1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: The way I look at it is when it's all 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: said and done for me, when I'm done being here, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: I want my kids to know that I did everything 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: I possibly could learning from the experience that we lived 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: with Ariana, and I gave back to everything that gave 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: to us. So the way I look at it is, 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: I've dedicated my career to the organization that gave us 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: so much hope and so much care for my daughter, 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: that gave us an extra five years that we went 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: to God elsewhere, and I will forever feel indebted to 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Saint Jude. 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: For the Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: Bill Courtney. I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: a father, I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: coach an inner city Memphis and the last part it 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: unintentionally led to an ash for the film about our team. 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: It's called Undefeated. I believe our country's problems will never 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: be solved by a bunch of fancy people in nice 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: suits using big words that nobody understands on CNN and Fox, 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: but rather an army of normal folks, us just you 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: and me deciding Hey, I can help. That's what Enrique. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: The voice we just heard is done at three years old, 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: his daughter Arianna was diagnosed with an incredibly rare brain 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: cancer and they were originally told that she wouldn't make 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: it to her fourth birthday. Thanks to Saint Jude Children's 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Research Hospital, Arianna got four more years than that, and 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: Enrique is so grateful that after she passed, he decided 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: to go to work for Saint Jude. The episode is 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: being released during Childhood Cancer Awareness Month in September, and 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to hear Enrique tell his 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: story about his perspective in his own words, right after 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: these brief messages from our general sponsors to respect the 33 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: privacy of patients and their families. At Saint Jude will 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: only be using Enrique's first name this episode. His parents 35 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: are immigrants from Mexico, and Enrique was born and bred 36 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: in El Paso, Texas. I asked him what his parents 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: did for work, and Enrique started with his father. 38 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: You know, he worked at factories, and he worked at 39 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: a utility. He used to paint trucks for a while 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and then I think the 41 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: longest job he had that I remember was working at 42 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: Eureka Eureko vacuum cleaners. So my mom, you know, she 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: did like sewing and stuff in factories, so she worked 44 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: at Lee Lee Jeans. She worked there for a long time. 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: So two parents at home, working hard, but blue collar family, 46 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: I assume immigrated to the States to have a better 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 2: life for themselves than their children, and we were part 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: of that. 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to I got to live that Mexican 50 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: American dream if you will, you know what is that? 51 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: What is that Mexican American dream? Uh? 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Just you know when your parents, when you get to 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: see your parents come and live in a better life 54 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: and you still have family that you get to go 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: visit regularly, especially growing up in a border town where 56 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: he'll passo and what is are essentially one town, right, 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: It's split just by a bridge, like West Memphis and 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: memphiss Uh. So we used to drive over and see 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: my grandparents and my aunts and you know all the time. 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: So you do see the separation and lifestyles and the 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: culture that you did come from and the you know, 62 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: the lifestyle that your parents are chasing. And I joined 63 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: the Navy when I was twenty after failing out of 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: college twice. 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: You felt college fies. I didn't know that. What was 66 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: that all about? What'd you what were you majoring in? 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: What'd you do? 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Uh like computer graphic design or something. So I tried 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: going to school. 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: I don't evenputer graphic design or something. And I can 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: see that you had a lot of commitment to Yeah. 72 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean I got to school in Phoenix. 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Wit where Arizona State. 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona State, and I failed out. I mean the 75 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: first semester I found a fraternity and partied my butt 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: off and that's all I cared to do, and then 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: failed out. So I moved back home and I tried 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: going to the community college in Opaso and again just 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: partied out. 80 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: For those who don't know, there's a lot of partying 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: to be done at ASU. Oh yeah, issues. 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Off the hook, Yeah a lot. Fortunately around that time. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: I met my wife at ASHU right. 84 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: Before I left in Phoenix, and then I ended up 85 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: you know, we ended up starting dating and you know, 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: friends first dating and then married a few years later. 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I moved back to Opasso, failed out 88 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: of that. 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: And this was in two thousand and what. 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: This was two thousand and one, So I failed out 91 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: right before or right around the time, I'm of September eleventh, 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: So you. 93 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: Were living at home. Your parents were trying to provide 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: you this American dream. 95 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: And I was just screwing it up. 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: Do you go to high school? Went to SU and 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: did up the American dream, which wasn't exactly the dream 98 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: your parents are probably thinking of. You come home. Community 99 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: college doesn't get it for you, and the plan sit 100 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: the buildings, and so now your version of the American 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 2: dream changers it did. 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: So that happened September and I remember, all right, So 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: not to hit stereotypes here, but so I grew up 104 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: around three cousins because, like I said, I'm eight years 105 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: older than my brother. So I grew up around cousins 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: that I looked at as brothers. And they got three 107 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: of them, and it's, you know, my mom's sister's kids. 108 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: So I grew up with them, and it was them 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: that we were always together, partying and doing our stuff. 110 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: And two of them in Opasso, it's super easy for 111 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: a lot of teenagers and a lot of kids to 112 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: get involved in trying to cross over drugs illegally, and 113 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: two of my cousins, two of them got caught doing that. 114 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: So the older one went first. And then what is 115 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: the draw to that? 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: Is it money? 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? Just quick money. You know they they pay you 118 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: money to cross a car over and you know you 119 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: get paid. 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be real, cross a car over with contra. 121 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: Band, Yeah, with contraband, and you know, but so two 122 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: of them got caught. And then so now me and 123 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: my other cousin, Caesar, are left while two of them 124 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: are in prison, and we're just we have nothing. He's 125 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: in job corps because he dropped out of school, and 126 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: me I just failed out of community college. 127 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: Now, and I can I ask you something? What are 128 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: your parents thinking? They they left Mexico seeking a better life. 129 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: Your dad's work in a factory, your mom's a seamstress. 130 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: It sounds like they're working eight hard hours a day 131 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: to provide this life. And clearly your mom's sister is 132 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: the same. And then even with all of that parental 133 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: involvement and love and effort and blue collar hard work 134 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: to chase that American dream, there's still issues, you know 135 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: that normal people have. But do you have you ever 136 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: talked with your parents about that? I mean, what was 137 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: going on inside of them? 138 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: I've talked with my mom more about it, and she 139 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: just said, you know, she says that it was disappointing 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: just because I wasn't kickstarting my life. 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: You know. 142 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I was, like, I said, twenty years old. I had 143 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: just turned twenty in September, and then September eleventh happened, 144 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and I remember, I remember the exact conversation, so like 145 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: it was in November. My cousin, Caesar, who's the middle 146 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: brother of the three, like I said, he was in 147 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: job Corp because he failed out. So at job Corps 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: you had recruiters come and talk to them, and he 149 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: ended up signing up for the Navy. And I remember 150 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: I was laying in bed. I mean it had to 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: have been like twelve or one in the afternoon, and 152 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: my dad walks in and he's like, guess what Caesar 153 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: just did? And I'm like, he got caught on the 154 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: bridge too. 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: You know, and guess what Caesar just did. 156 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: I was like, he got arrested too, you know, and 157 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: he's like he's on no, He's like, he just he 158 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: just joined the Navy. And I was like, man, he's 159 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: so stupid. I was like, we're about to go into 160 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: World War three, you know, and uh, coincidentally, at that time. 161 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: He didn't have a car, so I had the car, 162 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: so I had to take him to his recruiter meetings. 163 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: And when I would take him, I would sit with 164 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: the recruiter outside and just chat with him. Uh. Little 165 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: did I know that he was reeling me in. But 166 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I remember, I'm gonna give you the best recruiter sales pitch, 167 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: so he so he starts talking to me. My cousin 168 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: goes to these meetings once a month. 169 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: The recruiter okay, and he. 170 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, every time i'd go, he'd sit out there 171 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: and chat with me and at his desk, and he 172 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: would tell me about these West packs and he'd show 173 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: me coins and postcards and pictures, and I would just 174 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: I was like, man, this sounds awesome, right. And finally 175 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: one day he asked me, He's like, what are you 176 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: going to do with your life? 177 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: You know? 178 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: And you know, Passo is a big army town because 179 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: we have Fort Bliss. So in my head at that point, 180 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: I was already thinking like, well, maybe I'll just join 181 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: the army and find my way back to a Passo 182 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: at some point. And so he asked me, he's like, 183 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with your life? And he's like, 184 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I think. I think I'm gonna join the army. And 185 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: he's like, he's like, why do you want to join 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: the army? And I was like, well, to you know, 187 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: travel the world. And then he said okay. He's like, 188 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: so do you want to join the army or do 189 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: you want to travel the world and see every desert 190 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: in the world or do you want to travel the 191 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: world and see every beach in the world. And I 192 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: was like, beach. So yeah, it was like, oh, beach 193 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: sounds better. He's like, well, you can't pull a you 194 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: can't pull a ship in unless there's a beach. And 195 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, you are absolutely right. He's like, so what 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: do you want to do. I was like, I think 197 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna join the Navy. And he's like he's like, okay, 198 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: so what do you want to do? And I was like, 199 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to do anything. I 200 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: just want to go on these westpacs that you're talking about. 201 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: So I took my ASVAB and I ended up being 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: a personnel specialist, so I did personnel work. But yeah, 203 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: so that's how I got reeled in into the Navy. 204 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: It was my cousin's idea. And I remember when I 205 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: went to boot camp April two thousand and two, so 206 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: I got in trouble right before, right after I joined, 207 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: and I ended up losing our buddy program because of 208 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: some stuff that I did that I shouldn't have done. 209 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: So what ended up happening was my recruit was like, okay, 210 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: you're on like a forty five day suspension from this 211 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: recruiting program. He's like, after we'll sign you back up. 212 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: He's like, but you're probably gonna lose the buddy program 213 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: and you'll probably have to either go first or go 214 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: after your cousin. And I was like all right. So 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: we got all the paperwork worked out, and then I 216 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: had to go before my cousin. So I was two 217 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: weeks ahead of my cousin now. And I remember before 218 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: I left, we sat down with my recruiter and he said, 219 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: he said, go to church every Sunday. He's like, that 220 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: is the only place they can't mess with you at 221 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: boot camp. He's just go to church and look for 222 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: each other there. And I was like okay, So every 223 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: Sunday I was going to church looking for my cousins 224 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: or looking for my cousin Caesar and That first week 225 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: is the toughest week at boot camp because once you're 226 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: in a routine, you don't even feel it anymore. But 227 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: that first week, when you're on five hours of sleep 228 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: for that week and you know, cause they're processing through medical, 229 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: DENTO and all your background checks, that's the craziest and 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: hardest week. And that's when they beat you down. And 231 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: that first Sunday they ask you before they allow you 232 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: to go to church. They ask you like, hey, you know, 233 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: if you want to go home, take today and let 234 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: us know and then you can go home after after today, 235 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: no harm, no foul, will send you back home. He's like, 236 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: but if this is someone want to do, you can 237 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: want to quit. Yeah, this is this is the day 238 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: to quit. 239 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: This is last deal. 240 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: So me, I had to stay and wait for my cousin, right, 241 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: so you know, that week passes for me and then 242 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: now I see my cousin. I'm at church. I finally 243 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: find him and he is like he is destroyed. Like 244 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: he's like yeah, he is face down sad, and I'm 245 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: just like he's like, uh, we sit down at church. 246 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're good, dude. He's like he's yeah, He's 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: like this is just crazy, you know, And I'm like, 248 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's gonna be all right. He's like, he's 249 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go home. I was like, this 250 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: was your idea. I was like absolutely. I had a 251 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: lot of choice words for him, and I ended up 252 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: talking to him out of wanting to go home. But 253 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: I was like, this is not happening, Like you're staying, dude. 254 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: And then do you both get through? You get through? 255 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we both get through. 256 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: And you said your fo the first time you ever 257 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: saw him cry was having. 258 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: A new Bootcat graduation. 259 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I have four children, and there's probably 260 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 2: nothing I wouldn't do for him, although all four of 261 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: them are complete idiots and they drive me crazy and 262 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: have been extraordinarily expensive, and they are and they're twenty eight, 263 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty six, and twenty five, so they're adults, right, 264 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't do anything in the world form. I 265 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: would do anything in the world form. And you know, 266 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: your parents did a lot for you. And I bet 267 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: when they see you come home from ASU and they 268 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: see you laying around it bed from twelve to one 269 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: and the cousins get arrested, your dad had to have 270 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: been proud, but also had to have been relieved. You know, 271 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: he had to be like it was all worth it, 272 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: He's gonna be okay, which I think is a beautiful thing. 273 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: But I think I think that's what all of our 274 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: all of us as parents just want, is for kids 275 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: to be okay and to be relieved. And the irony 276 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: of that story is you spend your life around parents 277 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: who aren't going to have that relief, which we'll talk 278 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: about in a little bit. Tell me where'd you go station? 279 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: What'd you do? Where'd you run off to? 280 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: So? My first duty station, so I went to school. 281 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: I went to a school here in Meridian, Mississippi. That 282 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: was my first taste of the South. 283 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: And then. 284 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, all they had was a mall. And then my 285 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: first duty station was in Bremerton, Washington, on the USS 286 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Carl Vincent. It's an aircraft carrier. 287 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: That's so cool. So how many people are on that thing? 288 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: Like three thousand? 289 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: About three thousand ships company? And then when you bring 290 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: the airwing on, you're looking at anywhere between five and 291 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: six thousand. 292 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: That's a floating city. It is, it really is. And 293 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: you're in charge of you're in the personnel. 294 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: De Bok I'm in the personnel office. Yeah, just working 295 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: on administrative struff, issuing IDs, entering qualifications, making sure people's 296 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: pay or you know, people are getting paid. I think 297 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: it's the most important job in the Navy. 298 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. If people don't get paid, they're pretty upset. 299 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: That's what I used to always tell people. 300 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: So this girl you met at ASUS, Well, there's two 301 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: questions I have. One is at some point you decided 302 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this for two and a half years 303 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: of moving on, I'm gonna do this long term. And 304 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: at some point you moved the girl out of ASU 305 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: into the Navy white position. So how how did all 306 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: that develop? 307 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: So I met Ladisia Latisa was a party animal, just 308 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: like me. Oh so we met at a club. Nothing 309 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: wrong with that, near it. She's in Tempe, she was, 310 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: She's from Scottsdale. But yeah, so I met her at 311 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: a nightclub. It was actually a twenty one in underclub. 312 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: It was after hours, that's how young we were. And 313 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: so do you want the full, like funny story or 314 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: do you just want me to like give the snake. 315 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Food for the soul of my friend? 316 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so all right, So this was around the time 317 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to. 318 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: Move back, and you mean you were failing out? Yeah, 319 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: moving back is the nice way to say it. 320 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: So my mom, my mom surprised us and showed up 321 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: at my door as we were walking out to go 322 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: to the night club. Right, and my mom loves to 323 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: dance and stuff like that, like, so I took my mom. 324 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: Like so, so I'm walking out the door and my 325 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: mom walks in as we're walking out, and she like, hey, 326 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, surprise, I'm here to visit. And I was like, well, 327 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: we're getting ready to go out, you know, and at 328 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen years old, nothing's stopping you from going out. 329 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: When you especially when your girlfriend. 330 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: No she wasn't. I didn't know her yet. 331 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: Oh you're just going out with some I'm going. 332 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Out with more friends, got it. So my mom shows 333 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: up and I'm like, well, we're going out. You're coming 334 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: with us, and she's like, yeah, let me get dressed 335 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: real quick. So we take my mom to this club. Well, 336 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: we get there, you know, we're scouting the scene, seeing 337 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: what's going on, and I end up going to the 338 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: restroom with my friend and unbeknownst to me, I had 339 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: no idea this was going on. My mom approaches what 340 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: turns out being my wife, her and her cousin and says, hey, 341 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: will you dance with my son? Well, I'm in the restroom, 342 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: and so I come out and I start dancing with 343 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: my wife or I start dancing with my wife's cousin, 344 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: and then my friend's dancing with my what turns out 345 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: to be my wife. So we met that night. That's 346 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: how we met. And after that i'd see her. 347 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: Could I just clear this up? Your mom basically introduce 348 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: you to your wife in a club. That's pretty funny. 349 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the underage club too, that's hilarious. So you know, 350 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: I would see her after that, and you know, I'd 351 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: want to be your friend and stuff like that, and 352 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: we actually ended up becoming really good friends. And then 353 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: I moved back to a pass and we always just 354 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: kept in touch, and every time i'd go to Phoenix 355 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: to see my friends, which was pretty regularly, I would 356 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: connect with her. And then, you know, as persistent guys 357 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: always are, I would always try and you know, get 358 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: her to go on a date with me and you know, 359 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: take that to the next level, and she would always 360 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: turn me down, and she didn't actually accept until she 361 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: knew I was joining the night. 362 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like dudes at party with her mom, So 363 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 364 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was crashing and burning pretty hard with her, 365 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: and I told her I was joining the navy. 366 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, were you yelling meet low from the couch 367 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: like a wedding crashers? 368 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: Guy? I mean it was only eighteen. I was like, 369 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: I was still a teenage So go ahead. When I 370 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: told her I was joining the navy, She'll tell you 371 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: that she didn't want me to leave and find a 372 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: girlfriend and not be able to allow not be allowed 373 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: to talk to her because we were we had actually 374 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: became real close, and so that's when she decided that 375 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: she should start dating me. So we joined the Navy. 376 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: And then I'd say about a year and a half 377 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: after boot camp, while we were broken up. We were 378 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: broken up, we got married. 379 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: You got married while you were broken up? Yeah, that's crazy. 380 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 2: Is your mom involved in that? There? Now? 381 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: It was a small courthouse wedding, and it was it 382 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: was it started over a fight. I lived in Seattle 383 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: or in Birmerton. She lived in Phoenix, and she was like, 384 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't trust you in Seattle. I'm like, well, I 385 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: don't trust you in Phoenix and I was like all right, 386 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: and she's like, well, the you know, the only way 387 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: this is going to work is if we are together. 388 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: And I said, well, the Navy don't pay for an 389 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: apartment unless I'm married. And she said, well then let's 390 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: get married. Well, then let's get married. And I flew down. 391 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: Two weeks later we got married. 392 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: Your proposal, you're a real casanova. 393 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: That's how it went down. 394 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: And now a few messages from our general sponsors. 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Think about it, We'll be right back. 402 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: Enrique and Latsia later moved to Virginia and then the 403 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Naval Air base in Millington outside of Memphis, where he 404 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: would drive by the Saint Jude buildings. He'd see their 405 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: TV spots and thought, man, where do they find these 406 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: poor families, and in December of two thousand and eight, 407 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: they moved to Japan with their two young daughters. The 408 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: world changes for you in Japan. Tell me about where 409 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Saint Jude found one of those four families in your family. 410 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we were stationed in Japan. I was there 411 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: on a what should have been a four year tour. So, 412 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: like I said, we got there in December two thousand 413 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: and eight, January of two thousand and nine. In June, So, 414 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: June twenty ninth of two thousand and nine, my Ariana, 415 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: who had just turned three in April, had a ten 416 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: minute seizure. 417 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: A ten minute seizure, ten minutes. You know, I've coached football, 418 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: taught school, been around kids my whole life, and own 419 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: a lumber company that's hot and stuff. And I've seen 420 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: people pass out in all I've seen fifteen or twenty 421 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: second seizures. A ten minute seizure to me, sounds horrifying. 422 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: Are we talking clinched fists, teeth gnarling, locked up, convulsive 423 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: for ten straight minutes? Seven? 424 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up seizure for ten minutes. So I was 425 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: at work and my wife coincidentally at that time, worked 426 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: at the daycare. And you know, talk about blessings or coincidences. 427 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: Arianna and Olivia's teacher was running late that day, so 428 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: or daycare teacher or whatever. So Ladiica was in their 429 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: class that morning, and I remember our Laticia says that 430 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: she gave her an apple and while they were eating breakfast, 431 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: and after she took a bite to the apple, she 432 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: just her seizure started. She started convulsing, and Litisa said 433 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: she just grabbed Ariana and ran out and ran out 434 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: of the daycare, and she says there was a car 435 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: parked in the front doing a drop off, I guess 436 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: to their kids, and she just jumped in the car 437 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: and was like, take me to medical. And the car 438 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: took her to medical. And she called me while she. 439 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: Was jumpers car. Yeah, take here's being my kid. Take 440 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: me to the hospital. Yes, so they took her, I 441 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: guess medical. And the Navy thing is the I guess. 442 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: It's just on hospital. Yeah, on base clinic or blade 443 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: on base emergency room or whatever. And so it it 444 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: was just like across the there was like a soccer 445 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: field between me between my office and medical, so like 446 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: I was running across uh the field, and I remember 447 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: just seeing my wife like or I remember seeing this 448 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: car like with hazard lights just speeding, which what turned 449 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: out being my wife the car my wife was in. 450 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: And then I get to medical and Ariana is not responsive, 451 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: so they thought she was brain dead because of how 452 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: long her seizure was. Uh, so they called it Japanese, 453 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, we called They sent us to a Japanese hospital. 454 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: So a Japanese ambulance came and picked us up. And 455 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: I remember as soon as they like pushed her in 456 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: the car on it popped up like nothing had happened. 457 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: She just like sat up. 458 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: The foss. 459 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like what's going on? And so Leticia and Ariana 460 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: ride in the Japanese ambulance and I ride in a 461 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: car behind them. So they take us to a Japanese hospital. 462 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: They do a CT scan with a translator. They sent 463 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: us with a translator, and I remember the doctor came 464 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: out and Ariana is just being normal now, she's drinking chew, 465 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: seating a snack. And I remember the doctor coming out 466 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: and trying to tell us in English, like your daughter 467 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: has a tumor. And I remember me and my wife 468 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: just looking at each other like I don't think he's 469 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: saying the right word, like I don't think, like I 470 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you trying to speak English, but I think I 471 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: think you're messing up here, like you're not saying what 472 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: you need to say, right. And I remember we're like, 473 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: tell the translator, like that's why she's here, and let 474 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: her tell us. So he tells the translator in Japanese, 475 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: and I just remember the translator turning around like with 476 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: her eyes filled with water or with tears, just looking 477 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: at m M. And she, you know, she's like he's 478 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: saying that she has a brain tumor. And you know, 479 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: and so we, uh, we elected to go back to 480 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: the States on a you know, we got metav act 481 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: out of the United States or out of Japan back 482 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: to the States. So I remember. So the seizure was 483 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: June twenty ninth, and they metavact Us out July fifth. 484 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: It was right after fourth of July. Our last holiday 485 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: in Japan was fourth of July. All the fireworks on 486 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: base and the next morning we flew out. 487 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: At this point, you know, it's a tumor and you 488 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: know that's bad, but you don't really know what kind 489 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: of tumor, what to expect or anything. At this point. 490 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: At this point, all we know is there's a mass. 491 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: There's a mass three year old which is right next 492 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: to her Brain's terrifying. Mm hmm. 493 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: But we're going to get met of act. We're going 494 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: back to Texas and we're going to find somebody and 495 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: we're going to get this fixed. We're going to beat it. Right, 496 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: It's what you got to be thinking, right, Yeah, So 497 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: and your other daughters held Olivia. 498 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: So Olivia was a year old when all this. 499 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: You're this young couple with a three year old to 500 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: one year old in Japan with a sick child. That's 501 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: gotta be hard. 502 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: There's tough. I remember that first one call home. I 503 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: mean just crying to my mom and dad and let 504 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: Dacia too, you know, because we just we were terrified. 505 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: We didn't know what to expect. 506 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: Which has got to be not to minimize your story 507 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: at all, but on a thirty thousand foot view, it's 508 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: got to be common. I mean, I'm gonna tell you something, Okay. 509 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: My son Max is my youngest, all right. He's a meathead, 510 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: pretty good football player and baseball player. And his junior 511 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: year in high school after I coached him manassas, I 512 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: was really fortunate that I got to coach my kids 513 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: in school, and so his junior in high school, I 514 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: was a coach on his high school team. And in 515 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: the first quarter, I'm on the sideline and it's actually 516 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: a kickoff coverage we'd scored, and Max runs down to 517 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: make a tackle and he swings around the guy's hip 518 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: and he's kind of helicoptering, you know how you can hope, 519 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: you know, if you hold people by their their arms 520 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: and swing around, and people kind of helicopter. And as 521 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: he helicoptered to his side, hit a guy's knee and 522 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: Max is, for better or worse, pretty tough. And I'd 523 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: never since seen him play football in every sport since 524 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: six years old. He always thought it was weenie to 525 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: lay on the field. He's like, get up and get 526 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: off field. Wine on the sideline, you know, that was 527 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: kind of his meathead mentality. Well, he stayed down for 528 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 2: a few seconds, got up on a knee, took a 529 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: couple of steps, got back down to a knee, gathered himself, 530 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: and jogged off. And I watched that and I'm like, whatever, 531 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: he's fine. So I keep coaching, and the team doctor 532 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: comes to me and says, hey, man, can't let Max 533 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: go back in. I think he's bruised a rib, maybe 534 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: cracked one. After the game, we'll take him to the 535 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: office and have him X ray. And I'm like, fine, 536 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: he was our starting safety. It wasn't good thing. And 537 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: I was more frustrated that we had to pull my 538 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: game right. I was like, and I kind of I 539 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: remember looking back and over my shoulder at him and 540 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: geting eye contact with him. 541 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you wuss, get back out there, it is. 542 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: What is wrong with you. He grabs his helmet starts 543 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: running back on the field and the doc is like, no, 544 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: I'm serious, not so anyway, another five six minutes past, 545 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: Doc comes back to me says, now, I'm positive he's 546 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: got broken ribs. There's a lot of pain here. And 547 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: he said, I think we need to go on and 548 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: take him the hospital now. And Lisa and the kids, 549 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: his siblings are sitting in the second or third row 550 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: where they always did. And I said, well, there's Lisa. 551 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: I got a game to coach out. And I said, 552 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: Deuce is weenie, Yeah, you know, go get your brib 553 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: sex right. He died on the way to the hospital. 554 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he codd He's alive, but he bled 555 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: out and we didn't know that. He passed out, and 556 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: then he came back and Lisa and Molly and Will 557 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: his siblings, pushed him into the mergency room and they 558 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: put him in a wheelchair and put him in a 559 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: hallway and Lisa was like, you don't understand. He doesn't 560 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: whine and cross, something's really bad. He doubled over, writhing 561 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: in pain, and then he went out again and Lisa screamed, 562 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: and a nurse came by put the stetscope on his 563 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: heart and she said, O S and hit a button. 564 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: Blue lights go off in Max. It dead. They put 565 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: him on the gurney. They revived him again. A guy, 566 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: a kid. His body I think has about seven liters 567 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: of blood in his body. They put six in them. 568 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: He was bleeding internally, bled out. They didn't know, and 569 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: they put him on a helicopter and flew him to 570 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: the Region one, the trauma center, and they cut him 571 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: open and saved it life. And he had two collapse lungs, 572 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: three broken ribs and spleen and exploded and we almost 573 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: lost them. And at halftime we'll actually start a third quarter. 574 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: I don't know any of this going on. I'm coaching football. 575 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: Somebody calls team doc and he comes to him and 576 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: he says, hey, man, you need to get to the hospital. 577 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, what football like. Max is on a helicopter. 578 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: He's being life lighted in and Lisa and the kids 579 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: are speeding, and I'm like, for a broken rib and 580 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: he said, look, man, I don't know what it is. 581 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: I literally get to the hospital and Lisa's running up 582 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: the sidewalk from where she parked. I just parked in 583 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: the street, and the hospital the helicopter's landing with Max 584 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: in at all at the same time. And we go 585 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: in and this trauma surgeon comes in and he's sleeved 586 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: with tats and he's got on rexpecs. He's wearing about 587 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: eighty gold jeweys. He looks like a white, middle aged 588 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: version of mister t And I'm like, my kid's dead. 589 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: They've ran out of surgeons and they brought in the 590 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: guy from the motor pool to walk on my kid. 591 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: That's what I thought. And he said he's in trouble. 592 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: I don't have time to explain. I'm gonna do everything 593 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: I can to save his life. And we sat there 594 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: for six hours thinking Max was gone. Dude to this day. 595 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: It affects me. It is the most terrified I've ever 596 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: been in my life about anything, but I got him back. 597 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: I cannot fathom having a one year old and a 598 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: three year old and having to get on a plane 599 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: for Japan and fly to Texas and call your parents 600 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: and go to a hospital. I had to experience it 601 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: five hours, the unknown and the worry. You're telling me 602 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: you experienced it for a. 603 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: Week longer than that, for like three weeks, three or 604 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: four weeks. 605 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: We didn't find wondering if your child's gonna We. 606 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: Didn't know what kind of so we didn't know anything 607 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: other then, like I said, she had a mass they 608 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, they told us we got two neurosurgeons in 609 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: the military, two pediatric neuro surgeons in the military. You 610 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: can either go to Hawaii or go to San Antonio. Clearly, 611 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: no one can drive. 612 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: Our family can No san Antonio because family. 613 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so everyone can drive in San Antonio and see her. 614 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: So we get to San Antonio. Her first appointment is 615 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: July tenth. I remember all these dates like yesterday, So 616 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: her first appointment is July tenth. We bring her in 617 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: for an MRI. My mom and my dad and my 618 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: mother in law. They are already so they bring her 619 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: in for an MRI. We try and figure out what's 620 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: going on, and July tenth they tell us that or no, 621 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: her first MRI was July eighth, they tell us that 622 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: she has ATRT, which stands for atypical territoroid rhapdoid tumor. Wait, 623 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: say that one more atypical territoroid rapid tumor and that 624 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: is what does that mean? So that's the type of 625 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: brain tumor that she had. And at that time, in 626 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, it only appeared thirty eight times 627 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: around thirty eight times a year around the world. Thirty 628 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: eight it's extremely. 629 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: Rare, So we're talking crazy rare, and the rarest forms 630 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: of diseases unfortunately, don't have that much research about them 631 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: because they're so rare. 632 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: Right, it took them three weeks to diagnose it, so 633 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: we didn't get the diagnosis till July thirty first. 634 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: And when they gave you that diagnosis, what did they 635 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: tell you was the prognosis? 636 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: So, like I said, Ariana had just turned three in April. 637 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: This is July. They told us that Ariana would never 638 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: turn four and that they told and then they told 639 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: us that the best case scenario was thirteen months of 640 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: life on treatment. And at that point, you know, so 641 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: they told us July thirty first August first we went 642 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: in for you know, the consultation with the doctors, and 643 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: at that point we had already googled everything and did 644 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: everything that we needed to do. You know, it's two 645 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, so everyone had access to the internet 646 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: at that time, and everything that we researched, everything that 647 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: we looked up led us to Saint Jude. 648 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. You said earlier when you were 649 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: in Millington that you would drop by and see these 650 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what color they pink buildings color. 651 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: They're like a pinkish ceremony, like pearlish building. 652 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that, but they're pink. Anyway, drop past it, 653 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: ev you look down on these buildings. 654 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: They're nice, the nicest buildings. 655 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: It's the nicest campus on earth. But they're pink or something. 656 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: So anyway, you drop look your perspective. When you were 657 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: here in Millington, you drove by some pink buildings and thought, 658 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: where do they get the poor families? That's the point 659 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make right, not about today speak buildings, 660 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 2: but back then that was your thought. And so the 661 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: irony of ironies. You're in San Antonio and you are 662 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: one of these poor families that they get, and you've 663 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: been told your kid's gonna die. First, I mean, could 664 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: you even see straight? You had to have just been 665 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: wrought with pain. And second, unfortunately that's the news parents 666 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 2: all over the world get every day, and the hopelessness, 667 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 2: and let's do talk. I mean, our number one job 668 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: right is protect our family. Our number one job is 669 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: we're going to honor and protect our wives and honor 670 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: and protect our children. And something like that strips your 671 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: ability to even do that. I mean, I guess I'm 672 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: asking what was going on inside of you. Forget Google, 673 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: forget the research. I'm talking about the emotion you had 674 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: to just been dying inside. 675 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was just terrifying, right because you 676 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: don't you know one of the things that I was 677 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: thinking about when you were asking me about my dad, 678 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: and like, you know, when you started talking about your kids. 679 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: I think every parent's goal is to afford your own 680 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: kids better opportunities that you had. You know, this is 681 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: something that I stress to my daughter every day that 682 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: she has better opportunities that I ever had, and that 683 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: I hope that she takes advantage of those. So in 684 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: a situation like this where I have no control over 685 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: what's going to happen to Oreana because I've lost her 686 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: health now, and I think health is the most important 687 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: thing that you can have, and I can't protect her. 688 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't stop this cancer or this tumor. 689 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know what the right answer is. 690 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 2: And so you guys decided Sat. Jude was the place 691 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 2: to go. We did. When'd you get to Saint Jude? 692 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: August second, two thousand and nine, August second, Yeah, clearly 693 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: we're not wasting any time, right the night thirty first, 694 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: we get the diagnosis August first, we have the consultation. 695 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: Well that's three weeks July ninth to August second. 696 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: Well from Japan, yam, From Japan June twenty ninth to 697 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: August second is a month? 698 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, a month, okay, a month June. So literally you're 699 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: in Japan going about life, doing life, and a month 700 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: later you find out your daughter's got this rare cancer 701 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 2: disease in her head, and you've been to San Antonio, 702 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 2: and now you're back in Memphis, and when you get 703 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: to Saint Jude, you come here with your wife, your 704 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: one year old, and you're sick three year old, and 705 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: your expectation is that you're going to have your daughter 706 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: for a year. Best case, that's what you show up 707 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: to Saint Jude with what you found when he got here. 708 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: Let me tell you a quick story about doctor Gajar. 709 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: He is the head of neural oncology the e Clinic 710 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: and again leader new researcher and so many different types 711 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: of brain tumors. I don't know how he even has 712 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: time to sleep or eat, just how busy he looks, 713 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: having been around him now. But anyway, we got here 714 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: August second of two thousand and nine, so you know, 715 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: I was trying to show you how busy this person is. Right, 716 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: And we get here August second, two thousand and nine, 717 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: at ten o'clock at night, and doctor Gajar is in 718 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: the lobby waiting for us to greet us, and I 719 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: just I remember the overwhelming sense of relief to see 720 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: him there and feel that he cared. You know, thanks 721 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: to donors and supporters, San Jude families don't pay a. 722 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 2: Dime and what else don't they pay a dime for. 723 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: They don't pay a dime for treatment, housing, food, or travel. 724 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: And treatment, housing, food and travel. Not only do they 725 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: treat your kids, they don't do it for money. They 726 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: get it, they raise the money. They actually take care 727 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: of the family too, because the families also going through 728 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 2: the trauma. Which I think is one of the secrets 729 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: and the sauce behind this whole place, is they treat 730 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 2: the whole family. 731 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 732 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you feel loved and that piece of community that 733 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: you would have never had exists here. 734 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember just walking through the door, and 735 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, after researching statistics and survival rates, I just 736 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: remember the first question I asked doctor Gazar was what 737 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: percentage of survival do you give my daughter? And he said, 738 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't treat numbers. I treat kids, and I promise 739 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: to do everything I can to save your daughter's life. 740 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't treat numbers, I treat people. That is 741 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: one extraordinary doctor at one of the most extraordinary places 742 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: in the world, Saint Jude. That concludes part one of 743 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 2: my conversation with Enrique, and I hope you'll listen to 744 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: part two that's now available as his story is far 745 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 2: from over. But first we're trying to raise more support 746 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: for Saint Jude in honor of Childhood Cancer Awareness Month 747 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: this September. With Saint Jude, we've set up a community 748 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: donation at Saint Jude dot org backslash normal folks. If 749 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: we can help grow an even larger army of normal 750 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 2: folks supporting Saint Jude, will be one step closer to 751 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: the day when no child dies from cancer, one cure, 752 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 2: one child closer. This month and every month, let's cure 753 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 2: childhood cancer together. Our producer Alex is already contributing twenty 754 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: bucks a month, and Lisa and I are also doing 755 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 2: a monthly contribution. And I hope you'll join us at 756 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: any level you can at Savejjude dot org backslash normal folks. 757 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 2: I'll see you in Part two.