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Speaker 1: break down the George Pickens deal from all angles, including

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady has put.

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Speaker 1: His stamp on every aspect of the Raiders football operation,

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Speaker 2: We've got storylines galore.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Toda will tell you what he's looking for, including

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Speaker 1: star in Jacksonville. Welcome inside. With the inside is Longside,

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Mike Garafalo. I am Tom Peliicero. One

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty days away from the kickoff of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season, just seven days away. One week from tonight,

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Speaker 1: we will get the full twenty twenty five NFL schedule,

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Speaker 1: which also means we'll find out when the first time

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Speaker 1: with the star on his helmet. That is where we

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Speaker 1: begin on May seventh, where we get a big time

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Speaker 1: NFL trade, Cowboys agreeing to terms to acquire George Pickens

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Speaker 1: Ian From the moment that the Steelers both acquired and

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Speaker 1: end up being the suitor that emerges. And it does

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Speaker 1: sound like this came together pretty quickly. What more do

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Speaker 3: But it did come together pretty quickly after the draft.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, you rarely see trades, blockbuster trades after

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Speaker 3: Negotiations take the form and time that they take, so

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Speaker 3: that simply was the case.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 4: This was just the right time to do this deal.

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Speaker 3: But the two sides didn't talk before the draft, and

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Speaker 3: I know there was some hope from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: It took a while, obviously more than they wanted, but

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Speaker 3: once again, and they've done several of these this offseason,

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Speaker 3: He has been a great, great receiver. But it is

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Speaker 4: Are we going to pay him?

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Speaker 3: The Steelers clearly decided they were not going to Pam.

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Speaker 5: And that was fantastically said by you, except for one

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. That was last year.

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Speaker 5: This year selectively aggressive and we had our laugh with

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Speaker 5: Tomlin during hard knocks you could hear him talking about

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Speaker 5: And so they make this move without a long term

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Speaker 1: And this is nothing new with George Pickens, who we're

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Speaker 1: look at these Steelers in Cowboys wide receiver depth charts.

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Speaker 1: I think would have been unthinkable if you take a

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Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting when I started catching some wind

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Speaker 6: I don't believe we'd be talking about George Pickens if

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Speaker 3: One A, one B.

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Speaker 6: This is a guy that's going to be big bodied

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Speaker 6: I thought Brian Schottenheimer was all about the culture. Well

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Speaker 6: let's get into that with George Pickens. You know when

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Speaker 4: Is the deal?

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Speaker 6: What is the real skinny on this Because a lot

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Speaker 6: The word I always used is there needs to be

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Speaker 6: no different than a lot of wide receivers out there.

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Speaker 6: But it's my understanding he had a great relationship with

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Speaker 6: Then you pair him with Javonte Williams Jaden Blue. I

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Speaker 6: They've made a point of emphasis about building up this leadership.

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Speaker 6: They've always had the Leadership Council in Dallas. But the

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Speaker 6: I think the one thing that sets Shoddy apart, and

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Speaker 6: he's a really great communicator, and I think wide receivers

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Speaker 1: As we look at this from the Steelers perspective, Jing

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Speaker 7: Well, just from a football standpoint, I think for Pittsburgh

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Speaker 7: it was addition by subtraction and not George Pickens the player,

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Speaker 7: because we've seen the flashes of brilliance there but also

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Speaker 7: But once that starts waning, and it's more of the

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Speaker 7: lack of production off the field from George Pickens that

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Speaker 7: I have heard, that's when things get bad for you.

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Speaker 4: No one has been able to put up with.

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Speaker 7: Production equal tolerance like Mike Tomlin particularly at the wide

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Speaker 7: So that's the worry, is that if Mike Tomlin has said,

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Speaker 7: trade George Pickens during the draft and that's why.

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Speaker 4: We are here where we are now with Dallas making

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Speaker 7: So I think for the Pittsburgh perspective, whoever is the quarterback,

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Speaker 7: you're back to square one again. Well, actually we just

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Speaker 6: if Mike Tomlin can't handle George Pickens, why would the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Who also saw the Browns and the Rams get extra

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Speaker 4: We're the first pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

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Speaker 5: The Tennessee Titans select Cameron Warren, quarterback Miami.

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Speaker 8: So the expected is now official and cam Ward comes

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Speaker 5: Cam Ward number one, pick number one, jersey, Warren Moon

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Speaker 5: giving him the permission to wear that jersey. Yes, Warren

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Speaker 5: Moon was with the Oilers. Came the Titans, you follow

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Speaker 5: Mark Ross and Jeffrey Toda tied for number one. In

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Speaker 5: talk about Rookie Minicamps twenty six Rookie mini Camps opening

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Speaker 5: up this weekend. Mark starting with you, you just saw

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, it's always amazing for the scouts

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Speaker 7: You have to handle the staff, you have to handle

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Speaker 7: So cam Ward I think will have to adjust and develop,

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Speaker 7: cam what's been interesting is they've got some veterans who

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Speaker 7: Really, all four of those guys get together and say, hey,

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Speaker 5: Cam Ward told the Titans during his pro day he

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Speaker 5: you go a wait. Hold on nine. Travis Hunter counts

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Speaker 4: He does. He does, and Mark talked about cam Ward.

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Speaker 9: But it feels like Travis Hunter is a quarterback coming

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Speaker 9: They're going to be treating him in his first rookie

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Speaker 5: We're talking about these rookie classes and I'm starting with

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Speaker 7: Yeah, talked about Cam war getting ready from day one.

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Speaker 7: Do we have to do the same thing with Tyler

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you really don't. You don't take him and make.

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Speaker 7: That draft overpassing over some other guys without saying, you

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Speaker 4: We really believe something in you.

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Speaker 7: New head coach Kellamore obviously probably had his finger tipped

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Speaker 4: So he has to make it work. He has to

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Speaker 7: He has to prepare him from day one to say

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Speaker 2: Mark what time it is.

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Speaker 4: And they love what he brings to this defense.

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Speaker 9: You can see him the nickel, you can see him outside.

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Speaker 9: They love his versatility and adding him to a defense

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Speaker 9: You can see him being super disruptive. But then it's

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Speaker 5: Mark Ross and Jeffrey Chada with all the information to

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Speaker 5: have you looking smart and your Rookie Minicamp tailgate and

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Speaker 5: if you are tailgating for Rookie Minniicamp, you're crazy.

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Speaker 2: We love you, but you're crazy.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Mark Ross, Jeffrey Chadia. Coming up next, Dallas

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Speaker 5: Goddard on a normal day probably would have been talked

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Speaker 5: about in the first segment of this show.

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen. We had the big news earlier.

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Speaker 5: On George Pickens, so we're gonna break down what happened

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Speaker 5: with Goddard and the Eagles today.

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Speaker 1: Dolphin's wide receiver Tyreek Hill announced on Instagram that his

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Speaker 1: second surgery has gone well. Looking a little bit like

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Speaker 1: the guy that got flipped off in that episode of

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Speaker 1: Signfel with Danny Tartible. Bottom line, second surgery, this was

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Speaker 1: pre planned. He was getting the hardware out of that

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Speaker 1: risk that he had surgically repaired.

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Speaker 2: All went well.

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Speaker 1: Still on track in terms of the timeline. The big

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Speaker 1: news of the day Steelers wide receiver George Pickins is

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Speaker 1: on his way out, now headed to the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: along with a twenty twenty seven sixth round pick in

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Speaker 1: exchange for a twenty twenty six third rounder and a

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven fifth. Dallas Cowboys now get their receiver

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Speaker 1: to play opposite Ceedee Lamb. These Steelers move on from

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Speaker 1: a player that frankly, his days were numbered once they

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Speaker 1: had made the trade earlier this offseason for DK Metcalf

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Speaker 1: not leaving the state of Pennsylvania, Dallas Goddard, who has

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Speaker 1: agreed to a reworked contract that keeps him in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. Mike Garafalo, this was a situation

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Speaker 1: where there were real trade conversations, Goddard's future up in

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Speaker 1: the air.

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Speaker 2: How they find a way to move forward together.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there were real trade conversations. So you said, well,

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Speaker 5: usually you want to trade a guy, you trade a guy,

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Speaker 5: or you cut a guy. Well, the Eagles had a

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Speaker 5: tight budget because they have to spend across the roster,

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Speaker 5: and you win Super Bowls, you draft good players, and

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Speaker 5: you spend a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of money in a lot of places.

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Speaker 5: So Dallas Goddard was in the area of fourteen million dollars.

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Speaker 5: He takes a couple of mil off of that, but

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Speaker 5: he gets it all now, it's fully guaranteed. He's got

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Speaker 5: some incentives to get close to that as well. He

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Speaker 5: did have the option of potentially exploring some places some

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Speaker 5: places elsewhere in a trade, but sounded like he preferred

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Speaker 5: to come back to the Eagles, even on a reworked salary,

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Speaker 5: rather than explore those other possibilities there. So Dallas Goddard

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Speaker 5: returns to the Eagles, where the coaches certainly.

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Speaker 2: Wanted him back.

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Speaker 4: He wanted to be back.

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Speaker 5: He wanted the chance to run it back with his

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Speaker 5: teammates and potentially defend this one with them. So that

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Speaker 5: is going to be the case with Dallas Goddard back

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Speaker 5: in Philadelphia, who didn't really draft a tight end high

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Speaker 5: enough to say, okay, we just cut him. Meanwhile, Mark Andrews,

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Speaker 5: we had sort of paired Andrews with Dallas Goddard and said,

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Speaker 5: these are two veteran tight ends who could be available

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Speaker 5: via trade and have salaries where they're at in the

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Speaker 5: last year of the deal. This one's a little different

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Speaker 5: because you've got Isaiah Likely there, and it still feels

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Speaker 5: like something has to give here.

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Speaker 2: With Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 5: My understanding is nothing is imminent, whether it's a contract extension,

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Speaker 5: a trade, or whatnot, but something still has to give

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Speaker 5: here because which tight end are you going to extend?

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Speaker 5: If you extend Likely, it means you're not going to

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Speaker 5: have Andrews for the long haul. So does he just

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Speaker 5: play out the final year of his contract? Do you

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Speaker 5: still try to find a suitor for him? If you

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Speaker 5: extend Andrews, what do you do with Likely? So there's

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Speaker 5: still a couple of moving parts there. But just like

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Speaker 5: Dallas Goddard, even though the Ravens are exploring trades or

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Speaker 5: all scenarios frankly and have, they still value Mark Andrews

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Speaker 5: and still would welcome him back for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: five seasons. So we'll see where this one goes. Again,

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Speaker 5: nothing imminent, but still keeping an eye on this one

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Speaker 5: after what happened with Dallas Gotter today and Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And is today proved just because it's May seven doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you still can't have blockbuster trades happening around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Ian no need to.

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Speaker 3: Trade for any of these guys, but you can have them.

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Speaker 3: You can sign them for any amount of money, well,

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Speaker 3: assuming they would take that amount of money. Here are

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Speaker 3: the top remaining free agents according to Greg Rosenthal's list

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Speaker 3: on NFL dot com. A Mai Cooper still a big

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Speaker 3: time receiver, obviously linked to I don't know. Let's just

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Speaker 3: say any team that might suddenly have a big time

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Speaker 3: receiver need today. Santa Samuel Aaron Rodgers still there. Who

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Speaker 3: better to break it all down than our good friend

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Chidia, who has an article on NFL dot com

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Speaker 3: breaking down the potential landing spots for some of the

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Speaker 3: top free agents. Jeff will start with one of the

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Speaker 3: best defensive backs still available, Asante Samuel Junior. Where does

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Speaker 3: he go?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's got some options out there because there are

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Speaker 9: teams that need quarterbacks like Miami. But I put him

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Speaker 9: with the forty nine ers and I go here because

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Speaker 9: they play a lot of his own defense, and Sante

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Speaker 9: Sande was a player who struggled with man coverage.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't very healthy last year. He missed five games.

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Speaker 9: But I think putting him with Robert Sala in a defense,

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Speaker 9: that's going to be easier for cornerbacks to play a

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Speaker 9: lot of his own coverage and not have to be

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Speaker 9: under a lot of pressure. This team lost three cornerbacks

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Speaker 9: from last year, so I think that's a good place

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Speaker 9: for him.

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Speaker 3: I like to call there. Okay, let's go to the

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Speaker 3: next one. Zadarius Smith, one of the star pass rushers

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Speaker 3: of the trade deadline, obviously got dealt in a big

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Speaker 3: deal to the Detroit Lines, which I broke. Congratulations to me.

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Speaker 3: What is the best fit as we look forward to

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Speaker 3: his free agency.

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Speaker 9: Well, a return of Detroit makes a lot of sense,

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Speaker 9: and they haven't closed the door on that, even though

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Speaker 9: they brought back Marcus Davenport from last year. I know

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Speaker 9: Zadarius Smith is thirty three, but he had forty pressures

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Speaker 9: in nine games last year, a twenty one percent pressure rate.

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Speaker 9: Adding more bodies to a team that had issue staying

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Speaker 9: healthy down the stretch, especially on defense.

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Speaker 4: Is not a bad thing.

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Speaker 9: Because you get Aiden Hutchinson back, you have Davenport, You're

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Speaker 9: bringing Smith to breathe that third body on defense as

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Speaker 9: an edge rusher.

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Speaker 4: Not a bad idea for the Lions, all right.

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Speaker 3: I talked about some of the big name receivers still available.

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Speaker 3: Marii Cooper I mentioned tell me about Keenan Allen because

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Speaker 3: this is the name obviously that came up today. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers suddenly have a hole in the receiver room trading

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf as we know, to the Dallas Cowboys. When

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Speaker 3: you break down Keenan Allen's best spot, tell me it

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Speaker 3: is the Steelers.

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Speaker 9: It's not the Steelers now because that information was not

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Speaker 9: available when I wrote this.

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Speaker 4: Columny in so I'm out with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 9: Give me, but they spent They got to use the

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Speaker 9: fourth overall pick last year on Marvin Harrison junior. He

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Speaker 9: showed a lot of flashes, but they need some help

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Speaker 9: to get him going. Bring in Keenan Allen, a proven

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Speaker 9: veteran who could help him grow play in the slot

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Speaker 9: for you. He quietly had seventy catches last year for

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Speaker 9: the Bears. I know it was a disaster over there offensively,

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Speaker 9: but he still showed that he can play some good

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Speaker 9: football for you and fortune.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have that many older receivers.

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Speaker 9: Bringing in Keenan Allen to that group with Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 9: could help them continue their rise back into playoff contention.

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Speaker 3: Now I know Keenan Allen when thrilled with the way

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Speaker 3: it ended when Chicago wasn't thrilled with the entire experience there.

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Speaker 3: This one would make sense if he's kind of entering

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Speaker 3: that time in his career where it's like he goes

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Speaker 3: from only worrying about his own performances being the star

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Speaker 3: receiver that he's been to helping the locker room, helping

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Speaker 3: the young guys would actually make a lot of sense

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Speaker 3: as far as transitioning to the next part of his career.

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Speaker 3: I like to fit there. You can read about this

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Speaker 3: and a lot more on NFL dot com slash Shedea

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Speaker 3: for more free agent Fitz Jeffrey, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 3: great stuff. As always, you.

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Speaker 1: Might have heard that Shora Sanders had a bit of

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Speaker 1: an unusual draft weekend, going all the way down to

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Speaker 1: the fifth round one hundred and forty fourth overall before

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns drafted him, and he celebrated with the

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Speaker 1: jig and a dip into the pool. Passing on him

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Speaker 1: repeatedly was well the entire league, but specifically one of

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Speaker 1: his mentors, Tom Brady, who had this to say about

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Speaker 1: Sanders on a podcast.

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Speaker 4: What happened Tom?

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Speaker 3: Why Why did he go so late in the.

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Speaker 4: Draft, and there's I it's a good question.

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Speaker 10: I was, I wouldn't have part of any evaluation process

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Speaker 10: or to get bailes otherwise.

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Speaker 4: No, No, everyone's got every you know.

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Speaker 10: That's the problem with media is everyone can just say

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Speaker 10: whatever they want. I actually texted Shador because I'm know

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Speaker 10: him very well, and I said, dude, like, whatever happens

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Speaker 10: wherever you go, Like that's your first day day two

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Speaker 10: matters more than the draft. I was one ninety nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: so who could speak on it better than me? Like

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Speaker 10: what that really means? Use it as motivation. You're going

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Speaker 10: to get your chances.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders. Tom Pelisero, Ian Rapport, Mike Gerrifulo,

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Speaker 1: and Mark Ross back with you.

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Speaker 4: Ian.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we know, okay about Tom Brady and his

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Speaker 1: role in the Raiders' organization beyond being a minority owner.

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis I said publicly part of the reason that

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Speaker 1: he was willing to give him the deal he did

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Speaker 1: was because Tom would be part of picking the next

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Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe training him. We know that John Spytech,

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Speaker 1: after they drafted a guy named Cam Miller out of

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Speaker 1: North Dakota State, came out and said Brady like the

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Speaker 1: way he threw it's a little bit far fetched, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: friend of the show, He's come on, we all love Tom.

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Speaker 2: Seems a little far fetched.

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Speaker 1: That they wouldn't ask him his opinion of somebody that

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Speaker 1: he's literally been working directly with four years, Sarah. But

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Speaker 1: when you hear Tom saying what he did right there

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Speaker 1: on the Impulsive podcast, what are you making?

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Speaker 3: Not too much? Just being totally honest. Now, I do

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Speaker 3: like the advice that he gave Shudor Sanders Treda, like

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Speaker 3: it your first day. That's good advice. And really where

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Speaker 3: you're drafted doesn't matter, except when you have to go

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Speaker 3: check your bank account. There's a lot less than there

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Speaker 3: would have been otherwise of you'd say, get drafted in

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Speaker 3: the first round. That's really where it matters. When you

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Speaker 3: get to a team, you get a chance to make

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Speaker 3: your mark, as Brady knows, as he's mentioned, probably better

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Speaker 3: than anyone. I mean, Brady and brock Perty are the

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Speaker 3: two ultimate laid round quarterback success stories. So yeah, he's right,

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Speaker 3: treat it like it as.

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Speaker 4: Your first day.

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Speaker 3: As far as Brady not being involved in the process,

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Speaker 3: I understand why he would say that, right because He

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Speaker 3: clearly has some friendliness with Shador Sanders, with the Sanders family,

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Speaker 3: Curly has worked with him. You're literally seeing right there.

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Speaker 3: Brady didn't want to be the one to say, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I was the guy who said that is

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Speaker 3: not the quarterback we want. I'm sure he was involved

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Speaker 3: that wants to make sure everyone knows he's not the guy,

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Speaker 3: which you know, with his title as sort of kind

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Speaker 3: of head of things, you don't always have to be

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Speaker 3: the guy making these selections. John spytest title is the

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Speaker 3: guy making the selections of Brady when it benefits him,

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Speaker 3: can just say, you know what, I was involved, which

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Speaker 3: is fine, but Raiders fans should probably know that all

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Speaker 3: of the good things that happen, Brady had.

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Speaker 4: A hand it bad things too.

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Speaker 1: Problem I would just say, if Gray wanted to be

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Speaker 1: the guy, all he has to do is walk in

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Speaker 1: and say I'm the guy.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Draft Shador Sanders as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. If he wanted to be involved,

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Speaker 1: I think that they would listen. Mark what we do know,

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Speaker 1: Shduorr Sanders is on the Cleveland Browns. He was a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick. There's not a lot of precedent for

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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick coming in and winning a starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback job coming out of camp. But this is not

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Speaker 1: your usual quarterback competition in Cleveland. What are you looking

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Speaker 1: at as we get set to begin rookie mini camp

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Speaker 1: on Friday in.

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Speaker 2: Burria with a couple of rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: Well, definitely it's different because we're going to keep creating

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Speaker 7: this media sensation. But much like what happened with the draft,

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Speaker 7: the teams had a different evaluation and the teams had

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Speaker 7: a different process. So in the Browns building, they're going

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Speaker 7: to have a different process and a different evaluation than

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Speaker 7: what we're going to keep talking about Shador and from henceforth,

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Speaker 7: it's Dylan Gabriel, the third round pick who's going to

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Speaker 7: get the first team reps and Shador Sanders the fifth

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Speaker 7: round pick wearing number twelve, not the number two, because

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Speaker 7: we don't do that for fifth round picks. Other people

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Speaker 7: get the priority all the numbers, and you go out

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Speaker 7: there and play based off of the first team reps

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Speaker 7: and the second team reps, and you go number two

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Speaker 7: behind Dylan in the drills and then you follow from there.

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Speaker 7: So the Browns are looking at it as all the

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Speaker 7: noise is out of here. He's not Shador Sanders, the

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Speaker 7: media sensation. He's Shador Sanders, a football player, the quarterback

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Speaker 7: that we took in the fifth round. But we also

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Speaker 7: took Della Gabriel, and he's going to get every opportunity

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Speaker 7: because it's very, very very rare, talking about rare things

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Speaker 7: to cut a third round pick, particularly a quarterback. So

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Speaker 7: from henceforth it's got to be all about football for Shador.

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Speaker 7: We'll keep doing the media stuff, but for him to

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Speaker 7: give himself the best chance, go ball out.

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Speaker 4: Shador.

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Speaker 5: Well, as we talked about this, it's like, if you're

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Speaker 5: talking about a quarterback, it's up here in the first

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Speaker 5: two rounds where there's the potential you're going to take

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Speaker 5: him to be a starter. If you don't see him

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Speaker 5: as that, then it just drops off right.

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Speaker 4: And then it kind of.

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Speaker 5: Goes to that abyss for a couple of rounds, and

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Speaker 5: then it comes back to wait a second, we're sitting

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Speaker 5: here in the fifth round. We've got a guy that's

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Speaker 5: got the potential to be that first or second round talent,

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Speaker 5: but just wasn't you know, the flavor for.

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Speaker 4: A lot of those teams involved.

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Speaker 5: So the Browns take them and say, like a number

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Speaker 5: of teams right, like all right, maybe now he'll realize,

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Speaker 5: all right, we got to put some work in, maybe

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Speaker 5: change the approach that he took in his meetings that

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Speaker 5: turned some teams off when he indicated like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 5: coming in, I'm your savior. You should do everything that

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Speaker 5: I kind of want to do, and teams saying no,

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Speaker 5: well we do things a certain way here. You got

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Speaker 5: to sort of fall in line with what we do.

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Speaker 5: So the brown say, well, we get him the fifth end.

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Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel's there. So this is the scenario where he's

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Speaker 5: got to earn his way up.

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Speaker 2: He's got to hurt his way past that guy.

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Speaker 5: Then he's got to hurn his way past the veterans

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Speaker 5: if he wants to get the football.

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Speaker 2: So this is how the Browns are kind of looking

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Speaker 2: at it. This is the start of it.

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Speaker 5: It's not an open mini camp where everybody goes to

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Speaker 5: get to watch, but training camp is going to be open.

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Speaker 5: Season is going to be open, and that's going to

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Speaker 5: be a lot of fun for the likes of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Door Sanders situation is one of one for

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Speaker 1: a variety of different reasons.

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Speaker 2: But if you want a recent comp.

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Speaker 1: Sam Howell three years ago was talked about as maybe

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Speaker 1: a borderline of potential surprise first round pick, second round,

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Speaker 1: probably a worse. He went down in the fifth, got

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Speaker 1: one starter as a rookie, and then year two he

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Speaker 1: got the full opportunity. Now it didn't work out obviously

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Speaker 1: in Washington because they went and drafted another guy who's

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Speaker 1: ended up being pretty good. But he got his opportunity.

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Speaker 1: That's a fifth round pick. It is possible for things

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Speaker 1: to fall that way. And you know, at that time too,

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Speaker 1: I would think that Sam Howell probably knew that he

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Speaker 1: was going to be facing more than Kenny Pickett and

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel to beat him out. Mark, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 11: This is really NFL doorsteps and I just tried to

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Speaker 2: The draft starts in Mobile. The twenty twenty five NFL.

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Speaker 1: Season will in a way start for the Rams in Maui.

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Speaker 1: We will explain next why the Rams are taking their

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Speaker 1: that's ahead on The Insiders our top story tonight. George

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Speaker 1: Pickens is soon to be officially a Dallas Cowboy, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers and Cowboys agreeing to terms within the past twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours on a trade sending Pickens to Dallas for

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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty six third round pick. The teams will

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Speaker 1: also flop late round picks in twenty twenty seven. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys get a dynamic playmaker, albeit one who is available

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Speaker 1: for a reason the Steelers he and I can't help.

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Speaker 1: But thinking too, beyond whatever issues there were in terms

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Speaker 1: of George Pickens and following rules and locker room dynamics

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, you also take away a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: for as talented as he is, may not be quite

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Speaker 1: the exacting type of a wide receiver that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: would prefer to play with. Here not necessarily a sign.

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Speaker 1: I've been told that they didn't call Rogers before this trade.

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Speaker 2: He's not signing off on.

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Speaker 1: Deals, but it would make sense to try to get

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Speaker 1: guys who he's going to know where they're going to

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Speaker 1: be on the field, because we've seen in the past

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers not a big fan of somebody be in

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Speaker 1: someplace they're not supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: No, not the biggest fan of that. It's been interesting

818
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Speaker 3: to me Tom that Aaron Rodgers has been throwing with

819
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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf, trying to build a rapport, trying to understand

820
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Speaker 3: where each other are, trying to really build that relationship.

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Speaker 3: To my knowledge, George Pickens has not been involved in

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Speaker 3: any of that, so I'd be surprised if Rogers is

823
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Speaker 3: surprised by this, and I think all of us knew

824
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Speaker 3: that Pickens was available and probably has been available for

825
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Speaker 3: some time. And really it would take a legit offer,

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Speaker 3: like a real offer to make that happen, and obviously

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Speaker 3: that ended up that ended up happening today. But the

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Speaker 3: fact that Rogers has beginning together with Metcalf and not

829
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Speaker 3: Pickens at least is instructive as far as what he thinks.

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Speaker 3: If you're looking for receivers that Aaron Rodgers actually knows,

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Speaker 3: I can think of a couple of former Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: targets who may or may not be available, and the

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Speaker 3: trade if Steelers wants to take some of the draft

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Speaker 3: picks send them to another team, I think they could

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Speaker 3: bring in of Aaron Rodgers' friend pretty easily.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I blisten until Rogers is done. Right, It's

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Speaker 5: not done, and he could still He talked about the

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Speaker 5: fact that he's entertained thoughts about retirement, so theoretically, if

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Speaker 5: it falls through and he doesn't wind up with the Steelers, well,

840
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Speaker 5: now they have that extra draft capital to potentially go

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Speaker 5: out and get somebody else. Because you can talk about

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Speaker 5: your confidence in Mason Rudolph that it's fine, but at

843
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Speaker 5: some point you've got to make a move for another veteran.

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins would be the first one that would come

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Speaker 5: to mind, but there will be other options. It makes

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Speaker 5: sense obviously for them to bring in potentially, so I

847
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Speaker 5: talked earlier in the show about all that draft capital

848
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Speaker 5: next year to move up in the draft. Might need

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Speaker 5: this at this point, Like you said, Ian, either to

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Speaker 5: go out and get targets or go out and get

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Speaker 5: a quarterback if it doesn't wind up being Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Big news on a May seventh and what should be

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Speaker 1: the slow time in the off season. Always remember there

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Speaker 1: is no slow time in the NFL, which is why

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Speaker 1: we are here every night. Some other news around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Bill's doing something cool and their continued commitment to CPR

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Speaker 1: and AED awareness. Bills players were trained in hands only

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Speaker 1: CPR this week. You can learn more and help them

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Speaker 1: for more information on that. Meanwhile, the New Orleans Saints

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Speaker 1: say good graduations to Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: May eighth is Cam Jordan Day, officially declared by the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans City Council for Cam's devotion to the city

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Speaker 1: and serving the committee the community. I'll have to have

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Speaker 1: NFL research double check this, but I believe this is

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Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's forty seventh season now with the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: Will the Rams are going on a little vacation to

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Speaker 1: work though. It is going to be their Maui camp.

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Speaker 1: You get it. It's like mini camp, but it's in Maui.

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Speaker 1: They've had a I guess study partnership since they moved

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Speaker 1: back to Los Angeles with the State of why building

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Speaker 1: a fan base there. I know that their front office

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Speaker 1: goes there for a while after the in the off

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Speaker 1: season to do some of their planning meetings and whatnot,

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Speaker 1: all of which raises the question ian does the insiders

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Speaker 1: have the budget to go live for Maui for three

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Speaker 1: days next month?

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Speaker 2: See what I got mean?

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Speaker 3: I would say, I would say this. I've been looking

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Speaker 3: on the internet. They've got a couple of nice hotels

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Speaker 3: right by where the Rams are going to be. It's

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Speaker 3: only like six or seven one hundred dollars and I

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Speaker 3: think that's fine. Plus the food there is great. If

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Speaker 3: you ever have like a shrimp truck it's the best

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Speaker 3: in Hawaii. Just like on a white paper place. This

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Speaker 3: is basically shrimp and rice, but no better meal on Earth.

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Speaker 3: Come me in. Insiders from Maui coming up in a

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Speaker 3: month or so. Maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 2: I have no describe change here.

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Speaker 5: I've got a collar stay, I've got some NFL Crucial

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Speaker 5: Catch and inspire change pins.

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Speaker 2: College. We gotta we gotta figure out. Maybe we'll just

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Speaker 2: make up.

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Speaker 4: We need make up.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of pins. We don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of budget. But that's that's kind of how it

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Speaker 1: goes on this show. Hey, we appreciate your old man.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow see it