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<v Speaker 1>Uh he's a family man or a wife and two

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<v Speaker 1>handsome young men, and he's a truck driver. Turn baker.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear me, hear me? There go truck driver turn baker.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you know truck you know you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just got there, just on that road and all

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<v Speaker 1>that good stuff. But he's a baker, so I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what he's doing. After being inspired by a

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<v Speaker 1>video featuring my man Steve Harvey, he does a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of inspirational videos on the Regular Divers part of this

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel, he decided to follow his passion and start baking.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear that. He decided to start follow and follow

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<v Speaker 1>his passion and start baking. He took that passion and

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<v Speaker 1>started his very own business called Brother Bakes as b

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<v Speaker 1>O b r O t h A Bakes. It is

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<v Speaker 1>an online bakery based out of Houston, Texas. They special

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<v Speaker 1>lies and cakes and the ship all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're talking about, online bakery that ships all

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<v Speaker 1>over the country. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation, my

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<v Speaker 1>man houstonian Mark Lennon. Thanks for having well Mark. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that introduction, man, making me feel a lot of professionals.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you're professional today. You delivered uh to

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<v Speaker 1>my house for your desserts. They come in the jar

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<v Speaker 1>that kicks in the jar. We'll talked about more detailed

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<v Speaker 1>but let everybody know one of us called the the

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<v Speaker 1>Ready Murphy. I love this guy. You know, he has

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of humor and he ties the names of

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<v Speaker 1>famous people, but he shifts a little bit of their name.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you kind of know what the dessert is tied

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<v Speaker 1>to the name of the celebrity that he's married the

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<v Speaker 1>dessert to Ready Murphy. I got that today, the banana

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<v Speaker 1>Ross got that today. The Germaine dupris, which is German

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate cake, which I love. Man, you have me sold

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<v Speaker 1>on German ta So is that what to your website? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>So German taca k, I was your man. I was

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<v Speaker 1>your man right there, and then the Marah carry and

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<v Speaker 1>my second favorite cake is carrot cake. So you already

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<v Speaker 1>got two of my favorite cakes over there, the German

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<v Speaker 1>takak and the carrot cake. So let's talk about well

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<v Speaker 1>you take care of it, because guess what this is

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<v Speaker 1>picture with me holding your product. Okay, I'm gonna post

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<v Speaker 1>it on social media. You know, I've got like eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand followers on my Facebook, right and Then this Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to drop your the image that you have

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<v Speaker 1>on your Facebook, that beautiful image that you have all

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<v Speaker 1>those open jars. I'm gonna drop that on the Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Put the link in my newsletter that goes out there

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<v Speaker 1>naighty thousand fans on Wednesday. So those are the things

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<v Speaker 1>great product. So that's that's what you're getting because you're

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<v Speaker 1>a great person and you're following your dreams. Okay, oh man, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to h We appreciate that. Well good, well, good,

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<v Speaker 1>well good. Let let's talk about let's talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>inspired Let's let's let's talk about your truck driving life.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that first, and so then because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand the time that was spent over there too,

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<v Speaker 1>before we peep it into the what what what inspired

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<v Speaker 1>you do your dream and how you're doing your dream. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about truck driving life. All right, Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do that. So a little bit more before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into truck driving. I was actually a classic designer for

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen years. Okay, cool man, Yeah, in Columbia, South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just didn't work out. You know, the market

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<v Speaker 1>drive up a little bit. I need to do something. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a guy who's trying to provide for my family.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea of going back to school for three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years just wasn't having it for me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, I can get this

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<v Speaker 1>CDL in six weeks start working providing for my family.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how I became a truck driver. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing that for about four years. Uh, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>good for me, it's been good for my family. Is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a good break, um from the class design in

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<v Speaker 1>the marketing. But then, um, as I'm driving, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it just wasn't It's just not my full passion.

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<v Speaker 1>I do enjoy it, you know, I'm good at it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just wasn't where I wanted to be. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you are are you're a local driver or you line

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<v Speaker 1>drive from state to state, the city of the city. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a local driver right here in Houston Metro. For

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<v Speaker 1>those of you familiar with Houston, UM, my route is

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere from Houston down to Galveston. Well good, Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I found out about you, my friend or was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Uh, everybody knows Steve Harvey. I've been knowing

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<v Speaker 1>each other for thirty years. I was a manager from

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<v Speaker 1>official manager from two thousands sixteen, and I read an

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<v Speaker 1>article in the Houston Chronicle, the number one newspaper in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>and they talked about you, and then you had a

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<v Speaker 1>little note in there that said that you were inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by something to talk about that is what inspired you

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<v Speaker 1>that Steve Harvey did for you. Yeah, back in um

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<v Speaker 1>the early part of the nineteen I'm just sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the barbershop getting my hair cut. My barbera plays this video.

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<v Speaker 1>It has Steve Harvey in it, my Huse Monroe in

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Washington, and I'm listening to it and Steve said,

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<v Speaker 1>if that alarm clock goes up every morning and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not excited about what you're doing, you're not living in

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<v Speaker 1>your passion. And that hit me like a ton of bricks.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, that it just resonated with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So from that point on, I started thinking, Man, what

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<v Speaker 1>am I doing? What should I be doing? Where is

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<v Speaker 1>my passion? Went through a bunch of stuff that I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about. And Steve also said that if it

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<v Speaker 1>comes easy to you something you do better than anybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you give an example, if you cut here better

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<v Speaker 1>than anybody else, you should be cutting here. And even

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<v Speaker 1>said if you bake better than anyone else, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be baking. And I was and that kind of hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, I'll make some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good cakes. And from that point on it was just

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<v Speaker 1>full speed ahead. How can I get this going? How

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<v Speaker 1>can I get it started? And Steve really inspired me.

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<v Speaker 1>It changed my life, It really did. Okay, Okay, he

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<v Speaker 1>motivated you. Okay, but that motivation and execution are two

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<v Speaker 1>different things now because a lot of people get motivated,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that, Mark right, Oh, I'm excited go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and then and say, oh I gotta do all that. Whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa. Okay, cool, now let's talk about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, graphic designer, you learn how to pivot, trump driver,

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<v Speaker 1>smart move and come steady income. Now all these pivot

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<v Speaker 1>moves and you're making you have to discuss what the

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<v Speaker 1>number one at the house the wife Okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>got two handsome young men there. Okay, So talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation that you had with her, and had you

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<v Speaker 1>displayed these gifts to her and at that level that

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<v Speaker 1>she believed that it was possible. Talk about that. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my biggest fans of my wife and my

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<v Speaker 1>two kids, of my baking, they've experienced more of my

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<v Speaker 1>desert than anybody else. She knew the product was good,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also know that I'm a prop person who's

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<v Speaker 1>tried a few things in the past, things that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out. So she was a little worried at first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you, and she's say, look, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do this, you need to do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to go hard on it, and this needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be the thing. It's like, I can't have you

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<v Speaker 1>flaking out on me. Um. And once we had that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and I kind of explained to her in my vision,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, this is different because I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about it. Excuse me. And she was all on board, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>very encouraging that that's That's that's important because like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when we come and when I bring guests

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<v Speaker 1>like you on money making conversation because you're startup. You

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<v Speaker 1>went from start up to execution. Now is this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the promotion, you know, you helping you get

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<v Speaker 1>your word out generating additional This is more of a

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Rochan for any of you on me, but

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<v Speaker 1>also helped me promote and sell my cakes. What exactly

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<v Speaker 1>Brother Bake? What exactly does Brother Bakes do? Okay? So

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<v Speaker 1>what we do is we specialize in making cakes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>say that one more time. To say that one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you specialize in whatnot? Whatnot? We put cakes. We

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<v Speaker 1>put cakes into jars and we ship them all over

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<v Speaker 1>the country, including Alaska, Hawaii. That's what we do. And

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<v Speaker 1>they had the equivalent of about two cupcakes. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>quite think we are the most delicious cakes you can

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<v Speaker 1>find in a jar. Now you know I'm a dessert guy. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people look at people always complain about going to my

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook page, is said Reich, I'm tired of you make

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<v Speaker 1>me hungry. Okay, get on my doring, nervous they said

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<v Speaker 1>another word. But but it's all positive when they say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from Peach Cobb, the Germany Chocolate cake, sweet

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<v Speaker 1>Potato pie care cake. Now, what made you believe, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>that you can put a cake in a jar and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody would buy that? What made you believe that? Now, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>Steef Harvey didn't say that to you, Okay, but Steve

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say that to me. So how how this all

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<v Speaker 1>came about? Yeah, we want to know that. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to know that. Now. I knew I had good products.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty confident about that, but typically the case,

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<v Speaker 1>I bake a full sized cakes and I thought about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, sending a cake in the mail for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't gonna happen. That's just not something that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to tackle. So I started thinking about it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard of people doing this before. In fact, about

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<v Speaker 1>five or six years ago, as a Christmas gift, I

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<v Speaker 1>had some Christmas velvet and a cake that I gave

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<v Speaker 1>out to some family members. They loved it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just came back to that idea, like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I put these cakes in the jar, I can ship

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<v Speaker 1>them all over the place. And not only that, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of family having one flavor of cake, they can have

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<v Speaker 1>four different flavors, eight different flavors, whatever they want, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's happy. So that's why where that kind of came from.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I decided to do that. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to ship jars than it is a full size Kike. Absolutely, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's not so much that you know it's easier,

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<v Speaker 1>but just do you have to maintain the quality, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's the whole process we're talking about right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because and you want return customers, you want word of

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<v Speaker 1>mouth customers, you want people, you know, especially become seasonal

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<v Speaker 1>customers and things like that. Now, now we all know

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<v Speaker 1>what hit this year, the pandemic COVID Nati. Okay, when

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<v Speaker 1>did you at your business? Let me ask you that question. Mark, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I launched my business officially in November. Okay, November, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody saw a pandemic coming. Nobody saw it coming. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and here I am. You know, I'm selling my cakes

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<v Speaker 1>online and that's going well. But I'm like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Houston. Houston is hopping, man, everything's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Houston. So why don't I take some of my

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<v Speaker 1>cakes to the markets? Um? Some of the festivals around here,

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<v Speaker 1>and as soon as I get up to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when COVID hit and so all of that was

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<v Speaker 1>shut down. So you know, I had to take a

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<v Speaker 1>step back. Like you know what, dream still goes for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I reamp, you know, my efforts, and I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to just focus more on the online sales, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where we are. Wow. Wow, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Mark Lennon. He's a he's done in by way

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<v Speaker 1>of call me in South Carolina, right, Okay, I know

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, I know by Columbia Many Day, went down

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<v Speaker 1>there and uh did some jokes with me and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>out there selling out there. The township auditorioum okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to hit you with the name. You go, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, he for real, he for real of the

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<v Speaker 1>man you know about the township? Absolutely, brother, A little

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot that surrounds that build. It looks like old church.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get started in that direction about your business,

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<v Speaker 1>and and we know what's happening out there. Black lives matters.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw what happened to George Floyd. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you know, you're black man, just like me,

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<v Speaker 1>policemen stopped me and I just could just be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a comfortable feeling for any African American male

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<v Speaker 1>to be stopped on I'm sorry. Yeah, it has not

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<v Speaker 1>been something. It has been that way my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just I got a driver slice and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been that way, and that should not be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>You have two young men, uh that you're raising. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you approach that and what have you what what

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<v Speaker 1>experiences have you shared with them? That's what's going because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you do limit the amount of expose you do

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, our children or teenagers. Tell us about that

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<v Speaker 1>experience that you're you're and your wife are dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>right now and raising those two young men. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we do live in a time where we

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<v Speaker 1>have to have these conversations, you know, with our kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, my kids are twelve and fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>you all, LiLine business. I would like to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>your your business has not been affected as much as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a bricket mortar. Yeah, exactly, it has not. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you know, despite what's going on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our sales have gone up, and I think in part

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<v Speaker 1>because of Black Lives Matter and there are people that

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<v Speaker 1>are supporting more black businesses. That part is true. But

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<v Speaker 1>also the fact that people are stuck at home and

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<v Speaker 1>they still want delicious desserts and then we can provide

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<v Speaker 1>them with that, and I think that is a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of of what's going on. UM and all honesty

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<v Speaker 1>as well as for me myself, you know, getting connected

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<v Speaker 1>with um Next Insurance, who featured me in a commercial

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. That's right, Next Insurance. I've seen those

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<v Speaker 1>commercials with the people making a box and other necks

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<v Speaker 1>and doing different things with the word next. Talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that right quick? Okay, So you know, UM, when I

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<v Speaker 1>started this business back in November of UM, I went

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<v Speaker 1>hard on it, I really did. I had advertising and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. Through one of those advertising UM, this young

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<v Speaker 1>lady by the name of Jack found me and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Hey, would you be interested in doing something

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<v Speaker 1>with Next Insurance? How COVID has affected me and I

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<v Speaker 1>did you know? I told my story similar what I

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier about how I was all get up to

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<v Speaker 1>get out here in Houston and promote my business, going

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<v Speaker 1>to different festivals and to the markets, but when COVID hit,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to shut down that as my story. Next

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<v Speaker 1>love that story. So they wanted to feature me and

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<v Speaker 1>they did, and from that point on, things have been

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<v Speaker 1>going really well for me. What exactly is Next Insurance?

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<v Speaker 1>We can tell everybody what it is. You you're part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Let's talk about the small business world, how

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<v Speaker 1>how impactful it is, and how we all need that

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<v Speaker 1>type of insurance specially that's the last thing we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of budget when we start out our business. It's insurance

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<v Speaker 1>and insurance should be the top of the line. Okay

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that. You know you in Next Contact,

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<v Speaker 1>did you you say that it brought it shinned a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of popularity on you. But also you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a spokesperson too, So tell me what exactly is

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<v Speaker 1>Next Insurance? So Next Insurance is um an insurance company

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<v Speaker 1>that specialized and providing insurance for small businesses. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a website that is so easy to use, you sign

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<v Speaker 1>up in minutes. It's nice and affordable, and it's half

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<v Speaker 1>were free. Their customer services wonderful and of course not

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<v Speaker 1>only do I represent them, but you know I am

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<v Speaker 1>a customer as well and has no problems uh when

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<v Speaker 1>I need to talk to someone. So Next has been

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<v Speaker 1>really good and it is a good insurance for small businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>It also grows with you as well, absolutely youth startings,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can expand with you. Absolutely. So so let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your business you started in November. If you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not using the world mistake, but we

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<v Speaker 1>all budget certain things, and we all think this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go in a certain direction. And we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about COVID ninteen or we're not talking about these

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<v Speaker 1>the civil unrest is going on all with protesting the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about starting a business and planning it out right,

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<v Speaker 1>who did you seek advice from and how if you

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<v Speaker 1>had to restart it differently, what techniques would you put

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<v Speaker 1>in place and what guidelines you in place or what

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<v Speaker 1>would you budget differently? Okay, Uh, definitely one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that would budget differently is buy an equipment very

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<v Speaker 1>least seeing if my house can handle the equipment that

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<v Speaker 1>I purchased, you know, so talk about that, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the powerful letter, you know. So, so I'm in this house,

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<v Speaker 1>right and it's a little bit of an older house,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I decide, you know, maybe some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a refrigerator and uh uh stove in the garage

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good idea, but you know, purchased it

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<v Speaker 1>without talking to the electrician for us and realized that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a lot of work to get this

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<v Speaker 1>house uh to where it needs to be. Honestly, I've

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<v Speaker 1>handled that equipment, so you know, I am. I have

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<v Speaker 1>the equipment, but at the moment, I can't use it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the things, um, that I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that I needed to. Uh. Let's definitely take a step

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<v Speaker 1>back before week we do too much and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see what all needs to be done before you start

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing equipment. Now let's talk about going online, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>brother Bakes dot com. Can I go through the different

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<v Speaker 1>desserts and can you describe the people each one of

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<v Speaker 1>the desserts? And why did you come over? The titles?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you bring what which I find very humorous

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<v Speaker 1>and very entertainment. Tell us about the titles before we

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<v Speaker 1>need to get into the various desserts. Okay, So you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Black culture. I love my people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to celebrate it. That was a first thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Brother Bag the logo is a picture of myself

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<v Speaker 1>style lies and the name brother you know itself just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sounds black, and so that's where it all

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<v Speaker 1>started out. But with the names, you know, I'm sitting down,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking I didn't just want to call it call

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<v Speaker 1>it a red velvet cake. I wanted something that was catchy,

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<v Speaker 1>wanted something that was connected to African American culture. So,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tapping back into my graphic design and marketing background,

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<v Speaker 1>the name ready Murphy just kind of popped up and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, and I kind of like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>then after that Murphy, which is read when it is

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<v Speaker 1>the yea, And from that point it was just coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with names for all the other cakes that uh

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of tie into our culture. The next case

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<v Speaker 1>is this is my favorite name though, the choco con.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny, you know, the the Anstes. That was actually

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<v Speaker 1>the second name I came up with, the chocolate. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point is the whole thing? Did your wife

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<v Speaker 1>said you're silly? What's your wife said? You? Sill it? Mark?

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<v Speaker 1>You said it? You know she loves because she knows me.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows that's who I am, right, he knows That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm all about. So she she was just dying

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh yeah, let's go with it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what that's That's all that we were saying about,

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<v Speaker 1>following that passion, you know, getting up out of bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell people, if it's difficult for you to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of bed, then that means you didn't plan

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of bed in the first place. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you're smiling and you're laughing and you're enjoying,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having fun building your dream. When you get out

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<v Speaker 1>of bed, you can out of bed and find out

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<v Speaker 1>how many more cakes you can get sold. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different passion than to say a delivery I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make in Galveston. That's different. Yeah, so so much different. Yes, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to move the next one off. But now

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<v Speaker 1>the Ross. But now the Ross. No mountain, high enough, valley,

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<v Speaker 1>lord enough a river wild enough to keep be away

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<v Speaker 1>from this dessert. I love it exactly. Yeah, definitely. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>A little tribute to the clean Diana Ross on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>We take a Morsh banana cake and top it with

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<v Speaker 1>fresh bananas and a vanilla putting frosting. Try this and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be upside down inside out and go round and

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<v Speaker 1>round for more. Man, You're crazy. That is the That

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<v Speaker 1>is the Banana Ross. We all, we went through the

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<v Speaker 1>Ready Murphy, We went through the Chaco Con, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the second name he came up with. Now with the

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<v Speaker 1>Banana Ross. Now let's go on down to it. German

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<v Speaker 1>dupri which is Germaine Duprix. Yeah, actually lived in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, so I had to give a

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube The Dirty South, The Dirty South. Okay, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you you don't have to be in Atlanta icon to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this one. We take a traditional German chocolate a

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<v Speaker 1>cake and mix it with chocolate icing and a classic

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<v Speaker 1>German chocolate coconut frosting. Tried it and we think, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hot, man, and it contained nuts. That's hot right there,

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<v Speaker 1>right there. Let's go to the next one here, Lamon James. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way, James. That's my lemon cake. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would have loved it. Called it Michael Jordan's. But hey,

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know I love LEBRONI hey, my man, Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you know why I like Lament James

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<v Speaker 1>a businessman, Okay, he takes care of community. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fearless and uh again like you man, he says

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<v Speaker 1>his story. He's you know that's saying Michael isn't pro black,

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<v Speaker 1>but you when you look at you, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Lebron James, Lebron James stands up for his community fast,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. He steps out there. So I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was a perfect Lament James for lemon cake. It's perfect

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<v Speaker 1>right there, So don't shy away from that. Michael Jordan's great,

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<v Speaker 1>But Lamar and James community and great, okay. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy at the at the Palm restaurant, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a carrot cake man the order. It's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>slice I've ever seen in my life. So I always

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<v Speaker 1>go there and get my huge carrot cake. But see

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>now that I can order my carrot cake online from

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<v Speaker 1>a man brother bakes dot com. Tell us about the

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<v Speaker 1>Mariah carry which is a tribute to a tribute to

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<v Speaker 1>Mariah Carry. Well talked about that one. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>my carrot cake. Um, true story. I was never a

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<v Speaker 1>saying of carrot cake. Now, come on, nae, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>come on now. I love carry I got some carrots

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and I got some shredded carrots in my refrigerator right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I love carriage man. Yeah, well, you know, I just didn't.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't picture carrot and cake at the same time

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>until I tried it. And oh man, I really like

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 1>carry cake. So when it came for me to, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have another flavor other than you know, the

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>ones I already had, I tried to excuse me. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried carry take came up with a recipe that I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked, and yeah, I'm hooked. It's probably my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>one right now. Never see on the same page. Now

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<v Speaker 1>see Mark, you're good people. Now, you're good people. Now okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna close out. Thank you. My brother

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>thingy but Eustonian man, you know as I saw you know,

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<v Speaker 1>used to chronicle. I say, I gotta get a man

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio podcast. I'm gonna promote you on my

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<v Speaker 1>social media, put you my newsletter. All that from an article.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's important that you promote your brand because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know who's gonna read it, who's gonna see it.

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, that article got you over here, that

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>ad got you on next Insurance, all those things and

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>what you have to do to build a brand. It's

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<v Speaker 1>never like because some people think you get on TV

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<v Speaker 1>one time, that might make it. You get on the

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<v Speaker 1>radio either that might. You have to do it all Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what you you didn't hesitate to, have to

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of this opportunity to promote your brain. And

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I always know that that's it. You know, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you get on Steve Already Facebook live show, get on

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<v Speaker 1>adding an open call, you do open you know another

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>talk show called just keep doing more and more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I always tell people if Chick fil A decided

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<v Speaker 1>to stop advertising, people will dry about check fil a

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and wonder what happened. You cannot stop Costco has advertised

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Walmart has to advertise talking half the advertisee. Because they

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>stopped sending out those little circulars. My friend, people will

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<v Speaker 1>stop entering their stores. Now here's the I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this one thing on your homepage because I

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<v Speaker 1>like to be a part of this here, sir, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called the raves and reviews. Now, okay, the raves and

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>reviews have people initial Okay, I have no problem when

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I sample your product today, sir, I have no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You're putting my full name on here. Okay, you know

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<v Speaker 1>because I see right here, J L, Q L and kJ.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be sampling today. I'm gonna be taking some

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<v Speaker 1>all those I'll be putting it on my social media.

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll be putting into my newsletter. I'll be promoting the

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<v Speaker 1>brand of brother brother breaks dot com. It's b R

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<v Speaker 1>O th h A b A k e s dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>My my friend, I want to thank you for taking

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<v Speaker 1>the time to come on Money Making Conversation. Let me

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you a story, let me tell your life. And

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<v Speaker 1>they also let people know that if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>dream and you have a passion, learn how to pivot.

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<v Speaker 1>Pivot with a plan. Because he told you about one

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>mistake he made because he didn't plan it out. But

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>he also told you that he never stops trying. He

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>never stopped putting forth an effort to be successful. Any

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<v Speaker 1>closing remarks, Mark, I just want to say to people, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. You know, Um, this has been a

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<v Speaker 1>god bless I talked to people all the time and

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<v Speaker 1>they they're always talking about how you did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>just went for it and real quick. You know, everybody

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>has a dream. You're currently not doing your dream, so

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>why not give it a try. If it works out, great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if it doesn't, then you're still not living

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<v Speaker 1>your dream. But if it does happen and then it

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<v Speaker 1>changes your life, cool, That's all I got. I appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I want to thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. You and like you'll be here from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Photos are coming your way, rave, reviews are coming your way,

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<v Speaker 1>Promotions coming your way. Tell your boys to keep listening

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<v Speaker 1>to dad, and keep listening to mom. And tell your

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<v Speaker 1>wife high because she allowed you to live your dream.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what you're gonna pay off in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, because I know she's helping you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on my show. Mark, Thank you sir for

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