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Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: Whoa mate, are you good? I think I catch your breath.

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Speaker 5: Police officers out here with.

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Speaker 6: Man, I made it.

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Speaker 5: And I'll I'll keep you at the police station.

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Speaker 3: As always, I am met the desk with a Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl champion. Everson Wallas is here, Mickey spec Nola is here,

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Speaker 3: and of the fellas, let me put my glasses on.

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Speaker 5: That's okay, man, take the time. Brod in hell exhale.

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Speaker 4: I had a friend in Coppel.

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Speaker 7: He got stopped and he left his wallet at home.

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Speaker 7: Oh they took him straight to the station and put.

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Speaker 2: Him in jail.

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Speaker 7: Unbelievable, man, They weren't giving them any grace.

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Speaker 3: I'm usually sitting in here waiting on you guys, and

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Speaker 3: then this morning, man, I run never mind. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know what, let's get this thing. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to tell my excuses. Let's just all keep it. I

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Speaker 3: know that's right, but let's start this thing off right, Man, Brothers,

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Speaker 3: how are y'all today?

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Speaker 2: Everson? How are you how your mentals?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 6: My mentors are good. I just got people in my house.

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Speaker 6: They're fixing up my bathroom. We had a little incident there.

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Speaker 6: Still you are no, no, no, they're fixing up win

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Speaker 6: the process of it's still going. You gotta do the

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Speaker 6: floor in the bedroom first. Now, yeah it was bad,

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Speaker 6: but it wasn't bad enough to what the insurance we covered.

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Speaker 6: So next time I'm going to dinner, I'm on the dinner.

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Speaker 6: The next time I get some type of leak or something,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna just let it all just mess up.

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Speaker 7: That's both of us have experienced, right. You just need

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Speaker 7: something to get destroyed.

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Speaker 6: That's it. And so now it's it's other than that. Man,

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Speaker 6: I got my birthday own. Baby, I'm represent I'm trying

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Speaker 6: to go to the game tomorrow. You gotta get them,

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Speaker 6: get to give me a ticket.

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Speaker 4: Oh good, I don't have a fighting farmer's shirt. But

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go tonight if I get my work done.

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Speaker 3: Going to is a Lowisville. That should be That should

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Speaker 3: be a really good game. A lot of fire star

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Speaker 3: athletes all over the place on that field. Mickey, how

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Speaker 3: are you today?

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Speaker 4: So I'm good, I'm good. I was somewhat shocked.

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Speaker 7: So today in the in the morning news they had

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Speaker 7: the list. I guess yesterday was signing day for all.

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Speaker 4: The other sports.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't believe how many female volleyball players signed for scholarships. Yes,

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Speaker 7: there must have been over one hundred. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: If you have a girl, get her to play volleyball.

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Speaker 7: They're handing out scholars What about you?

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Speaker 5: Heck you you have many kids play volleyball.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, no, no, no, no to my kids. The

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Speaker 3: only one got the athletic bug in my family is

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Speaker 3: my son. The rest of them they got their mother's feet.

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Speaker 7: So you know. I used to say, back back in

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Speaker 7: the days, like the sixties, seventies and eighties, that the

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Speaker 7: Russians had the right idea. They made sure they're athletes

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Speaker 7: married and had kids, because you got all those athletic genes.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the gems will get multiply, right. I did

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Speaker 5: They got some good look all that athletic that look

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Speaker 6: They look good, But I wouldn't say that I think

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, man, I call college volleyball as well as

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Speaker 3: you name it, but it is. I interviewed just yesterday

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Speaker 6: They have any issues with volleyball versus basketball?

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Speaker 5: What do you mean in regards to to.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you have an exceptional volleyball player

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Speaker 3: obviously you're on the radar a ton of good schools,

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Speaker 3: about volleyball, Olympic type stuff exactly. And so when you're

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Speaker 3: they don't cross over basically competing like dual You know,

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Speaker 3: you may have those dual sport athletes, but nah, if

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Speaker 2: School like that.

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Speaker 6: I'm old now and I can't remember my classmate's name,

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Speaker 5: I can't remember her.

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Speaker 6: I was in the class with her sister when we

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Speaker 4: What sport volleyball she made?

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Speaker 6: She made the Olympics and volleyball. She went to Texas Tech.

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Speaker 6: If Bill was here, he checked out. She went to

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Speaker 6: and I will find that out.

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Speaker 7: Before this, there was a couple there was another category

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Speaker 7: for scholarships beach volleyball.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's more fun, especially, that's right, that's more fun.

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Speaker 3: So y'all won't talk about some football? Yeah, why not

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Speaker 3: talk about some football? What you got over there in

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Speaker 3: red pen, I'm sure you could have found I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you could have found a pin right now, I'm.

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Speaker 7: Just gonna wear it out right when it's done, I'll

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Speaker 7: go back to blue.

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Speaker 5: Okay, because it's it looks alarming from here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like it looks if you are angry.

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Speaker 5: It looks as if you have a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of angry just right.

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Speaker 7: These were from These were from I think Jerry's radio interview.

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Speaker 4: These are more current.

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Speaker 7: And you know, we got to listen to Brian Schottenheimer yesterday.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I heard some of that on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: He was still very solemn, but.

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Speaker 7: Very revealing as he has been good, bad, whatever, And

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Speaker 7: I thought the the key thing and it has to

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Speaker 7: happen today. He said something to the effect, we're not

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Speaker 7: going to forget, but we got to move forward. And

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Speaker 7: I think that's sort of.

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Speaker 5: What's got to do, he said.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 6: He said, yeah, he was thinking, Oh, we're not moving on,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I believe that's what said. I think that's

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, you got it. You gotta you know, you

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Speaker 5: have to keep.

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Speaker 4: Keep bad as things are.

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Speaker 5: This is a capitalist society. We got work to do.

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Speaker 6: I mean, unfortunately, just the way it goes, I think,

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 4: We don't move on.

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Speaker 5: We move forward. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you have to.

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Speaker 7: I mean, things don't stop, and you've got to play,

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Speaker 7: and you know they don't give you a bereavement leave

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. So yeah, today will be the first

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Speaker 7: Monday night, right, So it'll be interesting to see the

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Speaker 7: You know, they're gonna have the coaching staff is gonna

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Speaker 4: Hey, you got to play a game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and practice today has to be good. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it has to be good.

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Speaker 4: And you know it's unfortunately.

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Speaker 7: They'll feel for you, but they're not going to feel

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Speaker 4: So uh, it's.

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Speaker 7: A it's a tough turnaround, but you got to make it.

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Speaker 7: And I was thinking, you, guys, tell me the last

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Speaker 7: I thought he made a good point about it. It's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he did point out that most of those

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Speaker 3: want to give kudos to the organization the way that

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Speaker 3: under the circumstances, you don't know how guys are handling it,

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Speaker 3: and what isn't for the outside media to dictate that

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Speaker 3: There hadn't been a bunch of access as far as

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Speaker 3: they didn't do a job for you, mickey, but as

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Speaker 7: But they've done the right So today will be the

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Speaker 7: first day of player access. But from my understanding, and

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Speaker 7: and just kind of control.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 7: The TV cameras are going to be in there, They're

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Speaker 7: going to be focusing on an empty locker. They're gonna,

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Speaker 7: thing with Schottenheimer talking yesterday, you know, and he handled

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Speaker 7: it well. He opened it up with the opening statement

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Speaker 7: you think about overshowings? You know, playing his first Game

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to be the

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Speaker 6: That asked the stupid question, right, Yeah, I wouldn't want

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Speaker 6: You know, it's so different these days when I love it,

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Speaker 5: That's showing right now.

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Speaker 6: And that's just the way. It was not just this

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Speaker 6: You know, sports really didn't didn't give that much to

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Speaker 7: Well, and as the opposite way, just think if there

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Speaker 6: And you kind of give it the wild wild West

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Speaker 4: You want a Super Bowl, Laura, I mean, come on.

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Speaker 6: It was so many people that was kind of involved,

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Speaker 5: So no, that's those old days.

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Speaker 3: gonna stop. We're gonna take a left turn right now,

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Speaker 3: because you know, speaking of old school, and he's a

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Speaker 3: But one thing that is abundantly clear about Pete Carroll

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you.

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Speaker 3: This is I look at this as a trap not

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Speaker 3: How do you feel after evaluating the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 6: No, I hadn't value evaluated them much, but the last

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Speaker 6: Watching the way Gino was was able to move in

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Speaker 6: of it for the most part last week. But uh,

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Speaker 6: Seems like they're trying to get it together starting on

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Speaker 5: That's the way I look at this game.

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Speaker 6: That's the way I think the Cowboys are going into

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Speaker 3: Mickey anything eyebrow raising to you them holding Denver to ten.

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Speaker 7: Which was, if you're going to put in perspective, thirty

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Speaker 7: four fewer points than the Cowboys game. I'm playing Denver

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Speaker 7: thirty four. But again they're struggling to score. They've lost

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Speaker 7: you know, what is it three straight now and in

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Speaker 7: But you're right when I remember his teams from Seattle, Uh,

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Speaker 4: And I thought that was his calling card.

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Speaker 7: Now I don't know if that was the type of

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Speaker 4: But you know, the old legion.

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Speaker 6: Of if you have the legion of doom, then yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure that's what he wants to do there.

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Speaker 7: But you know, reading some of the stuff in the paper,

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Speaker 7: are you playing for next year? And oh, don't ask

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Speaker 7: a coach that, right, because they're playing for today, right,

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Speaker 7: no matter what. Because they were talking about how they

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Speaker 4: Uh, and it's like, no, we're playing to win.

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Speaker 5: They have a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 4: They they're going to.

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Speaker 7: Be without both of their starting guards.

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Speaker 4: So that's right from the start.

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Speaker 7: We talked a little bit yesterday about Jackson Powers. Johnson

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna We're gonna test our boys.

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Speaker 4: Out see if they see how the winning go q

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Speaker 5: Hit the ground running.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, So you talk about physicality, That's why that's where

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Speaker 3: I'm looking. I'm looking at the matchup in the trenches

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Speaker 3: Ashton gent I believe five hundred or so yards on

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Speaker 2: That finds a way to fall forward.

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Speaker 3: And that's the only thing about him as a running

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Speaker 6: But most of those guys were huge, and that's what

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Speaker 5: In the day.

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Speaker 6: Now you have the small more more, you know, nifty

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Speaker 6: far as I'm saying, this offensive line is going to

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Speaker 6: forward to that. I'm looking forward to us controlling the

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Speaker 6: know it's just the first game for these guys to

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Speaker 7: I don't think you should expect anything different than Quinn

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Speaker 4: Williams Lloyds Wilson playing like Logan.

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Speaker 7: These guys aren't new to this, right, That's right, And

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Speaker 4: But having said that.

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Speaker 3: So what, yeah, Mickey, if you just said. If you

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Speaker 3: I would just ran out of it. I thought that's

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Speaker 3: about Gavonte Williams, who is projected to have a thirteen

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Speaker 3: hundred yard season. But the Cowboys offense either defenses has

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Speaker 3: figured out something about this running game offensive line, as

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton is talking about when he sat in with us.

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Speaker 3: But something's happened to the running game. It isn't quite

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Speaker 3: as effective as it was as the season started. So

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Speaker 3: in this game versus the Las Vegas Raiders, what are

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Speaker 3: your expectations from the running game ever since?

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Speaker 6: But as far as our running game is concerned. I

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Speaker 6: don't know much about the Raiders defense at all, but

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Speaker 6: what I know is what we need to do as

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Speaker 6: a team, And I think we need to start worrying

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Speaker 6: about what the other team has and start worrying about

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Speaker 6: what we do as our philosophy. Stick to our philosophy

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Speaker 6: of running the ball. I think we still need to

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Speaker 6: be a run team first. Well like that, it makes

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Speaker 6: things so much comfortable for our passing game. We complimented well,

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Speaker 6: but you can see when we don't run the ball well,

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Speaker 6: we don't pass the ball well. That's just the way

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Speaker 6: it is, not well enough to win a ball game.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not worried about numbers with offense. I'm worried

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Speaker 6: about winning with the entire team itself.

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Speaker 7: Well, to expand on your point about Williams being thirteen

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Speaker 7: hundred yards at one point, he was on pace for

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Speaker 7: fifteen hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's coming down.

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Speaker 4: How much it's.

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Speaker 7: Come down, And I think the offensive line there's nothing

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Speaker 7: wrong with him.

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Speaker 4: They've got to play better.

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Speaker 7: Yes, And if you look at what the Raiders you mentioned,

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Speaker 7: what they did, what they've done so far defensively, they

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Speaker 7: gave up forty one points to the Commanders, forty points

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Speaker 7: to the Colts, thirty one to the Chiefs when they

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Speaker 7: got shut out, thirty to Jacksonville, and then go figure

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Speaker 7: ten to Denver in one. So all those other games

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Speaker 7: obviously they lost. And my guys on the fan threw

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Speaker 7: out a stat today that the Raiders have gone twenty

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Speaker 7: nine straight games without scoring.

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Speaker 4: More than thirty or scoring thirty points or more.

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Speaker 7: And I went back and looked and it's basically twice

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Speaker 7: in forty three games that they've scored more than thirty points.

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Speaker 7: And one time it was sixty three against the Chargers

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty three, so that was the last time

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Speaker 7: they had scored more than thirty points. So they haven't

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Speaker 7: been that productive offensively. They did score twenty nine against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 7: I think that was an overtime loss. They got beat

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Speaker 7: thirty to twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: That was recent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was two games ago.

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Speaker 6: That's when I saw Geno running around back there acting

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Speaker 6: like he was MVP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a tendency to do that for the time.

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Speaker 3: He'll put a cape on for one game, one night only,

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00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: and he'll turn back Wilson, you know for sure. And

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Speaker 3: the challenge for me offenseive for this offensive line is

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Speaker 3: opening up those holes in the A and B gap

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Speaker 3: because we've seen Javonte Man when he is effective coming

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Speaker 3: downhill on the linebackers safeties, they.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to see this guy.

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Speaker 3: Something changed, though, And I know it's been kind of

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Speaker 3: a musical chairs at the offensive line position. And I

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Speaker 3: even heard had heard an interview with the offensive line

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Speaker 3: coach talking about that there is competition on the offensive

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Speaker 3: line with with Terrence Steele. Well got me to thinking,

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Speaker 3: with Nate Thomas and Terrence Steele, if you're going to

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Speaker 3: do a rotation for those two guys, this may be

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Speaker 3: the wrong game to try that in because of Matt Max.

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Speaker 7: Crosby, Well, he may dictate if not a rotation, if

552
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 7: you have to make a change, this.

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Speaker 4: Is we can't put up with this.

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Speaker 7: You've got to play well and and you know, don't

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Speaker 7: give Geyton a pass either. He needs to improve. Also,

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Speaker 7: both tackles need to improve. I think the tough thing

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Speaker 7: is and and maybe the buy has helped. But Tyler Smith,

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Speaker 7: your best offensive lineman playing through I believe it's a.

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Speaker 4: Knee thing there is.

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Speaker 7: You know, he had been limited in practice for the

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Speaker 7: previous two games and he's he's trying to muscle up

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Speaker 7: and hang in there. I'm doing this for the team.

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Speaker 7: But I don't think he's fully.

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Speaker 2: He is he. I mean, he just doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: Tyler Smith. He doesn't look like him. I think.

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Speaker 7: I think Nate pointed out that, you know, on the

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Speaker 7: offensive line, when you're doing have something, you can go

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Speaker 7: two plays with yourself, right, and then the third play

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Speaker 7: it's like, oh what.

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Speaker 5: You might get? He might get blasted. Yeah, you might

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Speaker 5: get blasted.

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Speaker 7: And so that's that point that's got to hopefully they

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Speaker 7: you know, he improves, that's what they're counting on, but

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Speaker 7: your tackles have to play.

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Speaker 2: Better, especially in this game.

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Speaker 3: And continue the point about Max Crosby defensively, like right

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Speaker 3: before the trade deadline. Obviously trade deadline is gone now,

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Speaker 3: but everybody around here around the media, that's what you

579
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Speaker 3: were thinking, right, But you you were thinking that, but

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Speaker 3: you got an opportunity to watch him as a player,

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Speaker 3: and you know what he does at that defensive line

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Speaker 3: and Dak Over the last couple of weeks, especially in

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Speaker 3: Arizona the Denver game, he was getting touched up.

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Speaker 4: A lot and that's and he was having to run

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Speaker 4: a lot too.

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Speaker 2: And you don't want that.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like not on design runs and bootlegs

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Speaker 3: like that, but this is one of those games that obviously,

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Speaker 3: if you do have your running game going, that kind

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Speaker 3: of pushes that defense from pinning their ears back because

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Speaker 3: you stayed balanced. And then maybe just maybe that also

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Speaker 3: preserves your defense as well by keeping them on the

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Speaker 3: sideline drinking GATORA.

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Speaker 6: I think I would be foolish enough to test Crosby.

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Speaker 6: I would be foolish enough to let him know we're

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Speaker 6: not afraid to come your way. I would I would

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Speaker 6: be that, I would be that player, I would be

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Speaker 6: that coach. But also with Shady, I think he has

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Speaker 6: an idea of the plays that he's gonna run to

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Speaker 6: somehow keep a Crosby at bay uh, misdirection, try and

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Speaker 6: get outside, you know, some type of things that you know,

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Speaker 6: deception is some deception type of plays that would keep

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Speaker 6: him on.

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Speaker 4: His toes because he's not I know, he's not the.

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Speaker 6: Only player on that defense, no good, but he is

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Speaker 6: definitely at this point the one that's making the plays.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's the difference maker on that defense. If

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Speaker 6: they're gonna stop any if they're gonna stop a team,

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Speaker 6: it's gonna come because the Quasby's playing his ball.

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Speaker 5: He's playing what he's supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 7: Somebody asked me what side does he play on? I

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Speaker 7: said both, they go What do you mean whichever side?

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Speaker 5: He's everywhere?

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Speaker 4: He's in everywhere weakness.

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Speaker 5: Yes, both of the o ff not just one.

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Speaker 2: That is the kind of I mean.

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Speaker 3: I call him one of those circle, highlight and underline players.

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Speaker 3: You better come in watching out for him. But it's

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Speaker 3: in the secondary too. I start off talking about the

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Speaker 3: running game, but the secondary. You don't have any names

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Speaker 3: over there in the secondary per se that I say,

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Speaker 3: old man, you better watch out about it. This this

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Speaker 3: this guy like you did at Denver, like the secondary

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Speaker 3: maybe in Arizona as well, with some of the names

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Speaker 3: that you have over there.

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Speaker 2: This should be a game.

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Speaker 3: I try to give y'all the courting analogy with GP

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Speaker 3: that didn't work. But I'm just I'm just gonna say it.

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Speaker 3: This should be the game to where you force it.

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Speaker 3: You make sure that George Pickens is involved early and

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Speaker 3: often in your game plan, because I don't see anybody

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Speaker 3: over there that is remotely close to the same ability

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Speaker 3: that you have in George Pickens.

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Speaker 6: To me, when you when you look at our combo,

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Speaker 6: I look at and I'm not to diminish Pickings at

636
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Speaker 6: all on what he does. But to me, Pickens is

637
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Speaker 6: like the jab. If I'm a boxer, he's a jab.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna tat. He's gonna tattoo

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Speaker 6: you all night long, Yes, sir. But then when you

640
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Speaker 6: want to knockout, you know what to do. Then you

641
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Speaker 6: know where you go. You're gonna rap them up over

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Speaker 6: here with ceedee Lamb on the other side.

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Speaker 4: But we have to have time to do that.

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Speaker 5: But that has to be allowed by our front line.

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Speaker 6: And also we have to run the ball first so

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Speaker 6: that you don't put yourself in obvious passing situations. That

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00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 6: happens a lot with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: When we lose.

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Speaker 6: It's third and ten, y'all, because we didn't do anything

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Speaker 6: on first and second down. It's third and twelve, y'all

651
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 6: because we just have a penalty on second down. We

652
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 6: didn't do anything after the second down, and now we're sitting.

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Speaker 5: Up here at thirty twelve.

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Speaker 6: You can't put yourself in a position of a peril

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Speaker 6: when you're playing in someone else's building, especially a dome,

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00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 6: especially a dome. We've shown as a team that were

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Speaker 6: susceptible to false many faults. We were susceptible to a

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00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 6: lot of excuses on why we lose ball games. We

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Speaker 6: got to start taking out the excuses. And that starts

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Speaker 6: to me guys with winning in the trenches.

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Speaker 7: So do you think they're they're gonna lock up City

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Speaker 7: Lamb with Kaiyu Blue?

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Speaker 5: Kelly Kyu Blue? Is that how it says his name?

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Speaker 4: Two words?

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Speaker 6: Two words blue blue? But I can I can respect

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Speaker 6: the name, but he better have help. That's how That's

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Speaker 6: how they're gonna That's how they're gonna do anything. They're

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Speaker 6: gonna Once again, if it's an obvious passing seat situation,

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Speaker 6: your safety will be used strategically to help double team

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Speaker 6: these guys on the outside. So that's why our running

671
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 6: game has to be good. To put yourself in an

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Speaker 6: obvious passing situation and you're away from home in that dome,

673
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Speaker 6: that can be an issue. It will file up the

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Speaker 6: other team and sometimes we become disheartened offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 3: Mickey, what have you thought about Brian Schottenheimer as a

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Speaker 3: play caller.

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Speaker 4: I think I think he's been awfully good.

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Speaker 7: He can't compensate if that offensive line doesn't play back,

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Speaker 7: cannot But I thought until these last two games, I

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00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 7: thought he has managed his talent and was able to

681
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 7: identify what the other team had talent like the team.

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Speaker 7: But again I thought his self scouting was really good.

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Speaker 7: And if you look at his history as a plate caller, uh,

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Speaker 7: he hung his hat on running the football. There was

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Speaker 7: a couple of years and it was with the Jets,

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Speaker 7: I think also Seattle they led the league in rushing

687
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Speaker 7: or right at the top, and most of the years

688
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 7: they were in the top ten in rushing yards. So

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Speaker 7: that's what he wants to do. And I like the

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00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 7: fact that he doesn't call plays to call plays. He's

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Speaker 7: calling plays for players like, Okay, I'm calling this play

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Speaker 7: for CD Lamb or I'm calling this play for George

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Speaker 7: Pickers because I think I got.

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Speaker 5: It, wanted that around here all the time.

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Speaker 7: Don't just call your favorite, right, And so I thought

696
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 7: he had was doing a very good job of that,

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Speaker 7: but a lot of it was based.

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Speaker 4: On the ability to run the football.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so where are we? Who is our starting line?

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Speaker 6: I don't know if so, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean they're going, you know, if they're doing their five starters,

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Speaker 7: if they've seen it's been Geidon, Tyler Smith, Cooper bebe Uh,

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Speaker 7: Tyler Booker, and Terrence Steele, so.

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Speaker 4: They really that's our strongest, that's our strongest lineup.

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Speaker 7: And and and then the the previous game they were

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00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 7: they were given Nate Thomas snaps at right tackle. Uh

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Speaker 7: and until Geyiton went out, what did do you have

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00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 7: a concussion?

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Speaker 10: Concussion?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 7: And then he got forced to play left tackle. I

712
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Speaker 7: thought he did. Okay, he wasn't great, but yeah, I

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Speaker 7: mean there's a reason why they were giving him first

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Speaker 7: team snaps in right tackle in place of Terrence Steele.

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Speaker 7: And and you know Steele is still uh his his

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Speaker 7: strength is run.

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Speaker 4: Blocking and and and past blocking.

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Speaker 7: It was always his weakness and teams have seen that,

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Speaker 7: and you know, one on one they take advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: Uh, So you know, give him help.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, let's give him some hell, let's go.

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Speaker 7: Two tight ends, you know, and just say okay. And

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Speaker 7: if you noticed a lot of times when they go

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Speaker 7: to tight ends and they were kind of uh tipping

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Speaker 7: their hand a little bit. But instead of Scoon Maker

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Speaker 7: as the second tight end, it's been span Ford. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and that's why they were able to throw to him

728
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 7: whichever game for a touchdown, because they're thinking, well, this

729
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Speaker 7: guy's not leaving the line Scrimmers, right, he's six eight.

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Speaker 5: Throw it up to him, Williams.

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Speaker 2: Let's take out.

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Speaker 2: Hey Bill, I didn't know you were here.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I just we were doing the show.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he decided to join you.

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Speaker 2: We left you a few minutes. We left you a

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Speaker 2: few minutes.

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Speaker 12: Come on, man, I can recap the taping of the

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Speaker 12: Coaches Show, which you know what I one of the

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Speaker 12: things that I love about this coach is that he, uh,

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Speaker 12: he's hands on on everything that happens in the building.

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Speaker 12: And I've done the Coaches Show with Mike McCarthy. I

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Speaker 12: did it with Jason Garrett and they were great. You know,

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Speaker 12: they show up the show up, answer questions.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: But Coach Schottenheimer is one that he uh, he's got

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Speaker 12: input on what we talked about, what he wants to

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Speaker 12: talk about, which helps me out a lot. And even

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Speaker 12: and especially this week with the tragic passing of Marshan,

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Speaker 12: we in advance decided, okay, how much time is appropriate,

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Speaker 12: you know, because I mean they're going out on the

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Speaker 12: practice field right now and we're getting back to Yeah,

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Speaker 12: that's right, And so we spent the first segment of

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Speaker 12: the show talking about Marshan. And you know, he was

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Speaker 12: so great yesterday talking about Marshan at the press conference,

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Speaker 12: and Mickey was at the memorial service as well. But anyway,

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Speaker 12: and you know, at the end of the show, he's

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Speaker 12: got his shot, he's shot for.

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Speaker 10: The week and he and.

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Speaker 12: So it's just I think it I get a little

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Speaker 12: glimpse doing the show what he's like, and then that's

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Speaker 12: takes up five minutes of his day or whatever. We

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Speaker 12: wait for twenty minutes, but it takes five minutes. It

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Speaker 12: gives you a glimpse of how he wants things run

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Speaker 12: throughout the organization, you know, which I really appreciate so.

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Speaker 6: Well hopefully, well hopefully, but he's doing a great job.

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00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 6: Now this is extremely sensitive time, and you know there

817
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 6: has to be a timing with it. You can only

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Speaker 6: grieve so long, and we talked about earlier. Now we

819
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Speaker 6: got to get back to work. That's just the way

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Speaker 6: it is. Nate Newton says, it's fortunate that we have

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Speaker 6: to get back to work because now we have something

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Speaker 6: instead of dreading or having to deal with what I

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Speaker 6: just had to deal with.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, in this case, what they're looking at. Okay,

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Speaker 12: this is the first time. You may have already talked

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Speaker 12: about this, This first time. They're on the practice field

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Speaker 12: since the game we could go Monday, and so that's

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Speaker 12: ten days and now they've got three days to get

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Speaker 12: ready to go play on Monday night. And you're not

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Speaker 12: only playing on Monday night. Then you're playing three games

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Speaker 12: and eleven days and four games and eighteen days, and

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Speaker 12: so it's coming in a hurry at you and.

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Speaker 7: Not only Monday night, Monday night National TV.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, you better be ready.

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Speaker 7: Guys are proud, right, you know, no one wants to

836
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Speaker 7: go out there and embarrass them, so you would hope

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Speaker 7: that's the motive.

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Speaker 4: Extra motivation.

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Speaker 7: I think the other motivation we talked about it early

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Speaker 7: is you know, you're playing for the memory of your teammate,

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Speaker 7: to play like he would want you to play. Because

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Speaker 7: people you know.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to.

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Speaker 7: The female security guard that's usually out and she had

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Speaker 7: said something and I said, well, did you know who

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Speaker 7: he was? And she goes, I don't know a lot

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Speaker 7: of the players. I don't know how closely I follow him,

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Speaker 7: but I know who he was, right, And I said,

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Speaker 7: because he smiled. She goes his smile and he was

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Speaker 7: always nice and said alwe And it was like it

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Speaker 7: wasn't you know all the things people were saying about him,

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Speaker 7: this is the little security guard and he stood out

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Speaker 7: to her. Yeah, so he affected a lot of people.

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Speaker 7: So you know, I think, shot, He's right. We don't

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Speaker 7: want to move on, but we got to move forward.

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Speaker 2: There's no playbook for this.

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Speaker 3: And I think you guys were you were talking about this, Mickey,

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Speaker 3: and just watching the way that the interview went, press

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Speaker 3: conference went yesterday and listening to Shady, you realize there's

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Speaker 3: a real human aspect that he's showing in this where

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Speaker 3: I'm only I'm used to seeing coaches be kind of

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Speaker 3: that stern, you know, leader of men, not showing a

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Speaker 3: whole lot of emotion, but in a situation like this,

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Speaker 3: his ability to be transparent with how he's feeling. I

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Speaker 3: think that's that's just something that again that nobody wants

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Speaker 3: to deal with a situation like this, and then in

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Speaker 3: the face of being a leader. Also, I just like

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Speaker 3: the way that he's handling it, handling everything.

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Speaker 7: Well, he's handling it like he's one of them. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 7: because that's the way the players are feeling. I remember

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Speaker 7: when DApp talked about his brother committing suicide and he

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Speaker 7: was really open and really real, and somebody out there

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Speaker 7: in the national media criticized him, the quarterback shouldn't be

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Speaker 7: weak like that.

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Speaker 4: You've got to be shocked stupid, right. I heard it,

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Speaker 4: and I was like I wanted to punch the TV.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's like, no, he's being real, And

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Speaker 7: I think that's that's.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of what we had to deal with back

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Speaker 5: in the eighties, that kind.

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Speaker 4: Of talk right there, right, Yeah, that.

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00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 5: Kind of been sensitive talk.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and you know those are the main guys

885
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 6: who are the cowards, So yeah, we don't even deal

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00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 6: with that. But you talked about how uh three like

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00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 6: the time that they've had these number of days they've

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00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: had versus playing a game. Right away. I've been trying

889
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 6: to answer that question. I don't know if I could, Yeah,

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00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: I think I would. I think playing right away would

891
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 6: be tougher. Just of course I hadn't gone through it,

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00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 6: but it seems like playing right away would be a

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00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 6: little bit tough.

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00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 7: We were talking about the other two deaths before games

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00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 7: with Marcus Paul and Jerry Brown, and they had to

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Speaker 7: play next day games up.

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Speaker 6: He was asking which would be tougher, and I would

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00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 6: say playing right away.

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Speaker 5: It seemed like that would be the toughest way. I couldn't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Just just for looking at it from the outside, this

902
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 6: is good because I see how this is being handled.

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00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 6: You know, having that time, you know, being looked out

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Speaker 6: for commiserating all of that.

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Speaker 5: You know, you have time to do that that that's

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Speaker 5: not a quick thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but having to play right away kind of hard

908
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 6: to get all of that together and play a game.

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00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: Did they win those games?

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00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 7: They won the walk off field goal. I don't remember

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00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 7: what happened that Thanksgiving with Marcus.

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Speaker 13: Paul twenty twenty. It wasn't good. Probably yeah, yeah, right, yeah,

913
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 13: so Bill, we had it up. We had a good show.

914
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Speaker 13: You know, we did it.

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Speaker 10: Here's what I will say, heckma, what's up? I would

916
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Speaker 10: like my seat back.

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Speaker 12: I bet you would behind my left shoulder over here,

918
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 12: I mean your seat.

919
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 10: Okay, I can't see what the monitor.

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Speaker 4: Over here that's got the NFL network, you.

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Speaker 12: Got And Everson looks totally different from this advantage point.

922
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 12: He probably you probably feel the same way, doesn't he.

923
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 12: You think you got his good side or his bad side?

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Speaker 2: It's Everson Walls, man, no matter.

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Speaker 4: Side.

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Speaker 5: Let's do this. Let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Hold your hold your right hand though, man, man.

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Speaker 5: What is that? So?

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Speaker 3: I called G League Basketball games ESPN n b A,

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00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: G League games And this is a token of their

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Speaker 3: appreciation for Franchise of the Year.

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Speaker 4: And so did they win the championship?

933
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: No, the franchise of the year.

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Speaker 10: They were voted franchise of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so uh man.

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Speaker 10: How much money they got in that gane?

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Speaker 2: They got? They got it in there? All those real

938
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: are they? Oh? This is all real?

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 5: I'll do it like that. Man I got Hey, man,

941
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: I gotta ring. I ain't pay for it.

942
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 10: Just like man, I'm gonna throw my sunglasses in here.

943
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 5: You might have to.

944
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Speaker 2: It's the last time you'll see it. I figured i'd

945
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Speaker 2: do it today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been very district.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. So y'all ready to go?

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Speaker 5: We ready to go?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get up out of here.

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Speaker 4: Now we can do another.

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Speaker 10: We'll see you again tomorrow at high noon.

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Speaker 5: Right go Cowboys.

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