got 739 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: a sixteen year old daughter that got her own business. 740 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: So I raised these kids just way different than I was. 741 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: I told him. You know, my pops was telling me ship. 742 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You know we got that. 743 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't no better, But I just raised my 744 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: kids way different. Man. This um, but you've got the 745 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: guy on the other side of the tracks, right, This 746 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: dude is from father in jail. Mother got to go 747 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: to works lea stand with his grandma. She taking care 748 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: of other grand kids too, so she really watching them. 749 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: He wind up growing up around and he grew up 750 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: and that's all he knew. It's like he'd been dealt 751 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 1: the bad here the beginning. But eventually he gets older 752 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: and change his life, playing basketball, rapp and doing whatever 753 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: it else you do. And the motherfucker comes back and say, 754 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: you know what, back when you wasn't ship and didn't 755 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: have it. You know what I'm saying, didn't have together, 756 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: don't have opportunities, we go to funk all the good 757 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: ships you did. We're going back here and go pump 758 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: your ass because of that. That's what it sounds like 759 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: to me. Do you think there's any way we can 760 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: redefine these laws? Man and make him a little bit. 761 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: Let's broad Well, they're they're always challenged, you know, these 762 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: because oftentimes the government does overreach, and that's for a reason. 763 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't make it right that they do overreach. You know. 764 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that you overreach is because you 765 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: want to mitigate going to trial, So you charge somebody 766 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: with something where you know he's gonna plead down and 767 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: everybody avoids trial, and just you know, it's just the 768 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: system is designed to operate more efficiently that way, UM 769 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: and not saying it's right or wrong with this is 770 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: just the way it is. So I don't you know 771 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: but that these laws are always being challenged and sometimes 772 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: successfully and sometimes unsuccessfully. So there, you know, you constantly 773 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: have groups that will say, hey, we just think that 774 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: this particular approach to doing things is wrong. It's challenged. 775 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes you get ahead, sometimes you don't make any progress 776 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: at all. But you know, the system is what the 777 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: system is, and it it has to have these checks 778 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: and balances, and obviously it always needs to be reevaluated 779 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: to see if it can be improved. But I actually 780 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: think it is usually improving. Then, you know, I think 781 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: that again, like I think that the UM the way 782 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: it's done today is better than the way it was 783 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: done twenty years ago, and hopefully in twenty years from now, 784 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be even better than it is today. 785 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: So it's time. Time just changes ship. So what guesses 786 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: will always be some kind of collateral damas. That's kind 787 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: of what you're saying. Yeah, I think so. I mean 788 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: the system is organic. I don't know that it's necessarily 789 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: like designed to the like what you might be suggesting. 790 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: I think it's just organic. It's all these different components 791 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: colliding and and people get hurt collaterally in those collisions, 792 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: you know, but everybody, you know, if there is all kinds, 793 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: if everybody is either community based or individually based, just 794 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: holding each other accountable and holding each other up, most 795 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: certainly that's going to improve the sentence. But then the 796 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: system actually fail you too, because they know it's been 797 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: some cases where they know you're not guilty, but just 798 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: because it's election time, they booked your as. They give 799 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: you all this time, They give you more time than 800 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: they would give another for for marijuana. For half of these, 801 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: I know, a lot of cash have morked out of 802 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: that motherfucker with five years for murders, I agree that 803 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: this system is very arbitrary, that it's not consistent across 804 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: the board, and so that that is absolutely something that's 805 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: it's you've seen that for a long time. Right, certain 806 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: ship is designed. I feel certain mass are designed because 807 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: they attract. And then it's it's gold. Because if if 808 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: a white boy you were murdered, he got money, he's 809 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: gonna beat that ship. But white boy murder, there's broke, 810 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: you're going to prison. If that applies to I see, 811 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: that's right. I don't. I don't necessarily necessarily draw the 812 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: race distinction, but I definitely drive No, I'm talking about 813 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: white a white If a white guy that's broke, and 814 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: that's why they say black or white white. If if 815 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: what they call poor trash white guy but commit a murder, 816 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: he's going to jail for that murder. But if a 817 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: white guy with money and that that means he could 818 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: he could buy these lawyers and and spend all of 819 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: this money. If he's spend a lot of money, you 820 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: gotta be a chance of getting out of That applies 821 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: to everybody, you know what doesn't do. If you have 822 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: money and you can provide that first rate defense, then 823 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: you're most likely going to get you come out. And 824 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: that's another That's another thing that I think is is disturbing. 825 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: It's disturbing that you can be easily guilty and that 826 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: yet buy your freedom. Right. Well, I think I think 827 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: everything is designed. Everything I watched Western movies, Every crime 828 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: that that's committed today was committed in the eighteen hundreds, 829 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 1: every crime, bank robberies, no cart, no horse steve. In 830 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: these days, it's still in horse power. But I think, 831 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: I think, you know, everybody's just got to really look 832 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: at life for what it is and where you want 833 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: to be. Do you want to exist in life or 834 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: do you want to be a partner life? You want 835 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: to I don't want to just exist. I want to 836 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: be a part of life, and I want to be 837 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: able to everything that that that I learned from my grandpather. 838 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give it to my grandson, everything that 839 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: I took from my father. My grandson and never see 840 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: none of that. He ain't gonna have no part of that. 841 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,959 Speaker 1: And that's that's me knowing what's right, and that's knowing 842 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: me knowing what's wrong and applying it and given And 843 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: this is how I stopped him from want to be 844 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: a met. This stops my grandson from want to be 845 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: like his cus to cycling because you know, it breaks 846 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: it and that's all we all we gotta do is 847 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: apply itself, you know what I'm saying, Because we don't 848 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: didn't wrong, I didn't did a lot of people. We've 849 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: we've learned how to disassociate from what we thought was 850 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: everything to growing up and figuring out this is what's everything. 851 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: He family struck your and being able to show that 852 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: you are a better person than the person that you 853 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: thought fucked you up. You give me. So that's just 854 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: in the nutshell for you and your kind of like 855 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: E did did you you and pursued opportunities opposed to 856 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: have an opportunity presented to you. Is that I started. 857 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: I started rapping because I fell in love with rapping 858 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: because I took a trip to Mississippi and was introduced 859 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: to rap music. So when I came back, it kind 860 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: of intrigued me because I was always one of the 861 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: motherfucking kids at school who was intrigued with the other 862 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: side of life. Even though I game bang, I used 863 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: to watch soul Train. Even though I game bang, I 864 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: used to read books and I just still go to 865 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: school and get grades, even though I was banging like 866 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: a motherfucker. I just had a MoMA at home who 867 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: was from Gulfport, Mississippi, and with wood the ship out 868 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: of my ass with a switch and the funding yall, 869 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: and I want to give with this claimer too. If 870 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: y'all heard some candy in the background, don't send me 871 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: no look funked up as in boxes stuff. He didn't 872 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: candy on the show that was and that wasn't candy. 873 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: I got pleased with that ship, and I told you 874 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: I wanted you to see this. This is the guy 875 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: that that uh I went to Texas and have his brother, 876 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: And this is why I said I do this just read. 877 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: You ain't got to share it. If you don't want to, 878 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna share. I'm gonna lead a brother's name out 879 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: though for his privacy. Okay, what's up, big James, This 880 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: is down, Dallas. I just wanted to reach out while 881 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: I hacked you on my mind. I feel like you 882 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: made all the difference with my brother. He seems to 883 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: be on the up and we are closer than we've 884 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: been in damn near a decade. Things changed for the 885 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: better after you came in the picture, So I want 886 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 1: to check in and make sure you're straight. I know 887 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 1: from personal experience that the go to person most of 888 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: the time don't have have nobody to go to. I'm 889 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: here for you. And if it's if it's my means 890 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: I got you straight up, it's probably millions out there 891 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: like my brother needs you. So whatever it takes to 892 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 1: get you through the day, you got meet and say support. 893 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: Get back to me when you can. That's the cold stuff. 894 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: Send it to you yesterday. And and what happened was 895 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: it made me feel like what I'm doing is right 896 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: just talking to people. No, that's just what I am. 897 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: Somebody will I thought I hit something, but not bad. 898 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 1: So so everything that we talked about, everything that we say, 899 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: I took that the Dallas and I'm talking to him. 900 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm not talking at him. I'm talking to him, and 901 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling me, you know what's right and what's wrong. 902 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: If anybody knew what's right and wrong, I do. You 903 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 1: know you don't have to be a gang member. You 904 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You should want better. If you 905 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: didn't want better, your brother wouldn't be getting at me. 906 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: So I think it was worth getting in my card 907 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: and going down at you. This guy. It's been six months, 908 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 1: five months, and he's still on the right path. He's 909 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: still he's doing good. He he working. Him and his 910 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: brother is tight now when at first they won't even talk. 911 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: So I really believe that we can reach each other. 912 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: You just gotta be willing to listen, and you gotta 913 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: be ready to change. If we're not ready to change, 914 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: then we we fall on deaf ears. And if we 915 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: don't understand that bullshit, then this will be for nothing. Yeah, 916 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: that's incredible, and I want you to go a little 917 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: bit more in depth about that story. These were somebody 918 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: that's some listeners of the show that reached out. He 919 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 1: was he was his brother was a listener, is a 920 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: listener of the show. And he just hit me one 921 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: day when I was selling the T shirts and put 922 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: my number out there. So he called me and I 923 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 1: asked me could I I got five minutes? I said, 924 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: With all the texts and everything I get, I try 925 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: to answer all of them and I and I take 926 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: all calls. So, yeah, brother, what what's going on? So 927 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: you explained to me about as a brother. So you know, 928 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: at that time, his brother was going through some you know, 929 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: some dangerous ship and probably wouldn't have been here. So 930 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: I said, well, wait, yeah, and give me how that is. 931 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: So long story short. He gets on the phone and 932 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: he said, Mom, I don't go by the name, but yeah, games, 933 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: so what I'm saying here, but what's going on with you? 934 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: So I'm talking to him for about an hour or so, 935 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: and and it was a little tears here and there, 936 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, bro, but it's all good. But 937 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 1: I've been through the same ship you going through. You 938 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I didn't have We don't 939 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: have to react just to get a reaction. So after that, 940 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: I said, about a month later, the brother called me again. 941 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: Man he had shootouts and he did, Man, I think 942 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my brother. So I told him, don't 943 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: say no more. Don't tell him I'm coming if I 944 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: do my show Wednesday and getting on the freeway after 945 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: we've closed our show me and when he got on 946 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: the freeway and I went straight out there to him. 947 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: And when I got out there, I met up with 948 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: the brother and then we was waiting for his brother 949 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: Jay to come. So we're sitting back waiting, so they 950 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: all conjugating and then I walked out to the store 951 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: and walked up to him. The first thing he was like, God, damn, 952 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: you did all of this for you come to Texas 953 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: for me. You come to Texas for me, man, I 954 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: come to Texas for your life. I come to Texas 955 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 1: to help you. I come to Texas for your brother. 956 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: Your brother like you. And he gave his brother look 957 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: started crying and everybody got misty out of I mean, 958 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: it was like a touchy situation there. And we went 959 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: and set out in eight and we just we just 960 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: like broke bread like like you never had before. And 961 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: here he is talking to a good dude that he 962 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 1: listened to on the ready on the TV, saying, Okay, 963 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: you say all the right good ship, but here I 964 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 1: am in your face telling you all the right good ship. 965 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: So I'm telling him ship that he had n't done 966 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: because I've been there. You couldn't have done this without 967 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: going this way, you know what I'm saying. And after 968 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: we love Texas, I kind of let him marinade and 969 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: let him, you know, let the brothers get together and 970 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: inform their relationship without me being in a way. I 971 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: called down then, and how your brother dog? He good man? 972 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 1: We're good. Everything great. Okay. So I get this text 973 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,479 Speaker 1: yesterday and I'm reading it. My sister started crying, like, brother, 974 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: you really like that's that one you say, That's that 975 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: one you saved. So it makes me feel good because 976 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't ship it. I can still say 977 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: it today. I ain't ship I'm just starting. I'm just 978 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: breaking the ice, you know what I'm saying. So I 979 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of proven I got a lot of 980 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: ship to do. But I don't mind because I did 981 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: a lot of bullshit, But I don't mind picking my 982 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: way through it and doing this here and helping, you 983 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if I can get another one, 984 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: and another one like me can change you, I can 985 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: die him all. I'm good. Yes, you know that you're 986 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: just giving it back. Man. I think that's really important 987 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: because I think man like, like you know Greg was 988 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: saying with the reco Act, he was saying that it's 989 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: just it's therapist, the most perfect thing we got right now, 990 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: right despite the shortcomings. Man, I just think that we 991 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: really got to get um go back to the days 992 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: of listening to cats like James, and really, if you're 993 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: listening to what he's telling you. He's telling you how 994 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: not to get caught. U. Well, we gotta go. We 995 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: gotta get to the point where we gotta start loving 996 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: and instead of hating each other. And we hate each 997 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: other for the smallest ship. Uh, pinky ring, Go get that, 998 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: go to work and get it yourself. There's amount of 999 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: cats out there hate what you got. There's a lot 1000 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: of us out there just envy for the wrong reasons, 1001 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 1: you know. And if we stopped that boys ship and 1002 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: start congratulating and stop snatching motherfucker's when they're coming up. 1003 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. If you made a million 1004 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: dollars selling dude, I made that, don't come and bringing 1005 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: my house and kill me for it. We gotta learn 1006 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: how to build ourselves. That's a man. That's a man. 1007 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: It wasn't too fifty years old. I realized I was 1008 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: a man, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, 1009 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: we got a lot of guys out here of age 1010 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: like me. We ain't ain't we ain't men. We ain't 1011 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: acting like black men. We all we we we quit 1012 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: to accuse. Fuck accusing somebody get our did get it 1013 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: and get it the way you you you see you 1014 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: can hold it, you can keep it. Let's not be 1015 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: envious of motherfucker's that's all. That's that's and that's the 1016 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,959 Speaker 1: that's that's better for everybody. You know what I'm saying. 1017 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 1: You want to be a grown motherfucker, You want to 1018 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: be an adult, you want to show lessons to the youth. Whatever. 1019 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: You just got to learn how to not be envious 1020 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: to the next man and then then fund the color whatever. 1021 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: It's just we gotta learn to just stop being envious 1022 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: of a nigger who don't got or got more. Period. 1023 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: That's just it the nutshell. Yeah, man, that's if you 1024 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: don't know how to get Yeah, that's it. Get up 1025 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: and get out and get something period. Man. You know what, 1026 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: I guess some ship we would never get to the 1027 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: bottom up. Man. It just seemed just just really strange 1028 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: to me. Man, But that's another episode. The gains the 1029 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: chronicles do stuff on that, you stuff on that reco 1030 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: or they going right back to it if it is 1031 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: right back, just it really sucks me up that you 1032 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: could do something wrong six years ago and it just 1033 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: so happens these mothersfuck You can kill the motherfucker twenty 1034 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: years ago if they fid down today, y'all asked going 1035 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,919 Speaker 1: to mothers. You know what, the man, what's the easy 1036 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: soul for this? As you say, okay, depending upon what 1037 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: he's doing now at this stage of the case, depending 1038 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: we do, you can't. You shouldn't be able to go 1039 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: back no more than two years. Ain't gonna do that 1040 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 1: ship you know they do that sometimes, what the case 1041 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: is or something like that, you give more slapping the 1042 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: motherfucking back. And what if it's if it's what if 1043 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: it's yours and your people that were affected by that? 1044 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: What if somebody had suffered on your end? Now? Are 1045 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: you willing to let that guy off the hook in 1046 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: two years? Man? You know what? You know that motherfucker 1047 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: gotta go and and and everybody got to think about it. 1048 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: If it don't happen to you, don't matter. But if 1049 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 1: it happens to you, now I'm affected by but a 1050 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: serious seriousness. When I say only go back two to 1051 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: three years, I'm talking. I ain't talking about murder. I 1052 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: ain't talking about you could kill two people, got youn't 1053 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: got a grace period. I'm being good now. I changed myself. 1054 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: I've been out of prison for thirty years, thirty one years. 1055 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: If I killed somebody. You don't think they've been leading 1056 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: with me. Okay, well you've been out of prison thirty 1057 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: one years. Yeah, goddamn, they be not said this country, 1058 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: you got a pass. It's all the same thing, man, 1059 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: But there is you know, there's they do. I mean, 1060 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: I get it's different on the charge exactly exactly. This 1061 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: motherfucker successful. Now he ain't selling drugs on the corner anymore. 1062 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: He's got business because I'm he and all that. So 1063 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: when you're initially started investigation, okay, he's a personal interest 1064 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: right here. But then you see over time you should 1065 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: have to say, okay, raise they do depend on the crime, 1066 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: like their statute of limitations on things. There's certain crimes 1067 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: with robbery that you know after a certain nine years 1068 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: he can't charge you with it. It's five years ago 1069 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: that even though they still got their way of doing it, 1070 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: like go Jen, you found not guilty of murder, but 1071 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: they find you, uh, they check everything you got because 1072 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: they say, yeah they turned the one just follow a 1073 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Simvil case on and yeah you had something to do 1074 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: with the fucking murder. But if I got found not 1075 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: guilty of it, and it's gonna award that because he's 1076 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: the I'm pretty sure that most of them sit up 1077 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: and look like, yeah, this motherfucker done it, but in 1078 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: the criminal case it wasn't found not But you can't 1079 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: take your personal feelings in the courting room. You can't. 1080 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I believe that my damn self. But it happens nine 1081 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: nine and ten at the time. You give me, mother 1082 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: fucker walk right in the court and be like, yeah, 1083 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: well he was found not guilty, but we're gonna we 1084 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: feel he had something to do with it. And in 1085 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 1: a civil case, all they give a funk about is 1086 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: if you can prove or the reasonable doubt that this 1087 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 1: motherfucker had something to do with it, get a motherfucker's 1088 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: fifty million. That's how we're gonna break them. We're gonna 1089 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: hurt him like that, fucking because and most of the 1090 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: times when you see cases like that and a motherfucker 1091 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: on some high profile murdership and they get found not guilty, 1092 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: mother fucker's just come back and find a simple case. Sometimes, 1093 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: my fucker to find a civil case before the criminal case, 1094 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Like just give me the bread and I shut the 1095 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: funk out. Big change, a little, big change, gotta take 1096 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: this trip, man James on his way, Get up, get 1097 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: up out of here. We got a lot of exciting 1098 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: stuff happening, man. Um, you know, shout out to the 1099 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 1: folks in Australia that's been hitting us up. Shut up 1100 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: to our people and Dallas we got were about to 1101 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 1: hit this road the first of the year. Man. Hopefully 1102 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: this um pandemic that we in start to clear up 1103 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: so the stuff can be big, you know, maximize. But 1104 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: we're going to road and now we're looking forward to 1105 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: that man, and and it's just crazy everybody reaching out. 1106 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: We really appreciate the support we've been getting on the show. Um, 1107 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: it's it's been incredible so far, you know. So they're 1108 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: really inspiring though. Right there, James, that letter you got, 1109 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: that's awesome man. I'm really happy for you. And it 1110 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: made me feel good. Thank you. That's the resonates man. 1111 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: That makes me feel good. And now we're talking to 1112 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: these guys in Texas. I hope we can go to 1113 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: Texas with the guys that we got on the line 1114 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: to go down there and and say for the stop 1115 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 1: to this ship. You know what I'm saying, y'all gotta 1116 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: stop just killing each other. And I hope they list 1117 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: so y'all be tuned in on Mondays, we're gonna be 1118 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: talking about it. Um. I hope everybody get on board 1119 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: with that. And and if you want to love each 1120 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: other to save each other, it's act like we can 1121 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: talk to each other and get along with each other 1122 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: and everything will be good. Go subscribe to The Gangster 1123 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Chronicles if you gotta. If you're out of don't user. 1124 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Hit that purple microphone that's on the front of your phone. 1125 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Stop inbox. You ask me how I find it. It's 1126 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: that purple. Is that purple microphone on your phone? Click 1127 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: that find against the Chronicles podcast, subscribe, leave a comment, 1128 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: and man, we out here. Jill