WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Josh Hammer 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.977 You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure 0:00:14.977 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:18.017 --> 0:00:19.737 wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:20.657 --> 0:00:22.897 Everybody, welcome to a special Buck Brief. We're joined by 0:00:22.897 --> 0:00:25.417 my friend Josh Hammer. He's the senior editor at large 0:00:25.457 --> 0:00:29.377 at Newsweek. Also you can listen to the Josh Hammer podcast. 0:00:29.497 --> 0:00:30.417 Appreciate you being with me. 0:00:30.417 --> 0:00:33.217 Josh anytime, Bob, thanks for having me. 0:00:34.377 --> 0:00:36.177 Can we just start with him? And what are your 0:00:36.257 --> 0:00:40.857 thoughts as to where the conflict right now with Israel 0:00:41.137 --> 0:00:45.337 and Hamas stands? What are the primary you know, what's 0:00:45.617 --> 0:00:47.897 top of mind for you as we're getting ready for 0:00:47.937 --> 0:00:50.977 this ground invasion to likely happen, and you know the 0:00:51.057 --> 0:00:53.897 US response. Just walk me through. What do you think 0:00:53.977 --> 0:00:54.777 is most pertinent? 0:00:55.177 --> 0:00:57.177 Well, I think what's most pertinent is the fact that 0:00:57.217 --> 0:01:00.537 this thing already feels ridiculously overheated all around the world 0:01:00.617 --> 0:01:03.937 on the domestic front, all the vile you hatred we're 0:01:03.937 --> 0:01:08.017 seeing on college campuses, the Prohamas rallies, disgusting stuff, and 0:01:08.257 --> 0:01:10.937 it really hasn't even started yet. And the IDF has 0:01:10.977 --> 0:01:14.257 been involved in bombing targets inside Gaza where Harmas is 0:01:14.297 --> 0:01:16.897 storing cakes of weaponry and missiles and all of that, 0:01:17.457 --> 0:01:19.937 But the ground invasion hasn't start yet. This thing is 0:01:20.057 --> 0:01:22.297 very far from over. And the million dollar question Buck 0:01:22.337 --> 0:01:24.377 and I suspect one of the numerous reasons that the 0:01:24.377 --> 0:01:27.057 IDF has not actually sent the tanks rolling into Gaza 0:01:27.137 --> 0:01:29.817 yet is what happens on then northern front, where you 0:01:29.897 --> 0:01:33.137 have Hesbala, which is a direct Iranian proxy, the SCHII 0:01:33.217 --> 0:01:35.977 terror militia. They have one hundred to one hundred and 0:01:36.017 --> 0:01:40.777 fifty thousand precision guided missiles, is the intelligence community's estimate 0:01:40.897 --> 0:01:43.657 of that. That's like a serious weaponry, and Hesbala has 0:01:43.697 --> 0:01:47.457 a much more sophisticated arsenal than Hamas you know, there's 0:01:47.457 --> 0:01:49.137 not much of a question to whether the IDF can 0:01:49.177 --> 0:01:52.217 handle both, but it's clearly a less than ideal situation. 0:01:52.377 --> 0:01:55.017 And then from an American perspective, obviously we have multiple 0:01:55.017 --> 0:01:58.417 aircraft carrier striker groups from the region now. They are 0:01:58.497 --> 0:02:01.857 there primarily to deter Hesbala and by extension, the Islamic 0:02:01.937 --> 0:02:05.457 Republic of Iran itself. So the real question is what 0:02:05.617 --> 0:02:09.457 if anything, would actually escalate direct American involvement at this point, 0:02:09.457 --> 0:02:11.577 because right now we know we have Jaysock. We have 0:02:11.697 --> 0:02:14.617 you know, hostage evacuation specialists there on the grounds working 0:02:14.617 --> 0:02:17.177 with the IDF. But what I'm you know, what I'm 0:02:17.177 --> 0:02:20.137 thinking about is if hes Bola starts raining down missiles 0:02:20.177 --> 0:02:23.217 into Israel, is that enough to get the US aircraft 0:02:23.217 --> 0:02:25.497 carriers involved. I'm not sure yet, but it's a very 0:02:25.537 --> 0:02:28.937 fluid situation. It's changing day by day. Personally, I just 0:02:28.977 --> 0:02:31.897 can't believe that the ground invasion has actually not actually 0:02:31.897 --> 0:02:34.137 started yet. I suspect the hostages have a lot to 0:02:34.137 --> 0:02:36.377 do with that. Thank god, we saw some more hostages 0:02:36.457 --> 0:02:39.377 released earlier today. But I suspect things are going to 0:02:39.417 --> 0:02:41.497 be very kinetic over the next thirty six to forty 0:02:41.497 --> 0:02:42.177 eight hours. 0:02:42.497 --> 0:02:45.177 What do you make of whether it's Joe Biden or 0:02:45.257 --> 0:02:47.137 you might have seen this a Barack Obama statement that 0:02:47.177 --> 0:02:53.457 he put out this constant reminding that's what they're that's 0:02:53.537 --> 0:02:56.657 even how they will say it, reminding of Israel to 0:02:56.777 --> 0:03:01.857 abide by the laws of war in this response to 0:03:01.897 --> 0:03:04.377 the worst terror attacks since nine to eleven, Like, where 0:03:04.417 --> 0:03:05.577 where is that coming from? 0:03:05.737 --> 0:03:08.297 I mean it's offensive, right, I mean if this notion 0:03:08.457 --> 0:03:10.657 and you know it's funny, Israel is the old country. 0:03:10.697 --> 0:03:12.857 I forgot who said this, But Israel's the only country 0:03:12.857 --> 0:03:16.297 that whenever they get involved in a military conflict, immediately 0:03:16.337 --> 0:03:18.977 they are told you can't actually win that military conflict. 0:03:19.177 --> 0:03:22.497 Literally as soon as Israel suffers an attack and they 0:03:22.497 --> 0:03:24.777 start to go on the counter offensive. It seems like 0:03:24.817 --> 0:03:27.017 the international community and the all the talking heads, you know, 0:03:27.057 --> 0:03:29.497 all the usual suspects in Turtle Bay, in New York 0:03:29.537 --> 0:03:32.937 and Brussels, the European Union, Geneva, like all the usual 0:03:33.057 --> 0:03:36.337 liberal globalist idiots, they immediately start talking about a quote 0:03:36.377 --> 0:03:40.897 unquote proportionate response. Oh, you know, day, are Israel possibly 0:03:40.977 --> 0:03:44.257 violate international law? Well, obviously what we refer to as 0:03:44.297 --> 0:03:46.857 international law should be abided by. But by the way 0:03:46.857 --> 0:03:49.817 international law is, it's not a very straightforward concept. It's 0:03:49.817 --> 0:03:53.337 not like there's like one legislature that codifies international law. 0:03:53.377 --> 0:03:56.217 But you know, the IDF is one of the most 0:03:56.297 --> 0:03:59.817 you know, law abiding, frankly, just above and beyond moral 0:03:59.857 --> 0:04:01.857 fighting forces in the world. I mean, the rules of 0:04:01.897 --> 0:04:04.337 engagement that the IDF has put on themselves. I mean, Buck, 0:04:04.417 --> 0:04:05.857 you know this, but you know better than most in 0:04:06.177 --> 0:04:09.257 our business. The rules of engagement that the IDEF puts 0:04:09.337 --> 0:04:13.537 on themselves Hamstring themselves are really above and beyond what 0:04:13.657 --> 0:04:16.257 virtually any other military in the world does. They literally 0:04:16.377 --> 0:04:20.897 drop leaflets from their planes to civilians in the buildings 0:04:20.937 --> 0:04:23.257 and gaza telling them we are about to bomb here, 0:04:23.377 --> 0:04:25.817 get the hell out. They don't have to do that. 0:04:25.857 --> 0:04:29.017 I mean, according to international law, those civilians there are 0:04:29.137 --> 0:04:31.897 Hamas's fault if they are going to be any civilian casualty. 0:04:32.017 --> 0:04:35.537 So it's ridiculously condescending, honestly, to get back to your 0:04:35.617 --> 0:04:39.297 question there. But unfortunately for Israel, I think it's nothing new. 0:04:39.297 --> 0:04:40.337 It's been this way for a while. 0:04:40.417 --> 0:04:44.657 Now. How do you think the Biden White House has 0:04:44.697 --> 0:04:45.777 responded so far? 0:04:46.137 --> 0:04:48.177 Well, I mean they were strong out of the gate right, 0:04:48.217 --> 0:04:51.337 I mean in those first five to six days. I mean, 0:04:51.457 --> 0:04:53.817 his rhetoric was strong. In fact, I think it was 0:04:53.857 --> 0:04:57.657 so strong that some schools in Israel started as signing 0:04:57.817 --> 0:05:00.217 Biden's speech. I think it was a week and a 0:05:00.217 --> 0:05:02.057 half ago, or so two weeks about this point. It's 0:05:02.097 --> 0:05:03.777 hard to keep track, but he had that first kind 0:05:03.777 --> 0:05:05.257 of big speech from the White House. I heard that 0:05:05.297 --> 0:05:07.777 some schools in Israel started signing that speech in English 0:05:07.857 --> 0:05:10.857 language's homework for English class because Israel were so impressed 0:05:10.857 --> 0:05:13.937 by it. Unfortunately, Buck, you know, for those of us 0:05:13.977 --> 0:05:16.337 who are a little more sober and I you know, 0:05:16.377 --> 0:05:18.977 I dare I say practical with their eyes wide open, 0:05:19.297 --> 0:05:21.577 we knew that things would start to change very quickly. 0:05:21.617 --> 0:05:23.457 And as soon as he started to fly over there, 0:05:23.497 --> 0:05:25.377 you know, the public optics of him kind of doing 0:05:25.417 --> 0:05:28.217 that big bear hug with Prime Minister nets and Yahu 0:05:28.337 --> 0:05:32.017 at Bengorian Airport. There's always strings attached to this. I mean, 0:05:32.057 --> 0:05:34.897 the United States gives Israel a lot of money, and 0:05:34.937 --> 0:05:37.257 in exchange for that, they wanted to try to hamstring 0:05:37.297 --> 0:05:39.577 the rules of engagement of the IDF and basically keep 0:05:39.617 --> 0:05:41.417 them on a short string. I mean, I think that 0:05:41.537 --> 0:05:43.497 one of the many reasons why the IDF has not 0:05:43.537 --> 0:05:47.337 gone into Gaza yet is because the US and laughably 0:05:47.417 --> 0:05:50.377 Qatar is actually serving as a hostage intermediary despite being 0:05:50.377 --> 0:05:52.937 a major funder of Hamas. I think that the US 0:05:52.977 --> 0:05:55.337 and also then Qatar are putting a lot of pressure 0:05:55.337 --> 0:05:57.577 on the IDF to not actually go into Gaza there. 0:05:57.617 --> 0:06:00.457 So it's not great. The rhetoric when it comes to 0:06:00.497 --> 0:06:02.977 Gaza has still been mostly okay, but I think it's 0:06:02.977 --> 0:06:06.537 worth noting that they've said virtually nothing about Iran. And 0:06:06.577 --> 0:06:09.537 you can't talk about Hamas without talking about Iran because 0:06:10.137 --> 0:06:13.497 Hamas has Valla. All these terrorist proxies in the region 0:06:13.657 --> 0:06:18.217 are basically just tentacles of the broader, sprawling Islamic Republic 0:06:18.257 --> 0:06:22.057 of Iran terrorist infrastructure. I've heard virtually nothing about Iran. 0:06:22.137 --> 0:06:23.857 I have no idea what the US is going to 0:06:23.897 --> 0:06:25.657 do in response this when it comes to kind of 0:06:25.657 --> 0:06:27.937 amping up the sanctions, when it comes to cracking down 0:06:27.937 --> 0:06:32.617 on terror financing, cutting off Iranian banks from Western financial institutions. 0:06:32.617 --> 0:06:34.497 Are we going to seize vessels if they're trying to 0:06:34.537 --> 0:06:36.617 ship weapons? I mean, there's all sorts of things. I 0:06:36.657 --> 0:06:40.297 haven't heard anything about that. And then Katar itself, which 0:06:40.337 --> 0:06:43.337 I mentioned is a major funder of Hamas. Qatar Buck 0:06:43.457 --> 0:06:46.257 was designated by the US as a major non NATO 0:06:46.457 --> 0:06:50.377 ally just last year. And like I saw, Anthony Blincoln 0:06:50.497 --> 0:06:52.977 was there meeting with the emir in Doha like a 0:06:52.977 --> 0:06:54.737 week and a half ago. I mean, like, what the hell. 0:06:54.857 --> 0:06:57.337 So the rhetoric is okay when it comes to Gaza, 0:06:57.377 --> 0:06:59.937 but as far as the whole region is concerned, I 0:06:59.977 --> 0:07:02.257 see very little reason for optimism. 0:07:03.057 --> 0:07:05.337 Josh want to come back and ask what you think 0:07:05.977 --> 0:07:10.857 happens if Israel's war in Gaza is successful, which is 0:07:10.897 --> 0:07:12.977 a in which I assume it will be. But it's 0:07:13.057 --> 0:07:15.817 essentially the what next, right, what comes next? I want 0:07:15.817 --> 0:07:18.537 to get into that with you here. But first off, 0:07:18.537 --> 0:07:21.017 from our sponsor, My Pillow. 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But effectively, if Israel goes in 0:08:22.017 --> 0:08:24.777 and does what I believe it should do and is 0:08:24.817 --> 0:08:27.937 trying to do, which is destroy Hamas as a terrorist 0:08:28.057 --> 0:08:32.737 entity operating in Gaza, what happens? Who's in charge of Gaza? 0:08:32.937 --> 0:08:36.057 What do you think the Israeli end state is going 0:08:36.097 --> 0:08:36.337 to be? 0:08:36.817 --> 0:08:38.617 So this is the million dollar question, Buck. I mean, 0:08:38.697 --> 0:08:40.137 you know, on my own show, I had a guest 0:08:40.137 --> 0:08:42.577 signer alert today, I actually asked him this very question. 0:08:42.657 --> 0:08:44.137 I mean, I don't think anyone knows. I mean, I 0:08:44.137 --> 0:08:45.977 hate to say it like that, but I don't think 0:08:45.977 --> 0:08:49.097 anyone has a crystal clear idea as to what the 0:08:49.097 --> 0:08:50.977 next stage is be. What is very clear to me 0:08:51.017 --> 0:08:53.697 at least, is that the Arabs living there cannot be 0:08:53.777 --> 0:08:56.417 permitted to simply go back to the polls. And you know, 0:08:56.497 --> 0:08:58.977 not that these are free and fair elections, obviously, but 0:08:59.017 --> 0:09:01.857 they cannot be permitted to go back and democratically vote 0:09:01.897 --> 0:09:04.737 to elect a party or a group because Hamas was 0:09:04.737 --> 0:09:07.657 democratically elected. In fact, you know, it's it's fairly well 0:09:07.777 --> 0:09:09.977 known that one of the reasons that the IDF has 0:09:10.057 --> 0:09:12.737 equivocated for so many years and has not actually gone 0:09:12.777 --> 0:09:15.657 into eradicate Hamas is that they fear, and this is 0:09:15.657 --> 0:09:17.657 a crazy thing to say, but it's true, they fear 0:09:17.737 --> 0:09:20.137 that if they eradicate Hamas and then let the people 0:09:20.177 --> 0:09:23.337 of Gaza just elect someone else, something worse than Hamas 0:09:23.337 --> 0:09:24.777 will come into place. So I'm not making that up. 0:09:24.817 --> 0:09:27.977 That is seriously a major concern, or has been in 0:09:27.977 --> 0:09:30.577 the past, i should say, of the Israeli security brass 0:09:30.937 --> 0:09:34.337 and the intelligence apparatus. So you know, let's say Hamas 0:09:34.417 --> 0:09:39.257 is cleared, and at that point, if the Israeli security 0:09:39.377 --> 0:09:41.497 establishment agrees with what I said that you can't have 0:09:41.617 --> 0:09:45.017 elections there, my preference would be some sort of either 0:09:45.097 --> 0:09:48.857 annexation or military occupation. Now it's worth pointing out this 0:09:48.937 --> 0:09:51.537 is where the Biden situations is already a major pot 0:09:51.577 --> 0:09:54.857 because Biden has explicitly told Netanyahu not to do that. 0:09:54.897 --> 0:09:57.537 He's explicitly said, do not annex it back into Israel, 0:09:57.617 --> 0:09:59.817 do not reoccupy it, do not do any of this. 0:10:00.497 --> 0:10:03.177 I frankly failed to see what the alternative is. I mean, 0:10:03.697 --> 0:10:06.137 from my perspective, I think Gaza at this point after 0:10:06.177 --> 0:10:09.377 this should look similar ish to the situation in the 0:10:09.417 --> 0:10:12.417 West Bank day in Samaria, where you can have kind 0:10:12.457 --> 0:10:15.577 of a less than fully sovereign government. I mean, the 0:10:15.577 --> 0:10:18.457 Palestinian authority in Ramala is not fully sovereign. The IDEF 0:10:18.497 --> 0:10:21.017 still controls the borders there in the Jordan River valley 0:10:21.057 --> 0:10:24.497 and so forth there. Ideally, if they could install some 0:10:24.537 --> 0:10:27.577 sort of Arab Zionist sort of puppet regime of sorts, 0:10:27.617 --> 0:10:31.177 that would be ideal. But there's I'm kind of short 0:10:31.177 --> 0:10:33.457 of ideas other than that. What I do know for 0:10:33.577 --> 0:10:37.017 certain is that the people of Gaza cannot be permitted 0:10:37.017 --> 0:10:38.937 to simply just go back to the polls, because we're 0:10:38.937 --> 0:10:40.777 gonna have the whole situation all over again. 0:10:41.297 --> 0:10:45.177 If Israel puts enough pressure on Hamas, do you think 0:10:45.177 --> 0:10:47.977 Iran could end up entering this conflict in a more 0:10:49.297 --> 0:10:51.337 effectively as a direct combatant in some way. 0:10:51.857 --> 0:10:56.137 It's a terror, it's a terrifying proposition. Obviously, I think 0:10:56.177 --> 0:10:59.457 they probably will not do so as a direct entity 0:10:59.617 --> 0:11:02.457 for two reasons. One is that they have so many 0:11:02.657 --> 0:11:07.137 sprawling proxies throughout the region. Both Hamas has Bulah up north, 0:11:07.177 --> 0:11:10.657 there are all sorts of Iranian proxies operating in Araq. 0:11:10.737 --> 0:11:13.577 They basically filled the vacuum after the US watched the 0:11:14.257 --> 0:11:16.497 Iraq War and then botched the withdrawal from that. So 0:11:16.857 --> 0:11:20.017 a Rock at this point is essentially an Iranian satropy. 0:11:20.057 --> 0:11:22.897 I mean, it's essentially kind of an Iranian province. And 0:11:22.897 --> 0:11:25.257 then Bashar al Asad himself in Syria is basically an 0:11:25.297 --> 0:11:27.097 Iranian client state. And then you of course have the 0:11:27.137 --> 0:11:29.817 Huthi rebels there in Yemen on the southern tip of 0:11:29.817 --> 0:11:32.457 the Arabian Peninsula that are also, yes, you guessed, did 0:11:32.497 --> 0:11:36.257 an Iranian proxy. So I mean they have proxies everywhere. 0:11:36.297 --> 0:11:38.337 So I don't think that you're going to start seeing 0:11:38.417 --> 0:11:42.977 missiles directed towards Gaizo or Jerusalem from Tehran. I would 0:11:43.017 --> 0:11:45.737 be a little surprised if that were the case. And 0:11:45.897 --> 0:11:48.297 especially you have to consider then that there are multiple 0:11:48.337 --> 0:11:51.537 aircraft carrier striker groups from the United States right there, 0:11:51.617 --> 0:11:54.097 and you know, I mean, here's the thing is Iran 0:11:54.217 --> 0:11:56.497 like a cold, calculating, rational actor. 0:11:56.617 --> 0:11:56.777 No. 0:11:56.817 --> 0:11:59.057 I mean they subscribe to kind of a you know, 0:11:59.337 --> 0:12:02.337 a zealous kind of seventy two Virgins in Heaven kind 0:12:02.457 --> 0:12:05.297 of theocratic mentality, as do a lot of these Hamas 0:12:05.297 --> 0:12:08.377 has Bowl actors as well. But at a certain point, 0:12:08.457 --> 0:12:11.177 are they rational enough where they know that the aircraft 0:12:11.177 --> 0:12:13.657 carriers in the US will just flat in Tehran if 0:12:13.697 --> 0:12:16.777 they literally start trying to nuke Jerusalem. I mean, I 0:12:16.857 --> 0:12:20.457 kind of presume they're that rational. I could be wrong, obviously. 0:12:20.737 --> 0:12:23.377 I pray that I'm right, though, because that would be 0:12:23.377 --> 0:12:25.817 a truly terrible conflict if they do get involved directly. 0:12:25.977 --> 0:12:28.297 Let's talk more about some of the response we've seen 0:12:28.377 --> 0:12:30.817 here and in the rest of the West, Josh to 0:12:31.377 --> 0:12:33.137 this whole situation. We'll get into that in a second. 0:12:33.137 --> 0:12:35.297 But need energy to get through your busy day? Get 0:12:35.297 --> 0:12:37.737 yourself set up with Chalks Mail Vitality Stack. 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What do you make of that? 0:13:50.697 --> 0:13:53.417 Is this just it was always there and people didn't 0:13:53.417 --> 0:13:55.897 want to believe it, or have we entered a new 0:13:56.097 --> 0:14:01.977 era of almost the mainstreaming of anti Semitism as part 0:14:01.977 --> 0:14:03.617 of the hard left, Like, how did we get to 0:14:03.657 --> 0:14:04.217 this place? 0:14:04.657 --> 0:14:05.897 You know, I'm not sure that it was kind of 0:14:05.897 --> 0:14:08.257 like a singular kind of on off flipping of the 0:14:08.377 --> 0:14:12.177 light switch. It's really just been a a gradual, gradual descent. 0:14:12.497 --> 0:14:14.737 And you know, the left book from my perspective, started 0:14:14.937 --> 0:14:17.537 to turn on Israel as far back as the nineteen 0:14:17.617 --> 0:14:20.817 sixty seven war, which was the Sixth Day War. It 0:14:20.857 --> 0:14:24.817 was Israel's first war victory after their independence war, which 0:14:24.817 --> 0:14:26.897 by the way, all these wars were defensive. Israel has 0:14:26.897 --> 0:14:29.257 never started a war in its entire history. But after 0:14:29.297 --> 0:14:32.257 the sixty seven war, when Israel miraculously defeated the Egyptians, 0:14:32.257 --> 0:14:34.817 the Syrians, all the invading armies, I think that was 0:14:34.857 --> 0:14:37.777 when this image of Israel is kind of Goliath versus 0:14:37.857 --> 0:14:40.297 the Arabs who were David start to kind of sink 0:14:40.377 --> 0:14:43.137 into the leftist mentality. And then you have kind of 0:14:43.137 --> 0:14:45.777 the decades long rise which folks like Chris Ruffo have 0:14:45.897 --> 0:14:47.977 been working on of kind of critical theory and the 0:14:48.017 --> 0:14:53.257 academy and this intersectional identity politics mentality and this narrative 0:14:53.257 --> 0:14:55.417 has taken place where Israel is kind of the white 0:14:55.457 --> 0:14:58.937 European colonizer, and the Arabs are kind of the colored people. 0:14:59.097 --> 0:15:01.777 And in today's kind of intersectional Olympics, we all know 0:15:02.297 --> 0:15:05.337 that anyone who is white is automatically on the bottom. 0:15:05.617 --> 0:15:07.617 By the way, taken even on its own terms, that 0:15:07.697 --> 0:15:10.377 narrative is complete a utter bs. First of all, Israel 0:15:10.497 --> 0:15:13.897 is actually not majority white. Most Jews living in Israel 0:15:13.937 --> 0:15:16.377 actually are not of European descent. They're actually from the 0:15:16.417 --> 0:15:20.337 Arab countries, countries like Yemen, Iraq, Morocco, Egypt, you name it. 0:15:20.377 --> 0:15:23.097 Second of all, the notion that Israel as a colonizer 0:15:23.217 --> 0:15:25.217 is laughable on its face. I mean, if you really 0:15:25.257 --> 0:15:27.577 want to play that game. Obviously, the Jews by definition 0:15:27.657 --> 0:15:30.057 are the indigenous people of Judea. I mean, that's literally 0:15:30.057 --> 0:15:32.657 where the word Jew comes from. But that's really where 0:15:32.657 --> 0:15:35.657 it started. This got a lot worse, a lot worse 0:15:35.737 --> 0:15:38.737 during the Barack Obama presidency. The Biden presidency, which is 0:15:38.777 --> 0:15:41.657 essentially just the third term of the Barack Obama presidency, 0:15:41.657 --> 0:15:43.777 allow of the same idiots who were in charge then 0:15:43.857 --> 0:15:44.897 are in charge once again. 0:15:44.937 --> 0:15:45.217 There. 0:15:45.497 --> 0:15:47.697 It's just gotten worse and worse. I remember the twenty 0:15:47.777 --> 0:15:50.617 fourteen Israel Hamas conflict. It was already pretty bad. This 0:15:50.697 --> 0:15:53.377 is clearly the worst it has ever been there. Any 0:15:53.417 --> 0:15:56.577 Semitism at this point has spread like wildfire to the 0:15:56.577 --> 0:16:00.777 point of ubiquity throughout the American Academy. Finally, you see 0:16:00.817 --> 0:16:03.097 some people who are not even naturally on the right 0:16:03.137 --> 0:16:05.537 starting to speak up. I mean folks like like Bill Ackman, 0:16:05.577 --> 0:16:08.577 the Hedge funder, and Griffin, I mean any number of 0:16:08.617 --> 0:16:10.617 others who are basically saying I will not hire these 0:16:10.617 --> 0:16:13.777 idiots who are signing on to these statements. Hopefully more 0:16:13.937 --> 0:16:16.217 is done at this point, because from my perspective, the 0:16:16.217 --> 0:16:18.137 only possible way to get back from this is to 0:16:18.177 --> 0:16:20.937 apply market pressure is to basically say, I will not 0:16:21.137 --> 0:16:23.057 donate to these schools, I will not send my kids 0:16:23.097 --> 0:16:25.937 to these schools. I will not hire students from these schools. 0:16:26.337 --> 0:16:28.057 The Wall Street Journal had a very interesting op ed 0:16:28.097 --> 0:16:29.657 maybe a week and a half two weeks ago by 0:16:29.657 --> 0:16:31.897 a law professor at cal Berkeley, where the title of 0:16:31.897 --> 0:16:34.697 his op ed was, don't hire my anti Semitic law 0:16:34.697 --> 0:16:38.417 students like these own students. That's the right mentality, right, 0:16:38.657 --> 0:16:40.097 That's kind of what we have to do from here. 0:16:40.137 --> 0:16:43.777 I think, Gosh, I want to come back and ask 0:16:43.817 --> 0:16:47.657 you just what you think needs to happen here going 0:16:47.657 --> 0:16:50.217 forward in just one second. But word from our sponsor. 0:16:51.897 --> 0:16:56.017 You ever gone to Belize. Look, Belize is an incredible country, 0:16:56.017 --> 0:16:57.497 and it's one that more and more people are talking 0:16:57.497 --> 0:16:59.937 about these days. 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Josha, Sorry, 0:17:40.537 --> 0:17:43.577 it's it's such you know, it's such such heavy stuff 0:17:43.577 --> 0:17:47.417 and it has been for weeks here. But I mean, 0:17:47.577 --> 0:17:51.617 I I'm optimistic that Israel will accomplish its mission. With 0:17:51.657 --> 0:17:55.217 regard to Hamas and Gaza, I also think it's unlikely 0:17:55.257 --> 0:17:58.657 the war will get much broader. I mean, what what 0:17:58.857 --> 0:18:04.297 gives you? What? What optimism do you find yourself searching 0:18:04.337 --> 0:18:05.137 for these days? 0:18:05.777 --> 0:18:11.017 So the Western powers more broadly have thus far, officially speaking, 0:18:11.137 --> 0:18:12.737 been pretty good on this. I mean not if we're 0:18:12.777 --> 0:18:15.337 including Canada, and Justin Trudeau's a power because he's a 0:18:15.457 --> 0:18:17.897 total commune, has put out some garbage on this, but 0:18:18.137 --> 0:18:20.737 you know, holding Canada aside, the United States, you know, 0:18:20.777 --> 0:18:24.977 the great European powers, you know, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, 0:18:25.537 --> 0:18:28.537 they've all been pretty good so far, and that seems 0:18:28.577 --> 0:18:31.937 to be fairly steady for now. Again, the question when 0:18:31.977 --> 0:18:33.977 it comes to Israel is always for now, because Hamas 0:18:34.017 --> 0:18:36.377 is the most cynical terrorist organization of all time. They 0:18:36.417 --> 0:18:39.257 literally use their own people as human shields to try 0:18:39.257 --> 0:18:42.017 to gin up PR favor. You have all the useful 0:18:42.017 --> 0:18:44.217 idiots at the New York Times we saw last week 0:18:44.257 --> 0:18:47.217 with this disgusting blood libel at the hospital in Gaza. 0:18:47.337 --> 0:18:50.497 So they have this PR strategy orchestrated. But for now, 0:18:50.617 --> 0:18:55.337 for now, the Western power sentiment is holding steady ish 0:18:55.737 --> 0:18:57.857 and I think it's holding steady ish for a very 0:18:57.897 --> 0:19:00.377 simple reason, Buck, which is this was the worst massacre 0:19:00.377 --> 0:19:02.457 of Jews since the Holocaust. I mean, this was a 0:19:02.577 --> 0:19:05.617 day that will forever live in infamy, really not just 0:19:05.697 --> 0:19:07.777 for the state of Israel, but in the mentality and 0:19:07.777 --> 0:19:10.257 the broader mindset of the Jewish people. I mean, really, 0:19:10.257 --> 0:19:11.897 aren't the many Jews in the world, Most of us 0:19:11.937 --> 0:19:15.537 know someone or people who were directly impacted by this tragedy. 0:19:15.577 --> 0:19:17.817 And you know, each day that we go without a 0:19:17.897 --> 0:19:20.777 land invasion, I do worry that the IDF you know, 0:19:21.057 --> 0:19:23.577 is risking kind of public favorite turning against them because 0:19:23.617 --> 0:19:25.897 the memory is a little less fresh. But this was 0:19:26.017 --> 0:19:28.537 so bad, This was so bad what happened. And I 0:19:28.577 --> 0:19:32.217 think Israelis across the entire spectrum from left to right, 0:19:32.337 --> 0:19:34.617 are so unified and what has to be done here, 0:19:34.937 --> 0:19:37.097