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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown What a pick at the thirty five yard line

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 4: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 2: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 2: Tray McBride. Oh that was nasty right there, right swam

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Speaker 2: the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo. He came

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Speaker 2: flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know everyone around this time of year has their

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Speaker 2: list right what they want for the holidays. What if

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Speaker 2: I went contrarian or maybe reverse engineer it? Could you

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Speaker 2: have what you don't want for the holidays? Could I

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Speaker 2: Pacific Office Automation Or is that confusing and confounding?

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Speaker 3: Would there be a parade.

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Speaker 2: Actually, you know what, on Thanksgiving I got what I

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Speaker 2: didn't want. I didn't go to the parade. You're right, Dren,

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Speaker 2: that's a great example. Okay, we're out of the gates.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't that also? Could you also argue you got what

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Speaker 4: you wanted, which was to not go to the parade?

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Speaker 2: You could, But I'm going to argue that we're overthinking

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Speaker 2: that one, so not saying it's not accurate. But uh,

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Speaker 2: here's my point, and I really need to get to

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Speaker 2: one point because actually I'm sinking within my own intro here.

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Speaker 2: What was it? How many Purge movies were there?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like eight five.

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Speaker 2: You're the one who knows what aint I just called

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Speaker 2: it up here, Purge, Purge, anarchy, purge election. You're Darren,

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Speaker 2: the first Purge and the forever person.

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Speaker 4: We've heard those.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the six Purge movie is set to

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Speaker 2: film in twenty twenty six, come out, and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: they're gonna start shooting it and uh apparently.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be on Netflix only to streaming.

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Speaker 2: They have a they have a script, and it's gonna

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Speaker 2: have some sort of apocalypse theme to it, post apocalypse.

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Speaker 3: If they're gonna have a script on a movie. I'm stunned.

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Speaker 3: Stunned it time.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying the script has been determined.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well you should be an extra.

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Speaker 2: And that is you know what, I'll have time in

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Speaker 2: the off season. I like that idea.

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Speaker 4: Figure out a way to get you signed out.

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Speaker 2: So a little prediction. We look into the Crystal Football.

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Speaker 2: It'll be titled Purge Apocalypse. You want you watch? That'll

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Speaker 2: be okay, I'm talking about this holiday season. Yes, how

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Speaker 2: about playoff Purge twenty twenty five NFL style. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about a playoff field that does not include the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs. I think America wins in that scenario. How

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Speaker 2: about a playoff field that does not include the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: All right, you want a hot take, how about a

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Speaker 3: playoff field without Baltimore?

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Speaker 2: Because America is sick of the Ravens and Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: looks terrible. And you know what, if you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the second most haughty fan base in the

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Speaker 2: NFL would have to be the Bills, behind the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: and the Twelves. So you know what, leave the Bills

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Speaker 2: out as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, I'm going to do it. This

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Speaker 3: is my quick hot take to what you were just saying, Paul,

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Speaker 3: believe it or not. And I may be in the

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Speaker 3: vast minority here. Is there a vast minority? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It depends. You can check the Gallop poll on it.

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Speaker 3: I would rather see the Chiefs in the playoffs than

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Speaker 3: the Patriots. I've had enough Patriots in the postseason to

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Speaker 2: So but this is the fresh and exciting ession, the

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Speaker 2: new and improvement. No such thing. No, not me, America.

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Speaker 3: I mean, does it hurt me if they're not in

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Speaker 3: But but if if them not getting in means the

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Speaker 2: In nothing says Chiefs fatigue Danny like Taylor Swift getting

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Speaker 2: one just one cameo on Sunday Night Football. The TV

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Speaker 2: is in America is sick of Taylor Swift and the

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. First of all,

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Speaker 4: I was love it. I don't think we should loop

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Speaker 4: in Taylor Swift to Cheess fatigue.

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Speaker 2: But no Eagles fans. I'll loop into Eagles fatigue though.

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Speaker 2: The fans, you know, speaking of the holidays, Eagles fans

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Speaker 2: are sort of like you ever have like the holiday

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Speaker 2: that couple comes over and they're the Bickersons. You know,

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Speaker 2: they never stop arguing. They're always you know, going at

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Speaker 2: each other. You know, the Bickersons. That's what Eagles fans are.

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Speaker 2: The Bickersons.

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Speaker 4: After Monday Night's game, I'm surprised I didn't see things

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Speaker 4: online of Philly fans waiting on the to for the

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Speaker 4: Eagles to return home with torches lit.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Tony Jefferson, everybody, that's right. No, they just

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Speaker 3: leave me some Tony Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: Just leave that for old miss fans and Lane Kiffin haters.

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Speaker 2: You can leave that aspect to it.

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Speaker 3: About the the Tony Jefferson, Are you're talking about the tarmac?

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Speaker 2: Tony Jefferson, Fine, Oklahoma, sooner, I'm talking about the tarmac.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was an eighth round draft pick. He

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Speaker 3: likes to tell you he's an eighth round.

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Speaker 2: That's what he says. Oh, you've never heard him, so

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Speaker 2: I never heard him say eighth round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: He says, I am the I am the great eighth

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Speaker 2: Well, once upon a time there were twelve rounds in

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Speaker 3: I mean, once upon a time there were twenty rounds.

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Speaker 3: If they want to go far back.

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Speaker 2: Enough, well, once upon a time, the Arizona Cardinals had

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Speaker 2: I segue, it was beautiful and to what just happened?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that was a beautiful drive. Five play, sixty

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride, no shocker to all of us who have

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Speaker 2: Michael was Wilson on the business end of a nineteen

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Speaker 4: It's a great question Paul.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a game of adjustments and Chris Shule and there

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Speaker 2: at that moment, you're thinking, you have two of the

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Speaker 2: wasn't that more sustainable over the course of the game.

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Speaker 4: There is no good answer because as the game went on,

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Speaker 4: the pocket was collapsing much quicker. Jacobe were said had

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Speaker 4: he threw the ball much faster. The run game was

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Speaker 4: non existent. Brussette was the leading rusher, which is not

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Speaker 4: not the most mobile and those are just from scrambles.

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Speaker 4: It just it wasn't able to continue. And as time

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Speaker 4: And that's not a great recipe. It is frustrating because

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Speaker 4: you saw those sparks, and you saw them early on,

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Speaker 4: relying heavily on Wilson. It's also a pretty banged up

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Speaker 4: in the NFL, but it all starts in the trenches,

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Speaker 4: and the right side of the offensive line already had

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Speaker 4: Junior left the game with a knee injury, and as

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Speaker 4: not saying this was on Friar by any means. I'm

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Speaker 4: just saying you've had a pretty banged up offense and

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Speaker 4: lot of a lot of toughness to overcome against a

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Speaker 2: And once you get down and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: Alexander said Red Sea Report this week. Once it was

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Speaker 3: You can't it was seventeen to ten, Matt Hawk as

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Speaker 3: There was like a minute forty two I think on

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Speaker 3: only did they give up points, but you end up

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Speaker 3: to start the half, and that was just that's a

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Speaker 4: Not only giving up points, the Rams scored on one

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Speaker 4: play drives twice. So we're talking about a banged up offense.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit of a banged up defense, not nearly

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Speaker 3: Will say, and I know we'll probably get to Michael

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Speaker 3: over the last two years, or actually the last it

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Speaker 3: was a year and a half before Wilson went on

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Speaker 3: his hot streak here where supposedly Michael Wilson never created

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Speaker 3: any separation. And I feel like half the time Michael

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Speaker 4: a certain extent. We've talked about the differences of Kyler

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Speaker 4: Murray and Jacoby Brissett, and not that one is necessarily

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Speaker 2: You know what sort of challenge is that? Well, we

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Speaker 4: Not to mention the Rams defense, that defensive front is

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Speaker 4: And there's big question marks around Wednesday. Recording this on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Wednesday is day twenty one of Trey Benson's practice window

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Speaker 3: Well, and when you talk about questions, and nothing's been

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Speaker 2: You flip Kelvin beat him over to the left tackle.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know if it makes a difference when

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be. I mean, not that the Chiefs have

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Speaker 3: Oh, you already have.

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Speaker 2: You're no longer a run first Dallas. So Lorenzo Alexander

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Speaker 3: That's a big reason to me.

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Speaker 4: and Trey Benson, whether it was on the offensive line,

436
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Speaker 4: whether it was on the running backs, all the above,

437
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 4: bringing in the plays that were being called, this run

438
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 4: game was not as formidable as it was when last

439
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 4: season ended. So from the start, the identity has not

440
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 4: been a run first team, which sometimes is okay, if

441
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 4: you don't have that right, you don't want to force it.

442
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 4: Do you want to be balanced? Do you want to

443
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 4: be able to run the ball, to open up the playbook,

444
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 4: to wear down a defense, to control the line of

445
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Speaker 4: scrimmage and the clock. Absolutely, it's just not where the

446
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Speaker 4: Cardinals have been the last couple of weeks.

447
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a Robert naysayer and just say that

448
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: the Dallas game won you guys just mentioned it.

449
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Speaker 2: Here we go.

450
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Speaker 3: You were the Cardinals were ahead almost the whole game,

451
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Speaker 3: and two you were playing just an awful defense. I'm

452
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 3: like that defense couldn't, especially at that point, couldn't stop anything.

453
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Speaker 3: And we're saying, you know, I just I think you're

454
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Speaker 3: going I think what's gonna happen is you're gonna go

455
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Speaker 3: into Houston and when the game starts, they're going to

456
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Speaker 3: try and run the ball a little bit. And can

457
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Speaker 3: your defense, which did not play well against the Rams,

458
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Speaker 3: can they keep it close against the Texans, And if

459
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Speaker 3: they do, it's gonna look a lot more balanced, And

460
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Speaker 3: if they don't, it's not gonna well.

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Speaker 2: This just in the Texans offense ain't no Rams offense. CJ. Stroud,

462
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Speaker 2: ain't no Matthew Stafford. It's not the same challenge. It's

463
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Speaker 2: not the same caliber of QB who's gonna beat you

464
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Speaker 2: with both his brain and his arm. Talent they don't have.

465
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Speaker 2: Nico Collins is great, but obviously the Rams have two

466
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Speaker 2: of those premiere wide receivers, so and they've been really

467
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: banged up a running back as well. The Texans. So

468
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 2: it's a better defense than the Rams, which is saying something.

469
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Speaker 2: It's the best defense in the league. It's a defense

470
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Speaker 2: that heck could get them all the way to the

471
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Speaker 2: AFC Championship. I mean, they're playing that good, but the

472
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Speaker 2: offense is in nearly what the Cardinals just faced in

473
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Speaker 2: the Rams and Sean mcvanniel.

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Speaker 3: There's no question about that. There's none. Hey, I just

475
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Speaker 3: have to say this real quick, Paul, because I'm sure

476
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Speaker 3: this is where you're headed. I'm very excited for getting

477
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Speaker 3: cultured this week. Because Danny talked it way way up.

478
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Speaker 4: I didn't talk it way way up.

479
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Speaker 3: And Zach Gershman had her back on that side.

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Speaker 4: I just said I'm excited for it. That's talking way

481
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Speaker 4: way up.

482
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying calling her shot or not, we'll find

483
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Speaker 2: out getting cultured.

484
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Speaker 4: Danny will segue to here getting cultured with Danny. It

485
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Speaker 4: is not just directed at Paul.

486
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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

487
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Speaker 3: Yes, you got me very excited.

488
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Speaker 2: Now I am on.

489
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Speaker 4: Social media and consume more at pop culture than both

490
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Speaker 4: of you combined.

491
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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead.

492
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Speaker 4: What oh well, fellas, it seems we are poised to

493
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Speaker 4: see Mike Tyson's but on TV yet again.

494
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Speaker 2: It can always get worse, it can.

495
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Speaker 4: Always get better, Paul. Mike Tyson announced that he is

496
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Speaker 4: going to fight Floyd Mayweather Spring twenty six in Africa. No,

497
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Speaker 4: Tyson will be almost sixty by at that point. And

498
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Speaker 4: it's an exhibition fight, which means Mayweather's fifty and oh

499
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Speaker 4: record will not be on the line. It's gonna be

500
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Speaker 4: two eight minute rounds between the two of them. Oh

501
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Speaker 4: my goodness, remember that was.

502
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Speaker 3: The other one. That was the other one in exhibition though.

503
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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know the answer. I just remember

504
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Speaker 4: Paul complaining about seeing Mike Tyson's but on his TV.

505
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Speaker 2: The most famous saying around Mike Tyson was his old credo,

506
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. True.

507
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Speaker 2: If my plan is to watch that fight, I want

508
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Speaker 2: you to punch me in the face.

509
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Speaker 3: Also true, That's fair.

510
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Speaker 2: I mean, didn't we all learn our lessons?

511
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Speaker 3: How does Warner brothers feel about that?

512
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Speaker 2: I mean, the only moment that wasn't buffering was when

513
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Speaker 2: we got his wrinkled naked rear end. I mean it was.

514
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Speaker 2: It was so awful. The whole experience was so bad.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, and then they got out there. Can I

516
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: ask you something? Was the last fight against Jake Paul

517
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: not an exhibition because they came out there and there

518
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: was less action than an NFL game in August.

519
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Speaker 3: I mean, patrol here, she's got a whole get I

520
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Speaker 3: don't know if she's going to be able to finish.

521
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Speaker 2: I mean, was there over a class the.

522
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Speaker 4: World Wide Web. The fight was initially announced as an exhibition,

523
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Speaker 4: but the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulations later proved

524
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Speaker 4: it as a sanctioned professional bout.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and that's good to know. What I don't want

526
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Speaker 2: to know is how much each fighter, and I'm using

527
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Speaker 2: that term loosely, how much they profited. I don't want

528
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Speaker 2: to know how much Jake Paul might Tyson made off

529
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Speaker 2: that Defogle.

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Speaker 3: It was just a great way to start am off

531
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Speaker 3: big time.

532
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Speaker 4: There more bad news looms. The lou troubles continue, and

533
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Speaker 4: this has nothing to do with the heist from Oh No,

534
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: there was a water leak that has damaged three hundred

535
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Speaker 4: to four hundred books, journals, document Come on, now, here's

536
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: the good news. The deputy administrator said that there were

537
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Speaker 4: no heritage artifacts damaged. They were quote extremely useful but

538
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 4: by no means unique.

539
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to say, as somebody who just got

540
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Speaker 3: some plumbing done by emergency air and heating, by the way,

541
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 3: dam that just fixing a shower is like a couple grands.

542
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 3: So I can't only imagine what the lover is getting charged.

543
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know who's doing it.

544
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's emergency somebody else.

545
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: They've gone international.

546
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I don't know if Leo would be

547
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Speaker 3: making that trek out to Let me.

548
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Speaker 2: Just say this, the NFL has Black Monday. On Black Monday,

549
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a number of NFL head coaches. Whoever's

550
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: coaching the Louver right now should be fired, all right,

551
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: whoever is actually managing, they should be fired because there's

552
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: too too much dysfunction going on in Paer's going to.

553
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 4: Guess that their password to their security footage was password.

554
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Speaker 2: Come on come, or that it was written on a

555
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Speaker 2: post a note right on the screens ran the screen saver.

556
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Speaker 4: Oh this is a good one. Philip Rivers is returning

557
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: to the NFL. Colts. Quarterback Daniel Jones was playing with

558
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 4: a broken leg unfortunately had an achilles injury Sunday. Done

559
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 4: for the year. Their backup Riley Leonard has a knee injury.

560
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Speaker 4: So it's Philip Rivers to the rescue. Who was with

561
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Speaker 4: the Colts in twenty twenty and now that high school

562
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Speaker 4: football is done and Rivers is no longer coaching his

563
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: son's team. He's available. In fact, I did see online

564
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Speaker 4: that supposedly Rivers was using the same offense for that

565
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Speaker 4: high school team as the Colts with Shane Steichen, which

566
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Speaker 4: is interesting. The forty four year old is currently a

567
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Speaker 4: semi finalist for the Hall of Fame, which means if

568
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Speaker 4: he plays a game, that will reset his minimum five.

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Speaker 3: Years if he gets on the roster, which I would

570
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Speaker 3: assume he won't be on the roster unless he plays

571
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Speaker 3: a game. But yes, if just the practice squad, he.

572
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Speaker 4: Plays a game that five years restarts, and if he doesn't,

573
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: there's what three games if he does crazy, I.

574
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Speaker 2: Mean, there's a good chance sat in Canton, Ohio this summer,

575
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: he could be standing there next to Drew Brees and

576
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Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald.

577
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Speaker 3: Right. I don't know if I would say good chance

578
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Speaker 3: just because of how tough it is to get in

579
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: and there's a couple other guys, but yeah, I mean

580
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: it's not well if he resets, I mean, he's really

581
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: pushing it back. But if you if you believe you

582
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: can come back and play, and you know, grandfather your

583
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: way into the playoffs, which, by the way, I have

584
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: to say after this news came out. Matt Castle, the

585
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: former backup quarterback, former neighbor of Mani asin Fort in Nashville.

586
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: By the way, he's a good knowledge that he quote.

587
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: Tweeted the report of Rivers coming back and said, Chris Ballard,

588
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: give me a shout arms ready, less kids and not

589
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: a grand podcast.

590
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: So okay, let me okay. First off, to your point

591
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: about the playoffs. Another reason we need the playoff Purge

592
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Right, no Case, no Baltimore, no Buffalo.

593
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: Put Indian there with Philip Rivers. I'd be a win

594
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: number two. When did high school football start trumping the NFL? Right?

595
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater didn't come back until he got ousted out

596
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: of his high school gig. This just in, Darren, you

597
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: might want to tweet this out. After winning the San

598
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: Diego City title, Carson Palmer is going to come back

599
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: to the Arizona Cardinals now that the high school season

600
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Speaker 2: is over.

601
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Speaker 4: I do not think you don't tweet that out.

602
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Speaker 3: I will say that I made that up. Carson, great coach.

603
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: We talked about this before, though, because somebody else in

604
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: the mailbag brought up again Kurt Warner coming back to

605
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Speaker 3: be the OC of the Cardinals, and I'm like, do

606
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Speaker 3: you not understand that coaching in high school is so

607
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 3: much less time. These guys don't want to coach and

608
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: take the time they don't And ending.

609
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Speaker 4: On a high note, as of today, Tuesday, December ninth,

610
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: we've done it, the three of us, we have really

611
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: made an impact. Chili's Skilla Caeso is officially back. Your

612
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: voice matters. You've both been cultured. You're welcome, all right.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know what what is it Chili caso.

614
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: The Skillett Caso, skillet caso.

615
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: Wait until she brings one in.

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00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: See, I think case ada, but it has nothing to

617
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Speaker 2: do with a case caso is.

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Speaker 4: Nothing to explain the difference between no, let's.

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Speaker 2: Move along, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Good call.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a good getting cultured, right, It was solid.

622
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was especially with you laughing as.

623
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Speaker 4: Much as you did, because you know what if I

624
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: just bring up Mike Tyson's but I just know I'm

625
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: going to get something out of.

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Speaker 2: Paul Okay, clip clip clip that was premeditated, That was premeditated.

627
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Speaker 2: I think she's playing to the editors. She's playing to

628
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: Omo and Cody right now, she's now actually playing to

629
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Speaker 2: get into the intro to the game day coverage. I

630
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: think that's what's happening around here. Yeah, okay, So we

631
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: had breaking news there the skillet caso Mike Tyson, and

632
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Speaker 2: then there was also the breaking news end of last

633
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: week Pila Murray shut down for the rest of the season.

634
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: All right, not exactly, you know, epic shocking news. I

635
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 2: think everyone was wondering exactly what the timetable was. So

636
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: now we find out, what do we make of it?

637
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: Where does this leave the Cardinals? The QB question will

638
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: be the question of the off season. There's no doubt

639
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: about it. Darren, You've been through this before. Yeah, I

640
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: mean what says this is going.

641
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: To be a unique situation of what happens. And I look,

642
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen yet,

643
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: and I know a lot of people assume what's going

644
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: to happen. I do think there's some still some moving

645
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: parts here. But I'm going to say this, I've seen

646
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: so much argument because I'm terminally online about this on

647
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: both sides, and the to me, the answer is somewhere

648
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Speaker 3: in the middle. It might be on one side or

649
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Speaker 3: the other, but it's not out here, And the number

650
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: of people that want to like completely trash one quarterback

651
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: in defense of the other is kind of mind boggling

652
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: to me. I get the pros and the cons of

653
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: both of them, but I don't understand why you have

654
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: to like throw one dude to the side to praise

655
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: the other one.

656
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: And I mean, couldn't you argue the win loss record

657
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: is almost identical with each starting quarter time this year,

658
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: this year, this year, this year.

659
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: I mean, but see, that's the thing is like there

660
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: are gonna be people that want to bring in and

661
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: I don't think this is necessarily wrong. There there is

662
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: a history. I mean, to me, you can't just punt

663
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: the resume. You can't, like, I understand if you want

664
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: to deal in the now with when you're talking about

665
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, but like to sit here and say that

666
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: he's never been successful at any point or for at

667
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: times is just wrong. And to sit there and say

668
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett is has failed because they're one in whatever

669
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: in his starts is wrong. But again there are arguments

670
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: to be made both sides. I think ultimately, to me,

671
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: the big thing is is what the timetable looks like

672
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: in the off season, how long this gets together, you know,

673
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: what kind of conversations, whether there's going to be national

674
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: reports over what's going to happen, and we all been

675
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: around it. I mean, there will eventually be something like that.

676
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: But I do think this. I do think we are

677
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: ways away from knowing exactly what's going on. And I'm

678
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: I got plenty off season where I got to talk

679
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: about stuff. I don't need to get into this right

680
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: this second, because nothing's going to be decided.

681
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: For weeks when we are talking in the moment. Something

682
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a lot with the discourse when people

683
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: are only talking about the bros of one quarterback and

684
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 4: completely trashing another, is there's a lack of nuance to

685
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: the fact that Kyler Murray is hurt, he has a

686
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: foot injury, and when he was on IR and he

687
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: was getting close to the end of the four weeks,

688
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: and suddenly the narrative became that the way the Cardinals

689
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: are handling things with Murray is so unfair, and Murray's

690
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: a better quarter and all this stuff just kind of

691
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: snowballed as if both quarterbacks were healthy and the head

692
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: coach of their GM had sat down and said we're

693
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: going to start this quarterback and this court like that

694
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: isn't even the reality is, the fact of the matter

695
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: is is Murray's done for the year. He's got a

696
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: foot injury. Now you want to have a discourse and

697
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: you want to look the big picture as we inch

698
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 4: closer towards the off season, that's fine, But when you're

699
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: talking about the here and now, when you're choosing to

700
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: trash a quarterback one way or the other, you have

701
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: to have nuance of the situation and understanding Murray is hurt.

702
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: Like the reality is is even if he's the better quarterback,

703
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: whatever it might be, he's not able to play. And

704
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be a reason why people are trashing Jacobe

705
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: Burssett when when Murray's not even healthy enough to be

706
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: on the field.

707
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's because we're playing the Houston Texans.

708
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: Cardinals are playing the Texans this week, but you look

709
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: like what the Texans did to the Chiefs offense with

710
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: the great Patrick Mahomes who in nine years as starting

711
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: quarterback has nine division titles. But when he doesn't have

712
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: an offensive line which was missing three starters, when he

713
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: doesn't have a run game, when he has receivers dropping

714
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: footballs all over the place. Look at Mahomes who had

715
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: zero touchdown passes, three picks. He had a QB rating

716
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: of eighteen in that game against Houston. So when win

717
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray has had a top five, top ten run

718
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: game twenty twenty one, first half of twenty one, guess

719
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: what MVP talks. Even last year, going into the by

720
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: they had the number two ranked run game in terms

721
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: of yards per carry. They were six and four. So, well,

722
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: it's not that black, right, It's not right.

723
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: I was going to just add on to what you're

724
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: just saying, Paul, like, not only did Kyler not really

725
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: have that before he got hurt, Kobe's never had it either,

726
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: So both these guys are dealing with that that issue.

727
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: I look, there's I will say this, and you've said

728
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: this before very clearly, Paul, there are a lot of

729
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: things that have to get figured out in the off season.

730
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: The quarterback is going to be the top story and

731
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: the sexy story, absolutely, and I understand that, and it's important.

732
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: It is it is the most important question, but it's

733
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: not the only question. You know.

734
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: We had this conversation on the pregame show passion and

735
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: AQ Shipley come into the booth and I made the

736
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: following point. The Bears are winning a lot of games

737
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: this year with the young, athletic, inconsistent, slash erratic quarterback

738
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 2: in Caleb Williams. Panthers have turned it around. They're above

739
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: five hundred. They're doing it with a very inconsistent, oh

740
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: five foot ten, more athletic quarterback than traditional quarterback. And

741
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: what's the common denominator in those two turnarounds? And AQ

742
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: finished my sends the offensive line. He's so biased, and

743
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: then he went into unnecessary detail, breaking down every single

744
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: member of both offensive lines. You know, I'm like, okay,

745
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: enough with the flex on the offensive line knowledge, Aq,

746
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: we get it. The point is that they built from

747
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: the inside out and they fixed the offensive line. Ben

748
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: Johnson came in and they invested heavily. They got Joe

749
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 2: Tooney in there. They have a number nine pick overall

750
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: right tackle, He's where I need, AQ, because I forget

751
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: the guy's name. And they rebuilt that thing, just like

752
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: the Panthers put a lot of money into both sides

753
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: of the old line around a franchise center. And so

754
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: it is amazing that even when you can get inconsistent

755
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: play at quarterback, it still can be a winning formula

756
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: if you're winning from the inside out in the trenches

757
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: and there and then, and that's my point. I'm ma

758
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: homes even when you have the great Hall of Famer,

759
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't have an offensive line and or

760
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: a run game, and then severs are dropping footballs. It's

761
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: amazing how pedestrian you can look.

762
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: Long story short, it's not black and white. It's not

763
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: on one person or one player. And there's a lot

764
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: of nuance to this discussion speaking.

765
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: Of what the Chiefs looked like against the Texans, especially

766
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: on offense. I'm about to assume that role. Yes, time

767
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: for wise guy.

768
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise guy. The world's fastest growing

769
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

770
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess. Daddy's right.

771
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: Welcome in everybody, Darren.

772
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see this to Paul because he's always complaining

773
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: that I'm so I'm gonna let him pick first.

774
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, Paul is always complaining about the questions and

775
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 4: the order. Wow.

776
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: You know, the sobering reality. As I've been told, people

777
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: like to watch me lose anyway, did not say I'm

778
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: not picking three ever again. I tried to go contray

779
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: and last day, and so I'm gonna go and honor

780
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: in mac Wilson Senior. Give me number two.

781
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 4: This American rock band formed in Houston in nineteen sixty

782
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: nine released albums like Eliminator, After Murder and Recycler. They

783
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: rose to mainstream fame in the nineteen eighties, boosted by

784
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 4: MGV and the distinctive custom hot rods featured in their

785
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: music videos.

786
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: ZZ top correct.

787
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: Did you know it before the end?

788
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: No?

789
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I didn't know the names of the album.

790
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: As soon as they did the names of the albums,

791
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I know them. Okay, I'll take number

792
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to take number three.

793
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: Two quarterbacks have thrown passes for both the Cardinals.

794
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: And Texas Hope and Darren lives to regret taking number

795
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: three like I have the last four weeks in a row.

796
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: One was Brian Hoyer. The other spent four years with

797
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: Arizona before leaving in twenty ten, and recorded a win

798
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 4: in his only start for Houston in twenty eleven. I

799
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: really should know this, You really should.

800
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: Could you repeat the question one more time? Yes.

801
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: Two quarterbacks have thrown passes for both the Cardinals and Texans.

802
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: One was Brian Hoyer. The other spent four years with

803
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: Arizona before leaving in twenty ten and recorded a win

804
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 4: and is only start for Houston in twenty eleven.

805
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: Is it Josh mccownt it's not.

806
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: With the opportunity to.

807
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: Steal, I'm going to be really, you are going to

808
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: be very I'm going to be around for four a

809
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: guy for four years and I couldn't remember.

810
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: Who it was four years.

811
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: Oh, god, son of a biscuit.

812
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: Liner.

813
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: It is not Liner with the steal.

814
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: Gonna get yourself an incredibly horrible move by me, and

815
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: now Paul is going to beat me.

816
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: Paul? Question one or four?

817
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: You know the first that popped into my head early

818
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: in that question? Stony case? Anyway? Go ahead?

819
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: How did I miss that?

820
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 4: Question one or fouriculous?

821
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: Let's see here. I'm gonna go four.

822
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 4: This musical group was formed in Houston in the late

823
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: nineties and rose to fame with hits like Say my Name,

824
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: Survivor and Booty Delicious. Apparently we're keeping up with the

825
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson theme. No, Paul I was raised on.

826
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: This music never have listened to a song called I'm

827
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: not saying it because the line up and the entrust

828
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: Ah okay, uh okay, I'm gonna pull a Darren, repeat

829
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: the question again. Place.

830
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: This musical group was formed in Houston in the late

831
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: nineties and rose to fame with hits like say My Name,

832
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 4: Survivor and Booty Delicious.

833
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: I Got a Chance, I Got a chance, Destiny's Child,

834
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: son of a Biscuit?

835
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: Correct?

836
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: How about that? How about that?

837
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 4: They are from Houston?

838
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: Here we go.

839
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: I will say that much like Trey McBride talking about

840
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: that block a couple of weeks ago. This is gonna

841
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: eat at me.

842
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: Let's do question one just for funzies. Darren all right.

843
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: This former Cardinals wide receiver who played for Arizona from

844
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: twenty ten to twenty thirteen, appeared in six games for

845
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 4: the Texans in twenty twenty one. He was known for

846
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: giving a military style salute after touchdowns as a tribute

847
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: to his alma mater, the Citadel.

848
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 3: Andre Roberts, Correct.

849
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: Paul, you got to win three one rat Forlord.

850
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 3: I can't believe I missed. Matt Liner.

851
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 4: I should I can't believe that either, stupid am I?

852
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: I should Can I answer that question careful?

853
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 4: He's still your boss.

854
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: I really should act like I've been there before. But

855
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: I already filled in my little H slash mark because

856
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: it was so lopsided, so I filled it in right

857
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: over there.

858
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make myself feel better. Paul and I both

859
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: went seven and six this week, and I knew I

860
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: was having a poor week. But Danny, you kept saying,

861
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: did you take some swings this week to try and

862
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: catch up? Or what happened? Could you had four? Nine?

863
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: It was definitely not my best week and arguably might

864
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: have also been my worst. I don't think I took

865
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 4: a lot of swings, right, but but I took Philly

866
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: over La I took I guess I did take a swing.

867
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 4: I thought New York was gonna beat Miami. Okay, who

868
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: was Thursday night?

869
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: That was Detroit Dallas?

870
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 4: I missed that one.

871
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: I missed that one too, right, So you miss most.

872
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: Of them, so I did. But you know what, you know,

873
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 4: what is making me feel better is the fact that

874
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: at worst I will come in second because Paul cheated

875
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 4: which one week, so he's eliminated.

876
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely not Well, they're still investigating Danny's week two, where

877
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: she out of nowhere went.

878
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: I just went four to nine, and you're trying to

879
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: have this which the hunt out on me.

880
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: It was the week too where she out of nowhere

881
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: she went twelve and one, Like, how did that happen?

882
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: My steroid free record is one twenty five and sixty nine,

883
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: Paul seventy two, Danny One's seventeen and seventy.

884
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: I still have a couple of weeks.

885
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: It's true, Okay, I just want to have one week

886
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: where I make all these picks. And I tell Cody

887
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: I feel pretty about this because I haven't done it yet.

888
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: The last three weeks. I sent them a message going

889
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: just take them come.

890
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: How should the Cardinals feel? Here's my segue, going against

891
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans defense with a revamped offensive line. A

892
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: Houston defense that against Kansas City had three picks, seven passes, defense,

893
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: two sacks, They allowed only ten points. They're number one

894
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 2: scoring D, number one total D, top five in every

895
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: other category, and whereas a lot of teams might have

896
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: an elite pass rusher, they have two.

897
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: I mean again, I think the key to this game.

898
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: Again again run the wildcat for forty snaps.

899
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: We're late in the season. The Cardinals aren't going to

900
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: the postseason, so you're trying to play a little bit

901
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: of a spoiler, and the Texans are desperately trying to

902
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: stay in the wildcard race because the Jaguars keep winning.

903
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: I think I think if the Cardinals defense, which again

904
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 3: didn't play well last week, if they can do something

905
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: against Texans offense and keeps it close, I think you

906
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: can make some things happen.

907
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: I like that two years ago. Of course, he was

908
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: a rookie. Cardinals picked off C. J. Stroud three times.

909
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: And at that point I think he only had two

910
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: interceptions all season, and it was later in the season.

911
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: Now, we did lead a late game winning drive and

912
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: they won, like twenty one sixteen. It was a close game.

913
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: But yes, wow, that was my first time at Energy.

914
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: There are very few sid Now, look, there's a roof,

915
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: so it's closed. But I just remember being on the

916
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: field those final few plays and it was one of

917
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 4: the loudest stadiums I have been at.

918
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't Aq Shipley going back to Aq, doesn't he

919
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: say it's one of the underrated road venues in the league.

920
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: You mean, just to just in terms of the degree

921
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: of difficulty gets in there and you know into yeah.

922
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: And to your point, Danny, they're eight and five, they

923
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: won five in a row, they started owing three. They're

924
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: trying to become the fifth team ever since nineteen ninety

925
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: to start owing three and make the playoffs. So you know,

926
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: everything's bigger in Texas, including the bandwagon where they're getting

927
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: behind the Texans.

928
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not going to deny it. I do think

929
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: the Texans are in the bottom three in the league

930
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: in terms of uniforms and all that stuff. That's just

931
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 3: my personal feeling.

932
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: What is it specifically you do not enjoy or respect

933
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 2: about uniform I don't.

934
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't love their logo, but more importantly, their colors.

935
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: Are all don't I do like the when they wear

936
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 4: the red helmets.

937
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: Though I do like the red helmets. I do like that.

938
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 3: And if they if they kind of go all red

939
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: but the dark blue, it just doesn't do it for me.

940
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: He's the bigger question. The Patriots throw back uniforms they

941
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: wore recently are way better than the current iteration of

942
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: the past. Well, first of all, it looked like a

943
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: USFL team, right.

944
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: I'm old and nostalgic, so I love the fact the

945
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 3: Bucks are going to do the creams calls this weekend.

946
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: I love it when the Broncos wear the orange crushed

947
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: stuff and their old helmets. I like the old Seahawks

948
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: uniforms and and and maybe that's one of the reasons,

949
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: like my two the two uniforms that I'm I don't

950
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: vibe with at all are the Titans and the Texans.

951
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: And maybe that's in part because I did love the

952
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: old Oilers uniform so much, and you had two teams

953
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: that potentially could have warded them and neither one does.

954
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: That's just so frustrating.

955
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: Gotcha, Okay, you know what else is frustrating? When Houston

956
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: Texans get to exist in the AFC South. You realize

957
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Demko Ryan since hired in twenty twenty three, his division

958
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: record is thirteen and four because they're playing in the

959
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: stinking AFC South. Well, I mean they do so right

960
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: now has two ten win teams in a nine win.

961
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm okay with them being in the South. They're pretty south.

962
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: I'm not taking an issue with the geographication.

963
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: Well I just thought that was it. I mean, they're

964
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: not going to play in the AFC more.

965
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: Talking about the state of the division.

966
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: People that Texas is not part of the South.

967
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: Well, people in Texas like to argue that you're all

968
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: your own thing and then whatever. That's a whole different

969
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: podcast that we don't want to get into right now.

970
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what, it kind of sounds like a

971
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: certain college football program that thinks they're holier than thou

972
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: and might be our intro into winning behavior. Can you

973
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: display winning behavior? You have to consistently display winning behavior.

974
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

975
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 4: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

976
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 4: people to that standard.

977
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: Yes, that was a good segue there, Paul.

978
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I am talking about Notre Dame. Notre Dame has

979
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 2: always wanted to have their table for one in college football. Well,

980
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: now you have it, and guess what you're on the

981
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: outside looking in.

982
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 4: They turned down the Pop Tarts Bowl. There's edible trophies.

983
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: There's a lot of nuance here, but mostly it's that

984
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure if you're a Notre Dame person, you're very upset.

985
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: But for the vast majority, not vast minority, but vast

986
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: majority of us, Yeah, tough, tittlely winks. I mean, look

987
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: I get it, but like this is why, this is

988
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: why you schedule what you're supposed to schedule if you're

989
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: only gonna schedule a couple of tough teams, and then

990
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: you're not in a conference, so you can't win a

991
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: conference and you're gonna lose the only two tough teams

992
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: you play.

993
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: And it comes down to you versus a team you

994
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: lost to, and or you still won't join a conference

995
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: for the automatic or guaranteed bid.

996
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: And I've seen a couple of people talking about this.

997
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: The most hilarious part about this was the Notre Dame

998
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: ad talking about how they're upset that the ACC kept

999
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: pushing Miami over them when they're in the ACC. Except

1000
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: they're not in football, just in everything else. And I'm like, okay,

1001
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 3: this is football we're talking about. And number two, if

1002
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: I'm the ACC, like, okay, great, you're in our conference.

1003
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: But like, if you're gonna say we're so strained and

1004
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: maybe this is gonna cause ruckus, then you can take

1005
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: all your Olympic sports and leave the ACC. It's not

1006
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: gonna hurt us. We certainly don't care about basketball.

1007
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: I've said this before. I'm not a big college football

1008
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: all fan, right, I keep up with it to a

1009
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: certain extent. It is just it's it's a totally different

1010
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: animal in a lot of different senses. And the fact

1011
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 4: that you know what I do feel for the players

1012
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 4: of Okay, yes you didn't make the playoffs, but now

1013
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: you're going to deny your players the opportunity for one

1014
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: final game together and to go out and play a

1015
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: bowl game because you want to try and prove a

1016
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: point that's probably not actually going to prove much of

1017
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: a point anyway, Right, Like the games.

1018
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: Are going to start and nobody's going to remember Notre

1019
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: Dame anyway.

1020
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: So right, you just Lane Kiffin right leaving the players

1021
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: quote unquote high and dry of the first opportunity you

1022
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: have to leave for more money, right, what kind of

1023
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: disservice are you doing maybe to your your players, your

1024
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 4: student athletes. And it feels like Notre Dame is kind

1025
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 4: of doing the same thing.

1026
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: Did you see the Kenny Dillingham quote, the ASU head coach,

1027
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: the quote on the state of college football?

1028
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 3: Always I did, and it's right on. This is winning behavior.

1029
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: It's a short quote here, it is we've created a mess.

1030
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: The whole industry, meaning college football is a mess. The

1031
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: only thing that it's not a mess is the dollar signs.

1032
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: Those are still pointing up end quote Kenny Dillingham on

1033
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 2: college football. It reminds me way back when I used

1034
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: to take a few business classes and they would have

1035
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: case studies and really successful companies, and the founder of

1036
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: the company said, I made every mistake. There was every mistake,

1037
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: but it was such a good idea, such a good

1038
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: business idea. It succeeded in spite of it. And so

1039
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: that's what college football is. America loves football. They're gonna

1040
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: love college football. They love their alma maters and everything

1041
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: else about it. The pageantry of the tradition, even if

1042
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: they're screwing it up to the most royal degree, people

1043
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: still watch.

1044
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 4: Did that quote have anything to do with his quarterback

1045
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: who support reportedly do not show up to the banquet?

1046
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: Well, yeah no, And I will say Kenny Dinnlingham had

1047
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 3: another quote basically saying, make no mistake, the college football

1048
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: has been messed up by adults. It's not the kids,

1049
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 3: it's the adults. And I think he was talking about

1050
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: the Levitt stuff, but like, and he's not wrong, but

1051
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: this is where we are. I got to do a

1052
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: quick side off off script real quick. I forgot about this.

1053
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: To put this down did you guys see the NBA

1054
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: highlight of Desmond bane Uh and og Nanobi.

1055
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: No.

1056
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: So, Desmond Bain plays for the Orlando Magic. Og Anenobi

1057
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: plays for the Knicks. They're coming down on a fast break.

1058
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: There's Bain is trailing. His teammate is going in for

1059
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: a layup. Og Ananobi is trying to block the shot.

1060
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: Bain is trailing. There is a block shot. The teammate

1061
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: and og Anobi tumble into the the whatever the baseline

1062
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: right where the under the basket and the padding on

1063
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 3: the basket. They're both well out of bounds. The ball

1064
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: comes down somehow stays right and bounds. Bain grabs it.

1065
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 3: Now he's not falling, he's standing abounds, has the ball,

1066
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 3: and then he's it at og Andobi out of bounds

1067
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: and hits him and then points the other way like

1068
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: it's off him, and the ref goes, yeah, that's it's

1069
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 3: that way, And I'm like, what just happened. I don't

1070
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: even think I don't even think Desmond being got a

1071
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: technical foul for it. But I mean, yes, it was

1072
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: off og Annobi, but like he literally didn't. I mean,

1073
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: he had control of the ball, He like had it

1074
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: for a moment full control. It wasn't like I gotta

1075
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: tip this out of bounds, so.

1076
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: In football terms, it would be unnecessary roughness.

1077
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I think the most winning behavior was

1078
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: ogn Andobi's standing up and he got in his face,

1079
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: but he didn't push him or anything. I'm like, if

1080
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: some dude had done that to me and pick up basketball,

1081
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: Oh not good.

1082
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: But this sort of finds you incur if you do that.

1083
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: In also, Okay, all right, let's getting back to uh

1084
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: let's get back to messing up and being messed up.

1085
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: That would be the segue into the last two items here.

1086
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: On winning behavior, Jalen Hurts two turnovers on one play.

1087
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 4: That was minus four Fantasy football points. That one play

1088
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 4: because he technically turned it over twice.

1089
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: Interception was the interting lost them. The revert, the return

1090
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 3: comes back, the charger gets hit, the ball is loose,

1091
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, grabs it, has control, tries to move it

1092
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: forward again, gets hit, loses the fumble. That is by

1093
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: all the the and everybody was trying to look it

1094
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: up last night, and you can only go back so far.

1095
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: But as far as anybody knows, that's the first time

1096
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: that's happened, well, I.

1097
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 4: Might not be doing well on the picks. Props to me.

1098
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 4: I made the playoffs and both of my fantasy football leagues,

1099
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 4: thank you very much.

1100
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: Of course, I.

1101
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: Forgot to check my roster. I had two players on buy,

1102
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: lost by nine points and got kicked out of the playoffs.

1103
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: As I was informed a little too enthusiastically by Danny

1104
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: earlier in the day, I'm.

1105
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: Not even in that league.

1106
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: Drunk raccoon in Virginia liquor store.

1107
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: There's all always understand that, whether you're a raccoon or

1108
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 3: a normal human being, peanut butter whiskey is awesome.

1109
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: That's facts.

1110
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: If it's so awesome, why did the raccoon end up

1111
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: passed out in a battle?

1112
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: Because he also drank rum and Moonshinegin Gina.

1113
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: A raccoon broke into a liquor store and was broke

1114
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: some bottles, so he was rum and moonshine and peanut

1115
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: butter whiskey and vodka and eggnox, so he really got

1116
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 4: a nice mixture in his belly. Then the staff found

1117
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: him passed down the bathroom.

1118
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: At least he got to the bathroom, which happened to

1119
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: get to the bathroom before they passed it.

1120
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: We should bring wolf in for this. If anybody knows

1121
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: about an eggnog bender, it's Ron Wolfley. We need to

1122
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: get Wolf in here on this.

1123
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: That sounds like a story.

1124
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: I need so winning behavior, assuming the raccoon lived.

1125
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: Uh Pro Bowl voting, So Paris Johnson.

1126
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 3: Paris Johnson went from seventh in the first report all

1127
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: the way to first and there's this is the last

1128
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: report because voting is over on the fifteenth, So please

1129
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: get out and vote on NFL dot com or Easycardinals

1130
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: dot com.

1131
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 2: The cause and effect, by the way, was his appearance

1132
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: with Danny on sideline.

1133
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: I think so now I hope the knee injury doesn't

1134
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 3: keep him from anything because I think if you're hurt,

1135
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: you can't be in the Pro Bowl or something like that.

1136
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: So we'll see how that knee injury goes. But props

1137
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 3: to him. Trey McBride did drop from first to second. Travis,

1138
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 3: that's that's just frazy swifties. Klais dropped a little bit

1139
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: from fifth to seventh. Josh Wett went from fifth to

1140
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: third in outside linebackers. Okay, so we'll see, but make

1141
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: sure you get out and vote as we get to

1142
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: the home stretch and.

1143
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: The voting's in for the Walter Payton Man of the Year.

1144
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: Yes, Calvin Beacham yep, who won in twenty twenty one

1145
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: for this team one in twenty eighteen when he was

1146
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: with the Jets. He is all about the community all

1147
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: the time. He could probably win every year.

1148
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 4: It is one of the most, if not the most

1149
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 4: prestigious award in the NFL. It highlights extensive efforts in

1150
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: the community and to give back, and no one does

1151
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 4: that more than Kelvin Beacham. He does it without the

1152
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: cameras consistently, and he's helping provide clean water He's helping

1153
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: and hunger. He's helping provide minority access for young students

1154
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: to access with careers within steam of science, technology, engineering,

1155
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 4: arts and math. And he does it with his family.

1156
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: He gets his kids involved and with his teammates. So

1157
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: Beecham has that Walter Payton Man of the Year helmet

1158
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 4: decal on his helmet for the rest of the year,

1159
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: and he also gets a forty thousand dollars donation to

1160
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: the charity of his choice.

1161
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 2: Nice That is a double ding. And what's even even

1162
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: more heartwarming is to hear him explain how many young

1163
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: players have followed him and how he was that guy

1164
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: once upon a time, and I forget the Pittsburgh Steeler

1165
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: who showed him the way, but a lot of players

1166
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: have it in their heart, they have that intent. But okay,

1167
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: how where I mean, in what way do I actually

1168
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: make this happen? And so you know, you need someone

1169
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: to sort of show you the way, and that to

1170
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 2: me is one of his great lasting legacies everything Danny

1171
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: just cited. But if he can get a half dozen

1172
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: to a dozen or more young NFL players to follow

1173
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: in his footsteps, that's a great LEGI.

1174
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if he has a

1175
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: great chance at winning the NFL Award because usually that

1176
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 3: goes to a really high profile on field player and.

1177
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: They're usually in their last season.

1178
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of guys like Max Crosby, the

1179
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: left tackle for the or yeah, the left tackle for

1180
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: the Eagles who's having a great year.

1181
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: Not Lane Johnson, but oh boy.

1182
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of guys like that. So it's

1183
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: gonna be tough. But you think of NFL honors, you've

1184
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: got beat him up for the Man of the Year.

1185
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: Buddha Baker again is up for the Art Rooney Sportsmanship.

1186
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: He's a finalist for the third straight year. And then

1187
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: of course you mentioned Fits being in there for potential

1188
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, so there could be some things.

1189
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: Yep, okay, all right, Any final words and going into Houston,

1190
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: anything about what you're looking for this week in particular,

1191
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: any projections, predictions, any other you know.

1192
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 3: I think I might get a voodoo donut in the

1193
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: press room. I think, if I recall correctly, Houston has

1194
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 3: some of the best.

1195
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 4: Press That was a big surprise for me last time

1196
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: we went. That was my first time there. That was

1197
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: a really nice press box.

1198
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: Which that's that's the give and take because I also

1199
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: think and it's proper since NASA is in Houston, because

1200
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: I do think the press box level is near the moon.

1201
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 4: It's pretty close.

1202
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: Paul is just a little dot by the time we

1203
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: get up there down on our field.

1204
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: If you want to see me, just just look for

1205
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: me standing next to line. That's your only chanse Andy

1206
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: for sure, that's the man. I forget the year one year,

1207
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: and it was a while ago. We did actually go

1208
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: to the Space Center that's located in the Houston area

1209
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: and we were in the actual control room for the

1210
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: moon landing in nineteen sixty nine, and that was really cool.

1211
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: That was a photoop and a half, no doubt about that.

1212
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: So okay, all right, well once again playoff Perch twenty

1213
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: twenty five. I just I made my intentions known. I'm

1214
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: trying to speak it into existence. No case, I'll see your.

1215
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: Wife and see if we can stuff that in your stocking.

1216
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: It no Philly, no Baltimore, no Buffalo.

1217
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: And also to get you the full on Netflix pass

1218
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: for the boxing matches or at least the three boxing

1219
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: Man again. I know what you're looking.

1220
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

1221
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: So if my plan is to watch Tyson fight ever again,

1222
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: you have full reign and authority. You're encouraged you punch

1223
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: me straight in the That'll do it for a Cardinals

1224
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,760
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