1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: This is John, your og Okay story Time podcast host, 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: and we got some delicious, juicy stories coming up. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: But if you want to hear that deliciousness, you know, 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: just stick around for a two minute break with a 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: My mother in law ruined my hair in my sleep 8 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: because she thought I was cheating on her son. 9 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: Just cut off her hair. 10 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, easy eye for an eye. So I'm still processing this, 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: but I need to get it off my chest. Last 12 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: night I woke up and realized someone had destroyed my hair. 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: This is a woman's worst night. 14 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean, would you like to have your hair shade off? 15 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: No? Is it exclusive to women? That a not but 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: it is more extreme for women. 17 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: I guess it's there's a if you have long hair. 18 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from ev Stevie on the 19 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: Okay Storytime suburt it so one side is a jagged 20 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: pixie cut and the other side hangs awkwardly past my shoulder. 21 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: First I thought I was losing my mind. Maybe I 22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: sleep walked or something, but no. I confronted my husband 23 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: Tim because he's been acting weird lately, but he denied it. 24 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: Then he drops the bombshell. My mom might have done it. 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: He was in on it. 26 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: He was so in on it he knew. 27 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Apparently, my mother in law, let's call her Diane, 28 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: is convinced I've been cheating on Tim. Why because last 29 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: week she saw me having lunch. 30 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: With the coworker with his side sitting though for the. 31 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: Record, the coworker, Kyle, is gay, and we were literally 32 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: talking about work. But Diane decided I must be having 33 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: an affair, and instead of you know, talking to me 34 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: or Tim, she broke into our house in the middle 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: of the night with scissors and went full Edward's scissor 36 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: hands on my hair. That's insane. 37 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe this is real. 38 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: I mean, no, peace convinced it is. This morning, I 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: confronted her. At first, she played innocent, but when I 40 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: pressed her, she literally said, well maybe now you'll think 41 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: twice before our humiliating my son. I was fuming. I 42 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: told her Kyle isn't even into women, but she just 43 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: rolled her eyes and said something like that's what they all. 44 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Say, they they're all gay these days. 45 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: I didn't even know how to respond to that level 46 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: of delusion. Tim is horrified and apologetic, but I'm struggling here. 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: This woman violated my personal space, destroyed my hair, and 48 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: acted like she was in the right. I want to 49 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: go no contact with her, but him is stuck between 50 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: me and his mom, and I feel like this is 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: going to be a huge blow up in our marriage. 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Any advice, because I'm honestly at a loss year and 53 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: there isn't at it. 54 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Oh that was a short one. 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: There's more, Okay, there's there's so much more to this story. 56 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: The fact that he is at all like, I don't 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: know which way to go. There's you know, there's good 58 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: guys on both sides. I don't know. Well he's saying, he's. 59 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: Like always caught between his mom and Opie. His mom 60 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: literally cut her hair off. I'd be like, Mom, that's 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: insane of you. 62 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: I don't think Opie is saying. He's not saying that. 63 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: I think he's just like, how do I navigate these 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: two very important relationships and one is very much in 65 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: the wrong. 66 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he's got some 67 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: some hard boundaries for sure, personally conspiracy theory. I think 68 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: he's in on it. I think I think his reaction 69 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: to one, Yeah, knowing that she was like the most 70 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: likely culprit and then being like, oh, I don't know 71 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: which one to choose. I think he's in on it. 72 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: I think he thought she was cheating. 73 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: What do you think here? 74 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: It sounds like again he's like, my mom may have 75 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: done it. 76 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very suspicious where he's like at first 77 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: he was like, I don't know, and then he's like, okay, 78 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: like she does this thing when she's angry. 79 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: How did she break into the house. But there is 80 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: an edit. My husband and I will be going to 81 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: my mother in law tomorrow to talk to her about 82 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: the situation again. Hopefully everyone will be calmed down by 83 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: then and I won't have to threaten legal action. Thank 84 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: you all for the support and suggestions. I will keep 85 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: them in mind. Edit number two to everyone saying this 86 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: is fake, I don't know how to make you believe me, 87 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: and honestly, I shouldn't have to send us a picture 88 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: of your hair. 89 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Send it, do it. 90 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here crying in my friend's guest room, completely broken, 91 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: trying to make sense of how my life has fallen 92 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: apart in the span of twenty four hours. My husband, 93 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: the person I thought I could trust the most, betrayed 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: me in the most humiliating way possible. His mother violated 95 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: me in my sleep, and now strangers are telling me 96 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: my pain isn't real. I wish with everything in me 97 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: that this wasn't real. I wish I wasn't sitting here 98 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to rebuild my life, how 99 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: to ever trust someone again, or how to even face 100 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: the people around me after this, I've barely eaten. I've 101 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 3: been shaking all day, and I feel like my world 102 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: is crumbling beneath me. I turned to red It because 103 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: I don't know where else to go. I need advice, 104 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: a sense of support, something to help hold myself together. 105 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 3: But these accusations, they're just making me feel even more alone. 106 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: Look what you've done, Alex, help what helank you? If 107 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: you can't believe me, fine, but please don't make this 108 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: harder than it is. I wouldn't wish this pain on anyone. 109 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: And there is an update update. My mother in law 110 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: cut my hair in my sleep because she thought I 111 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: cheated on my husband, and. 112 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: Now I've found out my husband helped her. I was 113 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: freaking right. I did not believe that you didn't believe me. 114 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: I believe your friends. 115 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: It's not your opinion. Wow, Okay, well I was right, 116 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: so jokes on you. 117 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: Out of the conversation we had with Diane this morning, 118 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: I know my husband Tim was acting weird. At first, 119 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was just guilt about standing up to 120 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: his mom, but it felt like more than that. He's 121 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: been avoiding eye contact and getting defensive when I bring 122 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: up what happened earlier. I couldn't take it anymore. So 123 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: I sat him down and told him he needed to 124 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 3: be one hundred percent honest with me about everything. That's 125 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: when he dropped the bombshell. Apparently Diane didn't come up 126 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: with the haircut idea on her own. 127 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: That's even why he's like, ohg idea. 128 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: Not like it's not even that he was involved in it, 129 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: Like he was a you know, an accomplice. He was 130 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: the mastermind. 131 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: He was the villain mastermind. 132 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 3: Tim admitted that he knew about it ahead of time 133 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: and even helped her planet and even helped her. I 134 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: felt like I'd been punched in the stomach. 135 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: He said he. 136 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: Truly thought I was cheating on him with Kyle, my 137 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: gay coworker, because Diane had convinced him that there was 138 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: too much evidence to ignore when she suggested cutting my 139 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: hair is some kind of weird punishment. He didn't stop her. 140 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: In fact, he led her into our house that night 141 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: while I was sleeping. 142 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no, not. 143 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: You immediately have to get divorced. Tim said he didn't 144 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: want to confront me directly because he wasn't ready for 145 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: the truth, so instead he let his mother do this 146 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: insane thing to me, thinking it would force me to 147 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: come clean. Afterward, when I didn't admit to cheating, he 148 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: started realizing that he might have been wrong. He kept saying, 149 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. I was just confused, but I honestly 150 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: don't know how to process this. This wasn't just Diane 151 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: acting like a lunatic. This was both of them and 152 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: my own husband betrayed me in one of the most 153 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: humiliating ways possible. I packed a bag and am staying 154 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: with a friend tonight, and while I figure out what 155 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: to do, I don't know if I can ever trust 156 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: him again after this. It's not just the haircut, it's 157 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: the fact that he didn't talk to me, believed the 158 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: worst about me without any proof, and actively participated in 159 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: something so cruel and violating. As for Diane, she's officially 160 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: deceased to me. I've already told Tim that I don't 161 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: want her in my life ever again, regardless of what 162 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 3: happens between us. Right now, I'm torn. 163 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: Part of me. 164 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: Wants to file a police report on both of them 165 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: for what they did, but I'm scared of how messy 166 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: we'll get. Another part of me just wants to cut 167 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: ties and move on, but that feels like letting them 168 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: off too easy. I don't know what my next step is, 169 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: but I do know this. I deserve better than this. 170 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: That's incredibly lowbar. 171 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: That is the truth. You do deserve better than that. 172 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who has supported me through this. 173 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Your comments and advice have meant the world, and I'm 174 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: truly grateful for the kindness and understanding. It's helping me 175 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: find the strength to figure out what comes next. And 176 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: there is an update. 177 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: But what do you think OP should do one? I 178 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: think that we all have the capacity for some craziness. 179 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Especially I'm not justified. Let me finish not justifying his 180 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: behavior in the slightest Sure we all have the capacity 181 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: for craziness. It seems like he thought his whole world 182 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: was crumbling beneath his feet. Yeah, and his wife was 183 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: cheating on him, and he sought out something wild. There's 184 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: like a hell, Mary, I don't know his thought process 185 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: on op side is so correct, like how could you 186 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: trust someone exactly? Ever? Again? Who when they believe they 187 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: are being wronged in the relationship, they will go to 188 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: extreme measures in ways that literally violate you. Yeah, instead 189 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: of me to get instead of communicating. So, as OP, 190 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand how you could ever trust that person 191 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: again exactly. 192 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Outside, she's deciding whether or not to divorce him. 193 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. As an outsider, I could have a slight 194 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: amount of empathy, I'd be like, damn, I was crazy, 195 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: but like we're all kind of crazy. But as OP, like, 196 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: I don't see a road back to trusting or forgiving 197 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: that person. 198 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree. I think that I think she 199 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: has to kind of divorce him. But there is another update. 200 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to divorce him and I may 201 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: file a police report. After everything that's happened, I've been 202 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: thinking a lot about my next steps, and I've come 203 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: to a heartbreaking but necessary conclusion. I don't think there's 204 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: any coming back from this. I trusted Tim with my heart, 205 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 3: my safety, my life, and he betrayed me in ways 206 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: I never thought possible. I can't imagine a future where 207 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: I feel safe with him, where I can trust him, 208 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: or where I don't carry the weight of this violation 209 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: every time I'm strongly considering filing for divorce. The thought 210 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: of staying with him feels unbearable, But at the same time, 211 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: I can't stop worrying about the messiness of it all. 212 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: I just want to cut ties completely, to walk away 213 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: and rebuild my life without him or his mother dragging 214 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: me down any further. As for filing a police report, 215 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm leaning toward it, but I'm scared of what it 216 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: might bring. I know what they did was a crime. 217 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: My own husband led his mother into our home to 218 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: me in my sleep, But the thought of dealing with 219 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: legal battles or even just having to relive this again 220 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: and again in statements is exhausting. Yeah, part of me 221 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: wants to hold them accountable, but another part just wants 222 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: to run far away and never look back. 223 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking, like, would this just be 224 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: out of punishment and is there a possibility that you. 225 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: Actually might more harness yourself, do. 226 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: More harm to yourself, and punish yourself in the process. 227 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to try and get a police report. 228 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: When my car got hit in a parking garage, Like I, 229 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: I've never found out who it was, and it was 230 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: so annoying going through like the police and then the 231 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: security and filing the report and never getting anything back 232 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: about it. And so I can only imagine that this 233 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: is like twenty degrees harder. So yeah, it's just up 234 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: to where you're at right now. Right now, I'm taking 235 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: it one step at a time. I've been talking to friends, 236 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: trying to find some clarity and all of this chaos. 237 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: It's terrifying and painful, but I know one thing for sure. 238 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: I deserve so much better than this. Yes, thank you 239 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: to everyone who has shown me kindness and support. It 240 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: means the world to me. 241 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: Right now, there's two text messages. I'm going to pull 242 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: them up on the Okay. 243 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: Text messages we have presumably from Ope. I need you 244 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: to be honest with me. Did you know what mother 245 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: in law was going to do? And the Opie's husband says, 246 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: I didn't think it would go this far? 247 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 248 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: Opie says that is not an answer. Did you know 249 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: she was planning to cut my hair? The husband says 250 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: she was upset? Okay, she kept saying you needed to 251 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: learn a lesson, but I did think she would actually 252 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: do it, He responds, learn a lesson? Are you hearing 253 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: yourself right now? She told you she was going to 254 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: do it, and you still let her in. I thought 255 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: maybe she'd cool down after talking to you. 256 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: I called BS liar. 257 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: She told you she wanted to teach me about lesson 258 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: by cutting my hair, and you thought it would be fine. 259 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? 260 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: I didn't think she actually go through with. 261 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: It, but you didn't stop her either. You didn't warn me, 262 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: didn't protect me. You just let it happen. 263 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to handle it. 264 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: Okay, she was so worked up, but I didn't want 265 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: to make things worse. 266 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: And then there's another text message. I'll pull it up 267 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: to this. 268 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: Is this is not I'm calling BS. It's a lie. Yeah, 269 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: it's a lie. If your mother is saying I'm gonna 270 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: go in and cut her hair and you're like in 271 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: your head thinking I'm gonna let her in and they're 272 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna have a nice conversation. 273 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you don't like go into the room. 274 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: To check and protect your partner. 275 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: For this one. Have Sophia read the blue and then 276 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: Alex read. 277 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: Those Okay, worse, How could it possibly get worse? You knew, 278 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: you knew she was going to do it, and you 279 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: let her. 280 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: I didn't mean for happened like this, but it did happen. 281 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: And now I'm sitting here, humiliated, betrayed, and wondering how 282 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to ever trust you again. 283 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I really am with one L. 284 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: Sorry doesn't fix this. Sorry does it make me feel 285 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: in my own safe, in my own home anymore. 286 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't know who you are anymore. 287 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: I need space to figure this out. 288 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: Blank, Please just come home and we could talk about this. 289 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: No, you made your choice and now I'm gonna make mine, 290 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: and she walks out. 291 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Damn my god, Mike freakin drop and op. 292 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: He continues, I'm going through an incredibly traumatic situation and 293 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what my legal options are. My mother 294 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: in law entered my home in the middle of the night, 295 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: with my husband's knowledge and cut my hair while I 296 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: was sleeping. She did this because she believed I was cheating. 297 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't. 298 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: I confronted my husband, while he didn't outright admit to 299 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: planning this, and he essentially confessed to knowing what his 300 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: mom intended to do, and letting her into our house 301 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: that night. I'm planning to leave him and in seriously 302 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: considering filing both a police report for assault on my 303 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: mother in law and a report against my husband for 304 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: enabling her. Would this conversation be enough to support filing 305 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: or a police report for what happened? 306 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: I think so. 307 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if that's what OPI wants to do, I 308 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: think that that's a lot of proof. 309 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm not I have no idea about legality. I'll say that, 310 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: but he didn't say I knew she was gonna do 311 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: this and I let her in. 312 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: But does confirm that she did it? Could it help 313 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: me in a divorce if I decided to pursue one? 314 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: Is it worth consulting a lawyer? Even if I'm not 315 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: one hundred percent sure about filing a report yet? And 316 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: I hope that you guys are one hundred percent sure 317 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: about joining us live every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, 318 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: and Twitch. 319 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Just have her profile. 320 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: We're probably live right now. I've documented everything, photos of 321 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: my hair, text messages with my husband, and written down 322 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: the timeline of events. I just don't know if this 323 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: conversation would actually hold up his evidence, since he doesn't 324 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: outright admit to anything, but heavily implies it. Any advice 325 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: is appreciated. I'm feeling law scared and overwhelmed right now, 326 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: and that is the end of that story. 327 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: I am divorcing my husband even after his cancer die. Ooh, 328 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: I know, oh that the title sounds really bad, but 329 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: please hear me out. I am new on Reddit. This 330 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: is my first post and English is not my first language, 331 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: so this will be a long one and I'll try 332 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: to explain everything as good and short as I can. 333 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: I forty two year old female and married to my husband, 334 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: forty nine year old male for almost twelve years. We 335 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: met online and soon started dating. He did everything for me. 336 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: We texted every day because we had a long distance relationship, 337 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: and saw each other on weekends. He came to me 338 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: because I have no driving license and no car and 339 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: still don't have that. Depending how far it was, that 340 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: was a lot for him to go every time. By 341 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from you dash Karma service turtle 342 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: on the r dash Okay storytime subreddit. So he has 343 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: long hair, blue eyes, and best of all, two cats. 344 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: Long story short. I fell in love and he proposed 345 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: to me after three months. Whoa so early. That's the thing. 346 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes you go really quick and then you find out 347 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: down the line that they're not who you thought they were. 348 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: You start off really quick, and then you end really quick. Unfortunately, 349 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: that should have been the first red flag, but I 350 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: didn't know any better at the time about love bombing. 351 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: We got engaged, I moved to his city. He introduced 352 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: me to his friends and everyone welcomed me very nice. 353 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: My mother in law the first time we met, said 354 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: just call me mom, and I really liked her. She 355 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: was always nice and kind to me, and so were 356 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: his sister, his niece, and my brother in law. Over 357 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: a year after our engagement, we got married. I was 358 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: so proud to have his last name, and he was 359 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: happy with me, or so I thought. One of his friends, 360 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: Miranda A Fick name, was really good at crocheting, and 361 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: she had her own blog or still has, I don't know. 362 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: We're also friends on social media at the time. Then 363 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: my grandma passed away. I was devastated. She had dementia 364 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: and was not in a good condition. She passed away 365 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: shortly after my birthday and was buried only two days 366 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: before Christmas. Christmas is my very favorite time of the year. 367 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: That's really hard. 368 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: At that time, I was married for two and a 369 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: half years. I posted on social media about the loss 370 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: of my grandma. Miranda saw the post and condolenced me, 371 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: but shortly after she contacted my husband and told him 372 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: that she didn't think that this was appropriate and how 373 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: dare I do something like that, et cetera. What okay? 374 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: So one of his friends, Yeah, was like, saw the 375 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: post about Opie's grandma, was like, this is inappropriate about her? What? Yeah, 376 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Opie posted about her grandma passing Like how damned? 377 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: Was like? 378 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Reached out to Opie's husband and was like, how dare 379 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: your wife? He agreed, and he agreed. I did not 380 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: understand that because Miranda had written about one of her 381 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: grandparents passing away on her blog around the same time. 382 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: I think it was like only one of us can 383 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: talk about are passing away grandparents. In their messages, both 384 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: of them ranted about me. At that time. I didn't 385 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: know anything about that, but his phone rang and rang 386 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: and rang, so I wanted to know who he was 387 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: talking with. I demanded to tell me what was going on. 388 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: He showed me the messages between him and Miranda. I 389 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: was furious. They had not only been ranting about me, 390 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: they also made jokes about my situation. 391 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, oh, he's Grandma's best way. 392 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: It's so embarrassed, loser. 393 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: Who are these like cartoon villains? 394 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: Literally? I told him to cut all contact with Miranda 395 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: or I would divorce him ultimatum here, and that he 396 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: needs to apologize to me for his really bad behavior. 397 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: And how dare he making fun of me and my 398 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: grandma's passing away? So he deleted her number. It took 399 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: a month for me to forgive him and to move on. 400 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: How could you move on if you don't understand. That's 401 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: why I don't think it's like I'm gonna punish him. 402 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut this person off. 403 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: You've put a band aid over it, put a band aid. 404 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: And you have a wound. It's still festering and you 405 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: don't know why. So you don't trust your partner. 406 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: You haven't solved anything. 407 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, second red flag a big one. I know now 408 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: have left him right then and there. Fast forward a 409 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: few years, I cut all contact to my family. I 410 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: only have my sister now, who I love so dearly 411 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: because of issues that got more and more over the years. 412 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: It was better for me and my husband agreed. My 413 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: sister and I have always been targets for my mother 414 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: and enough was enough worth a complete separate post. So 415 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: four years after my Grandma's passing away, my Grandpa passed away. 416 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh this is so sad. I loved him so much. 417 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: We regularly called each other, and whenever he went on 418 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: a small vacation he set me postcards. One day, I 419 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: got a call from my oldest brother and he told 420 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: me after my grandfather passed away at the hospital that 421 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: day after heart surgery, and after a week they decided 422 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: to stop the life support machines because my grandpa would 423 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: have passed away anyway. I didn't even know that he 424 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: was in the hospital. No one had told me or 425 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: my sister. I can't describe how I felt. And I 426 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: had to call my sister to tell her what had 427 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: just happened. We both cried on the phone. My mother 428 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: decided to set the date for the funeral on my 429 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: sixth wedding anniversary. It was a Saturday, and I guess 430 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: she took that date so everyone could attend and not 431 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: have to take a day off work. So I tried 432 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: not to hold that against her. I asked my husband, 433 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: after all my mother had done to me, to please 434 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: stand by me and comfort me. He said, yes, of course. 435 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: First thing he did at the funeral was to hug 436 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: my mother tight, and during the funeral not even bothered 437 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: to take my hand or comfort me. Is this after 438 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: the Miranda situation? 439 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: This is after the Marnin This is four years after 440 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: the Miranda situation, and it seems like they haven't fixed anything. 441 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: Really, Oh, he said, my husband didn't even take my 442 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: hand to comfort me, but my sister did. Third massive 443 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: red flag here, but I did not even recognize it 444 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: at first because it was so so sad, and my 445 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: sister was there for me. Fast forward to August twenty 446 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: twenty two. This is getting important for later. A warm 447 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: August Saturday morning, around nine am, I got a call 448 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: from my friend Sandra. I picked up the phone and 449 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: said hi and laughed because I was happy to hear 450 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: from her. She had two little kids and a mom 451 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: that required care, so I not often got the chance 452 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: to talk to her, and she lived in another state. 453 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: But on the phone was not Sondra, it was my sister. 454 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I could barely hear her because she was crying very hard. 455 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: My alarm bells went off and I asked my sister 456 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: what happened. She told me Sandra had passed away that morning. 457 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: She was thirty nine years old and she had what 458 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: two child kid. I was in shock, complete shock. I 459 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: won't go into details here, but it was ruled natural 460 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: passing away. As you can imagine, I started crying and 461 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: I thought about the kids and the widower. Just oh 462 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: my god, No, that can't be real. No, I could 463 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: start crying right now. It still hurts as if it 464 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: was just today that it happened. Her funeral was a 465 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: few weeks later, and my husband and I took a 466 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: few days off of work to attend the funeral. Everybody 467 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: was there, also my ex best friend. We haven't talked 468 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: to each other for over a year at that time, 469 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: but I was the one who called her and told 470 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: her about Sandra's passing. Are in contact again since then? Okay, 471 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: the funeral. My husband decided to not sit next to 472 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: me during the funeral. Yes, you read that right, and 473 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: not comfort. I don't get that. I don't understand what 474 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: is at this point? Does your husband hate you? Yeah? 475 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: Or does he? Is he just so uncomfortable with showing 476 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: with passing away. Yeah, doesn't know how to comfort comfort 477 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: his wife. 478 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: Because this is insane. This is insane behavior too. Not once, 479 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: but two times at like actually three three times. This 480 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: is the third time, not be able to comfort someone 481 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: who is mourning. 482 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: Home Again, I asked him why he didn't comfort me again, 483 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: he told me that I am a grown up woman 484 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: and I have to deal with it on my own, 485 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: and that I'm not his priority. As you can imagine, 486 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: I cried every fricking single night, and he had the 487 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: audacity to tell me that end quote. Yes I heard 488 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: you crying, end quote, and didn't do anything. What a 489 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: piece of crap. Now here comes the kicker. One day 490 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: before or one day after the funeral, he exchanged numbers 491 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: with another woman I didn't know. Nine months later I 492 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: caught wind of it because his phone rang very often. 493 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: I asked him who this was and who he was 494 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: riding with. He stupidly showed me the chat. 495 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: Thing. 496 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, here you go. 497 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: He doesn't care. The thing is that we've seen multiple times. 498 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: It seems like he's like, oh, like he's doing this 499 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: and like doesn't realize or he's like trying to hide it. 500 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: No, seems like it just doesn't care. 501 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: He doesn't care about you at all. 502 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Like given pain left and right, and like whatever, you. 503 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: Don't deserve to be comforted. I'm cheating? 504 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: What of it? What of it? Assuming He and Tessa 505 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: fake name met during the days of the funeral, and 506 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: his first words in the chat were quote, Hi, little one, 507 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I finally have your number. I just overflowed the chat 508 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: and at one point I read that he complimented her 509 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: on her beautiful hair. You need to know that my 510 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: hair started falling out massively after I got the news 511 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: of Sondra because the shock, and my husband knew that 512 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: very well. I went to the doctor to get checked, 513 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: but everything was okay. It was definitely because of the shock. 514 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: He comforted her because of some stress with her boyfriend 515 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: at the time. Also, as you can imagine, I went ballistic. 516 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: Not even that he told me, I'm a grown up 517 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: woman who needs to deal with the death of my 518 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: beloved friend on my own. I'm not his priority. No, 519 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: he thought it was a really good idea to give 520 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: some b his number and comfort her because some relationship issues. 521 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, what the F And I asked him why 522 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: he comforted her and not me. He entered quote, she 523 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: had a bad time and needed help. Yep, he really 524 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: said that right into my face. Guess what happened. I 525 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: slapped him hard got I was so devastated and angry. 526 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: How could he do something like that to me. I 527 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: never had any suspicion of what he was capable of 528 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: doing something like that. I always trusted him completely. What 529 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: a fool I was. No, you just trust your partner 530 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: as you should trust a partner, not this partner, that 531 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: part Please, don't trust this partner. Don't trust this one. 532 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: And again. I should have let him there and then again, 533 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: but I didn't. Tessa lived a few states away, so 534 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: I could be sure that nothing physical ever happened between them, 535 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: but it was still a betrayal. He swore to never 536 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: ever gave his number to another woman, and to ask 537 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: me if he would met some new friends, if it 538 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: would be okay, if numbers would be exchanged. In January 539 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: this year, he went to rehab because of some back 540 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: pain issues. During that time, we had not much contact 541 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: because divorce is on the table since December twenty twenty third, 542 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: but we wanted to work things out. I hear you 543 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: asking Why didn't you leave him earlier? Why did you 544 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: stay so long? I married him because I love him. 545 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: I gave my ward to stay in good times and 546 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: bad times, and I don't take that easy. I wanted 547 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: to grow old with him. I could picture us sitting 548 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: on the sofa, watching the movies we like, laughing at 549 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: old jokes and cuddling. Boy, was I wrong. 550 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 3: I wonder really quick if OP is from like a 551 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 3: religious background because of this like pretty steadfast refusal to 552 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: divorce or like hesitancy to this divorce. 553 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: I think it's possible. And I also just think that's 554 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: the narrative that is given to all most Western cultures around, 555 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: like this romantic fairy tale of You're gonna be with 556 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: one person for the rest of your life, through everything, 557 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: and then when people are mistreated, this narrative is so 558 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: not serving because it locks people into situations that harm them. AnyWho, 559 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: After three weeks of rehab, he came home. We haven't 560 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: talked much during his rehab, but we were friendly with 561 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: each other. Everything seemed normal. After an hour of his return, 562 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: he started getting angry. He said, I had blocked him 563 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: on whatstep and everything? I was taken aback? What we 564 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: just texted the day before. What is happening here? I 565 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: asked him straight if he had exchanged numbers with some 566 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: woman again. He said, quote, no, just with men that 567 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: were in his rehab groove. His phone again started to 568 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: ring very often, and you know what is coming next? 569 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Of course I got suspicious. He told me it was eBay. 570 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 3: What I was like, Hey, it's eBay, just wanted to 571 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: link up, just running the kissry little face. 572 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: He's like, it's Domino's babe. 573 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: Jill said, they love me. 574 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: Oh that's so sweet of this company. Haha. Do you 575 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: really think I'm that stupid? So I waited, and one 576 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: day he took out the trash. I got his phone 577 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: and went through his what's that messages, and there it 578 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: was a chat with Cindy fick name, in which he 579 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: told her that he's asking me about my feelings and 580 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: that he is the one making all compromises and so 581 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: on and so on. I said nothing. A few days later, 582 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, his phone again rang all the time, 583 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: but this time I told him, I know it's not eBay, 584 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: and he said, fine, it's Walmart. You got me. I 585 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: told him to show me his phone, and there another 586 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: woman with him about but massages. We had really big 587 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: fights about all of that, and I cried like I 588 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: never cried before. He did not even bother to apologize. 589 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: He said they were those friends. Classic right. I may 590 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: have been naive, but I'm not stupid. One week later, 591 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: he let me go through his phone again. This guy 592 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: is like, just like balls, they literally don't care. He's like, yeah, literally, 593 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: and you will not believe whom he was texting with. 594 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: I found one name I didn't recognize and looked into 595 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: the chat. I scrolled and scrolled end up. You remember 596 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: the name Miranda. Yes, on top of that chat, I 597 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: saw her name. One year after my grandma passed, she 598 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: had contacted him again. He did not block her like 599 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: he promised to what he. 600 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: Didn't go follow through this promises. 601 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: He didn't. It's the truth. I believe it. I believe 602 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: it in a way. He did not block her, so 603 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: she had the opportunity to contact him. For all these years, 604 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: he met her, texted her, ranted about me with her, 605 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: and lied to me for eight whole years. All in all, 606 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 1: I found seven different women whom he was texting with 607 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: and lying about me. He told all of them that 608 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: I was the bad guy in this marriage. Four years 609 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: ago we moved into the flat we're now living in. 610 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Now I know why he wanted this flat in this area, Miranda, 611 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: Get this is living just two. 612 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: Blocks away, right under your nose. 613 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Right under great My trust in him is completely shattered. 614 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: So much more things have happened over the years with him, 615 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: and I can only guess that he has a narcissistic 616 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: personality disorder would also be a complete new posts explain 617 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: that here I trusted him, I still love him. I 618 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: try my best, and we could all agree that it's sure. 619 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: I've made mistakes too. Everybody does and I have no exception. 620 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: We love a self. 621 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: You're aware of being with him. That's the only mistake 622 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: I've seen. 623 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Well, maybe they made mistakes. Didn't write it in that's true. 624 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: It's a biased post. 625 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is no way to get him to act 626 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: as a husband, to behave with respect, to accept boundaries 627 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: and respect them, not to cross the lines to make compromises. 628 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: And what really hurts is him bad mouthing me in 629 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: front of woman I don't even know. Runn Hee has 630 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: smear campaign against me because he got caught. He is 631 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: now telling everybody that I am the one who did 632 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: what he did. There's no way in I would ever 633 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: betray someone like that. One thing he also said is 634 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: that I wasn't there for him when his mom passed away, 635 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: the odd dad. 636 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: He's a compulsive liar too. 637 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I had the flu of fever and everything, but I 638 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: still attended my mother in law's funeral. 639 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: She was actively sick, and he's like, you weren't there 640 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: for me twenty four seven. You didn't make me any soup. 641 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: He earns the money and is aware of the fact 642 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: that I depend on him financially. I try to save 643 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: money to get out of there. He's a pathological liar. 644 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: He lies about everything and to everybody. I'm so fed 645 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: up with this now, all right, we're getting to this lie. 646 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: I forgot the title. We got to the title. Okay, 647 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: that gave so much context. Okay, he's diagnosed with cancer. 648 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: Some of my friends say it's the karma he was 649 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: getting for what he has done to me. So here 650 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: is my session. Would I be the ahole if I 651 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: leave him? Even though he has cancer and maybe would 652 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: need help to recover. It's a relatively simple surgery. The 653 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: cancer will be easy to remove, and he won't eat 654 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: chemo or something like, I leave him, is this like 655 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: like a skin character. Yeah, it's going to be two hours. 656 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna be back to normal. I have a friend. 657 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: I had a friend who had cancer and it just 658 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: got it removed and it was Yeah, it was fortunately fine. 659 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: It's it's common form, like very scary things cancer. 660 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no to so so scary and like anyone who's 661 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: gone through that, like it is a very scary process. 662 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: But if you're like, should I stay with my husband. 663 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: Who could literally just get this cancer is thing removed 664 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: and be fine, then don't. 665 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: Stay with him. Doctor is telling you it's a simple surgery. 666 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. Leave him also, even if 667 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: you like that, believe him. Yeah I agree with that too. 668 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: Like literally leave him regardless you don't know him. He's 669 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: an adult. 670 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I cry almost every day. That is not me. I'm 671 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: a person who will always help and be there for 672 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: the ones I love. He let me cry all alone 673 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: when my girlfriend passed away, and I confess I let 674 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: him cry alone when he got his diagnosis. I told 675 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: him why I want him to not dare crying in 676 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: front of me. That that is harsh, but it is understandable. Yeah, 677 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: if your partners. I told you they don't give an 678 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: f about your emotions, it's going to be pretty hard 679 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: to give an f about their remo. 680 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: But also, like if you if this is the only 681 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: like if you're like I don't care about your emotions 682 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: and then you stay together, it's just like why. 683 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he told you so long ago he doesn't 684 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: care about your emotions. Like it's been eight years. I 685 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: gave him the taste of his own medicine. And I 686 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: also confess I don't regret it. I know that I'm 687 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: not that kind of person. That is not who I 688 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: want to be. Any Further, I'm ready for your judgment. 689 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for reading, and for the ones among you who 690 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: are dealing with similar situations, please stay strong. There are 691 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: people who are loving. There is an update. 692 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: I have no judgment other than like, divorce. That is 693 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: the only advice I can get. 694 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: It makes no sense from our context. Yeah, everything you've 695 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: been given, it makes no sense for either of you 696 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: to stay in this Relationshi, Nope, nope, all right? Update? 697 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Why did I not leave earlier? Because only at the 698 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: last one point five years bad things have ended added 699 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: up drastically, and only six months ago I started to 700 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: realize that he has a pattern of his behavior. I 701 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: started looking deeper into questions I had and asked in 702 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: different groups to maybe tell me what I'm dealing with here. 703 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: It took me long to realize what he was doing, 704 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: how he was doing it, and what situations he did 705 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: this or that. And by the way, we swear we 706 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: have happier stories. We swear you just have to join 707 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: us live on YouTube and Facebook every day at three 708 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: pm PSD. And we're probably live right now. Is just 709 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: have our probile go check it. There's another relevant update, 710 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: but let's discuss we already did. Unless you have thoughts. 711 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, my final thought is you just need to. 712 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Leave divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce. Ev 713 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm not one to join the divorce chant and I'm champion. 714 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm chatting gotta all right. My sister now saw what 715 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: a person he is too. Before I was isolated by him, 716 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: no one believed me. Now my sister is fighting for 717 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: me like a lioness. I also told some friends about 718 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: my situation. I'm searching for help and I get help. 719 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: Next week. I will seek help from our social system 720 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: and contact my lawyer to get the documents for him 721 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: for spousal support. I know that I have nothing when 722 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: I leave. I mean nothing, no bed, no friend, know nothing. 723 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: But I would rather have nothing than staying in this 724 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: marriage with a man childhood is nothing but complain about 725 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: my behavior and treating me like craft. The reason why 726 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: I asked my question is still because of in good 727 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: times and bad time, but I see it only counts 728 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: for his bad time. 729 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: Yes, there we go. No, I think it's just knowing 730 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: that like we women at to fight for divorce and 731 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 3: you know it's it's a it's a rite that you 732 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: should exercise when needed. 733 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: Yum, I know, Um, It's just no, I'm eating a date, 734 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: even a freaking date. John here og host. We're gonna 735 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: get back to these stories, but a quick free minute 736 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: break from the house from our sponsors. 737 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: My husband cheated on me, but wants me to lie 738 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: to his family. Hi, guys, I'm extremely conflicted over what 739 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: to do in this situation and any advice is greatly appreciated. 740 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much in advance. I'm sorry for it 741 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: being such a long post. My husband twenty mins and 742 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: I twenty female have been together since March of twenty nineteen, 743 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: so six years this coming March. 744 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: Wow. So they got together when they were like fourteen 745 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: little babies. Whoa, yeah, oh my god. Yeah yeah. 746 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 3: We've been through a lot of hardships together throughout our relationship. 747 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from top signature ninety three 748 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 3: sixteen on the Okay storytime Separate. So at the very 749 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: beginning of a relationship, I was diagnosed with diabetes, which 750 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 3: was a huge lifestyle change for me. My mother became 751 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: very sick in September twenty twenty, and being that we 752 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: were still so young and in high school, in order 753 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: to stay together, I moved from Louisiana to Arkansas with 754 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: him because my mother and I had been evicted from 755 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: our apartment and she wasn't able to support me any 756 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 3: longer in high school. You moved to be with him? 757 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Wow? He came yeah, with his family, I assume. 758 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: So he came from an a family situation which didn't 759 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: improve after I moved in. In February of twenty twenty one, 760 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: my mother passed away. I was incredibly close with her, 761 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: and I was devastated to I still don't think I 762 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: fully recovered from her passing away. At this time, I 763 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: was enrolled in an online school, so being that I 764 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: was at home and his mother had to work to 765 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: support his two younger siblings, I took care of them, 766 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 3: two female and one male at the time for between 767 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: eight to twelve hours a day while trying to finish 768 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: high school and grieve my mother. 769 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: That's a lot that is grieving a parent. You just 770 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: car killers, stay with a new partner, newish partner, and 771 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: you're taking care of two kids. 772 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 3: Eventually, his mom and the two babies were kicked out 773 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: of the house and she became homeless. Me and my 774 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 3: husband supported them and collectively spent thousands on hotels, food, 775 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 3: and other necessities. 776 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: How, oh, yeah, you're in How How. 777 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: Did the situation persisted for around a year? When she 778 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: was kicked out of the house, she didn't have a car, 779 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: so I gave her my car and she used it 780 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 3: for over two years. This was a very hard time 781 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: for me, and I believed it changed me as a 782 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: person and affected our relationship in a huge way. In 783 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, after graduating high school, we both moved 784 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 3: away and began to build a life. After enrolling in college, 785 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: he realized in order for him to live in an 786 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 3: apartment with me off campus, as I am not enrolled 787 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: as a student. We would have to be married and 788 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: present the marriage certificate to his college. Okay, so that 789 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: kind of well, I mean sometimes they just say, like, 790 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 3: you can't have this housing unless you know you guys 791 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: are it's like a legal thing. 792 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: Maybe because it's maybe because it's like yeah, because it's 793 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: student housing. 794 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 795 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: Off and a piece on a student. 796 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: All first year students were required to live on campus 797 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: if they weren't able to provide an exemption. At the time, 798 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 3: it made complete sense to us. We had lived together 799 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: for almost two years already, so the thought of living 800 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: apart made no sense. We of course planned to marry 801 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: in the future anyway, so it seemed only logical. After 802 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: getting out of our prior situation, life was only supposed 803 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: to get better. We lived in the apartment together for 804 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 3: a year before moving into a house that we now rent. Eventually, 805 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: his brother, seventeen male at the time, was able to 806 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: move away from his mom and come live with us 807 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 3: at the new house. Throughout our entire relationship, we have 808 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 3: always had a volatile areda. We both witnessed domestic our 809 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 3: entire childhoods and I feel that contributed the way we 810 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 3: end up fighting. 811 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: For sure. It's your model of effics. 812 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: It's incredibly hard to admit, but we both went through 813 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 3: emotional and physical from one another. Things would escalate and 814 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: we would both say and do things that we both 815 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: admit we were ashamed of. There were several times in 816 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: which we almost broke up after a fight. Looking back, 817 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: we should have broken up a long time ago, and 818 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: I realized that now. Definitely like a lot of trauma 819 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: bonding going on here, especially because you've been together since 820 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: you were like teenagers, and we're together like in this 821 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: kind of not great household after you lost your mom. 822 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 3: I have a wonderful relationship with his grandmother. I love 823 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: her very much, and she makes it known how much 824 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 3: she loves me. From the beginning of a relationship, she 825 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 3: has always been there and made me feel so loved 826 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: and cared for. Though I had a rocky relationship with 827 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: his mom in the beginning, at this point we have 828 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: reconciled and I have a great relationship with her as well. 829 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: She also tells me she loves and misses me anytime 830 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 3: we talk on the phone. All this context to say, 831 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 3: after years of disagreements and trying to make things work. 832 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: My husband has fallen out of love with me. He 833 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 3: made it clear to me that he felt we were 834 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: incompatible and that we were no longer the same people 835 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 3: that had gotten together at fifteen. How could you be? 836 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: No one is I am? I am so far from 837 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 3: the person I was at fifteen. 838 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: And it's great, it's good. That is how it should go. 839 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: But just the question is, like, maybe the two people 840 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: at fifteen were good for each other. Yeah, and now 841 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: it seems like again he's saying, like. 842 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 3: Maybe you needed each other at that point and that 843 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: was really helpful in that time of your life. 844 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, it goes back to what we were saying 845 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: earlier of like this continuous choice. 846 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 3: Until it's no longer beneficial. 847 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: For the longer serving each person, And then you know 848 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: it served each other for a while, and that's great, 849 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: but you gotta go separate ways. 850 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: He expressed the desire for me to work on myself, 851 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 3: improve my emotional control, become more independent, gain hobbies, et cetera. 852 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: I felt completely broken, but he promised me we would 853 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 3: stay friends and still be there for each other. The 854 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 3: breakup was three weeks. He told me he was staying 855 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 3: with one of his friends until I was able to 856 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 3: move out. For the first week, not much changed. We 857 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 3: were still calling each other pet names, saying I love you, 858 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: and being physically affectionate with each other, hugging small kisses. 859 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to break, yeah, but sometimes you 860 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: need a little like you do, ramp it down, out 861 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: of it. 862 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: Oh, that's yeah true. Throughout the second week, things became 863 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: a little more distant. We talked less over the phone, 864 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: and it was incredibly difficult for me to be on 865 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: my own. However, things were different in person. He still 866 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 3: acted like he cared for me and still told me 867 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: he loved me, hugged me, apologized for how hard everything 868 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: has been. This Monday, I found out he's been staying 869 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 3: with another woman rather than one of his friends. 870 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: Is it a woman friend a friend that is a woman. 871 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: That's the question. Is is it a friend that's a 872 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: woman or is it a woman friend? 873 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: I found out because the messages popped up on our 874 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 3: iPad that we share. I know it was an invasion 875 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: of their privacy, but I couldn't help but read everything 876 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 3: before I confronted him. There were messages talking about them 877 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 3: having spicy sleep, messages about how much. They miss each 878 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 3: other all the time, Pictures of things that I gave 879 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: him that he gave to her. What the most devastating 880 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: part was them saying I love you. This is definitely 881 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 3: something that was going on before they broke up. 882 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is this three weeks after three weeks? You 883 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: don't You don't fall in love three weeks. 884 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: After fall in love very quickly. 885 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: Okay, you shouldn't be saying I love you after three 886 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: weeks after you broke up. 887 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm not defending that. I'm not defending You're wrong. 888 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: And how are they saying they miss each other? They 889 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: haven't even had enough time in the relationships. 890 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: You don't even know each other. Yeah, so they're like 891 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 2: living they're living together, didn't know each other's middle names yet? 892 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, for real. 893 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 3: When I confronted him, he explained how terribly he felt 894 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 3: about the way he handled the situation and explained his 895 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: reasons for why he hadn't told me. He swore up 896 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 3: and down that he broke up with me as soon 897 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 3: as he started having feelings for her, and that he 898 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 3: hadn't flirted with her prior whatsoever. 899 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to that is hard to believe. 900 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I begged him for explanation on how he got 901 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 3: all in love with someone if he had only been 902 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 3: talking to her for two weeks. We haven't even started 903 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: to pursue our divorce yet. We've had several long conversations 904 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 3: since then, and it hasn't gotten any easier. 905 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a whole thing. Like they're not 906 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: even divorced yet. 907 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, after everything we went through, my love for him 908 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: runs very deep, and to hear that he was already 909 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: in love with somebody else didn't make any sense to me. Now, 910 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: to finally get to my question, he had me go 911 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 3: to Thanksgiving with them, and we didn't tell his family 912 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: at that point. His birthday is on the ninth, and 913 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: both sets of his grandparents are going to have lunch 914 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 3: with us to celebrate. His mom is coming to stay 915 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: at the house the sixth through the tenth. How should 916 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 3: I handle these next few days? Do I have the 917 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 3: right to tell any of them that he's been staying 918 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: with another woman who he's in love with. I don't 919 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 3: want to lie for him, especially if he goes over 920 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 3: to hang out with her while his mom is here, 921 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: And I don't want to lie to you, So I'm 922 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 3: going to tell you that you should join us live 923 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch. 924 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: Just tap our profile. That's the truth, dang true. 925 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 3: There's a little bit more to the story. 926 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: But what do we think? Do we think? Can we 927 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: do a poll, tell the family or not? I think 928 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: it's not your responsibility to cover it up and lie 929 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: to his family. But I just don't THENK you should 930 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: put yourself in that situation in the first place. Yeah, 931 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: I think I don't think op he should go spend 932 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: time with his family and act like everything's normal when 933 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: it's not, Like, yeah, don't do that to yourself. You 934 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: don't owe anyone anything. 935 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 3: I agree with that. My only thing is that she 936 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 3: seems to be have a very close relationship with them, 937 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 3: having lost her mom and seemingly like she doesn't have 938 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: any family besides them, So I also understand that is 939 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 3: kind of difficult of the point of like don't go 940 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 3: visit them, you know, But yeah, I don't think you 941 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 3: owe them anything. It's really like if they ask you, 942 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: then like, don't live for him. 943 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: And it's also like a conversation you could have with 944 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: you know, your ex and say like, hey, I'm not 945 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: trying to throw you under the bus, but if I'm 946 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: not going to live someone else about something exactly. 947 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 3: But there is a little bit more to this story. 948 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: Read that crap. He doesn't think. 949 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: It's any of his family's business how the relationship started 950 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 3: and says that the only reason I would tell them 951 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 3: is to hurt him. He wants us to simply tell 952 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 3: them that we had issues that we couldn't resolve. I 953 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 3: don't want to hurt him, but I I also don't 954 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 3: want to have to life. I don't feel as though 955 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 3: I owe him that. I just don't want to be 956 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 3: the spiteful person he's making me out to be. How 957 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 3: do I proceed? And there are some comments common. One says, 958 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: you tell the family the truth he doesn't love you 959 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 3: anymore and is having an affair, rather than then divorcing 960 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: you like a decent man. Should you can share your truth? 961 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 3: Why do you want to keep the truth hidden? Your 962 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 3: husband has blamed you for him leaving, and you believe 963 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 3: him he has an a fair Rather, don't take the 964 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 3: blame for him being an ale, stand up for yourself. 965 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 3: You should matter more to you than he should. And 966 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 3: comment two, do not lie to them? To protect his affair. 967 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 3: He is trying to protect her. If his family, who 968 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 3: loves you so much, finds finds out that he cheated 969 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 3: with her, it's going to be harder for him to 970 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: win them over to her side. It's manipulation on his part. 971 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 3: Please don't be his dormat and stop with affection and 972 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 3: pretending like things are fine and comment three. He wants 973 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 3: to hide his affair because he knows his family won't 974 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 3: like it. It's time for him to grow up and 975 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 3: take responsibility for his choices. He chose to cheat, and 976 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 3: he chose to leave for the other woman. Oh, he 977 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 3: can certainly tell his family what he did. In fact, 978 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 3: she could tell them ahead of time that he has 979 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 3: moved out, so she is assumes they will want to 980 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 3: stay with him and his girlfriend toss him straight into 981 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: the fire. Comment four. I believe they should know, but 982 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 3: I also believe you don't have to go and celebrate 983 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 3: with him, which is kind of what you were saying. 984 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: Or are you ready to play happy family for a 985 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 3: few days for his sake? Also, why are you expected 986 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 3: to move out of the home? And that is the 987 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 3: end of that story. I posted on Facebook saying Santa 988 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 3: Claus wasn't real. My sister's furious. I can't believe I 989 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: even need to post this, but here we go. I 990 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 3: posted the Ryan Reynolds Deadpool meme where he tells kids 991 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 3: about Spicy Sleep and says how Santa isn't real. What 992 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 3: my niece, who just turned thirteen, has a Facebook account 993 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 3: that is about a week old. I honestly forgot I 994 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 3: even had her as a friend. By the way, this 995 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 3: comes from GFJQ twenty three on the Okay Storytime subburdate. 996 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 3: So my sister called me furious. Apparently she had to 997 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 3: come clean to both my nieces. The other one is eleven, 998 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 3: and now they're so upset they couldn't go to school today. 999 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 3: I thought she had told them years ago about Santa, 1000 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 3: but I still felt bad and apologized. She says that 1001 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: it's not good enough, and that I need to publicly 1002 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 3: say how Santa is real and provide proof to my 1003 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 3: nieces how I believe Santa is real. 1004 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: I refuse. 1005 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 3: I think they are far too old to be believing 1006 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 3: in Santa. Still, my mother and father sided with my sister, 1007 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 3: saying I shouldn't ruin my niece's Christmas. 1008 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: It's March bro she wants you to go online and 1009 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: post how Santa. 1010 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 3: Is real, and she's gonna put oh pie's posting an apology. 1011 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 3: She's like, it's like a YouTube apology video. I'm sorry. 1012 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 3: My mother and father sided with my sister, saying I 1013 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 3: shouldn't ruin my niece's Christmas it's March and take away 1014 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 3: their childhood prematurely. I feel like I'm in crazy town. 1015 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 3: I just sent an email saying I'm sorry the incident 1016 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: happened and that my nieces are hurting, but that I'm 1017 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 3: not going to pretend Santa exists because I feel that 1018 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 3: is an unreasonable request. My parents have said that they 1019 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 3: are disappointed with me and my oh and my sister 1020 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: said until I agreed to lie about Sanna that she's 1021 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 3: going no contact. 1022 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh what am I wrong? 1023 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 3: That thirteen and eleven is a fine age to stop 1024 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 3: believing in Santa. I get that they're all upset, but 1025 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 3: isn't this an inevitable part of growing up? Usually my 1026 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 3: family is reasonable, so I'm a bit shocked about this all. Honestly, 1027 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 3: my sister and her family aren't even Christian. Yes, I 1028 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 3: know Santa isn't a Christian thing, but Christmas is a 1029 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 3: Christian holiday. We never really made a big deal of 1030 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: Christmas beyond eating good food and opening a few gifts, 1031 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 3: and there isn't at it. I think your family is 1032 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 3: being unreasonable. I think that's kind of silly, Like, how 1033 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: are they going to protect their kids from the entire internet? 1034 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure there was there were gonna be tons of 1035 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 3: posts like if they were on it around Christmas, tons 1036 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 3: of post about it. 1037 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: And again, they let me on the internet, they. 1038 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 3: Let Alex on the internet, watch out. 1039 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: On the internet. And you're gonna get mad at your 1040 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: sister for yeah, adding to posting a meme. If you 1041 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: want to protect your kids and that's. 1042 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 3: Your decision, free access to the internet. 1043 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you did a bad job of protecting your kids 1044 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: in the ways that you want to. That's the reason 1045 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: they found out about the post, not because OPI made 1046 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: the post, because you let them on the internet. 1047 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. I called my sister out on this whole BS 1048 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 3: situation and for making up lies to try and. 1049 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: Make me feel bad. 1050 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 3: Oh, she called my parents crying. So my parents told 1051 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 3: me their standard line of having me be the bigger 1052 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 3: person and patch things up. Why has OP got to 1053 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 3: be the per person? 1054 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: Because that's the standard line. Not this time. 1055 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 3: I told them to quit sticking their nose into an 1056 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 3: argument that has nothing to do with them. But honestly, 1057 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 3: I'm so pissed off they can all f off for 1058 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 3: a while. I'm not responding to anyone unless I get 1059 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 3: an apology and edit number two. 1060 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: Crazy tone sister. 1061 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 3: Says, I can't believe you responded to Nicie after I 1062 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 3: told you not to talk to her. 1063 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: It's disrespectful to me. 1064 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: Op you mean you're just upset you got caught in 1065 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 3: a lie, Sister. 1066 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't a lie. It was a justified exaggeration to 1067 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: prove what me? 1068 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 3: What effing point, sister? That your words and actions on 1069 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 3: Facebook a consequences. 1070 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: And it's it's your responsibility to lay down the consequences. Me. 1071 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 3: Let me get this straight. You won't let me talk 1072 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 3: to my nieces because I posted a meme about Santa 1073 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 3: not existing, even though they don't believe in Santa anymore? 1074 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: Sister, what if they were younger? Me? 1075 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 3: They aren't? What the f kind of logic is that, Sister? 1076 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: I can't talk to you when you're being unreasonable and 1077 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 3: refuse to see the point me. Okay, good luck with 1078 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 3: that when you're ready to apologize, you can send me 1079 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: a message. Sister, What the F do I have to 1080 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 3: apologize for? Don't even know why you're upset when I'm 1081 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 3: the only one with the right to be upset. 1082 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: Here me figure it out. 1083 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 2: Oh that's actually really funny, dude. 1084 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: Is op like normally like this or she like finally 1085 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: taking a scandal taking anyone's crap? 1086 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 3: No more, I'm freaking done. Edit number three. You know 1087 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 3: this isn't no normal behavior for my sister. I reached 1088 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 3: out to my brother in law and he says he's 1089 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 3: been concerned the past few days. It's been like a 1090 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 3: switch was flipped and she started acting nuts. He's going 1091 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 3: to make her an appointment with their doctors. 1092 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh, it might just be stressed. 1093 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 3: But never hurts to check it out. And some relevant comments. 1094 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 3: Lonnie Lee three says your sister is having difficulty with 1095 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 3: her daughters growing up. If the kids really started believing 1096 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 3: in Santa, then she had been keeping them ignorant slash 1097 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 3: innocent to a degree that borders on abusive. Do the 1098 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 3: girls know the Easter Bunny and the tooth Fairy aren't 1099 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 3: real either? Your parents are enabling your sister's weirdness. I 1100 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 3: guess you could post that, yes, Virginia, there is a 1101 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 3: Santa Paus letter, but I surely wouldn't do anything more 1102 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 3: than that. Your sister should be more worried about the 1103 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 3: thirteen year old finding a baby in the cabbage patch 1104 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 3: than leaving milk and cookies for a man in a 1105 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 3: red suit roast. The weird thing is my sister is 1106 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 3: a very spicy sleep positive parent. My nieces know all 1107 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 3: about spicy sleep, birth control and stuff like that. 1108 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up. 1109 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, spicy sleep is okay when they're ready for it. 1110 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 3: But Santa Claus not being real is a horrible thing. Right, 1111 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 3: and there is an updates. 1112 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 1: Okay, before the update, there is for sure something. 1113 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: There's something going on, especially because they said the brother 1114 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 3: in law even was like, I don't know, I don't know. 1115 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 1: Something's really weird. Yeah. Yeah, for most things, there's usually 1116 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: something going on. This thing seems like there's something big 1117 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: going on. We don't know it. She's not sharing it, 1118 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: but something's going on in the shadows. 1119 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 3: To summarize the last post, I posted a Ryan Reynolds 1120 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 3: meme about Santa Claus not being real on Facebook, which 1121 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 3: my thirteen year old niece. 1122 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: Saw how dare you? How dare you? 1123 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 3: My sister flipped out about it and wanted me to 1124 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 3: publicly rescind and say how Santa is real. But I 1125 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: thought my nieces were too old to believe in that 1126 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 3: stuff and refused. It led to a crazy fight between us. Anyway, 1127 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 3: I talked to my nieces and neither of them believe 1128 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 3: in Santa, so they were baffled about the fight. I 1129 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 3: talked to my brother in law and he said, myself 1130 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 3: has been flying off the handle lately. We agreed she 1131 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 3: should probably get a check up, and he convinced her 1132 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 3: to go to the doctor. On to the update. They 1133 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 3: did an MRI and nothing showed up. Then they did 1134 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 3: some blood work, which looked fine except some elevated cholesterol. 1135 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 3: She isn't pregnant. They pretty much wrote her off as 1136 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 3: a crazy person and sent her to a psychologist for stress. 1137 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 3: After a session, the psychologist told her to do some 1138 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 3: deep breathing and sent her away as fixed. 1139 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm annoyed. I'm mad. 1140 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 3: I'm annoyed because this is freaking doctors not believing that 1141 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 3: there's something wrong with women and just assuming that it's like, oh, 1142 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 3: that being crazy and not actually digging deeper the idea. 1143 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, just therapists that have no idea what it 1144 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: means to support someone emotionally and just say, oh, just 1145 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: give it little, a little tip out. Like my whole 1146 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 1: childhood was going to therapists because of a severe OCD 1147 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: and them giving me little tips and not knowing how 1148 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: to support someone. Yeah, that needs to learn how to 1149 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: build relationship, a healthy relationship with themselves. Yeah, And so 1150 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm pissed off when therapists do that. And then also, 1151 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: my first thought wouldn't be like something physically is wrong 1152 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: with her. I would say, well, yeah, it's possible. My 1153 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: first thought is usually like some emotional trigger is going off, 1154 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: and I would my thought would be to take her 1155 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: to a therapist to explore whatever emotional dynamics going on. 1156 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,479 Speaker 3: She got worse. She stopped sleeping and barely ate, yet 1157 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 3: still gain weight. Any small annoyance would send her into 1158 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 3: a rage. Commercials were making her so upset she would 1159 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 3: ugly cry. I asked my brother in law if they 1160 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 3: tested hormone levels or anything like that, and he said 1161 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 3: the doctors didn't feel it was necessary. I hate these 1162 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 3: freaking doctors. This comes back, like, I hate this when 1163 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 3: people don't the doctors don't believe women when they're like, hey, 1164 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 3: something's going wrong. I don't know what's like why I'm 1165 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 3: feeling this way, and they're like, oh, it's it's probably 1166 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 3: your like on your period. She called me one day, 1167 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: crying and apologizing, saying she was the worst sister ever 1168 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 3: and I had every right to hate her. She was 1169 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 3: so devastated she ruined our relationship and such it was 1170 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 3: weird and not my sister. So when I got a 1171 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 3: chance to speak, I told her she was going to 1172 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 3: see my doctor, and I wasn't taking no for an answer. 1173 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 3: I set up an appointment, and my doctor ordered a 1174 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 3: full blood panel including hormone and vitamins before my sister 1175 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 3: drove to town for her appointment. When my sister drove up, 1176 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 3: we spent the morning shopping and she was unpredictable. One 1177 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 3: minute she was happy and the next yelling about some 1178 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 3: perceived slight That effing pretentious makeup counter Bee just looked 1179 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 3: at me funny for my cheap store makeup. Was uncomfortable, 1180 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 3: so I just walked on eggshells to keep her from exploding. Anyway, 1181 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 3: results of the blood work and a good doctor paramenopause, 1182 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 3: and then you have it. She just needed a freaking 1183 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 3: good doctor to actually give her a diagnosis instead of 1184 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 3: saying that she was romonal. Her hormones are completely abnormal. 1185 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 3: None of her doctors would even consider it because she 1186 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 3: was too young for menopause, so they didn't even bother 1187 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 3: running the tests. 1188 00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: Uh so frustrated. 1189 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 3: Ah, She'll be coming up with a care plan with 1190 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 3: my doctor for hormone replacement therapy and diet change to 1191 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 3: hopefully get back on track. She's still a nutcase right now. 1192 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 3: For example, she'll call me crying the other night because 1193 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 3: she will never have more kids what her husband had 1194 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 3: of the second meet years ago. I'm driving to her 1195 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 3: place next weekend and we're going to batch cook a 1196 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 3: bunch of meals for her new diet plan. I'll be 1197 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 3: doing it with her as I could stand to eat healthier, 1198 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 3: so it'll be a slow process, but we have a 1199 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 3: diagnosis and a plan. I'm taking her appers as crazy 1200 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 3: hormones right now because it'll take a while to even out, 1201 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 3: but you know it doesn't take a while. Joining us 1202 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 3: live every weekday three PMPSD on YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok. 1203 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 3: We're probably live right now, go check it out. 1204 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: Probably I'm live. 1205 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 3: I got her a dark chocolate cake for Easter that said, 1206 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 3: happy reverse Easter when the Easter Buddy. 1207 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: Takes back your eggs. 1208 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 3: That's so funny because I'm kind of a She thought 1209 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm hilarious though, so we're good, and edit moved the 1210 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 3: comment about being bipolar, though my sister in law has 1211 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: professionally diagnosed by polarism and does have wildly swinging moods 1212 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 3: within minutes sometimes, though usually a manic high or low 1213 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 3: last week's. It wasn't my intention to slur a group 1214 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 3: of people. My sister was acting very much like my 1215 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 3: sister in law can act sometimes, so it was the 1216 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 3: best reference I could make. I apologize for fending anyone. 1217 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,800 Speaker 3: This is the best thing ever. So glad you figured 1218 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 3: it out. Good for you for realizing she was totally 1219 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 3: out of whack and helping her get back on track. 1220 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 3: Good luck. I mean, yeah, if you had listened to 1221 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 3: your parents, she would have gone on being not well. 1222 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and not kind of support and helpe she needed, Opie. 1223 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 3: Says, well, like I said, it wasn't abnormal for teenage sister. 1224 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 3: She was a huge drama queen back then it was 1225 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 3: abnormal for thirty six year old sister. I guess she's 1226 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 3: sensitive to hormone fluctuations. 1227 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: That is the end of that story, Sam here og host. 1228 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: We're going to get back to these stories. But here's 1229 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: three minutes fads from our sponsors. First, my brothers stall 1230 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: our robot mop, so we changed the locks on him. 1231 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: My brother, Chris, twenty seven year old male fake name, 1232 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: moved in with my boyfriend twenty eight year old male, 1233 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: and I, twenty six year old females seven years ago. 1234 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: We took pity on him after he was kicked out 1235 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: of my childhood home for substance use and was sleeping 1236 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 1: in his car. By the way, this comes from you, 1237 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,280 Speaker 1: Dwight troop beats on the roka start, so the storytime 1238 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: subread it. So at first Chris and my boyfriend got 1239 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 1: along great. After a few years of living together, Chris 1240 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 1: became more reclusive and distant from us. Both chores were 1241 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: not being done around the house, and I was getting 1242 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: sick of cleaning up after him and his negative attitude. 1243 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: Six months prior to the end of our lease, I 1244 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: told Chris that he had defined another living situation. He 1245 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: did finally move out a few weeks prior to the 1246 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,760 Speaker 1: end of our lease, and I thought we all agreed 1247 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: about splitting up shared appliances and valuables. One thing we 1248 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: did not discuss was our shared robot mopping device. One 1249 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: thing we did not discuss was our shared robot mope 1250 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: mopping device. We acquired this one day at my grandmother's 1251 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: a few years ago. She was moving and offered it 1252 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: to all three of us as she would not be 1253 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: using it, so we brought that little robot home. This 1254 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: ling is nothing fancy, just a small device you feel 1255 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: with cleaning solution and attached disposable mop pads. Let me 1256 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: be clear, in the four years we've had this thing, 1257 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: Chris has not once paid for any replacement mopping pads. 1258 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: Never had ever turned the thing on. It was always 1259 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: boyfriend or I splitting the costs of pads and setting 1260 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: this thing up to run nightly so we'd all wake 1261 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: up to clean floors downstairs. Chris hasn't to return his 1262 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,439 Speaker 1: key because he's still slowly moving out. It's been over 1263 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: a month now. He always showed up unannounced to our 1264 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 1: home to gather boxes and his belongings. Sometimes he wouldn't 1265 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: even realize he was there while we had been out. 1266 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: Last night boyfriend was looking for our little shit. That's 1267 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: why it's been taking so long. He's a beef. Last 1268 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: night boyfriend was looking for our little robot friend as 1269 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: we had just got to new had deliver delivered for it. 1270 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: Turns out, after going crazy looking for his thing. In 1271 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: texting Chris, he did take it, claiming, yeah, this was 1272 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: the last straw. We had been so accommodating to this 1273 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: man for years. I just can't believe Chris had the 1274 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: addacity to take our beloved robot clinging friend without a word. 1275 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: That's a kidnapping right there. Yeah. I have let Chris 1276 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: know that we are no longer comfortable with him coming 1277 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: by unannounced, and if he needs anything, we will look 1278 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: for it ourselves. I also said he could return his 1279 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: keys to the office and we will pick it up. 1280 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: His response, it's about to get dirty. It's about to 1281 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: get real. 1282 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: The mop's not here. 1283 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: Stop being weird. I don't want any of your trash crap. 1284 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: Already had all of my useful grow equipment stolen. Anyways, 1285 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: stop texting me before you make me mad. The grol 1286 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,959 Speaker 1: stuff referred to here is indoor Greenhouse and Hydroponics, which 1287 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: was verbally agreed for an even split of material since 1288 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: both Chris and boyfriend acquired the equipment together, so he 1289 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: already supposedly he already that Yeah, we split weird. So 1290 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: Boyfriend ordered a camera that will be here tomorrow. I've 1291 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: contacted the leasing office to make them aware of the 1292 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: animosity between us and requested the locks to be changed. 1293 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: I just want to know. Am I going too far? 1294 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: This robot is not at all expensive, but it's more 1295 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: about the principle to me, I feel disrespected. We all 1296 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: have to see each other next week for Thanksgiving, and 1297 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: I know it will be awkward. Some of Op's comments commenter, 1298 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: not the a hole, Your freeloading brother took the final 1299 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: step over the line. WHOA came in hot Ope. I 1300 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: appreciate your reply, thanks for taking them down to read. 1301 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: I agree he's a free loader and an arrogant one 1302 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: at the living situation. He's officially moved out more than 1303 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: a month ago now and has his own new residence. Also, 1304 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,919 Speaker 1: we have only been staying at this townhouse for one 1305 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: year and a month. We had all moved out together 1306 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: from our previous living situation. The robo We absolutely loved 1307 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: this robot. One of my boyfriend and my favorite pastime 1308 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: was to get stoned and watch this little guy go 1309 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: back and forth cleaning our floors. So there is an 1310 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: emotional behind there is. I almost feel like this was 1311 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: intentionally taken from us to prevent enjoyment and as an 1312 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: intentional inconvenience. Commenter, you took in a substance, user, What 1313 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: did you expect? Oop? I thought I had almost lost 1314 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: my brother, though that had probably clouded my judgment. It 1315 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: was an unintentional overuse from a laced substance. Was supposed 1316 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: to just be psilocybin. That's what I was told. Did 1317 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: he tell you? Hey told me the story being kicked out, 1318 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: but it was corroborated by my mom and siblings. It 1319 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: does seem like he didn't realize what the substance actually was. 1320 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: But I guess I'll play stupid games. But I guess 1321 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: play stupid games, win stupid prizes fits commenter. Has he 1322 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: ever taken any responsibility for what got him kicked out? 1323 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Or was it never his fault? What kind of housemate 1324 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: was he? Boyfriend was very patient because that's a lot 1325 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: of drama no one needs. Have you apologized the boyfriend 1326 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 1: for disrespecting his home. Ope. The main reason we wanted 1327 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: him to move out was space for boyfriend and I 1328 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: as a couple. We're planning an engagement soon. We want 1329 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: to move on with our lives. It was quite weird 1330 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: to live with, especially towards the end. Did it clean 1331 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: up the mess on the stove or coffee area after himself? 1332 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he took out the trash once and 1333 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: I had to ask, So there was some communication around, lie, 1334 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,959 Speaker 1: we need you to do something, and he still wasn't 1335 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: doing it. I've apologized to my boyfriend for letting this 1336 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: go on for so long, but I should really put 1337 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: a note on something together for him. Thanks. Also, it 1338 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: was a mutual decision. Hm, I see what you actually 1339 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: mean by getting kicked out. And yes, he fully admitted 1340 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: that he was at fault for the substances. As far 1341 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: as I know, he doesn't do hard substances, only legal 1342 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Mary Jay and psychedelics. Your brother in a hall who 1343 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: seems to have some entitlement and anger management issues. I 1344 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: go no contact with him asap. Oh Op. We were 1345 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: low contact as it was a while living together. We 1346 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: hardly spoke at all and he would walk in and 1347 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: ignore us, no hello or goodbye commentary. Please tell me 1348 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: you charged him some sort of rent? Oh op? Oh yes. 1349 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Originally we all stayed in boyfriends childhood home and we 1350 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: didn't have rent, so he didn't either. But we when 1351 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: we all moved on to rented spaces, he did contribute 1352 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: one third. What does he want with the robot anyways? 1353 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: He only wants the mopping robot now that he has 1354 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: hardwood floors now, But we've always lived in a house 1355 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: where this robot was useful. He just didn't want to 1356 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: contribute to our shared space. He also had the audacity 1357 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: to say his contributions to cleaning the robe the floor 1358 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: was the robot itself that was given to us and 1359 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: we did not pay for He did not pay for it. Update. 1360 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I decided to reach out to my brother and ask 1361 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: him nicely to bring our robot to Thanksgiving so we 1362 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: could bring him back home. Here's the messages so far. Me. 1363 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: I've got some time to think about this and got 1364 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: to some different perspectives. I don't believe the robot belongs 1365 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,439 Speaker 1: to you. I really appreciate it if you could bring 1366 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 1: it with you to Thanksgiving so we could bring it 1367 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 1: back home. I feel as though we've been very accommodating 1368 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 1: to you over the years you've lived with us, and 1369 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: taking a shared applying to that any discussion is not 1370 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: only disrespectful but shows your lack of consideration for us. 1371 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: So we'd like our robot back, since really he is 1372 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: ours after years of using and up keeping without any 1373 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: help from you. Chris, I've gotten some time to think 1374 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: about and I want the I want the TV from 1375 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Grandma's as well, So go ahead and bring it over 1376 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 1: when you get a chance. 1377 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 3: This is a ransom, I don't think so. 1378 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I think he's just like I think it's more like 1379 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: a costant situation. I think it's more like an fu 1380 01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: give me the TV and I'm gonna keep the robot. 1381 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: That's how I. 1382 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Oh, he's not even gonna get it back. 1383 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 1: What do you think, Kian, Oh, it's not as robot. 1384 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 2: I mean he's like, no, no, no. 1385 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: What do you think means bad? Oh? 1386 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 3: Oh? 1387 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's a hostage situation. You think he's saying, yeah, 1388 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 2: give me the ransom money, give me the ransom for 1389 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 2: Grandma's TV, and no one gets hurt. 1390 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: Op responded in text. TV was also given to us specifically. 1391 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why you think that's yours as well, 1392 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: question mark, Chris, everything was given to you, apparently. She 1393 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: asked me if I wanted the robot while I was 1394 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 1: in the kitchen, and I said, yes, that's how it went, 1395 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: end of story. I don't give two craps what you 1396 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: think is yours or not. If I let you borrow 1397 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: something because I'm not using it, it doesn't make it yours. Okay. 1398 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: So so brothers come in with a new story. Here 1399 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: he got he's got new facts, new facts, but we 1400 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: don't know if they're facts, says as I remember it. 1401 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: We were all there at the time she offered, and 1402 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: I even tried to dec since it's still useful, but 1403 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: she insisted it was given to all of us as 1404 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: a shared household. If you think it was yours, you 1405 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: should have had discussions with us first before taking it 1406 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: while we were out. Chris, you remember wrong, and I 1407 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: don't need to have a discussion about my own things. 1408 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 1: Not to mention boyfriend moving shady taking crap out of 1409 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: the tent while I was gone, thinking I wouldn't notice. Lol, 1410 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: How is that any different? I didn't bring it up 1411 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: because I'm a bigger person. I don't really care anymore. 1412 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I want to put this terrible part of my life 1413 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: behind me, and if you don't leave it be, I'm 1414 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: going to leave you behind as well. Escalating it the 1415 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: most important thing. The robot question we have, question I 1416 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 1: have is he just escalating out of the blue and 1417 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: this is like totally ridiculous? Or is there some things 1418 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: we don't know about op mistreating the brother? 1419 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 3: Mmmmm, there's always two sad the story. 1420 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Always two sides. We don't know the other side of 1421 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: this story. He said, this was I want to leave 1422 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: this terrible part of my life behind Why is it terrible? 1423 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Is he making it up? Or maybe he was mistreated? 1424 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 1: Maybe we don't know me. You and boyfriend had a 1425 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 1: discussion about splitting up the gross stuff, which he thought 1426 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: went amicably. You aren't very being very mature, and I 1427 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: don't want someone that can can't have a simple conversation 1428 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: about shared items in my life anyways. Woo, So I 1429 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: guess that's it looks like we will not be getting 1430 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: our little friend back. You're gonna be okay? 1431 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 3: No. 1432 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: Thank you all for your support and interacting with this post. 1433 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 1: This was my second post ever and to see it blow. 1434 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: It was a crazy feeling. No, you're telling me we 1435 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: went through that whole story. You don't even get your 1436 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: child back two hours later, actually after the convo boyfriend 1437 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: just had with him. We might be seeing our friend 1438 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 1: again soon. Look out next Thursday for an update Update 1439 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 1: number two boo hello again. I just wanted to start 1440 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: by saying thank you for all your judgments on my 1441 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: last post. I read every comment and gave each perspective 1442 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: some thoughts. Ultimately, you guys helped me gain the confidence 1443 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 1: to stand up for myself and ask for our robot back. 1444 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: But I included my text conversation with my brother Chris 1445 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: in the comments to my last post to summarize. I 1446 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: asked as politely as I could for our mopping robot back, 1447 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: as well as stated the reasons why it belonged to us. 1448 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Chris refused to see reason and pretty much said he 1449 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 1: would be cutting me out of his life if I 1450 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: keep bringing this up. My wonderful boyfriend couldn't sit back 1451 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: and let him be disrespectful to us anymore. He had 1452 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: his own conversation with Chris, which for privacy reasons cannot 1453 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: be shared. Dang was this through text over. 1454 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 3: These in combat. 1455 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: I think it was over text. Boyfriend ended up taking 1456 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: some of your guys' device and threatened. Boyfriend ended up 1457 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 1: taking some of your guys' advice and threatened to reveal 1458 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: specific information to our family if our robot was not 1459 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 1: returned on Thanksgiving. This was last Thursday, so I had 1460 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 1: one week to make a decision. After a quiet week, 1461 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 1: I was preparing myself to drop a gosh darn bomb 1462 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: on family dinner. But then I went out to start 1463 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 1: warming up my car Wednesday night and there was a 1464 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: bush my front. Oh my god. I didn't order anything, 1465 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,839 Speaker 1: and as I picked up the bucks noticed it wasn't sealed. 1466 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Oh and if you want to seal your lips and 1467 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: not share award, join us live on YouTube and Facebook 1468 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: every weekday at three. We're probably live right now. 1469 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 2: Chat threats. Did you just threaten everyone? 1470 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: I guess Chris decided that a mopping robot was not 1471 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 1: worth ruining his reputation with our family. He will not 1472 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: be bothering us anymore, and we will be low slash 1473 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 1: no contact from now on. Dang you like, are you 1474 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: happy with that? 1475 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,719 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like she's Honestly, I can't imagine 1476 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 3: the relationship was that strong before this, you know, like. 1477 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: This, it sposed to have been just like a like 1478 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,639 Speaker 1: just a final yeah situation. Positive from all this drama, 1479 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 1: boyfriend and I are utilizing our new home monitoring cameras 1480 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 1: to watch our pets, our dogs and cats activities while 1481 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: home alone are so entertaining. It brought us a lot 1482 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: of joy to check in on them. Family photo will 1483 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: be posted in comments of pets and robot. Image description 1484 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: Opie's tupups the cat and the robot. Now it's done. 1485 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 3: My sister claimed that my friend is her baby daddy. 1486 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 3: I demanded a DNA tests. 1487 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:31,759 Speaker 1: That's the truth. 1488 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 3: I Michael Mailed twenty eight and my sister Chloe twenty 1489 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 3: six have always had a difficult relationship. When my mother 1490 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 3: was pregnant with my sister, there were some complications and 1491 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 3: she only had about a five percent chance of being 1492 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 3: born healthy. She was born healthy and had no health issues. 1493 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Long Game twenty ten 1494 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 3: on the Okay Storytime Supparate it. Due to this, my 1495 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 3: mother and father have always favored her over me. Examples 1496 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 3: include buying her presents on my my birthday. But like so, 1497 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 3: she doesn't feel left out letting her plan my birthday 1498 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 3: parties and inviting her friends. This has gone on my 1499 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 3: whole life. Chloe wants something equals she gets it, whether 1500 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 3: it's right then, right there, or over time nagging until 1501 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,599 Speaker 3: she gets it. We grew up fairly poor and struggled 1502 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 3: for money, but my parents would take out loans for 1503 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 3: her birthdays to get her the best new phones, laptops, 1504 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 3: you name it. I, on the other hand, would get 1505 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 3: essentials like socks. 1506 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,519 Speaker 1: Did we take out loans for birthday presents. 1507 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 3: When I was due to go to college, I had 1508 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,839 Speaker 3: to work my butt off and put myself through college. 1509 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 3: When it was her time, I found out my parents 1510 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 3: had set up a savings account and put money in 1511 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 3: it every paycheck to save her to save for her fees, 1512 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 3: meaning she had almost no student fees. When I was 1513 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 3: at college, I met my best friend Adam and we 1514 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 3: bonded very quickly through Whilst at college, he met Taylor. 1515 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,799 Speaker 3: After about two years of dating, Adam and Taylor married. 1516 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 3: My sister threw a tan about not being invited at 1517 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 3: the time and felt entitled about coming as I was 1518 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 3: going and was the best man. Adam did end up 1519 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,759 Speaker 3: giving in and inviting her just to keep the peace. 1520 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,759 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, Taylor passed away in a car crash. 1521 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 3: She was also pregnant at the time, so it was 1522 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 3: a huge blow for Adam. 1523 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: Tragedy. 1524 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 3: His whole future was wiped out in one evening. 1525 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 1526 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 3: I was there for Adam and helped him arrange for 1527 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 3: the funerals. Throughout this whole time, Chloe wanted to be involved, 1528 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 3: but thankfully she wasn't, otherwise their funerals would have been 1529 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 3: the Chloe Show. In early twenty twenty one, Chloe called 1530 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 3: me and asked to meet me at our parents' house. 1531 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 3: I went and they were all sat down in the 1532 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 3: living room. This is when Chloe told me that she 1533 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 3: was six months pregnant and that Adam was the father. 1534 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:51,600 Speaker 3: Oh dang, Obviously I was shocked. I didn't even know 1535 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 3: Adam liked her in that way. This is where things 1536 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 3: get complicated. Adam and Chloe had a one night stand 1537 01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 3: and she felt pregnant. When she told Adam of it, 1538 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 3: he said that he didn't want to be involved in 1539 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 3: the baby's life and that sleeping with her was a 1540 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 3: huge mistake. He needed to focus on getting in a 1541 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 3: better state mentally, and this wouldn't be fair on a baby. 1542 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 3: Adam was wanting to be reunited with Taylor. Chloe said 1543 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 3: she understood and wouldn't pressure him at all, but she 1544 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 3: wanted to keep the baby throughout her whole pregnancy. Adam 1545 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 3: worked on himself and always made it clear to her 1546 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 3: that he didn't want to be part of her or 1547 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 3: the baby's life. When the baby was born, Chloe named 1548 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 3: the baby Angelica Rose. This was the exact same as 1549 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 3: Adam and Taylor's baby, and she knew this. That's disgusting, 1550 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 3: That is despicable. She also sent him a picture of 1551 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,799 Speaker 3: Angelica which read, God brought me back to you, daddy. 1552 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 3: Adam flipped. I think it was an even bigger reminder 1553 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,720 Speaker 3: to him of everything he'd lost since giving birth. My 1554 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,680 Speaker 3: sister has been slandering at him all of our social media, 1555 01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 3: calling him a deadbeat dad, etc. And bad mouthing every 1556 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,479 Speaker 3: chance she gets. My opinion on this, albeit unpopular at 1557 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 3: it as it is that he isn't a deadbeat dad 1558 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 3: because he simply isn't a dad, not to Chloe's baby anyway. 1559 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 3: I truly believe that Chloe made the decision to carry 1560 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 3: on with her pregnancy under the full knowledge she'd be 1561 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 3: doing it alone. 1562 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 1: He told her. 1563 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 3: I told her from the start. I mean, as long 1564 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 3: as he's playing child. 1565 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 1: Support, Yeah, he told her from the very beginning, I'm 1566 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 1: not going to be that role. 1567 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 3: I see it as she tried to force him into 1568 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 3: having this baby and being a father. Now, imagine if 1569 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 3: the roles were reversed. If a man got a woman 1570 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 3: pregnant and refused any of her please of not wanting 1571 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 3: the baby, people would call that man a monster and 1572 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 3: the woman a victim. But when it comes to a 1573 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 3: woman forcing a man into becoming a father, he's a deadbeat. 1574 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 3: Last weekend, myself, Chloe and Angelica Rose were at her 1575 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 3: parents for my mother's birthday, and Chloe went on her 1576 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 3: usual rant about Adam and my parents started to join 1577 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 3: in too. Now I just lost it and told them 1578 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,600 Speaker 3: all exactly how I see it, that Chloe tried to 1579 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 3: baby trap Adham and it backfired. But he was honest 1580 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 3: with her about why he didn't want to be involved, 1581 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 3: and that when Chloe named her baby what she did, 1582 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 3: that this was really a kick in the teeth for 1583 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 3: Adam and one of the cruelest things I have ever 1584 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 3: seen anyone do. Of course, like everything with my parents 1585 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 3: and Chloe. They sided with her and told me I 1586 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 3: was out of order for saying my beliefs to Chloe 1587 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 3: and I was kicked out of the house. 1588 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 1: WHOA your family is whack? Yeah, they're pretty delusional about 1589 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 1: this Chloe yeah golden child thing. 1590 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 3: Chloe has now also blocked me on everything, and I 1591 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 3: have been told that she has told my niece, whom 1592 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,760 Speaker 3: I love and I've looked after every single Wednesday and 1593 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 3: Thursday since she was born, that I am passed away. 1594 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 3: I honestly don't know how I can fix this, and 1595 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 3: even if I want to, I am thinking. I am 1596 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 3: thinking about phoning CPS on her, but don't know if 1597 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 3: I can or they wouldn't care. I can't stand the 1598 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 3: thought of my niece thinking I was passed away as 1599 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 3: we were very close. Wait, she actually. 1600 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,440 Speaker 1: Thinks you're full gone. 1601 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 3: I think if I apologize, she might let me see 1602 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,759 Speaker 3: Angelica Rose again. But I don't know if I should 1603 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 3: apologize for just being honest with Chloe that she chose 1604 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 3: this life for herself and now needs to deal with it. 1605 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 3: But am I the a hole or should I have 1606 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 3: just kept my mouth shut? And there is an update 1607 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 3: so this blew up a lot more than expected. Some 1608 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 3: people on here have mentioned document and everything, so that's 1609 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 3: exactly what I'm gonna do. I've started so far with 1610 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,680 Speaker 3: asking a mutual friend to screenshot everything my sister has 1611 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,719 Speaker 3: shared on her Facebook re me and I put every 1612 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 3: photo I've ever taken of me an Angelical Rose in 1613 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,799 Speaker 3: a folder, and I will be making physical copies of everything. 1614 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 3: I also messaged my parents yesterday asking if I could 1615 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 3: come over and speak with them. They have said yes, 1616 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,120 Speaker 3: and I will be going round at the weekend. I 1617 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 3: am also going to be recording this conversation and talking 1618 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 3: about Angelica Rose to them, and I'm also considering laying 1619 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 3: everything out on the table about how they've made me 1620 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 3: feel my whole life. After that, I'm going no contact 1621 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 3: with them both if it goes the way I think 1622 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 3: it does. In terms of Adam and Ada, I don't 1623 01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 3: think one was ever done. He never contested being the father, 1624 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 3: as he never intended to be round for the baby anyway. 1625 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 3: Although he isn't physically a presence in the Angelica's life, 1626 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 3: he does support my sister financially, which is what he 1627 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,639 Speaker 3: said he'd always do. I have a lot of Angelica 1628 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 3: stuff at my house given that she used to be 1629 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 3: here two days a week. So I'm gonna speak with 1630 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 3: Adam about doing a DNA test to see if he 1631 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 3: really is hurt biodad. Both me and Adam worked for 1632 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,879 Speaker 3: the same company and both have put in a transfer request, 1633 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 3: mine to get away from my family, and his was 1634 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,879 Speaker 3: so he could have a fresh start somewhere new. Hopefully 1635 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 3: both get approved and we will be moving. 1636 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:39,679 Speaker 1: To a new state, new beginning. 1637 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 3: And there is another update. But I think the I 1638 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,639 Speaker 3: mean on Adam's and a DNA test. 1639 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Would be smart. 1640 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, especially if he's financially supporting. 1641 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that would be smart. And also with 1642 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: like the collecting evidence thing, someone said it's going to 1643 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: escalate from here, and that's fair, But at this point, 1644 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:07,639 Speaker 1: who you collecting evidence from? No one. It's in totally 1645 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,600 Speaker 1: in Opie's sister's choice. If she wants her brother to 1646 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,600 Speaker 1: have a relationship with the daughter, No one or no 1647 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,920 Speaker 1: agency could force her. Yeah, to allow the brother to 1648 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,360 Speaker 1: see the child. He doesn't have ownership or possession over 1649 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:26,759 Speaker 1: the child. 1650 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 3: I met my parents after my first update, and it 1651 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 3: went exactly how I thought. They told me that I 1652 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 3: shouldn't have told Chloe how I felt, and worse, they 1653 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,760 Speaker 3: don't think she's done anything wrong, even though I have 1654 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,800 Speaker 3: given them all the context of how Chloe got Angelica's name. 1655 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 3: They both said that they didn't know. 1656 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,439 Speaker 1: I know that they did, but whatever, and then they 1657 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 1: know now. 1658 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 3: So I then blew up and completely opened up about 1659 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 3: how they made me feel my whole life. And then 1660 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,640 Speaker 3: this was followed by the classic I guess I'm just 1661 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 3: a terrible mother, to which I told my mom, yes 1662 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 3: you are. I will be going no contact with all 1663 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 3: of them from now on, and I can honestly say 1664 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,639 Speaker 3: I feel a lot better not having any of them 1665 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 3: around anymore. I showed Adam all of the comments on this, 1666 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 3: and he has agreed that he's okay with doing a 1667 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,680 Speaker 3: secret DNA test to see if Angelica Rose is his. 1668 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 3: But you know it's not a secret. Tell us joining 1669 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 3: us live every weekday at three pm PSD on YouTube, 1670 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 3: Facebook and TikTok. 1671 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:22,839 Speaker 1: Just tap our profile. 1672 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 3: I think you should do a DNA test, but I 1673 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 3: don't know if the secret is the best way to 1674 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 3: do it, especially if you want to do something legally. 1675 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 3: If they found out that they did something, maybe. 1676 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could it could shoot you in the foot 1677 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 1: later on. Also, people are going to be mad at 1678 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 1: me for saying this. 1679 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't even say it, though, you. 1680 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:39,719 Speaker 1: Gotta say. 1681 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 2: Don't. 1682 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 1: It's not me, stop me, No one can. Okay. The 1683 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:54,040 Speaker 1: parents have been awful. Yeah, I want to preface with 1684 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 1: that they have treated the sister as the golden child 1685 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 1: their whole life and then to get her education. To 1686 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 1: pay for her education over OPI is like huge. So 1687 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 1: they have acted terribly. And at the same time, I 1688 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 1: will say, if you are in an argument about something 1689 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 1: that you are triggered about, they are triggered about that 1690 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 1: it's happening right now, and you want to throw in 1691 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: the whole span of your life's relation dynamics with them 1692 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 1: and get upset that they're not going to respond reasonably 1693 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: to it. No crap, Like, no crap, They're not going 1694 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 1: to have the capacity to respond the way you want 1695 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 1: them to, or to take it all in and to 1696 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 1: actually consider your perspective. They never would have. They never 1697 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 1: were going to be able to if you just jumble 1698 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: the up and then your feelings that you've had your 1699 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 1: whole life and have never shared it with them in 1700 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 1: its entirety, if you just jumble it out all at 1701 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 1: them at the same time. Of course, I'm not gonna respond. 1702 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,720 Speaker 3: I really hope she isn't, and to be honest, I 1703 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,599 Speaker 3: am beginning to think she isn't, especially after what Chloe 1704 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 3: has been doing recently. In terms of our jobs, both 1705 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 3: transfers have been agreed. Our bosses know about our situations 1706 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 3: and don't want to risk us leaving the company altogether, 1707 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 3: so we will both be moving to a new state 1708 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 3: in the next few months. So everything is starting to 1709 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 3: look up. 1710 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:20,759 Speaker 1: Let's go, baby. 1711 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 3: I will try to update this again once we get 1712 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 3: the DNA results back or if anything else hits the fan, 1713 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 3: but for now, thank you everyone. I was ninety nine 1714 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 3: percent sure I wasn't in the wrong, but there was 1715 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 3: one percent that kept telling me, and that is the 1716 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 3: end of that story.