1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. Today we heard 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: from head coach John Harbaugh and general manager Eric DaCosta 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: and the season review press conference. So Garrett and I 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: are going to review the biggest takeaways from that press conference, 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and I'll start here. Garrett, first question, right off the top, 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: didn't waste any time reporters asking about the rushing attempts 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs and the AFC Championship loss. 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: What was your takeaway from what John zim? 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we expected that to be a topic today, 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: and the press conference today basically started let's look back 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: before we look forward. And honestly, John Harbaugh's answer was 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: very reminiscent of what we have said in the podcast. 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: And the other big takeaway I'll that I'll mention here 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: is you know, the other elephant in the room here 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: is that you may hear some noises here on the podcast. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: We have a first time podcast guest. 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: You're talking about bun Bun, right, Yeah, we're talking. 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: About little Bumbun and my daughter Betty here. 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: So Betty's joining the podcast, so we'll see how quiet 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: she lasts, she says. 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: And she brought her stuffed Bunny along. 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: But little bum Bunt, So we got Bumbun on the mic. 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: Bun Bun is gonna have. 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: A lot of hot takes here, but no, in all honesty, 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: So what John Harball said was pretty reminiscent of what 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: you and I said on the podcast this week, you know, basically, 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: you know, I think that they wanted to run the 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: ball more, but the game situation did kind of play 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: out in a way, kind of didn't force their hand. 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: I think there were some opportunities to run the ball more, 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: and I think that they probably wish they would have 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: taken some of those opportunities. But when you just look 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: at the number at the end, it seems totally out 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: of whack. But there are reasons why it got to 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: that point, so it's not an excuse, but it's also 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: recognizing basically, this is game situation. But yes, there were 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: some specific situations where they could have and probably should 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: have run the ball more. 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Right. I think that John Harball, like everybody else out there, 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: when you look at the final numbers, you say, man, 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: that's not how you win a AFC championship, right that 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: that's not the formula for success for us, for the Ravens, 43 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: but that's not when you're in the game. And I 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: went through this point by point, drive by drive and 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: mailbag for those who are wondering, and I encourage you 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: to go back and listen or read that. Yes, there's 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: definitely a handful of places where you say, okay, that 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: could have been a run, and some of them were 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: RPOs where Lamar could have handed the ball off or 50 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: it's check with me, is as John Harball described, which 51 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: is okay, are we gonna is this a passer a run? 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Lamar's kind of making the call and at at the 53 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, as we've talked about, he's empowered to 54 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: make those decisions, and he felt it was better to throw. 55 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: So the numbers could have certainly been higher in that regard, 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: but they weren't. So when you go back, you definitely 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: regret that the game went in that direction for sure. 58 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: And I think the flip side is when I went 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: back and looked at it, the Chiefs basically said to 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens, we dare you to take these big shots. 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna play single high safety and you're gonna have 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: to hit long plays on the outside. And the Ravens 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: didn't hit him the Chiefs hit their big plays. The 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Ravens didn't hit their So that's what it boils down 65 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: to the door was wide open for some big plays. 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: It could have been, like, you know, there were three 67 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: or more touchdowns just waiting, even outside of the fumble 68 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: on the goal wide where the Ravens really could have 69 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: pulled away in this game, and they didn't hit them. 70 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there were a number of shots. One 71 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: to Agalar, one to Odell Beckham Junior, the one that. 72 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: Was a strip sack stripsack. 73 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: We all have seen the clip of Lamar saying to Bateman, 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: felt like that was going to be a touchdown if 75 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: he had basically half a second more to get rid 76 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: of that football. I mean he was clocking back to 77 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: throw at the exact time that the pass rusher got 78 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: to enforce the fumble. So like there were opportunities there. 79 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: But you know, that's part of the challenge in an 80 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: NFL game. I think when you look back at it 81 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: just from a end of game situation, to say, let's 82 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: look back at this and look at what the box 83 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: score says, it's hard to totally get a feel for 84 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: game flow in that situation. I also think that I 85 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: do think the point you made in one that John 86 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: Harbaugh made was a good one, which is the RPOs 87 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: you know, run pass option, that's an option. So like 88 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: that's not a call pass play, it's not a called 89 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: run play, it's an option. And so when they go 90 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: in the direction of pass based on the look they're 91 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: getting at the line of scrimmage, that contributes to the 92 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: numbers being stewed in one direction. But that doesn't mean 93 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: that the Ravens were avoiding the run. They called monk 94 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: and called the possibility of a run in that situation, 95 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: Lamar just basically based on what he was seeing and 96 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: how that, you know, the defense and the look that 97 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: he was getting, decided to go with a pass route. 98 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: Just so there's no confusion about this. John Harball Plane 99 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: said that running the ball was a heavy part of 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: the game plan. So it wasn't that the Ravens came 101 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: in and saying, you know what, we think, we're just 102 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: gonna air it out against the Chiefs, go our wide receivers. 103 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna clamp down against the run and play heavy boxes, 104 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: which they did, and we're just gonna throw a bunch. 105 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: That was not the game plan. Kind of the way, 106 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: and you know, he was asked whether the early touchdowns 107 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: changed the Ravens outlook on that, and he basically said, well, yeah, 108 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean that plays into it, into the game script 109 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: and how it all breaks down. But it's not like 110 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: that blew up the game plan, right. The game plan 111 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: was to run the ball more. They intended to do that. 112 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: How it flowed did impact what they were calling, and 113 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: there could have been more run plays because of the 114 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: RPOs and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and then 115 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: in the second half, you were to a degree playing 116 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: once you're down ten in the fourth quarter. You know, 117 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: the fumble happened in the end zone on the first 118 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: play of the fourth quarter. 119 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 2: Fourth quarter, you're basically you're passing year every base almost 120 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: because you had to score twice at least that you 121 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: didn't know if they were going to score it all. 122 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: And so that was that was the clear strategy in 123 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and in the in the first half, 124 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: the Chiefs took up an entire quarter on the first 125 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: two touchdown drives. They took out basically an entire quarter 126 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: of play on those two drives, and so that did 127 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: limit some of the possibilities there. 128 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally all right, let's move on from that. 129 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: Yes, let's move on. 130 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: So Eric kas was also asked about the possibility of 131 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: putting the franchise tag on Justin Madabike pretty much squashed that, 132 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: not squatched the notion that he could do that, but 133 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: the squashed the notion that we were going to get 134 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: any insight on that. 135 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: He basically said, yeah, you guys are just going to 136 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: be guessing the rest of this offseason on every move 137 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: that we're going to make because I'm not giving you anything. 138 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: So there was basically no follow question on Patrick Queen 139 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: and the possibility that he might return to the Ravens. Yeah, 140 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: so we got no insight on there. Thinking you know, 141 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: Eric Cossa said, of course, when you have as many 142 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: free agencies as they have, you start and conversations have 143 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: already begune about bringing some of those guys back. But 144 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: at the same time, you're not going to bring them 145 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: all back. The Ravens have twenty three in counting, and 146 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: you're not going to bring all of them back. You're 147 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: going to have to rely on some young players next 148 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: year to fill step up and fill the spots that 149 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: veterans filled this year. And of course you'll still sign 150 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: more veterans from free agency, just like the Ravens did 151 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: this year to supplement what you have. But you know, 152 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens, for example, you just look at him. Could 153 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens have signed back Marcus Peters, They could have. 154 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Could they have gone out and spent money on a 155 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: free agent, Hey, they reportedly pursued the one that from Philadelphia, 156 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Darius Slay, but they didn't. And then hey, Brandon Stevens 157 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: stepped up was a great player for them this year. 158 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: So sometimes you have to make those those gambles in 159 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: air quotes and bet on a young player to emerge. 160 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: And there's gonna be some of that this year. They're 161 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: going to bring back some a collection of the veterans 162 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: that are free agents, that are pending free agents right now, 163 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: and they're going to bring in you guys. 164 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 165 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that that Eric Tacosta basically 166 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 2: pointed to the Lamar Jackson contract negotiations and just said, 167 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: I kind of learned to going through that process. It's 168 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: better to say nothing. And so that's that has shaped 169 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: his approach from a public standpoint and how much he's 170 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: going to say to a certain extent. So I thought 171 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: that was an interesting point from him. The one he did, 172 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: I feel like kind of provides some indication on was 173 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: Kevin Zeitler, who's a pending free agent, and Kevin Zeitler 174 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: and Locker clean out basically was like, yeah, I'd. 175 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Sign right now, right, give me a contract right now, 176 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: you put. 177 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: It down here. 178 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: Let's just take care of this, you know, in the 179 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: cafeteria before I head out. Yeah, Like that was kind 180 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: of the vibe that Zeitler gave off and DaCosta said 181 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: that they actually did talk recently, and so they've had 182 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: conversations and you know, the offensive line is like a 183 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: big priority. I know that's going to be a part 184 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: of the conversation that we get into here, but the 185 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: offensive line is deaf only a big priority. 186 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: And it sounded like the conversations. 187 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: With Zeitler have are already underway, and you know, it 188 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: would not surprise me if he's back. 189 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Yep. Definitely. A lot of the news since the season ended, 190 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: obviously is around the Ravens coaching staff, and you know, 191 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: we had Mike McDonald obviously left for Seattle become their 192 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: head coach, and the Ravens have hired Zach Orr to 193 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: replace him. Very exciting hire there, and you know, obviously 194 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of consternation whenever you have changeover, turnover 195 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff. Mike did an awesome job the 196 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: past two years and really this past year, the Ravens defense, 197 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: as we all know was was elite, and so there's 198 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: questions of whether they can continue that. And John Harball 199 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: expressed his confidence in not only zach Orr, but the 200 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: whole defensive coaching staff that they can build it back up, 201 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: that they can rebuild a great Ravens defense. Let's be honest, 202 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: this is still the Ravens system. That's not going to change. 203 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: That's part of the benefit of hiring zach Orr is 204 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: that he knows their philosophies and this system inside and out. 205 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: It's not going to change all that much. He's gonna 206 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: put his fingerprints on it. And they have a lot 207 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: of talented defensive coaches still remaining on this staff, right. 208 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you lost Tonnar Wilson to Tennessee. That's another 209 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: loss for them. Anthony Weaver could still leave. He's still 210 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: in consideration for the defensive coordinator job in Miami, or 211 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: he might not. Hopefully he's back for selfish reasons. John 212 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Harball certainly steadfast in his belief that hey, y'all weren't 213 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: saying how talented and just how low did we are 214 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: on the defensive coaching staff at the beginning of last season. 215 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I have confidence in who we have on this staff 216 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: and that we can rebuild it. 217 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: The Ravens haven't done a great job with building a 218 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: defensive coaching staff. Like John Harbaugh knows how to build 219 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: a great defensive coaching staff. When he made a transition 220 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: from Wink Martindale to Mike McDonald, that was not this 221 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: move that was applauded by every single person. I mean, honestly, 222 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: early in Mike's tenure, Rex Ryan ripped Mike McDonald and 223 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: the Ravens, you know, for essentially moving on from Wink 224 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 2: and giving the keys to Mike. 225 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: And now, now, Wink was a good friend of his head. 226 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: I know, I know there was obviously some other factors 227 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: at play, there bias going on there, But I do 228 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: think that, like you know, I just think that Hardball 229 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: is going to be able to build a great defensive 230 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: coaching staff. 231 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: He's done it time and time again. 232 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: The Ravens have had a great defense essentially the entire 233 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: time that he's been here, and I think that Mike 234 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: was great. Mike is awesome, and I loved having him here. 235 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna do really well in Seattle. But 236 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: I also think Zach Orr is awesome and is a 237 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 2: guy that I really have a lot of faith and 238 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: belief in. You know, the biggest question challenge for him 239 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: is going to be calling plays for the first time. 240 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Which John Harbaugh acknowledge he knowed. 241 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a consideration and he's going to have 242 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: to basically learn on the job there and we're going 243 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: to work on that and that's gonna be some of 244 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: the conversations that we're going to have over the course 245 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: of the next few months and obviously throughout next season. 246 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: So that's the biggest learning curve for him. But I 247 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: think Zach Orr is a really good, exciting hire for 248 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: this team. 249 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's Zach's gonna get a lot of practice. 250 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: The way the way the Ravens run their practice, You're 251 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: you're calling in plays like it's a game. Now, it's 252 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: not a game, right, it's not. You're not going to 253 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: really know till he'll get that experience in the preseason. 254 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: But until the bullets are live live for the regular season. 255 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: You just don't know. But zach Orr is gonna be 256 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: He's a hard worker. He's going to work really hard 257 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: at doing that. That is something that I think that's 258 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: one of the biggest questions about zach Orr is he 259 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: just doesn't have that. Mike had the one year calling 260 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: plays at Michigan that was beneficial to him and doing 261 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: it at the NFL. Zach doesn't have that. But he's 262 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: called plays on the field as a player, He's called 263 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: out a lot of plays. And another just a couple 264 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: other points about John Harbaugh and his coaching staff, specifically 265 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: about zach Orr. He said he really likes having a 266 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that came from coaching linebackers. That's been the tradition. 267 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald coach the Ravens linebackers before he went to Michigan. 268 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: Before that, Wink Martindale coached the Ravens linebackers. Demp's coached 269 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens linebackers, so he's John Harwall said there's really 270 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: a benefit to kind of knowing the whole defense and 271 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: the whole system and how it's structured. When you are 272 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: coming from that perspective, with that experience, so that was interesting, 273 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: and I thought he said about Zach Orr. Eric Cassa 274 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: said pretty point blank like I think this guy could 275 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: be a Eric or John said he'll be a head 276 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: coach in the future sometime. And then John specifically said 277 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: about Anthony Weaver that basically teams missed their opportunity, that 278 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: he thinks he's going to be a great head coach 279 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: someday and teams missed out on this highering cycle. 280 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think it could be a situation where 281 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: you look back, and this is what John basically make 282 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: the point of, you look back, you say, how did 283 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver not get hired at that time? I think 284 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: he you know, I think when surprised me a to 285 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: all next year if he gets hired, felt a little 286 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: bit bad for him. This is a guy who I 287 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: think is ready to be a head coach and his 288 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: really smart, talented guy who would be a just an 289 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: excellent head coach. I mean, he just he has a CEO, 290 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, mindset and ability about him. I just think 291 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: that he is he would do a great job of 292 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: coaching the entire team. And I think he's super smart guy, 293 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: super smart guy. We're very well respected former player so 294 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: whenever he does get his shot, I think that he 295 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: will capitalize and make the most on it. 296 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: So let's take a quick break and. 297 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: Then when we come back, we'll give you some other 298 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: thoughts and takeaways from the presser. 299 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: We're coming to you from the Sea Geeks Studio. 300 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: We want to give a shout out to Draft Kings Sportsbook, 301 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: which is an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens. 302 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: They've got an offer running right now you don't want 303 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: to miss. 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So, 309 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: you know, one of the other things that was, you know, 310 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: a takeaway from me and something that Eric to Costa 311 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: really stressed as you try to read the Tea leaves here. 312 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: I do think the offensive line is a massive priority 313 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: for this team going into the offseason. 314 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of question marks there, you know, I 315 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: mean Ronnie Stanley, by his own emission, did not have 316 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: his best season. He's dealt with injuries for several years 317 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: in a row now, and he's getting older, so you know, 318 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: you definitely need to at least start thinking about what 319 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: the future looks like at left tackle. Morgan Moses is 320 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: debating whether he's gonna have surgery this offseason, another veteran. 321 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: You have a free agent. Both your guards are free agents, 322 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: John Simpson and Kevin Zeitler. So whereas last offseason the 323 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Ravens new four of their five starters who were returning, 324 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: and you felt really good health wise everything. You were 325 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: very stable in the offensive line, you had one big 326 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: question market left guard. Now you have a lot of questions. 327 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: And Eric Cossas certainly stressed that offensive line is is 328 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: always going to be very important in Baltimore. Even he 329 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: even made an equip even if my kid doesn't really 330 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: think so, offensive line is not the sexiest, but really 331 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: important in Baltimore's I mean, they run the ball more 332 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: than really any team in the league. So when you 333 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: run the ball that much, when you have a franchise 334 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: quarterback like Lamar Jackson, when you want to give him 335 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: time and create avenues for him to run. Then you 336 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: certainly need a strong offensive line. That's where it starts 337 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: for this team. 338 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, the Ronnie piece is certainly 339 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: a big question. You know, do you draft a left 340 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: tackle or a potential you know, replacement there. You know 341 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: you're drafting, you're picking at thirty, so getting a plug 342 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: and play left tackle is a little challenging at that point. 343 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: But it's possible. 344 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: You know, Ronnie is under contract, so I don't think 345 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: it's a fourgon conclusion that Ronnie's not on the team next year. 346 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: He certainly could be, you know, I think that just 347 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: to make that clear. I mean, I think that you know, 348 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: Ronnie again, he's under contract for next season. 349 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: They said he needs a big off season. Yeah, big 350 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: off season for Ronnie. He needs to get healthy, he 351 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: needs to get stronger, he needs to get better, he 352 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: needs to get back to the Ronnie Stanley that we 353 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: knew previously. 354 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just wouldn't surprise me at all if the 355 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: Ravens end up adding some veterans, just like they did 356 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago with Kevin Zitler. 357 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: Morgan Moses, like, I. 358 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: Could see a similar situation where they end up adding 359 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: some veterans or a veteran to this offensive line. 360 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 361 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: I honestly don't know what position that would be. Because 362 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Morgan Moses is also under contract for next year. So 363 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: and so if you bring back Zeitler, are you talking 364 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: about adding a left guard? 365 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: Maybe? But I think that there could be a veteran 366 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: that's added to this group. 367 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: I just I just wan and listening to Dakasta, it 368 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: just sounded to me like from a very big picture standpoint, 369 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: offensive line is critical. Everybody can say that, but the 370 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Ravens really believe in the importance of the offensive line, 371 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: and I think they're going to invest in that area 372 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: this offseason. 373 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: Looking more broadly offensively, I think that the Ravens are 374 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: really John Harball is really excited about the future offensively. Now, 375 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: we all had a have a bitter taste in our 376 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: mouth with the way the AFC Championship game went, and 377 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: we already talked about that, with the running game and whatnot. 378 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: But when you step back and look at this offense, 379 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: it did really well under year one under Todd Munkin, 380 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,359 Speaker 1: you know, having a whole new offense, a whole new system. 381 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Lamar's first year and doing that, him really getting the 382 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: keys and being empowered in this offense. It was one 383 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: of the best offenses in the league, you know, and 384 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: they and they were scoring thirty plus points against really 385 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: good teams, really good defenses. Late in the year. It 386 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: was clicking. So John Harball, you know, to kind of 387 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: look at the positives here. Coming off a bitter loss, 388 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: he feels like in year two with Lamar and the 389 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: empowerment that he's getting it, every day won't be a 390 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: new day, as he put it, that there can be 391 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: big strides made offensively just because of the familiarity that 392 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Lamar and the rest of the offense has with Todd 393 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: Munkins system. 394 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 395 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: Then even looking position wise again at wide receiver, they've 396 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: got a confidence in this receiver group. Questions though, Odell 397 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: Beckham Junior, you know, is essentially a free Nelson Aguilar 398 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: is a free agent. Now do they bring them do 399 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: they bring them back? We'll have to wait and see. 400 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: Rashad Bateman. They have to make a decision on the 401 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: fifth year option for him, and you know, regardless he is, 402 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: even if they decide not to do the fifth year 403 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: option for him, he's still in a contract for next year. 404 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: But John Harball and Eric DeCosta both said and looking 405 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: into next year, like Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman, they 406 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: viewed them as a starting wide receiver and so they 407 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: expect them to be the kind of the key drivers 408 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: of this passing game. Zay certainly had a remarkable rookie season, 409 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: Lots to be excited about there. Bateman was healthy this year, 410 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: which was big for him, and they expect him to 411 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: take a big step it sounds like next year. 412 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Yes, certainly. That was one of the bigger takeaways for 413 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: me was they feel like Rashat Bateman has a great 414 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: future and John Harwall talked about how he's become a 415 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: really great route runner. Now, you know, there just weren't 416 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of connections between he and Lamar Jackson this year, 417 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: but that's something that certainly can develop. And you see 418 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: the talent with rasha Bateman, it's there, he's getting open. 419 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: It's just that that connection wasn't made. So he'll get 420 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: the reps next year. John Harball was pretty clear about 421 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: that he's going to get a lot of opportunities next 422 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: year and in a year critical year four for him, 423 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: you hope that he can stay healthy and he has 424 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: a talent to maximize his opportunities for sure. 425 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: So then the other position group I want to hit 426 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: running backs, obviously a ton of questions there. You know, 427 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: the only guy under contract next year was Justice Hill 428 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: and Keaton Mitchell. So Keithon Mitchell come back from a 429 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: tourney ACL so obviously big questions on is to win 430 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: he'll be back in full strength. Justice Hill is under 431 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: contract and he showed a lot this year. But Gus 432 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: Edwards free agent, JK Dobbins free agent. I think that 433 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: the Ravens will invest at running back, whether that's through 434 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: free agency or the draft. I don't know which one, 435 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: but I do expect them to make some significant, potentially 436 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: investment at the running back position this offseason. 437 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: Yep. And then lastly, just an injury update, Marcus Williams 438 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: is not going to have surgery on his pectoral injury 439 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: that he played through for much of the season. Morgan Moses, 440 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: as he said, is still deciding whether he is going 441 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: to have surgery on his I think it's his shoulder. 442 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: And then lastly, Da Fayoway had thumb surgery, so he'll 443 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: be fine four to six weeks on that. But that's 444 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: just another kind of clean up procedure, not a lot 445 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: of off season surgeries. John Harbell says that's good for 446 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: the off season and kind of building back up for 447 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens big picture. Just to end things here clearly, 448 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: you know. John Harball said he was heartbroken after the 449 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: Ravens lost to the Chiefs, as we all were. There 450 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: were big expectations they had the team, they knew they 451 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: had the team that could win it all. But overall 452 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: projected a lot of positivity looking forward. You know, you 453 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: can't you just can't dwell in it right, Like that 454 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: doesn't serve anybody. Eric Cossa went to the Senior Bowl 455 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: the very next day. You have to turn the page quickly, 456 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: coaching changes and all that stuff like this. John Harball 457 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: and Eric to Costas certainly emanated, Yeah, it's disappointing. We 458 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: were really upset. We were heartbroken, gut wrenching, all the 459 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: all the adjectives that you want to use about that loss. 460 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: But like, you just can't be stay in that place. 461 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: And I think they do a really good job of 462 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: moving on quickly and taking a positive, positive attitude on 463 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna rebuild. Erics Costa said he's not a guy 464 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: that believes in the window closing. The window stays open, 465 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: and it hits his job to rebuild this and keep 466 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: the window open. And that's the way he sees it 467 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: this offseason. 468 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: That was my big takeaway from a big picture standpoint, 469 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: there's been I think the feeling in Baltimore right now 470 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: is this was the special team, This was the window. 471 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: And you know, we said that a lot coming into 472 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: this postseason run, that we felt like this was the 473 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: team that had the potential to do it. Yep. But 474 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: Eric's Costa's mindset and the Ravens mindset is it wasn't 475 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: the only team that has the potential too. You know, 476 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: we can We're gonna draft well, We're gonna develop players, 477 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a great coaching staff. The window is 478 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: still very much open. Still have Lamar Jackson at quarterback, 479 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: still have all pros and Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton. 480 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: The future is bright for this team. The Ravens feel 481 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 2: that way from a personnel standpoint, from a coaching standpoint, 482 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: from just an overall big picture standpoint, and so they're 483 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: optimistic looking ahead. 484 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: And I think Ravens fans should be as well. So 485 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: we appreciate you listening. 486 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: As always, you can email us at the lounge at 487 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: Ravens dot NFL dot net. We'll keep you posted on 488 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: all the moves and actions going on right now from 489 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: a coaching and all this stuff happening. I know it's 490 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: the off season, but we're not going anywhere, so send 491 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: us your emails and we'll be back with you again soon. 492 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, talk to you soon.