Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie podcast, your
Speaker 1: go to source for all things movies. I'm your host
Speaker 1: Movie Mike and actually don't have a new episode for
Speaker 1: you guys this week. I'm actually on my honeymoon right now,
Speaker 1: but I did want to play back a very special
Speaker 1: episode with my friend Mentor and hosted the Bobby Bones Show,
Speaker 1: the one and only Bobby Bones. But being the neurotic
Speaker 1: person that I am, I wanted to give you guys
Speaker 1: at least a little bit something new and something pretty
Speaker 1: big happened in the last week that I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about, but also just give the
Speaker 1: kind of origin story of Bobby and I work relationship, friendship,
Speaker 1: and now I was actually a part of his wedding.
Speaker 1: So of course he's gonna come on the show next
Speaker 1: week when we're back from vacation and talk about the
Speaker 1: wedding in details. So I'm not gonna tell any of
Speaker 1: his part of the wedding, but I will share a
Speaker 1: little bit as far as me being involved in it.
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to the very beginning
Speaker 1: of how I met Bobby and if you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with my story, how I became a part of the
Speaker 1: show and how Bobby and I became friends. It actually
Speaker 1: all started with a message I sent him on my Space.
Speaker 1: This was like eleven years ago. I was trying to
Speaker 1: start a podcast at the time, and I had just
Speaker 1: moved to Austin, Texas from Marcacachi. I was going to
Speaker 1: college there, and I specifically remember the first time I
Speaker 1: ever heard Bobby on the radio. He used to be
Speaker 1: on Kiss FM back in Austin, and I was driving
Speaker 1: to class and I heard a conversation. It was Bobby
Speaker 1: talking about he had recently turned a thirty or thirty one,
Speaker 1: the age I am now, which is kind of crazy,
Speaker 1: and he was saying he was beginning to think he
Speaker 1: was too old to wear a baseball hat backwards. And
Speaker 1: there was that whole debate they were having on the air,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, that was I've never really
Speaker 1: heard that on the radio before, a guy being really
Speaker 1: sincere and real. So from that very first conversation I heard,
Speaker 1: I kept listening to the show, and throughout listening to
Speaker 1: the show, I started hearing about these interns and you know,
Speaker 1: if you're a way way back in the day listener,
Speaker 1: the show used to be really big on having interns,
Speaker 1: and they would get new ones with every class and
Speaker 1: with the way they would talk about him on the air,
Speaker 1: they were basically a part of the show. If you
Speaker 1: could work your way up to like the head intern spot,
Speaker 1: you were basically a member of the show. And I
Speaker 1: heard all these college kids on the radio and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I kind of want to
Speaker 1: do that. And after listening to the show for a
Speaker 1: year just being a listener, and then I also wanted
Speaker 1: to start my own podcast. So, you know what, I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I'll message him on my Space and
Speaker 1: see if he could just give me some advice on
Speaker 1: how to start one. He's been doing this forever and
Speaker 1: podcasts were still relatively new at the time this is
Speaker 1: they're nothing what they are like now. So I messaged
Speaker 1: him asking for some advice. Bobby messaged me back pretty
Speaker 1: quickly and said, you know what, just come up to
Speaker 1: the radio station and watch like thirty minutes of the
Speaker 1: show and you can kind of see how we do
Speaker 1: it live, and you know that would be your notes.
Speaker 1: Take that back and start a podcast. So while I
Speaker 1: was there, I met the executive producer at the time, Elena,
Speaker 1: and I also met with all the interns there, and
Speaker 1: from that moment, I was like, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is what I want to do. I figured out how
Speaker 1: to get an internship. I did that for probably a
Speaker 1: year and a halfter two years. I found a way
Speaker 1: just to stay there. And I think it was during
Speaker 1: that internship where Bobby was able to kind of see
Speaker 1: my work ethic. I was there all the time, and
Speaker 1: he took note of that. He gave me more and
Speaker 1: more responsibility. The more it could take on and the
Speaker 1: more I kind of proved myself. And I remember specifically
Speaker 1: the day they said they were moving to Nashville, and
Speaker 1: he sat me down and was like, we don't have
Speaker 1: a spot for you right now, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: send back for you and you will come to us
Speaker 1: in Nashville when there was a spot available for you.
Speaker 1: And I remember that and I believed him, and in
Speaker 1: my head, I always knew that I was going to
Speaker 1: be a part of the show. I just saw it
Speaker 1: in my I wanted it so badly that I knew
Speaker 1: was going to happen, and I believed his word. And
Speaker 1: it was through the show moving to Nashville, me staying
Speaker 1: in Austin, and I still worked in the radio station.
Speaker 1: Bobby actually got me my first job there. I was
Speaker 1: running the show locally here while I was in Austin,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of through that time where I
Speaker 1: was there and they were here for the first few
Speaker 1: years that Bobby and I became more friends, to the
Speaker 1: point where I kind of started this podcast on my
Speaker 1: Snapchat at the time. I would review things on Snapchat
Speaker 1: and Bobby would see them and actually be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: send me that audio and I'll play it on our show.
Speaker 1: Like I was not a part of the main show
Speaker 1: in Nashville, but I was sending him bits in a way,
Speaker 1: So we kind of built our friendship there, and obviously
Speaker 1: every time they would come to Austin, we would still
Speaker 1: hang out until the day finally came where I moved
Speaker 1: to Nashville, and that was really where things kind of
Speaker 1: got real. I lived with him for the first few
Speaker 1: months living in Nashville, and we started to get really
Speaker 1: close as we started to work on the show and
Speaker 1: kind of build what the show is today. And it
Speaker 1: was mainly because he trusted me a lot and believed
Speaker 1: in me to give me a type of responsibility that
Speaker 1: no one has ever had before. And while this is
Speaker 1: all going on, I'm getting more things in my career.
Speaker 1: We also start traveling a lot together, and I mean
Speaker 1: we went hard for probably like two years. We spent
Speaker 1: more time with each other than anybody else in our lives.
Speaker 1: We were going NonStop doing the radio show, comedy tours.
Speaker 1: He gave me a spot on his comedy tour. Opening up.
Speaker 1: I went from being only able to say I've been
Speaker 1: to like three states now close to forty something. And
Speaker 1: even though Bobby is like eleven years older than me,
Speaker 1: I felt like we kind of grew up together during
Speaker 1: that time. And it was mainly through us kind of
Speaker 1: being in the same point of our lives of like
Speaker 1: trying to find somebody, trying to find a relationship. And
Speaker 1: I remember having many conversations with him where he gave
Speaker 1: me guidance, where I listened to what he had going
Speaker 1: on his personal life and trying to date. And I
Speaker 1: was there through a lot of it up until now
Speaker 1: and even leading up to how both of our kind
Speaker 1: of lives have changed in the past two years of
Speaker 1: being in serious relationships. We got engaged within a week
Speaker 1: from each other, and then we both got married within
Speaker 1: a month from each other. It was crazy to see
Speaker 1: him actually get married, and how we both kind of
Speaker 1: went from this life of utter chaos and not having
Speaker 1: anything consistent in our lives so now both being able
Speaker 1: to settle down with somebody who truly makes us both happy.
Speaker 1: And what I took away most from that day of
Speaker 1: his wedding was I've never seen him that happy. Like
Speaker 1: I've seen things that make him happy here and there,
Speaker 1: but nothing the way he is now. And as odd
Speaker 1: as it sounds, how human he appears now to be
Speaker 1: and just to be able to enjoy things is a
Speaker 1: big thing for him. And that's something I saw a
Speaker 1: lot on his wedding day. To look on his face
Speaker 1: was something I've never really seen before, to where he
Speaker 1: was completely living in the moment, and I can tell
Speaker 1: he was just overjoyed and said the word I love you,
Speaker 1: that phrase so many times it was amazing to hear.
Speaker 1: For a person who had never really said that to
Speaker 1: anybody in his life to now kind of go around and,
Speaker 1: you know, tell a bunch of people that the way
Speaker 1: he actually feels. And he asked me maybe six months
Speaker 1: or so ago to be a groomsman in his wedding,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of in that moment I realized
Speaker 1: how our relationship went from being an intern on the
Speaker 1: show to being a member of the show to becoming
Speaker 1: friends and him kind of also being at the same
Speaker 1: time my mentor and guiding me through all this stuff
Speaker 1: that in that moment, I felt like I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that we became family, and not only everybody on the show,
Speaker 1: but even you guys listening, like I feel like a
Speaker 1: part of a different family that I didn't realize I had.
Speaker 1: When I moved to Nashville, I didn't know anybody. I
Speaker 1: lived with Bobby and his dog, Dusty at the time,
Speaker 1: was like the first friend I made moving to Nashville.
Speaker 1: And when he asked me to be a part of
Speaker 1: his wedding and then going on the bachelor party, I
Speaker 1: felt something I never felt before of being a part
Speaker 1: of a group. The whole time, I was kind of
Speaker 1: like searching for somebody here and feeling like I didn't
Speaker 1: have friends, and I didn't realize that I had it
Speaker 1: the whole time. And it was standing up there as
Speaker 1: he's saying his vows is he's getting married, that this
Speaker 1: all kind of set in with me. How sometimes you
Speaker 1: don't realize the relationships you're building and the things that
Speaker 1: you're doing are like really fundamental and are really kind
Speaker 1: of building onto the bigger picture. You don't realize how
Speaker 1: much other people affect you and how much you kind
Speaker 1: of become a part of each other's lives. So it
Speaker 1: really meant a lot of me to be a part
Speaker 1: of that day that he would consider me an essential
Speaker 1: part of his life, to stand out there with him,
Speaker 1: and realizing now that he and Caitlin are probably going
Speaker 1: to be in my life for the entire time that
Speaker 1: I am living, so that that just says a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm really happy for them. I'm also really happy that
Speaker 1: he's also on his honeymoon right now and able to
Speaker 1: take a break away from work and enjoy being married now.
Speaker 1: So all that to say, he's come a long way
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of him and happy for him. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to share this episode that we recorded last year,
Speaker 1: talking about some of his favorite movies, the time he
Speaker 1: had a small role in a big Hollywood production, and
Speaker 1: how much he made to be in a movie called
Speaker 1: Band Slam. So I will be act next week with
Speaker 1: the new episode. Also, if you're a listener of The
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones Show, we'll be back live next week. So
Speaker 1: if you haven't heard this episode, hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you again soon. In a world where
Speaker 1: everyone and their mother has a podcast, one man stands
Speaker 1: to infiltrate the ears of listeners like never before in
Speaker 1: a movie podcast. A man with so much movie knowledge.
Speaker 1: He's basically like a walking on MTV with classes from
Speaker 1: the Nashville Podcast Network Movie Movie Podcast. All right, joining
Speaker 1: me now on the podcast, we have Bobby Bones. Never
Speaker 1: heard of this guy. I've never interviewed you before, so
Speaker 1: it'll be a bit different today. Well, I tend to
Speaker 1: uh take it my own way, so feel free to
Speaker 1: stop me. But let me start by saying that, Okay,
Speaker 1: I started watching the movie about the Beastie Boys last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know this is a movie podcast. I started it
Speaker 1: last night too. I don't like how. I don't like
Speaker 1: how they put it together, how it's a lie show.
Speaker 1: I want a documentary the Best Boys. Yeah, that got
Speaker 1: me a bit off from and I was trying to
Speaker 1: watch with Kalin and I would have been into it
Speaker 1: enough to sit through all of it like that, but
Speaker 1: that was a struggle for her. I just I don't
Speaker 1: like how it's format it now. I only watched again,
Speaker 1: probably a sixth of its well, because she wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 1: She didn't know the guys on stage. I think if
Speaker 1: it were a documentary, a good documentary you can watch
Speaker 1: without knowing anything personally about it. You can just jump
Speaker 1: in and go, I'm learning something. But you kind of
Speaker 1: needed to know who those guys were when they're out,
Speaker 1: because if you haven't seen it yet, you probably haven't
Speaker 1: because I'm a big Beastie Boys fan and I had
Speaker 1: it until last night. There it's a in a theater
Speaker 1: and it's a live recording of the Beastie Boys showing
Speaker 1: pictures and telling stories of their life. Does it ever
Speaker 1: get more as a documentary or does it stay like that?
Speaker 1: It stays like I've watched an hour of it and
Speaker 1: it stays like that the whole time, and I think
Speaker 1: it's still interesting. But yeah, like you said, it feels
Speaker 1: like you're not really getting the whole story because they're
Speaker 1: kind of just telling it and lets you know them already.
Speaker 1: You don't feel it's connected, like, oh, you could just
Speaker 1: go into this without knowing anything about them. And I
Speaker 1: love the Beasto Boys, one of the most influential musical
Speaker 1: groups of my life when it comes to how I
Speaker 1: modeled any of my career, not not just broadcasting, but
Speaker 1: the music. I like the music that I do kind
Speaker 1: of funny, and for a while I was a funny
Speaker 1: hip hop artist and you know, being a white kid,
Speaker 1: and you see other white guys that were funny but
Speaker 1: could still be cool. So uh, yeah, I'm not through
Speaker 1: one on how you felt about that? Will you finish
Speaker 1: with them? I will, but I won't with her. I'll
Speaker 1: probably finish it tonight. Did your girl watch it with you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: She liked it, but she likes yeah. Okay, Well that's all.
Speaker 1: That's my movie topic that I brought in for discussion.
Speaker 1: But I'm not all the way there yet, so I'll
Speaker 1: give you an update later. All right. So what I
Speaker 1: want to do is get to know you more through movies.
Speaker 1: So I guess I want to know your favorite movies
Speaker 1: from your life and like why they affected you. And
Speaker 1: you call them your favorite movies. Well, it's interesting because
Speaker 1: I'm not a movie guy as much as you are
Speaker 1: this as much as I'm not. Just I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess I watch them, but I never really care to
Speaker 1: sit down for that long, um, unless it was a
Speaker 1: true story I could get more. It's like books. I
Speaker 1: can very much get into a non fiction book because
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm learning. Even if it's not great
Speaker 1: a great book, I still feel like I'm learning. I
Speaker 1: would compare all my media consumption for movies or books
Speaker 1: like to The Queen's. Other movie that that ss on
Speaker 1: Netflix is called The Queen The Crown. Yeah, the Crown,
Speaker 1: thank you, because it's kind of boring, but it's just
Speaker 1: good enough. But because you're learning, you stay in. That's
Speaker 1: how I kind of feel about my movie. So I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this. My top three movies at number
Speaker 1: three is probably Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Oh interesting
Speaker 1: because not since I to watch over and over again.
Speaker 1: But that's not in my criteria for best movies. My
Speaker 1: criteria is stages of my life, movies that affected me
Speaker 1: the most in what way? And Bill and Ted's Excellent
Speaker 1: Adventure was met for two reasons. One because it was funny,
Speaker 1: but two I learned something in it because in this movie,
Speaker 1: Bill and Ted are two idiot kids who have to
Speaker 1: go back in time to create, uh like an spoken
Speaker 1: report in a theater to pass, and if they don't
Speaker 1: get a great or so, they fail out of school
Speaker 1: and I I have to go to boarding school. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it so long, I'm yeah. So what they do
Speaker 1: is they find this time machine with George Carlin and
Speaker 1: they go back through history and they meet all these
Speaker 1: famous people and Napoleon, which I was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: know a little about Napoleon, but maybe you want to
Speaker 1: learn more about Napoleon. Um so creates who's also Socrate?
Speaker 1: Who I So you learn about all these folks, uh
Speaker 1: Joan of Arc, Abraham Lincoln as you're laughing and it's
Speaker 1: a really stupid movie. I also felt myself learned name
Speaker 1: and that for the much much of my life. I
Speaker 1: told us probably nineteen or twenty was my favorite movie.
Speaker 1: I was just that was it. That's what I just
Speaker 1: stuck with. The movie came out nine were probably nine.
Speaker 1: Did you watch it when it came out or would
Speaker 1: you watch it later? Like it's a teenager? Probably when
Speaker 1: it came out to rent because we really couldn't afford
Speaker 1: to go to the movie. Um I went to as
Speaker 1: a young kid, I would say twelve or below. I
Speaker 1: probably went to two movies, and it was they were both.
Speaker 1: When my mom met my stepdad, he took me to
Speaker 1: watch The Babe with John Goodman because we were both
Speaker 1: big baseball fans and white Man Can't Jump and enjoyed
Speaker 1: both of them, and they were sports movies, and that's
Speaker 1: really how we bonded was through sports. But I can't
Speaker 1: really remember going to any movie other than him taking
Speaker 1: me to my first movies at twelve, and those were
Speaker 1: the two that I went to. I guess that was
Speaker 1: the same way because I remember I had I didn't
Speaker 1: go to the movies a lot as a kid, but
Speaker 1: I had a cousin who would get everything on VA. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of where I got all my movies from.
Speaker 1: Like I'd be like, oh, yeah, all these movies I
Speaker 1: get to watch now. Yeah, we would go to on
Speaker 1: because what would happen at the movie store, which was
Speaker 1: on the way to town. You could stop at the
Speaker 1: movie store and you could rent a movie on Friday
Speaker 1: and pay the and you get to keep it till Sunday. However,
Speaker 1: if you went on Saturday in the movies were left
Speaker 1: over because Saturday wasn't a big, big rental day because
Speaker 1: it only got one day to keep it. Like Thursday
Speaker 1: was Friday, Wednesday was Thursday, but Friday was you can
Speaker 1: bring back Sunday. You got that extra day because it
Speaker 1: was the same movie. You got a half off, so
Speaker 1: if you want so, we would go on a Saturday
Speaker 1: see what was left, and we rent movies from the
Speaker 1: you know, dollar ninety nine or dollar twenty nine movie rental.
Speaker 1: You never got the big ones. But I'm positive that
Speaker 1: I saw Bill and Ted on VHS for the first
Speaker 1: time and watched it a lot of I think, kind
Speaker 1: of buying it um which was crazy because I don't
Speaker 1: think we had a BCR for a lot of time.
Speaker 1: But that's at number three and that that's really the
Speaker 1: only movie that I'm bringing in from childhood. So Bill
Speaker 1: and Ted's excent a mature. That means Bill and Ted's
Speaker 1: two was okay, wasn't that great? It was Bill and
Speaker 1: Ted and the Grim Reaper was in it, Like I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I remember being excited for it to come out,
Speaker 1: watched on VHS and it was like it was okay.
Speaker 1: I still loved it was Bill and Ted, but there
Speaker 1: they just made Bill and Ted three. Yea, hopefully they
Speaker 1: finished it. Do we know if they finished it. I
Speaker 1: think it's what's close to being finished, but it's obviously delayed.
Speaker 1: To come out. Um, so that number three, that number two, Well,
Speaker 1: this is where it kind of got tricky with me, because, like,
Speaker 1: what movies just hit me the hardest. I guess because
Speaker 1: I definitely wouldn't put down movies I've seen the most
Speaker 1: as my favorite movies, because that would be something on
Speaker 1: TBS that I would stop. Hitch I've probably seen. I've
Speaker 1: probably seen Hitch more than any movie just because it's
Speaker 1: been on so many times. So I took that out
Speaker 1: of my sort of list of things I needed to
Speaker 1: have my favorite movie. So then I go, Okay, what movie.
Speaker 1: Just when I finished it, I was like, oh, and
Speaker 1: it had to. I guess I can put them ball
Speaker 1: the number two. But the one that almost made the
Speaker 1: list was Her. It didn't make the list. But the
Speaker 1: other one, the other one I want to pick it
Speaker 1: takes its spot is that movie. When it finished, I
Speaker 1: went today, I felt that because Her before I honorable mention.
Speaker 1: Her is about a guy who just can't find love
Speaker 1: because he's odd. So he finds love with an outside
Speaker 1: but it was an outsider. That's really the the over
Speaker 1: art of the story. It's not so much that's an
Speaker 1: operating system. That's a big part of it. But the
Speaker 1: real part of the story is guy doesn't fit in.
Speaker 1: He finds some other way to find somebody he loves
Speaker 1: and it turns out it's you know, basically, you're falling
Speaker 1: in love with Safari on your computer. Um. And so
Speaker 1: if you look at it from you know, above the
Speaker 1: forest instead of in the trees, it's a sad romantic story.
Speaker 1: If you look from the trades, the weird old guy
Speaker 1: who falls in love with a computer. UM. I loved
Speaker 1: her because when I turned it off, I was like, Dang,
Speaker 1: I kind of felt that I could never fit in,
Speaker 1: never had girls. Was always like I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: fall in love with something or someone different. Um. But
Speaker 1: I watched that and there's a great movie. I loved
Speaker 1: it that you either loved that or hat did that?
Speaker 1: Did Spike Jones do that movie? And he did The
Speaker 1: Beast two Boys? Documents were talking about but what did
Speaker 1: he do? Because he there's the documentary what does Spike
Speaker 1: Jones do? By I take it and watch it in
Speaker 1: the theater, I think he's like doing all the stage
Speaker 1: direction because they like call him out like during the
Speaker 1: later on, Okay, I must not the sound effects and
Speaker 1: like running the slides and all that he put all
Speaker 1: that together. Okay, I was gonna say a stage direction,
Speaker 1: they just stand up pictures. Um. So Her didn't make it.
Speaker 1: But this movie that gave me the same kind of
Speaker 1: feeling did which was Eternal Sunshine in the Spotless Mind,
Speaker 1: which is the Gym Carey movie. And I'm not a
Speaker 1: big Jim Carrey guy, but I'll watch that movie and
Speaker 1: it was would you eliminate all of these toxic, sad,
Speaker 1: unworthy feelings that you have accumulated? And with him it
Speaker 1: was her, um if you could, like would you or
Speaker 1: would you keep them all and grow from it? And
Speaker 1: it didn't hit me on a romantic level, but him
Speaker 1: me on a personal level was like, dang, I've been
Speaker 1: too much crap in my life. Would I get rid
Speaker 1: of that? Or would I am not? And you know,
Speaker 1: I thought about it for long, but because that movie
Speaker 1: made me think about it for a long time, I
Speaker 1: still think about that based on the movie. I may
Speaker 1: I may have only sent movie once or twice, but
Speaker 1: I'm just going from the lasting feeling that it gave
Speaker 1: me when it finished. So number two is Eternal Sunshine
Speaker 1: of the Spotless Mind. Because of I still feel a
Speaker 1: scar from that movie, like it cut me in the
Speaker 1: right way and the scar is still there. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen it? Yeah, I see, I've probably watched it
Speaker 1: pretty recently, like maybe within the year really, and it's
Speaker 1: I think it still holds up, and I remember it
Speaker 1: kind of hit me like that to that first line
Speaker 1: where he's like he's sitting on that train and that
Speaker 1: line he says about he falls in love with like
Speaker 1: any girl. I was like, dangn that kinda hit me
Speaker 1: pretty hard. See, I don't remember anything about it because
Speaker 1: I've only seen it once or twice, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it holds up. Almost don't want to watch
Speaker 1: it again because and in the same way i'd never
Speaker 1: listened to my favorite interviews on on the radio show.
Speaker 1: I don't want to remember it differently than I felt it,
Speaker 1: especially if I felt something that a feeling that was
Speaker 1: so distinct, like I can remember how I felt when
Speaker 1: the movie finished. So there are interviews in my career
Speaker 1: h Kevin Smith early John Mayer interviewed that we did
Speaker 1: my first timeime in too Garth Brooks. I won't go
Speaker 1: back and look at or listen to it anyway because
Speaker 1: I don't want to look at and go, oh, that's
Speaker 1: kind of stupid. I shouldn't have said that, or the
Speaker 1: same way with probably this movie unless someone just wanted
Speaker 1: to see it. I don't want to go back and
Speaker 1: go like this Mayvie kind of all his lame now,
Speaker 1: like it didn't hold up that well. So that's why
Speaker 1: I seeing a movie over and over doesn't have to
Speaker 1: fall into my category of my favorite movies. Now I'm
Speaker 1: pricing old school thirty times. You know, if we look
Speaker 1: at movies and go old school hitch comedies, you can
Speaker 1: kind of watch over and over. Yeah, they hold up
Speaker 1: a little bit better. Yeah, that's number two. Do you
Speaker 1: have any questions about that one? I think I want
Speaker 1: to get to number one. Well, and I'm just not
Speaker 1: a Jim Carrey fan and a hater, but my top
Speaker 1: two movies or Jim Carrey movies, yeah, listen, you like
Speaker 1: the series Team Carey though, right, because you know what
Speaker 1: would be in the top five if I were doing
Speaker 1: top five, would for sure be The Truman Show. It's
Speaker 1: not number one, but it's in that honorable mention because
Speaker 1: it's that you have to think outside of what you know,
Speaker 1: and then that's when it gets scary for people. Gets
Speaker 1: scary for me to like, I know what I can
Speaker 1: see in touch and been taught, but what if there's
Speaker 1: something that we have no idea. That's what Truman show is.
Speaker 1: He hasn't He's part of a freaking he was born.
Speaker 1: They're watching him the whole time. He has no idea,
Speaker 1: finally figures out, takes a big risk, could die, you know.
Speaker 1: And if you don't look at it as here's a
Speaker 1: guy on a boat going at the end going like,
Speaker 1: here's the guy that's risking everything to go find out
Speaker 1: what's true, people have to do that on a much
Speaker 1: larger level a lot of times, leaving their cultures, leaving
Speaker 1: and so that movie hit me pretty hard. That would
Speaker 1: be in top five, But my number one have three
Speaker 1: Jim and I don't. I don't know. I'm not an
Speaker 1: anti Jim Carey guy. I just wouldn't think I'm a
Speaker 1: huge Jim Carey guy. I guess I'm a huge serious
Speaker 1: Jim Carey guy because Jim Carey playing Andy Kaufman and
Speaker 1: Man on the Moon is my favorite movie ever for
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One, I love Andy Kaufman. Not
Speaker 1: the funniest of performers. Andy Kaufman never set out to
Speaker 1: be the funniest. But Andy Kaufman, the performer who died
Speaker 1: when I was zero or one, wanted to be someone
Speaker 1: who was noticed, wanted to be someone who was always
Speaker 1: pushing it, even if people didn't like it. And I
Speaker 1: love I didn't always love the bits that Andy Kaufman
Speaker 1: did something I thought were lame, but I think that
Speaker 1: that's pretty amazing that he would go out and try
Speaker 1: stuff that could bomb their face off and be like,
Speaker 1: well that didn't work, what else can I do to see?
Speaker 1: I admired that about him as a performer, um, and
Speaker 1: all the stuffs highlighted that were worked really great for him,
Speaker 1: the wrestling, um, the having an opening act in front
Speaker 1: of him that was actually him, and then later got um,
Speaker 1: you know, he got one of his buddies in it too,
Speaker 1: his manager. So I loved Andy Kaufman. Now to make
Speaker 1: that story because I was already such a big Andy
Speaker 1: Kaufman fan, but like history, it would be like somebody
Speaker 1: now loving like a musician now who's thirty years old,
Speaker 1: loving Johnny Cash and like watching Johnny Cash documentaries. That
Speaker 1: that's what it was like with Andy Kauf Because knew
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a performer. I knew I was
Speaker 1: never gonna be a straight stand up because that was
Speaker 1: not the skill that I decided to pursue early on.
Speaker 1: I'm not particularly talented at riding jokes with punch lines.
Speaker 1: I think you're a far better writer of jokes than
Speaker 1: I am. But I knew I could go out, get
Speaker 1: on a stage and perform doing whatever I needed to do.
Speaker 1: Some stand up sure, some music sure, some improv absolutely,
Speaker 1: and some even the jokes that I would do in
Speaker 1: my early attempts when I was touring a comedy. I
Speaker 1: just love to make the audience feel awkward. I just
Speaker 1: I love that feeling of like the air being sucked
Speaker 1: out of the room. And I had a couple of
Speaker 1: jokes that I would do. I don't do them any
Speaker 1: more because I wrote them in my last book, But
Speaker 1: it was, by the way, the set that the setup is.
Speaker 1: You know, on Facebook, you get that thing friends you
Speaker 1: may know, and it's like all these people that aren't
Speaker 1: your friends right now, but it goes friends you may know,
Speaker 1: all the pictures and I did just a little bit
Speaker 1: about Facebook, and I was like, you know, I just
Speaker 1: got one of those friends you may know notifications and
Speaker 1: it was my my biological father. Um, the weird thing
Speaker 1: is I don't. And then I would just sit and
Speaker 1: it was really uncomfortable. Sometimes thatis pep, really unconfortable. Some
Speaker 1: people would laugh and I'd be like, this is a
Speaker 1: messed up audience. Sometimes you hear laughing. Some people wouldn't
Speaker 1: get it. It It would just be weird. But I would
Speaker 1: just sit so long to let people figure it out.
Speaker 1: And then you'd hear some booze or or come on
Speaker 1: or groans, and I'm like, all right, sorry, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: And I would follow that up with the joke, Fine,
Speaker 1: we'll do something. We'll break it up here. I'll do
Speaker 1: an impression, not the best of impressions, but I'm now
Speaker 1: going to do an impression of my biological father. And
Speaker 1: I'd walk off the stage and leave and I would
Speaker 1: just sit on the side. You see me, do it something,
Speaker 1: go sit out there longer than others, and the crowd
Speaker 1: didn't know how to react. And I love and I
Speaker 1: would love it when it would be the most uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And but that's one one what Andy Kaufman did, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of what inspired me even in
Speaker 1: my earliest radio days, early to mid one we would
Speaker 1: do really uncomfortable stuff on the air, meaning we wanted
Speaker 1: to see reactions people live. Um. But so I'm a
Speaker 1: big Andy Kaufman fan for for someone to go into
Speaker 1: that movie and nail it like Jim Carrey did with
Speaker 1: a bit of his own spin. But I don't think
Speaker 1: he put that much on it because I think he
Speaker 1: also was a massive Andy Kaufman fan, so he wanted
Speaker 1: to keep it as true as possible. For the movie
Speaker 1: to be good and written, well, big big deal for
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey to nail it and for it just to
Speaker 1: come together. I thought, Who's I was nervous watching it, Um,
Speaker 1: this was, But it was so good. It meant everything
Speaker 1: that I wanted was somebody already loved It, was a
Speaker 1: great story about him, and it was an actor nailing it.
Speaker 1: It was the three things you want. So that's my
Speaker 1: favorite movie because of that. I don't know that if
Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman wasn't someone that I admired and Jim Carey
Speaker 1: didn't nail him, that I would feel that way about
Speaker 1: that movie. But I went into it going love it.
Speaker 1: I loved Howard Sterns private parts. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I never had known Howard Stern wasn't He wasn't a
Speaker 1: big influence on how I do radio that I would
Speaker 1: have felt the way about them. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: it gets people love it, but it's just people who
Speaker 1: love Stern. I love Howard Stern. But that's it. It's
Speaker 1: those three. It's number three Bill and Ted's That's a
Speaker 1: venture because of the funny and the learning. Number two
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey an eternal Sunshine at the Spotless Mind because
Speaker 1: it cut me and there's still a scar that I
Speaker 1: can see today. And then number one is Andy Coffin
Speaker 1: Man on the Moon, Jim carrying and that because he
Speaker 1: nailed the character. I love Andy Coffin. It was a
Speaker 1: well written story, and then it just had a perfect ending,
Speaker 1: a perfect ending for that movie and that story. And
Speaker 1: that's it what I want to get into now. I
Speaker 1: think the arguments that we've had some arguments, but I
Speaker 1: think this one is the biggest one we've ever had.
Speaker 1: And I want to get into it. About the Marvel universe.
Speaker 1: Cool with that? Yeah, Now, I'm not a Marvel expert
Speaker 1: by any means. I don't know that I haven't seen
Speaker 1: all the movies. I've seen all the Avengers and not
Speaker 1: I didn't rush to see them, So you'll win this
Speaker 1: argument because I don't have enough history. I don't know
Speaker 1: the fact I haven't seen I've pricing half of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: so go hit me with it. I'm going into this though, Okay,
Speaker 1: a little underweight. All right. Well, the thing is, I've
Speaker 1: had this idea of an episode that I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: of retelling. Instead of remaking a movie and rebooting a movie,
Speaker 1: you do a movie from a different perspective. So I
Speaker 1: was thinking of like if you took the Avengers and
Speaker 1: switched it as Danos is the good guy and it's
Speaker 1: the Avengers trying to stop his plan. But you have
Speaker 1: a theory that Daniels is actually a good guy in
Speaker 1: the Avengers movies. Well, and I said this as soon
Speaker 1: as I finished the movie. I was like, wow, I maan,
Speaker 1: if you just tell the story on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, Danos is not the bad guy. And people
Speaker 1: acted like I had kicked their puppy man because in
Speaker 1: the version we see Thanos is the bad guy. Because
Speaker 1: we have a relationship with all the quote unquote good characters,
Speaker 1: we know them, we know they're back stories. Again, you
Speaker 1: can correct me on facts because I've only seen it once,
Speaker 1: but I just think I remember Danos went and destroyed
Speaker 1: a bunch of planets, right, Yes, killed lots of people
Speaker 1: to collect stones, because once you have enough stones, you
Speaker 1: then have control of the universe everything. Yet, and the
Speaker 1: reason he wanted control of everything is because back on
Speaker 1: his planet, he saw it die because it was overpopulated.
Speaker 1: There weren't enough resources for everyone, and so not only
Speaker 1: did see everybody die, he saw everybody struggling for a
Speaker 1: long time until they died, and so he goes, I
Speaker 1: don't want that to happen to the world. So he
Speaker 1: had to make the decision of I would rather collect
Speaker 1: all the stones and eliminate half the people and those
Speaker 1: people have a real shot to thrive and keep the
Speaker 1: planets going, then to not and let everything die by itself. Anyway. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was right or wrong ideologically,
Speaker 1: he has a point. Depending who's telling the story and
Speaker 1: what their situation is, it could be right from either side.
Speaker 1: I don't think Dane's was just a pure villain. And
Speaker 1: I think if you saw him growing up, and I
Speaker 1: had to make those decisions because again, the core of
Speaker 1: his decision was he saw people dying and didn't want
Speaker 1: that to happen everybody else. That's it, there's no it
Speaker 1: gets no core more core than that he saw death
Speaker 1: and destruction and didn't want that for everybody. I see,
Speaker 1: I could see that, But I think there's a point
Speaker 1: where he kind of turns and he ends up doing
Speaker 1: it at a spite rather than him trying to save people.
Speaker 1: And I think it's more becomes that he wants to
Speaker 1: have all the power. And there's really nothing saying that
Speaker 1: by eliminating half the population that everything will be able
Speaker 1: to sustain itself. But there is saying that if you
Speaker 1: don't eliminate and there isn't overpopulation, that nothing will sustain itself.
Speaker 1: But what if he took that power and doubled resources.
Speaker 1: There's something else like that and didn't forgot created a
Speaker 1: new planet. So I don't remember the whole story here,
Speaker 1: And what all I'm saying is at the Cora fan
Speaker 1: of that's not a villain. He only did all of
Speaker 1: that because he saw death, sadness, poverty, That's why did everything. Now,
Speaker 1: he may have made some wrong decisions amongst the way
Speaker 1: it could have been. We all are polluted with different
Speaker 1: I've been guilty of it too, killing people. But you know,
Speaker 1: as you grow, you have good things that come to
Speaker 1: do and bad and you're trying to figure it out
Speaker 1: as you go. My only thing one And I may
Speaker 1: not be right on all those facts. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: the movie, but once is it Danos, if shown from
Speaker 1: a different director writer, he's a good guy. But that's
Speaker 1: just the killing part that messes with people. But if
Speaker 1: you don't think all these countries are killing people for
Speaker 1: their own causes anyway, every country, they're all killing people
Speaker 1: for their own causes. Because then then what he wanted
Speaker 1: to do an endgame was I don't you're now you're
Speaker 1: out of it. I don't even know. I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about the storylines. All I remember is going dan
Speaker 1: it was a getting a bad rap. He was only
Speaker 1: doing all of this so everyone didn't suffer. He made
Speaker 1: the tough decision in his heart. He'd rather see some
Speaker 1: people die so some people could thrive rather than everybody
Speaker 1: dies slowly. So right or wrong, I'm not on team Thanos,
Speaker 1: but I definitely didn't think he deserved to be the
Speaker 1: super villain that he was. When the movie was out,
Speaker 1: and all I said, and it's It's funny this is
Speaker 1: last because it gets brought to me all the time.
Speaker 1: All I said was, I don't think he's the villain
Speaker 1: if you tell that story from his side. But throughout history,
Speaker 1: you can tell the story from almost any one side
Speaker 1: that's the villain, and they're the good guy. No villain
Speaker 1: ever thinks they're the bad guy by the way. They're
Speaker 1: all finding for for a just cause in their mind.
Speaker 1: So and the good guys are the ones that win,
Speaker 1: by the way, throughout history, the stories that we know
Speaker 1: of the good guys, we won. That's why we that's
Speaker 1: why we're here. That's why I think that Thanos is
Speaker 1: it was probably a bad dude by the end of it,
Speaker 1: But I don't think he was. I don't think he
Speaker 1: was a villain for his cause. That's right. You've been
Speaker 1: You've been changed a little bit by bit, all right.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to get into is I
Speaker 1: did an episode a couple of weeks ago about one
Speaker 1: Hit Wonder actors, and you actually submitted yourself for band Slam?
Speaker 1: Was that on Instagram? On Instagram story? So people may
Speaker 1: not know, but back in two thousand nine you were
Speaker 1: in a movie called Band Slam, So I had five
Speaker 1: questions for you about that movie that was two thousand nine.
Speaker 1: I had that dopey hair at twenty nine years old.
Speaker 1: Holy crap. Wow, okay, go ahead, alright. So Band Slam
Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Did you audition for it? Yeah? I did. Man,
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about this since that. Wow, I did
Speaker 1: audition for that movie. What was that? Like? Someone called
Speaker 1: me and said, Hey, they're doing this movie. They're shooting
Speaker 1: it in Austin because they can use the University of
Speaker 1: Texas Theater and Music um and it was cheaper to
Speaker 1: shoot movies and Texas at the time. Now, Louisiana's a
Speaker 1: big hub for movies, but it was until recently. It's
Speaker 1: all about taxes, right, That's why a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: is in Canada. Yeah, you can shoot it for less.
Speaker 1: So they're like, they're shooting this, but they have a
Speaker 1: role of a guy named Gordy which was my name
Speaker 1: at first, who hosts a big competition. You have some lines.
Speaker 1: You're it's like at the time it was like nineteen lines.
Speaker 1: He got cut way down in line I think by
Speaker 1: the time it was over, but you have like nineteen lines.
Speaker 1: But they need someone who's like, you know, in his
Speaker 1: twenties and it's cool, and I was like, well, it's
Speaker 1: not that. So I went and there was a long
Speaker 1: line wrapped around the building of guys that were good looking,
Speaker 1: like lots of hair jail, lots of the actor type. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so I went to a pair of jeans and
Speaker 1: a white T shirt because I didn't know what I
Speaker 1: was doing. I remember thinking I was gonna be the
Speaker 1: only one the audition because I thought they just hadn't
Speaker 1: ready for me. I was like, oh, I gotta bude
Speaker 1: to do this movie. It was a bunch of people.
Speaker 1: So I went into this room. This is just a
Speaker 1: room like a bedroom at a house, and there were
Speaker 1: two people sitting behind the long table and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: Ridge the lines. I didn't memorize mine. I guess most
Speaker 1: people did because I'm a script in my hand. And
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, can you believe they're gonna
Speaker 1: play the show? You're this one man, They're never gonna
Speaker 1: and they were like all right, thank you very much,
Speaker 1: and I left. That was it. I never thought I
Speaker 1: was gonna get a call back because it didn't go
Speaker 1: well in the him. I thought because they showed me
Speaker 1: no emotion, nothing. It was like, wow, that was great.
Speaker 1: They didn't say it was great, it was good. It
Speaker 1: was like, all right, thanks a lot. Now walking I
Speaker 1: was like, dang, almost really sucked. And they called me
Speaker 1: back and they said, hey, you're one of the best ones.
Speaker 1: Come back again. I went back again. I was the
Speaker 1: only person there are the second time, I think they
Speaker 1: were they just had to spread out a little more
Speaker 1: and I gotta call and said, hey, you're in, and
Speaker 1: you're considered because you have this many many lines. You're
Speaker 1: a principal actor. And so I had my own trailer.
Speaker 1: I had. I was on the biggest level with the
Speaker 1: lowest amount of work and money, like I was if
Speaker 1: in the A lest part of that movie. It was
Speaker 1: Vanessa Hudgens, it was Leasta Coudrophebe from Friends. It was
Speaker 1: Scott who was in Friday Night Lights, and I forgot
Speaker 1: Scott's last name. Um. So there were these actors and
Speaker 1: of the A principles, I was the bottom of the barrel,
Speaker 1: but I was higher than all the extras and midst
Speaker 1: So I had my own umbrella carrier to make sure
Speaker 1: my makeup when sweat ahead they got on my clothes.
Speaker 1: I had a trailer. It was crazy. I got paid
Speaker 1: three or four thousand dollars a day for about seven days.
Speaker 1: I remember making about twenty dollars on that movie for
Speaker 1: a week's work. That's pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't what
Speaker 1: they made obvious, but that's what I got. You still
Speaker 1: get checks from it, yeah, but it's like since, yeah,
Speaker 1: three cents, twelve cents. Sometimes I'll get a dollar tin
Speaker 1: or something like that. So that that was that movie.
Speaker 1: How many days did you actually film? A week? I
Speaker 1: mean it was a week straight or the thing that
Speaker 1: stunk was again I was a principal, so they kept
Speaker 1: us all together. We ate together, and again I didn't
Speaker 1: know anybody because I wasn't a real actor. I didn't
Speaker 1: know any of them, so they didn't really let me
Speaker 1: in their cool group and they would all pretty much
Speaker 1: all the prints actually, like all right, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: play Superintendo and we're gonna have this party. I was
Speaker 1: never invited anything, um because they didn't know me. And
Speaker 1: I also had the radio show, So I did the
Speaker 1: radio show all morning and go straight over so some
Speaker 1: of the bonding stuff it was late at night I
Speaker 1: couldn't go to anyway. But I never really got invited
Speaker 1: to do anything. Did you end a meeting of the
Speaker 1: co stars? Yeah, at least Couch was really nice. We
Speaker 1: sat in a makeup chair beside each other for like
Speaker 1: an hour one day and she was super nice. It
Speaker 1: was really going. She played the mom on that that movie. Um,
Speaker 1: it's only the only time we spoke, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: met her. Best of Hudgens was okay. Um the Scott
Speaker 1: I wish I was last name, but he was. He
Speaker 1: was really nice. Are you surprised that it has rating
Speaker 1: on Ryan to make it wow? Um? I'm I was
Speaker 1: surprised that it when it came out that it didn't
Speaker 1: make more at the box office because I don't think
Speaker 1: it did well. I made five million opening weekend and
Speaker 1: twelve million throughout the run while it was up. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're talking about me. We didn't do that well financially,
Speaker 1: but it kept getting shown everywhere. Every time I would see, uh,
Speaker 1: like a weekend of rare weird movies on Disney, and
Speaker 1: it would be like showing movies, it would pop up.
Speaker 1: That's why I first I saw it on TV and
Speaker 1: I would get checks on it would air on TBS.
Speaker 1: It would for some reason. It still are now occasionally
Speaker 1: because people keep send me pictures of me with my
Speaker 1: big curly hair. Yeah. Sometimes movie channels will pick it
Speaker 1: back up and put it into rotation, which sometimes people say,
Speaker 1: like these movies bomb, but they end up making money
Speaker 1: back when they get put into syndication and stuff like that. Well,
Speaker 1: this was no big financial risk for the movie makers.
Speaker 1: I mean, for making a movie was expensive, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it wasn't like a hundred million dollar movie.
Speaker 1: It wasn't water World. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 1: I forgot it has been a long time, and then, um,
Speaker 1: would you ever do another movie? It's just the time
Speaker 1: you have to be on set and shoot things ten eleven,
Speaker 1: twelve times. I'm sure it'll be tough to do it
Speaker 1: right now, but I could if it was the right role.
Speaker 1: You get offered stuff, some small stuff, but I don't
Speaker 1: put myself in the mix for it either. You mostly
Speaker 1: have to audition. Even some of the big actors have
Speaker 1: to go on auditions for stuff, and so I don't
Speaker 1: get offered stuff. No, as far as movies that people
Speaker 1: would see, but I do get offered to go audition
Speaker 1: for stuff, and I just never want to go do it.
Speaker 1: The only things I could offered her like super Indica
Speaker 1: type stuff. Can they just want anyone to be in
Speaker 1: it will promote it, So that's like, hey, let's get
Speaker 1: buy a real because if he talks about it, people
Speaker 1: might see it. So the answer is no, not really.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well there we go. I'm big movie star,
Speaker 1: movie star, first first actor. Nice. All right, Well, thanks
Speaker 1: for hanging out may all right, we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: later