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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hunt's Giants Giants,

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Speaker 1: give Me some Job, part of the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Let's roll.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I am John Schmelt, joined by the one and only

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Speaker 2: Sean O'Hara.

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Speaker 3: We just got off the practice field, second day of

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Speaker 3: joint practices at Giants and Lions and Seawan a lot

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Speaker 3: of good.

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Speaker 2: Action during plays and maybe even a little in between plays. Two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were some good football and there was a

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Speaker 1: little bit of UFC kind of combined in between plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm still a little damp. It was a nice so

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Speaker 1: when you get those hot dog days of summer and

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Speaker 1: camp days, that's kind of what it was. But definitely

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Speaker 1: it was very feisty at times, which look, every coach

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Speaker 1: wants his players to be safe and be smart. But

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Speaker 1: I thought when you look at the Detroit Lions, they've

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Speaker 1: been one of the most physical teams in the NFL

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and I think for the

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Speaker 1: Giants to kind of have a little pushback and look,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to take anything from anybody, and we

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Speaker 1: don't mean.

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Speaker 3: Literal pushback, literal fight. But they were out there and

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Speaker 3: they were like, we're not gonna be bullied.

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Speaker 1: Run back down from anybody. I think that you like

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Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, if you're Joe Shane, if you're

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable, you like seeing our guys. Hey, look they're

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Speaker 1: not backing down from anybody. There were some stuff that

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Speaker 1: was just ridiculous, and there's no place for football, for

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Speaker 1: punches being thrown and guys that weren't helmets, plus a

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Speaker 1: guardian pad on like what are you doing? You know

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Speaker 1: we're not boxers. Don't don't be that idiot. Don't be

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Speaker 1: that meathead that's out there. But I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I thought Detroit was typically the instigators with a lot

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Speaker 1: of that stuff, which was shocking because I know Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 1: like he preaches toughness, but do it in between the whistles.

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Speaker 1: And last year we had a joint practice with them.

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Speaker 1: We had no zero issues whatsoever. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just not everybody can handle being in Jersey.

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Speaker 2: I guess, well, it's been hot, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you know whenever guys get hot out there,

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Speaker 3: they get annoyed, they get and that those things tend

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Speaker 2: But let's look at to play on the field. Me

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Speaker 2: and you watch that.

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Speaker 3: Let's start up front. Me and you watch the online

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Speaker 3: d line one on ones together both days. And look,

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Speaker 3: we've seen in past iterations of this show, and well,

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Speaker 3: those drills don't go well for the Giants. It is

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons why the franchise have struggled over

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Speaker 3: the last ten years. They don't Eagles and Cowboys every year.

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Speaker 3: They get dominated front again and again and again. Well

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Speaker 3: against a really good offensive line that the Lions have

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Speaker 3: and a pretty good defensive front as well. You know,

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Speaker 3: the Giants didn't dominate, but the Lions didn't dominate either.

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Speaker 3: This was a good back and forth. The good players

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Speaker 3: won other guys one other times. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: pretty even back and forth, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: With you, Yeah, I had cautious expectations with this because

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Speaker 1: of how physical they are upfront, and they have some

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Speaker 1: really good pass rushers. I thought Aiden Hutchinson, you know,

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Speaker 1: how our tackles held up against him and Marcus Davenport

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Speaker 1: as well, he's a big, long arm guy. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was very even and it was very it was

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Speaker 1: one sided by any means. And I thought from an

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Speaker 1: more consistent than we have been in that one drill.

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Speaker 1: Like look, the one on one O Lione drill, it

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Speaker 1: in game day. And I thought the Giants really held

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Speaker 3: Both him and Penney still look different though those are

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Speaker 3: the two guys really beat those guys much over the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could tell those two are kind of in

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Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, we wouldn't watch one

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Speaker 1: guys getting beat right now. There were not guys were

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Speaker 1: weren't any lookout blocks, which is good and that's obviously improvement.

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Speaker 1: And then that just goes to show where this offensive

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Speaker 1: I think that their technique has really helped that as well.

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Speaker 1: So I think Carmon Briscilla has done a really good job.

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Speaker 2: And what way technique was.

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Speaker 1: Technique wise, I feel like when you with it's because

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Speaker 1: and he was a guardless and he played guard, and

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Speaker 1: really well. He's a veteran, he's got good technique. I

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Speaker 1: and it just kind of looked like his hands were

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Speaker 1: He's been a very consistent player. Jermaine iluminaor obviously all

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Speaker 1: e's have been on him, because look, we're counting on

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Speaker 1: and until he earns a spot.

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Speaker 2: That he kept getting us. I mean, he had the

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Speaker 1: He and Hutchison were, you know. I think Hudgerson followed

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Speaker 1: And so what great work for him. I think what

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Speaker 1: His issue is really he struggled with the spin move,

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Speaker 1: I like Illuminaur's mindset. After every practice, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I've had a chance to go over and talk to him,

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Speaker 1: and all he wants to talk about is that one

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Speaker 3: He was winning some of those reps against Hutchinson. To

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Speaker 3: Hutcherson didn't pitch a shutout here.

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Speaker 1: No, there was a couple of times where he locked

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Speaker 1: of I thought they were very productive and I thought

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Speaker 1: he pressed the whole and he kept the front side.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've seen a running back

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Speaker 1: and I thought they were really physical against a really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: One thing I want to ask you about Priscilla because

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Speaker 3: now you've kind of seen him coach for a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. Now you've probably been out to almost a

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Speaker 2: I think just.

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Speaker 3: The detail and the way he teaches, it's cerebral, and

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Speaker 3: kind of talks to these guys's individuals after each play.

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Speaker 2: I want to get your take on that.

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Speaker 3: And then the other thing I've noticed too, especially with

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Speaker 3: the tackle Sean, I think they're setting much more vertically.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're they're they're they're letting, they're giving themselves

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Speaker 3: some time to get in position where for fans, But no,

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Speaker 3: you said, you know, vertical sets, you kind of set

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Speaker 3: agains speed rushers. You're not gonna get beat right away

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Speaker 3: that way. Now you have to be able to anchor

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Speaker 3: I feel like the vertical sets for you guys that

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Speaker 3: you have out there at tackle probably helps that group.

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Speaker 3: And if Evan neils here, I think it would help

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Speaker 3: him too when he gets healthy. But those are the

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Speaker 3: two things about Brisila that have really jumped out of me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's obvious that the footwork it looks good.

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Speaker 1: The tackles look cohesive, they look like they're getting to

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Speaker 1: the intersection point in a different timing, in a different way.

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Speaker 1: But I think with coach Briscilla, what I've really just

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Speaker 1: see is his demeanor is really good for these guys,

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Speaker 1: like the way that he coaches them, what he's demanding

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Speaker 1: of them, and as an offensive line unit, you kind

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Speaker 1: of take on the personality of your O line coach

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Speaker 1: and Pat Flaherty flats as we used to call him, Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was tough as gristle and he expected

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Speaker 1: that of us, and he wrote us hard at times,

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Speaker 1: but he also knew when to kind of all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna step back a little bit, let

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Speaker 1: you guys figure this out. I think that relationship already,

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Speaker 1: you can see that where they respect everything that he's

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Speaker 1: teaching them, and there's respect that he has for some

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Speaker 1: of these guys as well. But I think he does

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Speaker 1: right them hard, and I think he's pushing them, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's uh, he's seeing the fruits of those labors.

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Speaker 2: And it's not yelling and screaming like a maniac like

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Speaker 2: he talks. You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's not. He's not Gunny Highway yelling at

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Speaker 1: them the entire time. But he's very sustinct when he

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Speaker 1: says like, hey, this is what you did wrong, this

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like a little quirks. You know, he's demanding, Hey,

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Speaker 1: look after that rep you stopped, like you know, I

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Speaker 1: he's making everybody else better. Look, if you're Jalen Hyatt.

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Speaker 1: You know, like by week two or three, they're going

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Speaker 1: to be dictating coverage to him, and now I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get one on one opportunity. Everybody else is gonna

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Speaker 1: be gonna benefit from this guy. But I think he's

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Speaker 1: also like the Giants, They've needed an explosive guy. They've

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Speaker 1: needed somebody that defenses have to fear, and obviously no

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. Now you have a guy in neighbors that

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Speaker 1: can handle all that and can bring that to the table.

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what the Giants offense needed.

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Speaker 4: You loved turf, You're good at it, so you start

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Speaker 4: a turf biz. Business grows, your savings grow, become the

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Speaker 4: most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all

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Speaker 4: that life brings?

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Speaker 3: I want to throw a couple laurels at Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: I thought he's had two of his better days of

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Speaker 3: practice against a tough opponent in Detroit Sean and we

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Speaker 3: all kind of saw him. It was never physical with him.

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Speaker 3: He would move around well, he would run, he was fine,

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Speaker 3: but I just felt like the timing in the passing

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Speaker 3: game wasn't quite there yet. Over the first ten to

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Speaker 3: eleven days, of practice. Yeah, I thought he just was

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Speaker 3: letting it go a little bit more against Detroit. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it's seen another jersey where he's just like,

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Speaker 3: all right, this is it now I'm going and he

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Speaker 3: was on point, accurate, on time, good velocity. I thought

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Speaker 3: Daniel looked really good in both practices against Detroit.

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Speaker 1: He has looked so much better this week. You know,

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Speaker 1: last week I felt like the offense, not just Dane's own,

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Speaker 1: the offense was clunky, like it just felt like many

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Speaker 1: were tripping over their shoelace and FuMB on the ball

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Speaker 1: and it looked like the Bad News Bears at times.

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Speaker 1: I thought that they did a great job bouncing back and.

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Speaker 3: Euro turnovers by the way, and both they didn't turn

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Speaker 3: it over once against the lines in either practice.

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Speaker 1: That's great. And there was a couple of ball there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of balls that probably should have been caught,

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Speaker 1: but but I think it was. They definitely look more functional,

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Speaker 1: they look cleaner, Daniel looks more confident in these last

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Speaker 1: two practices, and to your point, like the ball I

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Speaker 1: think is coming out. I think that first week it

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Speaker 1: was a little slow. The whole thing was a little

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Speaker 1: bit just a tick slower than it should have been.

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Speaker 1: I think the urgency was ramped up a little bit. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the energy when you're practicing against another team ramps everything up.

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Speaker 1: But he has definitely looked better. I think for him,

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Speaker 1: it's great to see him struggle and not do well

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Speaker 1: and then shake it off and come right back and

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Speaker 1: and hey, put it behind me, moving on, because look, this,

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Speaker 1: he's never gone through an injury like this. He's never

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Speaker 1: had a major injury like this. And yes, he had

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Speaker 1: the neck injury a couple of weeks ago, a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, but this has been huge, and his

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Speaker 1: whole offseason has been dedicated towards trying to get back

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Speaker 1: to ground level, right to sea level here. So I

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Speaker 1: think for him, he didn't have the eleven on elevens

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Speaker 1: in Springs. He did seven on sevens, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: have the time to really establish that rapport with the

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Speaker 1: receivers and the timing, So that has been a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a rough factor for him. But I think

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Speaker 1: that he's grown so much even in just a week.

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Speaker 1: These are going to continue to get better. His accuracy

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Speaker 1: was much better in the last two days as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, finally, heading into the first preseason game.

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Speaker 3: As of this recording, we're recording this. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: right after practice on Tuesday, we have no idea who's

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Speaker 3: playing in this game. Yeah, So take me behind the

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Speaker 3: scenes as a former player for the guys that are

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Speaker 3: going to go out there, what are your goals as

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Speaker 3: a player? What are you trying to get out of

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Speaker 3: this first preseason game, especially after to joint practices like this,

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Speaker 3: You'd a couple of joint practices against the Jets in

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Speaker 3: your time here, right, it was all the fights?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we did with the Jets. We had some skirmishes.

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Speaker 1: Shocky that's like the first it was the first player

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Speaker 1: nine on seven and it was like boom, you know what.

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Speaker 1: With Shocky, it was never a matter of if there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fight, it's win that one. It was like,

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Speaker 1: let's just get out of the way. And it was

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Speaker 1: like hockey, the gloves went down right on the on

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Speaker 1: the puck drop.

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Speaker 3: So, so just tell me from a player's despective, what

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Speaker 3: are you trying to get out of this game? And

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Speaker 3: then as somebody who's gonna call the game with us

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Speaker 3: on the radio on Thursday, what are you looking for?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Looking forward to just seeing the guys compete. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. Hey, you get a chance to

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Speaker 1: go out and playing a game, you're competing and you

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Speaker 1: want to put your best WoT forward. I think there's

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Speaker 1: always like two different types of players, Like there's the

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Speaker 1: veteran players that if you're playing this game and you

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Speaker 1: know you're a starter and you're gonna, you know, make

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Speaker 1: the team. It's like, I want to get in and

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Speaker 1: get out. I want to I want to be healthy obviously,

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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure I have no mental errors.

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Speaker 1: Like let's just clean it all up. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to look sloppy out there. For the younger players, it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And you were one of those guys, right I was

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Speaker 2: a younger player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was an undrafted free agent, and I remember

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Speaker 1: the preseason games. It was Okay, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have six reps, ten reps. I sure heck,

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Speaker 1: can't cut myself. I can't have a mental error if

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Speaker 1: I only get six reps and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing on one of them. Like now I just

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Speaker 1: eliminated one play right there, I only have five other plays,

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Speaker 1: Like you have to maximize your moment. But I think

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Speaker 1: the big thing with the young players is play fast,

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Speaker 1: like hey, listen, even if you make a mistake, like,

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Speaker 1: do it full speed, don't be hesitant. You've got to

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Speaker 1: just go and once you get out there, it's a

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Speaker 1: different speed, right. Joint practice is a different speed, different

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Speaker 1: intention level than regular practice. The preseason games are even faster.

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Speaker 1: I think you learn a lot about players in these

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Speaker 1: games is Look, things are not always going to line

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Speaker 1: up the way that you thought they were, or they're

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Speaker 1: not always going to happen the way that you would

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Speaker 1: envision them or walk through. How do you adjust? And

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Speaker 1: that's always a big part of the games here. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's great to see some of these young

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Speaker 1: players come out and now I'll senden Hey, look, I

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Speaker 1: get a chance to make a name for myself. You

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Speaker 1: know I can make a big play or for some

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Speaker 1: guys that are trying to make the team, look, I

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Speaker 1: just need to show that I'm consistent and you can

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Speaker 1: count on me. Good Stuf Sean, Thanks.

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