1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warre. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Ready to will be amazed by the wizard of weird. 11 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: This is Strange with JOSHUAE Warren. I am Joshua P. Warren. 12 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: At each week on this show, I'll be bringing you 13 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: brand new my blowment content, news exercises, and weird experiments 14 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: you can do at home, and a lot more on 15 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: this edition of the show. Weirdo, Monsters, Fresno Nightcrawler, Veggie Man, 16 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: et cetera. You know it's going to be a good 17 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: show when I have et cetera in the title. Years ago, 18 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: I had the privilege of visiting Point Pleasant, West Virginia, 19 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: which of course is most famous for being the the 20 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: number one hotspot for the Mothman activity that took place 21 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. Of course, Mothman is one of 22 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: the most mistake serious paranormal entities. Nobody is sure whether 23 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: or not to call him a cryptid or an alien 24 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: or an interdimensional being. We just don't know. I'm not 25 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: going to dig into Mothman in particular, though, because I've 26 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: talked about him a lot on this show. I think 27 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I talked about him in episode fourteen. I'm certain I 28 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: did in episode one sixty four. But one thing that 29 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: I have not gotten to do is go to the 30 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: annual Mothman Festival that they hold there. I was just 31 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: passing through and got to spend a little time investigating there. 32 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: And again, this was a long time ago, but they 33 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: have this big festival every September, and it just looks 34 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: like the most fun place in the world to me, 35 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: and I just, you know, it seems like that every year. 36 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: I just get so busy in the fall. I just 37 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: haven't made a point of going to this festival. I 38 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: have to do it. But if you don't know anything 39 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: about it, look it up. And of course I'm recording 40 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: this show in October, and so they just recently had one, 41 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: and I've been watching video footage that attendees of the 42 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Mothman Festival were shooting as they were walking around, and 43 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: I kept noticing a lot of these souvenirs that were 44 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: being sold and promoted that had some cryptids and monsters 45 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: that I actually am not that familiar with. You know, 46 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: I may have heard the name, but I don't really 47 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: know the story. And so I started taking notes, like, 48 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: I wonder what exactly that thing is, And so I 49 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: decided that I would I would educate myself on not 50 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: only like the Fresno Nightcrawler and Veggieman, but the Grafton Monster. 51 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: The Pascagoula Alien was promoted there. We'll see how many 52 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: of these things we can tap into. Obviously the Flatwoods 53 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Monster I know more about that one, but anyhow, so 54 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: I decided to sit down and learn more about these monsters. 55 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: And I figured that you also would find this interesting 56 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: if I share with you what I've learned. So there's 57 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. Let's get right into it. 58 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Let's start with this thing called the Fresno night Crawler. Now, Fresno, California, 59 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: is a city that is from what I can tell 60 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: it looks like it's more or less right in the 61 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: middle of California. And let me try to describe for 62 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: you what a Fresno nightcrawler looks like. Imagine one night, 63 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: you hear some I don't know, your dogs are barking 64 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. You look outside and in your yard you 65 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: see what appears to be nothing but a pair of 66 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: white pants, maybe I don't know, four feet tall, just 67 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: white pants, walking across your yard. And then maybe another 68 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 1: one follows it. Now, what the heck is that? That's 69 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: more or less what these nightcrawlers look like. And it 70 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: all started with an incident very much like that. The 71 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: first time, apparently this we know about one of these 72 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: sightings was this is one of those fairly recent things. 73 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: It was two thousand and seven. A man in Fresno 74 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: who only identified himself as Jose, said, a little after 75 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: midnight on November fifth, my sister's birthday, by the way, 76 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: the man was awakened by his barking dog and decided 77 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: to check his surveillance camera footage to see why. And 78 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: there on the screen he saw two unusual creatures strutting 79 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: across the front lawn. That's right, folks, this is on video. 80 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: You can get on the internet and you can watch 81 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: video of this. So he saw these things, and apparently 82 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: at some point he took this to a television station. 83 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Let's see here. I believe it says Univision. And then 84 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: later on somebody who was speaking at a UFO conference 85 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: about a year later got a hold of this footage 86 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and played it and everybody started wondering what the heck 87 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: could this possibly be. And then other appearances of these 88 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: things called nightcrawlers, and I don't know who gave it 89 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: that name. I would imagine it was probably some reporter 90 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: or anchor who is trying to be sensational. That's how 91 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: Mothman got his name. That's often what happens. Then the 92 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: Fresno alien started popping up in other places. He was 93 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: spotted a few years later. The Fresno nightcrawler was spotted 94 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: in Yosemite National Park in twenty eleven. And then there 95 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: was a footage of like a couple of these things 96 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: in Poland in twenty seventeen, and then Montana and twenty twenty. 97 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: And sometimes you just see one night crawler walking by itself, 98 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: but often you'll see two or three, and some maybe 99 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: taller than others. You know, they're different sizes. Now, obviously 100 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: there are people who look at this and say, this 101 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: has got to be a hoax. Well let me just 102 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: tell you all right now, listening to this show, if 103 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: I mention that this could be a hoax, well that 104 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: could get very redundant on this particular show, because just 105 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: about every single one of these creatures that I'm going 106 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: to tell you about has been accused of being part 107 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: of a hoax. So you just I'm not even going 108 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: to spend time on that, okay, So I'm just telling 109 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: what they supposedly are. Whether you believe it or not, 110 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: that's up to you. But there is very good, clear 111 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: footage of these Fresno nightcrawlers out there, and I honestly 112 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: I have no idea what they are. I mean, if 113 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: you try to pigeonhole me into some kind of like 114 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: I guess, if you back me into a corner, is 115 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, then maybe I would just have to 116 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: say just one of these interdimensional weirdies or some kind 117 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: of alien. I don't know, I mean, if it's real. 118 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: But here's something that I find very intriguing. You know, 119 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: I live here in Las Vegas and Las Vegas is 120 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: part of what is known as the Nevada Triangle, which 121 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: is actually more paranormal in many ways than even the 122 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Bermuda Triangle where I used to live. And the Nevada 123 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Triangle goes from Las Vegas north up to Reno, Nevada, 124 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: and then it goes west over to yes, Fresno, California. 125 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: So there's apparently a lot of bizarre stuff that happens 126 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: in Fresno, California. I have never been there, so it's 127 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: definitely on my list of places to go. I'm going 128 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: to make a up to Fresno at some point. And 129 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: I understand that in Fresno the night Crawler is kind 130 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: of considered a bit of a cultural hero. You know. 131 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: They they celebrate the night Crawler there. They're they're happy 132 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: to have him as a bizarro mascot of some kind 133 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: for the town. So that's what that is, all right. 134 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: Next on to the Veggie Man. Okay, now, the Veggie Man. 135 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: This is one of the West Virginia weardies, and it 136 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: would it would make sense that a lot of these 137 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: creatures have West Virginia connections. And Okay, apparently this began 138 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: with a there was a writer who was collecting stories 139 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: of unusual things, and he talked about this man named 140 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: Jennings Frederick, who was already a guy who was sort 141 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: of studying I think weird phenomena himself. But anyhow, here's 142 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: supposedly what happened. On a mid July day in nineteen 143 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: sixty eight. Jennings Frederick was walking through the woods during 144 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: an unsuccessful hunt for woodchuck when he heard a jabbering 145 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: voice that he said sounded like a sped up recording, 146 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: and apparently this is what it said, quote, you need 147 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: not fear me. I wish to communicate. I come as friends. 148 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: We know of you all. I come in peace. I 149 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: wish medical assistance. I need your help. I'm not going 150 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: to try to do that. You need not fear me, 151 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: I wish to communicate. Okay. So surprised, Frederick felt his 152 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: arm ketch on a patch of brambles, so when he 153 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: looked down, he realized that what he thought were brabbles 154 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: were actually a three fingered hand that was green like 155 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: a plant. He said the fingers were seven inches long, 156 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: with needle like tips and suction cups which had attached 157 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: themselves to his arm. He heard a suction sound and 158 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: he knew blood was being drawn. He said the creature 159 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: reminded him of the stalk of some huge, ungainly plant, 160 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: but the creature was surprisingly strong. Its eyes turned from 161 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: yellow to red as they began to spin, hypnotizing him. 162 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: He said that it eventually leaped away, reminding him of 163 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: spring Hill Jack. Okay, when we come back, I'm going 164 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: to tell you a little bit more about this veggie man, 165 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get into yeah, the Grafton Monster, 166 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: the flat Woods Monster, the maybe the ho Dag, the 167 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: Pumpkin Man. You know what, This is a free show. 168 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: And if you like this show, I hope you'll do 169 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: everything you can do to support it and to keep 170 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: me doing it. 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Warren, beaming into your wormhole 189 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 190 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 191 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:55,479 Speaker 1: I gietato zoom. And here's something funny that I realized. 192 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: When you look at Veggie Man showing up, the first 193 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: thing he says is you need not fear me. Have 194 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: you ever noticed how often when people have these encounters 195 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: with these weird beings, it starts with the being saying 196 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: do not be afraid. It reminds me, you know, speaking 197 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: of Mothman in the movie The Mothman prophecies. There's this 198 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: character I think his name is Gordon, and he starts 199 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: hearing voices of this like creepy, shadowy figure named Indrid Cold. 200 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: And he says, then the voice that I heard two 201 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: nights ago, he said, do not be afraid. My name 202 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: is Indrid Cold. And when I was in Puerto Rico 203 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: interviewing people, a lot of times people would say they 204 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: would wake up in the middle of the night and 205 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: they would see a ball of light in their bedroom, 206 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: and just like Veggie Man, they would hear some kind 207 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: of a high pitched sound coming from and one person 208 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: would hear that sound, and then another person would hear 209 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: instead a voice, and the voice would say, do not 210 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: be afraid. Why is this the most common opening line? 211 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: You know? In fact, if you go back and you 212 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: look at the Bible, there are many occasions in the 213 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: Bible on which an angel will appear, and that's the 214 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: first thing the angel says. Let's see. It appears in 215 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: multiple cases. In Luke chapter one, verse twenty six, the 216 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: angel Gabriel says to Mary, do not be afraid, Mary, 217 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: for you have found favor with the God. And then 218 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: let's see. Luke two ten angel says, do not be afraid. 219 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: I bring you good news that will cause great joy 220 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: for all the people. And then in Matthew chapter one, 221 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: verse twenty, an angel says to Joseph, do not be 222 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: afraid to take Mary as your wife. I don't know, 223 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: you know. All I know is I'm thinking I don't 224 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: want to meet an angel if he has to be like, 225 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: do not be afraid of me. I think I'll pass 226 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: on meeting the angel. But who knows. It seems like 227 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: in the Bible that is maybe a sign. Angels often 228 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: say do not fear as a sign there from God, 229 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: but obviously there are other creatures that say that as well. 230 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: It's just one of those oddball things. I could probably 231 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: talk about that for an hour, but let's move on. 232 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: Let's get back to Veggieman here, because this guy says 233 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: that when Veggie Man grabbed a hold of him, Veggie 234 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: Man's eyes turned yellow to red, began to spin, and 235 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: he believed that there was some kind of a transfusion 236 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: taking place. Veggie Man was sucking something out of him, 237 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: and then when Veggie Man was satisfied, he leapt, like 238 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: I say, off into the distance like spring Hill Jack. 239 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: And if you look at a sketch of what he 240 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: supposedly appeared like. He looks so ridiculous. Imagine a carrot 241 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: as as as a tall figure with you know how 242 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: carrots have that carrot top with the green leafy stuff. Well, 243 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: that's his hair sticking up. So imagine a big, tall 244 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: carrot with that. That's his hair. He's got black eyes, 245 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: he has a long nose, point to ears, incredible long 246 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: spinlely fingers excuse me, arms each with three fingers, and 247 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: he's kind of like big long duck like looking feet. 248 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: He looks insane. You have to get online and just 249 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: look at some of the pictures of these things. I 250 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: don't know that there have been too many sightings of 251 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: Veggie Man since then, but that anyway, that's what Veggie 252 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Man is. Okay, So now let's go on to the 253 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: Grafton Monster. The Grafton Monster is well, this is another 254 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: one of those West Virginia weirdies. And again it's not 255 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: surprising because the Mothman Festival is in West Virginia, and 256 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: apparently in nineteen sixty four there was a reporter there 257 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: in West Virginia named Robert Cockrell. June sixteenth, nineteen sixty four, 258 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: he was driving home from work on Riverside Drive, which 259 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: goes past Grafton High School, and then he saw a 260 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: quote large white obstruction end quote in a small clearing 261 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: beside the road. He described it as being a creature 262 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: as having white, seal like skin and no visible head. Now, yes, 263 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about skin like a seal, you know, an animal, 264 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: a seal, large seal like skin, and no visible head. 265 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: He recalled it being very large, between seven and nine 266 00:18:54,720 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: feet tall. Let's see. The creature did not move as 267 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: he drove past, but he was terrified. Cockroll was terrified. 268 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: After the encounter, he and his friends went right back 269 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: to where he saw the creature. It was gone, but 270 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: it did leave a large impression in the grass where 271 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: it had been standing. They also said that they had 272 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: heard an odd, low whistling sound coming from the direction 273 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: of the river, but they were not sure if that 274 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: was from the creature or not. If you look at 275 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: a picture of what this may have been, I mean, 276 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: it just kind of looks like a big, kind of 277 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: pale white blob. Almost reminds me of a boulder with 278 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: a couple of big, clunky arms. I don't know if 279 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: you've ever played one of these video games like Zelda, 280 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: where they have these boulders that wake up and kind 281 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: of grow arms and come to life. It reminds me 282 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: of that. Well, that's the Grafton Monster, now, you know. Now, 283 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: of course, I have known for years about the flat 284 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: Woods Monster. This is also, of course from West Virginia, 285 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: and this is a particularly it kind of visually outstanding monster. 286 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is an alien or 287 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: what you could say that about any of these. On 288 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: the evening of September twelfth of nineteen fifty two, they're 289 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: in flat Woods, West Virginia. So there was an elementary 290 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: school called flat Woods Elementary School, and so near the 291 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: elementary school there were these little boys, there's like I 292 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: think four of them, all residents, just playing on the 293 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: lawn of the elementary school. Suddenly a bright light just 294 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: streaked across the sky overhead and seemed like it crashed 295 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: into a hillside beside a farm nearby, and so the 296 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: boys were running to see what it was. And on 297 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: the way they stopped by the home of one of 298 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: the boy's mothers. A boy's mother, her name was Kathleen May. 299 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: And so Kathleen May and these kids and the family 300 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: dog Ritchie. They all go up to see what's on 301 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: this hill. And once they get up there, they start seeing. 302 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: As they get closer to the spot where the crash occurred, 303 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: a pulsing red light. And then they shined a flashlight 304 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: up the hill and they saw a terrifying sight. Let's see, 305 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: described as by one writer Gray Barker at Fate Magazine, 306 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: a creature approximately ten feet that is three meters tall, 307 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: and by creature, it looks like an alien. This does 308 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: not look like an animal. It's a creature though, with 309 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: a round blood red face, a large pointed hoodlike shape 310 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: around the face, eyes that emitted greenish orange light, a 311 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: dark black or green body, small claw like hands, clothing 312 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: like folds, and a head that all together resembled the 313 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: Ace of spades. All right, so can you imagine this? 314 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: This is a creature that it actually, you know, here's 315 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: what it reminds me of. I'm a chess player. It 316 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: reminds me of the bishop piece in a game of chess. 317 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it reminds me of. But this is 318 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: some kind of I don't like it, a robot, alien monster 319 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: looking thing. And so but here's the thing. They see this, 320 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: and then it says it made a hissing sound and 321 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: then started gliding toward them. And at that point, what 322 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: do you think they did? What would you do? They screamed, 323 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: dropped the flashlight, and they ran away, absolutely terrified. They 324 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: said they smelled a pungent mist. Some later said they 325 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: were nauseated. They went to the local sheriff and he 326 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: and a deputy had been investigating some other reports of 327 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: crashed aircraft in the area and they didn't find anything there, 328 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: but this story it got picked up by newspapers that 329 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: went all over the place, and one thing that really 330 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: impressed everybody was that Kathleen May, the mother of one 331 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: of the boys who had been there. She was a 332 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: beautician there in town. She was an active member of 333 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: this civic group called the Rebeccas, and everybody just seemed 334 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: to love her. She was just very well known, and 335 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: she passed away several years ago. But the people who 336 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: own like there's a museum, I guess, like a Flatwood's 337 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Monster museum. They say that people who used to know 338 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: her to this day, they'll come in and they'll talk 339 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: about what a nice lady she was, and how trustworthy 340 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: and down to earth she was, and that was one 341 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: of the things that seemed to give that story some credibility. 342 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: So look up the flat Woods Monster. We're about to 343 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: come up on a break here. When we come back, well, 344 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to squeeze in at least a 345 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: few more the Pasca Goula alien, the hodagg the pumpkin Man, 346 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: the hoop snake. Yeah, and then a little later in 347 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: the show, I want to talk some about this extraordinary 348 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: weather that we've been having. And I get contacted all 349 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: the time with people who have suspicions about something nefarious 350 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: happening behind the scenes, some kind of conspiracy at hand. Well, fine, 351 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Let's get into that a little 352 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: bit that's coming up later in the show. I'm Joshua 353 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: Pee Warren, and you're listening to Strange Things on the 354 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network, and 355 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I will be back after these important messages. Welcome back 356 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast to 357 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: Coast AM, a normal podcast network. I'm your host, Joshua 358 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Pee Warren, and this is the show where the unusual 359 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: becomes usual. Now I know I told you this show 360 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: is going to be about weirdo monsters. But I'm using 361 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: that term monster quite generally because I mean, aren't all 362 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: of these creepy things kind of monsters in a way? 363 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: What is a monster? And of course I am. I 364 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: was inspired to do this show because a lot of 365 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: these things, these creatures that are sort of featured and 366 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: promoted at monster festivals like the Mothman Festival. And I 367 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: say that because this next creature is actually called the 368 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: Pascagoula Alien. And yet it's just I don't know, is 369 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: this an alien? Probably we don't know. But here's the story. 370 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: The Passcagoula Alien is from what's called the Pascagoula Abduction. 371 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: And this happened. INT's see Mississippi of course, an alleged 372 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: UFO sighting an abduction in nineteen seventy three in which 373 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker claimed they were abducted and 374 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: examined before being released by aliens while they were fishing 375 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: near Pascagoula on the evening of October eleventh of nineteen 376 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: seventy three, forty two year old Charles Hickson and nineteen 377 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: year old Calvin Parker told the Jackson County, Mississippi Sheriff's Office. 378 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: They were fishing off a pier on the west bank 379 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: of the Pascagoula River when they heard a whirring or 380 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: whizzing sound. They saw two flashing blue lights and observed 381 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: an oval shaped object thirty to forty feet that's nine 382 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: to twelve meters across and eight to ten feet high, 383 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: which is two to three meters. They claimed they were 384 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: conscious but paralyzed while three creatures with quote robotic slit 385 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: mouths end quote let me repeat that robotic slit mouths 386 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: and quote crab like pinchers, let me repeat that crab 387 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: like painters in quote took them aboard the object and 388 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: subjected them to an examination. Uh. Then of course they 389 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: got that got out and uh, I don't know, I 390 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: don't know the details of the examination. But when you 391 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: look at what the Pasca, the Pasca Goula aliens supposedly 392 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: looked like, it is depicted as a tall, upright, kind 393 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: of homogeneous looking being with a slightly domed head, and 394 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: it has some kind of a big slit across the 395 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: front of its face, and then it has these long 396 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 1: arms that have the almost crab like pinchers, and I 397 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: guess because of the slit and all that, it kind 398 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: of reminds me a bit of Platau from the movie 399 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: The Earth The Day the Earth Stood Still? So I 400 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think. It's a weird looking thing. 401 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: And apparently they it looks like they always show it 402 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: having a couple of little like pointy ears sticking out 403 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: of the side of its head or something like that 404 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: as well. The Pasca goula monster, all right. Next we 405 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: have the hoedag, and I see an American folklore of 406 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: the hoe dag is a fearsome critter resembling a large 407 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: carniv carnivore with bullhorns with a row of thick, curved 408 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: spines down its back. The ho dag was said to 409 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: be borne from the ashes of cremated oxen as the 410 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: incarnation of the accumulation of abuse these animals had suffered 411 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: at the hands of their masters. I say the history 412 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: of this ho dag is strongly tied to Wisconsin. It 413 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: features prominently in Paul Bunyan stories. They say this is 414 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: the actual origin. In eighteen ninety three, newspapers reported the 415 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: discovery of a hoag in Wisconsin. The articles claimed the 416 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: hodag had the head of a frog, the grinning face 417 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: of a giant elephant, thick short legs set off by 418 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: huge claws, the back of a dinosaur, and a long 419 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: tail with spears at the end. The reports were instigated 420 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: by a well known Wisconsin land surveyor who was also 421 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: a well known prankster named Eugene Shephard, and who rounded 422 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: up a group of local people to capture the animal, 423 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: and they said that they needed to use dynamite to 424 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: kill the beast. A photograph of the remains of the 425 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: charred beast was released to the media and it said, quote, 426 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: it was the fiercest, strangest, most frightening monster ever to 427 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: set razors sharp claws on the earth. It became extinct 428 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: after its main food source, all white bulldogs, became scarce 429 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: in the area. End quote. And you know what's funny 430 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: about the hodag? And I'm not going to try to 431 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: describe it any more than it was described originally. The 432 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: ho dag has been featured all over North Carolina and 433 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: all over this country, so it's even though it may 434 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: have originated there in Wisconsin. I mean, I heard about 435 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: the ho dag growing up next this is something that 436 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: is much more obscure. This is possibly the most obscure 437 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: of all the cryptids that I'm talking about. And again 438 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm not necessary talking about cryptids. I should say monsters 439 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: if I just want to be particularly accurate. The Pumpkin Man. Now, 440 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: when I started investigating Brown Mountain in North Carolina where 441 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: people see the Brown Mountain lights, when I was a teenager, 442 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: that's way back then, I started hearing occasionally that there 443 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: was this creature that would be seen around Brown Mountain 444 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: called the Pumpkin Man. And this is not to be 445 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: confused with the character from the pumpkin Head movie. But look, 446 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: basically here is how he was described, and I would 447 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: just people would tell me about it. Sometimes i'd find 448 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: an Internet post. I was actually going back to see 449 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: if there was anything new, and I realized that I 450 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: had talked about this on Coast to Coast AM apparently 451 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: on July seventeenth of two thousand and nine, that people 452 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: who had told me they recently saw him right there 453 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: running around Brown Mountain described him as between four and 454 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: six feet tall, with a skinny body, branch like arms 455 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: and legs, a big head with a shriveled face, and 456 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: piercing glowing red eyes. The monster is said to just 457 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: appear and disappear in some mysterious way, and is also 458 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: said to have been seen at times floating in the 459 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: air in a little bubble. So pumpkin Man, he kind 460 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: of imagine. Here's what I imagine from what people are 461 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: telling me. Imagine something like a gray like a gray alien, 462 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: except extremely thin and withered and wrinkled, almost like it's 463 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: just super de high rated, but also much more wispy 464 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: and even scarier looking. That's basically what I'm what I've 465 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: gathered and look. I camped up there. I can't tell 466 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: you how many times I camped up on Brown Mountain, 467 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: and I never saw the Pumpkin Man. I never saw 468 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: any evidence of a punkin man. Now. I saw plenty 469 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: of weird things up there, as you know. I saw 470 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: the lights, videotape the lights numerous times. I had ghost 471 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: encounters up there, plenty of bizarro things. I think I 472 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: went through it time, slip up there, kind of like 473 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: a I walked through, perhaps a portal to another another 474 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: essence of the dimension. I've talked about all this before, 475 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: But I never saw a Pumpkin Man. But I haven't 476 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: heard a pumpkin Man story in a while, so I 477 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: wanted to bring that up to see if anybody out 478 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: there has a new pumpkin Man story. And let me 479 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: leave you with this, The hoop snake. Hop the hoop snake. Now, 480 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: according to folklore, the distinguishing feature of a hoop snake 481 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: is that it can grasp its tail in its jaws, 482 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: like the oroboros of Greek mythology, and then it can 483 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: roll after its prey like a wheel. So you get that. 484 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: Imagine a snake puts its tail in its mouth and 485 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: then it flips up like a tire and can roll, 486 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: especially downhills, roll very very quickly, much faster than it 487 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: could even slither to attack its prey. In one version 488 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: of the myth, the snake straightens out at the last second, 489 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: skewing its victim with its venomous tail. The only escape 490 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: is to hide behind a tree, which receives the deadly 491 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: blow instead and promptly dies from the poison. This is 492 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: actually he described all over the place, not just here 493 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: in the United States, but also Canada, Australia. I didn't 494 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: even know this, it said it was in the pecos 495 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: Bill stories. And here is one thing that stands out 496 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: for me about this. When I was growing up, there 497 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: was this old man who lived right down the road 498 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: from us, and he swore that when he was in 499 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: his twenties, he was out in the woods one day 500 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: and he saw one of these hoop snakes. He said 501 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: he saw the snake literally take its tail in its mouth, 502 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: flip up, and roll down a hill. And I don't 503 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: know if it came after him or not. I don't 504 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: recall him saying that, but he would put his hand 505 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: on a stack of Bibles and say he'd seen this. Now, 506 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: scientists say that this is a legendary creature, this is 507 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: a myth. There's no evidence, so I don't know. I mean, 508 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: may it sounds like a bunch of bs, obviously, But 509 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: that's a challenge for some of you who want to 510 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: go out there and make a great discovery. If you're 511 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: the first person to go out and actually document a 512 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: snake doing this, it's going to be a big deal 513 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: when we come back. Let's talk about this concept that 514 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: there might be some kind of weather manipulation going on. 515 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people are very suspicious right now, and 516 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad stuff happening. I'm Joshua wa 517 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: Pe Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio 518 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM paramorbal podcast Network, and I 519 00:37:39,920 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back to the final segment 520 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and 521 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, 522 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, And let me point out right up 523 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: front that this show is often recorded up to two 524 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: weeks in advance, so I can't really talk about things 525 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: in real time as they are happening, like you might 526 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: get from a live stream or a live radio So 527 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: who knows how much has changed in the world by 528 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: the time you hear this. Things are moving at a 529 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: pretty fast pace, and a lot changes in two weeks. 530 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: But here's the situation right now. I was born in Asheville, 531 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina. I lived in western North Carolina most of 532 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: my life basically up until in my forties, up into 533 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: the age of forty. You know, I started in my 534 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: late thirties traveling to back and forth to Puerto Rico. 535 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's that's my homeland. And over a week ago, 536 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: as you probably know, the Hurricane Helene came through and 537 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: just caused devastating historic flooding in western North Carolina and 538 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: all throughout the southeastern United States, and it just really 539 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: took everybody off guard. I mean, there are portions of 540 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: western North Carolina that were so destroyed that it's going 541 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: to be years for them to rebuild. And then there 542 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: were other parts that are basically pristine, like downtown Asheville, 543 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: where we do the Haunted Asheville Ghost Tours, perfectly fine, 544 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: nothing wrong there. It's just certain areas that were you know, 545 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: they got hit bad, and it threw everybody off guard. 546 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: Very few people were prepared for something like this. And 547 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: even as I record this show, I mean my mom 548 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: and dad and sister still and this is a week 549 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: after the storm. Over a week after the storm, they 550 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: still don't have electricity or water or internet, barely have 551 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: any cell service. Very very sketchy. And so that's why 552 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: I've always stressed the importance of having as much prep 553 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: as possible. I did episode seventy five of this show. 554 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: It's called Watt's in my bug out Bag, and I 555 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: actually tell you what I Josh Whoopee Warren have in 556 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: my bug out bag. And to give you some ideas 557 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to episode seventy five. 558 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: And of course, as you can imagine, some of the 559 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: people who fared very well through this have a sunshine 560 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: simple solar generator so they don't have to depend on gas. 561 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: But let me get back to the point here. I'm 562 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 1: not going to tell you all about what happened because 563 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: you can. I'm sure you've seen that on the news, 564 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: and by the time you hear this show, who knows 565 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: what other bad weather events have happened in this country. 566 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: But my point is, shortly after people could start communicating again, 567 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: I started having I was getting bombarded with all these 568 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: messages from people who were very suspicious, who had a 569 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: lot of conspiracies they wanted to tell me about regarding 570 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: weather manipulation, believing that this was not an act of nature, 571 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: that this was contrived, that this was this is something 572 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: that was done to somehow weather was weaponized. I mean, 573 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: they say, look here we are, we're right up here 574 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: on an election. That's fishy. And then people are claiming 575 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: that once a lot of these communities were wiped out, 576 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: it just so happens that these are places where there 577 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: are these rich deposits of lithium and other precious resources, 578 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: and that the government wants to give out these contracts 579 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: these lithium companies so they can take that to make 580 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: batteries for electric cars and push forward that electric agenda. Oh, 581 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: I've heard all this stuff, and let me just tell 582 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: you right off the bat, I believe one hundred percent 583 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: that there does exist weather manipulation technology. I have talked 584 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: for years and years and years, probably twenty years about 585 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: the HAARP project, for example, HAARP, And if you don't 586 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: know what that is, go look it up. HAARP. So 587 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: I am no stranger to the fact that weather can 588 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: be manipulated. But here are some things to keep in mind. 589 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: Even if there were, or let me put it in, 590 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: even if there is some supervillain politician with a machine 591 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: that controls the weather, I still think that Mother Nature 592 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: is so much more powerful that toying with it this 593 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: close to an election could easily backfire. And then it's 594 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: just not as reliable as you might think. And you 595 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: also have to understand that the area of Asheville, right 596 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: there near Asheville that was hit the hardest, was built 597 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: more village and all growing up we always heard about 598 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: the Great flood of nineteen sixteen, this historic, unbelievable flood 599 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: that occurred where you'd see pictures where like everything was gone, 600 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: just swallowed up by water. There's a giant church there. 601 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: The water was all the way up to the steeple. 602 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I always knew that this happened in nineteen sixteen, 603 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: and I wondered why people didn't realize that this is 604 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: probably going to happen again someday. Now, granted, this flood 605 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: was even bigger than the one in nineteen sixteen, but 606 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: you also have to realize that nature goes through these 607 00:43:51,920 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: very weird, unpredictable, sort of sporadic situations, well cycles, that's 608 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for. Like, for example, everybody talks you, 609 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: we hear a lot of people saying like, oh, well, 610 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: there's global warming. You know, the Earth is warming up. 611 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: And yet oddly enough, the hottest day on record was 612 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: in Death Valley National Park in nineteen thirteen. That's weird. 613 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 1: So it's hard to predict what Mother Nature is going 614 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: to do. And I'm not prepared to jump straight to 615 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: the conclusion that this is an intentional act of some 616 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: kind of weaponizing of weather. I'm not saying it's not 617 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that if you use Akham's razor, which 618 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: is that the likeliest explanation is the simplest one, then 619 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: we know that that is an area that has gotten 620 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: historically flooded, and it's gotten historically flooded again. But it 621 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: affects us even more now because we're even more populated, 622 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: and we also have more infrastructure that directs water and 623 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: focuses water and channels water. So I'm just I know 624 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: some of you are going to be ticked that I'm 625 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: not saying, yes, it's true, the government has shot their 626 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: heartbeam and fired up this hurricane and directed it with 627 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: their joystick right there. I know some of you are 628 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: going to be disappointed that I'm not saying that, but 629 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the truth. I don't think we 630 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: can jump to that conclusion. I think that there is 631 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: a good possibility that this is something that could be 632 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: could be natural. But and you know, I was thinking 633 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: about how that in the Bible and Genesis, it says 634 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: that God regretted creating man. I'm looking at here. Genesis 635 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: chapter six, verse six says the Lord regretted making human 636 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: beings on the earth. His heart was aggrieved, and so 637 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: the Lord said, I will wipe out from the earth 638 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: the human beings I have created, and not only the 639 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: human beings, but also the animals and the crawling things 640 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: and the birds of the aar, for I regret that 641 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: I made them, and then he created the great flood. 642 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe it's something closer to that. Maybe God 643 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: or Mother Nature is doing this because of how we 644 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: have allowed our society to behave. And you might think, 645 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 1: but why me, I'm one of the good ones. Well, 646 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: it reminds me of that scene in the Clint Eastwood 647 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: movie Unforgiven, when the kid kills a man and feels 648 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: bad about it, and then he says to Clint Eastwood, well, 649 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: I guess they had it coming. And Clint Eastwood, he 650 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: squints as he stares into the distance, he says, we 651 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: all got it coming. So I hope you have a 652 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: nice day. But you know, just try to do the 653 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: best you can do. You can't control the whole world, 654 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: but you can make an impact on those around you. 655 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: So I hope you stay focused on that and try 656 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: to be a good example and have some sympathy for others. 657 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: And I thank you all so much, every single one 658 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: of you. I thank you so much who have donated 659 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: money and resources and time and have continued to do 660 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: everything that you can to help others, because that's all 661 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 1: you can do. You know, it doesn't matter where you live. 662 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking for my own country. It doesn't matter 663 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: where you live. There's always the potential for something, whether 664 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: it's an earthquake or a forest fire, or a tornado 665 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: or a blizzard, all right, or a drought. I mean, 666 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: there's just always potential for something. And you know, we 667 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: are we're kind of like fleas living on the earth here, 668 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: and we can't always believe that everything that happens is 669 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: a conspiracy. We also have to just be aware that 670 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: you need to do your best to prepare because tomorrow 671 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: everything can just turn upside down. So let's pray for 672 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: everybody out there who is still struggling and still suffering, 673 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: and we'll just keep working to make it better. And 674 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: now let us all focus. Take a deep breath, close 675 00:48:48,200 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: your eyes if you can. Here's the good Fortune tone. 676 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me 677 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: at Joshua P. Warren Plus visit Joshuapwarren dot com to 678 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: sign up for my free e newsletter to receive a 679 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: free instant gift and check out the cool stuff in 680 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: the Curiosity Shop all at Joshuapwarren dot com. I have 681 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: a fun one lined up for you next time, I promise. 682 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: So please tell all your friends to subscribe to this 683 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: show and to always remember the Golden Rule. Thank you 684 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 1: for listening, thank you for your interest and support. Thank 685 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: you for staying curious, and I will talk to you 686 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: again soon. You've been listening to Strange Things on the 687 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 688 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: Well, if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait 689 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 2: till you hear the next one. 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