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Speaker 3: Pull question.

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Speaker 2: Our two is going to be what seat no Connor?

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Speaker 2: Our two is going to be Jaden Daniels related. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you are Jadendaniels, you dot dot dot are happy

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Speaker 2: to go to the commanders or hope someone trades up

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Speaker 2: for you. Well, the reason why this is kind of

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Speaker 2: bubbling right now, First of all, we don't have that

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Speaker 2: headline heading into Draft night on Thursday night. We assume

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is going to go number one, Drake May

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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels number two. Then the other one will go three.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy will probably be in there. Somebody will trade

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Speaker 2: up to four or five. Michael Pennix. It feels like

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Speaker 2: is gaining momentum. Bo Nicks might be dropping a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But as far as drama here, not a lot, but

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Speaker 2: it feels like there's the potential for some drama that

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Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels, or at least his representatives, have presented

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Speaker 2: the possibility that he's upset that the Commander's brought in

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Speaker 2: four quarterbacks on the same day to work out if

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Speaker 2: I'm the number two overall pick. I don't want these

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Speaker 2: other players coming in and if I'm not the number

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Speaker 2: two pick overall.

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Speaker 3: This was last Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: The store story started to come out because you brought

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Speaker 2: in these quarterbacks?

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Speaker 3: Are the commanders not sure right now?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: I like that they're doing their due diligence. It makes

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Speaker 2: me nervous that they're still doing their due diligence. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Bears have decided on Caleb Williams. There's no drama there.

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Speaker 2: People have tried to manufacture stories. Oh he didn't want

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Speaker 2: to go there. Certainly sounds like he wants to go there.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he was on the Pivot podcast and had

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Speaker 2: this to say.

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Speaker 5: Now that I want to play at one place for

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Speaker 5: twenty years and chase one guy number twelve. I want

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Speaker 5: to place that loves ball, you know. That's all I've

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Speaker 5: heard about is Chicago so far, which is exciting for

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Speaker 5: me because LA was great, but there is probably double

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Speaker 5: digits of teams here.

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Speaker 3: It's a big.

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Speaker 5: Pool of you know, so you have to be winning championships,

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Speaker 5: you have to be playoffs every year to have you know,

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Speaker 5: the fans and things like that show up. And so

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Speaker 5: one thing, you know, if it was Chicago's a place

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Speaker 5: that I've heard that they love ball, which is really

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Speaker 5: exciting for me. It's something that I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 5: and embracing.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: If the Commanders had the number one pick, he'd probably

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Speaker 2: say all the same things. Man, they love ball here.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to go there. I'm going to chase

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Speaker 2: number twelve, Tom Brady, but saying all the right things.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just surprised if you get a once in

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Speaker 3: That I find surprising.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've had teams go up to number two,

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Speaker 2: but going up to number one that you know, you

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Speaker 2: far as draft picks, and then you say is it

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Speaker 2: worth it? It's almost like it might be worth it,

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Speaker 2: You don't want to give up everything you have, all

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Speaker 2: then you can't help him out. But as far as

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Speaker 2: I look at DraftKings, they had odds of who was

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Speaker 2: flip flopping a little bit here because they're not quite

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Speaker 2: sure what Washington's going to do. But we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: Tom pelsero NFL Network Insider about this, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of times the agents start to get involved. Now then

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Speaker 2: Somebody is saying something about somebody, or you could be

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Speaker 2: saying something about somebody else's talent. Somebody else's player and

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Speaker 2: trying to get somebody to fall. GM's scouts sometimes will

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Speaker 2: leak something out there. You know, I'm here and I'll

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Speaker 2: go back to the NBA draft. On the night of

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Speaker 2: the NBA Draft, I had an agent come up to

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Speaker 2: And I go, yeah, I'm sure he does. He goes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious where Brandon Roy is. I said, well, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the knees. I go, well, what

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Speaker 2: So I said to Billis, I said, hey, ran into

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Speaker 2: then I think BILLI said, yeah, I think most people

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Speaker 2: Roy was a really good player but a short period

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Speaker 2: of time and had bad knees. But you get that

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Speaker 2: haven't heard about and then they'll give you something along

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Speaker 2: the lines of you should keep an eye on this.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of it is gossip. A lot of

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Speaker 2: it is to you know, ulterior motives. Nobody's being altruistic

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Speaker 2: to help me host the NBA Draft. It was, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, you might put that out there that Brandon

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Speaker 2: Roy turned out. I think he was Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 2: was a really good player, but then didn't last long.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, I'm looking back at some old draft coverage

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Speaker 6: and remember when Blake Bortles was taken by the Jaguars.

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Speaker 6: I think third overall, I'm looking at the draft, but

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Speaker 6: people are shocked on the set. I think one of

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Speaker 6: the analyst says, he was not in our plans at

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Speaker 6: all for them. They didn't even bring him in for

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Speaker 6: an interview. They didn't work him out. They hid Blake Bortles.

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Speaker 6: They had planned on him the whole time and talked

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Speaker 6: nothing about him. It's the thing you don't expect that

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Speaker 6: could happen. That's the best part about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, we had him on after the draft and we

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Speaker 2: were just talking about, you know, how did that process

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Speaker 3: That's when you were allowed to.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm going to use quotations to ask these

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable questions with your potential draft picks there.

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Speaker 3: But he did.

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Speaker 2: He started out well and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: he sort of became who we thought he was. But

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Speaker 2: I remember, hey, would they go after Johnny Manzil? You know,

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Speaker 2: there was all this speculation and Jacksonville didn't tell anybody anything,

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Speaker 2: and then people had to go, wait, he'd play it

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Speaker 3: Wait where did he play?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Everybody was scrammed because they're not thinking Blake Bortles is

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Speaker 2: going to go number three overall?

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Speaker 3: Didn't he throw thirty five touchdowns?

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Speaker 6: What a weird career. His second year in the league,

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Speaker 6: he was had thirty five touchdown passes, then got worse.

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Speaker 6: But was it? Was it twenty seventeen they almost made

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl with.

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Speaker 3: Him when they lost to the Patriots.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that Miles jack play or they.

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Speaker 3: Should have won, They should have gone to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty seventeen, they were two and one in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: He had three touchdowns and no picks and they almost

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Speaker 6: went to the Super Bowl. His career was had one

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Speaker 6: more year. Basically, oh it is that a weird career.

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Speaker 2: But you didn't interview him like, you didn't work him out.

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Speaker 2: You didn't want to let anybody know anything. Sometimes you

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Speaker 2: can outsmart yourself, all right, Pole question for hour two

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Speaker 2: is what see o Connor? Yeah, we're gonna go with

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Speaker 2: Jaydeen Daniels. Are you happy to go with the Commanders

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Speaker 2: or would you hope somebody trades up for you? Well,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a relationship with Antonio Pearce from Arizona

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Speaker 2: kind of trying to connect the dots of hey, what

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Speaker 2: about the Raiders? Well, what do the Raiders have to

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Speaker 2: give up to go up to number two? And you

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Speaker 2: know Tom Pelsara will set a straight on this, but

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm wondering. Do the Raiders do they want

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Speaker 2: go up and get him? And you kind of have

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Speaker 2: to go to two because if you go to three,

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Speaker 2: what happens if the Commanders go uh, I think we're

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Speaker 3: You got to go up make sure you get your guy.

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Speaker 3: It's like the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings, Okay, they got two first round picks, they're

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Speaker 2: going to go up and get Okay, you're fine with

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Speaker 2: getting the fourth quarterback there, getting JJ McCarthy. But even

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Speaker 2: what Sean Payton said last week, and I say this

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Speaker 2: every draft, don't get a quarterback. Get your quarterback, because

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Speaker 2: if you go into that, I remember the Bengals took

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Speaker 2: Achille Smith, a nice player at Oregon, but it's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got to get our quarterback, and Achille Smith wasn't

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Speaker 2: a good NFL quarterback. Hey we got a quarterback, Get

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Speaker 2: your quarterback. And I think that's what Sean Payton. Keep

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Speaker 2: in mind, when the Broncos brought in Sean Payton, they

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Speaker 2: had to give up a second round draft pick. I believe,

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Speaker 2: so they don't have that second round pick this year

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Speaker 2: you're trying to get a quarterback. It might you might

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Speaker 2: prevent them from getting a quarterback because you can't trade

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Speaker 2: your second round draft pick here. But it feels like

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton and the Broncos now should be a player.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos uniforms are being released today, they're dropping today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: have you seen any Have there been any leaks here?

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Speaker 6: There's been a little purposeful leakage. Is it like to say,

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Speaker 6: you can't really see the stripes, it's all about the stripe.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a problem that you have. What are you

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Speaker 2: suffering from purposeful leaking.

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Speaker 6: After four hours? No, I haven't seen anything. I saw

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Speaker 6: some helmets, but it may have been one of those

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Speaker 6: bait things where they try to put out a fake count.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who puts out a uniform where you go, oh

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Speaker 3: my god.

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of it is you know, you're sort

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Speaker 2: of working in the context of what your uniforms look like.

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Speaker 2: Unless it's those throwbacks from the nineteen forties when the

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Speaker 2: Packers would have those or the Bears. All right, those

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Speaker 2: are unique, But I'm talking about your every every week uniforms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, palling.

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Speaker 3: There are these the gold pants? The yellow pants?

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Speaker 3: This Vince Ferragamo, Yeah, the Faragama era.

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Speaker 3: It is Ferragamo, Garoppolo before Garoppolo.

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Speaker 2: And I still think the Rams are taking a quarterback high. No,

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Speaker 6: Yes. So the Broncos are an interesting case study because

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Speaker 6: it makes you think their uniforms are better than they were.

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Speaker 3: They were horrible, no drama in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yet it's almost like uniforms don't impact how you win

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Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You don't think did you ever play better when you

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Speaker 2: I do believe there is a whole like look good,

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Speaker 3: I do believe that.

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Speaker 2: I can remember my senior year in high school and

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Speaker 6: I always thought that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers couldn't win

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Speaker 2: But they they won it with Brady, didn't. They have

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Speaker 2: kind of the same uniform.

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Speaker 6: There, kind of a little more orangey.

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Speaker 2: If they went back, you'd have to go cream sickle

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Speaker 6: The Jets new uniforms aren't really new, they're just repaired.

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Speaker 6: They're less awful, but they look more like eighties Jets uniform.

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Speaker 2: We're still trying to fix the Eagles. They got to

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Speaker 2: they need to they need to have Harold Carmichael Green back.

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Speaker 3: Yes, time, is that the Kelly green?

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Speaker 6: Is that the color that they referred to them?

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Speaker 6: The current Eagles colors are midnight green, black, white and silver. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: done work, big mess, No done a team? Yeah that

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Speaker 2: They had better green? Scott and Ohio, Hi, Scott, what's

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Speaker 7: Day? Good morning? How you guys doing great? Scott fantastic?

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Speaker 7: Got a stand of the day for you?

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Speaker 3: All right? Marvin hit the music.

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Speaker 7: Three players in NBA against Green were Scoring champ and

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Scott, well done here? Yeah, Mike did it

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Speaker 2: what eight or nine times? Every year that he won

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Speaker 3: Kobe? Kobe did it twice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. We'll talk some football.

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Speaker 2: With Tom Pelsero. Why haven't the Bears announced that Caleb

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the Duke story unfold right before our very eyes.

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Speaker 2: Their roster is changing rapidly and another transfer there.

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Speaker 2: It's changing now. I don't know if they would have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they got one player's transferring to Baylor

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Speaker 2: But having somebody tell me what these kids ask for

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Speaker 3: No, because they have two to one and donners coming in.

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Speaker 9: enough movie hearts here things can change. But I would

437
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Speaker 9: certainly say the most likely scenario when you talk to

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Speaker 9: people within the league is Jadeningals goes number two and.

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Speaker 2: You know how this works. We're looking for a story.

440
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you create more of a story than there's really there.

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Speaker 2: Does Jade and Daniels want to go there? Was he

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Speaker 2: bothered that they brought in all these quarterbacks on the

443
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Speaker 2: same day to work out. And I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's what's real or not in this situation, but I

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Speaker 2: got a factor in Antonio Pierce's relationship with Jayden Daniels

446
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Speaker 2: going back to Arizona State. I think that's real. I

447
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Speaker 2: just don't know do the Raiders have enough? Well, first

448
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Speaker 2: of all, would the commanders be willing to listen? And

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Speaker 2: do the Raiders have enough to move up to number two?

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Speaker 9: I can tell you the teams that have called Washington,

451
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Speaker 9: and this goes back to the Combine.

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Speaker 8: This goes back to last month.

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Speaker 9: Every time people have called watched it about number two,

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Speaker 9: the answer has been, yeah, we're probably keeping the pick.

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Speaker 9: Now is there some type of an offer of you know,

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Speaker 9: Mike Ditkis style, here's our next three drafts. Maybe everybody's

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Speaker 9: got a price eventually here. But yeah, to think too,

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Speaker 9: Dad about the number of voices that are in that

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Speaker 9: room right now. For Washington, you got Josh Harris, who

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Speaker 9: is a new owner going through his first draft. He's

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Speaker 9: been in every Combined interview, he's been at the visits,

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Speaker 9: He's intimately involved in the process. You got Bob Myers,

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Speaker 9: the former Golden State Warriors GM, who is at the

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Speaker 9: Combine and has been advising Josh Harris, going all the

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Speaker 9: way back to the coaching and GM search. You've got

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Speaker 9: Obviously Adam Peers, who's the GM Magic Johnson I guarantee,

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Speaker 9: has found a way to voice his opinion on what

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Speaker 9: should happen here. You've got dan Quinn, you got Kingsbury.

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Speaker 9: That's a lot of different people from different backgrounds that

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Speaker 9: are going to be weighing in on the topic here.

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Speaker 9: From Jane Daniel's perspective, you're right he was recruited Arizona State.

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Speaker 9: Antonio Pierce was a big part of that. James's mom,

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Speaker 9: who is very involved in his life and his career,

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Speaker 9: has been helping kind of steer things all along here.

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Speaker 9: It's a little bit curious that he would want to

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Speaker 9: reunite with someone taking them back to the Arizona State

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Speaker 9: days since Arizona State did not end well for a

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Speaker 9: variety of reas and it was at LSU the Jaden

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Speaker 9: Daniels really found himself.

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Speaker 8: But there's a comfort level there. He would like to.

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Speaker 9: Be in Las Vegas. It's just at this point, unless

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Speaker 9: you're going to pull a major lever here and try

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Speaker 9: to go full Eli Manning, it's just difficult to pull

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Speaker 9: this off. And for Washington, it seems like as they've

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Speaker 9: continued to go through this process, the arrows are pointing

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Speaker 9: toward them just taking Jade and Daniels making the best

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Speaker 9: of it in terms of getting him on board, Which

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Speaker 9: is the other reason that if you're Jaden Daniels and

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Speaker 9: you've got any trepidation about going someplace in South Las

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Speaker 9: Vegas when you think you'd want the team to spend

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Speaker 9: as much time and have you meet with everybody and.

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Speaker 8: Sit down and go through the playbook and.

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Speaker 9: Whatever else, that didn't necessarily happen to the same extent

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Speaker 9: that Jayden Daniels or as people would want to. But

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Speaker 9: ultimately it's on Washington to make that pick, and the

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Speaker 9: signs keep pointing toward that being number two.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't the Bears publicly declaring that they're taking Kida Williams.

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Speaker 9: I don't think they're really allowed to Dan. The NFL

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Speaker 9: frowns upon that. They like to have some level of drama,

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Speaker 9: even though there's not really a whole lot of drama.

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Speaker 8: To be had.

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Speaker 3: Well, what do I mean allowed to what?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 3: What would they get?

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Speaker 10: It?

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Speaker 9: Doesn't want The NFL wants the first time that it's

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Speaker 9: official to be on national TV.

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. But if I'm the Bears,

509
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Speaker 2: I want what's best for the Bears. In my fan base,

510
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Speaker 2: we believe in this guy. This is our guy, and

511
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Speaker 2: there we have no questions whatsoever. You know what, We're

512
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Speaker 2: going to play the game on Draft night, but this

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Speaker 2: is our guy. We want you guys to know instead

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Speaker 2: of having your fan base go and we should have

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Speaker 2: kept justin fieldser I don't know about this guy, like, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, we should take Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 9: Here's what I would tell you, And there are some

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Speaker 9: people within the league who who buy into Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 9: is going to be a better NFL player than Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 8: Cayl Williams, though, is the consensus top pick in this draft.

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Speaker 9: I would tell you behind the scenes, everything that the

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Speaker 9: Bears have done for the past several months has been

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Speaker 9: with an eye toward we are building this thing for

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Speaker 9: Caleb Williams. You make an offensive coordinator change. You bring

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Speaker 9: in Shane Waldron's worked with different types of quarterbacks in Seattle.

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Speaker 9: They think that he's a really good fit for Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 9: You go, you signed DeAndre Swift, You trade for Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 9: You retain your offensive line coach Chris Morgan because he's

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Speaker 9: a really good run game, guys. You make sure you

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Speaker 9: got that in place. They've obviously built that defense. It's

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Speaker 9: a top ten caliber defense. And then you signal to

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Speaker 9: Caleb Williams that you're all in on him by trading

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Speaker 9: Justin Field for a sixth round pick early in the process,

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Speaker 9: rather than dragging that out to the draft. Now, could

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Speaker 9: they have just gotten on the phone and told Caleb

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Speaker 9: that as opposed to trade and away Justine Fields for

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Speaker 9: six probably that would have probably had the same effect here.

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Speaker 9: But what they've done over the last couple of months

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Speaker 9: here is when Caleb Williams came in for his visit,

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Speaker 9: they sent him out to dinner with a bunch of

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Speaker 9: their key players and make sure everybody was in a

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Speaker 9: good spot there. They've stayed in touch with Caleb Williams

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Speaker 9: via zoom since that day, going through just talking football

544
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Speaker 9: stuff with him. This is all clearly geared toward Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: I get it. They're taking him. I just I said that.

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Speaker 3: I was told by a.

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Speaker 2: Source the Commissioner, or at least the Home Office, discourages

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Speaker 2: you from making this public. That's what this comes down to.

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Speaker 2: They just want that to be the first announcement. It's

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Speaker 2: the big night for the commissioner in the NFL. I

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Speaker 2: get that. I know you're short on time over under

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in round one. If I set the number at

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Speaker 2: four and a half, now I'll set it five and

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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's the correct line right there, that's where

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Speaker 9: I would set it. I would take right now, sitting here,

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Speaker 9: I would say six quarterbacks going round one. And that's

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Speaker 9: in part because this is a unique class where if

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Speaker 9: you get beyond the first six, arguably seven, because there

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Speaker 9: are some people who have Spencer Rattler in their top six,

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Speaker 9: some have them ahead of Michael Pennis. There's really not

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Speaker 9: a whole lot of other guys. There is Michael Prad

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Speaker 9: you mentioned We've got a great feature coming on in

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Speaker 9: NFL three sixty tomorrow night. He's probably a late day too,

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Speaker 9: early Day three guy. I think Joe Milton, the guy

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Speaker 9: with the howitzer from Tennessee, he's going to get taken

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Speaker 9: late just based on trades, and that might be it.

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Speaker 9: That might be the only quarterbacks to get drafted other

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Speaker 9: than maybe there's somebody in the seventh because there's a

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Speaker 9: competition to sign him as a PFA and you don't

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Speaker 9: want to go down. The seat is take them late.

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Speaker 8: But that's it.

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Speaker 9: So you have more teams right now that need quarterbacks

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Speaker 9: than there are quarterbacks to be taken. So if you

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Speaker 9: go right down the list right now, all right, Caleb

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Speaker 9: Williams to the Bears, barring something totally unforeseen, at number one,

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Speaker 9: let's give the Commanders Jayden Daniels a two.

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Speaker 8: Somebody then takes in all likelihood.

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Speaker 9: Not necessarily one hundred percent because JJ McCarthy's in that

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Speaker 9: mix two, but somebody probably ends up with Drake may

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Speaker 9: at number three, whether that's the Patriots, the Giants, or

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Speaker 9: the Vikings in a trade up scenario. JJ McCarthy then

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Speaker 9: goes somewhere I would think between four and eleven, which

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Speaker 9: then still leaves the potentially of the Broncos, the Raiders,

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Speaker 9: some of the wild card teams like could the Rams

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Speaker 9: potentially take one as well. I think that there's a

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Speaker 9: lot of people within the league who believe if the

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Speaker 9: Raiders cannot go get Jayden Daniels, which by the way,

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Speaker 9: would be totally out of character for Tom to LESCo

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Speaker 9: to make a trade up, the general manager there appendix

591
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Speaker 9: is the guy who makes a lot of sense for

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Speaker 9: the Raiders and then bow Knicks.

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Speaker 8: He's got a lot of fans around the league.

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Speaker 9: Let's say you're the Vikings and you get shut out,

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Speaker 9: you can't trade up, you miss out the Giants Tate McCarthy.

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Speaker 8: And you're stuck.

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Speaker 9: You might think, hey, we got not just number eleven,

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Speaker 9: we got number twenty three. Bow Knicks might be there,

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Speaker 9: And then the question is does a t are you

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Speaker 9: worried about a threat from a team like the Rams,

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Speaker 9: whose general manager Less Need played with bo Nix's dad

602
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Speaker 9: and is known forever Matthew Stafford's toward the end that

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Speaker 9: you feel like we need to get up ahead.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 9: The Vikings are really, I think one of the fascinating

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Speaker 9: teams this entire draft, because yes, they signed Sam Darnold,

607
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Speaker 9: but they don't have another guy right now.

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Speaker 8: They clearly want a quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Everyone's been talking since they acquired the twenty third pick

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Speaker 9: that are right, they're gonna package him and move up,

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Speaker 9: but someone needs to be willing to move down for

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Speaker 9: you to move up if they get stuck there. I

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Speaker 9: really believe any of those other five guys are possibilities

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Speaker 9: for the Vikings to take, whether it is some at

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Speaker 9: some point in round one, or if they try to

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Speaker 9: get up there and take one at the top two.

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Speaker 3: I know you busy. Thanks for joining us, Tom, Thanks

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Speaker 3: all that.

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Speaker 2: That's Don Pelacero, NFL Network Insider, part of their draft coverage,

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Speaker 2: and tomorrow at eight eastern the Emmy winning series NFL

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Speaker 2: three sixty Draft Days Special featuring the two lane quarterback

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Speaker 2: Michael Pratt. We'll give you our best and worst of

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Coming up, Doug in North Carolina. Hi, Doug,

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Speaker 2: what do you have for me today?

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Speaker 10: Well, Dan, Wilmington, North Carolina. First off, and I have

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Speaker 10: to tell you that the best of the weekend is

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Speaker 10: our favorite son, Michael Jordan owned a car that won

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Speaker 10: Talladega yesterday. The worst of the weekend is on Friday,

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Speaker 10: our favorite son, Michael Jordan stabbed the city in the back.

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Speaker 10: We had plans to build a museum in downtown Wilmington,

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Speaker 10: Wilmington in his honor, Michael Jordan Museum. Everything was signed

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Speaker 10: and field, and on Friday he announced that he didn't

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Speaker 10: want to have it here in Wilmington. This is a

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Speaker 10: guy that and Polly may be able to say the

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Speaker 10: same thing about Chicago, but since he's left, he's shunned

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Speaker 10: this and he wants nothing to do with us, and

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Speaker 10: he's it feels like he's broken the hearts of a

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Speaker 10: lot of people here in Wilmington, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: MM, thank you, Doug. Yeah, I didn't know about the

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Speaker 2: Mike museum. How often do you turn down a museum

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Speaker 2: that's in honor of you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: It was just announced on Friday. The new Hanover County

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Speaker 6: officials said they planned Michael Jordan museum will not go forward.

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Speaker 2: Did they run this by Michael before they announced that

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Speaker 2: they were going to have a museum?

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Speaker 6: Were they surprising him with it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Guess what, Mike?

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Speaker 3: And he said, guess we got a museum.

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Speaker 2: Mike, can we have a bunch of memory, your memorabilia

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Speaker 2: to throw it to? Mm? No, it turns out you can't.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, but uh no, I'd rather you didn't.

655
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's unclear why the family changed their mind

656
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 6: or refused to cooperate.

657
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: He's been trying to sell his museum in Chicago for

658
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: a long time, but too many twenty three's all over

659
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: the place. Well, I hadn't sold his house's Yeah, that's

660
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's his museum.

661
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, The news released to not state a specific reason

662
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 6: from the by the Jordan family decision.

663
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Why do why do people not want to buy Michael

664
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: Jordan's house? I know there's a lot of twenty three.

665
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: Positive it is because you have to take down all

666
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: the twenty threes. I'm positive, But that's what you're buying.

667
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: You're buying Michael Jordan's house. Don't you want what comes

668
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan's house. Go into the bathroom and you

669
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: turn the two and the three for hot and cold water.

670
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: It's like, good god, it's.

671
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 6: Down to fourteen to eighth. It was like twenty one million. Yeah,

672
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 6: there's no way around it. Like I'm looking at the pictures.

673
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 6: A non sports fan would know Michael Jordan's live here.

674
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, But but you would think there would be a

675
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: fanatic out there that would go, I got Michael Jordan's house,

676
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: and I got stuff that goes along with that. You

677
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: got the basketball court there, and you know, granted the

678
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: gate has a big two and a three on it,

679
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: and he's.

680
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 6: Got a casino in one level, there's like a poker

681
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 6: playing room.

682
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

683
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like if you bought is there another

684
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: athlete that like Shack's house, Shack's House in Orlando. I

685
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: don't know if that was up for sale, but it's

686
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: it's scaled to Shack. You can't be like Danny DeVito

687
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: and you you know, you buy the Shack House.

688
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 6: How many seven foot billionaires are there?

689
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have to be a billionaire, okay,

690
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: but still you have to buy a house. I heard

691
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: the story about Horace Grant when he played with the Magic.

692
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: He had a house in winter Park, but it was

693
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: for a six to nine guy, and then the person

694
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: who bought it had to lower like the countertops, and

695
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: you know it had to be you know, kind of

696
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: normalized with something like that. Yes, Marvin, And.

697
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 11: Why are there goggles at the gate.

698
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: For Horace Grant?

699
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 8: Yeah?

700
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 6: Yes, dud And Joran's got that wagging tongue chandelier above?

701
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 8: True?

702
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: You know that's not true. Does the doorbell you have

703
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: to push? It's like, guishy, can you press a doorbell?

704
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: It berates visitors, it tells them I'm better than you think.

705
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Speaker 2: of Famer Dave Matthews band, Marvin You Dave Matthews fan.

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Speaker 11: I'm not I know who they are.

712
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 7: Okay.

713
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 11: They were a constant like, oh are you going to

714
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 11: in high school? Are you going to Dave? Dave Matthews

715
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 11: was on tour every single summer, and the kids in

716
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 11: my high school that wore the shell necklaces, they were

717
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 11: gonna go see Dave Matthews.

718
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: I like Grateful Dave. You know, he's fun, good band.

719
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: It's a good time and Hall of Famer. I was

720
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: in a movie with him, Just Go with It out

721
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: in Hawaii. Got a chance to spend some time with him.

722
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: Very funny guy, very sharp guy. Got to see the

723
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: show a couple of times. So happy for Grateful Day.

724
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: If you ask Paul, I don't like.

725
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 6: When people don't like a band and say they shouldn't

726
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 6: be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You

727
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: should acknowledge someone's success or fan base or whatever it

728
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 6: may be, because like there's some eras that some people

729
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 6: don't like. I'm looking at the list of bands that

730
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 6: are not in and there's a lot like Iron Maiden's

731
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 6: not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It

732
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 6: seemed like they had a very successful run.

733
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, so why can't I not like a band?

734
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 6: No, you cannot like a band, but you should look

735
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 6: at them objectively and say they should be in the

736
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Like Mariah Carey is

737
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 6: not in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She

738
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: seems like she's really successful and I'm not a fan

739
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 6: of her work.

740
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I see.

741
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: So if you're looking at them objectively, you just have

742
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: to say they should be in.

743
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying, like, can you discuss someone and not

744
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 6: like them, Like I don't like Mariah Carey's music, But

745
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 6: if you look at like, almost like a judging for

746
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 6: the Basketball Hall of Fame, you may not be a

747
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 6: fan of a player, but like the work speaks for itself,

748
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 6: or the success speaks for itself. See and you love

749
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 6: the band. I love the band New Order a very

750
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 6: popular band in the new wave of Air of the eighties.

751
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 6: I'm sure a lot of people don't like them, but

752
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 6: their success stands for itself.

753
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm confused that I have to respect a band

754
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: but not like a band.

755
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know you can. Can you look at

756
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: a band objectively if you don't like their music.

757
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's players in the Hall of Fame who I

758
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: don't like, but I understand that they're in the Hall

759
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: of Fame, then they should be I guess if that's

760
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Yeah, I mean I usually judge these

761
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: kinds of things by what they did for music and

762
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: did they once their existence?

763
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: Were they either so tremendously.

764
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: Successful that that speaks for itself, or did they change

765
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: the direction of music once they it was going one

766
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: way and then they existed and now it splintered off

767
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: into another direction? That to me is always something that's like,

768
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: oh damn, that they were really really important by Sirvana

769
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: did this? Yeah, Nirvana would certainly be one of them,

770
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: or even maybe Tribe Coal Quest. That could be why

771
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: they got in. You know, there's a lot of different

772
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: artists that are like that New Order probably being one

773
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: of them.

774
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 8: Yeah.

775
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can go by just what

776
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: they did for music. I mean, there's certain bands or

777
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: artists that I don't know if they changed anything, but

778
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: they added too. I mean, Foreigner didn't really change music.

779
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: They just had a bunch of hits and they're going

780
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: into the rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and I

781
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with that.

782
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, I'm going through this list. I'm just cringing

783
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 6: at certain names, like share very successful singing career, right, Yeah,

784
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 6: she'd never been nominated for the rock and Roll Hall

785
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: of Fame.

786
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 2: Okay, which is a travesty in itself.

787
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's snarky.

788
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: Well, part of this is, like Mariah Carey's not rock

789
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: and roll. There's nothing rock and roll about her. It

790
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: should be labeled the music Hall of Fame. If it's

791
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: the rock and roll Hall of Fame, then there's a

792
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: lot of artists who shouldn't be in. Mariah Carey is

793
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: one of the most successful, is arguably the most successful

794
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: female artist of all time. Like, of course, of course

795
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: she needs to be in. It's crazy. But but when

796
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: we say rock and roll, she's not rock and roll. Yeah, yeah,

797
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: but that's it's that is dumb. Yeah, But that's the

798
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: problem I think people have. If you said music Hall

799
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: of Fame, nobody would argue with that. With Mariah Carey,

800
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: they wouldn't. But rock and roll they're like, well, she's

801
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: not rock and roll.

802
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 6: No, she's not.

803
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: But these are the new inductees, you know, Chaer, Foreigner, Dave,

804
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 2: Matthew Ban.

805
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

806
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't get too caught up in it.

807
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: I only get caught up when I feel like somebody

808
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: is not in and and Foreigner bothered me that they

809
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: weren't in. I just thought, you know, they cranked out hits.

810
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 11: Yes, Mark Peter Frampton, I don't remember, but he had

811
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 11: a big live album.

812
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: Did he have anything else?

813
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 6: Huge?

814
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: One of the biggest albums of all time, Frampton Comes Alive.

815
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Did he have a sustained greatness over his career? No,

816
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: but Frampton Comes Alive. That was a big deal.

817
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 6: Yeample Peter Frampton's like an NFL running back, running for

818
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 6: two thousand yards and not doing much else. Remember Chris

819
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: Johnson of the Titans. Yeah, he's Chris Johnson. Did Peter

820
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 6: Frampton invent that weird sound that's that? No?

821
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: Because well, I don't think so.

822
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: I think if you look and listen to Joe Walsh

823
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: on Rocky Mountain Way that he uses, I think that's

824
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: the same instrument.

825
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: Now I don't I don't.

826
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 8: Want to know.

827
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: The talk box is that what it is? I don't

828
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: want to be told, you know, stay in my lane here.

829
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: But feels like Joe Walsh may have had that earlier

830
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: than Peter Frampton, who really popularized it most effectively. Really

831
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: is bon Jovi?

832
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: Where Where, Where Where?

833
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 7: Where?

834
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: He's got Bora is all over that talk box. He's

835
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: got some vocal cord issues bon Jovi. He has for

836
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: a long time.

837
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 6: I just saw there's a documentary coming out, four part

838
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 6: documentary on bon Jovi, I think on Hulu.

839
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: Let's go just announced, and I think he's putting out

840
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: a new album.

841
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: But Richie Sambora, I don't know if they're going out

842
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: on tour, but he's not going to be with them anymore.

843
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: They're behind the music was one of the best behind

844
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: the musics ever. That show on VH one.

845
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Really, Oh god, was it?

846
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just because I'm from Jersey, Oh my god,

847
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: it was fantastic.

848
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: Was there drama?

849
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: There was drama, yeah, and it was not not like

850
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: like the worst drum drugs and women.

851
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't.

852
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Know, it's just funny that it's bon Jovi. It's the

853
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: best though.

854
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yes, Paul Snead O'Connor nominated, didn't make it in

855
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 6: this year. Usually she was nominated, she passes away, and

856
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: you think they put her in this year?

857
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, huh yeah, yes, Ton tear.

858
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 11: A picture of the Pope on Sauray Night Live. That

859
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 11: may keep you out a little bit, shouldn't.

860
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. That sounds like rock and roll.

861
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: That's like the punk rock and roll is first ballot.

862
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, let's go. Final hour on the way.

863
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: Mike Florio from Pro Football TNK will stop by talk

864
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: about the NBA MVP candidates. More of your phone calls

865
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: on this Monday