WEBVTT - Freedom and Suppression at the DNC

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<v Speaker 1>Who Zone media, welcome back to it could happen here

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast being recorded in Garrison's hotel room, which is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent of the shopping bags that they got from.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nazi clothing.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>You cannot say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look they don't. They used to be the Nazi

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<v Speaker 2>clothing store. Now they just make suits, right right, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you trying to cancel? It's a nice blazer.

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<v Speaker 2>That white blazer you had on last night looks good.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a good blazers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good look. He's a good lace. Anyway, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still in Chicago. We are all just exhausted.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like death.

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<v Speaker 2>I am missing the unhurried, relaxed pace of war zone journalism,

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<v Speaker 2>full nights of sleep, long rides and humvies.

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<v Speaker 3>Even the RNC felt a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll tell you what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>They were so unbelievably scheduled at the art see where

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<v Speaker 5>like you knew nobody was going to be speaking past

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<v Speaker 5>ten pm. It was done by ten pm. We were

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<v Speaker 5>safely back in our very very bad hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>And the actual physical setup of the event was more.

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<v Speaker 2>For one thing, it's smaller, there's more people here, So

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<v Speaker 2>that makes but it was also kind of I think

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<v Speaker 2>better laid out for walking and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, everything is very spread out here.

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<v Speaker 2>The entrances here to it especially take a lot longer

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<v Speaker 2>to get into. Now. I think that some of that's

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<v Speaker 2>not even on the DNC. It's just the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the DNC has the president and vice president at it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's going to have more security. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It is just fucking exhausting, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>probably the main reason why Garrison and I are so

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<v Speaker 2>tired is every day has been many thousands of steps

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<v Speaker 2>of walking around Chicago with different protests. So we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about all of that. But we wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>into the episode by kind of doing some horse ray stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like actually talking about what are we seeing and polling

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<v Speaker 2>what are we seeing in like viewers ship numbers. So

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie wanted to start with one of our favorite topics,

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<v Speaker 2>the popularity of the various vice presidential candidates.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and like you know, national polls find that like

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<v Speaker 5>still that both vice presidential nominees are pretty much fighting

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<v Speaker 5>to make themselves known to the US voters. But as

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<v Speaker 5>of this week at least, and this is before Walls's

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<v Speaker 5>speech last night, so they haven't come back with a

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<v Speaker 5>poll just yet. On that pres of this week, Walls

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<v Speaker 5>is viewed more favorably than Dvanced, with twenty seven percent

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<v Speaker 5>of US adults saying Vance is favorable, forty four percent

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<v Speaker 5>find him unfavorable, compared to thirty six percent who think

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<v Speaker 5>Walls is favorable and twenty five percent who find him unfavorable.

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<v Speaker 5>And interesting to note, more Democrats are supportive of Walls

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<v Speaker 5>sixty two percent than Republicans Advance fifty seven percent, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is wild, but also very consistent with what we saw

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<v Speaker 2>at the RNC, where Like at the Heritage Foundation event,

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<v Speaker 2>which Vance is supposed to be their man, no one

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<v Speaker 2>would say a nice thing at him. Like at the

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<v Speaker 2>Heritage Foundation event, I could not hear a good word

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<v Speaker 2>about JD. Vance the night of his speech, Whereas the

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<v Speaker 2>sheer number of dims that I've seen with Coach Walls

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<v Speaker 2>signs last night, including people like walking up to and

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with folks at the uncommitted demonstration in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the Convention Center was like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I haven't seen any JD.

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<v Speaker 5>Vans people genuinely liked Tim Walls versus I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>I heard a single person at the RNC give any

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<v Speaker 5>inclination that they deeply liked jd Vance. Particularly when he

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<v Speaker 5>was speaking, people were very much asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Very bored.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, it's reinforced that, so far, outside of

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's stepping down, picking Walls is the best decision I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen the DIMS make this year.

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<v Speaker 4>He got a great reaction from the crowd last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I wanted to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what we're seeing in Poe. At least according

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<v Speaker 2>to Nate Silver's analysis, there's a tiny tick down between

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday and Wednesday and Kamalis chances Visa v. Trump, just

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<v Speaker 2>based on some polls that had come out. All of

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of it's you can't really tell if there's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a convention bump until after the convention,

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<v Speaker 2>so one way or the other, I wouldn't read too

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<v Speaker 2>much into that. What is kind of worth reading into

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<v Speaker 2>is the comparative popularity of the DNC televised speeches with

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<v Speaker 2>the RNC, And so far from Monday through Wednesday, the

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<v Speaker 2>DNC is ahead, and on Tuesday in particular, they were

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<v Speaker 2>well ahead with Barack Obama and Michelle both speaking, that

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<v Speaker 2>got something like five million more viewers than the comparative

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<v Speaker 2>night at the RNC, which is a really significant and

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<v Speaker 2>all of these is obviously beating twenty twenty. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of unclear. The biggest night for the RNC was Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see if Kamala can crack the twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty nine million viewers that Trump got the height

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<v Speaker 2>of his event, but so far a sizeable, like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen to twenty percent edge for the DIMS in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of viewership. And obviously you have to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 2>that like half of the people listening to any convention

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<v Speaker 2>are not necessarily supporters of that canon. They're just people

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<v Speaker 2>who want to be informed. But it furthers the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>that there is a lot of energy behind the DIMS

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<v Speaker 2>right now, that kind of like vibe thing that people

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<v Speaker 2>have been talking.

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<v Speaker 5>About, speaking of vibes, speaking of vibes, Boy howdy.

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<v Speaker 2>We wanted to end this segment before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>the pro Palestine protests and the uncommitted set in that's

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<v Speaker 2>still going on at the convention center by talking just

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<v Speaker 2>one more time about jd Vance, who while all of

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<v Speaker 2>this is going on. Yesterday, as Tim Wallas was preparing

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<v Speaker 2>his speech at the DNC, jd Vance visited a donut shop,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're just going to play you audio of him

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<v Speaker 2>talking to employees at the donut shop trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>a photo opportunity or a good video clip. The zoom

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<v Speaker 2>has come to town.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for what.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, dude, Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She she doesn't want to be on film, guys, so

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<v Speaker 2>just cut her out of anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Man O JD Dance American Vice President. Let's see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we'll get I mean the beginning as you man. Okay, okay, good?

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<v Speaker 2>How about you, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>And almost two years?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Books to everything?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let me a lot of glazed here, some sprinkle stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>somebody seven year roles?

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<v Speaker 2>Just what I'm baking this? I let's click for a run.

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<v Speaker 2>About four years?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how have you been here?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Good? Quite literally nobody has ever been worse at interacting

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<v Speaker 5>with ming beings?

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<v Speaker 4>What is wrong with good? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Good? Good?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>That was by the way in Georgia, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, great, I'm jd Vance. I'm running for vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, if I wanted to win Georgia. That was Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Jd Vance is the last man I would send to

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<v Speaker 3>the State of Georgia.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, but I'm jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like that SNL Pete Davidson skit where he

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<v Speaker 4>just goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, uh huh and he just orders a random assortment of.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't that's how everyone should react to jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if he loses, that's going to be the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of his life. Is him showing up places going I'm

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<v Speaker 2>jd Vance and people going, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Please stay away from my children.

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<v Speaker 5>Away.

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<v Speaker 2>You're about to tell me that you can't be within

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred meters of a school. Yeah, seriously, how that

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<v Speaker 2>beard looks anyway? Ads, here's some ads. We're back and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the protests have continued. Garrison and I nearly got

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<v Speaker 2>arrested during a kettle that wound up being about sixty

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like people who were both sighted and arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of those people cited and released on the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple about two dozen or so actually arrested, including

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<v Speaker 2>four members of the press. Pretty nasty scene. Yesterday was

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<v Speaker 2>very different. There was a protest March that moved up

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<v Speaker 2>to the gates of the convention and then marched back.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a couple of moments where like police would

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<v Speaker 2>grab people that happened at the train station and detain them,

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<v Speaker 2>but ultimately did not significant numbers of arrests, at least

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<v Speaker 2>from what I saw, and from talking to people, it

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<v Speaker 2>did sound like they were mostly kind of detaining and releasing.

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<v Speaker 2>We had not intended to do more protests last night,

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<v Speaker 2>just because the first two nights were supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>the largest, and I had not even been to the

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<v Speaker 2>DNC until last afternoon actually passed the gate, so we

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<v Speaker 2>all went in together. We watched a couple of speeches.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god I got to catch the Bill Clinton speech.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to miss that Barn Berner.

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<v Speaker 4>Affiliate Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, he sounded almost closer to death than Joe Biden. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which was just shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Bison sounds a lot better now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He also spoke very early on in the night, and

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<v Speaker 4>his speech was so long.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't great, and it was bad.

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<v Speaker 4>It was bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why speech.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't speak for that long if your speech is bad.

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<v Speaker 4>But also just like, don't invite him in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because, probably because of the sheet amount of clout

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<v Speaker 2>that the Clintons have within the Democratic Party still to

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<v Speaker 2>this day. Because if you don't have Bill there, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they also they wanted Hillary, and Hillary did get a

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<v Speaker 2>big reaction. And I'm sure Hillary dislikes Bill Clinton as

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<v Speaker 2>much as anyone. Sure, but for a variety of complicated

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<v Speaker 2>and stupid reasons, you can't both have Hillary Clinton and

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<v Speaker 2>exclude Bill and repeatedly attack Trump for his Epstein connections.

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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't work very well, which is why they

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have had any Clinton's there and hit on Trump

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<v Speaker 2>for being a pedophile. But yes, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>He spoke for so long I can't set me over

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<v Speaker 5>the edge.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fine. It was not like he was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of boring.

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<v Speaker 3>Thankfully, more important things happened, if not inside the DNC,

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<v Speaker 3>just just outside, yes, the actual United Center like stadium,

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<v Speaker 3>still inside the security perimeter.

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<v Speaker 2>So while we were watching Mindy Kaling talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>she should be the ambassador to Italy, which I know

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<v Speaker 2>was a bit but I was just not in the mood. No,

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<v Speaker 2>we start I start getting like updates from there's a

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<v Speaker 2>journalist on the ground, Prem Thacker, who was outside with

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<v Speaker 2>some representatives of the uncommitted movement. So the uncommitted movement

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<v Speaker 2>started as Democrats who were voting uncommitted in the primaries

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<v Speaker 2>in order to make a point about you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that there is significant solidarity among the Democratic voters

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<v Speaker 2>with Gaza and that if Democrats do not do something

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<v Speaker 2>more than a thought and prayers, they won't get those votes.

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<v Speaker 2>And particularly Chicago massive Palestinian population, it could be something

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, matters in some of the swing states.

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<v Speaker 2>So the uncommitted movement has kind of coalesced over the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of months into a group of delegates who

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<v Speaker 2>are again we're not talking about like the folks marching outside.

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<v Speaker 2>These are not people who are generally like committed radicals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're certainly not communists. I heard a number of folks

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<v Speaker 2>who engaged with people from the DNC who were and again,

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<v Speaker 2>these are members of the uncommitted movement wearing like Palestinian scarves,

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<v Speaker 2>who specifically like would say I think Israel has a

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<v Speaker 2>right to defend itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Describe these folks as moderate Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mix of moderate moderate and like radical Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>but give rats right, progressive Democrat. And the point I'm

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<v Speaker 2>making about like I heard a couple of them say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Israel has a right to defend itself. Is

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<v Speaker 2>not that I think that's a particularly valid thing to mention,

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<v Speaker 2>but that it shows you the level of rhetoric which

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<v Speaker 2>they were taking pain to be speaking within the bounds

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<v Speaker 2>of extremely acceptable Democratic Party rhetoric. Right, we are loyal Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>We were very excited. I listened to a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>representatives of the movement give speeches. One of them was

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<v Speaker 2>Delegate June Rose, which in my initial threat I think

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<v Speaker 2>I went with him, but I believe their pronouns are

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<v Speaker 2>they them? And Rose basically mentioned this is a quote

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<v Speaker 2>from them. When President Biden was the nominee, I felt hopeless.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is both because Biden was providing Israel with

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<v Speaker 2>bombs and because he could not win. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>quote from them. When Harris was chosen, I heard empathy

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<v Speaker 2>in her voice for Palestinian suffering. But then June says,

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<v Speaker 2>they remembered what Democrats give Republicans shit for saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and prayers after mass shootings. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was a valid point to make. Right a month ago,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Dimm's had really changed their messaging on Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounded like it could be the start of something promising,

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<v Speaker 2>but it hasn't led to any kind of like strong

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<v Speaker 2>commitment for actually thing actionable.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Just saying I support a ceasefire isn't enough when people

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<v Speaker 2>are getting killed. It's not like an actual commitment to,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, stop sending his reel arms now. To be

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<v Speaker 2>totally fair, I don't want to be flattening this too much.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been some significant concessions from the DNC to

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian solidarity movement. Right, not just a number of mentions

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<v Speaker 2>and embraces of ceasefires from multiple speakers that got massive

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<v Speaker 2>lines of applause, But Sophie, you went to the panel

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<v Speaker 2>that the DNC put on with doctors who had just

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<v Speaker 2>been working in Gaza, and that particularly.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a verse of its kind panel, and that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say, more than people advocating a ceasefire and their speeches,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not nothing right like that, that's an actual no.

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<v Speaker 5>And Robert June also posted that over two hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>eighty Harris delegates have signed their letter demanding a permanent

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<v Speaker 5>ceasefire in arms embargo and says not another bomb, which

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<v Speaker 5>is which was one of the signs that they had

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<v Speaker 5>last night. So that two hundred over two hundred eighty

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<v Speaker 5>Harris delegates, that is not insignificant.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's and those people you know come here representing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a large, significantly larger number of voters. So

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<v Speaker 2>what had happened outside of the United Center is uncommitted.

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<v Speaker 2>Led by the co founder of the organization, A Boss

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<v Speaker 2>all Away, we're essentially engaging in a sit in. Although

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<v Speaker 2>a Boss was was very open about like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want this to be a sit in. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go home. I'm very tired, my feet hurt. I am

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<v Speaker 2>just waiting for a call. We presented the DNC some

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<v Speaker 2>time ago. The conversations really started about a month ago.

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<v Speaker 2>They were initially trying to get a doctor a five

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<v Speaker 2>minute speaking slot at the DNC to talk about medical

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<v Speaker 2>care for children in Gaza. That has evolved over time

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<v Speaker 2>into they have a list of Palestinian American Democrats who

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<v Speaker 2>they were willing to let the DNC pick from and

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<v Speaker 2>let them vet a.

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<v Speaker 3>Speech, including some who have endorsed Terras already.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I was listening to, all of this was

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<v Speaker 2>very much in the context of and endorsing Harris right.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of people be like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>what if they come up and you know, attack the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party and call you know them genocide supporters or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't get that feeling from this group of people. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand if you're like, well, that's what they should do,

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<v Speaker 2>but these folks are not coming at this and certainly

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<v Speaker 2>not framing themselves as we are radical leftists. They're framing

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as we are normal Democrats who want to see

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party acknowledge the humanity of Palestinians and also

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<v Speaker 2>start taking real steps to reduce and mitigate the violence

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<v Speaker 2>that is really able to do over there. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what these people were standing for.

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<v Speaker 3>And at least in terms of the actuality and ce

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<v Speaker 3>like convention at the United Center. The fact that they

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<v Speaker 3>do not want to do this and would rather just

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<v Speaker 3>continue like this big like party you want.

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<v Speaker 2>To be partying with you is really part of the

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<v Speaker 2>vibe that they were getting on.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, And but the dn Z doesn't even want that

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<v Speaker 3>to like put at risk this whole vibe shift party

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<v Speaker 3>that they have going on, and that is is like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a massive issue. And similarly, we had we

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<v Speaker 3>had videos coming out last night of DNC attendees leaving

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<v Speaker 3>the area plugging their ears as people read out like

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<v Speaker 3>names of dead Palestinian children. It just creates this overwhelming

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<v Speaker 3>like atmosphere that these people don't want to be inconvenienced

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<v Speaker 3>by the genocide, and the genocide for them, it just

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<v Speaker 3>is a political inconvenience that's prohibiting them from stopping Trump

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<v Speaker 3>and prohibiting them from just making this big like Kamala party, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It is it is very much an own goal because

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I will say, if I'm trying again, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be fair, is when I saw people

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the event, I saw people who got angry. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw people who tried to ignore it. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>saw a decent number of people come up and engage

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<v Speaker 2>politely and with interest in the people who were doing

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<v Speaker 2>a sit in. Yes, and in fact, before the event

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<v Speaker 2>let out, there were maybe one hundred people including press,

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<v Speaker 2>around the un committed cit in, and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>couple hundred when.

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<v Speaker 3>I left, a lot of definitely people who had come out.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it is not it is not fair to say,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you have people reading out the names of

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<v Speaker 2>folks killed in a genocide, leaving an event and you

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<v Speaker 2>get any photos of Democrats leaving plugging their ears, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the image that's going to stick with people, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was obvious going into this. It's a sign number one,

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<v Speaker 2>I think of how scared people are of APAC, but

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<v Speaker 2>also of kind of the lack of trust that the

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<v Speaker 2>DNC leadership has in anyone Palestinian being able to balance

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<v Speaker 2>being a Democrat with wanting to end a genocide. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, again, I think that probably a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>folks who were outside of the event at the more

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<v Speaker 2>radical protests would be frustrated by some of the language

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<v Speaker 2>that I heard uncommitted representatives use. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>sit in is having more of an impact than any

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<v Speaker 2>of the demonstrations outside right because it's right in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the DNC. It's impossible to ignore and you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot write these people off at as protesters who are

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<v Speaker 2>out there breaking the law. You know, there's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>with a hes bulla flag. Why are they walking around

0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.080
<v Speaker 2>the HEAs bull of flag. These are people who's messaging

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<v Speaker 2>is as moderated as it could possibly be. They just

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<v Speaker 2>want the reality of a genocide to be acknowledged, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not a big ask in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and did you go to any other protests that night, Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I shure did. Garrison and I had several drinks

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<v Speaker 2>at the hotel, which we've been doing because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you get a chance to sit with your friend

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<v Speaker 2>both wearing your nice suit and act world weary at

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<v Speaker 2>a political convention, it's really nice. I wish we could

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<v Speaker 2>still smoke indoors, Garrison, we'd be four packs of pall

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<v Speaker 2>mall into this by now.

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<v Speaker 3>Once we get back to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Once we get back to Vegas, CS right around the corner, Buddy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>So like at one am, and at one am in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, we go to bed just fucking exhausted, and

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<v Speaker 2>there had been sort of word that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be some kind of radical demonstration, and it was unclear

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what was going to happen. And then right as

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<v Speaker 2>I got up to my hotel room, I saw from

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reporters I cover on the ground here,

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Talia Jane at Talia OTG that a noise demonstration had

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<v Speaker 2>opened up outside of the They'd figured out what hotel

0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris is at and had started doing a noise

0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.600
<v Speaker 2>demonstration just making as much noise outside of the hotel

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<v Speaker 2>as possible. It was like a block away from us.

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<v Speaker 2>So down the street I went maybe one hundred people

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<v Speaker 2>or so, including one individual with a flute playing as

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<v Speaker 2>badly as they possibly could while standing as close to

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<v Speaker 2>the police riot line as they possibly care. A hero,

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<v Speaker 2>A hero. And yeah, it was interesting because when I

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<v Speaker 2>got there, I expected because the police were telling people

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<v Speaker 2>to move. They were in front of the President's hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one in the morning, and they were being

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<v Speaker 2>very loud in front of people who have money, So

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of expected, Okay, wagons are going to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and people are going to get the absolute shit

0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.439
<v Speaker 2>beat out of them. But nothing happened. The cops didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even keep a tight cordon. There was clearly no as

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 2>we saw last night, there was no walling in the protest.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no sign that they considered this something that

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be met with a significant degree of force.

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I kind of think some of it, maybe that they

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<v Speaker 2>were tired too, because they looked exhausted, So I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>how much of it is that. I think it also

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<v Speaker 2>they got surprised, as opposed to yesterday, where they came

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<v Speaker 2>in knowing Okay, this is supposed to be a radical

0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.680
<v Speaker 2>militant demo, so we're going to have an overwhelming force response.

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I think they just had some teams show up and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of catches catch can handle the event. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they played around outside of Harris's place for thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes and then marched on and dispersed, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was fine. No arrests that I saw whatsoever, pretty calm night.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe the actual hotel she was staying it

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<v Speaker 3>was actually like a one or two blocks over they

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<v Speaker 3>it was fortified. It's a fortress, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to get that close.

0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 3>It's the Secret Service like headquarters essentially. Right, the vice

0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 3>president is sleeping in the building. There's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>protesters directly outside on the sidewalk. They're gonna have some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of radius. People got as close as they could

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<v Speaker 3>to what they believed the hotel was, but you know,

0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 3>it's not like they're going to be thrown eggs on

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<v Speaker 3>the window of the vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And I didn't even see any implication that people

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do that. I have not, at any of

0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:23.640
<v Speaker 2>these demonstrations seen any sort of cohesive committed property destruction

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<v Speaker 2>or even like a hint that people are thinking of property.

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<v Speaker 2>These are and in part because I think most of

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<v Speaker 2>the people have seen have been younger. They seem to

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.679
<v Speaker 2>be newer to this kind of protest. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a younger movement is the core of things here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think if they ever do, I certainly they

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<v Speaker 2>have not yet psyched themselves up to that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>direct action.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, we will go on an ad break

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<v Speaker 3>and come back to hear about a few of the

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 3>other speeches that took place last night at the DNC,

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<v Speaker 3>including Governor Tim Walls to the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we could, so we're back. I did want to

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<v Speaker 2>note before we get into this that Texas delegate who

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<v Speaker 2>was in the South side of Chicago got robbed last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, which is not surprising because the South side

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<v Speaker 2>of Chicago is the baddest part of town. And as

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<v Speaker 2>I was warned before coming here, if you get down there,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd better be aware of a man named Leroy Brown.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, Garrison stands about six foot four, so this.

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<v Speaker 3>Week has lasted a month.

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<v Speaker 2>I've aged all the downtown ladies call him treetop Lover.

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<v Speaker 2>But before the men just call him sir if you

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<v Speaker 2>were curious about his pronouns. I'm just trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that.

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<v Speaker 3>We refer to the theme for Wednesday Night inside the

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<v Speaker 3>DNC was a fight for our democracy and with like

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<v Speaker 3>a big emphasis on like trying to maintain the freedoms

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<v Speaker 3>that we now have. There's a lot of we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going back chance that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of speech is focused on redefining freedom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and curious this is this is kind of part

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<v Speaker 3>of like this like liberal reclaim, like Patriot has been

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 3>freedom that I've kind of been talking about these past

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably the smartest thing they could be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So this was kind of the main push not

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<v Speaker 3>only how Democrats will continue to secure these freedoms, but

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 3>if Trump is elected, these freedoms will be gone and people.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge gave an okave speech, you know, talking about

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<v Speaker 3>how his current life being married with kids was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, impossible twenty five years ago, and if Project

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five gets enacted, it will be no longer

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<v Speaker 3>possible anymore. So like a lot of stuff kind of

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 3>like that. Oprah Winfrey showed up and gave a very

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 3>long speech.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have a moment of very jarring disconnect where

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<v Speaker 2>as I listened to the boss who was openly weeping

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 2>talking about his grandmother having to flee her home in

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Lebanon as it was bombed. And then I look up

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 2>as this man is crying on the ground talking about

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 2>his grandmother fleeing bombs and there's Oprah Winfrey's giant head

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>speaking on the JumboTron above me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, similar to the R and Z.

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<v Speaker 5>What the crowd startage to USA, USA, USA during Oprah's speech.

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 5>I I got one of what those alerts said my

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 5>smart watch that my heart was wast was a little.

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Too high, which again very funny. That's all that it

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 4>takes to trigger my poor little heart.

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I got supplement, Sophie, let's take though.

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 3>And then even though there's just all this like you know, freedom,

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 3>democracy stuff, it was also some of the most conservative

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.679
<v Speaker 3>speakers of the night were also here. There was there,

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 3>There was a few police officers. There was a shriff

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.479
<v Speaker 3>talking about the border and how how Trump killed the

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.360
<v Speaker 3>most secure border bill. Even though they're denying any any

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Palestinian to speak on the main stage, they are inviting,

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 3>like former Trump co workers, a shriff, police officer. So

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 3>all of these guys are speaking, which people are are

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:54.160
<v Speaker 3>similarly pointing to, is is, you know, showcasing what exactly

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 3>the DNC I think actually cares about right now? But

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that's I just want to go straight over

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 3>to mister Coach Walls. Right before he came out, volunteers

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.159
<v Speaker 3>at the convention center were handing out these big Coach

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Walls signs. There must have must have been thousands of

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 3>them just handing them out to like everyone on the floor,

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 3>almost everyone in the stands, just the whole the whole

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 3>stadium was full of people holding these big Coach Walls signs.

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 3>He comes out into stage and people seem to really

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 3>like him. He gave a short but sweet speech. I

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 3>guess he was one of the most efficient speakers of

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 3>the night. He talked a lot about schools and how

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 3>how schools are kind of one of the big battlegrounds

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 3>for freedom right now because he used to be a

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 3>teacher for you know, geography as well as as well

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 3>as football. He had this line that instead of instead

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 3>of banning books, we've been banishing hunger in his schools.

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 3>How he signed that free lunch bill. Meanwhile, all these

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Republicans are just trying to ban science books, ban social studies,

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 3>and he's giving kids free food. So a lot of

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 3>stuff about protecting schools, a lot of stuff about empowering

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 3>teachers that got great reactions from the crowd. So I'm

0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 3>sure there's plenty of teachers here at the DNC.

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:00.679
<v Speaker 4>Sure.

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of crowd reactions, Joe Biden was very briefly mentioned

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 5>in the thank You Joe chance that normally go on

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 5>for a very long time.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 3>They've been getting shorter, getting shorter, shorter, getting shorter and shorter.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 3>It was quite.

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 5>Literally thank you Joe once and then thank you, and

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 5>then he kept talking and the chance ended.

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the part along to weaning themselves off of

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 2>hair Joe in so Walls could.

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Walls's approach in his speech was similarly on this like

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 3>freedom and democracy theme. One of the reoccurring talking points

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 3>he used was back in either Minnesota or Nebraska, because

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>he's lived in both places. Their golden rule is to

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 3>mind your own damn business, and that's kind of his

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 3>his stated approach to a lot of these things. It's

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 3>like Republicans are trying to get up into your business.

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 3>The Republicans talk about freedom but what they really mean

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 3>is freedom for the government to get involved in your

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 3>own business. Yes, saying that the Democrats are going to

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 3>not do such a thing where we're going to keep

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 3>the government out of your doctor's office. We're going to

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 3>provide reproductive freedom. That that's kind of the messaging that

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 3>he kept using because consistently throughout the night about being

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 3>a good neighbor, calling you know, stuff like Project twenty

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty five, an agenda that no one has really asked for,

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 3>but Republican like oligarchs are trying to force upon the

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 3>nation just to get more involved in everyone's lives. And

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 3>this is something that me and Robert we're talking about

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of back in the hotels. Everyone really likes like

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 3>libertarian messaging. Yeah, Like this style of messaging always plays

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 3>very well. People just don't like actual libertarians and they

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 3>don't like, you know, lots of like libertarian like you know,

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 3>urban policy, right, but this style of messaging typically plays

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 3>really well. It is something that Republicans have been using increasingly,

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 3>like since like the Tea Party and stuff, and because

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 3>the Republican Party has has gotten much more authoritarian over

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 3>the years. I think it's interesting to see the Democrats

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 3>are starting to realize that they can actually weaponize this

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 3>style of framing themselves to a very good reaction. You know,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 3>this is where we get these big we're not going

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 3>back chance.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 5>He in one of his many sports metaphors, he said,

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 5>when somebody draws up a playbook, they're going to use it,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 5>referred to Project twenty twenty five, and the crowd loved that.

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>A lot of sports references that I saw many sports

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 3>reference I did not really get.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>But that's okay, cause you guys don't like the only

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>real sport.

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 5>In this line, I was translating all the sports references

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 5>to Robert, you don't know sports.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I know football, great, sob Anyways.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 3>He also talked about things that Kamala has helped fight for,

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 3>including fighting big pharma, security rights for workers, healthcare, and housing.

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 3>There's are just a few of the actual kind of

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 3>still not not super big policy things, but hinting towards

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>policy things that Democrats had gotten closer to over these

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 3>last few days as they did release their actual like

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 3>DNC party platform. And finally, the kind of last thing

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to mention is that with like buddhaj Edge

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 3>and a few a few other like LGBTQ speakers. You know,

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Walls talked about how he sponsored the Gaystraight Alliance in

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the nineties and that under his and Kamala's watch, the

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 3>government's gonna stay out of your bedroom. Similarly, you know,

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 3>going back to this like freedom messaging, but there has

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 3>been these few mentions of like, you know, keeping the

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 3>government out of the bedroom.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 4>And like doctor's appointments as well.

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Doctors appointments and and and not regressing on LGBTQ rights.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>There's been very little actually talked about positively about helping

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 3>secure the LGBTQ rights that are currently like actually a jeopardy,

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 3>like specifically like trans healthcare. Like there's not been a

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 3>trans speaker at the DNC. I've heard almost no mention

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 3>of trans issues on any of the speeches or any

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.239
<v Speaker 3>of the or any of the panels. And that this is,

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess just slightly. I don't know. I guess I

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>was expecting something, honestly on this because this is such

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 3>a big topic for Republicans, because there was consistently every

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>night mentions of trans people at at the RNC, I

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 3>was expecting at least some degree for the DNC to

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 3>like push back on that. And be like, no, we

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 3>actually are gonna make sure we have health care for

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>trans people and make sure that trans people are not

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>and fairly discriminated against. And they have just sidesteped this

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 3>whole issue, and that has been that's that's not great.

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 3>That is that is another thing as well as Palestine

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>to push them on, because this is like literally one

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 3>of the core parts of the Republican Party right now

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 3>is attacking the ability for trans people to not only

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 3>get healthier, but it's just to exist in public life.

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 2>And it's specifically something Walls has a really good record on.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, some of these people do have a good recordation.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Ban and stuff, so it's not something that they have

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 2>shied away from in their own electoral history.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 3>But at least at the DNC, they're not putting it

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 3>on like the national stage, and maybe they think it

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 3>won't play well. Maybe they think it's a little bit

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 3>too weird for some of the people that they're trying

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 3>to kind of court their votes for. I'm not sure.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the calculation is a little different. The

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>only direct references I've heard of trans people have been

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 2>as part of LGBTQ. I wonder if there's a degree

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>of strategy where they're thinking, like the smart way to

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>play this is to reconnect trans people with LGBTQ as

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>opposed to deal with it as if there's some sort

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>of like separate thing going on. I wonder if that's

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>a calculation that they're making. I don't know, but you're right,

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>it is kind of It is very conspicuous in its absence.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we just had this massive flare about the

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Olympics with this like increasing like trans panic stuff, and yeah,

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 3>it's just something I've observed the past few days that

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 3>we'll see if we'll see if there's anything Tonight, I'm

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 3>going to try to talk to the people who've been

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 3>at the LGBTQ caucuses these past few days.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to end by just as we're recording this,

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>it's come out Mother Jones is published at the text

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 2>of the speech that the Uncommitted Movement wanted to give

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>it the DNC. This was from rep Rua Roman was

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be the one giving this and this was

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>like specifically turned down by the Democratic Party And I

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 2>want to read a couple of paragraphs from it just

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>to give you an idea. Again, make it very clear

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the actual kind of rhetoric, and how modest it is

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>that these people are using in this pain. I've also

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>witnessed something profound, a beautiful, multi faith, multiracial, and multi

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 2>generational coalition rising from despair within our Democratic Party. For

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 2>three undred and twenty days, we've stood together, demanding to

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>enforce our laws on friend and foe alike, to reach

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a ceasefire in the killing of Palestinians, free all the

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Israelian Palestinian hostages, and to begin the difficult work of

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>building a path to collective peace and safety. That's why

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>we are here, members of this Democratic Party, committed to

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>equal rights and dignity for all. What we do here

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>echoes around the world. They'll say, this is how it's

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>always been. That nothing can change. But remember Fanny lou

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Hamer shunned for her courage, yet she paved the way

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>for an integrated Democratic Party. Her legacy lives on and

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>it's her example we follow. But we can't do it alone.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>This historic moment is full of promise, but only if

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>we stand together. Our party's greatest strength has always been

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>our ability to unite. Some say that as a weakness,

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's time we flex that strength. Let's commit to

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>each other, to electing Vice President Harris and defeating Donald Trump,

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>who uses my identity as a Palestinian as a slur.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's fight for the politics long overdue, from restoring access

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 2>to abortions, to ensuring a living wage to demanding an

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 2>end to reckless war and a ceasefire in Gaza. To

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 2>those who doubt us, to the Senate and naysayers, I say,

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>yes we can. Yes, we can be a democratic party

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>that prioritizes funding our schools and hospitals, not for endless wars,

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 2>that fights for in America, that belongs to all of us, black, brown,

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>and white, Jews and Palestinians, all of us, like my

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>grandfather taught me together Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's the least

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>objectionable thing I can imagine. Yeah. So, anyway, that's what

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the DNC didn't want people to hear.

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Very despicable.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's pretty frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, this is how we're going to be closing

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 3>this week of coverage. We will start next week's episodes

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<v Speaker 3>by talking about the final day of the DNC, including

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris's speech. And I also have some kind of

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 3>disjointed thoughts I'll try to put together more about some

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 3>of like the discourse revolving around some of these protests,

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 3>how they've been handled a few like tactics things. But yeah,

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 3>this has been this week at It could happen here, yep.

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Recording from Chicago, Illinois. Nice exhausted, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, listen to the speeches. I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to find Jake Tapper at the Politico Bar and Grill

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, read him the lyrics of ad

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Badle Roy Brown. Let us know all that baddest man

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>in the whole damn town.

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<v Speaker 5>Normally I would I would be against abandoning you at

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 5>a big public event.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 2>But see you, it's fine. If it turns into a fistfight.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel confident we all do it. I feel very

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<v Speaker 2>confident I can win.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're getting close to Jacapper, it's going to turn

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<v Speaker 3>into a fistfight. We all know this, all right, Bye,

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<v Speaker 3>bye horrible.

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