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Speaker 1: and welcome in to the Final Drive as always, joined

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Speaker 1: by Haley Elwood and Eric Smith. Chargers lose thirty seven

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Speaker 1: to twenty three to the Seattle Seahawks and SOFI Stadium

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. They dropped to four and three. It was

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Speaker 1: a concerning loss on a number of levels. I think,

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Speaker 1: chief among them just the injuries keep piling up. Guys, Haley,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the floor first, your overall takeaways from Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley after the game called the defense up and down.

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Speaker 1: But to me, that's how I feel this entire Chargers

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Speaker 1: team is. And we've seen a couple of these games

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Speaker 1: where you get, Okay, a couple sides of the ball

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Speaker 1: are doing well, but then one maybe isn't. But yesterday,

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Speaker 1: to me, it just didn't seem like a great performance

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Speaker 1: really from the get go. And I know, Chris, you

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Speaker 1: tweeted specifically about the first quarter and how the Chargers

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Speaker 1: just do not are not performing right off the bat

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Speaker 1: points wise offensively, So I don't know. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: is really tough obviously with the injuries, but at the

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Speaker 1: same time, you are now in week seven. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams that are dealing with injuries. I

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Speaker 1: were able to sort of overcome it. Yesterday was just disappointing,

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Speaker 1: specifically obviously with how the game started with Seattle jumping

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Speaker 1: out to a seventeen nothing lead. And look, this Chargers

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Speaker 1: team is some holes over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: but it almost felt like this one, like everything sort

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Speaker 1: I think, to me, I know, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: go into the buy with a loss. But I almost

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Speaker 1: feel like this team needs to reset, Like this team

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Speaker 1: needs this time to sort of reset, reevaluate, look at

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Speaker 1: everything that's going on, injuries, not injuries, whatever, scheme, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is, and really sort of just take a beat

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Speaker 1: because as we will, I'm sure look ahead, there are

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Speaker 1: some tough ones coming up that aren't just gimme's right

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Speaker 1: they're leading the NFC West right now. The biggest question

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Speaker 1: for me, and I actually plan on asking Brandon Staley

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Speaker 1: looking at? What is the identity of this team? Because

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Speaker 1: I think it has been a very week to week

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Speaker 1: just some consistency because overall they've been pretty inconsistent on

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Speaker 1: all sides. Well said, and you know, these slow starts.

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Speaker 1: You can do it against Cleveland, you could do it

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Speaker 1: against Denver, who doesn't have much of an offense. But

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Speaker 1: Gino was cooking from the start and then Kenneth Walker,

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Speaker 1: of things that need to be fixed, but I mean

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Speaker 1: those first quarters really put this team in a hole. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you brought this to my attention yesterday. Austin

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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, fantastic. Um. I think that if they

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Speaker 1: come in and beat this Chargers team, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be a huge bummer, you know obviously, And I think, um,

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Speaker 1: you can't look too far ahead. We obviously always do.

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Speaker 1: But I think this this stretch, this three greame stretch,

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Speaker 1: as we sort of kind of chunk everything out, um,

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Speaker 1: is pretty tough. And to come back from the by

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Speaker 1: and then have to hit the road twice. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: this is the schedule is so weird. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there was about a month or so in between,

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Speaker 1: you know, three weeks in between home games. You got

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Speaker 1: another sort of like month ish stretch in between home

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Speaker 1: games of kind of finding that rhythm and playing at

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Speaker 1: your place. But um, but it's it's not an easy

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Speaker 1: back end. And you saw Tua come back for the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and they won. The Titans won on Sunday. These

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Speaker 1: are all teams that are frisky. The good news is

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Speaker 1: the AFC is bananas in general. Um, the AFCAS, Chris,

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Speaker 1: you and I were talking about this though, that is

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Speaker 1: like the sneaky division. Now. I think the the West

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Speaker 1: was going to be, I think moved east to the

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Speaker 1: AFC East, and that could be the division that really

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Speaker 1: puts multiple teams in the playoffs if it doesn't come

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Speaker 1: from the West, if you will. But there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of tough football that's coming up for this team. And

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Speaker 1: that's why the identity question to me is so big,

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Speaker 1: because you want to find it, you want to hit

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Speaker 1: that stride because you got a lot of really challenging

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Speaker 1: games that are coming up on the schedule, no question,

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Speaker 1: and Eric, you go, NFC, NFC, NFC. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to lose any games, but you prefer to stack those

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Speaker 1: AFC wins. For me, it's it's gonna be really important

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Speaker 1: for this team to get back on track in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: on the road coming off that by because I think

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Speaker 1: it'll show us what the bye did for this team

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Speaker 1: right off the bat, right. Yeah, for sure. I was

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Speaker 1: walking out of the stadium last night talking to them people,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we were already kind of looking ahead

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta and someone that you know, this person that

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't really know what to make of

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Speaker 1: the team. I think we can all agree with that.

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Speaker 1: But the and A game will tell me a lot,

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Speaker 1: just because they'll have a break. You know, they can

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Speaker 1: rest up mentally, physically. But you kind of have to

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Speaker 1: win that one really because then you go to San

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Speaker 1: fran and at home against KC. If you if you

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Speaker 1: can't win that Atlanta game, and then you fall to

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Speaker 1: five hundred and then you got a bunch of tough

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Speaker 1: games coming up, You're you're kind of positioning yourself out

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Speaker 1: of the playoff race a little bit in November, and

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Speaker 1: that's not the direction you want to go. You obviously

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Speaker 1: want to be trending in the right direction. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, a to a tough stretch after the by

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Speaker 1: four of the five games are on the road. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know to two AFC West games in there. I

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Speaker 1: mean if you go what three and two in that

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Speaker 1: five game stretch, I think we probably take that and

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Speaker 1: just try to stay afloat and keep keep grinding away. Um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, a lot of eyes are going to be

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Speaker 1: on that Atlanta game. You know, like I said, they

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Speaker 1: like to run the ball. Maybe by then, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: something dramatic will change with the run defense. You know,

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Speaker 1: they'll sit down this week and kind of go back

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Speaker 1: to the white board and figure it out. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Um, I think we all

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Speaker 1: just kind of need a breather from this and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's time to go and what of that week nine?

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Speaker 1: Week nine? Hally, let's just end on this. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great point by you earlier, like depth

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Speaker 1: has been tested now and it's gonna be the guys

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Speaker 1: in that locker room right now that have to make

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Speaker 1: this happen, right, they have to turn this around. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you're not gonna have j C. Jackson. Let's say,

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Speaker 1: you know, Joey's been out for Shaun's been out. Whoever's

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Speaker 1: in that locker room needs to come together and turn

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Speaker 1: this thing around, because you know, trade deadline or not,

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Speaker 1: one or two guys, they're not gonna change what's going

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Speaker 1: on at this moment um. And they have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to turn this around, but it's gonna take within to

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Speaker 1: make it happen. Yeah. I was reading Daniel Popper's takeaways

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Speaker 1: last night from The Athletic and he had some quotes

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Speaker 1: from Sebastian Joseph Day and SJD talked about an urgency,

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Speaker 1: that there is an urgency now for everyone, and he

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Speaker 1: goes not just on us, but the urgency that the

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Speaker 1: coaches are also putting on us. And so I think

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Speaker 1: he's a captain. I believe it was voted one this

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Speaker 1: year and it's gonna take some tight, tight knit kind

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Speaker 1: of camaraderie to bring this group together. And I think though,

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Speaker 1: if you hear someone talking about that, that's what you

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Speaker 1: want to hear, right, you want to hear about that urgency.

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Speaker 1: You want to hear sort of the recognizing of yeah, shoot,

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Speaker 1: we got beat yesterday, and we need to turn this around.

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Speaker 1: And he ended it by saying, we've just got to

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Speaker 1: ff and pick it up. That's all I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's all I gotta tell you. They got it. They

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Speaker 1: got some message right there. Put that on a bumper sticker.

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Speaker 1: But um, I think that is what it's going to

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Speaker 1: come down to. The eyes that are out are out.

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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned it, they're out, and it sucks and

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, and it has happened before. I've said this

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Speaker 1: a couple times on here. In twenty fifteen, they lost,

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Speaker 1: dear lord. I mean, I honestly forget that. They had

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Speaker 1: the most players on injured reserve in the entire NFL

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Speaker 1: that season, and it sucked. But you've got to try

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Speaker 1: to pick it up. And if there is that urgency

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Speaker 1: within the guys who are healthy and in that locker

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Speaker 1: room to do it, you got to have the faith

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Speaker 1: that they will. But again, I think that's where something

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Speaker 1: like the buy is coming in. It's just the exact

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Speaker 1: right time to actually hit the pause button, reset and

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Speaker 1: get that urgency going moving forward. Well said, bye week,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody needs a bye week right already. For

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Speaker 1: the bye week teams. The final drive needs a bye week,

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Speaker 1: so we'll be off obviously next week. We'll see in

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks after the Charges take on the

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Speaker 1: Falcons in Atlanta for Halio would at Eric Smith. I'm

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Speaker 1: Chris Harry. This has been the final drive. H