1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: I got to tell you today's show is a very 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: different show. I have just gotten back from Charlie Kirk's funeral. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: I was there with Senata Cruz and we were there 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: to witness. I think what is going to go down 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: in history is one of the most important days in 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: modern history when it comes to our faith, Christianity and 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: people coming to Christ. It was the biggest leaders in 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the country in a room and it wasn't political. It 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: was about Charlie's life, his legacy and what he believed 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: in and how he wanted to bring people to Christ 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: and wanted to bring people together and wanted to save 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: this country. And that to me was one of the 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: most amazing parts about the day. So we are going 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: to have a special show today with Senata Cruz and 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I as we do our normal podcast together. But I 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: want you to hear it as we have just landed 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: back here and it's one am in the morning Central, 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: two o'clock Eastern right now, and I want you to 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: just hear about the day, what we saw, what we heard, 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: who we spoke with, and here is just us downloading 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: a day that I will never forget, that was filled 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: with love and joy and kindness, in the gospel. 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: Today was I think maybe one of the most incredible 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: things I've ever witnessed in my life. And I'm saying 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: that going to memorial service. But Centata, I think you 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: probably feel the exact same way that I do that 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: this was a day where I feel blessed. I feel 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: honored that we were able to be there, to be 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: a part of it. I feel like I'm watching a 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: revival take place that is so much bigger than politics, 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: and I think what we've witnessed today was the start 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: of something that could transform this country. They're now saying 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: over a hundred million was number of streams coming out 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: of this event, and well over two hundred thousand people 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: showed up, the majority of them without a ticket to 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: go to the memorial service. 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: It was incredible. 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: It was extraordinary. 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: Man. 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: It is right now, twelve nineteen am, Sunday night, early 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: Monday morning. You and I spent the entire day in 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: Arizona at the memorial service for Charlie Kirk, and I 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: got to say, this was a powerful day. It was powerful. 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: Number One, we were grieving our friend. Both you and 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: I knew Charlie really well. I talked to him not 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: many weeks ago. You know, I met him when he 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: was eighteen years old. And the last two weeks have 49 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: been a hard week. You and I both watched our 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: friend murdered on live video online, and the agony we 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 3: felt was felt without iperbole, by millions of Americans who 52 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: Charlie had touched. There was grief, there was grieving, but 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: I got to tell you, as much as there was 54 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: grief and then there were certainly tears. There were tears 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: for Erica, tears for his two children that will never 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: know their daddy. But today the atmosphere, more than anything, 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: was one of celebration. It was one of celebrating a 58 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: life well lived. It was one of celebrating a legacy 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: an example. You know, I got to say, none of 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: us know when. 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: We will go. 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: We don't know if we'll be here tomorrow. We don't 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: know if we'll be here in ten years and twenty years, 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: in fifty years. But I will tell you there's not 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: a one of us who wouldn't hope to be remembered 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: the way Charlie was today. Yeah, I mean, what a 67 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: life well lived and what a celebration. And you mentioned revival, 68 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: that was a term that was used over and over 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: and over again by speakers today, and there was a 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: feel of there was a feel you know. I saw 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: the Babylon Bee had a story today about the devil saying, 72 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: uh oh, I went too far, And I gotta say 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: it is amazing, you know. Earlier today, Charlie Kirk's producer 74 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: of his podcast sent out a tweet and the tweet said, 75 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: I was just told that we have more press interest 76 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: in sunday celebration of Charlie Kirk's life and legacy than 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: there is for the Super Bowl. The Gospel of Jesus 78 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: Christ is about to be proclaimed to the largest audience 79 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: in the history of humanity. To God be the Glory. 80 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: And I got to say. A friend of mine who's 81 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: a pastor, he texted that to me, and I just said, Amen, 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: God is sovereign and God is good. And look, none 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: of us know why God allowed this ranged killer to 84 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: take Charlie's life, to take it too early, to take 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: it at just age thirty one. But I have to say, 86 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: is it is breathtaking. Number One, I think it is 87 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: very likely that in the last two weeks more people 88 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: have listened to Charlie Kirk than listened in his entire life. 89 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: It has been amazing the penetration, and this was it did. 90 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: It felt like a Billy Graham revival. And the degree 91 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: to which you know, I'll tell you Friday night, I 92 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: was at a youth summit in Texas and two to 93 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: three thousand young people came out to it. The attendance 94 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: more than doubled what it typically was, and it ended 95 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: up being just a remembrance of Charlie Kirk. And I 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: spoke at it. I'll tell you. At the beginning, a 97 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: pastor preached and about two hundred young people gave their 98 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: lives to cry at a gathering. 99 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: Incredible. 100 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: It's incredible in Texas on a Friday night, and that 101 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: it was staggering. This you know, this was in the 102 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: football stadium in Phoenix, Arizona. It's a huge stadium. People 103 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: started showing up at four and four thirty in the 104 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: morning to line up to get in. And if you 105 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: were there, I ran into people who were there by 106 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: eight am. They didn't get in. The program started at eleven. 107 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: If you showed up at eight, you didn't make it in. 108 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: And and and the over one hundred million views is 109 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: astonishing and powerful, and I think transformational. The Gospel was 110 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: proclaimed to millions today, and I think a lot of 111 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: people in the United States and across the world are 112 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: listening to what is said and and are are moved. 113 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm reminded of Jesus in the New Testament. 114 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: Gives the parallel of the parable, and gives the parable 115 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: of sowing seeds, and sowing seeds is spreading the gospel. 116 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: And some of the seeds fall on rocky soil. Uh, 117 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: some of the seeds are eaten by birds. But some 118 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: of the seeds fall in fertile ground, and and and 119 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: they take root, and they bear fruit and and not 120 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: everyone who watched and listened to the service today is 121 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: going to have their life transformed. But A but I 122 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: think an astonishing number are and and I pray and 123 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: I think you do too, that that that revival comes 124 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: from this, that that that Charlie's death becomes a moment, 125 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: particularly for young people, for young people to say, you 126 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: know what, what he had? I want my life to 127 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: I want that kind of piece. 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But from the moment that I left Houston, 178 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: you and I flew separately and I was flying in 179 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: to when we touched down in Arizona, amazing grace broke 180 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: out on the plane. 181 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: And I was able to play that video because that 182 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: video is beautiful, to describe it, paint the scene and 183 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 3: then play the video. 184 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we landed and it was an organic moment that 185 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: you're on. 186 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: A United flight. 187 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not Southwest is the best way I 188 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: can describe it. This is a United flight. This is 189 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: not normal on a United flight, and it just started 190 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: and and I want to play it for you because 191 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear the very end of what I what, 192 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: what I was able to witness, which was just incredible, 193 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: And I grabbed my phone out because I was I 194 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: wanted to just share it. And it was as we 195 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: landed and it was just people singing amazing grace on 196 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: a United flight number one. What a testimony to to everyone. 197 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Incredible testimony from just a standpoint of the flight attendants 198 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: and in the in the the there was there was 199 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 1: I think it was pretty clear there was tears in 200 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: the eyes of one of the pilots when we were 201 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: walking off the plane and the people were singing, and 202 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I want to play it for you, and it went 203 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: viral yesterday and then Fox News played it this morning 204 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: when I was on. They put it up on Fox 205 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: News dot com and it's hit millions and millions of views, 206 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: and that just tells you the power I think of 207 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: of Charlie's legacy. But but listen to this on the plane. 208 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 209 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: For Charlie. 210 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you can hear it there, and it was 211 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: it was a moment that I'm thankful I was able 212 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: to capture on video. 213 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: But that was the mood. And I think the other thing. 214 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: You got up early this morning and you went to 215 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: the stadium to do Maria's show. I got up early 216 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: as well and was going to go do Fox beforehand. 217 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: The number of people that were at the stadium without 218 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: a ticket, that just on blind faith because they felt 219 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: like they just needed to be there. 220 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: They just went and they were going to get. 221 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: Idiom six in the morning, and there was a line 222 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: of people. It wasn't one or two, it was a 223 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: steady line. And you know what, it looked like the 224 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. It looked like the Final Four or if 225 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: you know, any major sporting event, except this was at 226 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: six in the morning, and it was a constant line 227 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: of people just walking to the stadium. They wanted to 228 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: pay their respects to Charlie. They wanted to honor his legacy. 229 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: They wanted to give thanks, give thanks for a life 230 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: well lived, and and and that that was incredibly impactful. 231 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: And I will say we heard a lot of really 232 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: powerful remarks, a lineup of one after the other after 233 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: the other. I will say, by far, the most impactful 234 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: speech was from Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, And and you 235 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 3: and I we were sitting next to each other in 236 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: the memorial and we both looked at each other and 237 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: said the same thing. When she finished, we just said wow, 238 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: like it was. 239 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: It was. 240 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: It actually reminded me of years ago. If you remember 241 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: Ben Carson's speech at the National Prayer Breakfast that he 242 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: gave a speech or the Obama presidency, and it went 243 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: viral nationally, and it it launched Ben Carson, and it 244 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: it made him a national superstar. Erica's speech had had 245 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: that power. And I think for a lot of people 246 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: who had never seen her before that they were turning 247 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: on their TV, they were opening their phone or their computer. 248 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: The strength. 249 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 5: It took. 250 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: To give that speech less than two weeks after you've 251 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: lost your husband, less than two weeks after you've lost 252 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: the father of your kids, it boggles the mind. And 253 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: you could see her before she went up, just stopping 254 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: and just just praying, God give me the strength to 255 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: make it through this, and and and and she was 256 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: so openly relying on on on God's strength. That's part 257 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: of what made it so unbelievably powerful. I'll tell you 258 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: at the beginning, she made a really important point, a 259 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: point distinguishing what the reaction was across American across the 260 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: world to Charlie's murder compared to something like like George 261 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: Floyd being killed and the riots and everything that played out. 262 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: Give a listen to what Erica Kirk said on this point. 263 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 6: Most of all, God's mercy and God's love have been 264 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 6: revealed to me these past ten days after Charlie's assassination. 265 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: We didn't see violence, we didn't see rioting, we didn't 266 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: see revolution. Instead, we saw what my husband, oh, he's 267 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: afraid he would see in this country. 268 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: We saw revival. 269 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: You know. 270 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: When she walked up there, I was choked up. You were, 271 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: and I think everyone every tears in their eyes. Yeah, 272 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: it was how is she going to do this? You 273 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: and I had the conversation. I don't know if I 274 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: could have done that. And we do this for a living. 275 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you and I speak a lot. 276 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of I think, just watching God work 277 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: in that room. I walked to that room earlier in 278 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the day, you and I. You came back after Maria 279 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: and I left early because we knew it was just 280 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: there were so many people there. I abandoned the car 281 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: and walked a mile and a half just trying to 282 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: get into the stadium and seeing all the people that 283 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: weren't going to get in, and they were joyful, they 284 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: weren't angry, they were praying. 285 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: I saw groups holding him. 286 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: There's a whole second stadium filled with people watching it 287 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: that we're just watching it on TV. 288 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I walked in. 289 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I finally got inside and was meeting one of the 290 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: Fox producers to get down to the risers, and they 291 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: were singing the worship music that you and I hear 292 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: at church when we go on Sundays before the pastor speaks. 293 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: I literally on Fox and I'm not a crier, but 294 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: like talking about now it's even because this has been 295 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: an incredible and a sad but amazing day. I told 296 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: them on air, I was like, I've never felt in 297 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: my life the Holy Spirit's presence and the way that 298 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: I felt it today. Ever, and I'm forty three and 299 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: I've been to some pretty cool, amazing Christian events, promise 300 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: keepers and different things that you've been to. It was 301 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: a feeling I will never forget. And it was very 302 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: clear that God's presence were there. And if you were 303 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: in that room, and I hope if you were watching 304 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: it on TV, you felt it too, because what she 305 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: was able to do was by the grace of God, 306 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: who gave her the power and the strength to do it, 307 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: because on your own, no one could do that. 308 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely that there was one portion of her speech that 309 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: I think will go down as the most memorable, the 310 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: most consequential, and the most profound, and I want to 311 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: want you to just just to listen to it, because, 312 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: to be honest, if you heard nothing else that happened 313 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: today at Charlie Kirk's memorial service, hear these two minutes, 314 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: because this was the entirety of the service boiled down 315 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: in two minutes. 316 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: My husband, Charlie. 317 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 6: He wanted to save. 318 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: Young men. 319 00:18:44,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 6: Just like the one who took his life, that young man, 320 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: that young. 321 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 5: Man on the cross. 322 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: Our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know. 323 00:19:19,960 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 5: What they do. That man, that young man, I forgive him. 324 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 6: I forgive him because it was what Christ did and 325 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 6: is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate. 326 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 5: Is not hate. 327 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 6: The answer we know from the Gospel is love and 328 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 6: always love, love for our enemies, and love for those 329 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 6: who persecute us. 330 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: You and I were there on the second row watching 331 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: those words, and you and I talked about it afterwards. 332 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could have done that that quickly. 333 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: I know God says that we're supposed to forgive those 334 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: who have wronged us. But you want to talk about 335 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: a ministry to the world in that moment. If you 336 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: are not a Christian, you have to be asking yourself 337 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: a question. What is it that she has that I 338 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: don't How could she forgive in this moment? And why 339 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: would Charlie want her to forgive after what happened to Charlie. 340 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that we don't want justice, but wow. 341 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: Look when she said that, I had tears in my eyes, 342 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: You had tears in your eyes. Every one of us 343 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand people had tears in her eyes. And 344 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: when she started on that, when she referenced Jesus on 345 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: the Cross, I knew where it was going. I knew 346 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: what she was planning to say, and she was holding 347 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: my breath for because look, you just you and I 348 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: both had this conversation spontaneously walking out. To be honest, 349 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: I don't think I could say that I would want to, 350 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: it would be the right thing to do to do, 351 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: I like, I cannot imagine being in the situation she 352 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: is in and getting those words out, not just breaking down, 353 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: not breaking down with rage, breaking down with tears and 354 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 3: in it was it was the Holy Spirit that helped 355 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: her get that out, because there's no there is not 356 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: a human strength that can say that. And one of 357 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: the amazing things, I mean, we talked a minute ago 358 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: about this being one of, if not the largest presentation 359 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: of the Gospel in history. What you just said, you 360 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: and I talked about there are millions of people who 361 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: watch this who are not Christians who have to have said, 362 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: where did that come from? I don't understand. Why would 363 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: you forgive someone who murdered your husband? Yeah, and that 364 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: I hope and pray and believe that it caused many 365 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 3: people to say, you know, maybe I should ask a 366 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: few more questions about about Jesus. Maybe maybe I should 367 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: go read the Bible. Maybe did Jesus really say on 368 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: the cross, Father, forgive them for they know not what 369 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: they do? Why would he say that when they were 370 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: murdering him. That's what Jesus said as he was nailed 371 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: to the cross, as he was hanging there dying. Yeah, 372 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: Jesus asked God to forgive the people who killed him. 373 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: And it was you know, I'll tell you. I saw 374 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: on Twitter a tweet from a woman named Sanna IBRAHEMI 375 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: and I don't don't know her, but this this tweet 376 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: struck struck me. I'm just gonna read it to you. 377 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: I retweeted it. I listened to Erica Kirk's full speech 378 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: at the memorial, and I want to share a few 379 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: thoughts that came to me while live streaming the event. 380 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 3: This is not political. First, I should say that I 381 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 3: grew up as a Muslim in a Muslim country. I 382 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: don't know enough about Christianity to say if what I 383 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: witnessed is rooted in faith or culture. But what struck 384 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: me most is how, even though death is heavy and 385 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: this was by nature a sad occasion, the entire event 386 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: carried a celebratory spirit that honored life. That contrast hit 387 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: me deeply. In Islam, even though we believe that good 388 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: people go to heaven, the relationship with God is taught 389 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: through fear. Funerals are overwhelmingly sad, often filled with warnings 390 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 3: of the terrifying first night in the grave. Growing up 391 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: hearing that and then witnessing people's celebrate life, speak of 392 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: God's love and remember someone through the impact he had 393 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: on others, it felt so refreshing and positive. Second, I 394 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: was profoundly moved by Erica Kirk's words. I cannot fathom 395 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: the strength it takes to stand and deliver such a 396 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: meaningful speech after losing the love of your life. But 397 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: even more than that, the grace it takes to forgive 398 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: the very perse person who destroyed your world. I cannot 399 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: imagine myself standing on a stage sending love to those 400 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: who cheered your husband's murder, or inviting others to spread 401 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 3: God's love in response, because, as she said, we do 402 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 3: not respond to hate with hate. That is powerful beyond words. Again, 403 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: I am ignorant when it comes to Christianity, but if 404 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: this is what it truly embodies, then I am envious 405 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: of those who get to experience that feeling. I think 406 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: this young lady is not alone, and I think that 407 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: message touched millions. And I got to say it was 408 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 3: an incredible privilege to be there and witness it firsthand 409 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: and be part of I think, what is a significant 410 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: moment in the history of America and maybe the history 411 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: of the. 412 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: World to take a moment and I want to talk 413 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: to you real quick about what you can do to 414 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: help the people in Israel. It was nearly two years 415 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: ago that the terrorists murdered more than twelve hundred innocent 416 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: Israelis and they took two hundred and fifty hostages. Today, 417 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: it seems as if the cries of the dead and 418 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: dying have been drowned out by the shouts of anti 419 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: Semitism and just pure hatred, not just in America but 420 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: around the world. And the most brutal attack on Jewish 421 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: people happened. It happened since the Holocaust, and now it's 422 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: like they're trying to act like it never happened. Now, 423 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: this is where it is important for us to stand 424 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: with the people in Israel. It's a movement of love 425 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: and support for the people of Israel, and this is 426 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: where I want you to get involved. It is called 427 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: Flags of Fellowship. It's being organized by the International Fellowship 428 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: of Christians and Jews. On October fifth, you can stand 429 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: with Israel and the victims proudly. Just a few weeks away, 430 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: millions across America will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in 431 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: honor and solidarity with the victims of October seventh, twenty 432 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: twenty three, and stand with their grieving families. You can 433 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: be a part of this movement as well. And that's 434 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: what I love about what IFCJ does. They're making sure 435 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: that the world knows there are lots of people of 436 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: faith in this country and friends and advocates for Israel. 437 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: They're going to stand with them, you can get more 438 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, 439 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: including your church. There are going to be countless church 440 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: around the country. They're going to plant flags as well. 441 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: So all you have to do to get involved with 442 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Flags of Fellowship movement is go to IFCJ dot org. 443 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: That's IFCJ dot org Stand with Israel on October fifth, 444 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: it's just a few weeks away. And if your church 445 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: you think would want to be involved, you can also 446 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: find out more about how to get your church to 447 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: be involved on a special Sunday at I have CJ 448 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: dot org. That's if CJ dot org. One of the 449 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: things I think that is so cool that came out 450 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: of this that is just something that no one could 451 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: have planned, is how many people are now sharing their 452 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: own faith and sharing the gospel. You and I have 453 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: talked more about our faith on this podcast in the 454 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: last two weeks than we have ever before. And it's 455 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: not that we're afraid to talk about our faith, but 456 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about what's happening in the world 457 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: in politics, JD Vance said. 458 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: And that was something really profound. JD said as he 459 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: said that he often felt uncomfortable talking about faith. And 460 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: he made the same comment that he's talked more about 461 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: faith in the last two weeks than he has probably 462 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: in his entire life. 463 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: And I mean even this morning. I had two times. 464 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I was on Fox this morning before the before it started, 465 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: and the entire conversation was not about politics. The entire 466 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: conversation was about faith. Yeah, that his life being taken 467 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: has given the opportunity for all of us to share faith, 468 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: and I think in a more bold way, in a 469 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: more proud way, and a more I'm not afraid to 470 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: share my faith. I think sometimes I think I'm in 471 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: the world of politics and that's maybe not my place 472 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: to be doing that as much. I'm going to change 473 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: my mentality on that, I think forever moving forward. 474 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: And I can think of a very few sentiments that would 475 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: make Charlie happier than that. 476 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was the whole time, it was about faith. 477 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: If you look at today, I also think one of 478 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: the most incredible things was you and I were sitting 479 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: there with the most powerful people in the world, certainly 480 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: in the conservative movement, where we're all in the political world, 481 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: and the entire thing was about God. I've never seen 482 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: that before. I've never been a part of that before. 483 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: No, And at the very end, President Trump spoke and 484 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: he gave I think, very remarks, But I want you 485 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: to listen to what he said, in particular about Erica 486 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: and her testimony. Here here, give a listen to Charlie's 487 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: incredible and beautiful widow. 488 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 5: Erica. 489 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 7: We know the weight of this monumental loss is almost unbearable. 490 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: But even in the midst of heartache, pain too great to. 491 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: Even fathom, you have somehow found the strength and deep 492 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 3: faith to be a comfort to millions and millions of people. 493 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 7: And thank you very much, Erica, Thank you very much. 494 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: You and I have seen Donald Trump give a lot 495 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: of speeches. This was one of the most I think, somber, 496 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: sincere and one of the most incredible speeches I think 497 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump that had nothing to really do with him. 498 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: Well, and President Trump knew Charlie. 499 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: Well, Charlie has been a lot at least rattled by it. 500 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: Charlie Charlie in the twenty sixteen campaign, was Don Junior's 501 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: body man. He traveled with Don Junior all over the 502 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: country and Charlie helped mobilize young people for the twenty 503 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: sixteen election. He helped mobilize young people for the twenty 504 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: twenty election. He played a really, really integral part in 505 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: the victory in twenty twenty four. And President Trump has 506 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: spent a lot of time with Charlie Kirk. Just about 507 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: everyone in the White House has. I mean, it was 508 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: one of the things the entire White House has shaken. 509 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: This is not some distant person they don't know. This 510 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: touched almost everyone who works in the Trump administration had 511 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: connections to Charlie, had personal connections, and they were shaken 512 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: by it. And you know, one of the bits of 513 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: news that broke this week that I thought it was 514 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: a small snippet, but it encapsulated who Charlie was well. 515 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: And Van Jones, you and I both know well he's 516 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: very much a man of the left and maybe even 517 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: far left. He's not someone who you would typically envision 518 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: saying nice things about Charlie Kirk. But I want you 519 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: to listen to what he said in the last few 520 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: days about his last interaction with Charlie Kirk. 521 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk and I were not friends at all. In fact, 522 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 7: the last week of his life, we were beef and hard, 523 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 7: beefing online, beefing on air, but the day before he died, 524 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 7: he did something that shocked me. He sent me a 525 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 7: personal message calling for a personal dialogue, wanted me to 526 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 7: come on the show. He said we could be gentlemen together. 527 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 7: He said we could deal with our disagreements agreeably. And 528 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 7: in the past week and a half, just watching people 529 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 7: talk about civil wars and censorship and all this stuff 530 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 7: coming out of his death, I just thought it was 531 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 7: important to let people know, don't put that on Charlie Kirk, 532 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 7: because the last day of his life he was reaching 533 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 7: out to have not more censorship, more conversation, more dialogue 534 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 7: with somebody who honestly was one of his adversaries. Me 535 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 7: and I just wanted to share that with the world, 536 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 7: and I hope that maybe it might help somebody on 537 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 7: both sides deal with issues more like you did. 538 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: Then putting that out there immediately brought me to today. You 539 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: and I were sitting there and we looked over to 540 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: the right of us, and you leaned over and you said, 541 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: there's Elon. And several weeks or months ago, Charlie had 542 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: said that he wanted Donald Trump and Elon to make up. Yep. 543 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: We then a few minutes later see Elon in the 544 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: box with President Trump. They hugged the President, patted him 545 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: on the chest, and he tweeted out a picture Elon 546 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: did of them talking, and all it said was for Charlie, 547 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about bringing people back together, 548 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: that's incredible. 549 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: I will say I respect Van Jones for putting that out. 550 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 3: You know Van better than I do. But he didn't 551 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: have to put that out. He didn't have to say that. 552 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 3: And I do think it reflects who Charlie was, and 553 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: I think the entire memorial today reflected. It was a 554 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: celebration of his life, and it was a proclamation of 555 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: the Gospel and that I'm really grateful to have been 556 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: friends with Charlie. I'm really grateful to have a chance 557 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: to be there for the celebration because I think it 558 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 3: is going to have really profound impacts on our country. 559 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: I think we're going to end up finding out down 560 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: the road that today was one of the biggest days, 561 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: not in politics, with the biggest people in politics in 562 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: a room, but one of the biggest days for young 563 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: men and women accepting Christ. And I'm learning about the 564 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: Lord from this horrific moment in our history. And I 565 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: think you look at that bring all these people together 566 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: the way that he was doing it. I think it's 567 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: going to change the way we have dialogue and conversation. 568 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: I think my demeanor's probably gonna be different. I'm still 569 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: going to fight the good fight, and I'm still going 570 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: to fight hard, but I want to have better conversations 571 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: while doing it. I think everybody's temperature is going to 572 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: change a little bit and how we interact the way 573 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: that Charlie did it. And I left there today, and 574 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to ask you this as 575 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: we wrap. I left there today more hopeful for the 576 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: future of this country, yes, than I have been in decades, 577 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: and more hopeful for the younger generation in this country 578 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: that they're going to see the light because I have 579 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: been very worried for quite some time. It's part of 580 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: the reason why I do this is that we have 581 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: lost an entire generation to the radical left. I think 582 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: we are seeing a very quick pendulum shift that only 583 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: God could create and put people in a place to 584 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: do it. 585 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, I'm reminded of the Scripture Second Chronicles 586 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: seven fourteen. If my people who are called by my 587 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face 588 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: and turn from their wicked ways. Then I will hear 589 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: from heaven, and I will forgive their sins, and I 590 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 3: will heal their land. That has been my prayer for 591 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 3: a long time, and I think today was in a 592 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 3: very real sense a great many people in America calling 593 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: out for God to hear our prayer and to heal 594 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 3: our land. And I pray that that is the outcome 595 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: the path we are on, that we see revival. Our 596 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 3: country needs it. 597 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: Don't forget share this podcast please with your family and 598 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: your friends wherever they are, and I will see you 599 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: back here tomorrow.