1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast, and today 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: we are going to have a lesson in socialism. It 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: seems like it's time we see it going all across 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: this country. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: And even though you may feel. 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Like, oh, this is just in a few mayoral races, 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: and maybe it was New York City, but it's not 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: New York State. We actually have an expert here today 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: to tell us why we should be a little bit 10 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: more hyper aware of exactly what's going on. 11 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: We have JT. Young with us. 12 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: He is a former congressional policy advisor who worked three 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: decades in and around Congress. But he's also the author 14 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: of a new book called Unprecedented Assault. How Big Government 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: unleashed America's socialists left. This is terrifying. Tell us what 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: is going on. Thank you for joining me today. 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to be here, though I hate to 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: have to be on this topic. I mean, this truly 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: is an unprecedented assault. We have never seen anything like 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: this in American history, and we've been very fortunate that 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: we haven't, and I think the rest of the world 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: would be would tell us just how fortunate we are. 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: But we are now seeing, as you just mentioned in 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: your preface here, we are seeing people not just running 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: away from the Democrat socialist label, they're running to that label. 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: And we haven't seen that, and really well over a century. 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: Eugene Debs was a perennial or quadrennial socialist candidate for president, 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: ran five times, never won a single electoral vote, and 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: that's largely been what we've seen in American history. There 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: have been attempts, but never anything meaningful for a meaningful 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: period of time. Now we're seeing just the opposite. We're 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: seeing beginning ten years ago, really with Bernie Sanders running 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: for president about Democrat socialists. He's always been upfront about 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: that and ran for the Democrat nomination, and that was 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. He took Hillary Clinton to the wire, 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: and candidly, I think he would have won had it 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: not been for the Democrats basically rigged system of super 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: delegates that gave Hillary Clinton the nomination. But he embedded. 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: You know, it was clear the energy from that campaign 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: was all from Bernie Sanders. 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: So I think that the Democrats at that point thought 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: they had kind of nipped it in the bud. I 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: feel like they were like, Okay, he had this rise. 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: People felt really good. They got to vote for. 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: Him, but we didn't let him actually win. 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: And there was a group of us that kind of 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: do you remember the Muppets, They had those two guys 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: that like two guys in the balcony that were reviewing. Yeah, 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: he was kind of like just a muppet, you know, 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: just he looked like those guys and crazy hair. He 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: just kind of came off as this goofball and people 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: were like, you know what Bernie's done. He has had 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: this major rise back up. I mean I even thought 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: that it was goofy when AOC came out. I'm like, 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: this old muppet is teaming up with this young woman 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: and they're never going to get anywhere, but they. 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: Have right, you know, Tutor, to your point, Bernie Sanders' 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: success was actually the cause of his demise in twenty twenty, 59 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: because if you looked at what happened four years later, 60 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: all the candidates running for president, with the exception of 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: one Joe Biden, were running in Sanders space. So they 62 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: split Sanders vote. Elizabeth Warren, buddhaj Edge, everybody was going 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: as far left as they could. They were trying to 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: draft behind Sanders, and they took the air out of him, 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: and of course that allowed Joe Biden once again to 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: save the Democratic establishment and come in instead of the 67 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: far left. But as you just mentioned when we saw, 68 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: you know, with AOC and twenty eighteen, the energy has 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: still been there. That is where it is, and we're 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: continuing to see that. And we just saw that manifestation 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: earlier this month on election Day, with not just one 72 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: in New York, Old America's largest city, Mondannie winning there. 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: But we've just seen over the last few days that 74 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: Katie Wilson has won in Seattle as well. And so 75 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: we have Tweedledum and tweedled d of the Socialist Party 76 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: running the left coast and the east coast of the 77 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: United States. We have now two Democrats Socialists mayors in place, 78 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: and we're going to have them for the next four years. 79 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think the scary thing is that this Gallup 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: poll just came out says forty two percent of Americans 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: say they would vote for a socialist for president if 82 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: that person were nominated by their political party. So, first, 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: I think that's scary because I do think that we've 84 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: kind of become like entwined, so entwined in our political party, 85 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: our political party is always right that we're just going 86 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: to go because it's black and white. The other side 87 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: is so bad, we've got to stick with our party. 88 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: And now the socialist runs on the two party ticket. 89 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: It used to be that if you were running as 90 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: a socialist, and you've pointed this out, that you had 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: to be on a third party ticket, you had no chance. 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: But sixty three percent of Democrats say they would support 93 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: a socialist candidate. It's not just a nominee like I 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: will fully support the socialist. Has the Democrat ticket become 95 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: the socialist ticket, It's. 96 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: Well on its way. And I think what you're seeing 97 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: now is the fact. And we saw this for four 98 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: years with Joe Biden, who was a very very weak 99 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: president with a very weak coalition. As we were just discussing, 100 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: you know, nobody really wanted Joe Biden. Joe Biden was 101 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: everybody's second choice, and as others dropped away, their support 102 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: went behind Biden and hit buoyed him up. But he 103 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: came in basically came into office as a weakened president, 104 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: and he had no choice but to try to hold 105 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: a coalition together. As his administration became less and less popular, 106 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: he became more and more dependent on his far left, 107 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 3: and it was very notable. Remember when we were seeing 108 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: him being pushed out of the race in twenty twenty four, 109 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: well end of the race, the voices that were not 110 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: calling for him were very significant, and those voices were 111 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders, AOC. The far left was not calling for 112 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: Biden to leave the race. 113 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: Because they were getting everything they wanted well, and I 114 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: think that was very manipulative because and I wonder, do 115 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: you think that establishment Democrats had been tricked into the 116 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: idea that if they had Joe Biden, he was going 117 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: to be a moderate, because something happened once he got in. 118 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that he didn't know or 119 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: that his staff was like, Okay, we're going to just 120 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: bring in every agency, we're going to bring in a socialist. 121 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: But it seems like they just kind of took over 122 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: and the people who thought they were getting the moderate 123 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: got someone way worse than what they could have imagined. 124 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: Right. I think you're right, And I think again Biden's 125 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: weaken state means he could not get rid of anyone 126 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: who was supporting him. His support was so weak, and 127 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: we are now seeing largely the same thing happening not 128 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: just to the Biden administration but to the Democrat Party 129 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: as a whole. And we've seen this mom Donnie's candidacy 130 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: is a case in point, as you've noticed, who was 131 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: it who came out to support him. Obviously AOC brought 132 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: him down to Washington to speak to Congressional Democrats, and 133 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: then over time Elizabeth Warren comes out behind it. Finally 134 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: Hakeem Jeff comes out behind and the Democrat Party can't 135 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: get rid of their Democrat socialists because this is where 136 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: all their energy is and they're a significant number of 137 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: their supporters without them, I think they realize that they 138 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: don't really have a competitive national party anymore. So they 139 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: are more and more dependent on this group, because as 140 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: the rest of their support starts to collapse, they again 141 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: become more dependent on this extremist portion. 142 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: So from the Republican standpoint, we have been I think 143 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: pointing this out. We've been very adamant to come out 144 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: and say the Democrats are now socialists. 145 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: But is that the right move. 146 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Because if you do end up with a fully socialist 147 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: Democrat Party and a two party system, you are trending 148 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: towards socialism as a country. 149 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's obviously there is a risk here 150 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: that's involved, But by the same token, I think we 151 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: don't do a service to the truth and to the 152 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: country to not point out the reality. I mean, it's 153 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: so funny that a party that is so believing that 154 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: you can identify yourself as whatever you want and we 155 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: have to accept it, is now kind of implicitly saying 156 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: that these people who call themselves Democrat socialists, whether it's 157 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: a Bernie Sanders, where there's a man Damie, whether it's 158 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: Katie Wilson in Seattle, that they're somehow not what they 159 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: call themselves. And yet we're supposed to believe that anyone 160 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: else who self identifies as anything they want, we have 161 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: to accept that. But we're not supposed to accept something 162 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: that they're so upfront about in their political views. 163 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: Where does this lead the country? 164 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: Though? 165 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: It seems as though people were concerned and with Obama 166 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: taking us down this path, and it feels like it 167 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: started there and then we had kind of this comeback 168 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, but that pushed us even deeper into 169 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: this socialism. Socialism has been I mean, people have been 170 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: trying to bring it to the United States for years 171 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: they had some success early on. We staved it off 172 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: for a few decades, but now it's really come back. 173 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think we can take heart. There are two 174 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: truisms I think here. One is that in theory, there's 175 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: no greater allure than socialism because it promises something for nothing. 176 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: But in practice there's no greater repellent than socialism because 177 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: it actually delivers nothing for something. And you know, I 178 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: think we're about to get two case studies in Seattle 179 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: and in New York. If these two candidates are what 180 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: they say they are and intend to do what they've 181 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: promised to do, I think you're going to see this 182 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: play out. And in certain respects, while it will not 183 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: be good for Seattle, it will not be good for 184 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: New York City, it may be good for the rest 185 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: of the country to actually see what we have forgotten 186 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: that socialism looks like, because you know, we have an 187 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: establishment media that loves to ignore the fact that we 188 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: have socialism in the country in the world. You know, 189 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: Yet no one wants to really talk about the failure 190 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: that is Cuba, the failure that is Venezuela, the failure 191 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: that is North Korea. I mean, these are basket cases 192 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: and no one wants to attribute it to their their 193 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: political forms, but that's the reality. And I think for 194 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: also for a lot of Americans, since the fall of 195 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: the Soviet Union, we haven't had a hot adversary that 196 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: was a socialist country, you know now for decades, so 197 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: out of sight has been out of mind. 198 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 199 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We've seen a lot of this 200 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: in Germany where these mayors have taken control of these 201 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: cities and they're turning more and more socialists. And then 202 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean they've gone very far left. You see this 203 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: in the UK where they're going very far left. I 204 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: mean they're arresting people who are posting things on Facebook. Now, 205 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: this is this is becoming extremism. How does the United 206 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: States differ from a European country. Do we have more 207 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: protection because of the way the government is set up, 208 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: with the federal government in the States and all of 209 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: that is able to suppress these mayors. Because my fear 210 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: is we don't just see that these cities collapse. These 211 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: cities kind of expand and we can't tamp them down 212 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: over time. 213 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: Right, And I think you make a great point we 214 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: do have safety nets here. We have a unique governmental system. Obviously, 215 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 3: we have a constitution that, despite what the left will say, 216 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 3: is still robust, it still offers great protections to not 217 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: only to us as citizens, but to our states. The 218 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 3: federal structure is absolutely fantastic because we do get case studies, 219 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: fifty of them in how government can and should work, 220 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: or how it can't work and shouldn't work. And we 221 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: saw this to a great degree, obviously do during the pandemic, 222 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: where we had states that were draconianly shutting down, closing 223 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: their schools for untoward periods of time, well beyond anything 224 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: that had any rationale, and yet you had other states 225 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: that were doing just the opposite you are you're seeing 226 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: in these states. Obviously, we have different tax rates. You know, 227 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: we have states that have zero income taxes that are 228 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: experiencing huge growth, and we are have states such as 229 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 3: New York and California and New Jersey that have extremely 230 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: high tax rates that are losing populations, They're losing investments. 231 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: And again, going back, I think, sadly, if this is 232 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: what mom Donnie is planning to do in New York 233 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: City and ray is what are already among the highest 234 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: tax rates in the country. Even further, you're going to 235 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: see more of this, and I think this will put 236 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: an example in front of people's eyes. For those who 237 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: have any doubt as to the paucity that is socialism 238 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: and the poverty that socialism actually brings, I think they're 239 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: going to see it sadly play out, and while other 240 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: segments of the country are insulated from it. And I 241 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: do take some hope if we remember way back in 242 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: our history in nineteen seventy two, the Democrat Party lurched 243 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: extraordinarily for life for that time period with George McGovern 244 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: and they suffered a cataclysmic defeat. So there is the 245 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: possibility that we see the same thing. Perhaps the Democrats 246 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: continue to do this and they do elevate someone of 247 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: this ilk. Obviously it cannot be mom Donnie himself, he 248 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: was born in Uganda. But do you nominate someone who's 249 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: so far to the left that the country actually just 250 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: completely rebels and the Democrat Party has to actually say, 251 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: we have to get our own house in order we 252 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: have to purge it of these people who are not 253 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: the traditional Democrats that most of the country remembers. 254 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Do you think there's anyone feeling that way in the 255 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Democrat Party right now, that they're fractured and that they 256 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: have to cut off the dead weight. I mean, they've 257 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: gone pretty extreme. Their socialism is not just about government 258 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: program because it's also about changing kids, genders and some 259 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: of these radical things. Is that the country as a 260 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: whole has pushed back on those radical policies. However, this 261 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: idea of free stuff is, as you said, very alluring. 262 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Is there a way to cut that dead weight if 263 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: you're the Democrat Party right now or do you have 264 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: to kind of go through this next cycle and see 265 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: where it goes. 266 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: I think we're seeing the purging already. I mean, you 267 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: think the two people who basically stood between the country 268 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: and even worse Biden policies in the last Congress, and 269 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: they were Christen Cinema and they were Joe Manchin. Both 270 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: of them have gone. They're left. I mean the party 271 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: left them more than they left the party. Obviously we're 272 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: speaking as Republicans and conservatives here, but we also have 273 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: a memory there used to be conservative Democrats that you 274 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: were opposed on partisan grounds but not philosophical grounds. And 275 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: I think as they continued to purge, I mean you 276 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 3: look at right now, at Fetterman from Pennsylvania, he seems 277 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: like he's a lone voice of sanity within his own party, 278 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: and obviously his party is turning on him as well. 279 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: So I don't know that they are done getting rid 280 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 3: of the people who opposed them. But again, you know, 281 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 3: you go back to nineteen seventy two. They did the 282 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: same thing, you know, half a century ago and failed 283 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: so tremendously that it was unignorable, and I think the 284 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 3: same thing could well be on the way for the 285 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: Democrats now. You cannot keep building a party on a philosophy, 286 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: on the ideological minority. I mean, right now, fifty four 287 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 3: percent of Democrats are liberals, but in the country as 288 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: a whole, only twenty three percent of Americans are liberals. 289 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: That's those numbers are from Gallup and from Exit polar. 290 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: If you continue to build a party on a ideological minority, 291 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: you are moving towards political suicide. 292 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: What do you think is the biggest manipulation of this 293 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: socialist message, The biggest manipulation and yet the most alluring part. 294 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 3: Well, I think again, you know it writ large is 295 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: that we're going to give you again to look at 296 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: back at what mom Donnie has been promising, We're going 297 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: to give you free bosses. We're going to give you 298 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: government childcare, We're going to give you government housing. We're 299 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: going to give you a government grocery store. It's all free, free, free, free. Well, 300 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: as we all know, when something styles too good to 301 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: be true, it usually is too good to be true. Sadly, 302 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: I think we're going to have to see this play 303 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: out that people realize. Anyone whoever wanted to see what 304 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: a government run grocery store looks like, go check the 305 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: store shelves and Venzuela, go check the store shelves and 306 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: North Korea or Cuba, and you'll see what government runs. 307 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: How do we get them to see that? 308 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: Because people don't actually, I mean a lot of these 309 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: people never travel outside of the US, and certainly not 310 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: to these areas because you wouldn't travel, I mean, you 311 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: can't even go to North Korea, right, so you don't 312 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: get the chance to see what the effect of socialism is. 313 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: And even though we have people who've come into the 314 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: United States from those countries who are saying, whoa, whoa, 315 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: you don't want this, it seems like the youth of 316 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: this country is trending toward we want government to be 317 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: the biggest employer. We want giant government. Government is going 318 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: to take care of us. Government is lovely. How did 319 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: this happen? 320 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: Right? Well, obviously you look at where those where those 321 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: ideologues are coming from, and often they're coming from, sadly, 322 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: our elite universities or so called elite universities that have 323 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: promised them the same things that live on big endowments, 324 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: that don't support themselves, that live off the subsidization of 325 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: donors and trust funds, and I think you see the 326 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: same thing. You know, they inculcate that into the people 327 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: that they supposedly educate. And back to your question, yes, 328 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: they can't go and wouldn't want to go, ironically enough, 329 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 3: to the places where there are government run grocery stores. 330 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: But mom Dama is promising to bring government run grocery 331 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: stores to New York. Let's see how that works out. 332 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: So if we if we do see and this is 333 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: a total disaster, how do you And then this comes 334 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: back up because I see this oftentimes with young people 335 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: who are even people my own family, who are saying, 336 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, you're on the wrong side of this. This 337 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: is the future it's never been done right. You've heard 338 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: that argument, it's never been done right. What is your 339 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: counter argument to that? I mean, because I think a 340 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: lot of people want to say, no, you're crazy. They 341 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: just don't have the facts to back it up. I mean, 342 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: I know Venezuela and North Korea, but what can you 343 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: say to students in the United States to get them 344 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: to understand why this doesn't really work there? Where do 345 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: you get the funding for all of this? And yeah, 346 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: they'll say, we'll just take it from the billionaires, But 347 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: especially in the United States of America, the billionaires are 348 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: able to move away from that unless I guess the 349 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: idea over time is eventually you take over the entire country, 350 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: you become a completely socialist nation. That would mean that 351 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: there is really very few There are really very few 352 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: freedoms in the world, because the United States is kind 353 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: of like the beacon of freedom, especially for business and entrepreneurship. 354 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: And then what happens over time you just have no 355 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: billionaires And really people go, oh, we don't want billionaires, 356 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: but billionaires are the job creators. That's why we have 357 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: so much success in this country. Why is that lost 358 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: on people? 359 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: Well, again, I think it's always that sorrow and song 360 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: of socialism. That look all the fact, all the facts, 361 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: not with standing that it's never worked anywhere, at any time, 362 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: in any country, in any continent, we can make it work. 363 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: We're that much smarter than the whole rest of humans, 364 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: history and experience put together. That, I mean, that's got 365 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: to be your first argument against this of show me 366 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: one example where it has worked and hasn't run a 367 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: foul of economics and political freedom. I don't know of any. 368 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Well, then they come back to you and they go, 369 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: but this isn't socialism, this is democratic socialism. 370 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: Well what's the difference. 371 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there is. And that's the whole 372 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: point once you do what socialism is, and socialism is 373 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: really government monopoly's that's what it is all about. It's 374 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: monopolizing the economy, taking the means of production. That's what 375 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: socialism is, always has been, always will be. And that 376 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: is the road they have to go down because as 377 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 3: their programs fail, they take more and more of the 378 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: economy under control. Imagining, if we take the surpluses from 379 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: this sector or from another sector, or from that individual 380 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: or these individuals, we can fund ourselves for a little 381 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: bit longer, and they'll get a little bump as you 382 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 3: take and use other peoples, but they cannot replicate the 383 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 3: rate of return needed to keep the system going. And 384 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: that's what we saw with the Soviet Union. You see 385 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: it everywhere. They actually devolved down into basically a little 386 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: more than subsistence economies because there is no incentive to produce. 387 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: You take away the money from the billionaires, you take 388 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: away the reason for and it's not just the billionaires, 389 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: but you take away the incentive for the tutor Dixs 390 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: of the world to go to work and work hard 391 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: every day and make her version of the surplus that's 392 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: added to other peoples. You take that away, and suddenly 393 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: the system grinds to a halt. Because you know, there 394 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: used to be the old joke in the Soviet Union 395 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: they we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us. 396 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: And you know that if you ever traveled back there, 397 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: you saw it in spades. You know, people going through 398 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: the motions, living on black market economies underneath the official economies. 399 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: And of course in the black market economies, that's where 400 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: capitalism was actually flourishing as people circumvented the official system 401 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: and you're going to see the same thing. You'll see 402 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: the same thing replicated. When you take away people's incentive 403 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: to work hard, retain what they've earned, and control the 404 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: destiny of themselves and their families, they always devolve down 405 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: into this collapse of incentive to do anything at all. 406 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 407 00:24:53,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. How capable will Mom Donnie Bee 408 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: of bringing true socialist policies into New York City or 409 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: will this be stopped by the governor there. 410 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't put any hope in Governor Hkel because I 411 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: was just reading yesterday that while she had said that 412 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: earlier in the campaign that she would prevent tax increases 413 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: for New York City, now she was saying that she 414 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: was considering tax increases for New York City. So again, 415 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 3: I think the Democrats, and you remember Katie Hokeel is 416 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: Kathy Hokel is running for governor herself. She needs those 417 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: eight million votes that are in New York that just 418 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: elected Mom Donnie as mayor. She needs those I mean, 419 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: look back at what happened in twenty twenty four, Kamala 420 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: Harris won New York City by virtually a million votes. 421 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: That was where she racked up, and she didn't do 422 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: as well as Democrats have the past, But she also 423 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: won New York State by about the same million votes. 424 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: So a Democrat to be competitive in New York State 425 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: has to have that huge Democrat surpluse. So Hukel is 426 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: not in a position to say she's not going to 427 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 3: support Mom Donnie because she's afraid she'll lose Mom Donnie 428 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: supporters in the governatorial election next year. 429 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: Wow, So that's scary. 430 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: So we may actually see a true socialist experiment in 431 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: our largest and probably the world's most important financial city. 432 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: We could potentially see this, and then you know, maybe 433 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: that's maybe that's what the United States needs as a 434 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: wake up call. I think it's a very dangerous wake 435 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: up call. We feel it's scary because it could ultimately 436 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: change how the country operates and how the Democrat Party 437 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: operates if they see this as a success for the 438 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: first two years, it could really impact how the midterms 439 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: are and who runs in the midterms, and then ultimately 440 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: who's running in twenty eight. 441 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 3: Right, No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, Tutor, and 442 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: I have this certainly is the fear that when you 443 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: start to go down this road. And obviously, Mom, Donnie 444 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 3: is a very slick salesman. This is a political neophyte 445 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: who managed to knock off the incumbent Democrat mayor and 446 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: then a former Democrat governor. Those are not inconsequential political victory. 447 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: So I'm not saying there's a reason that they call 448 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: them snake oil sales because they could sell snake oil. 449 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: And I think that's what he's done here. Now, whether 450 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: he can get people to actually drink this, you know, 451 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: what they've bought, or continue to drink it is a 452 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: whole different question. And how far is he really interested? 453 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: Has he already attained what he wants he's now mayor 454 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: does he really care or did he use this as 455 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: a means to get it's the political victory he got, 456 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: and then he can he can always say well, I 457 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: wanted to do it, but I was blocked by the 458 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 3: city council, I was blocked by the state legislator. The 459 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: governor didn't support. You know, does he look Do you 460 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: think a. 461 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: Guy like that shrinks back? I think he is. I 462 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: think he'd like to be governor. And I want to 463 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: ask you about AOC because everybody is saying that Schumer 464 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: is concerned about her running for his seat. And that's 465 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: the real that's the real conundrum that everybody's in right 466 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: now is can you keep Chuck Schumer in his seat? 467 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Or is she going to take the Senate seat? I 468 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: think she wants to run for president. Do you think 469 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: that she's looking for the Senate seat or do you 470 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: think she's looking for the big White House and everything 471 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: that comes along with that. 472 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: It's a good question, and I would I would never 473 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: want to get into AOC's head. I would be so 474 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: afraid I wouldn't get out again. And I think I 475 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: would find it very lonely in there as well. But 476 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: that you know, I would think, in all honesty that 477 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: his Chuck Schumer's seat is hers for the taking if 478 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: she wants it. I don't know why she wouldn't. It 479 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: would give her a heightened platform, and it would be 480 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: the normal political course for most people. Now again, we're 481 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: talking about people who call themselves Democrat socialists, and that's 482 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: not a normal political course in America. But to leap 483 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: frog from being a candidly a backbencher with no real 484 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: governing experience, I mean, she's not chairman of a Committee. 485 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: She's you know, she's still a backbencher in the House 486 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: of Representatives. That's a leap to run as a presidential candidate. 487 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: You just don't see that. I think she could raise money, 488 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: and I think she could raise a lot of the engine, 489 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: and she could raise interest. But why not, at her age, 490 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: take the next step and move into the Senate And 491 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: let's be candid. The Senate is a body of talkers, 492 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: I mean, and AOC it was Taylor made for someone 493 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: who can get up and talk indefinitely, and I think 494 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: she can. So it would be a perfect moving, a 495 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: perfect move for her, rather than to try to jump 496 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: in and run for president. But I think you're absolutely right. 497 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: I mean, Chuck Schumer's terrified. Oh yeah, And I wouldn't 498 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: be surprised if Schumer actually decides as we saw. You know, 499 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi has announced her retirement. And if you notice, 500 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: she was challenged months ago by who she was challenged 501 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: by a former AOC staffer who's running against her, and 502 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: you know, pinpointing her age and that she's out of touch. 503 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: And Pelosi, right upon the heels of Mondani winning in 504 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: New York, announced her retirement. I think a lot of 505 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: Democrats see the handwriting on the wall. I wouldn't be 506 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: surprised that Chuck Schumer does as well. You know, obviously 507 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: saying you're not going to run makes you a lame duck. 508 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: It would immediately right in him a Senate Minority leader. 509 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: So I don't know that he makes that decision that 510 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 3: publicly that soon, but I could easily see where people 511 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: are talking to him, and they're within his camp saying, Chuck, 512 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: the numbers just aren't here well, and. 513 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: They I think they really missed the younger generation, and 514 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: I blame them for what's happened in the Democrat Party. 515 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: Nancy PELUSI wouldn't give up power. She never brought anybody 516 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: else in. She thought she could hold the squad at bay. 517 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: And you can see almost her holding her hand out 518 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: and on their foreheads and having them kind of run 519 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: in circles until suddenly she really is too old to 520 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: continue to stay. 521 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: In her position. 522 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean she's in her eighties. Chuck Schumer is almost eighty. 523 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: They have not let anybody else take that power and 524 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: step up into a leadership position, and that's their own fault. 525 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: So now they have this rise of the twenty and 526 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: thirty year olds who are They have been indoctrinated by 527 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: these universities. They have been brought into this socialist policy narrative. 528 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: And I think that if you look back, history will 529 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: say that ultimately what Nancy Pelosi thought she was protecting 530 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party from, she gave them a wide open 531 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: space for socialism to come in and take over her 532 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: party because of her own desire for personal power. 533 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: And I ask. 534 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: People who are listening to this podcast to check out 535 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: your book so that they can understand a little bit 536 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: more about how this happened. The book again is called 537 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: Unprecedented Assault, How big Government unleashed America's socialist left. Where 538 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: can they get it? 539 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: Well, you can go to the website Jtdashyong dot com. 540 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: It will give you all the particulars on the book, 541 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: the reviews, which I'm very grateful that have been very 542 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: favorable to the book. Obviously, you could order it from 543 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: Amazon or any number of places wherever you would buy 544 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: your books. 545 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, thank you for sharing your 546 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: knowledge on socialism with us today. J. T. 547 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: Young. It was great talking to you you. 548 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: Too, Tutor. I really enjoyed it. 549 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you all for listening to the 550 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon podcast. Make sure you head over to the 551 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts 552 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: to listen again, and you can also watch the full 553 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: video on Rumble or YouTube at tutor Dixon and join 554 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: us next time. Hop a blasted day.