WEBVTT - Lady Wray

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<v Speaker 1>Request Left Show is a production of iHeart Radio, Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and Gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that James Todd Smith famously yelled in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety don't call it a comeback. Our guest today

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<v Speaker 2>has probably been hearing that term for at least the

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<v Speaker 2>last ten years, which means it really isn't a comeback.

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<v Speaker 2>She's had quite the journey in her music career. She

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<v Speaker 2>rose to fame in the late nineties under her birth

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<v Speaker 2>name Nicole Ray. Of course we all remember make It

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<v Speaker 2>Hot top five hit with Missy Elliott's gold Mine imprint.

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<v Speaker 2>She experienced the challenges of navigating the music industry, including

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<v Speaker 2>shifts and label support and evolving musical landscapes. We are

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<v Speaker 2>definitely gonna get into that, and after a period of

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<v Speaker 2>personal reflection and growth, she basically returned to her roots,

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<v Speaker 2>embracing her authentic, soulful self and redefining her sound, starting

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<v Speaker 2>with twenty sixteen's mind blowing Queen alone album. There's also

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<v Speaker 2>Piece of Me in twenty twenty two, and now her

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<v Speaker 2>new album entitled Cover Girl, which is on Big Crown Records.

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<v Speaker 2>I can personally attest that her discography might be the

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<v Speaker 2>unofficial roots background Dressing Room soundtrack. I've been a longtime

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<v Speaker 2>fan and I would like to welcome Lady Ray to QLs.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, I'm great, Thanks Ques for having me. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>longtime fan of you guys and of you as well.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just a pleasure today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, there's a difference between the two

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<v Speaker 2>dressing rooms of the Roots and usually before a show,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted real quiet and zen and in the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>room where the rest of the guys are, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they gotta it's almost like a football atmosphere where they

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<v Speaker 2>got to get each other hype. And I remember sometime

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe two or three years ago, I popped my

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<v Speaker 2>head in but there was something different about this was soulful,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was almost like this one sounded young. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yo, who the hell is that? And they

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<v Speaker 2>were like Lady rayn. I was like I never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of her. He's like, oh, you remember Nicole Ray from

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<v Speaker 2>Da Da Da Da Dad, And I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way that. Like I was flabbergasted and shocked

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<v Speaker 2>that I wasn't up on your your pivot, get your

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<v Speaker 2>information or like what I feel is like really your

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<v Speaker 2>your true arrival. And so yeah, I will say that

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<v Speaker 2>Tariq pretty much keeps you in rotation for like the

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<v Speaker 2>last two years, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Just kind of love to love to reak.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's an honor to talk to you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So my first question to you, in the first twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of your day, what is your routine?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, first twenty minutes of my day routine?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, specifically this.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning, well this morning it does not include my daughter

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<v Speaker 3>because she's at home with family and I'm here in

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<v Speaker 3>La getting ready, gearing up for my tour. So this

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<v Speaker 3>morning I kind of slept in late because I was

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<v Speaker 3>out a little late last night in a writing session

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<v Speaker 3>which I had a great time worked with Raymond Nominee

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Grant, and I think I slept a little late

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<v Speaker 3>this morning. I skipped breakfast, and when I did wake up,

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<v Speaker 3>I immediately reached out to my husband and told them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm getting ready to get myself together, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and did my makeup of my hair because I knew

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to see you today. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't go in there looking busted. I gotta get

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<v Speaker 3>myself together. And it always takes me a minute to

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<v Speaker 3>get the eyebrows. I'm not like a professional makeup artist,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, you know, doing makeup for myself on

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<v Speaker 3>tour for the last two years, I kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>perfected the eyelashes and the eye brows. So that takes

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<v Speaker 3>me a good little minute to get that perfected, because

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<v Speaker 3>without that, my day is not It's going to be off,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if I have to do it like interviews and

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<v Speaker 3>to actually be seen. Got myself together. Listen back to

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<v Speaker 3>the song that I created last night, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>Monster A Beast. Kind of got hyped for the day

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<v Speaker 3>and got some lunch and got my room cleaned and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of got ready to get all t minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you did all that in twenty minutes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it now.

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<v Speaker 3>That was your day, Yeah, that was my day.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were to ask you pre tend like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is a typical memory of your childhood? I never know

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<v Speaker 2>that you were born in California but later moved to Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a picture when I ask you, like, just

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<v Speaker 2>give me a random memory of your childhood. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be something like monumental, like the time that

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<v Speaker 2>you know they took us to see the Victory tour

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. But right no, give me a

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<v Speaker 2>happy moment of your childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy happy moments are church, church, church, church, church, birds,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of doll I had a lot of dogs

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<v Speaker 3>growing up. My three my two siblings, my oldest brother

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<v Speaker 3>and my youngest sister, us just hanging out outside all

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<v Speaker 3>day and toil. My mom would yell our names to

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<v Speaker 3>come in. We would ride our bikes, we would go

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<v Speaker 3>to church. We had like an apple tree. We had

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<v Speaker 3>a great tree. My brother would flip learn he was

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<v Speaker 3>learning how to do backflips in the yard, and we

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<v Speaker 3>just we had each other. So those were my best

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<v Speaker 3>memories as a kid growing up. Would be church. Baptist

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<v Speaker 3>church with my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your denomination, Well, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Pentecostal and Baptist. My grandmother, she was devoted to the

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<v Speaker 3>Baptist church. And then my mother and father, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of grew out of that and we went we

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<v Speaker 3>started the Pentecostal church. Yeah. Yeah, So it felt like

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<v Speaker 3>every day we were in church, and we did vacation

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<v Speaker 3>Bible school, like the summer, being in a choir, and

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<v Speaker 3>just growing up in the church background.

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<v Speaker 1>Roots for me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always been something that I can look back and

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<v Speaker 3>smile and I could be anywhere, and I will hear

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<v Speaker 3>these lyrics from so many years ago that I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even think that I was listening to as a child,

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<v Speaker 3>like these old like gospel lyrics which just come in

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<v Speaker 3>my head. I could be like cleaning up. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I did a lot of church, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>The song that first brought you to my attention, it

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<v Speaker 2>was your twist on Sunshine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone always asks you about this, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I was explaining to my friends when I

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<v Speaker 2>was playing it for them. You know the story behind

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<v Speaker 2>that was even an artist loved this. Stevie Wonder wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed in the Clark household because it was secular mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>devil's music. So thus they would have to disguise their

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<v Speaker 2>fandom for you know, regular songs and put a twist

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<v Speaker 2>on it. But I want to know for you, was

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<v Speaker 2>outside music allowed in your everyday week life or was

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<v Speaker 2>it also a strict Christian music only household.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not only strict Christian music household. My father

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<v Speaker 3>welcomed Jackson, Five, Whitney, Houston, Aretha Franklin, Marvel, Gay, Sam Cooke.

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<v Speaker 3>The list goes on. But my pastor in the Pentecostal

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<v Speaker 3>church would not have agreed. I remember being fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 3>after my mom and dad got a divorce, we still

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<v Speaker 3>would go to the family church, and I remember my

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<v Speaker 3>mom asked for prayer. You know, the lady with the

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<v Speaker 3>big flower hat. You put your name in the thing

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<v Speaker 3>and she gets up there and say, sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Every report card Monday, I'd ask for prayer and get

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<v Speaker 1>born again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah before yeah, yeah, but my pastor was not having it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was not having it. My pastor, he had these

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<v Speaker 3>like gazelles and he got up. All he heard was Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 3>Jame and Terry Lewis, and he stood up. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>disregard the prayer. They're serving the devil. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>like fourteen, about to be fifteen, and I was shattered.

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<v Speaker 3>I think right there was a pivotal moment for me

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<v Speaker 3>in my career. That's probably why I never went gospel.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel welcome as a teen, and I really

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be a gospel singer and my pastor was

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<v Speaker 3>not having it, and it just pushed me into secular music.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, but yeah, it was not a thing to

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<v Speaker 3>not listen to second music in my house.

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<v Speaker 2>The elders once asked me once we got a record

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<v Speaker 2>deal in a kind of backwards way.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, so are you uplifting the Lord in

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<v Speaker 1>your music or are you uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I never went back after that after twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, right, what three songs would you say is the

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<v Speaker 2>soundtrack to your first ten years of life?

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Braxton for sure, Baby Breathe Again. Mary J Blige

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<v Speaker 3>was the four to one one okay, and Wu Tang

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<v Speaker 3>Clan for sure. That's in the whole, like mixture of

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<v Speaker 3>you got some hip hop, you got some and probably

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. But

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<v Speaker 3>I know you asked me for three bus.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone who would you say your north star was? As

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<v Speaker 1>far as your craft.

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<v Speaker 3>Is concerned, I'm gonna tear up my idol has and

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<v Speaker 3>always will be married j Blige. She was the soundtrack

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<v Speaker 3>to my my ten their youth, me being inspired, me

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<v Speaker 3>learning things for the first time, me having boyfriends for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time, getting yelled at by my mom, running

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<v Speaker 3>into my room with my radio that she would sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>pawd for to pay a light bill, and I would

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<v Speaker 3>come home like, where's my radio? She said, don't worry

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<v Speaker 3>about it, We're gonna get it back, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I have my Mary J. Blige cassette in there. But

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<v Speaker 3>we did get my radio player back. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>always Mary J. Blige in my life and my world

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<v Speaker 3>as a young girl growing up in Portsmouth, Virginia, it

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<v Speaker 3>was always Mary. And I had an opportunity to meet her,

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<v Speaker 3>and nobody believed me because when I met Missy Elliott,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she was hanging out with Mary, and I

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<v Speaker 3>met Mary at a young age. I was still a

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<v Speaker 3>young teen when I met Mary. So I was like

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there like shaking inside, like I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>And she said, oh my god, I love you. She

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<v Speaker 3>told me she loved me. She had heard my music,

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<v Speaker 3>she knew who I was, and I almost like fainted,

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<v Speaker 3>like I was like, oh my god. So it's always

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<v Speaker 3>going to be Mary J. Blige for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So my life was like your ear.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you were open, like one of the percent open.

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<v Speaker 3>And one open. I think the drink back then was

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<v Speaker 3>gin and juice because I think Snoop Dogg and we

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<v Speaker 3>were young and we were like trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sneak around and you know, but it was always my

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<v Speaker 3>life listening to those songs. I was young, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just some of those lyrics when I was young, and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand, but I think it hit different for

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<v Speaker 3>me because my mom was a single mom and my

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<v Speaker 3>brother was holding down the household, and just those lyrics

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<v Speaker 3>just resonated in my soul as a young girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I specifically remember the day that that album came out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like ninety four and we're in DC

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<v Speaker 2>and we were like doing promotion around the Howard area

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<v Speaker 2>and our label rep haded and started playing it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>We sat there frozen in the car. Now, had he said, yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I got the new NAS album, or here's the

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<v Speaker 2>new Brand Nubian album, or here's the you know, yeah right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would have just been like, oh, we're

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<v Speaker 2>open for business. But I remember by the time we

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<v Speaker 2>got to the title track, when we got to My Life,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that we were all looking at each other

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<v Speaker 2>the way that our parents looked at us listen to

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop, because we said.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a singer, like she's not allowed to sing over samples?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will say that I was maybe for like

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<v Speaker 2>four months, like I didn't realize that this new movement,

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<v Speaker 2>this this bad boy movement was coming in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the traditional unspoken rules of what we thought,

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<v Speaker 2>like singers should never sing over a sample, like you

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<v Speaker 2>can sing anything, make up your own melody like rappers

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<v Speaker 2>gotta have.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me at.

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<v Speaker 2>Least, like I was arms crossed only because I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if singer is gonna make me music like rappers, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>then who's going to make the music that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to sample in the year two thousand or two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and five or two Yeah. But you know, also as

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<v Speaker 2>a DJ, I'm seeing the effect that this this new

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<v Speaker 2>style of music's coming, and so I gave in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course now it's classic.

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<v Speaker 3>We just you welcomed it.

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<v Speaker 1>We played with her a.

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<v Speaker 2>Week ago and it was where her band like one

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<v Speaker 2>show a year where she'll join us and we're her

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<v Speaker 2>band for that show.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that you you guys and Mary, Oh my,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta get a ticket. I gotta get there to

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<v Speaker 3>see that.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, we're in California. Were you born?

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<v Speaker 3>I was born in Selinas, California, on an army base.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad was an army so they traveled a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was born here and then raised Enforcemouth.

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<v Speaker 1>How old were you when you came to Virginia.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a baby. Yeah, I was still a baby. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby from Virginia. Okay, yeah, I'm from Virginia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now where does Portsmouth fall into the proximity of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know di'angelo like his Richmond and Virginia Beach and well,

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely part of the d MV. It's like right near

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<v Speaker 3>like Norfolk. It's like right under the water. It's under

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<v Speaker 3>the bridge like as a tunnel that always for years

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<v Speaker 3>it's like how do they build this? It's like under

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<v Speaker 3>it's water under there, it's it's it's so wild. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it's right like next door to to Norfolk,

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<v Speaker 3>Newport News, bad News where Alan Iverson is from. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're kind of like right next door. And Portsmouth is

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<v Speaker 3>has always been known for its a lot of talent

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<v Speaker 3>that gets unseen, got it? Like they say something's in

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<v Speaker 3>the water that's everywhere in like kind of like Norfolk, Hampton,

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia Beach, Portsmouth and Newport News.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, I know for like a New Yorker.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything south of Philadelphia and their eyes is down south.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know people that actually think that DC and

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<v Speaker 2>Maryland are that's down south even though southern.

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<v Speaker 1>No, are you more northeast or north of North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like growing up when I say Wu tang,

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<v Speaker 3>we will always like connect ourselves to New York. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we would go to New York when the Timberlands would

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<v Speaker 3>come out and the music would come out, we would

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<v Speaker 3>always go. I mean I have family members that would

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<v Speaker 3>just go and drive to New York and say, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in Brooklyn, I'm going to get some jewelry. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to get the front somewhere in Brooklyn at this big mall.

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<v Speaker 3>And we will always like just go back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>to New York. So I feel like we're close more

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<v Speaker 3>close to you know, a lot of people say that

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<v Speaker 3>I sound like I'm New York. I sound kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like country. My accent is all over the place. I

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<v Speaker 3>will tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you first came out, of course you've been

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<v Speaker 2>on Missy's label. I was like, Oh, she must be

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<v Speaker 2>from VA.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>The irony of this story is that the second album

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come out but I will say that the street

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<v Speaker 2>promoters when you signed to Rockefeller were like heavy on

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<v Speaker 2>me as far as like spinning you.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I thought, well, well, damn, maybe she's.

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<v Speaker 2>From Philadelphia like I right, right, no, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, I thought she was down with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So first of all, I want to know for you,

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<v Speaker 2>what were the first steps and you wanting to pursue

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<v Speaker 2>music as a career, Like was there another option? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you have another passion or desire when you were younger.

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<v Speaker 3>My story for wanting to embark in this crazy music

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<v Speaker 3>business has always pointed at my dad. My dad was

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<v Speaker 3>a singer in the church. You had inspirations to be

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<v Speaker 3>an R and B singer, Like my dad's voice was

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<v Speaker 3>similar to my Gay and Sam Cook. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>strong voice. And then his life kind of took a

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<v Speaker 3>turn and he kind of he was homeless for about

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years and he had a drug addiction. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think as a young child when my mom and dad

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<v Speaker 3>got a divorce, I think for me it was like

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<v Speaker 3>this hunger to find my dad. And when I did

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<v Speaker 3>find my dad, I wanted him to hear me sing,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I was always singing loud and until he

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<v Speaker 3>came home, and he didn't come home to like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like over twenty years, he didn't come home and get

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<v Speaker 3>himself cleaned and off drugs and homeless. It felt like

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<v Speaker 3>two lifetimes. And I think that was the goal for me,

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<v Speaker 3>is to sing as loud as I could and so

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<v Speaker 3>my dad would hear me and come back into my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And it didn't work right away because he was out

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<v Speaker 3>there in the streets and I was trying to focus

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<v Speaker 3>on my career. When I met Missy Elliott, I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of started young in the music business. I got my

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<v Speaker 3>deal when I was I think just turning like seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>years old, and my dad was out there and I

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to focus on my career. Helped my dad

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<v Speaker 3>get his life back together. And I think for me,

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<v Speaker 3>initially in the beginning, it was me calling out to

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<v Speaker 3>my dad and for him to, you know, come back

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<v Speaker 3>into my life and to know that I'm pursuing the

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<v Speaker 3>same dreams that he had. So that was my ultimate goal.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say your first creative project was, and

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<v Speaker 1>this way before the record deal, but like when did

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<v Speaker 1>you discover that you were at creative Like what was

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<v Speaker 1>the first real creative project that you put together.

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<v Speaker 3>I had quite a few. My mom was like my

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<v Speaker 3>manager many years ago. She was the momager. And I

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<v Speaker 3>had like a few, like producers that are no longer

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<v Speaker 3>living that I worked with when I was young, anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>from twelve to fourteen, and I would go in the

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<v Speaker 3>studio and make records and sing, but I wasn't writing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the beginning creative thing for me was when

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<v Speaker 3>I was eight and I had to learn lyrics to

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<v Speaker 3>a song. I was eight years old, one year older

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<v Speaker 3>than my daughter is now, and I could imagine her,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the age that I was in the room

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<v Speaker 3>listening to a gospel song and write. I wrote them

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<v Speaker 3>down and nobody helped me. And that Sunday I got

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<v Speaker 3>up there and I sung that song by myself because

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<v Speaker 3>I had been practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>That was lyrics. When you performance eight, Walk me through that?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember getting to choir rehearsal early Saturday, maybe like

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<v Speaker 3>we got there maybe like around eleven. I think rehearsal

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<v Speaker 3>started about twelve, And I remember it was a group

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<v Speaker 3>of all of us little kids. We were all little,

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<v Speaker 3>and my brother was in the choir with us as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember the choir director was like, anybody want

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<v Speaker 3>to lead a song, raise their hand. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>standing there like I knew I could sing, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have the nerves too, And my friend just raised

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<v Speaker 3>my hand up. She was like, Nicole wants to sing,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's like Nicole and she says, come over here.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember the name of the song was titled

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<v Speaker 3>I might as well Think Big, and I remember, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to sing this song in front of the

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<v Speaker 3>whole congregation. But the lyrics of that song, it hits

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<v Speaker 3>crazy today because I've been thinking big ever since I

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<v Speaker 3>was like eight years old. And that was the moment

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<v Speaker 3>that I knew I was gonna be a singer, that

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<v Speaker 3>this is gonna be the love of my life and

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<v Speaker 3>I would be doing this for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>So kind of without knowing it, you subconsciously manifested where

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<v Speaker 2>you are right now. Correct, There is no trepidation or

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<v Speaker 2>nervousness about it at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I still get nervous today, Like when I was eight

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<v Speaker 3>years old. My dad used to tell me, I still

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<v Speaker 3>get nervous, and everybody like why they come to see

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<v Speaker 3>you do what you do? And I just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I am a ball of nerves, like I can be

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<v Speaker 3>backstage and I'm like, I'll ask the band, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>how's it looking out there, and they're like, they're out there,

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<v Speaker 3>they're rated for you. And then my stomach will just

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<v Speaker 3>get it still like I'm eight years old. Like my

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<v Speaker 3>dad will say this. When I was younger, he would say,

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<v Speaker 3>look up at the clock, just don't look at the crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can't do that now. I'm gonna grown up,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, you gotta engage with the crowd. But

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I get so nervous. I just kind of look

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<v Speaker 3>above the crowd until I get in my zone and

0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the energy is there and the vibe is there, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm in it and I feel great. But initially

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 3>going out there, I'm nervous. As I'm so nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get the attention of Missy Elliott?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is like a story from out of one

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<v Speaker 3>of those movies like Ray Charles, Like, I've always been

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<v Speaker 3>an artist that like looking at those enjoy looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the bios of the artists, how they got started and

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<v Speaker 3>their journey. I think for me this was in the

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<v Speaker 3>late nineties. I don't even know if they do this

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<v Speaker 3>anymore because artists kind of get famous off TikTok YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like organic, the most organic of organics. Missy

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<v Speaker 3>Elliott lived right down the street from me. I had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea who she was in Portsmouth. She lived in

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<v Speaker 3>the house and I lived in apartments right and she

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<v Speaker 3>lived across from my middle school. My brother went to

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<v Speaker 3>a talent show that Missy. She graduated from Churchland High

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<v Speaker 3>School and she was a judge at the school. And

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<v Speaker 3>my brother was in a singing group, a boys group.

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<v Speaker 3>They sung, they won. They met Missy and she says,

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<v Speaker 3>I I like you guys. You guys sound amazing, but

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<v Speaker 3>I need a girl artist. And my brother goes, He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a sister she can sing, and she goes okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And so he gave her our house number, our landline,

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<v Speaker 3>and she calls our house and talks to my mom

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<v Speaker 3>and I think I had a little key. She was

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<v Speaker 3>not Missy Ellie by then. She was working with Jodysy

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<v Speaker 3>Timberland and all of those guys. And so my mom

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 3>paged me and says, is a girl over here, she

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 3>wants to meet you. I walked over, came to the

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<v Speaker 3>house and walked in. Missy's there. She had her finger

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<v Speaker 3>waves and she has a magazine and she's like, she's

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<v Speaker 3>telling me all about who she is, what she does,

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 3>her group sister, she knows Jodasy. She told me I

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<v Speaker 3>worked with TLC and that was like my favorite group,

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<v Speaker 3>like back in the day. And she's like, sing something

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<v Speaker 3>for me, and I sung week by s w V.

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<v Speaker 3>I get so, and she says, you remind me of Mary.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody was always comparing me to Mary J.

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<v Speaker 3>Blige as a young girl. And when she saw it,

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, I'm taking you with me. And my mom

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<v Speaker 3>was like, just make sure she's okay. My mom would

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<v Speaker 3>let her drive the car. We would drive to Philly

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<v Speaker 3>in the snow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I got a question. So I kind of wound

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<v Speaker 2>up going backwards. I'm also friends with the Skills, okkk yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And so the thing one is I wasn't aware of

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<v Speaker 2>the mixtapes that they were making in the basements, yeah Davante, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was fully of board by the time one

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:32.959
<v Speaker 2>of the million came out, Like once Elia's record came out,

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, and go backwards like, oh, it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy named similar, Missy.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I got wind of those mixtapes that they

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 2>were making, like were you ever eyewitnessed or worked in

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<v Speaker 2>that basement.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't work in that basement. I think Missy was

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<v Speaker 3>on her way out. She had told me so many

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 3>horrible stories, and she was kind of like becoming stronger

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<v Speaker 3>as a writer, as an individual, as an artist. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think she took all that thissh she learned from

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 3>that and put it into herself, into her career and

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 3>all the other artists like myself that she began to

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 3>work with. But I remember her telling me the wild

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 3>stories about those days in the basement, and I'm kind

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 3>of glad I did not kind of come up in

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 3>that because I would probably not be here talking to

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.919
<v Speaker 3>you today from some of the things that I've heard

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 3>that she told me that was going on back then,

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 3>which is horrible. But look where she is now. You know,

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 3>she's you know, she is on top of her game,

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 3>a trendset of icon iconic. Yeah. So I think when

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 3>I met her, she just wanted to get out of

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 3>that and pull her her talents into you know, something

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 3>else and something fresh. And I was I was like

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 3>her little sister. I went everywhere with Missy, everywhere, like

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I said, would we would drive to Philadelphia and it

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 3>would be cold, like on the weekend, my mom would

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 3>let her take the car. We would drive and we

0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 3>would go in the studio and just sit there all

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 3>night and just I mean I was the like studio rat,

0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.040
<v Speaker 3>like lab like muse. Like she would write songs. I

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 3>would sing them, pumping them out, singing them, pumping them out,

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 3>singing them.

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 1>How are songs crafted back then?

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, back then it is, So it's not quite as

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 3>similar as it is now, Like more like now writing

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 3>is more of a jam Like back then, you would

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 3>get the.

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Stand in the room and just add to the pot.

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like this was not what Missy was like or

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 3>creative on her own. She would get in there and

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 3>make like beats with the producer and sit in there

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 3>and write songs like all day. Like her, she would

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 3>get the track and sit in there and like listen

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 3>to the actual track and write lyrics. Like now it's

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 3>more kind of jamming and organic and you're coming up

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 3>with the track all together and not like kind of

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.679
<v Speaker 3>like sitting there listening to the production and coming up

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 3>with lyrics. That takes a lot today to sit I

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 3>mean some artists do it. I kind of got out

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 3>of that writing style because it's that was a little.

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 3>It seemed like it took so long for me to

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of I think I wanted the music to speak

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 3>to me as it's happening and in real time, and

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 3>that's how I write now. But for me, I learned

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 3>the importance of melody and harmonies working with Missy. She

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 3>could come up with harmonies, I mean, like stacking vocals,

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 3>and I learned all of that from her. Like today,

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I can't be I mean, I could work with artists

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 3>now and they're like, wow, like you helped me. But

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 3>that's what Missy was doing and preparing me as a

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 3>you know, a songwriter today. And I look back on

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 3>those experiences as well.

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I know it's really weird to say, but I realized

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 2>in the pandemic, I didn't know.

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>How to write a song.

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, Tarka and I started well when we

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.479
<v Speaker 2>started in high school. So our high school experience was

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 2>basically just limited to beating on the desks, right, do

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 2>an occasional talent show and when you do someone else's

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 2>song and he rhymes over it. And then when we

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.719
<v Speaker 2>really got serious as the roots, we were like busking.

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>On the street corners m hm.

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>And you kind of have to think off the top

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 2>of your head, whatever's happening. And so it wasn't until

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>when I started DJing in the pandemic in which I'm

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 2>spinning records that I'm not spinning in nightclubs. It's not

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>like I'm spinning records to make you dance. I mean,

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're locked in our houses. Son think I'm

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>like a radio station. So I'm like doing an hour

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>of Marvin Gaye, an hour of Bill Withers. And suddenly,

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>in subjecting myself to five hours a day DJ online,

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh now, and reading the comments that

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 2>are coming up, that was a backwards way for me

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>to learn how a song works actually in the pandemic

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 2>where you know, I mean there was a point where

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I play a radio hit song people are like yo,

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>like crying, and yeah, I'm seeing like what emotionsly touch,

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 2>like what touches them emotionally and hour shot day and

0:26:55.720 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 2>somehow I realized maybe like by July twenty twenty, oh snap,

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I know grooves and I know like the backdrop of rhythm, right,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>but never once did I think can you whistle this song?

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 2>And there's a melody to it? And I was like,

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 2>oh my God, like for seventeen albums. I don't wait,

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>it like, how do we get here?

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:22.639
<v Speaker 1>So?

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 3>How do we get here?

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Now? I know the importance of it. So that's that's

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>basically what you learned.

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Like when you're crafting making Hot the record, how much

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.959
<v Speaker 2>agency are you given as far as like what your

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>vision is for this record? Or was it just like

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm open and I'll listen to whatever you

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 2>say and I'll do what's necessary.

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 3>I think back then you had to do what was necessary,

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, being a new artist and coming up under

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Missy Elliott and Timberland, and I like, I had no voice.

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 3>I was young, I was new, I was fresh, I

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>had no story. I wasn't a writer. I hadn't been

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 3>through I had been through stuff. But I think at

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 3>the time, I think they were trying to mold me

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 3>as what they saw me to be.

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 3>So Make It Hot was a song that was written

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 3>by me and had vocals that was already in there.

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 3>And I remember when I first heard it, I didn't

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 3>like the song. It was just like, I don't know

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 3>if I liked this song. That wasn't the last song

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 3>that I made you that was.

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>A hit single. It was always the last song, the

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>last three songs, but it was.

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Not that everybody was excited. I remember Sylvia Rown being

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 3>in a studio. I remember Timbaland being there and Missy

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 3>and I come in the studio. I flew to New

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 3>York from Virginia, and I get to your studio and

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 3>everybody's excited about this record, because Missy would get so excited.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 3>And I get in there, I'm like, I'm ready to

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>hear some you know, And I'm like the tone was

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 3>like very like outte and I kept trying to get it,

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>and I remember Missy said, you take this to your

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 3>hotel room and you listen to this song over and over,

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>and when you come back tomorrow, you're gonna have it.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 3>And I remember getting back. I was just like I

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 3>remember telling my mom. I was like, I don't know

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 3>if this is the one, but it's probably all. Always

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 3>that second guess in yourself is always that hit record,

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 3>you know. Like I wasn't bonded to it, but after

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 3>it was recorded and I heard everything that they had

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 3>done to it, and Timbland added some more stuff to it,

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 3>and I was just like, oh my, when it was

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>all said and done, I just fell in love with it,

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 3>but initially I did not like it.

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you, you know, Neptunes also

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>do this as well. There are songs that sound like

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the Neptunes, like off right, that's the Neptunes. Timbaland had

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 2>a rept like whoa, that's instantly Timberlin. It's almost like

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 2>they were crafting a new sound also, right, And I

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>actually went through this with the Neptunes because you know,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>we finally went down there to the studio. So in

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>your mind, you're like, you're thinking of like your top

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>ten Neptune songs and this is what this has to match, right,

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and then he gives you some of the total opposite

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>of that.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You're like, wait a minute, that's not Nord's nothing like

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, wait a minute.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>In your mind, all of your expectations, their hopes for

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 2>to receive, like what was your tip.

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I wanted something like sw V. I wanted some more

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 3>like more singing, less, less breathy songs because I always

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>had a voice. They didn't let me flex ever, and

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I was all And that's probably what you hear today

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 3>when you said I didn't know I had that in me.

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 3>It was always there, but I was being molded and

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 3>created the way what they saw for me. But inside

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 3>it was a girl that just wanted it just belt

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 3>out and just singing some like Mary and just sing

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 3>like Keisha Cole when she first like, they wouldn't kind

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 3>of let me go off like that. It was always

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of like just relaxed, breathy, and then every time

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I would try to, they like, that's not the vibe.

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>That's not the vibe for this song. So it's always

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 3>been living inside of me to just bring out those

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 3>strong roots and kind of write my own story and

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 3>sing the songs that I've always wanted to sing, not

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 3>no shade to them, because I wouldn't be here today

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 3>without that make it hot so and being able to

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>even sing that tone and have that breathy, almost Tony

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Braxton tone, because that's what I was listening to a

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of Tony Braxton and Mariah has that like low

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 3>key tone as well. So I've always could do it,

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 3>but Missy kind of pulled it off, and I always

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 3>really wanted to go in there and sing some like

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 3>SWV stuff.

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you get this deal, what was your

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>definition of making it like right when you get your

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>record deal, not like once you're in it, but before,

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>like for me, it was like having eight pairs of

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Puma sneakers in every color.

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>It was never money for me because that money was

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 3>not there. For some it was. It was not there

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 3>for me. I think it was being around the other

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 3>artists I would meet, go on to meet Jana Jackson,

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I would go on to meet Buster Rhymes and Mary J.

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Blige and some members of TLC, and just to be

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 3>in the room with these artists. That was the definition

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 3>of me making it, because I never thought a little

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 3>girl from Virginia Concrete Jungle that would be sitting in

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 3>the room next to Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson's sister and

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 3>having a conversation and she's looking That's how I knew

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I made it, because Misi had took me in that

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 3>room with these artists that had already been made it,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and they've already like they were already millionaires. And to me,

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 3>I felt like, I'm here, I must have made it

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 3>because I'm not sitting at home anymore. I'm in this

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 3>room with Jane Jackson, or I'm sitting right next to

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Mary J. Blige and or Beyonce Destiny's Child. I'm here

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 3>so it wasn't money, and it wasn't closed. It wasn't fame.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like fortune. It was just it was fame.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 3>It was like, I'm around surrounded by my peers, and

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>that's what let me know I may had made it.

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>How does your life change in terms of like having

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>made it? How jarring was it to your personal circle?

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Your high school friends, your cousins.

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Mm family.

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I had a long talk with an old friend that

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 3>had she passed away about I want to say seven

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and she and I before my career were

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 3>really tight growing up in the concrete jungle of Portsmouth.

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 3>She was really like a friend to me. I was

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 3>the girl that everybody like, they liked me, but they

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 3>couldn't understand, like how is she Like she's pretty, but

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>she's like hard and she she's like us, but she's

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 3>something about her. She was at gap in between, like

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 3>don't mess with her. She is special. And I think

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 3>when I talked to her after my career, she kept

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>asking me why didn't I come back? When I got

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 3>out of school and I moved and it was just

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 3>on tour, right and I wasn't home for a while,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 3>so I missed a lot of engagements that was happening

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 3>around my way, and I was just suddenly pulled out

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 3>of this zone to like this famous thing that I

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 3>had no idea about. And I'm still trying to be

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm hard. I'm from Portsmouth, you know, I'm this girl.

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 3>And she would always say, I wish, you know, you

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 3>would have came back or came back to visit. So

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>it broke my heart that my peers were looking for

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 3>me to come back and I didn't make it back

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 3>in time. And then by the time I made it back,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 3>she wasn't around long enough for us to kick in

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 3>and hangout and for me to tell her my experience

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and my journey coming from Portsmouth and being in the

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 3>industry to share that with her, and that kind of

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 3>broke my heart just to hear that they were rooting

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 3>for me. They were rooting for me, and they didn't

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 3>understand why I didn't make it as far as they

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 3>thought that I should make it.

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>How hard is.

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 2>It to explain or convey to them what it is

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 2>that you're in because again, like when people see from

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 2>a far they're like, well, damn, she's not with them,

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and then where's your maid back at.

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Where's your you know, your beach house. Where's your and

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 1>how did you deal with the stress of trying to

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>maintain it once you got your foot in the door.

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I asked myself that a lot. And I think for me,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I started writing. I started cooking. I know it sounds

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 3>really strange, but that's what's happening. I met this lady

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 3>and she was like a mother to me, and we

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 3>would talk and I would see her. We would be

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 3>talking and she's cut up onions and she's got the

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 3>seasonings and she's we're talking, and she came like a

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 3>mother to me. And I saw how effortless it was

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 3>for her to just cook and talk to me, and

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 3>it started to calm me. I just started doing what

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I saw her doing and that really eased my and

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 3>everybody like, how can you cook so good? And you're

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 3>so young, and where did you learn this from? And

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 3>it's so crazy. I didn't even know that was That

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 3>was my like therapy, cooking and bringing people together. That's

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 3>what it was for me, because it was very stressful.

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 2>It was if you are creative nine times out of ten,

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>just to stay creative, you sometimes have to do creativity

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 2>in other areas, like God right, there was one point

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>where I started taking up photography. There was a point

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 2>when I started doing artwork, and yeah, so for you,

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>it was the culinary arts.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 3>It was culinary arts. I was even thinking about going

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>to culinary art school, and at the time, my boyfriend

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 3>which is now my husband, he was taking me while

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I needed to go to get the credentials and everything

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 3>that I was going to do to join to be

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 3>into culinary school. But then they were like, let's get

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 3>you here and work on this music again. See, I

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 3>keep getting pulled out of something that I really want

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>to do for this music, and it's just like wow,

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 3>I was really about to go to culinary art school

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 3>in Atlanta, Georgia, and I got pulled out to work

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 3>on Queen alanaw them Oh man, Okay, what.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Is your go to dish?

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>What is your I love a roasted chicken and I

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 3>have so many ways of did I do it? And

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm working on a cookbook as well. And I'm also

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>into interior design. So those are things that calmed me

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 3>down and my mind goes somewhere else with color and

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>fabrics and just putting things together and just seeing something

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 3>from nothing and turn into like so whimsical and colorful.

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 3>That makes my heart smile outside of doing music.

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>What is your go to comfort food at two in

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the morning.

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Artists are always eating at odd hours.

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 3>For me, it'll probably be shrimping grits because it's so fast,

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 3>and I've always got some oats somewhere for the grits.

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 3>I always have grit somewhere, and I'll always make a

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 3>nice route very fast, and I have shrimp, so I

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.280
<v Speaker 3>do it shrimp and grit like really quickly, or maybe

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 3>a taco.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to know why you tiele your album electric Blue.

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 3>My brother and I are huge outcast fans, right got it,

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 3>And it's this song and one hundred three thousand is

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 3>yelling something something in the sky is electric Blue, and

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 3>he's yelling it, yelling it, yelling it, and we were

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 3>just like, this would be so cool as an album title.

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 3>And what my brother was like, what you're going through

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 3>right now because he always felt like I was kind

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 3>of like this voice and this like meling infinite sadness.

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>That was a young girl trying to get everybody to

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 3>understand who I was. And then because I had hip

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 3>hop living inside of me, I had church living inside

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 3>of me, and he would be like, you know, this

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 3>would be so dope if you name your album electric Blue,

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 3>and we just named it Electric Blue and for all

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 3>my Electric Blue fans. One day, I'm gonna I'm gonna

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 3>release this album.

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>How many songs were done?

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 3>At least? I have about fourteen songs on there? Go ahead, Yeah, yeah,

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 3>about fourteen songs and I don't know I have it

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 3>and they really want me to release it. So I

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 3>got to figure out what I need to do to

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 3>release this album. Some songs already have been released on YouTube.

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who released them, but I need to

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 3>do it professionally and get it out there for my fans.

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>After the Rockefeller situation didn't work out.

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:22.439
<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, that broke my heart.

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, can you walk us through what

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>you felt your world was going to be like this?

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Where you like, I got to be a civilian again.

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I gotta like, what's the journey of dealing with it

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and then what was the journey in picking up the

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 2>pieces and starting all over again from scratch?

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. I think when I first had the

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 3>idea that I wanted to be part of Rockefella, I

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 3>thought it was Gonna. I thought, I that light bulb

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 3>went off in my head. One night I had was

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I was back at home. I wasn't doing too good

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 3>and I was staying over at my for a while

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 3>and I remember I think BT was on late night

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 3>and they were showing like some hip hop videos and

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I want to be signed to Rockefeller Records.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 3>It was that light bulb that went off, like I

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 3>don't think they have any like girls singers that you

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 3>know that's kind of got a little hip hop, you know,

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing going on. And I just manifested that.

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 3>And then it happened. I was working with Kenny Barnes.

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 3>He introduced me to Damon Dash and they loved me

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 3>over there. They were like, we got you, don't worry

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 3>about it. And then I started working on music and

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 3>the music was great. I made all these great relationships

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 3>and I get home, I'll go back to Virginia and

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I read on the internet that Rockefella is splitting up,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I felt shattered. I was like, here

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 3>we go again. I'm just like, what is happening with

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 3>my luck? You know? And I just wasn't feeling what

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 3>they wanted to continue to do. Like I was cool

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 3>with Damon Dash and we were like, you know, he

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 3>was like, I got something else I want to do

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 3>with you, and I just felt like down. I was

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 3>just like I'm back at home again, and I don't

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 3>know where to pick up the pieces from. But I

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 3>do know. I kept my relationships with Damon Dash and

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>he would call me maybe a few years later and say,

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 3>I got another situation for you. And this was the

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Black Key situation, which opened up a.

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Whole nother How did that even come to be?

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 3>The Damon Dash called me and like I said, I'm

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 3>glad I project. Yeah, he was doing nothing.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was part of.

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 3>The black rock I was the girls singer that was

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 3>doing all that's me. Yeah. And and then the Black

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Keys asked me to come to Muscall Shows, Alabama to

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 3>work on the Brothers album. And then that's where the

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 3>thought of this soul thing that was always living in

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 3>me it just woke up. It just woke right on up,

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, this is what I want to do.

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>What was it like to be.

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.280
<v Speaker 2>In the studio, the same studio that I believe Aretha

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Franklin created her Landmark never loved demand the way I

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>loved you, respecting all those classic songs like Muscle Shoals

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 2>is probably haunted, legendary, legendary.

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 3>It is legendary, it is. It had its moments. It

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 3>felt a little creepy, but you can feel the vibe

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 3>of they left. I mean, everything is still the way

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 3>it is. They have the old pictures, they have Atta James,

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>they have Aretha, they have Sonny and Share even record

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 3>there and it's given this ghost there for sure, it's giving.

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here's a fun fact that not many people know.

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 2>George Michael wrote Careless Whisper mm HM in nineteen eighty

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 2>two and right before whim becomes an idea.

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, I believe that.

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Jerry Wexler, you know, Riata Franklin's producer, decided to fly

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>George over to America to record some demos, and the

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 2>original Careless Whisper was recorded in Muscle Showl's studio as

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 2>a you know, a totally different song, like different than

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the saxophone thing that we know, right, but yeah, he

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>not many people know that that's like one of the

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>uh that's where kind of where Careless Whisper was born.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 2>But for you, how did you in terms of joining

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 2>the well what I call the dap King cult of Brooklyn.

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 2>How familiar were you with those guys as far as

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>their vindage?

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Shund was concerned and I.

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Had no idea about dep Tones, deb King, Sharon Jones,

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Lee Fields, Charles Bradley. When I heard Charles Bradley and

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Sharon Jones for the first time, I thought that they

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 3>were artists of yesteryear. I was like, who is this?

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 3>And this song is hitting me, It's bringing out all

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 3>these emotions. It was like, no, he's alive and he

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 3>just recorded this last I'll say, get out of here.

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Who put.

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 3>One of the girls that was hanging out with Damon Dash?

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 3>She put me on because I think Dan from Black

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Keys have put her on because they were huge fans

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 3>of Lee Fields. And it's so crazy because it's parallel

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 3>because I met Leon Michaels, who produced Lee Fields, and

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know Leon when I was working with the

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Black Keys, so it's kind of parallel. And I'm just like,

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it was all meant to be. It was

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>all manifested in itself, and they are still working together

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 3>today and we all know each other, we all work together,

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's just like, I don't know It's just so

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 3>crazy that when I first heard Lee Fields and then

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 3>I met him and then Leon asked me if I

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 3>would come and write on his album Faithful Man, I

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 3>was just like, nobody has ever asked me. Everybody always,

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, when I was coming up, like you need writers,

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.919
<v Speaker 3>you need help, and he let me do my thing.

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 3>And I take my head off to him, because I

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 3>think initially Michael Blue Williams, who managed Outcasts, once told

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 3>me the best advice that I ever could have gotten

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 3>in my career, was like, Nicole, what you need to

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 3>do is get a pin and get some paper and

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 3>start writing. And I was like, what does that mean?

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 3>What does that look like? For me? When I think

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 3>about it now, I just look around and observe everything,

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 3>my feelings, my emotions, my family, my friends, out of

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>my window. Whatever I see, I put it on paper

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's my heart and my emotions. And I think

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 3>that's what kind of saved my career, is becoming a songwriter.

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 2>What was it like at least the beginning of presenting

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 2>this live presentation like the Soulful Live thing.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 3>I think presenting the Soulful Live Show was something new

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 3>for me because I had been singing for many years,

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't really perform as much as I felt

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 3>like I should as an artist. I kind of was

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 3>always like put in the background somehow. I'm like, why

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 3>am I alway back here? I would always ask myself.

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I would see other artists doing a lot of things

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 3>and performing and all over the place, and I was

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 3>always this girl that was eager to just get and

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 3>do the music and not always be in the studio.

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:21.879
<v Speaker 3>I would write a lot of music, but a lot

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 3>of that music would never see the light of day.

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 3>You know. I have a lot of music that it's

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 3>somewhere in a laptop, somewhere on a dat somewhere that's somewhere,

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 3>or it's just lyrics and a notebook. So when it

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 3>was time for me to do a live show, like

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, I get really nervous because it starts first

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 3>with the writing and you got to write these songs

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 3>that are you know, transparent, and I felt like I've

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 3>been doing that for the last five years. It's just

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 3>writing stuff that people want to hear, because I'm actually

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 3>a living proof and that's living these things, right. And

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 3>so when you get the ticket sales and you get there,

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 3>you get the outfit, you get the rehearsal, and then

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 3>you get out there on that stage and it's like

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and I I'm overwhelmed because I, like I said, I

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 3>have never really experienced it until now, the love that

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 3>people have for me as an artist. And they're singing

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 3>these not they're not singing they know, make it hot,

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 3>but they're singing songs after make it hot? What was made?

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? I feel like I'm blessed

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 3>of a blessed artist to not be still singing the

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 3>same tune as some I see some artists that I

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 3>came up with, they're still singing the same songs. And

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if me being such a creative person,

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I gotta do something new always, I

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 3>gotta have something fresh, and to see these even when

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 3>I go overseas and it's like hitting me that I'm

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:40.919
<v Speaker 3>in another country. I'm not singing make it Hot. I'm

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 3>singing maybe guilty, and these people are yelling these lyrics

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 3>back at me. And I'm overwhelmed because I wasn't the

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 3>artist that was getting the love and the platform that

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I should have been getting many years ago to perform

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 3>at places and to do shows I was always kind

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 3>of like in the background, So it makes me feel.

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Great that said in your live presentation, do you now

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>present your second act? Mm hmm, like the Make It

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Hot the album, Like, do any of those songs ever find

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 2>their way back in the set list sort of refiltered

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and oh.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, we do like a mash up. We

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 3>do like a sort of a mash up of the nineties.

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 3>I let people know I'm about to take you on

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 3>a journey from the nineties, and they get so excited

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 3>because they know what that means. Because you have some

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.879
<v Speaker 3>people that are there that has no idea that I'm

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Nicole Ray Cole Ray, and they're like they're trying to

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 3>like connect the dots, like is that her or I

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know? And then when I'm start saying I see

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 3>people kind of like confused and they're like, oh, Mike,

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 3>that is her.

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 3>It always makes me smile and laugh that I have

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 3>my older fans and I have new fans that are

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 3>they know I'm Lady Ray, but then when they find

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 3>out I'm the Cold Ray, It's a whole nother like

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 3>thing happening.

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>What would you say that cover Girl represents in terms

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.760
<v Speaker 1>of where you are now today.

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I think Cover Girl is that little girl that was

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:10.760
<v Speaker 3>so eager and bright eyed, ready for the business, ready

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 3>for the music business without getting my heart broken, and

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 3>just brave right that I felt like I was so

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 3>brave before any of all of this, and I wanted

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 3>to bring that spirit back into the music and my

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 3>church roots and how I preach about, you know, self

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.879
<v Speaker 3>care and taking care of yourself. And I think that's

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 3>how Cover Girl was born. Like I'm like, I need

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 3>to get back to where I was because Peace to

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 3>me was so serious. I was pregnant with my daughter.

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 3>I was about seven months pregnant with her when I

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 3>was working on that album, and I didn't know what

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna do, but she gave me everything that

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.720
<v Speaker 3>I needed to give for that album, and I felt

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 3>like I'm raising a young child. I'm a new mom.

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.959
<v Speaker 3>And I think now with Cover Girl, she's here, my daughter,

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 3>she's seven, she's my inspiration, she is the light of

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:58.720
<v Speaker 3>my life. She's given me all the courage and everything

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 3>that I need, and that little girl that lived inside

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 3>of me is her And so I wanted to kind

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 3>of just pay homage back to that and get back

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 3>to that free vibe, being brave, not caring about anything,

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 3>and just looking right at myself and saying this is

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 3>who I am.

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Is she putting two and two together of what you

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 2>do and what you do for a living.

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:23.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. She took one of my albums the other day

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 3>and put it in her book bag and she's like, Mom,

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 3>can you sign this? This is for my teacher? And

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I signed it for her, she said, and I was like,

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 3>she got home, she said, my teacher said she's going

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to listen to this on the weekend. And I was like, oh,

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 3>so she knows. She see my merch. She sees the merch.

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 3>She sees me like rehearsing my songs. She's even been

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 3>on tour on the tour bus and got on stage

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.320
<v Speaker 3>and sang with me. So she's putting too one two together.

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 3>A voice, she has a voice, she is, Oh, I

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 3>can't believe it.

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously if she has a voice, then you know

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 2>she'll follow the lineage, what was the best advice that

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>you were given and what was the worst advice you

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 2>were given?

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Hmm. The best advice that I was given was to

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 3>become a songwriter, and the worst advice I was given

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 3>was to to It's kind of crazy because it kind

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 3>of is in the same vein as being a songwriter,

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Like take your artist out of being a songwriter and

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 3>be a songwriter, and I'm like, I'm still an artist,

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 3>got you know? So it was the first advice, the

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 3>best advice was to be a songwriter, and that's what

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 3>you need to do. And then as I, you know,

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 3>start writing and I was writing so good, everybody's like,

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, you're a good songwriter, but you need to

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:44.399
<v Speaker 3>take your artist. Just take your artist out of being

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 3>a songwriter. And I'm like, I can write songs all

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 3>the time. I want to give the artist the best

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 3>song that I can give them, not because I'm trying out.

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to not be an artist. So it's just strange. Yeah,

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:57.240
<v Speaker 3>got itself.

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 2>For your daughter, do you have dreams or wishes for

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>her to also follow in your footsteps if that's what

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 2>she wants to do, or.

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I want her to be free at whatever it is

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.840
<v Speaker 3>that she does. And I would not be a mom manger.

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I would if she was to get in the industry,

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 3>I would find her the best team that she could

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 3>ever have. But I think for me, I want her

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 3>to be happy and whatever it is she wants to

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 3>be a neuroscientist. She wants to be a veterinarian. And

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 3>if that's what she she wants to get on stage

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 3>with her old mom when I'm about sixty seventy and

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:32.239
<v Speaker 3>come and sing with me. She can, and that would

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.279
<v Speaker 3>make my heart smile. But I want her to be

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 3>happy and to do what makes her happy in life.

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I would not stop her, but I would encourage her

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 3>to do whatever makes her happy.

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful.

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 2>What I like about your projects is that you're able

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 2>to somehow musically astro travel to different eras you know,

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 2>sounds like the sixties, late sixties, seventies, hearing traces of

0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:58.280
<v Speaker 2>disco and whatnot.

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>What is your life like?

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Dream conquering kind of mountain to climb as far as

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 2>your creativity is concerned.

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I think for me, my first love would be hip hop, right,

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 3>so I think next I'm definitely going on this hip

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I am. I. I am a very secret MC and

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people they like, I want to see

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 3>what you do, and I'm like my brother, you know.

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 3>He he was the man of the house for a

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 3>long time as a kid, and he was the one

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 3>who put me onto like leaders of the new School

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 3>and Wu Tang and like Heavy D and the Boys

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 3>and and all of these artists. I think Pete Rock

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 3>can see smooth like I'm a rap head, you know.

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 3>So I think next for me is like going back

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 3>to my hip hop roots for sure. That's that's what

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 3>I That's what I really would love to do. Oh yeah,

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 3>that would be beautiful.

0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 1>When you get in mind. Because you know is a

0:53:58.520 --> 0:53:59.240
<v Speaker 1>big fan of yours.

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I really want to thank you for taking the time

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.319
<v Speaker 2>out and speaking to us here at the Quest Love Show.

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm such a fan of yours and I love

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>a good pivot.

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 2>To me, that's one of the main subjects that I

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 2>try to convey with every episode that I do to

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the audience, which is basically oftentimes we might hit a

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 2>dead end wall or a street and just be like, well,

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 2>that's it, it's over.

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm really glad you didn't give up.

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 2>And I love your your your patience, and I love

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 2>the pivot that you've done with your creativity.

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 1>And forever fan of yours and I thank you, oh, thank.

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 3>You, thank you. I'm a forever fan of you guys,

0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:42.280
<v Speaker 3>and you thanks for having me. This has made my week.

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. I was so excited about this, and I

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 3>would love to work and do some music with you.

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I would love to It would just be an honor.

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes all right, Lady ray Ladies and gentlemen, see I

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 1>almost Sittingnicole ring. Lady Rayleies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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