1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry to keep everyone waiting here running you know, 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: a few minutes behind this morning, so UM, appreciate your patience. UM. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, uh we're winding down here. UM. You know 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: on training camp. Sunday is actually the last uh you know, 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: official day at camp. UM you know, roster Uh decisions 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: are in the on the very near horizon. UH. So 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: we'll be ready to you know work through that, um 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, in the next uh day hours. Uh So 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: that's that's a process still obviously trying to get the 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: team ready and continue to make progress towards being ready 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: for the not only the Miami game, but the you know, 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: entire regular season. So, UM, I have a few balls 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: in the air here, but I think the players have 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: continued to you know, push through it and um and 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, we we're making progress. We just gotta just 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: gotta keep stacking these days together. UM. You know, last 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: night was a you know, good night for the team, 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: good night for the organization, for the kickoff event, and 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: uh it always gives us the feeling that things are 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: getting closer. And you know, congratulations to David for his um, 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, great um unselfish off the field work and 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: volunteerism um for the organization. He's been a tremendous addition 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: to our team for the last six years. So UM 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: it's great to have him back after the time they 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: missed last year. So UM, just trying to like I said, 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: just trying to you know, finish up some uh final 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: training camp, UM, things that are on our list and 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: with the roster, and then uh quickly transition into um Miami, 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: some of which we've already started on, but we'll be 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: in full you know, full game preparation mode. Um, you know, 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: once we turned the corner this weekend. So looking forward 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: to getting started and UM, well let's try to keep 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: having good days here. We'll start with Ben Vaughan, Folt, Me, 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Doug Knning, Bill where came out yesterday that Cam Newton 35 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: was named the starter. Just um, what have you seen 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: from him throughout camp? And yeah, yeah, I'm not we're 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: not naming any We're not naming any starters in any positions. 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: So UM, you know, any any conversations that I have 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: with a team will stay between me and the team. 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: But we're not we're not naming any any roster starters 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: or positions or who's on the team or anything else 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: like that so well, sorry, I have to bypass that one. Okay, 43 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: let me ask you a quick follow up about Cam. Obviously, 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: over the years, he's a he's a big, physical player, 45 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: pretty rare size for a quarterback. Last couple of seasons 46 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: he's had some injuries. Just what's your confidence level of 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: his physicality and him being able to withstand three years 48 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: of the sixteen game schedule. Well, he's he's certainly been 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: a you know, a durable player. Um. You know, the 50 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: injury last year was, you know, one of those kind 51 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: of foot ankle injuries that um we've seen takedown players. 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's a tough injury and UM, but so far, 53 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: i'd say, you know, he's been out there. Um, the 54 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: exception of one day where he was excused for personal reasons, 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: he's been out there every day. He's been able to 56 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: participate in everything. So you know, he's healthy. It looks 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: like he's ready to go. But it's you know, it's 58 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: a long season. Anything could happen to anybody. We all 59 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: know that. So we'll see how goes. Our next question 60 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: to Tie followed by Mark Daniels. Come morning, Bille just 61 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: wet wanted to into the decision to name, Cam Newton 62 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: is an offensive captain and how have you seen teammates 63 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: respond to him? Yeah, it wasn't a decision. M. The 64 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: captains are voted on by UM the team, and players 65 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: that they elected are the players that they obviously want 66 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: to want to represent them in various capacities that come 67 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: with those positions. So, UM, I think we have a 68 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: lot of good leaders on our team. UM, some of 69 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: them have been selected captains. I don't think that necessarily 70 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: takes away from the leadership that UM many other players bring. 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: And we get leadership from certainly other players and other 72 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: areas of our team that you know don't show up 73 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: in the with the captain designation. UM. But we've had 74 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: a long, you know, long history and a great roster 75 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: of of captains here and and UM, I think that 76 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: the players that were selected this year I have all 77 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: displayed UM very impressive leadership qualities and are obviously well 78 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: respected by their teammates on both sides of the ball. 79 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: And I think they're all good selections. But you know 80 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: that the leadership certainly extends past those positions, past the 81 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: captain position, and it always has and I'm sure I 82 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: always will here. So I appreciate the leadership we get 83 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: from everyone, and I'm looking forward to working with this 84 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: year's group, which has a couple of new faces in 85 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: it and some other captains that have been here for 86 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: an extended period of time. So it's a good group. 87 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: We've already, you know, had some opportunities to get together, 88 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: so I look forward to the relationship with those guys 89 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: in that capacity. My next question, Mark Daniels falled by 90 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: chisholmn hey Bill. Yesterday the team released Mohammed's newdstone. What 91 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: went into the decision to part ways with the Vetteran, Yeah, 92 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those things that just 93 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: didn't work out. You know, I have a lot of 94 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: respect from mo Um, but ultimately it just, you know, 95 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: things just didn't work out. I think he tried very hard. 96 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: I think we tried hard. UM. I don't think it 97 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: was any anybody's fault or anything like that. It was 98 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: just one of those situations that it just didn't didn't 99 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: work out as well as I think everyone hoped it 100 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: would have. When Um, when the transaction was made, so 101 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: UM as always, well, we'll try to make the decisions 102 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: that we feel our best for the football team. UM well, 103 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: that's bringing a person in or or releasing a player. Uh, 104 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, obviously you can go both ways, and so um, 105 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: at this point in time, we felt like that's best 106 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: for the team, and last year we felt differently. Um, 107 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: we're learning a little different situation this year. Thank you. Yeah, 108 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: you're welcome. Kara Sultan falled by even Kerr. Thank you. Um. 109 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: But as you do turn the corner kind of towards 110 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: the right season, would you would you be able to 111 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: pause even for a minute to sort of think about 112 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: the perspective. I know every season is different for you, 113 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: but just given all the circumstances surrounding this one, the 114 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: virus protocols, new quarterback things like that, does it feel 115 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: even more different than seasons in the past. Well, I 116 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: think you said it. Every season is different, and we're 117 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: focused on right now is is trying to put ourselves 118 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: in the best position for the two twenty seasons. So 119 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, what happened in two thousand and three or 120 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: nine or fourteen or fifteen or whatever, you know, I 121 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: don't really I mean there were some lessons learning through 122 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: the years, of course, but really I don't think those 123 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: have any bearing on on what happens this year. We 124 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: have a different group of players, we have different challenges, 125 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: and we have to identify and recognize the best way 126 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: to maximize our opportunities as a football team in two 127 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: and twenty. That's on the field, off the field, offense, defense, 128 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: special teams, coaches, players, practice squad you know, and the 129 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: rules change every year a little bit in one way 130 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: or another and some uh in some aspect of whether 131 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: it's personnel rules or playing rules or whatever it might be. 132 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: So that's just all part of the game. Um. We 133 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: control the things that we can control and work on 134 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: the areas that we need to work on to improve 135 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: and to be competitive and to make a difference. And 136 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: so that's what we'll continue to do. So I don't 137 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'll let you compare one year to another. Really, 138 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm just focused on this year and in particular how 139 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: to make the best decisions and do the best thing 140 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: that I can to help our team over the you know, 141 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: the upcoming days and every day is important. We want 142 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: to take advantage each one. But you know, definitely the 143 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: you know, roster decisions and composition of the team and 144 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, other potential player movement throughout the league. I 145 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: mean there's going to be you know, over a thousand, 146 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: well over a thousand players that are going to be 147 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: UM have some kind of transaction, uh in the next 148 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: next you know, a couple of days, and so there'll 149 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: be some opportunities there and you know, we'll try to 150 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: evaluate those and and do what do what's best for 151 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: the team. My next question Aidan Kern, called by Mike 152 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: Reece morn bill um curious with practice squads expanding his 153 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: sixteen players, how that affects your team building strategy and 154 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to either adding or moving players in 155 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: the practice squad, do you give preference to I'm most 156 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: talented the practice squad or do you do you prefer 157 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: to add players with more familiarity than might already be 158 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: on the team currently that might not make the fifty 159 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: three man Yeah. Well that's a great question on the 160 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: practice squad and I think it really, uh Ad, And 161 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: I think it really Each situation is different, each player 162 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: is different. UM. I think when you put a player 163 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, I mean, first of all, there's 164 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: a reason why he's on there, UM, and that could 165 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: be a number of different things. He could be a 166 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: developmental player, he could be a player that, as you said, 167 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: knows your system and maybe is more game ready than 168 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: somebody else. Uh. It may be a player that because 169 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: of the depth on your fifty three man roster, that 170 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: you really need that player to practice. That you need 171 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: that that practice squad player to participate in practice so 172 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: that you can maintain the quality of practice that you 173 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: want the best you can, so that you can prepare 174 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: your team for all the things that you need to 175 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: prepare him for. So um, you know it's as you know, 176 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: those those some of those positions can fluctuate during the 177 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: course of the year depending on how the team needs 178 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: um uh you know how how those um change and 179 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: possibly how the players change. For example, if a developmental 180 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: player starts to improve and developed and his his situation 181 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: might change a little bit. Or if you have a 182 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: developmental player that maybe isn't developing and you feel like 183 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: you've given enough time and you don't see the progress 184 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: that maybe you hope for, then you know, sometimes then 185 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: you could move on to somebody else and work with 186 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: another development player. So again, the bottom line is there's 187 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: a reason and a purpose for each player to be 188 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: on that on the practice squad, but they're not all 189 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: the same, and it would depend on a number of 190 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: factors that are specific to the individual player, but also 191 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: the needs of the team and the depth of the team, 192 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: and you know your practice needs. So it's say some 193 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of combination of all those in a quick fault 194 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: if you don't mind. With the fickle nature of this 195 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: upcoming season, with the potential for any player to go 196 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: on the COVID lists at any moment, do you see 197 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: the practice squad trending more towards a developmental style player 198 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: more towards a game ready veteran style player. Yeah, again, 199 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: I think there's a place for both. It would depend 200 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: on you know, again, a lot of the practice squad 201 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: depends on you know, what you have on your fifty 202 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: three man roster, and so you can't really carry the 203 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: depth that you want on your fifty three man roster 204 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: at all positions, but you probably are will probably be 205 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: fairly satisfied with it at some positions. So if you're 206 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: satisfied with your depth at a certain position and your 207 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: numbers are good and you feel like the quality is 208 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: pretty good there, then I don't know how much you 209 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: really need a practice squad player at that spot, because 210 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: you'll want to give those reps in practice and those 211 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: opportunities to the depth that you have on your roster, 212 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: whereas there could be another position on your roster where 213 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of depth, and if you 214 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: have a developmental player at that position and a player 215 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: with some experience that maybe for whatever reason, you don't 216 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: feel as a roster player at this moment, but if 217 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: something were to happen because your lack of depth, he 218 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: could quickly become a roster player. Then you know, you 219 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: might carry two or three players at that position and 220 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: none at another UM. So a lot of the practice 221 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: squad is dependent on what what you have above that 222 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: on your fifty three man roster. UM. I think this 223 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: year is a little bit different because we'll have to 224 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: take into consideration the shorter UH Injured Reserve rules and 225 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: also the unlimited um DFRS, so you know that that 226 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: changes things a little bit too, and is can kind 227 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: of be combined with the practice squad to um you know, 228 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: help the team's depth. So it's it's really a combination 229 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: of all those and again, because it's so fluid, I'm 230 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: sure that that will change over the course of the year, 231 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: so as as your needs change on the team that 232 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: that will affect I think it will probably affect your 233 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: practice squad decisions as well. Now you know, the practice 234 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: squad pool is going to be a little watered down 235 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: when you add those extra players that the teams are 236 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: able to have. It'll be interesting to see how many 237 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: practice squad players this year. So in the past, there've 238 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: been a certain group of players that have been excluded 239 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: from practice squad because they're eligible, they haven't been eligible. 240 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: This year. The eligibility rules have changed, and it'll be 241 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: interesting to see whether that, you know, brings more of 242 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: those type of players in there, the ones who would 243 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: have been ineligible in other years, or whether it would 244 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: be more of a continuation of let's call it practice 245 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: squad eligible guys, younger players with less experience and so forth. 246 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know. I'm sure again though, 247 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be both. There'll be some variants from 248 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: team to team and position a position and will be 249 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: based on the fifty three needs above it. But I 250 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting to see how how all that 251 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: plays out. So again, when we we put a player 252 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, it's for a reason, it's with 253 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: a purpose. Um and that could be for a variety 254 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: of things, but you know he would fill some type 255 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: of UM need or potential need that that's what his 256 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: role would be. Great. Thanks Bill, Yeah, you're welcome. I'll 257 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: apologize to those we don't get too, but we're gonna 258 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: try to squeeze in one maybe two final questions Micrease, 259 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: followed by opicos for ahead Mink. Thanks, what is your 260 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: view of the competition at Kicker as we get close 261 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: to crunch time here and setting the initial Austin, Yeah, 262 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: I think that that UM, you know, is a pretty 263 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: close gap, and you know, it's it's a similar decision. 264 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I think that every team that I've ever been on UM, 265 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: it has come up where you have a veteran player 266 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: UM with experience and and you know, very accomplished career 267 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: with a younger player with potentially a long career ahead 268 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: of him that has less experience and may at this 269 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: particular point in time, you know, you just have to 270 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: see where you know, where you feel like the competition is, 271 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: but then also look at and say, okay, well where 272 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: things going to be halfway through the season, where things 273 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: going to be a year from now or maybe two 274 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: years from now, and so that then that changes sometimes 275 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: the evaluation others are projections and there's no certainty there. 276 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: But you know, when you look at players that we've 277 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: had on a team. You know, James White would be 278 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: a good example of a player that didn't play his 279 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: rookie year. I think he was only active for a 280 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: game or two. You know, obviously Brady never played. So 281 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: if you evaluate some players where they are at one 282 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: point in time and then evaluate them a year later, 283 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: sometimes you can have a drastic change change in and 284 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: you know, those two cases, I'm glad we didn't, you know, 285 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: make the decision based on where they were at the 286 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: end of their rookie training camp to not have them 287 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: on our on our team on a longer term view. 288 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: So now not everybody falls into that category, but I'm saying, 289 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: like there's two good examples. You know, Shane Vereen would 290 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: be another one, you know, but guys that that didn't 291 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: have production at one point in time, but then in 292 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: a relatively short period of time that changed, maybe unexpectedly, 293 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: maybe unexpectedly, So we'll just have to you know, those 294 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: are the kind of decisions that you make when you have, 295 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: you know, a very experienced player versus a rookie, I 296 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: think obviously when the rookie at a particular position. I'm 297 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: not saying this is the case with a kicker. I'm 298 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: saying generically, if if you have a rookie who's already 299 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: moved ahead of a player with a lot of experience, 300 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: and you have every reason to think that the rookie 301 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: will continue to improve, then that's, you know, a pretty 302 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: straightforward decision, that's pretty easy. But it's the other way 303 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: around where those two lines are going to cross at 304 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: some point between you know, the experienced guy you know 305 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: coming close to the end of his career and the 306 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: inexperienced guy you know, ascending to a higher level, Like 307 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: when and how does that happen? And you know, position 308 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: as a factor. Again, this is not like you can 309 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: carry you know, seven defensive lineman. This is a kicker. 310 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: So you know, you that decision is a little bit 311 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: different than it is at at some other spots where 312 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: you can play more than one guy, but it's fundamentally 313 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: it's it's still that I can remember those conversations going 314 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: back to nineteen seventy five when I was with the 315 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Colts and coach Marcha Brota. It was the same thing. 316 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Then it was you know, this guy with experience versus 317 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: this guy with inexperience, and and I didn't not really 318 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: understand it at that point, but you know, at that 319 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: point in time, the experience guy was in those conversations 320 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: was always better. But then in the long run that 321 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, that wasn't always the case, as I cited 322 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: with a couple of our examples. So it's a really 323 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: tough question, Mike, and it's really challenging for I think 324 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: every coach, every team. Um it's not like college where 325 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: you're going to have all the players all the time. 326 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Here you have to make choices. You can't keep them 327 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: all um and and you know you've got to You've 328 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: got to make a decision based on you know, in 329 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: either way you could be you could be right you 330 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: when you make that decision, either way you know you 331 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: could be you could be right or you could be wrong, 332 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: depending on you know, how fast or slow those those 333 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: tangents pass. It's a great question though, that that's the 334 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: hardest part of this time of years, those type of decisions. 335 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: My apologies to go ahead. We can tell you, Bob 336 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: Stacy jize for being late. So I owe you one here. Okay, 337 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: since Bob was it, maybe you know, we'll give give 338 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: a little bit exs for preferential treatment for that. I 339 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: appreciate that, and it's great to see another midshipment in 340 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: house with the bats, you know, build this time of 341 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: year today normally would be the day after the preseason 342 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: and finality, not only would you have tape of all 343 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: the players around the league from the preseason, but maybe 344 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: after the fourth and final game there would be a 345 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: sense of who might become available tomorrow on cutdown day. 346 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious how much not having that complicates the process 347 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: for your pro staff in the next twenty four to 348 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: forty eight hours making anticipation of who might be out 349 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: there and secondly associated with that, well, let me let 350 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: me let me take that. Let me take that one first, Bob, 351 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: and then we'll come back to follow up. But that 352 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: that's a really good question that you just asked, and 353 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: and I would say this year, for a couple of reasons, 354 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: things are different than they normally are. I identified the 355 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: situation that exactly the way you described it, the fourth 356 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: preseason game would have been last night. And you know, 357 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: now we're sitting here making you know, decisions and all 358 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: that and who's going to be available. I think the 359 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: one of the a couple of wild cards this year 360 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: are really unknowns are number one, the fact that every 361 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: player is eligible for the practice squad is that's a 362 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: big change because in the past, if you release a 363 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: player that wasn't practice squad eligible, you know, you know 364 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: that that player would be available, and honestly, that player 365 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: would probably you know nine, would want to would want 366 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: to play on a roster with the practice squad. I 367 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: think there's an argument for a player to, you know, 368 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: do you want to be on a practice squad knowing 369 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: that you're very close to playing on a team in 370 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: a situation that you know and you're comfortable with, versus 371 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, going to another team where as soon as 372 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: they find somebody better, they might want to replace you 373 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: with somebody else. So again, it'll be interesting to see 374 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: how many of the practice squad spots go to those players. 375 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: So when you say are available, I'm not sure that 376 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: even though it's the same guys that might be available 377 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: this year from last year, just say hypothetically he took 378 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: last year's guys that were all available. If all those 379 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: guys actually would have been available in this set of rules, 380 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: and especially with a three week R situation, I think 381 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: the practice squad, if you have an experienced player on 382 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: the practice squad, it's a lot easier to get them up. 383 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: You know, you have those couple free activations, you have 384 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: a three week R rule. So I think that might 385 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, change a little bit. The other part of 386 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: that is, I think all the teams, the other thirty 387 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: one teams are probably sitting there just like we are saying, 388 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: I haven't really seen you know, as much of this 389 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: guys what we normally would just a tough decision, like 390 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: without seeing a player play who doesn't have a lot 391 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: of experience, Like how confident really are you that he's 392 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: better than somebody else that you've seen play. Now, again, 393 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: there's some examples that are clear cut, but there's other 394 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: ones that are gray. And there's other ones where the 395 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: veteran players have I would say, probably clearly played better 396 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: than the rookies. But again, these guys haven't even played 397 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: a game yet, so it's not a fair evaluation. Yet. 398 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: That's were the ones we have to make, and so 399 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: I legitimately think that you know, we're in this situation. 400 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: I imagine a lot of other teams are too that 401 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: we don't really know exactly what we're gonna do because 402 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: we have so much less evidence in than we would 403 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: have from three preseason games. I think a lot of 404 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: times in preseason, you know, you feel like after three games, 405 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: all right, I got a pretty good idea where this 406 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: guy is. There's another preseason game. Now, maybe something will 407 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: really change here based on the fourth preseason game. But 408 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: I would say more often than not, it doesn't change significantly, 409 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: and where you were at the end of three weeks 410 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: is probably where you are at the end of the 411 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: fourth game. Not always, but generally speaking, that's probably more 412 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: true than it's not. So I think the variables this 413 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: year lead to more uncertainty there. There are a few 414 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: players that I feel confident are that we can identify 415 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: that will be available, but I think there are going 416 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: to be a whole lot more that when the rosters 417 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: are turned in on Saturday that I don't want to 418 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: say there's surprises, but you know, there will be some 419 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: people there, and it will be interesting to see how 420 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: teams handle this rookies versus you know, experienced players. You 421 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: know the type of I don't know dilemma is the 422 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: right word, but you know choice that they're going to 423 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: have to make. So and again that's a great question. 424 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: It's there's a lot less shopping of players, I would 425 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: say this year than what there would normally be, where 426 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: teams could anticipate the way it was going to go, 427 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: Like you could kind of tell what other teams we're 428 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: going to do, you know, for most roster spots, and 429 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: you kind of knew who was available, and you know 430 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: if a team was going to release a player, they'd 431 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: rather trade him and get something for him than release 432 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: him and not get anything. So I would say it 433 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: was a little more defined. Now, maybe that'll change in 434 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: the next you know, twenty four hours. It might, but 435 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: let's say that's where we are for now. So I'm sorry. 436 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: So the follow up up, well, try to make this 437 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: one was quicker. To make this one quicker? Elliott Wolf 438 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: has been with two other organizations. He's evaluated player personnel 439 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: for the Packers, for the Browns doesn't help toward what 440 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: you just talked about. To have somebody now on your 441 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: staff that can bring that perspective and knowledge of the 442 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: veteran players around the league to add to what you 443 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: already have in the house. Um, sure. I think it's 444 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: always it's always good to have a different perspective on that. UM. 445 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: You know, the you know, people that have been here 446 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: for you know, extended period of time, which some of 447 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: them are no longer here this year, many of them 448 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: still are. But you know, guys that have been here 449 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: for a long time have a very good understanding of, 450 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, what we're looking for, how we do certain things, 451 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: what the process is. And uh, you know, maybe players 452 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: like this we've already talked about before and have either 453 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: liked or disliked for similar reasons. You know, you don't 454 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: have that history with people that are new to the organization. 455 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: It takes a little time to build that up. So 456 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: that's that's sort of the time that we're working through. 457 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: But as you identified, the plus side of it is, 458 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, when you come from a different organization, especially 459 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, UM or two organizations in the last couple 460 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: of years, I have a you know, fairly recent background 461 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: of other philosophies, other ways of doing things. Uh, you know, 462 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: certainly he's been able to help me in terms of 463 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, take a look at this, here's the way 464 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: we did this. H you know, it might be something 465 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: that we've tried and we don't want to do it 466 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: that way, or it might be something that's uh no, 467 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: I hadn't really looked at it that way. You know, 468 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good idea. So you know, it's it's 469 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: good to generate new ideas like that. I think, uh, 470 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: you know Jetfish has done that. Uh you know, similar 471 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: thing on offense is, you know, brought in some new 472 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: ideas and things that we weren't familiar with at the 473 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: same time dedicating the majority of their time to understanding 474 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: learning what we do do so that you know, they 475 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: know how those those type of things apply. And uh, 476 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, some of the other new people in the organization, 477 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: whether it be you know, uh, you know, Vinny or 478 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: Joe or you know, other people like that, guys like that. 479 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's some of that from everybody too, 480 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: but um, you know, it's good to have uh, you know, 481 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: a new perspective. It's also obviously very good to work 482 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: with people who have been here for a sustained period 483 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: of time that have a lot of experience in our organization, 484 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: in our system that haven't you know, intimate knowledge of 485 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, how all the inner workings are. And so 486 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: I think that's a good and to have. Um, you know, 487 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: both ways, well, thanks so much, appreciate it. Yeah, welcome. 488 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: You very much for taking the extra time. We all 489 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um. That was that was very nice bonus there. 490 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Okay, yep, we're welcome. Thanks,