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Speaker 1: interviewed Ryan Russillo and we went for a about fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty five minutes, which is about double the length I

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Speaker 1: usually go. So I thought, you know what, you people

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Speaker 1: about thirty minutes, so I thought I'd cut it in half.

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Speaker 1: Here is the second, roughly half hour with the ringers,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Russillo. So here we are. It's not a star

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Speaker 1: studded draft. Arizona, Gonzaga Purdue are pretty good in college basketball,

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Speaker 1: the free agency period of Aaron Stays isn't that dynamic?

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Speaker 1: And I was telling Joey Taylor today, I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm always very reticent to say, hey, hot take by somebody,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's going to go to the Warriors, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. I remember people insinuating that and saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: give me a freaking break, He's not going to go

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Speaker 1: to his rival. And what's interesting about what's happening in

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Speaker 1: sports is what I really like, Ryan. This is a

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Speaker 1: trend I love in sports. General managers are younger and

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Speaker 1: way more daring, especially NFL guys. And I saw that

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson thing the other day on the Eagles, and

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Speaker 1: I almost said, Okay, this is ridiculous, and I thought, now,

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman would give up seven picks. I really honestly

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Speaker 1: believe that. It's one of the things I really like

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Speaker 1: about the current sort of momentum of sports is young

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Speaker 1: daring owners. I mean, you know, now, RUSSELLO, because owners

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Speaker 1: make so have such great net worth, writing off forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars is a rounding air. You wouldn't have done

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Speaker 1: that in the eighties, you just stuck with a coach

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Speaker 1: for another year. Should these guys make that in an afternoon,

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Speaker 1: They're all like eighteen twenty thirty billion in that. That's

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Speaker 1: thirty there, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there were okay,

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Speaker 1: yeah right. I just don't want some fire. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to find I don't want Jim Kramer because I

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Speaker 1: know he listened to this podcast regularly getting on your case.

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Speaker 1: All right, So that's my favorite trend in sports, daring

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Speaker 1: Ryan Russilo loves. We can edit this. Take your time, please, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: don't let me. Let me think about this. I think

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Speaker 1: it was this past weekend with the NBA All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: which I watched zero of except for the Shaquille O'Neal

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Speaker 1: there being plenty of evidence where a generation of basketball

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Speaker 1: players from the eighties, nineties, maybe early two thousands have

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Speaker 1: five years that basketball is worse. Yeah. I don't like

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Speaker 1: all the three point shots either, but the shot making,

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: So when I think about some of the arguments against it,

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Speaker 1: of people would get together go, yeah, we did it

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Speaker 1: wrong for a long time, you know, what's not smart.

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Speaker 1: It is running it up the middle with ten bodies

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Speaker 1: we did that to establish something. Well you got fucking

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Speaker 1: Let's just throw the ball a little bit more, right,

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Speaker 1: Remember the old parcels saying, well, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: Like I'll figure this out. Oh, receivers, they won't know

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Well, I can remember talking to

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Speaker 1: no man's land. I'd rather have a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: there's always like fifteen guys that are just different in

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Speaker 1: that's one of the things Ryan that and Malcolm Gladwell

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Speaker 1: had never been anywhere. So the rule when you're from Massachusetts,

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Speaker 1: you think everyplace sucks even though you've never been to

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Speaker 1: any of them. And then you actually start traveling and

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Speaker 1: you're like, anyone, I don't even know if Boss is

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Speaker 1: in my top ten anymore. And when I was still

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Speaker 1: in Connecticut, we were doing the show across the Hall

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Speaker 1: Fruit allway from each other for all those years, and

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Speaker 1: we started becoming closer because you know, once you're the

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Speaker 1: younger guy, and you think you're smarter than everybody, and

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Speaker 1: then you start getting a little bit older. I always

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Speaker 1: love that line. I forget which writer had it, and

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Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't stand my dad when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: but as I age he started coming around. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that's what it was, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's what it was with me with you. But I

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Speaker 1: finally at some point, you know, I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: manifest guy or that kind of vision board dude. I

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Speaker 1: don't have arts and crafts going over here at the house.

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Speaker 1: But I saw fancy picture of a house in Manhattan Beach.

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Speaker 1: When I came out here to visit, I picked up

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Speaker 1: a real estate guide. I couldn't afford the front yard

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Speaker 1: back then, and I ripped a picture out of a

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Speaker 1: house that I was like, I'd like to live in

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Speaker 1: something like that. I put on my fridge and it

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Speaker 1: was on my fridge in Connecticut for years. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it took a little bit longer than I wanted to,

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Speaker 1: but that's kind of the lesson in all of it, too.

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Speaker 1: So I ended up here. So what are you? Thirty

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Speaker 1: nine thirty eight? How do you you fuck up my

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Speaker 1: age every time, and I love you for it. I'm

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Speaker 1: forty six, man, but you you really are a young thinker.

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Speaker 1: For forty six, I don't think of you. I honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think of you as a real young guy. I

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Speaker 1: hear that a lot, and I I kind of like it.

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Speaker 1: And then sometimes I'm like, does that mean that people

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Speaker 1: just think I'm really immature? Which is also potential potential

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Speaker 1: part of the scattering report. But yeah, you screw up

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Speaker 1: my age constantly, which I know I do. Be about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy about it. Keep doing it. I want you

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Speaker 1: to tell I want people. You're out in the streets.

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Speaker 1: You're telling people I'm thirty nine. Well, you're like Horball, like,

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Speaker 1: which I always think. I mean, I would, yes, Harbors

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Speaker 1: forty eight. He's fifty eight. Now you could say he

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Speaker 1: should be you know what, he's not as successful as

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Speaker 1: I think because he's almost sixty. But I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the truth of the matter is he's an incredibly

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Speaker 1: young fifty eight. Like Hardball to me, will coach till

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Speaker 1: he's eighty. He's an athlete. I mean, Nick Saban looks

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Speaker 1: great at seventy Hardball be great at seventy four. I

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Speaker 1: look at you, and I'm like, you work out or

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Speaker 1: you work out more than any sportscaster in the country.

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Speaker 1: You're like the youngest forty whatever you are in the industry.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at my young My agent the other day

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Speaker 1: forgot and he was because I said something about like,

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Speaker 1: hey man, you know, we're getting there where I need

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Speaker 1: to start talking about some of this other stuff. And

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Speaker 1: he was like, well, he because you're not even forty,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about it. I was like, look, thanks,

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Speaker 1: but and then it was but then it goes like,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, you are actually kind of old, Like what's

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Speaker 1: going on with you, dude? You're not old, dude, Believe me.

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Speaker 1: I'm always amazed. I checked this stuff. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I used to do this. And also, fifty years ago

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Speaker 1: you just couldn't go to the internet and find everybody's age.

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Speaker 1: I am. I am really fascinated how vibrant a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are. I'm watching this Carl Icon documentary. He's sharp,

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Speaker 1: he's got this beautiful wife. They're going back and forth

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Speaker 1: at each other, and I'm like, dude's like eighty five

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Speaker 1: like he and he's, by the way, still a massive

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Speaker 1: disruptor on Wall Street, and I'm like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: had an agent once tell me. He was talking about

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Speaker 1: Regis Philment. He goes, you'll be fine until the number

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Speaker 1: eight is the first number of your age. He goes,

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Speaker 1: you seven, especially with nutrition, there's just ways to you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like he's like the seventh thing used to be a number.

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Speaker 1: Like nobody cares anymore. Like if you're a producer of revenue. Shit.

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Speaker 1: Trump and Biden were two like old guys running for president.

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Speaker 1: They blew out all the kids. So it's like, that's

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Speaker 1: a job. I'm just talking. That's like, that's a grown

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Speaker 1: up job. I've come to terms with that, you know.

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Speaker 1: Joey Taylor had another great point today. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get political, but you maybe do your job better

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Speaker 1: than the last two presidents. Boom began to get out

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Speaker 1: my case because I was equally fair on that one.

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Speaker 1: So Joy said, you know, they pay the presidents four

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. She's like, what quality are you getting for

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Speaker 1: four hundred thousand. She's like, it needs to be paid

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Speaker 1: what the commissioner of a sports league makes like forty

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Speaker 1: million bucks a year, eight million pension. Then like bezos

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he'd be a great president. But

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Speaker 1: then the quality of people Bezos, sorry, the quality of

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Speaker 1: people would who would run in the vile nature of

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Speaker 1: the ecosystem today for four hundred grand in a tiny

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Speaker 1: pension when, by the way, you can't open a window

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Speaker 1: at the White House because of security reasons. It's an

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Speaker 1: awful job. Okay, yes, it's an awful job. But the

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Speaker 1: book deals alone after that, like, look, go through all

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Speaker 1: the Clinton stuff after the fact, go through the Obama

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Speaker 1: stuff after the fact, and that some people argued Trump

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Speaker 1: ran because he was actually broke. There's a big payout

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Speaker 1: for everybody that gets to be president number forty whatever.

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Speaker 1: So I would agree the salary part of it doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. Do you know Back in the day,

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Speaker 1: I don't forget which year it ended. I think it

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Speaker 1: was still going on with Teddy Roosevelt because I was

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Speaker 1: reading a book that you were allowed to go to

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Speaker 1: the White House to talk to the president if you

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Speaker 1: just showed up, like they had to see you. That

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Speaker 1: was part of the job. That would be like you

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Speaker 1: responding to every tweet every single day, but actually doing

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Speaker 1: it in person. So eventually they ruled that one out

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Speaker 1: because if security reasons alone. I would imagine, and I

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Speaker 1: don't remember the exact time where it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we can't be doing this anymore. But I think there's

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Speaker 1: a payoff that makes up that compensates about the salary. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I have to so according to you, I have

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Speaker 1: to write a book to finally get paid, but somebody

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Speaker 1: else writes it for you. Two. Do you ever see Veep? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was funny. I like Veep. I love Veep.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there's there. It's I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the best analogy of is because it's the president. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but there nobody if you're if you play your cards

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Speaker 1: right and have the right people around you for the

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Speaker 1: right business opportunities, you're gonna make millions after you hold

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Speaker 1: the office. Another downer, everybody looks like crap once they

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Speaker 1: leave the White House. Obama looks pretty good, but almost

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Speaker 1: everybody else ages twenty years in four it's brutal. You

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. You'd be on growth hormone. You get

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Speaker 1: busted to be a national scandal. Dude, I'm too vain. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I look, I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I would love it though. Actually Colin Cowherd President. We

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Speaker 1: went from GM to president in forty minutes, which is

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Speaker 1: a president. But I would love I would love to

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Speaker 1: hear your speech on like some sort of conflict overseas.

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, look, you know they still have basic cable.

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Speaker 1: Of course they're invading people. These people are unhappy. We

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Speaker 1: like choices. It's twenty twenty two. We want things fast,

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Speaker 1: we want to hit a button. We want Disney for

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Speaker 1: the kids. We want your Fouria for when when there's

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Speaker 1: the babysitters over, you know, we want Hapty like there's

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Speaker 1: it's not surprising me that Prussia has their issues and

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Speaker 1: the people be like, wow, col hurt that Like I

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Speaker 1: didn't think of it that way. That was a good analogy.

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Speaker 1: There's never been an analogy president. I could be the first. Hey,

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Speaker 1: tell Simmon, let's go to dinner. And I know you

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Speaker 1: Spotify and you guys are doing very well, so I'll

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Speaker 1: pick up your tab. I'm not picking up his. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's busy by the way, getting a text back

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Speaker 1: from him is. I mean, it's like, it's like I

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Speaker 1: don't like hearing that, so I'm sorry about that. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry and behalf of behalf, behalf of the Swedish company

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Speaker 1: that I work for. We mean, you know, the Swedes

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Speaker 1: are delicate, extremely friendly, understanding people, so we'll get on that,

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Speaker 1: all right, So good talk to anybody. Hey, thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it. Had fun this week. Ruscilla

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Speaker 1: was a was a treat, don't get it talk to

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Speaker 1: him much. We'll talk soon. The volume