WEBVTT - Ricard, Kolar, & Harbaugh: Ravens Training Camp 8/6/24 Press Conferences 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.480 Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It is Tuesday, 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.080 August sixth. The Ravens thought another training camp practice today. Afterwards, 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.039 we had a chance to hear from head coach John Harball, 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.400 who shares some updates on Ravens players dealing with injuries. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:23.560 Had a great practice, tough practice, hot, second back to 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.280 back padded practice physical, the last padded practice before we 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.200 played Eagles on Friday. Thought the guys showed up. They 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.040 showed up ready to go to work. It was fun. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.199 Can't wait to watch the tape. Had a little drill 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.160 there at the end, fumble recovery drill. George Gatzi, coach 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.360 Goatzy runs that drill teaches those guys how to recover fumble. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.879 So it's a little. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.280 Wet, you know, high pressure hose is a lot of fun. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.479 So we recovered the last one. I can tell you 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.880 that the last one we got recovered. What questions you have, John, 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:52.600 We saw your side. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.960 Russell Gage his first practice out of the team. We 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:56.880 went into that signing and then how did he look 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:57.720 out there today? 0:00:58.400 --> 0:00:58.640 Yeah? 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.160 It was Uh, he was an opportunity for us. Really, 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.240 I mean, he's guy that's proven, proven player, catches tough player, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.560 physical player, great hands, just approven NFL veteran type player, 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.680 just starting today, look good, but just starting kind of 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.560 ramping him up a little bit of an enigy. He 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.679 got his helmet out there about one. He was out 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.000 there at one twenty so, but we got him out 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:22.400 there and got him going a little bit. So he'll 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.319 learn the offense and he should play Friday if he's 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.800 some guys that to get him off by. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:32.959 Puts the challenge and the guy. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.560 He does so much conference, well, we have to ramp 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.240 him up a little bit, no doubt about it. Brian. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.960 I mean, he's just hadn't done hadn't done anything, you know, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.160 from the first day, really been working on that the 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.320 hamstering issue. So we're gonna bring him along. But the 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.120 good news is it's still pretty early in camp relatively speaking. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.200 We've got still got three full preseason games and plenty 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.280 of weeks of practice to get him ready. So he's 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.200 excited to be back, you know, he's worked hard to 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.080 get back and we're looking forward to having him out there. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.000 We'll just have to see how it kind of progresses 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:05.400 during the week this week. Pay Yeah, not serious, you know, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:06.880 he just kind of you saw him laying down after 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.560 you made that catch, kind of hit the ground hard. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.040 So uh, nothing long term. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.720 John, in the last couple of years, you've seen you 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.040 don't really play a lot of starters in the preseason 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.959 and anticipate that being the same. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.200 Case of industry. Well, it's case by case. As you know, 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.160 there's certain guys aren't gonna play, and you'll probably figure 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.079 out who they are and then we'll, uh, we'll play 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.679 all the guys that need to play. Everybody else is 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.640 said nothing but the positive things to say about Trenlan 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.960 Simpson in the class treman. I guess what's the most 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.760 difficult thing about stepping into a much bigger hole in 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.519 that position back? Well, I mean it's always a step, 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.560 but this in this league. I think your point is 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.320 a really good point. You know, he's gonna be expanding 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.280 his responsibilities greatly, but he's done much to earn that opportunity, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.280 and you know, I think he'll bloom into that opportunity. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.480 Right probably catching David down answer, how these younger singer 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.160 store pushing pushing the better last. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.400 Responsive, Yeah, the young receivers, right, Well, I think they're 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.680 they're pushing. You know, none of them is like pushed through. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.040 Yet they're all they're all making dents, you know. And 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.560 John made a nice stent there with that touchdown catch 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.600 up the sideline, great throw from Devn so you know 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.440 it was well covered. I mean it was really well 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.160 covered too. So but just keep working those guys. I 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.640 think they're all working really hard and uh, you know, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.760 at some point in time, hopefully it shakes out in 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.200 terms of a pecking order. We saw right now at 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.080 the end, they're detained in their corner. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.760 You got to really lie and makes them play the 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.480 emotion on that defensive sideline. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.760 After that, what are you trying to accomplish when the pip. 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:41.160 The guy in that situation that I mean, yes, good question, Bo. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.760 And you can imagine just the opportunity to to apply 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.400 all the work that you've done and build as a 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:51.280 foundation underneath your your game as a player into a situation, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.840 a circumstance where you're in that moment and you have 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.200 an opportunity to make the play and uh, you know, 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.160 Sanusi came up and made a play right there. And 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.480 that's it's so exciting and so emotional for guys, I 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.800 think because they work so hard to be in that moment. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.080 So practice, we were live tackling on that play and uh, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:08.160 and he came up with it. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.400 Here to hit the edge and I think went untouched 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.200 in the edge. To see a guy that big able 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:16.720 to move that. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:21.880 Fast, well, yeah, it really is. What else can you say? 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.040 I mean, he looked great and I just very impressed 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.280 with Derrick Henry in every way and I can't wait 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:29.640 to see him out there in games. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:38.600 Following in the interest of starters, it's important to you 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.039 to get so he looks for significant. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.680 Amount of looks with Derek with live carries in the 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.000 run game or to see. 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.920 A guy that and we know what he can do. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.840 If we're trying to keep as many carries as you 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.800 can't get, well we're not gonna get live carries. You know, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.839 it's not gonna be tackling to the ground with Derek 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.800 in practice. But we do understand that for a lot 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:04.120 of guys like Derek, the the practices are the game reps. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.040 You know, these are like they've got to be treated 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.680 like game reps. Put yourself in that frame of mind 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.760 when you when you practice, so when the game comes 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.400 against Kansas City and thereafter you're you're you've you've been 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.720 there before. Now they've been there and play games before, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.480 so they know how to make that adjustment also. So 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.760 but yeah, it's it's not live, but it's it's pretty physical, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:30.680 you know. And he's been practicing very well. See, Arthur's 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:35.000 been dealing with a knee issue. We'll see. It's not 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.400 gonna be you know, anything season ending. Uh, but we're 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:40.840 looking at it right now. We've got to figure out 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.520 what it is. And Adaf spraining his ankle on a 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:51.520 little bit, you'll be fine. I think I just answered 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:59.720 that like early and come back. Yeah, I don't know 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.599 I even notice. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.720 We also heard from Pro Bowl full back Patrick Riccard. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:11.800 Kind of feels I. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.240 Mean, you've been in a lot of dreaming teams. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:18.719 It's just the hottest, you know. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.839 This is my eighth training came down here. I think 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.640 it's definitely one of the hottest ones. I think my 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.279 rookie year or second year, I think it was every 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.200 day it was like in the nineties, no rain, no clouds. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.559 But yeah, it's definitely been hot, especially in full pass. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.160 It seems like it's been mid nineties and then tomorrow 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.200 we're in Sheldon. It's in the seventies, so like, it's 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:47.400 all good that will get us better. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:48.640 Something about. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.760 What he likes and he doesn't like him clowns kind 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:55.200 of build him. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.520 Yeah, it's nice to finally get to prack just together 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.520 and kind of see what plays he likes. And he 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.760 told me he likes every running play, so it makes 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.440 it easy. And for me it's just you know, kind 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.440 of see what he sees in terms of the flow 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.240 of the how the rum play kind of develops, and 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.960 how I should hit the hole to get my guy 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.880 so he can run off of it as little things 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.680 like that. But I mean, with the back like him, 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.760 it just makes you want to just hit someone even harder, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.320 pushing me even a little bit further, because he's a 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.600 big guy. You know, he's gotta get he's gotta you know, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.200 run through there. So but he'll run through it. So 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.120 as long as I can move, a guy will be all. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.160 Good forgot me be Good's so good kind of get. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.160 Yeah, I mean, okay, so it's a little weird, but 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.280 if you look at Derek, he is a lot of legs, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.840 Like he is very very long legs. So I think 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.200 that's why he's very fast, very explosive, very hard to 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.080 bring down because when you're moving those big legs, it's 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.960 really hard to bring down. But yeah, it's just incredible 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.200 how his size he has that size, but that speed. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.760 That's why he's so special. Yet for the Lamar and 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.400 Derek back. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.200 No, I think I think the fans will kind of 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.160 you know, get that or as the season goes on, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.600 you know, I think guys will give names. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.400 In this league, we think of like affix of dread, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.600 which position of flexibility a little guy like Jared McKinnon 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:18.520 right running back. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.080 I feel like you guys have that. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.000 With big bodies, where likely you can play a bunch 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:24.960 of different places. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.040 You've already shown you can play four or five because 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.360 it's Charlie Koehler continued to develop. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.920 Maybe his skills to how important could that flexibility at 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:34.240 a heavy strengia. 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.560 Yeah, I mean I think regardless of heavier, smaller guys, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.080 it's all about versatility and being positionless to where you can 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:47.160 kind of play multiple spots, multiple roles. But yeah, being 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.560 bigger guy, I mean it helps. Like we also have 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.040 you know, say Flowers as a smaller guy but can 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.480 play all over the place. So I think it's I 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.280 don't think it matters about the size. It's more of 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.240 where you can play it. We have a lot of 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.200 guys who can do that, and I know Munkin's gonna 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.520 have a field day of putting us in all different 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.920 places and you know it's gonna be it's gonna be 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.080 a lot of fun of the players that we have. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.400 You want to do a season within general idea, how 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.439 much you think you're gonna play and what your role 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:13.000 is gonna be here? 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:13.600 Do you find that? 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.160 It's just it seems like it's been ever evolving and 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:17.719 in a lot of your seasons. So is that kind 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:17.959 of how. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:18.360 You look at it? 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.440 So for me, I think it's more of kind of 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.520 how games go. You know, if we're if we're down 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.000 by a lot, we're gonna pass the ball a lot 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.760 and we're not. I'm not gonna be in there running routes. Really, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.520 it's gonna be more protections and all that stuff. So 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.439 it's it's really how games go. But for me, it's 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.079 like I just try to learn as much of the 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.120 playbook as I can, be as valuable as I can 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:38.720 in terms of how they can use me and do 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.680 it the best to where they want to use me 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.280 in those positions to where I can get them the 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:46.160 field as much as it possibly can. But yeah, I 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.240 mean it's it's up to the coaches, it's up to 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.000 me of getting my job done and kind of see 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.280 how everything plays out. But at the end of the day, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.400 I don't It doesn't matter if I play five one 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.120 hundred five thousand snaps. As long as you win, then 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:16.319 it's all really matters. I mean, when I first got 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.679 asked to play full back, I didn't play offense in college. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.600 So for me, it was just like take it step 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.559 by step and really be a sponge, really asked a 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.200 lot of questions. I had to meet a lot with 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.440 coaches and players and even now, you know, Monkins the 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.880 second year here, so last year was kind of learned 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.079 as much as I can. And I miss most of 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.360 the off season when my hip surgery last year, but 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.200 now having the same offensive coordinator a lot of the 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.680 same guys in the offense, I was able to really 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.000 have just a big foundation from last season and kind 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.319 of just grow from that and just kind of just 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.959 keep learning different things, keep refinding things I'm good at. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.240 But yeah, that's the biggest. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:11:05.440 Thing, you know, I think the biggest thing about Mark 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.319 and Isaiah is they have like like backyard football kind 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.160 of sense when they play. They have a lot of 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.480 they can they feel space and and they're able to 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.400 get They're able to get open is the biggest thing, and. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.000 You can kind of see it from both of them. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.520 And Lamar is the same way. He can sense. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.480 Of where they're going to be, even if it's the 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.319 route isn't exactly how it's supposed to be, but they 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:26.839 get open. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.920 I think that's like what you can see a lot 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:29.800 with Isaiah and Mark. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.040 But I think that all those biggest thing is they 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.680 love to compete, especially those two. They're just always trying 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.560 to get better and different things, but with each other 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.040 because they're very similar players. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.440 How much more efficient do you think you guys can 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:44.360 be throwing. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:44.440 The ball at? 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.760 I mean, I think very It all depends what we're 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.120 going to see, but yeah, you have two big body 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:57.200 guys like that who can get open, who can make 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.000 you know, difficult catches and are hard to bring down, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.959 don't I think it's gonna be very efficient, but it's 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.079 not gonna take away from everything else that we're gonna do. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.120 You see here not only have to touchdown, but to 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.120 keep the guy gets that last target kind of go Andre. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.280 I know you guys can get, but what kind of 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.480 confidence should to take and just how much take on 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.640 the next sea? 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.640 Yeah, I mean he was a quarterback at Villanova and 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.400 then came here as a receiver. And when you when 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.480 you saw him running as a receiver early on in 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.800 like OTAs in camp, he's just like dad. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.000 This guy is a big body. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.679 Like he's physical, he's he tacks the ball, but he's 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:34.720 also very athletic. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.520 So from the transfer transition to tight end. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.559 I think it's been a pretty seamless transition for him. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.959 He's still he's still learning, but I. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.840 Mean he's he's been, you know, very active in meetings. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.319 He's been always trying to get better, especially in the 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.760 running game because that's fairly new to him. You know, 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.040 as a quarterback and receiver, you're not really blocking too much. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.000 But I think, you know, as every day he keeps 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.559 stacking practices and meetings, he's gonna get more and more confidence, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.559 especially with these games coming up. I'm just excited to 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.480 see what he does. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.800 And lastly, today we heard from tight end Charlie Kohler. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.600 Obviously we've got a really good room. We got four 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.040 guys who have played decent amount of football. I think 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.439 I can. I think I can be really effective in 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.960 the run game and then play Action World. Uh, just 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.160 stretching the edge, like being violent on the perimeter, and 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:32.920 then when you get a chance, and obviously you know 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.520 marken Zage most of the targets. So just like finding 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.480 where I can fit in the play Action World, Boots, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.000 et cetera, and then slowly earning more snaps. But I 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.760 believe in myself and I know we have a great room. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.160 But I think I can continue to contribute, and I 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:46.959 think I showed that at the end of last year, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.360 and then just keep growing on that. Is this working 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.680 or is this just like the film it's not working 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:04.880 at all. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I can start making up 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:05.439 questions too. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:06.880 Charlie. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.160 We heard you know, the rookie fumbles role at the end, 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:10.559 we heard you telling a lot of the rookies to 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.560 go back. And then your third year on a fairly 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.120 young offense, you feel yourself stepping into more of a 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.040 leadership role. You know, third year tight end, you know, 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.320 one of the leaders on the offense. Just in terms 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.960 of the move, I'm being here for a couple of years. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.640 That's a great question. But I was just kind of 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.640 being a jerk right there, so that wasn't necessarily a 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.800 great leadership role. But uh, I mean, I certainly don't 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.520 feel like I'm older. But then you see what percentage 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.400 of the team every year as a rookie, you realize 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.040 how old you are in retrospect to the team, even 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.080 just in the third year. So just like obviously we 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.880 have our leaders in the offense who are more vocal, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.360 like eight and stuff, and so just trying to give 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.560 words of encouragement or like ways that I made mistakes 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.320 in the past or did good things in the past 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.080 helped me play, and just like giving them and a 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.760 lot of stuff is like I think a lot of 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.960 the times that stuff is better when on one sometimes 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.320 just because then they get a little bit overwhelmed with 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.760 so much stuff and then you don't want to like 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.320 you're coming at them. So yeah, how much more look 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:01.520 at it? 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.520 Just continue to improve. You're blocking as an entree into 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:06.680 expanding your piated. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.840 Yeah, well I didn't block anyone in college, so it's 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:14.440 definitely learning in the first few years. I just think 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.000 that I believe in myself in the passing world, and 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.080 I still do. And so if I can just continue 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.040 to add that run game and the blocking stuff. You know, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.880 I've put on good weight. I feel like I'm the 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.720 healthiest I've ever been in the league. And so I 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.400 think if I can just continue growing in that world, 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.880 there's a lot of snaps available, so Lineman. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.440 And Nan honor and I give you advice. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.840 And adding Mo was great my first two years ear 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.560 league was close with Moe and Ronnie. Ronnie is still here. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:46.840 McCarey's great. I mean, I work with some like an 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.920 off season's old tight end, Logan Paulsen. He's helped me 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.160 out a lot. He's old blocking tight end from the Commanders. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.800 He's been great with me. And then Nick Boyle and 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.160 Pat I mean just in my room too, Like my 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.560 Pat's basically an O lineman who can run so like 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.440 as not in an insult like he's just that good 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.440 and so like, there's so many good people to learn from, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.320 and so yeah, I've been very blessed, been very blessed. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.320 In the game just getting to see side. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:17.040 Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. I definitely wasn't like 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.760 as in in college, I was primarily a receiver, just 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.160 like that's just what I was asked of me. And 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.600 so even though like I was involved in the run game, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.320 it wasn't like a primary you know, I was backside 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.120 cut off, perimeter blocking. It's a lot different when you're 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.480 like front side of gap scheme er outside zone. And 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.200 so definitely like learning a lot more in the run game, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.040 just IDs fronts, et cetera. Talking with Linderbaum and all 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.440 the other linemen about how they see it and how 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.560 the tackles fit. It helps me a lot. There's a 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.720 lot more nuances in the run game. It's like so 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.320 uh it's so like fine detail with that. You know 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.240 on TV it's just a bunch of guys hitting each other, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.840 but there's so many details, just like every single play 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.120 about like do you have a five? Do you have 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:53.800 a four? Do you have a four? I just going 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.960 from there and learning from those guys who have played 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:00.000 so much football. It's been really cool in your life. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.480 You've been here, what has been here? 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.280 Offseason team doing different teams. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.400 I switched from Bud Heavies to Bud Light. That helped 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:13.800 a lot. I'm just kidding, but uh no, I mean 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.080 I think that I'm a pro and I'm not in 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.120 college anymore, and so like just the just the whole 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.040 aspect of the of the game, you know, the lifting, 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.760 the better nutrition, the taking care of your body, the 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:30.360 recovery stuff, and also just healthy. You know, I had 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.920 two core surgeries in two years at becoming Murky year, 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.520 and so I was just so weak. I just didn't 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.280 have like any of the strength distability that I needed 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.639 to be effective. And so just like I like, you know, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.919 last year getting better than this year is like a 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.119 full healthy year. I feel good. So yeah, a lot 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.600 of it is just kind of growing up, getting out 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:47.359 of your college ways. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.000 But yeah, do you feel like you have an effect 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.600 learned a whole new position with just entirely different muscle 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.359 memories than the college position. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.080 Yeah, I kind of do. It's uh, well, certainly I 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.840 still do the past game stuff. You know, it's very 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.280 much switched. We're in college. I was vast majority receiving 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:09.600 small majority blocking. Now is the other way around. And yeah, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.080 I mean it's totally just uh i'd say, like, uh, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.440 not that I've That's a good way to put it. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.320 I haven't like changed the position, but I've learned on 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.360 a new position. I like that because I haven't forgotten 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.639 the past game stuff. I'm just not asked about it 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.880 mass to do it as much. But the run game 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.280 stuff is like you said, it's like it's like a 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.640 whole new position in a lot of ways. Especially there's 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.520 a big difference between you know, the perimeter blocking and 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.840 like the front side gaps, geam and that stuff with 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:34.919 a lot more stuff with that. 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.840 So we think we would be you kick off. I 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.840 assume that's gonna be a substantial portion of responsibility. Tell 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.920 us what you what's you? What's your process for trying 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.400 to understand it? And I get holy we just heard 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:48.919 a presentation k very. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:53.800 Detailed of that from whom from who Oh no, No, 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.680 I'm I'm excited, man, I get to run less. That's 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:55.920