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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 1: to walk the planet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure, here's a deal. He's a true icon in

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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet.

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Speaker 1: There's got a bed with a voice that sounds like

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Speaker 3: Be got to say, hey, let's do it, baby.

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Speaker 1: You God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for

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Speaker 1: a cameo. Fact of the matter is you are about

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Speaker 1: to embark on a transcendent experience that can only be

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Speaker 1: described as psychological nudity.

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Speaker 4: This is stu Goox and this is stupidity. Here we

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Speaker 4: go jump holding.

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Speaker 5: God bless March, Mike yea God bless March, and a

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Speaker 5: little bit of April.

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Speaker 4: A little bit of April.

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Speaker 5: The most important parts of it are in April, but

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Speaker 5: we only focus on March.

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Speaker 4: It's a weird thing we did. It is no but

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Speaker 4: it wasn't nice.

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Speaker 5: It really was for a moment, and you had a

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Speaker 5: couple of moments from the first round. Princeton obviously, and

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Speaker 5: their head coach is going to join us coming up

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Speaker 5: here in just a minute.

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited for that. Hopefully my internet connection.

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Speaker 5: We'll remain stable here because it's it's going in and

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Speaker 5: out here. So but Golick will join us for that,

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Speaker 5: and I'm excited. And then you had Furman and that

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Speaker 5: big shot. Your heart drops for the kid in Virginia

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Speaker 5: who just they had a time out.

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Speaker 4: He chucks the ball up in the air. He's a senior.

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Speaker 5: I hate those moments because as exciting as that game was,

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Speaker 5: the tough part is that kid will think about that

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Speaker 5: moment every day for the remainder of his life. Okay,

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Speaker 5: and he'll never do so with a smile. There won't

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Speaker 5: be a joke that will make him laugh.

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Speaker 4: From one of his teammates.

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Speaker 5: He will be stuck with that feeling for the rest

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Speaker 5: of his life, kind of like the feeling we have

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Speaker 5: is being Jet fans.

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Speaker 6: Do you have a moment like that too?

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Speaker 7: Broadcasting or athletic career, your d whatever, lacrosse career, do

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Speaker 7: you have one of those moments where you're like, you

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Speaker 7: know what, that is the thing I'm gonna remember the

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Speaker 7: most I have.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny from lacrosse. No, because the games

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Speaker 5: I played in. I had a decent college career. I

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Speaker 5: playing in games with enough stakes attached to them where

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Speaker 5: I would have have a moment like that, Like if

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Speaker 5: I did make a mistake in a Clark University lacrosse

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Speaker 5: my mistake, we ended up two and nine instead of three,

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Speaker 5: and you know three and eights. Okay, So I never

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Speaker 5: had one of those. I haven't broadcasting, so maybe I

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Speaker 5: can relate it to that. Have you ever heard of

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Speaker 5: the interview we did with Chuck Norris?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh this is great. This is the equivalent.

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Speaker 6: I would say.

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Speaker 5: I would say, you might want to laugh at me

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Speaker 5: that I have had a Hall of Fame radio career.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that me and dam we are going to walk

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Speaker 4: into the We're going to stroll into the Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame at some point, no argument, thank you.

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Speaker 5: And so I will tell you, in order to do that,

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Speaker 5: you've had to be interesting for twenty some odd years.

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Speaker 5: You've had to be funny, you've had to be self deprecating.

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Speaker 5: You've had so I have had millions of great radio moments,

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Speaker 5: millions of them restaurant reservations, weekend observations, moments with you,

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Speaker 5: Mikey C. Mike Gullick Junior that I will cherish forever. Okay,

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Speaker 5: that put a smile on my face. But the moment

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Speaker 5: that I think about when I think about my entire

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Speaker 5: radio career, the entire thing, the whole scope of it,

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Speaker 5: in its entirety, is the first question I asked to

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Speaker 5: Chuck Norris because Lebizard and I were doing Chuck Norris

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Speaker 5: jokes for weeks. Okay, you know the Chuck Norris jokes

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Speaker 5: and I think five days out we started promoting him,

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Speaker 5: doing the jokes, promoting him, doing the jokes, promoting him,

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Speaker 5: and the build up was so big, and our audience

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Speaker 5: was expecting so much from me and Dan and so Dan,

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Speaker 5: and you've listened to the show enough, Mikey to know this.

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Speaker 4: Dan usually drives the interviews.

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Speaker 5: He drives the show, and I thought this would also

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Speaker 5: I was not prepared, woefully unprepared for Dan doing this

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Speaker 5: to me. But I guess in sports and radio. You

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Speaker 5: always got to be prepared. I'm always telling my daughter,

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Speaker 5: have followed my own advice, be prepared. You never know

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Speaker 5: when Lebatar is gonna throw it to you for the

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Speaker 5: first question, because he's scared as fuck of Chuck Norris.

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Speaker 4: He choked too, and so he threw it to me.

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Speaker 5: And what came out of my mouth is the single

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Speaker 5: most embarrassing thing that I've ever said into a microphone

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Speaker 4: I can't, Mike.

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Speaker 5: I can't recreate it for you because it's impossible. The

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Speaker 5: words are jumbled, they don't make sense. I have no

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Speaker 5: words were something about Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 4: At a jeep.

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Speaker 6: Was his response.

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Speaker 5: He laughed at me, chucked it, okay, and so Leator

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Speaker 5: and I got mad at Lebotar because he's laughing at me.

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Speaker 4: Yet he choked. But you can't hear him choking. You

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Speaker 4: can hear me choking so bad. I wish we had it.

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Speaker 4: Go listen to it. You'll laugh at well.

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Speaker 5: I'll find it what you think afterwards. It's the worst.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, that's it. So that's it for me. I

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Speaker 5: imagine you haven't had any of those moments, right.

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Speaker 7: Uh, not pressing record on Chip Kelly until that was

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Speaker 6: That was recent. That was that was recent.

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Speaker 4: That's still sticking with you.

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Speaker 7: Huh listen, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, fucking move on, dude again.

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Speaker 6: I wish I could. It's not your fault. Makes out.

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Speaker 4: How's your bracket by the way, Uh.

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Speaker 6: It's it's all right, it's it survived the onslaught.

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Speaker 4: It has really Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I mean Virginia and the Sweet sixteen, but nothing.

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Speaker 6: That's about as bad as a cop for me. I

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Speaker 6: lost the Sweet sixteen team.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 5: It looks like as we're recording this, there's some games

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Speaker 5: going on right now, so it looks like there'll be

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Speaker 5: there'll be more upsets today.

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Speaker 4: Uh, this is uh, this is exciting.

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Speaker 5: Before we get to Mitch Anderson, who is the head

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Speaker 5: coach of Princeton, who is the biggest get in sports today,

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Speaker 5: and he really is. I would take him over Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: I would. I would, but speaking of disagree with you, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're right, I totally made that up.

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Speaker 5: I would take him right after Aaron Rodgers, though I'm

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Speaker 4: I would take Mercedes Lewis ahead of Aaron Rodgers. I would.

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Speaker 5: I would take Lewis one, Rogers two, and then I

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Speaker 5: think I would go with Bitch Henderson three. But that's

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Speaker 5: what makes this time of year so special, what Princeton

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Speaker 5: did against Arizona. But speaking of Aaron Rodgers, where are

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Speaker 5: you in the same place as you were? You know

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Speaker 5: a couple of days ago when I spoke to you,

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Speaker 5: you still feel confident.

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Speaker 6: I am.

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Speaker 7: I think it's gonna happen, and I think it's gonna

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Speaker 7: happen right around the draft.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what do you want to give up to get him?

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Speaker 5: I was the thirteenth thick in this year's draft going

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Speaker 5: to be an issue for you, Mike.

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Speaker 7: If they if they had to do it, I have not,

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Speaker 7: I would not be upset. I don't think they have

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Speaker 5: Right, So imagine you have the thirteenth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 5: You might use it on a safety. You might use

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Speaker 5: an offensive lineman. You were not a defensive end away

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Speaker 5: from winning a Super Bowl. You're not a safety away

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Speaker 4: You're a fucking.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback away from winning, from contending and possibly winning a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. And the quarterback wants to come play for

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Speaker 5: your team, give them the thirteenth pick and let's move

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Speaker 5: on enough.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I.

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Speaker 7: Don't think you give them the thirteenth pick if it

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Speaker 7: comes down, if you reach the line in the sand.

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Speaker 6: But until you reach the line in the sand, you

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Speaker 6: try and hold onto it. And there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 5: What if Aaron puts on his wish list do not

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Speaker 5: give away the thirteenth pick in the first.

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Speaker 6: D Well, then you hold on to it with both hands.

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Speaker 4: Should I go in? Should I ask garin?

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Speaker 5: If we can make some more demands before we get

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Speaker 5: this thing done?

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Speaker 6: Man, we could come up with some stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you could be a coach.

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Speaker 6: I should be a coach.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Do you want me to uh, he didn't tell me

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Speaker 5: to lose his number? I mean, do you want me

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Speaker 5: to reach out.

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Speaker 6: Throwing out there?

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Speaker 4: What would I do?

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Speaker 6: Let me do, let me do pregame hype stuff?

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Speaker 4: What would I do?

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Speaker 6: What would I mean? Play by play?

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Speaker 4: I have? But Bob was Shoosing's great at.

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Speaker 6: That Bob was Shooson's fantastic.

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Speaker 7: But you could be like an alternate broadcast with cursing

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Speaker 7: and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 6: I think it is.

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Speaker 5: You talk to the Jets about that, And by way,

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Speaker 5: I mean Aaron's got to talk to the Jets about that.

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Speaker 6: I'm just making it happen.

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Speaker 5: Maybe that's what Mercedes Lewis will do with me because

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Speaker 5: he can't play football anymore, but at least.

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Speaker 4: He'll be a part of the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: How about a weekly show with Aaron.

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Speaker 5: Well McAfee kind of has that, doesn't he Yeah, how

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Speaker 5: about a weekly show with Mercedes Lewis?

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Speaker 7: Listen only if we're going to trump Aaron right there?

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Speaker 4: Or bachtiar I might do a weekly show with Jordan Love.

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Speaker 6: Future Jet quarterback twenty years.

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Speaker 4: We should do well with Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 6: Now you're talking. Now you're talking.

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Speaker 4: It's got nothing else to do. He's free for the

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Speaker 4: next two to three years.

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Speaker 6: That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what

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Speaker 6: you ask Aaron for?

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Speaker 4: A weekly with Zach?

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Speaker 6: Yes, and he has to stand there and listen to

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Speaker 6: me parade him how.

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Speaker 2: Bad he is?

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Speaker 4: It is a really good idea.

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Speaker 5: We should try to do this stuff a weekly with

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Speaker 5: Zach Wilson so badly want we should just.

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Speaker 7: Do a show where every week we have Zach Wilson

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Speaker 5: Well, no, do we talk about how bad the organization is?

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Speaker 5: Like I think we gotta let him off the hook. Like, guys,

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Speaker 4: It's them. It's not you, it's them. Aaron just has

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Speaker 2: To overcome that.

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Speaker 4: That was all on it.

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Speaker 5: Lazard would be a good weekly show. By the way,

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Speaker 5: gas Man, you're giving a bad rap. Gas of the

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Speaker 4: He's not. He's still with us.

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Speaker 5: Appears so all right, So Rich Cote Tite breaking news

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Speaker 4: Let's get to Mitch Anderson.

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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think the only place to start is

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Speaker 3: What's going on? What's the emotion? Yeah, I just almost shock.

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, we just got to get it to three.

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Speaker 2: Said, do you guys have any idea what you just did?

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Speaker 3: And it had one of those even for us in

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Speaker 8: And when you get to the point of view, did

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Speaker 8: I'm just gonna flat out and ask this. They have

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Speaker 2: How the hell do you win the game? I don't know. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 2: you know the couple A couple of things stand out.

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Speaker 3: You know, they we turned them over thirteen times, they

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Speaker 3: didn't they took seven free throws, made for or missed

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Speaker 3: Around using our dull team as well posts I don't know,

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Speaker 2: The crowd got into it was right there for us

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Speaker 8: Now this was a game in the fifties, but talking

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Speaker 3: They did appreciate you asking, and you know, there were

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Speaker 3: But you know, we we measure in our program some

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Speaker 3: I just thought the last four minutes of the game

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Speaker 2: And you're right, it was a will. It was an

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Speaker 3: And we really talked all season about, look, you belong,

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Speaker 2: This is what we brought you here for, and behave

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Speaker 8: End of the game, what what were you talking about

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Speaker 3: A lot of it we were we led for such

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Speaker 8: As I said a couple of years ago, I won't

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Speaker 3: So how does that differ for you? This is a

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Speaker 2: And these guys they did that. So what does it

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Speaker 8: It's a third year in a row and a lot

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Speaker 3: I think the world is smaller for these kids. You know,

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Speaker 2: There's familiar transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: We don't have any transfers in our program, but we

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Speaker 2: You know, we know about that guy that they're watching

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Speaker 3: And then you know, neutral court one ten pm Pacific

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Speaker 2: But then it's like you enjoy that and you get

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Speaker 8: So I know, you you always scout the next the

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Speaker 6: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I tell you, we in the IVY League,

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Speaker 2: We're smiling while we're prepared.

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Speaker 5: But Coach, you guys are not content here right like

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at Missouri, laugh a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm certainly not laughing about Missouri.

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Speaker 2: They're really good. That's me.

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Speaker 4: I said that. You didn't say, I said, coach.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, no, I tell you we were fighting for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you really do. So what.

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Speaker 3: So I said, you know, you got a dream, You

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Speaker 2: And that was transition.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it NonStop, and I kind of was like, transition.

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Speaker 2: You know, you went.

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Speaker 8: I love your quote. You said, it may be an

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Speaker 3: You know, the kids, they they teach me a lot.

448
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 3: I think they teach us coaches quite a bit there.

449
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: They they they want and.

450
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: Expect this to happen to them.

451
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 3: I also think that they sometimes with perspective in time,

452
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: they'll realize how unique this really was, and but they

453
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: can hang on this for a long time.

454
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Speaker 4: Do they like to make you feel old, coach?

455
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, look at my hair. Yeah, the kids go,

456
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm gone completely great.

457
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 5: Do the kids go out of their way to try

458
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 5: to make you feel old?

459
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they.

460
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 3: You know, there's probably like like like an old man.

461
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: They're they're doing stuff that's just like going right over

462
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: the top of my head.

463
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: But uh, I don't know.

464
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: You can't laugh at yourself like your group, then you're

465
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: missing out on the best parts of coaching.

466
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: How many how many texts did you have after that? Game. Yeah,

467
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: I mean four hundred five hundred.

468
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 5: Who who's the best time? Like, give it, give us

469
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 5: a name, we would recognize. You got a text from

470
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Speaker 5: whom I've gotten.

471
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: I've gotten to be fairly close with Steve Kerr and he, uh,

472
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: he went to Arizona. He was like, you son of

473
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: a gun.

474
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, he was getting mostly Arizona text.

475
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Speaker 4: Now.

476
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 8: Now, now I would imagine, I would imagine now for

477
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 8: the Princeton faithful, the expectations have now risen greatly right

478
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 8: after getting through this game, right, I have it.

479
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: We would have it no other way, Mike. And you know,

480
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 3: one really cool thing about working being at Princeton is

481
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: you know, these these parents and trust us with their

482
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: kids all over from all over the globe and uh

483
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: and it's a life changing experience. And my parents did

484
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: that for me, and I'm forever grateful for it. This

485
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: really is expectations go up, but it really is a

486
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: life changing experience for our for our student athletes.

487
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: Coach, just a couple of things.

488
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 5: First off, thank you for knocking Aaron Rodgers out of

489
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 5: the headlines just.

490
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 4: For a minute, for a moment, we forgot about Aaron Rodgers.

491
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: For a moment. We forgot about the New York Jets.

492
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: So thank you for that. You're aware of that, right you.

493
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 5: Begin the biggest story in sports, bigger than Aaron Rodgers,

494
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: that has to feel.

495
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: We've got a diehard Jets fan on our team named

496
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: Zach Martini.

497
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: And he was like yesterday morning.

498
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 3: He was going on and on and I don't know

499
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 3: after that conference where he was and whatever, but yeah,

500
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a lawyer.

501
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 4: Well listen that that is it. Tell him we said hello,

502
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 4: and that's a typical Jet fan.

503
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 5: We have nothing to say for forty years we get

504
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, we won't stop talking. What I'm wondering as

505
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 5: coaching having the real kind of influence on you, I'm

506
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 5: just kind of just having it around that program, in

507
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 5: the school. What have you like, what what have you

508
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 5: learned most from from him? And from that feeling that's

509
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 5: around this program and around that school.

510
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: From from coach Caroll. Yeah. So I remember distinctly as

511
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: we prepared to play U C.

512
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 8: L A.

513
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: And he would say this all the time.

514
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 3: He says, I'm preparing you to win the game, right,

515
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: and we would change how to win and when the

516
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: ball went up for the tip, all five of us

517
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: ran back on defense because coach said, you're not getting it,

518
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 3: you might as well run back. And I take that

519
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: to heart. I think that I thought we played to win.

520
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: So that's the first thing. Second would be what do

521
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: you see? And I use these words a lot with coach,

522
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: but teaching the guys to see the game unfold. And

523
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 3: we've we've taken sort of our guy toast on kind

524
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: of a passing center and and holded it to you know,

525
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: and and that's that's the way we like to play,

526
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: is what are you doing in every possession to make

527
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: each other better? That that was really coaching a nutshell,

528
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: and we've modernized it, of course, but that's that's what

529
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: you know.

530
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: He'd be so happy for the group.

531
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Speaker 4: How do you match up with Missouri? How do you

532
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: feel like you match up?

533
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean, they're that's the They're tough. And we we've

534
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: got in Cornell in our league is like full court

535
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: pressed the whole game. It's like, uh, it's a crazy

536
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: town USA. So I don't know that that's it's gonna

537
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: be a We have some time to prepare for it here,

538
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: you know, to watch the video. But I always say

539
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: that they've got to guard us too, so it'll be

540
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: a tough one.

541
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: Everybody at this point really good, but we got to

542
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: make them guard us.

543
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 5: So I have some friends who went to Princeton right

544
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 5: around the time that you went to Princeton. Brian Tomio, Tourmorrow,

545
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 5: Todd Higgins, guys who played lacrosse.

546
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: And one of my friends told me to ask you.

547
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: They know this.

548
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 5: You have a four point five great point average from

549
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 5: Princeton with a degree in economics.

550
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: What the hell are you doing coaching?

551
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: I have that is a really nice that is about

552
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: two points away from where I was full points, not

553
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 3: even close.

554
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 5: They said, they said you had a four or five

555
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 5: coach graduated with honors.

556
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: No way, but I'm not gonna deny that one too hard.

557
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: I tell you when I when I wanted to get

558
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 3: into coaching, Bill Carmody, who I ended up working for Northwestern,

559
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: He's like don't He's like, don't do it. Yeah, Look

560
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: this is We lost to Yale four weeks ago. We

561
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 3: were up eighteen and it was about as low as

562
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: I've been ever, and I was just like, oh my gosh,

563
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: I can't believe this. And then you, you know, you

564
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 3: have a moment like yesterday and I think you have

565
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: to appreciate the roller coaster, the low moments in the

566
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: high moments, and try to stay fairly even keeled. But

567
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm forever thankful for my Princeton relationships, and I'm I've

568
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: just always wanted to be a good steward here.

569
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Speaker 8: What I think is cool is for all of us

570
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 8: we look at this as a game on our sheet

571
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 8: and we're like, oh wow, huge upset, and then we

572
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 8: move on to the next one where you guys, now,

573
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 8: I'm sure are confident in making a run. It's almost

574
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 8: like the number fifteen. Besides, your name doesn't mean a

575
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 8: damn thing, you know, and you feel you're right there

576
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 8: with everybody. Am I in the right train of thought there?

577
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

578
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, you have to be exactly what

579
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: got you here, and we feel perfectly capable of making

580
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: another getting that playing well to again tomorrow. And I

581
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: know this is going to sound crazy, but you just

582
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: got to be good enough to win six games. And

583
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: I know that there's a lot of talent out there,

584
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: but these neutral courts, it's totally different. And you're playing

585
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 3: in a place like Sacramento where they appreciate good basketball,

586
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: anything can happen it doesn't sound crazy.

587
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: Did you, like, was there was there ever a moment there?

588
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 5: And I'm certain your answer is going to be no,

589
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 5: But was there a moment there where even you kind

590
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 5: of doubted, like, hey, there's no way we're coming back

591
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: from this deficit second Africa.

592
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I used my timeouts.

593
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: I was like, lett, we're not letting it get to

594
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: to back to ten.

595
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we were down ten.

596
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: With maybe eight minutes left, maybe ten minutes left, and uh,

597
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not I wasn't doubtful, but I I

598
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: just was. I was hopeful that we could just get

599
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: it to to and.

600
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: Then the crowd I thought.

601
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: You know that UCLA was in the gym too, right,

602
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: so you got that pack twelve thing going there, stort

603
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: pulling for you. I don't know we went. We didn't

604
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: leave until a minute left in the game. You I

605
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: don't know even now. I mean, I'm sort of like,

606
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is great. I can't believe I'm

607
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: talking to you guys.

608
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 9: More so, you know along there's because you sent me

609
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 9: a couple of times and you could explain it, so

610
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 9: you know, people really understand because we always are so

611
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 9: used to seeing at the end of games timeouts used,

612
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 9: and you've mentioned a couple of times, I'm out of it.

613
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 8: I'm on a timeout with six minutes to go, and

614
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 8: you were right with eight minutes they were you trailed

615
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 8: by ten, So six minutes you're on a timeout. How

616
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 8: tough is that for a coach when you sture as

617
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 8: hell would like the call one later on in the game,

618
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 8: but you know you got hant.

619
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: I found it quite freeing actually, because you're always thinking

620
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: that should I use my time out? What do I

621
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: have in store? And also they switched everything defensively in

622
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: they're huge. The kid bow hello on the ball, so

623
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: it wasn't like, you know, I know, you come on,

624
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm not that smart of that. Many good plays lined

625
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: up for baseliner, sideline stuff, so I was like, you know,

626
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: let's just play.

627
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, coach, listen, we we We do appreciate

628
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 8: your time. I know what you're the day off and

629
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 8: I'm sure you're still doing all your scouting on Missouri

630
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 8: and I know your players have have enjoyed it. But

631
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 8: I know that, as you mentioned, you're used to back

632
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 8: to back, so this is kind of a leisure day

633
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 8: for them with something they're not used to, so best

634
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 8: of luck.

635
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: And we hope that thanks a lot.

636
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan. I appreciate being being able to

637
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: spend some time with both of you guys.

638
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much, Coach, Coach, keep it going.

639
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: We want to if you're such huge fans, we'd like

640
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: to talk to you again next week. And I will

641
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: talk to you again next week. I'll spread all week

642
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 5: with you, guys. Listen, We'll go as far as you go.

643
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: That's the deal, all right, all right, I love it. Thanks,

644
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: thanks so awesome. March, Mike, I love March.

645
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: Nothing better.

646
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 8: That Furman game though, was the game I picked Furman

647
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 8: on my sheet, Mike.

648
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: Here's what I hate about those particular games. Okay, as

649
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 5: exciting as it was, and I actually had you had

650
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: it on your sheet sheet or one of your other

651
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: thousand sheets.

652
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

653
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 8: Now, here's what I'll do throughout this, because you know

654
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 8: you can cut off the tape on this. I'm gonna

655
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 8: say I had fifteen sheets, but I only really filled

656
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 8: out one and put it in.

657
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: I put in Mike's thing, but I didn't pick Farman.

658
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm on the one sheet I picked. I did pick Furman,

659
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: but normally your wife.

660
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 8: I never brag about upsets when I when I literally

661
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 8: picked ten or fifteen sheets, I didn't care about upsets.

662
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: I just cared about, you know, winning with the pool,

663
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: so that was it.

664
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Speaker 5: I understand what I hate about those games and those

665
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 5: moments is as great of a game as that was,

666
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: and I was happy that I too, was right taking

667
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 5: Furman as well in one of my fourteen sheets. I

668
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Speaker 5: hate those moments where you have a kid who's going

669
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 5: to have to sit with that and think about that

670
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 5: moment for the rest of his life. Not a day

671
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: will go by where he will not think about how

672
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: he blew that game for Virginia. And he was a

673
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: key component, a key part of the team that won

674
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 5: the national championship just a couple of years ago, made

675
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: several big plays. But the thing he'll think about first

676
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 5: and most Mike, when he thinks back on his college

677
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: career is that moment, because it's so painful to him.

678
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: He's always think about the worst moment, not that, not

679
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: the best moment. That that.

680
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 8: That's when when I'm always asked about my worst moment

681
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 8: in sports, it's losing in high school at the state

682
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 8: wrestling championships and I took third and I should have

683
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 8: taken first. But you know, but Lonamok wrestled better than

684
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 8: I did. You know in the matter, and that there

685
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 8: is there is no second place. That it is that

686
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 8: moment of my sports Scrit's not a great moment, it's

687
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 8: a it's a and that's what players remember.

688
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: They remember the down.

689
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 8: Moments and they stick with you so much longer than

690
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 8: the good moments.

691
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: It's it's like, uh, listen, it's no different radio. Like

692
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 5: the first question I asked Chuck Norris in an interview

693
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 5: that Dan and I did, it's the worst question ever

694
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: asked in the history of radio. I made a thousand

695
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: good jokes. I've made a thousand decent points. But that's

696
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 5: the one thing when people say radio career, the first

697
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 5: thing I think of is how I blew the Chuck

698
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 5: Norris interview.

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00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 8: Just it's just because you want to do everything right

700
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 8: and always make the right play or do the right

701
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 8: right it have a great interview, and when you're doing

702
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 8: it sticks in your car. It just it just does,

703
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 8: and you're right, And it's a shame for that kid.

704
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 8: But now he was part of a title team, so

705
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 8: that that certainly helps. He's the pain a little bit

706
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 8: that you got to ring, but that moment, you're right,

707
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 8: we'll be sucking his call for a long time.

708
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: Mike.

709
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: You know what's interesting, the game has changed a lot

710
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 5: the players.

711
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: There's parody now.

712
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, a lot of players skip college, goes

713
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: straight to the pros, a lot or want it done.

714
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: It doesn't change, It does not change.

715
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: With the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament, feels

716
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 5: like because the upsets are just so amazing, it never fails.

717
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: Noliver ever, never ever fails to deliver.

718
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 8: And it seems like we get caught up on the

719
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 8: numbers and or the size of the school too much

720
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 8: because like I said, it's a third year in a row,

721
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 8: A fifteen is beating the two and again the eleven

722
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 8: time overall, so it's happening more now. And you heard

723
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 8: coach say, I mean there is more parody. These kids

724
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 8: go to the same you know, the AAUS, you know

725
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 8: in sneaker deals, in camps and this and that, so

726
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 8: there is there can be more parody.

727
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: They know about these players more when they're facing them.

728
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 8: So it's almost like we're still believing in the number

729
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 8: A lot, right when you know how many times every

730
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 8: year you know you're going to see at least one,

731
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 8: maybe two twelves be to five. So you know, it's

732
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 8: almost it's almost like we're believing in the numbers too

733
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 8: much anymore.

734
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And as we speak again, as we're doing this,

735
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: it looks like Michigan State is going to beat USC

736
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 5: and so and I think, listen, unless you're a USC fan,

737
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: you have to be rooting for tom Izzoa Michigan State

738
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: with everything that's happened at that school.

739
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: So I see on my sheet.

740
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: So and we had listened another fifteen that has to win.

741
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 5: Mikey as Vermont because we had their coach on earlier

742
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: this week, and he and I are going to a

743
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: dead show together, so.

744
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: Oh, we need that to happen.

745
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 5: Then, yes, guaranteed, Yes, this is so great for my dad.

746
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 5: But dad, he was supposed to partake. But Dad was

747
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 5: supposed to be involved in that interview. He graduated from Uvin.

748
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: My brother went there, his son went there, My entire

749
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: family went there except for me. My dad couldn't make

750
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: it that day. But what he told me to tell coach,

751
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: don't ask him. He told me to tell him my

752
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 5: dad's eighty two. He didn't give a shit any Like,

753
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: he said, Coach, I'm tired of You're great at getting

754
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: to the dance. When we get there, can we actually dance?

755
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 5: That's what my dad wanted me to tell him, and

756
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 5: I did, and the coach that I'll do my best.

757
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 8: Wow, Wow, you're right to the filter's gone you You

758
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 8: just speak your mind.

759
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 5: I feel like he wanted to punch me in the

760
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 5: face when I delivered that message. But had my dad

761
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 5: delivered it, he would have he would have laughed, and

762
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 5: he would have laughed him.

763
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, Steward's just another day when somebody wants to

764
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 8: punch you in the face.

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00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm also all.

766
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 5: Right, Mike, let's go enjoy the rest of the first year.

767
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 5: Good games going on right now again. Kennesaw State up

768
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: Bay Michigan State is gonna win here. So uh, that's

769
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 5: a couple of field good stories and we'll uh, we'll

770
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: root for Vermont. Uh who tips off here in about

771
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: an hour. So, Mike, thanks for jumping in here. March Madness,

772
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 5: it's the best, man.

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00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: It is the God bless March Madness.

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00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: Yes, God bless March and a little bit of April,