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Speaker 1: Secretary of State Mark Or Rubio told reporters a short

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Speaker 1: time ago that he was expecting Iran's response to US

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Speaker 1: peace proposal at any moment. The Trump administration has offered

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Speaker 1: to Ran a fifteen point plan to end the war,

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Speaker 1: and this comes as the two sides could potentially begin

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Speaker 1: face to face negotiations in the near future. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, the US is sending thousands of troops to

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. The Secretary of Rubio says that Iranian

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Speaker 1: military capabilities can be destroyed without putting any American troops

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Speaker 2: Listen, we can achieve We are achieving all those objectives.

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Speaker 3: We are head of schedule on most of them, and

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Speaker 3: we can achieve them without any ground troops, without any Now,

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Speaker 3: in terms of why there's deployment, number one, the president

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Speaker 3: has to be prepared for multiple contingencies, which I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to discuss in the media. And again I refer

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Speaker 3: to the Department of War, who will talk probably tell

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Speaker 3: you the exact same thing. But we can achieve all

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Speaker 3: of our objectives with our ground troops. But we are

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Speaker 3: always going to be prepared to give the president maximum

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Speaker 4: So we don't have the exact number of servicemen or

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Speaker 4: women who were actually injured during this attack. But I

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Speaker 4: of the service members did have shrapnel wounds, but they

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Speaker 4: I'm also told that aircrafts at least one aircraft was

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Speaker 4: damaged in this strike, but it's not something that's going

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Speaker 4: to totally take out their capabilities on that air base. Now,

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Speaker 4: in terms of the shrapnel wounds, in terms of the

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Speaker 4: on how many service members men and women were actually injured.

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Speaker 4: We do not have clarity on what those injuries were,

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Speaker 4: other than the at least two service men and women

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Speaker 4: all of this is going to further complicate what is

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Speaker 4: for diplomacy, these ongoing negotiations. And I will say we

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Speaker 4: that they were waiting to hear from Iran on that

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Speaker 4: fifteen point plan, and that they still didn't know who

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Speaker 4: that's so critical, that fifteen point plan, I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: supposed to be the basis of these negotiations. So if

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Speaker 4: Iran doesn't accept that, what are they actually going to

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Speaker 4: late this weekend or early next week. But when it

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Speaker 4: comes to what happened in Saudi Arabia, I mean, this

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Speaker 4: It does sound like the injuries that we know of

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Speaker 4: very fluid situation. After this Iranian missile strike, it's now.

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Speaker 5: One other thing.

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Speaker 6: Troops on the ground. He said, no troops on the ground.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember that in any campaign speech either. But

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Speaker 5: why would we need troops on the ground. Well, there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of reasons, and we wouldn't need three hundred

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Speaker 5: get the uranium. If it cannot be destroyed, if it

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Speaker 5: cannot be altered, we got to get it for the

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Speaker 5: reason I just said, you can make dirty bombs, and

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Speaker 5: over time you can still make sophisticated missiles. So you

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Speaker 5: in the paper. We're talking about the eighty second Airborne.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about these very special forces and the various

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Speaker 7: All day long, through rain or shine, Massive crowds poured

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Speaker 7: all with a unif buying message there are no Kings

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Speaker 7: in America and justin The No King's Coalition, which is

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Speaker 7: made up of organizers of rallies nationwide, tells MS now

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Speaker 7: that an estimated eight million people showed up to today's demonstrations,

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Speaker 7: making it the largest single day nonviolent protest in modern

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Speaker 7: American history. Organizers in Chicago estimated that about two hundred

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Speaker 7: an estimated three hundred and fifty thousand people showed up

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Speaker 7: for reference the first No King's Day last June drew

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Speaker 7: an estimated five million people. The second one, held in

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Speaker 7: was held today in Minneapolis, which has of course become

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Speaker 7: the site of some of the Trump administration's most glaring

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Speaker 8: Every morning, when I get up, I reach my phone

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Speaker 8: l gatest outrage from our would be king.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's amazing.

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Speaker 8: Every day there's something new and crazy, but it's different

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Speaker 8: on this day because all over the country, in cities

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Speaker 8: millions of us are coming together to declare no Kings.

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Speaker 8: It is indeed a beautiful, hopeful day in the United

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Speaker 8: States of America, and you, Minnesota, are at the epicenter.

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Speaker 8: It is your courage and your commitment that have inspired

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Speaker 8: all of us. You have shown the power of nonviolent protests.

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Speaker 8: You have shown bravery in the face of armed attack

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Speaker 8: by government thugs, and you stood together and ran them

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Speaker 8: out of town. Toast yourselves, pat yourselves on the back,

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Speaker 8: take a bow, but don't take a break. Because today

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Speaker 8: and everything that has gone before is just a start,

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Speaker 8: a rehearsal for the big show that's coming. You know,

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Speaker 8: the arrogant would be king is absolutely scared to death

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Speaker 8: about losing his power and will do everything he can

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Speaker 8: to hold on to it without regard to legality, morality, humanity, nothing.

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Speaker 8: We will face greater challenges down the road. For everything

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Speaker 8: you've done, Thank you, and now expect to be asked

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Speaker 8: to do more.

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Speaker 6: I know you will answer the call.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Hello Minnesota, Welcome to the freest state in the nation.

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Speaker 9: A state where you love who you choose to love,

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Speaker 9: a state where you make your healthcare decisions, a state

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Speaker 9: where you worship or not according to your own beliefs,

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Speaker 9: and maybe most importantly, a state wherevery one belongs.

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Speaker 10: Well, this past winner, federal troops brought death and terror

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Speaker 10: to the streets of Minneapolis. Well, they picked the wrong city.

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Speaker 10: The power and the solidarity of the people of Minneapolis,

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Speaker 10: of Minnesota was an inspiration to the entire country. Your

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Speaker 10: strength and your commitment told us that this is still America,

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Speaker 10: and this reactionary nightmare and these invasions of American cities

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Speaker 10: will not stand. You gave us hope you gave us courage.

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Speaker 10: And for those who gave their lives. Renee Good, mother

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Speaker 10: of three, brutally murdered, alex pretty v, a nurse, executed

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Speaker 10: names will not be forgotten.

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Speaker 11: Pakistan is hosting foreign ministers from Turkey, Egypt, and Saudi

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Speaker 11: US Israeli operation in Iran. Now the countries have seen

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Speaker 11: their borders and energy security come under threat as well.

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Speaker 12: I believe Russia is actively helping Iran target American for

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Speaker 12: instances right now. I think that Russia in Russian interest

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Speaker 12: to help Uranians. And I not believe I know that

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Speaker 12: they share information. If they make images once they are prepared.

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Speaker 12: If they make images the second time, it's like simulation.

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Speaker 12: The short time, it's meant that one two days they

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Speaker 6: Right, yeah, this is what you know.

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Speaker 12: That's why if I get not once the information from

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Speaker 12: my intelligence that they that they make images of American days,

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Speaker 12: I mean, listen, this is the answer. Do they help Uranians.

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Speaker 12: Of course, how many percent? One hundred percent? Yes, you

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Speaker 12: think it's in Vladimir's interest for this war, Yes, you

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Speaker 12: go a dragon, one hundred I think the traject needs

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Speaker 13: Be on Middle Is.

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Speaker 5: And you know what else, I remember from my days

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Speaker 5: in the regular administration, many of them are trained for

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Speaker 5: a moment like this, to try and secure enriched uranium.

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Speaker 5: Many have been trained for moments like this. I guess

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Speaker 5: what I'm trying to say is we're in good hands. No,

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Speaker 5: not with all state, but we're President Trump because he's

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Speaker 5: a man with enormous intelligence, enormous common sense. He's not

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Speaker 5: an idiolog. He doesn't run around with slogans. He's prudential.

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Speaker 5: He looks the facts, he looks at the challenge, and

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Speaker 5: he's dealing with it. Now, you might say, but he's

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Speaker 5: negotiating a peace deal. First of all, did you look

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Speaker 5: at those fifteen points that were in the media.

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Speaker 14: You know what that was?

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Speaker 5: That was unconditional surrender. The Iranians apparently said no. The

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Speaker 2: Since nine to eleven, a whole bunch of of the leadership,

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Speaker 2: including bin Laden's son escaped from Afghanistan to Iran. We're

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Speaker 2: given sanctuary by the Iranian regime and they've been using

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Speaker 2: al Qaeda and Iran have teamed up for a series

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Speaker 2: of terrorist attacks against US. People don't realize this, but

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Speaker 2: we remember the bombings of the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania,

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Speaker 14: So the idea that.

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Speaker 2: Iran, which is Shia, and al Qaeda, which is Sunni,

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Speaker 2: would cooperate is not beyond measure. In fact, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know the hamasas Sunni. Also, Iran works with Sunni

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Speaker 2: for what we've done, the easiest way to do it

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Speaker 2: got to get what Donald Trump correctly calls the nuclear

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Speaker 15: The prison said, look, we've accomplished the gross majority of

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Speaker 15: our military objectives. I think you make a good argument,

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Speaker 15: we've accomplished all of our military objectives. The prison is

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Speaker 15: going to keep at it for a little while longer

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Speaker 15: to ensure that we once we leave, we don't have

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Speaker 15: to do this again for a very very long time.

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Speaker 15: That was fundamentally the President's goal is said, look, this country,

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Speaker 15: they're threatening us in.

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Speaker 14: All these ways.

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Speaker 15: They're still trying to build a nuclear weapon. We need

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Speaker 15: to neuter them for a very very long time, and

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Speaker 15: that's the purpose.

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Speaker 14: You're right.

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Speaker 15: Gas prices have certainly gone up because of what's going

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 15: This is a very very temporary reaction to what is

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Speaker 15: going to ultimately be a short term conflict. I think

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Speaker 15: the President has been very clear about this that we're

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Speaker 15: not interested in being in Iran a year down the road,

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Speaker 15: two years down the road. We're taking care of business.

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Speaker 15: We're going to be out of there soon, and gas

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Speaker 2: I've never seen you know, I know that people turned

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Speaker 2: turned against Afghanistan after a period of time, the Democrats did.

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Speaker 2: But I've never seen a war where the Democrats turned

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Speaker 2: You know, there are people in this country who hate

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Speaker 16: Come, mothers and fathers throughout the land, and don't criticize

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Speaker 14: This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

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Speaker 18: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 16: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 14: Use your host, Stephen.

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Speaker 18: It's Palm Sunday, twenty nine March. You're our Lord, twenty

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Speaker 14: Right there. We've got two messages.

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Speaker 14: We're going down.

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Speaker 18: Jim Fanella has been showing us every day a methodical

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Speaker 14: The Iraq War. Everybody got it wrong in the Iraq War.

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Speaker 14: In your thoughts on all this.

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Speaker 20: Sir, well, First, Steve, let me speak to Palm Sunday

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Speaker 20: America should be irate about it. It is unprecedented and wrong. Second,

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Speaker 13: In a.

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Speaker 14: Hang hang on one second before we go to number two.

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Speaker 14: I want to go back to number one.

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Speaker 18: My understanding after this story broke and with my inquiries,

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Speaker 20: In fact, in the cardinal in his statement even said

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Speaker 13: This is a really really bad look for.

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Speaker 20: Look you, it starts to take away any understanding about

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Speaker 14: Today, Eric, go on your bullet point number two.

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Speaker 20: Bulletpoint two state we live in a very in a

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Speaker 18: Could you could you actually uh do a without active

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Speaker 13: Again? That's uh, that's pretty sporty.

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Speaker 20: And an airborne invasion in a place that has thousands

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Speaker 13: Not to mention the Iranians have been learning.

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Speaker 20: They've certainly been paying attention to modern drone warfare, and

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Speaker 20: They're not Arabs, They're Aryans. They are a highly intelligent,

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Speaker 20: negotiating peace with.

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Speaker 18: Look, clearly President Trump I keep saying, and Rubyo picked

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Speaker 18: it up optionality. He needs optionality and needs a range

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Speaker 18: of alternatives. And you're never going to give your strategy.

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Speaker 18: How that being said, the National Security Advisor Marco Ruby

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Speaker 18: and the Vice President were pretty adamant to go back

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Speaker 18: to the military objectas President Trump doesn't even refer to

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Speaker 18: as a warning more it's a military operation. You've got

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Speaker 18: those four or five objectives of you know, de industrialize them,

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Speaker 18: taking out the Navy, taking out the Air Force. There

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Speaker 18: their their defense capabilities, air capabilities. We have air supremacy now,

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Speaker 18: at least air superiority. You know, and Marco was adamant,

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Speaker 18: are pretty adamant and repeated many times.

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Speaker 14: We're not going to need combat troops for.

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Speaker 18: This is is is the combat troops we have in

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Speaker 18: another ten thousand being prepped? Is that so President Trump

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Speaker 18: has another option? Is it we're leverage against these guys?

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Speaker 14: Or how real?

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Speaker 18: How real do you feel right now moving into take

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Speaker 18: to make sure they take that those those couple of

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Speaker 18: islands down by straight.

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Speaker 14: Or horror moves than carg Island, And you're.

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Speaker 18: Thinking this through and putting in that logistics base or

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Speaker 18: that logistics premise a predicate, How real do you think

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Speaker 18: we're moving on with the cheerleading of Mark Levin and

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Speaker 18: Tiesen and all these other you know, the Lindsay Grahams

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Speaker 18: of the world, how realistic do you think it looks

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Speaker 18: like combat troops?

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Speaker 13: Well, unlike the shattering classes in Washington.

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Speaker 20: And see I've actually sailed through the streets of Hormos

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Speaker 20: on a sailboat, oddly enough, with a huge blackwater logo

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Speaker 20: on the sail doing a.

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Speaker 13: Race du bay, a musket race.

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Speaker 20: It's narrow, and those two islands on the north side,

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Speaker 20: one is Kesham and one is Laric Keshim is the

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Speaker 20: size of Okinawa. Laric is the size of you Regima.

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Speaker 20: Anybody that knows anything of American maritime amphibious history knows

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Speaker 20: those names and how many thousands and thousands of soldiers

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Speaker 20: were killed by a very dug in enemy. Now, those

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Speaker 20: islands are generally flat, so even if you put guys

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Speaker 20: over the beach and you take them the bunkers prepared

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Speaker 20: fortifications which I would imagine are there worse than that.

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Speaker 20: On the mainland Iran, there are mountains very very close

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Speaker 20: by which are also laced with caves, tunnels and survivability

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Speaker 20: from which can be launched rockets, missiles, and drones, making

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Speaker 20: both of those islands that you're trying to put but

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Speaker 20: potentially putting reads ashore as one large beaten zone. And

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Speaker 20: I think it's important to think of other military history

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Speaker 20: of a brand amphibious operation planned by the British in

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Speaker 20: World War Two at Gallipoli, right, which is to try

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Speaker 20: to take the Dardanelles and take out Turkey from the war.

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Speaker 20: And it ended very badly because they never seized the highlands,

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Speaker 20: and so seizing those highlands.

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Speaker 14: It's critical.

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Speaker 18: Hang of one second you went there, you brought up Gallipoli.

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Speaker 18: We're gonna make you stick around. Eric Princess with us

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Speaker 18: on Palm Sunday. Captain James Fanel, Doctor Bradley Thayer on

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Speaker 18: the War Ones.

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Speaker 17: One War Room, use your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 12: Bath.

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Speaker 18: So Ben Harnwell has gotten us. The Times of Israel

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Speaker 18: is reporting now about the incident. Eric with the cardinal

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Speaker 18: in Italy is furious about this. I think they've called

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Speaker 18: the ambassador over. Maloney is taking this personally for action.

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Speaker 18: So we'll have more in that, Ben Harnwell, Jack Pasopic

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Speaker 18: in the next hour before I get back to Gallipoli,

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Speaker 18: or to the great one, Alexander the Great and his

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Speaker 18: his trial and tribulations in the same part of the

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Speaker 18: world where where we have our navy and we're sending,

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Speaker 18: potentially sending young American men and women. Give me a

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Speaker 18: second on the Cardinal. You know him personally, what type

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Speaker 18: of guy is he?

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Speaker 20: He's a very non nonsense guy in certainly was a

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Speaker 20: candidate to be to be the Pope, but a serious guy,

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Speaker 20: not a crazy not a crazy person. And so again,

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Speaker 20: keeping with his obligation and joy to celebrate Mass on

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Speaker 20: Palm Sunday, to be blocked is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 13: And he knowing that guy, he did not.

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Speaker 20: Do that as some provocation but an expectation, as his

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Speaker 20: forefathers did, as his predecessors did for centuries, even during

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Speaker 20: other wars World War one, World War two, other clashes

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Speaker 20: in the Middle East, mass was always open for business,

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Speaker 20: but not apparently under the IDF.

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Speaker 14: Now, yeah, we're going to get more into that.

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Speaker 18: By the way, So you were talking about Gallipoli, right,

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Speaker 18: and this is from the landmark arian, the great historian

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Speaker 18: of Alexander the greats campaign on his retreat back from

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Speaker 18: India where I guess Eric his generals they had a

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Speaker 18: council of war when they got too far in India,

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Speaker 18: after they'd gone through the Kyber passed and fought their

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Speaker 18: way with eight thousand miles, they said, hey, maybe we

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Speaker 18: ought to just go back to Baghdad or Babylon and regroup.

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Speaker 18: That's the coast you're talking about. That camera can be

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Speaker 18: pulled in. And if you read this history, as you

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Speaker 18: know Eric, it was absolutely brutal. In fact, it was

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Speaker 18: such a brutal retreat our march back up country that

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Speaker 18: he put half of his army with one of his generals, on.

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Speaker 14: A fleet that went through hormones.

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Speaker 18: And when people say it's twenty one miles wide the

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Speaker 18: channel itself, I think it's like two miles.

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Speaker 14: They say five.

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Speaker 18: But having I didn't have the pleasure of going on

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Speaker 18: Eric's Blackwater excursion, I actually did it on a Navy combatant.

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Speaker 18: But you're right, it's a.

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Speaker 14: Very dangerous sea detail.

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Speaker 18: And that's under the best circumstances, right, just with so

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Speaker 18: much traffic in these little dows going around kind of

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Speaker 18: like going into Hong Kong in the old days. But Eric,

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Speaker 18: you brought up Gallipoli talk about this second said, this

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Speaker 18: is very in hospital.

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Speaker 14: You got right when you go through Hermoge, you got

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Speaker 14: those cliffs.

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Speaker 18: In fact, I don't even think that the tribes down there,

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Speaker 18: I believe are not even Persian. I think it down

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Speaker 18: there they got some Arab tribes that think it's their territory.

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Speaker 18: They're very territorial. These are kind of like the Houtis.

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Speaker 18: These are tough kind of mountain people, the very tough

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Speaker 18: you know, nri and we tried to take them out

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Speaker 18: with with the with the two thousand pound bombs, and

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Speaker 18: you know these guys are these guys are fighters.

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Speaker 14: But why do you do the comparison to Gallipoli.

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Speaker 20: Well, that was a planned, massive amphibious operation planned by

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Speaker 20: the British against the Turkey the Turks in World War One,

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Speaker 20: and it went terribly sixty thousand dead, two hundred and

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Speaker 20: fifty thousand casualties, dozens of vessels lost. Again assaulting up

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Speaker 20: difficult terrain. Those islands, like I talked about in the

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Speaker 20: in the in the Gulf are are fairly flat, but

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Speaker 20: they're immediately backed by steep terrain which contains lots and

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Speaker 20: lots and lots of fortifications. Again fifteen point plan. Whatever

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Speaker 20: I want, trust me, I want America to succeed. I

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Speaker 20: want this to be done. This is I don't believe

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Speaker 20: this was in our strategic interest in the first place.

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Speaker 20: So I would like to extricate the United States as

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Speaker 20: quickly and as painlessly as possible. But trying smashing in

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Speaker 20: with an amphibious operation in the front door is exceedingly

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Speaker 20: dangerous course of course of action, especially right if we

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Speaker 20: think again, the men in Washington is, oh, we've serviced

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Speaker 20: all these targets and there's only.

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Speaker 13: A few left, and it's great.

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Speaker 20: We did that already, supposedly to the Houtis, who had

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Speaker 20: been who had been shut They shut down the Sudd

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Speaker 20: and then in the Red Sea another choke point waterway

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Speaker 20: called the babumandab pouring billions of dollars worth of precision

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Speaker 20: weapons supposedly into those Hooti positions. Now the houtis compared

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Speaker 20: to the irgc are arag Peg ragtag bunch of guys.

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Speaker 20: And yet over that year and a half, two years

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Speaker 20: never affected their ability to choke off that waterway.

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Speaker 13: And so now if we think we're going to force

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Speaker 13: our way.

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Speaker 18: In, yeah, the horror moves just for our for audience,

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Speaker 18: for our audience on a Sunday morning, just for people

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Speaker 18: that have been over there and had to deal with this.

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Speaker 14: You get the hooties. You got guys in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 18: This is kind of, I say, the equivalent of the

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Speaker 18: Scotch Irish in Appalatia. These are tough ombrees. The houtis

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Speaker 18: the Egyptian Army lost I think twenty five thousand men

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Speaker 18: decades ago under Nassa trying to take them out. The

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Speaker 18: fifty the British, these are tough ombres. We've just seen

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Speaker 18: since President Trump came into power in seventeen, we saw

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Speaker 18: the Saudia's which are a disaster.

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Speaker 14: They're pretty pathetic.

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Speaker 18: But then you had you Ae, You've had some pretty

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Speaker 18: good operators take their best punch of these guys, and

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Speaker 18: including the United States Navy last summer, and they're still

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Speaker 18: kind of around. Hey for a second, because I know,

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Speaker 18: we got captain let's bring a Captain Fanel. Captain Fanel,

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Speaker 18: Marco Rubio and the Vice President are kind of taking

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Speaker 18: your line of saying, hey, look, we've got military objectives.

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Speaker 18: That's a military operation. We're pounding, we're defanging and declining. Historically,

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Speaker 18: we got a couple more weeks. Maybe that's two weeks,

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Speaker 18: maybe it's four weeks, but there's some period of time

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Speaker 18: that Armical Cooper has a timeline and the chairm of

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Speaker 18: the Joint Chiefs, General Kane, has a timeline, and we're

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Speaker 18: moving down here. Do you still believe in? I know,

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Speaker 18: because you're you're you've got a lot of insight baseball

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Speaker 18: on this. Do you stink we're still progressing down that

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Speaker 18: at the rate that you felt at first?

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Speaker 21: There's no question about us, Steve, we are progressing. Even

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Speaker 21: that Syentcom commanders said on I think on Friday that

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Speaker 21: we are on schedule or ahead of schedule, to the

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Speaker 21: plan that they've had. I think there's a bit of

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Speaker 21: cognizant cognizant dissonance going on in the media and what

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Speaker 21: we're hearing and being subjected to. And I saw the

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Speaker 21: front page of the New York Times today. There's an

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Speaker 21: article top above the fold quote a toothless Iran question

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Speaker 21: mark missiles and drone strikes show it can still inflict pain.

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Speaker 21: So that's the messaging that we're hearing from the media

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Speaker 21: and from all.

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Speaker 6: Kinds of sources.

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Speaker 21: And if that's true, and I think it is. I

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Speaker 21: think there's still some capability in and around clearly. But

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Speaker 21: if that's true, then how come we're not getting kind

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Speaker 21: of an objective assessment of what eleven thousand strike fights, flights,

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Speaker 21: combat missions, and over eleven thousand targets have struck and

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Speaker 21: targets that are like the Iranian Command Control centers, Iranian

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Speaker 21: communications military communications stations, IRGC headquarters, iERG intelligence sites, blistic

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Speaker 21: missile sites, drone sites, ballistic missile production facilities, drone production facilities,

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Speaker 21: and their navy with over one hundred and fifty vessels struck,

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Speaker 21: ninety two percent of their navy is erased. Their entire

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Speaker 21: Air Force is erased, and we are flying A tens.

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Speaker 21: We're flying Apache helicopters in and around and over Iranian territory.

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Speaker 21: Plus F fifteen's F sixteens, F twenty two is F

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Speaker 21: thirty fives. We're dominating them, but we're not getting that appreciation.

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Speaker 21: So what we hear is, well, we're going to get

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Speaker 21: a non sequitor about the Dardnells and Gallipoli as if

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Speaker 21: we didn't ever study history ourselves. We're getting a lot

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Speaker 21: of negativism where we should be asking ourselves, what is

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Speaker 21: the community the impact of four weeks of daily strikes

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Speaker 21: by the United States and Israel. And when then you

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Speaker 21: listen to the leadership, the President, the Secretary of War,

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Speaker 21: the National Security Advisor, the Vice President, all saying we're

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Speaker 21: there to neuter Iranian military capability. They're not saying they're

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Speaker 21: invading anything. They're talking about getting rid of the gun

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Speaker 21: from the Iranian regime and we're working on that.

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Speaker 6: Does that mean.

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Speaker 21: Every pistol will be destroyed? Does that mean every guy

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Speaker 21: in a cave will be destroyed? No, But what it

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Speaker 21: means is the massive build up that they've had for

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Speaker 21: fifty years, funded by the United States, funded by Russia,

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Speaker 21: funded by China. That's all being destroyed systematically, and that

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Speaker 21: is the mission that the President said. And I think

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Speaker 21: what's happened over since Vietnam, since I was a young

661
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Speaker 21: man and watch the Vietnam War and watch Walter Cronkin,

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Speaker 21: we have seen the politicization of our military analysts, our

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Speaker 21: military personnel are admirals and our generals and the people.

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Speaker 6: That report on it.

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Speaker 21: So now when we talk about war, we want to

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Speaker 21: talk about you know that go in four weeks right

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Speaker 21: to some kind.

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Speaker 6: Of what is the political outcome?

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Speaker 21: How come we haven't solved this as opposed to saying

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Speaker 21: we're going after a nation that spent forty seven years

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Speaker 21: arming itself as one of the most armed nations on

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Speaker 21: the planet, and we're systematically destroying it, and that this

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Speaker 21: idea that we're going to want to have immediate results,

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Speaker 21: you know, instant gratification without addressing if.

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Speaker 18: If hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, because

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Speaker 18: I feel like I'm getting I feel like I'm getting

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Speaker 18: Robert mcnamaray's report during Vietnam. I just find if this

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Speaker 18: is the case, no case of say hang on, hang on,

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Speaker 18: you give me the moral equivalent of a body count.

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Speaker 18: You give me a rocket count, you give me exactly.

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Speaker 18: You're doing nothing more than given a body count. However,

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Speaker 18: if that's the case, how did the Iranians shift and

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Speaker 18: take the initiative. They're getting so bombed, they've shifted the

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Speaker 18: center of gravity. You do agree, the center gravity this

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Speaker 18: war is not Tehran. The center gravity of this war

686
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Speaker 18: is the Persian Gulf and the straight of horror moves, Sir,

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Speaker 18: the center.

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Speaker 21: Of gravity is the Iranian regime and their ability to

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Speaker 21: threaten and inflict harm on United States, and or.

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Speaker 14: I just ask you reason. Then then you don't.

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Speaker 18: Then you don't, Then you don't understand where the center

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Speaker 18: gravity this battle has been for three weeks, since the

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Speaker 18: since the since the Israelis bombed. The center the center no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 18: not important, the center gravity of this battle. If you

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Speaker 18: think the center gravity of the battle is Tehran, you're

696
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Speaker 18: not understanding what's going on here. The center gravity this

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Speaker 18: battle has been now for two weeks. The Persian golf

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Speaker 18: and the straight of her moves.

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Speaker 14: That's obvious.

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Speaker 6: Moons, how do you control the straight of horror?

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Speaker 14: Moons moves?

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Speaker 6: Matt Namaras and not important.

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Speaker 21: We've got to get the military to destroy their capability.

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Speaker 19: Then why they're working when when we were there in

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Speaker 19: night hanging, when we were there in nineteen seventy nine

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Speaker 19: nineteen eighty, we controlled the straight of her moves.

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Speaker 18: We sent combatants up there to do early morning for

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Speaker 18: Russian aircraft, so we controlled it.

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Speaker 14: Then we don't control it now.

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Speaker 18: The United States Navy has not gone near there as

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Speaker 18: it sir Am I missing.

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Speaker 6: Yet, that's my point.

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Speaker 14: We're being Yet, don't have you've shut down, you've shut down,

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Speaker 14: you've shut.

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Speaker 18: You're you're in the process of destroying the world's economy.

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Speaker 18: Why that's my point is the center gravity is there.

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Speaker 18: Don't get me wrong. For limited military operation, which we

718
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Speaker 18: are doing against the regime, and I think doing magnificently,

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Speaker 18: that's what's happening.

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Speaker 14: But that's that's the moral equivalent of the body count

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Speaker 14: trained to chop up. Okay, go ahead, let's talk about facts.

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Speaker 21: Well, the facts are there hasn't been a mine in

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Speaker 21: the Strait. United United Kingdom Maritime Trade Office and their

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Speaker 21: Joint Maritime Information Reports are consistently saying there's no confirmed

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Speaker 21: minds in the string.

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Speaker 18: Hang on second, Jim, Jim, Okay, this right, hang on,

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Speaker 18: Hang on hang on, hang on, hang on, We're gonna

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Speaker 18: go to break right back. But you do agree that

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Speaker 18: the Revolutionary Guard has set up a toll booth for

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Speaker 18: the first time.

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Speaker 14: They have a toll booth, and they let in who

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Speaker 14: they want.

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Speaker 18: I think they let ten ships of the last couple

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Speaker 18: of days, of which they take a toll to go

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Speaker 18: to their partners, of which I think we allow them

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Speaker 18: to monetize their or anyway, Captain for now, Eric, Prince,

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Speaker 18: all of it.

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Speaker 14: Next war room, here's your host, Stephen k back.

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Speaker 18: So Eric, I m grey back to Campa for now,

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Speaker 18: but jump in any any any observations, and please no

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Speaker 18: non secuturs like Gallipoli again, sir.

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Speaker 20: Look, they had to they had to drive the MEW

743
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Speaker 20: over from the Pacific area, and they had to launch

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Speaker 20: another MEW urgently all the way from California, because I

745
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Speaker 20: don't think they really figured they were going to close

746
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Speaker 20: the straits of horn Moves. Yeah, the straits of Horror

747
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Speaker 20: Moves are the center of gravity. And the question is

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Speaker 20: it will remain closed and it will remain under the

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Speaker 20: control or influence of the IRGC for a long long time.

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Speaker 20: Their ability to inflict pain on any vessel transiting there

751
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Speaker 20: will remain extremely high even if you even if you

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Speaker 20: take the first fifty or one hundred miles of the

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Speaker 20: Straits of hor Moves, they can still launch and smash

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Speaker 20: commercial vessels.

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Speaker 13: There haven't been any.

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Speaker 20: Commercial vessels attacked or mines apparently, yeah, because they haven't

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Speaker 20: been trying to transit. Any vessels that are transitting are

758
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Speaker 20: now being forced through a narrow channel, not through the

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Speaker 20: normal shipping channel, but through the toll gate erected by

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Speaker 20: the Iranians going between Leric and Keshum Islands. So that

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Speaker 20: you're right, the center of gravity is the Straits of

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Speaker 20: war Moves. That is the basically the polled grenade pin

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Speaker 20: they have against the rest of the world economy. When

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Speaker 20: you have all of East Asian's economies going on severe

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Speaker 20: fuel rationing. Now thirty percent of the world's fertilizer supply,

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Speaker 20: twenty two percent of the gas, twenty percent of the

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Speaker 20: crude that's supposed to pass to the Straits of War

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Speaker 20: Moves largely is not other than the ones solely authorized

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Speaker 20: by the IRGC. Like to their friends the Chinese Communist Party,

770
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Speaker 20: this is not the first thing, like the first thing

771
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Speaker 20: you're supposed to learn when you join the US Navy

772
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 20: is power projection chow point control. We now the US

773
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Speaker 20: Navy does not control two choke points in the world.

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Speaker 13: This is bad, the.

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Speaker 18: Other choke point being the gated tiers down there at

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Speaker 18: the Red Sea of.

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Speaker 14: Where the hooties are the bibbleman, Dob hang on one second, Eric,

778
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 14: hang around.

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Speaker 18: Captain Finel, your assessment of this situation in the straight

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Speaker 18: oh removes and and all the way up to carg Island,

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Speaker 18: your assessment, Well.

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Speaker 21: There's no question is it is an important the point

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Speaker 21: that you've all said, and I'm not disagreeing with that fundamentally.

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Speaker 21: The question is how do you open it? And the

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00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 21: answer has to be to continue the plan that we're

786
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Speaker 21: working on and don't rush in there before you're ready.

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Speaker 21: And so, yes, it costs. The gas price of gas

788
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 21: has gone up a dollar. It's still under what it

789
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 21: was when Joe Biden was president. The point is is

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Speaker 21: that you have to make the battlefield ready and clear

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Speaker 21: that and I would say that indicators are that it's

792
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 21: becoming more and more ready to be transited by warships

793
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Speaker 21: that are escorting and providing these escorts for these tankers

794
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 21: in and out. Yes, they're running a tollbo through Keshman Lark.

795
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 21: We've seen that. But there are there ships that are

796
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Speaker 21: not squawking Ais that are coming through very small numbers,

797
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 21: less than a dozen. But this is happening. So why

798
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Speaker 21: is that happening? Why is it that the Iranians can't

799
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Speaker 21: see those ships that are not squawking Ais. Why is

800
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 21: it that they're The number of missile attacks and drone

801
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 21: attacks have dramatically dropped since twelve March, and I would

802
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Speaker 21: submit that it's because we are systematically destroying their capacity

803
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 21: to do anything in that region and all up through

804
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Speaker 21: the Strait of Hormuz and up up to car We're

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Speaker 21: working that.

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Speaker 6: It's not fitness yet, but we're working it.

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Speaker 21: And we're moving in and having the capacity to have

808
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Speaker 21: other carriers there. The FODO, by the way, with the

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Speaker 21: fire didn't go back to Konis. It left Suda Bay

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Speaker 21: and guess where it is right now. It's in Split

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Speaker 21: Yugoslavia Croatia and it's going to be repaired and probably

812
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Speaker 21: come back to the gunline. The USS George Bush is

813
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 21: now leaving the east coast and heading over to the

814
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 21: fight as well. So we are not backing off on

815
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Speaker 21: the campaign to vaporize, essentially, their missiles, their drones, their

816
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 21: mind layers, their fast attack speedboats, the fact that we're

817
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 21: flying over the strait all the time and nobody is

818
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 21: shot at it. Despite what Eric mentioned that the head

819
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Speaker 21: of the IRGC, with their down echelon command structure, ordered

820
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Speaker 21: their down echelon commanders to make war and make as

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Speaker 21: much as you can. That order was given four weeks ago.

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Speaker 21: So where are the results of those orders? If that's

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Speaker 21: all they can produce, then I'm trying to get across

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Speaker 21: that maybe the Iranians are hurting more than we're appreciating,

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Speaker 21: and that the fact that they get off a missile

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Speaker 21: here and there does not mean are controlling the tempo

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Speaker 21: or the timing or this operation.

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Speaker 6: That's not my point. They're not in control of this.

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Speaker 21: We are, and we have to be able to appreciate

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Speaker 21: what the cumulative effect of eleven thousand targets being struck

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Speaker 21: and many many more to be struck are having on

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Speaker 21: that regime, especially after you take out layers and layers

833
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Speaker 21: and layers of leaders, and their ability to communicate. If

834
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Speaker 21: their Russians are the Chinese are providing the Iranians with

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Speaker 21: such exquisite and is the financial times reported real time targeting,

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Speaker 21: then where are the results of that real time targeting

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Speaker 21: combined with the orders to make war and do as

838
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Speaker 21: much as you can. The rhetoric is not matching the

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Speaker 21: Iranians output, while our output is being underappreciated.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not saying we're winning.

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Speaker 21: I'm not saying anything else, and I'm not giving you

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Speaker 21: a body count. I'm just saying that it's not as

843
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Speaker 21: bad as the world's media is portraying. And I think

844
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Speaker 21: we should be patient and continue to do what we're

845
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Speaker 21: doing and stay on the plan, and let the flack

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Speaker 6: In to destroy and kill that enemy. If I was

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Speaker 6: a Ranian, I want them to know we're coming for

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Speaker 6: you and we're gonna kill you.

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Speaker 14: I don't think here's any doubt about that.

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Speaker 18: Palm Sunday would be a very short commercial break.

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Speaker 14: Doctor Fair is going to jump in here.

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Speaker 18: We've got Jack Mesobac, Ben Harnwell, maybe even Brandred Wiper.

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Speaker 18: All of it today on a Sunday Palm Sunday.

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Speaker 13: You know you still need help from the boss. You

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Speaker 13: need help from the boss