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Speaker 1: Who Zone media, welcome back to it could happen here

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Speaker 1: a podcast being recorded in Garrison's hotel room, which is

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Speaker 1: thirty percent of the shopping bags that they got from.

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Speaker 2: The Nazi clothing.

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Speaker 3: You can't say that.

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Speaker 4: You cannot say that.

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Speaker 2: Well, look they don't. They used to be the Nazi

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Speaker 2: clothing store. Now they just make suits, right right, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Why are you trying to cancel? It's a nice blazer.

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Speaker 2: That white blazer you had on last night looks good.

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Speaker 3: It is a good blazers.

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Speaker 2: It's a good look. He's a good lace. Anyway, we're back.

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Speaker 2: We're still in Chicago. We are all just exhausted.

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Speaker 4: I feel like death.

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Speaker 2: I am missing the unhurried, relaxed pace of war zone journalism,

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Speaker 2: full nights of sleep, long rides and humvies.

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Speaker 3: Even the RNC felt a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what it is.

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Speaker 5: They were so unbelievably scheduled at the art see where

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Speaker 5: like you knew nobody was going to be speaking past

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Speaker 5: ten pm. It was done by ten pm. We were

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Speaker 5: safely back in our very very bad hotel.

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Speaker 2: And the actual physical setup of the event was more.

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Speaker 2: For one thing, it's smaller, there's more people here, So

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Speaker 2: that makes but it was also kind of I think

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Speaker 4: I agree, everything is very spread out here.

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Speaker 2: The entrances here to it especially take a lot longer

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Speaker 2: to get into. Now. I think that some of that's

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Speaker 2: the DNC has the president and vice president at it,

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Speaker 2: and so it's going to have more security. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is. It is just fucking exhausting, and I guess

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Speaker 2: probably the main reason why Garrison and I are so

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Speaker 2: tired is every day has been many thousands of steps

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Speaker 2: of walking around Chicago with different protests. So we'll be

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Speaker 2: talking about all of that. But we wanted to get

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Speaker 2: into the episode by kind of doing some horse ray stuff,

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Speaker 2: like actually talking about what are we seeing and polling

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Speaker 2: what are we seeing in like viewers ship numbers. So

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Speaker 2: Sophie wanted to start with one of our favorite topics,

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Speaker 2: the popularity of the various vice presidential candidates.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and like you know, national polls find that like

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Speaker 5: still that both vice presidential nominees are pretty much fighting

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Speaker 5: to make themselves known to the US voters. But as

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Speaker 5: of this week at least, and this is before Walls's

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Speaker 5: speech last night, so they haven't come back with a

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Speaker 5: poll just yet. On that pres of this week, Walls

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Speaker 5: is viewed more favorably than Dvanced, with twenty seven percent

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Speaker 5: of US adults saying Vance is favorable, forty four percent

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Speaker 5: find him unfavorable, compared to thirty six percent who think

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Speaker 5: And interesting to note, more Democrats are supportive of Walls

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Speaker 5: sixty two percent than Republicans Advance fifty seven percent, which.

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Speaker 2: Is wild, but also very consistent with what we saw

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Speaker 2: at the RNC, where Like at the Heritage Foundation event,

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Speaker 2: which Vance is supposed to be their man, no one

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Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation event, I could not hear a good word

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Speaker 2: about JD. Vance the night of his speech, Whereas the

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Speaker 2: sheer number of dims that I've seen with Coach Walls

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Speaker 2: signs last night, including people like walking up to and

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Speaker 2: the Convention Center was like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds,

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Speaker 2: Like I haven't seen any JD.

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Speaker 5: Vans people genuinely liked Tim Walls versus I don't think

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Speaker 5: I heard a single person at the RNC give any

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Speaker 3: Very bored.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's reinforced that, so far, outside of

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Speaker 2: Biden's stepping down, picking Walls is the best decision I've

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Speaker 2: seen the DIMS make this year.

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Speaker 4: He got a great reaction from the crowd last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I wanted to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: to Nate Silver's analysis, there's a tiny tick down between

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Speaker 2: based on some polls that had come out. All of

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Speaker 2: is the comparative popularity of the DNC televised speeches with

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Speaker 2: well ahead with Barack Obama and Michelle both speaking, that

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if Kamala can crack the twenty eight

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Speaker 2: who want to be informed. But it furthers the narrative

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Speaker 2: that there is a lot of energy behind the DIMS

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Speaker 2: right now, that kind of like vibe thing that people

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Speaker 5: About, speaking of vibes, speaking of vibes, Boy howdy.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to end this segment before we get into

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Speaker 2: the pro Palestine protests and the uncommitted set in that's

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Speaker 2: still going on at the convention center by talking just

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Speaker 2: one more time about jd Vance, who while all of

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Speaker 2: this is going on. Yesterday, as Tim Wallas was preparing

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Speaker 2: his speech at the DNC, jd Vance visited a donut shop,

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Speaker 2: and we're just going to play you audio of him

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Speaker 2: talking to employees at the donut shop trying to get

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Speaker 5: Thank you for what.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, dude, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: She she doesn't want to be on film, guys, so

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Speaker 5: Appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Man O JD Dance American Vice President. Let's see it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we'll get I mean the beginning as you man. Okay, okay, good?

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Speaker 2: How about you, sir?

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Speaker 3: And almost two years?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 2: Books to everything?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me a lot of glazed here, some sprinkle stuff,

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Speaker 4: somebody seven year roles?

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Speaker 2: Just what I'm baking this? I let's click for a run.

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Speaker 2: About four years?

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Speaker 3: Okay, how have you been here?

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Speaker 5: Good? Quite literally nobody has ever been worse at interacting

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Speaker 4: What is wrong with good? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Good? Good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That was by the way in Georgia, Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Right, great, I'm jd Vance. I'm running for vice president.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if I wanted to win Georgia. That was Trump.

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Speaker 3: Jd Vance is the last man I would send to

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Speaker 4: I'm jd Vance.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, but I'm jd Vance.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right.

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Speaker 4: It was like that SNL Pete Davidson skit where he

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh huh and he just orders a random assortment of.

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Speaker 4: Don't that's how everyone should react to jd Vance.

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Speaker 2: Like if he loses, that's going to be the rest

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Speaker 2: of his life. Is him showing up places going I'm

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Speaker 2: jd Vance and people going, all right.

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Speaker 3: Please stay away from my children.

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Speaker 5: Away.

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Speaker 2: You're about to tell me that you can't be within

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Speaker 2: one hundred meters of a school. Yeah, seriously, how that

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Speaker 2: beard looks anyway? Ads, here's some ads. We're back and yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the protests have continued. Garrison and I nearly got

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Speaker 2: four members of the press. Pretty nasty scene. Yesterday was

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Speaker 2: We had not intended to do more protests last night,

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Speaker 2: Thank god I got to catch the Bill Clinton speech.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to miss that Barn Berner.

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Speaker 4: Affiliate Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 4: He also spoke very early on in the night, and

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Speaker 2: It wasn't great, and it was bad.

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Speaker 4: It was bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why speech.

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Speaker 4: Don't speak for that long if your speech is bad.

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Speaker 4: But also just like, don't invite him in the first place.

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Speaker 2: It's because, probably because of the sheet amount of clout

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Speaker 2: It was fine. It was not like he was just

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Speaker 3: Thankfully, more important things happened, if not inside the DNC,

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Speaker 2: So while we were watching Mindy Kaling talk about how

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Speaker 2: some representatives of the uncommitted movement. So the uncommitted movement

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Speaker 2: And particularly Chicago massive Palestinian population, it could be something

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Speaker 2: So the uncommitted movement has kind of coalesced over the

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Speaker 2: No, that's and those people you know come here representing

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Speaker 3: And at least in terms of the actuality and ce

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Speaker 3: Sure, And but the dn Z doesn't even want that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and did you go to any other protests that night, Robert.

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Speaker 3: Once we get back to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Once we get back to Vegas, CS right around the corner, Buddy.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get that close.

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Speaker 3: It's the Secret Service like headquarters essentially. Right, the vice

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Speaker 2: No, And I didn't even see any implication that people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we will go on an ad break

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, which is not surprising because the South side

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Speaker 2: you'd better be aware of a man named Leroy Brown.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Garrison stands about six foot four, so this.

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Speaker 3: Week has lasted a month.

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Speaker 2: I've aged all the downtown ladies call him treetop Lover.

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Speaker 2: But before the men just call him sir if you

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Speaker 2: were curious about his pronouns. I'm just trying to make

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Speaker 2: sure that.

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Speaker 3: We refer to the theme for Wednesday Night inside the

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Speaker 3: DNC was a fight for our democracy and with like

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Speaker 3: a big emphasis on like trying to maintain the freedoms

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Speaker 3: that we now have. There's a lot of we're not

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Speaker 3: going back chance that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: A lot of speech is focused on redefining freedom.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and curious this is this is kind of part

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Speaker 3: of like this like liberal reclaim, like Patriot has been

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Speaker 3: freedom that I've kind of been talking about these past

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Speaker 3: few weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's probably the smartest thing they could be doing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So this was kind of the main push not

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Speaker 3: only how Democrats will continue to secure these freedoms, but

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Speaker 3: if Trump is elected, these freedoms will be gone and people.

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Speaker 3: The judge gave an okave speech, you know, talking about

464
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Speaker 3: how his current life being married with kids was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, impossible twenty five years ago, and if Project

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five gets enacted, it will be no longer

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Speaker 3: possible anymore. So like a lot of stuff kind of

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Speaker 3: like that. Oprah Winfrey showed up and gave a very

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Speaker 3: long speech.

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Speaker 2: I did have a moment of very jarring disconnect where

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Speaker 2: as I listened to the boss who was openly weeping

472
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Speaker 2: talking about his grandmother having to flee her home in

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Speaker 2: Lebanon as it was bombed. And then I look up

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Speaker 2: as this man is crying on the ground talking about

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Speaker 2: his grandmother fleeing bombs and there's Oprah Winfrey's giant head

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Speaker 2: speaking on the JumboTron above me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, similar to the R and Z.

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Speaker 5: What the crowd startage to USA, USA, USA during Oprah's speech.

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Speaker 5: I I got one of what those alerts said my

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Speaker 5: smart watch that my heart was wast was a little.

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Speaker 4: Too high, which again very funny. That's all that it

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Speaker 4: takes to trigger my poor little heart.

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Speaker 2: I got supplement, Sophie, let's take though.

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Speaker 3: And then even though there's just all this like you know, freedom,

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Speaker 3: democracy stuff, it was also some of the most conservative

486
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Speaker 3: speakers of the night were also here. There was there,

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Speaker 3: There was a few police officers. There was a shriff

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Speaker 3: talking about the border and how how Trump killed the

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Speaker 3: most secure border bill. Even though they're denying any any

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Speaker 3: Palestinian to speak on the main stage, they are inviting,

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Speaker 3: like former Trump co workers, a shriff, police officer. So

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Speaker 3: all of these guys are speaking, which people are are

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Speaker 3: similarly pointing to, is is, you know, showcasing what exactly

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Speaker 3: the DNC I think actually cares about right now? But

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Speaker 3: I think that's I just want to go straight over

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Speaker 3: to mister Coach Walls. Right before he came out, volunteers

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Speaker 3: at the convention center were handing out these big Coach

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Speaker 3: Walls signs. There must have must have been thousands of

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Speaker 3: them just handing them out to like everyone on the floor,

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Speaker 3: almost everyone in the stands, just the whole the whole

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Speaker 3: stadium was full of people holding these big Coach Walls signs.

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Speaker 3: He comes out into stage and people seem to really

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Speaker 3: like him. He gave a short but sweet speech. I

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Speaker 3: guess he was one of the most efficient speakers of

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Speaker 3: the night. He talked a lot about schools and how

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Speaker 3: how schools are kind of one of the big battlegrounds

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Speaker 3: for freedom right now because he used to be a

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Speaker 3: teacher for you know, geography as well as as well

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Speaker 3: as football. He had this line that instead of instead

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Speaker 3: of banning books, we've been banishing hunger in his schools.

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Speaker 3: How he signed that free lunch bill. Meanwhile, all these

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Speaker 3: Republicans are just trying to ban science books, ban social studies,

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Speaker 3: and he's giving kids free food. So a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff about protecting schools, a lot of stuff about empowering

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Speaker 3: teachers that got great reactions from the crowd. So I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there's plenty of teachers here at the DNC.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of crowd reactions, Joe Biden was very briefly mentioned

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Speaker 5: in the thank You Joe chance that normally go on

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Speaker 5: for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: They've been getting shorter, getting shorter, shorter, getting shorter and shorter.

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Speaker 3: It was quite.

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Speaker 5: Literally thank you Joe once and then thank you, and

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Speaker 5: then he kept talking and the chance ended.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the part along to weaning themselves off of

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Speaker 2: hair Joe in so Walls could.

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Speaker 3: Walls's approach in his speech was similarly on this like

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Speaker 3: freedom and democracy theme. One of the reoccurring talking points

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Speaker 3: he used was back in either Minnesota or Nebraska, because

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Speaker 3: he's lived in both places. Their golden rule is to

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Speaker 3: mind your own damn business, and that's kind of his

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Speaker 3: his stated approach to a lot of these things. It's

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Speaker 3: like Republicans are trying to get up into your business.

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Speaker 3: The Republicans talk about freedom but what they really mean

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Speaker 3: is freedom for the government to get involved in your

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Speaker 3: own business. Yes, saying that the Democrats are going to

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Speaker 3: not do such a thing where we're going to keep

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Speaker 3: the government out of your doctor's office. We're going to

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Speaker 3: provide reproductive freedom. That that's kind of the messaging that

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Speaker 3: he kept using because consistently throughout the night about being

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Speaker 3: a good neighbor, calling you know, stuff like Project twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five, an agenda that no one has really asked for,

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Speaker 3: but Republican like oligarchs are trying to force upon the

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Speaker 3: nation just to get more involved in everyone's lives. And

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Speaker 3: this is something that me and Robert we're talking about

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Speaker 3: kind of back in the hotels. Everyone really likes like

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Speaker 3: libertarian messaging. Yeah, Like this style of messaging always plays

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Speaker 3: very well. People just don't like actual libertarians and they

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Speaker 3: don't like, you know, lots of like libertarian like you know,

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Speaker 3: urban policy, right, but this style of messaging typically plays

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Speaker 3: really well. It is something that Republicans have been using increasingly,

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Speaker 3: like since like the Tea Party and stuff, and because

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Speaker 3: the Republican Party has has gotten much more authoritarian over

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Speaker 3: the years. I think it's interesting to see the Democrats

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Speaker 3: are starting to realize that they can actually weaponize this

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Speaker 3: style of framing themselves to a very good reaction. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is where we get these big we're not going

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Speaker 3: back chance.

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Speaker 5: He in one of his many sports metaphors, he said,

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Speaker 5: when somebody draws up a playbook, they're going to use it,

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Speaker 5: referred to Project twenty twenty five, and the crowd loved that.

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Speaker 3: A lot of sports references that I saw many sports

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Speaker 3: reference I did not really get.

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Speaker 2: But that's okay, cause you guys don't like the only

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Speaker 2: real sport.

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Speaker 5: In this line, I was translating all the sports references

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Speaker 5: to Robert, you don't know sports.

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Speaker 2: I know football, great, sob Anyways.

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Speaker 3: He also talked about things that Kamala has helped fight for,

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Speaker 3: including fighting big pharma, security rights for workers, healthcare, and housing.

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Speaker 3: There's are just a few of the actual kind of

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Speaker 3: still not not super big policy things, but hinting towards

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Speaker 3: policy things that Democrats had gotten closer to over these

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Speaker 3: last few days as they did release their actual like

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Speaker 3: DNC party platform. And finally, the kind of last thing

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Speaker 3: I want to mention is that with like buddhaj Edge

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Speaker 3: and a few a few other like LGBTQ speakers. You know,

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Speaker 3: Walls talked about how he sponsored the Gaystraight Alliance in

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Speaker 3: the nineties and that under his and Kamala's watch, the

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Speaker 3: government's gonna stay out of your bedroom. Similarly, you know,

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Speaker 3: going back to this like freedom messaging, but there has

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Speaker 3: been these few mentions of like, you know, keeping the

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Speaker 3: government out of the bedroom.

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Speaker 4: And like doctor's appointments as well.

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Speaker 3: Doctors appointments and and and not regressing on LGBTQ rights.

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Speaker 3: There's been very little actually talked about positively about helping

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Speaker 3: secure the LGBTQ rights that are currently like actually a jeopardy,

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Speaker 3: like specifically like trans healthcare. Like there's not been a

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Speaker 3: trans speaker at the DNC. I've heard almost no mention

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Speaker 3: of trans issues on any of the speeches or any

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Speaker 3: of the or any of the panels. And that this is,

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Speaker 3: I guess just slightly. I don't know. I guess I

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Speaker 3: was expecting something, honestly on this because this is such

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Speaker 3: a big topic for Republicans, because there was consistently every

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Speaker 3: night mentions of trans people at at the RNC, I

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Speaker 3: was expecting at least some degree for the DNC to

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Speaker 3: like push back on that. And be like, no, we

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Speaker 3: actually are gonna make sure we have health care for

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Speaker 3: trans people and make sure that trans people are not

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Speaker 3: and fairly discriminated against. And they have just sidesteped this

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Speaker 3: whole issue, and that has been that's that's not great.

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Speaker 3: That is that is another thing as well as Palestine

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Speaker 3: to push them on, because this is like literally one

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Speaker 3: of the core parts of the Republican Party right now

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Speaker 3: is attacking the ability for trans people to not only

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Speaker 3: get healthier, but it's just to exist in public life.

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Speaker 2: And it's specifically something Walls has a really good record on.

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Speaker 3: Yes, some of these people do have a good recordation.

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Speaker 2: Ban and stuff, so it's not something that they have

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Speaker 2: shied away from in their own electoral history.

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Speaker 3: But at least at the DNC, they're not putting it

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Speaker 3: on like the national stage, and maybe they think it

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Speaker 3: won't play well. Maybe they think it's a little bit

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Speaker 3: too weird for some of the people that they're trying

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Speaker 3: to kind of court their votes for. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the calculation is a little different. The

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Speaker 2: only direct references I've heard of trans people have been

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Speaker 2: as part of LGBTQ. I wonder if there's a degree

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Speaker 2: of strategy where they're thinking, like the smart way to

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Speaker 2: play this is to reconnect trans people with LGBTQ as

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Speaker 2: opposed to deal with it as if there's some sort

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Speaker 2: of like separate thing going on. I wonder if that's

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Speaker 2: a calculation that they're making. I don't know, but you're right,

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Speaker 2: it is kind of It is very conspicuous in its absence.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we just had this massive flare about the

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Speaker 3: Olympics with this like increasing like trans panic stuff, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just something I've observed the past few days that

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Speaker 3: we'll see if we'll see if there's anything Tonight, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to try to talk to the people who've been

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Speaker 3: at the LGBTQ caucuses these past few days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to end by just as we're recording this,

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Speaker 2: it's come out Mother Jones is published at the text

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Speaker 2: of the speech that the Uncommitted Movement wanted to give

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Speaker 2: it the DNC. This was from rep Rua Roman was

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Speaker 2: supposed to be the one giving this and this was

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Speaker 2: like specifically turned down by the Democratic Party And I

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Speaker 2: want to read a couple of paragraphs from it just

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Speaker 2: to give you an idea. Again, make it very clear

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Speaker 2: the actual kind of rhetoric, and how modest it is

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Speaker 2: that these people are using in this pain. I've also

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Speaker 2: witnessed something profound, a beautiful, multi faith, multiracial, and multi

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Speaker 2: generational coalition rising from despair within our Democratic Party. For

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Speaker 2: three undred and twenty days, we've stood together, demanding to

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Speaker 2: enforce our laws on friend and foe alike, to reach

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Speaker 2: a ceasefire in the killing of Palestinians, free all the

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Speaker 2: Israelian Palestinian hostages, and to begin the difficult work of

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Speaker 2: building a path to collective peace and safety. That's why

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Speaker 2: we are here, members of this Democratic Party, committed to

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Speaker 2: equal rights and dignity for all. What we do here

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Speaker 2: echoes around the world. They'll say, this is how it's

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Speaker 2: always been. That nothing can change. But remember Fanny lou

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Speaker 2: Hamer shunned for her courage, yet she paved the way

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Speaker 2: for an integrated Democratic Party. Her legacy lives on and

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Speaker 2: it's her example we follow. But we can't do it alone.

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Speaker 2: This historic moment is full of promise, but only if

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Speaker 2: we stand together. Our party's greatest strength has always been

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Speaker 2: our ability to unite. Some say that as a weakness,

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Speaker 2: but it's time we flex that strength. Let's commit to

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Speaker 2: each other, to electing Vice President Harris and defeating Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: who uses my identity as a Palestinian as a slur.

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Speaker 2: Let's fight for the politics long overdue, from restoring access

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Speaker 2: to abortions, to ensuring a living wage to demanding an

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Speaker 2: end to reckless war and a ceasefire in Gaza. To

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Speaker 2: those who doubt us, to the Senate and naysayers, I say,

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Speaker 2: yes we can. Yes, we can be a democratic party

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Speaker 2: that prioritizes funding our schools and hospitals, not for endless wars,

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Speaker 2: that fights for in America, that belongs to all of us, black, brown,

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Speaker 2: and white, Jews and Palestinians, all of us, like my

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Speaker 2: grandfather taught me together Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's the least

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Speaker 2: objectionable thing I can imagine. Yeah. So, anyway, that's what

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Speaker 2: the DNC didn't want people to hear.

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Speaker 4: Very despicable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is how we're going to be closing

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Speaker 3: this week of coverage. We will start next week's episodes

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Speaker 3: by talking about the final day of the DNC, including

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris's speech. And I also have some kind of

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Speaker 3: disjointed thoughts I'll try to put together more about some

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Speaker 3: of like the discourse revolving around some of these protests,

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Speaker 3: how they've been handled a few like tactics things. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: this has been this week at It could happen here, yep.

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Speaker 3: Recording from Chicago, Illinois. Nice exhausted, Well.

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Speaker 2: You guys, listen to the speeches. I'm going to try

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Speaker 2: to find Jake Tapper at the Politico Bar and Grill

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, read him the lyrics of ad

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Speaker 2: Badle Roy Brown. Let us know all that baddest man

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Speaker 2: in the whole damn town.

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Speaker 5: Normally I would I would be against abandoning you at

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Speaker 5: a big public event.

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Speaker 2: But see you, it's fine. If it turns into a fistfight.

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Speaker 2: I feel confident we all do it. I feel very

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Speaker 2: confident I can win.

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Speaker 3: If you're getting close to Jacapper, it's going to turn

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Speaker 3: into a fistfight. We all know this, all right, Bye,

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Speaker 3: bye horrible.

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