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Speaker 1: R and B Money than we are the authority on

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Speaker 1: R and B Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: My name is Tankown.

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Speaker 1: This is the R and B Money Podcast on all things,

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Speaker 1: All be. It's this one thing, one thing, and it's

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Speaker 1: all and beat a whole bunch of it. Legs walking

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Speaker 1: down the.

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Speaker 3: Street, huh oh, stage mean, dazzling, stepping, west legging, dancing.

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Speaker 2: Singing man here going everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Every good great hair, great body of hair, awsome face.

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Speaker 1: You guys, this is episode. This is the homie and

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Speaker 1: she is absolutely an awesome human being. Harvey Money podcast

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Speaker 1: people all over the world.

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Speaker 4: Right, he made it.

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Speaker 1: I've been knowing you a long time, a long not

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Speaker 1: that long. We were on tour together in two thousand

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Speaker 4: Why are you aging me?

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Speaker 1: No? No, I'm the old guy here. You were a baby.

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Speaker 1: You were a baby, and we were looking after you.

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Speaker 1: You just a little pee ship trying to make sure

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Speaker 1: you had your milk.

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Speaker 4: And how are you agreed? I'm really great.

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Speaker 1: You look great. Thank you, you look great. And and

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Speaker 1: i've you know, we've seen you more over the years

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Speaker 1: lately than we have you know what I mean, And

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Speaker 1: just in your presence. Yeah, I always see your sister

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Speaker 1: more than you.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I get to see you.

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Speaker 1: Your energy is just your energy is just great, thank

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Speaker 1: you energy. What what do you attribute that to? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that just you? Is that just always been just

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Speaker 1: happy and just.

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Speaker 4: I am a general happy Yeah, I am a happy person.

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Speaker 4: I think I kind of feel on the spot because

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Speaker 4: it's like, why are you looking so serious? How you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Are you a happy person?

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Speaker 1: He's like, so that's that's his listening face.

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Speaker 4: I'm present, okay, presence, yes, okay. So it's like what

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Speaker 4: people will be talking about you sounds so healed.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I don't like that term though. I am just generally

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Speaker 4: a happy person, you know what I mean. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean I don't go through I guess what everybody. Everybody

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Speaker 4: goes through things. But I think my general mindset is

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Speaker 4: that like everything that happens is for your benefit, for

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Speaker 4: your good, Like whatever it is, however wonderful, however a

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Speaker 4: person may deem it terrible on its face, I do

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Speaker 4: think that it's like whatever happens, it's like thank you God,

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Speaker 4: like thank you, this is this is a lesson or

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Speaker 4: this is supposed to teach me something. And so if

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Speaker 4: you kind of look at life that way then, I

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Speaker 4: mean if you look at life like everything that happens

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Speaker 4: is for your benefit somehow, then it's all good. Right.

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Speaker 1: So it's a very positive way. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's par for the course thing.

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Speaker 2: Step you tell like day I wasn't posted.

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Speaker 4: Anymore, Yeah, or you step up your tone now because

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Speaker 4: you're it's bringing you bringing some attention to something, or

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Speaker 4: slowing you down. Even even if you slow down in

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Speaker 4: your day a millisecond, right, it gets you in the

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Speaker 4: car that much sooner or later, I should say, right,

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Speaker 4: And so everything is orchestrated. So everything that happens is

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, you know, there's a purpose.

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Speaker 4: There's a purpose, I believe.

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Speaker 1: I agree, there's been there's been a resurgence of you.

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Speaker 1: There's been more of you for sure lately.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm me, So it's it's hard to tell.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to look at myself from outside.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So so so again I'm just I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: there and just in terms of like who you are,

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Speaker 1: what you bring to this, what's missing from this? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like you're a thing where

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: How does that make you feel?

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Speaker 2: Preserving?

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Speaker 2: Are they in shape to do what they did?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like all those things that it's like seeing you now

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Speaker 5: it feels like seeing you then. Yeah, it doesn't feel

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Speaker 4: You, I'm like, yo, because you were so sweet because

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Speaker 4: from the phone from the audience, and I was like, we.

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Speaker 1: Were in the back. We were stuck, you know, because

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Speaker 1: come in. But we were just watching and it was

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Speaker 1: like it was me and my wife and I don't

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Speaker 2: The young girl. Yeah, I can't think.

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Speaker 1: They wrongfully took her metal. Yeah, I want to be

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Speaker 5: Name, you know, I think she might be a blazing too. No, yes, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Childs. Jordan child So it's me, me and my

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Speaker 1: wife and Jordan Chiles and you know, just a bunch

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Speaker 6: She's like like Jordan's she danced and she like, you

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Speaker 6: don't even know nothing about this. And that was the

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Speaker 6: effect that you had on me almost fifty year old

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Speaker 6: and a Jordan Childs who's twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, maybe, yeah. You know what I'm saying, that's

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's it's really humbling, you know, I

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Speaker 4: mean it's really humbling because you know, music is something

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Speaker 4: experiences like that means a lot. Definitely, to trying to

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Speaker 4: It didn't like people would say, oh, my goodness, this

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Speaker 4: it got me through this over this time, over time,

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Speaker 4: it's really easy to look at things and say, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: the importance in that connection.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people have always, especially with artists, they've

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Speaker 5: always looked at things from the numbers, right, We've only

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Speaker 5: that's kind of how we quantify impact with numbers.

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Speaker 4: You're having a very serious moment right now. I have

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Speaker 4: this inappropriate laughter thing like syndrome thing, So just ignore it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know your ass.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I get it because she's so serious and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: gotta be serious and that said it all. Sorry, Sorry,

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Speaker 5: No, But what I've said is like that's always been

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Speaker 5: through something. Yeah, And then I feel like that's always

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Speaker 1: It brings them. It brings them back to purpose, right

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Speaker 1: because I think that you know, earning a living and

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Speaker 1: But I think I think a lot of most of

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Speaker 1: and and then we found out one day you get

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. I used to forget to get my

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Speaker 1: I would have loved to be a bad manager. You

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Speaker 2: You enjoyed yourself right right. Oh my god, Oh my god,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I got paid for me.

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Speaker 1: Know, the front end was the whole end. You're good. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So so I want to know your your discovery process.

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Speaker 1: How were you discovered.

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Speaker 4: Again it? So I'm gonna go a little bit further

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Speaker 4: back than I usually go back.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, let's go back. Yeah, let's go back.

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Speaker 1: Money exclusive.

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Speaker 4: Her money can't make me laugh too much.

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Speaker 1: It's great. The smile is doing everything to that camp.

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Speaker 4: So you know, everybody knows kind of generally, like how

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Speaker 2: MV area too, Did you finish?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I did. And now I told my parents, like

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Speaker 4: I was thinking of I was like, if the opportunity happens,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking I might, But what do you guys think

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Speaker 4: about if I just leave in the middle of it.

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Speaker 4: My dad was like, maybe it depends. My mom was

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Speaker 4: dead set against it. But my mom also cried when

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Speaker 4: I became a professional singer. She was kind of disappointed

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Speaker 4: about that. Asian, you know, so it's like singer.

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Speaker 1: She was like all she heard was Karaoka.

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Speaker 4: She's like, that's well, She's just like that's all. She

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Speaker 4: just really scared. She just knew about like sex, drags

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Speaker 4: But I'm so thankful for that time though, because it

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Speaker 1: that from the beginning, you came out there like the

436
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: first song out the Gate, you came out the gate

437
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: that way.

438
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: I think you know what what it is to I

439
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: appreciate that one. I felt like that song represents because

440
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 4: you know, that wasn't gonna be the first thing. That's

441
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: what I was saying talking to me, was going to

442
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 4: be the first one. But when we did everything, I

443
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 4: was just thinking like because at the time of you

444
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: like a red eclipse, red e clips yea, and yeah

445
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: it was it was a little fast, little little little

446
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: fast car, you know, And I was thinking like what

447
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 4: do I want to be my introduction? Like because I've

448
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 4: been dreaming about so I had notebooks of like how

449
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: do I want to handle myself in interviews? Like what

450
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: kind of questions do I want to answer? What do

451
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 4: I not want to answer? What do I think that

452
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: how every thing should be? Like I had, I was

453
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 4: kind of everything planned everything well, you know, I guess

454
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: you could say that I was prepared, right, trying to

455
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: be prepared because I was one of those people who

456
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: would you'd see me across campus. I didn't have my

457
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: headphones in. That's also why I don't really remember much

458
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: of college. Unfortunately, I learned to be more present in life.

459
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 4: But I would walk between classes or like when I

460
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: had the little student job, and I would pretend I

461
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: was in the video, like I was listening to the song,

462
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 4: but I was pretending that this was my video. And

463
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 4: I really really felt like I was in I was

464
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: in my own world. So I had everything so prepared

465
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 4: one MOE while we fall in love. When we recorded it,

466
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 4: I was like, I like talking to me. I like

467
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: it a lot, but people don't know me. This introduction

468
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: is so important and what do I want to be

469
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: the first thing? And I actually didn't want to put

470
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 4: my picture out because I was like, sometimes people get preconception,

471
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 4: preconceptions or preconceived notions regarding like how you sound, and

472
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 4: some people would be like, oh, like you know, she's cute,

473
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 4: it's gonna be like which is cool. But I was like,

474
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 4: I don't want. I just wanted to be about the music.

475
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: I just want people to hear the music, and I

476
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 4: don't want any images getting in the way of their experience.

477
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: I just want that. And I think this is the

478
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 4: song that best represents me right now, everything you said

479
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 4: and the melodies, the delivery. I was like, if someone

480
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 4: could only hear one song from me, it's like who

481
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: is she? This song is who I am? And so

482
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 4: that's why we went through it. But it was the

483
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 4: whole thing felt different to me, Like to me in

484
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: my mind, it was very black and red of black

485
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: and red, like those little colors in my head. So

486
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 4: when I talked to Benny Boone and we were like

487
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 4: talking about the video and he was like summer day,

488
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 4: I was like summer, I'm thinking what streets night dark?

489
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: He was like, oh, like what. I was like, yes,

490
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 4: but but now I understand because I was able to see.

491
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: I was feeling the fire and like what it was

492
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 4: for me on an emotional level, like that song and

493
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: what everyone else was hearing is what what the song

494
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 4: was from the outside.

495
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: Refreshing, It felt light flowing.

496
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Summer day and I can get it now in New York.

497
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, first day of summer, Central.

498
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: Park on the outskirts, just walking, stopping at the truck,

499
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: give me a double vanilla, throw some morios on that

500
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: thing like it was.

501
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: A cataistic but it just felt things are going to

502
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: be good.

503
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: It's going to be a great day to day.

504
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 4: I see with that's that's that that matches me so

505
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 4: that that's I'm happy for that.

506
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: And then you were nothing. You didn't look like anything in

507
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: the industry at that time nor sound like.

508
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 4: So that was well, I don't know. Some people were

509
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: like they can hear the Merry influences to be to

510
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: be fair, which I which which she's one of my

511
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 4: biggest influenced may major by so that makes sense. But

512
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: I don't think there were a whole lot of Blazons

513
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: around at that time.

514
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't think we're like thing that.

515
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't think there was one.

516
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: You know, we we were we.

517
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: Were very rare to me military it was.

518
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: M right.

519
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: So what happened is that people I think people like

520
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 4: got on Blazion thing, got on the radar somehow, and

521
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: then people just started together. So it's always been about

522
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, always known about you people.

523
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: The way of water.

524
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 5: I got a question, very random, so because obviously I

525
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 5: want I want to hear what you did, because you

526
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 5: obviously went to college, you got education, you come from

527
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: two parent homes. It's a little bit of a different

528
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 5: path than the average artists. Right, most of us has

529
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 5: drop outs, most of us, you know, I mean just

530
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 5: for real, like it's just we got music, that's it.

531
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 5: So for someone like you, when you get your first check,

532
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 5: M hmm, what do you do with it?

533
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: I don't really remember what I did with the money,

534
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: you know what. I'm not a person that thinks a

535
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: lot about money, I gotta say, which is a good thing,

536
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: but it also kind of a bad thing too. What

537
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: did I do with that? I think you.

538
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: Didn't have any big purchase anything like when you first

539
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 5: got like.

540
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I I got got a little bit of money.

541
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: I think I think I bought a Cardier ring. Okay,

542
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: I think when I gave it to Angela. So your

543
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: first lates, you know, you just bought a whole bunch

544
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: of la When I was when I when I didn't

545
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: really have money because I was, you know, a student,

546
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: and everything I would I had a ritual. Okay, well

547
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: maybe that's why I'm always mentioned in lates and me

548
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: they're cozy. I only could get one a month when

549
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 4: I would get my little student check because my parents

550
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: had I always had everything I need, but not like

551
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 4: just extra stuff. You know, we got what we needed

552
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: for school clothes. Kids would get like a whole bunch

553
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: of stuff for school clothes. It's like here's a couple

554
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: outfits and one parachutes. Now we we had we never

555
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: wanted for anything. We always had what we needed, but

556
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: not always what we wanted. So when I had my

557
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: little whatever I had, I would buy the latte. It

558
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: was like four dollars, you know what I mean. And

559
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 4: I would sit just like this when I would get

560
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: that money and just be like and save that. Sometimes

561
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 4: I put on my one hundred dollars sweater that I

562
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 4: only wore that day, and that was it. So like,

563
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: you know, it was very basic. So when I did

564
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: get money there wasn't a lot of things that I

565
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: wanted to buy for everybody. It was kind of like,

566
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: now I can have a latte whenever I freaking want.

567
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: I don't worry about it. You can get them extra

568
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: cream whatever we're cream. Do it go crazy, go back

569
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: to one, I said. So it's like my big purchase

570
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: was like maybe it was like kind of like that

571
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: that ring. Now. I did go through a period where

572
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: I got a little crazy and I was like shopping

573
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: and buying a lot of clothes. I do remember that.

574
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: But then but then I was like, that's a kind

575
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: of like a waste. I'm more into like experiences, I think,

576
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: And so that's why the latte thing kind of was

577
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: a thing for me. It wasn't about the latte. It

578
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: was more about like being able to just sit back

579
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: and enjoy something, you know what I mean. And then

580
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: when I got money, it was like, now I can

581
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: just have the experiences that I want whenever I want

582
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: and not have to hold those because whenever I would

583
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: buy like more material things, I don't know, it just

584
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: it do didn't do it for me the same way,

585
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: But don't get me wrong. You know, if I was well,

586
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: I did start buying jewelry. I was like, I'll just

587
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: buy my jewelry. That's my thing. So that's probably why

588
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 4: I bought the ring, okay, But then you know I

589
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: forgot about it.

590
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: And fresh nigga shit, Yeah, yeah, that's what I did.

591
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: But I was also again you got to remember, I

592
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: was forgetting to get the money. I was forgetting that

593
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: I was getting paid for stuff.

594
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: Did you ever get the actual money?

595
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: I did? But I would forget every shot. I think

596
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: so because I was also not a person who was

597
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: counting the money like that dude. I was like, cool,

598
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: got the money, good, thanks it away, And I was like, oh,

599
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: I probably should count. I was just having fun. I was,

600
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: and I was like, Wow, it's funny that I get

601
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: paid to do this. And I still feel like that

602
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 4: a lot of times, you know what I mean, Like

603
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: I'm still thinking like, wow, you actually get money to

604
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: do the thing that you would want to do anyway,

605
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like whether it's music or

606
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: writing a book is kind of like wow.

607
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 5: So were you were you actually present in the beginning?

608
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: I was like really, so, you're just really anxious throughout

609
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 5: the whole thing.

610
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: For like a number of years, I was too anxious

611
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: to enjoy it, you know, like and then then it

612
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: hit me later on when I was overseas, I was like,

613
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: you know, I know you're really nervous about because I

614
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: talked to myself out loud, you know, I told you that.

615
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: I was like, I know you're really nervous about this.

616
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Like when you're by yourself, you're you're talking out loud.

617
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: People will literally be like, oh, I thought you were

618
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: on the phone. I was like, oh, no, that's just me.

619
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: Or they'll just come into a room and I'm just

620
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: standing in front of the wall.

621
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: Do you know why it's out loud?

622
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: Because I think, I mean, it could be like maybe

623
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: I'm just connecting with my higher self or because it's

624
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: not usually like what am I doing? And it's usually

625
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: like I'm so mad about this thing? But it's like, well,

626
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: why are you mad? Because I just feel like it's

627
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: just really I guess I really really upset about X,

628
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: Y and Z. Well, first, I mean, it's good to

629
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: acknowledge that you're mad, but maybe I mean it sounds

630
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how crazy it was. So I saw

631
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: this one thing about a serial killer and I was like, ooh,

632
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: I like that I know.

633
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: It's like when you see movies or you know, me

634
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: shooting movies and stuff like that, there's always this conversation

635
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: with yourself and it's out loud. And so I don't

636
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: talk to myself out loud, but I'm wondering, you know,

637
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: I was oneondering if the movies was just it's just

638
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: depict in real life like some people do talk to

639
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: themselves out loud. Yeah, so you're saying it like, I'm like, Okay,

640
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: there are people that.

641
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: Really do that because sometimes you sometimes you can get

642
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: outside of your emotional stelf on what's going on, and

643
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: you can connect to like a deeper part of yourself

644
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: and that's the part that we'll be speaking to you

645
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: and talking through like whatever is going on, right, and

646
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: it helps to kind of see things from a different

647
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: perspective in that way. So that's kind of like what.

648
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: I know, what I think, I do it seem but

649
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't talk like I don't, I don't talk. I'll

650
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: be like.

651
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 5: I'll be doing that, okay, talking to myself.

652
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's like Jason, it makes me be like,

653
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: are you going to are you going to.

654
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: Blow it up?

655
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

656
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't think for me like that's that's

657
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: the only time I've ever like that's talked out loud.

658
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: I'll just be going through like showing me and song

659
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: stuff and and.

660
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 5: And I don't know, just maybe are you playing both parts?

661
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 5: Because she plays both parts. What she's doing, she.

662
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Sits on both sides their levels to it, so she's

663
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: she's on the expert level like I'm beginners. I'm just

664
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm just still expressing one side of the conversation, which

665
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: is I'm not out loud, but I do find myself

666
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: like like mumble whispering, like what's on my mind, and

667
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: and everybody looking at this.

668
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: It helps to say it out loud sometimes.

669
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know what that is because I do

670
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: that when I'm singing.

671
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: It don't sound like nothing, but there was the lyrics

672
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: that you're singing.

673
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Or sometimes it's lyrics, and sometimes it's just a vibe.

674
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes OK, talk talk talk, and.

675
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: So I do I get it.

676
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: I highly recommend it for people to try if they

677
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: ever have, like, like in all seriousness, if you're ever

678
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: like going through something and then you're trying to figure

679
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: it out, because we all have that part of us

680
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: that's that's who we are, like on a soul level,

681
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: Like that's not necessarily your personality. That's not what you're

682
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: going through. That's not it's beyond emotion. It's not the

683
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: it does not. It only witnesses. It's not it does

684
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 4: not feel the emotion. It witnesses and watches. And that's

685
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 4: why I say it's like your higher self or not.

686
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: So when you're you're like, I don't know, I'm like

687
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 4: really worried about this thing. Okay, you really worried about well,

688
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: you're worried about that now because this is happening. But

689
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: but know that on the other side of this that

690
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: you know what there is that you have to do

691
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: with this thing. I know, but it's just like I'm

692
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to get this and this,

693
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 4: but it'll be figured out. It will be figured out.

694
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I know that.

695
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Okay, and you do all of that.

696
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 4: I do all that, but I might be like in

697
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: front of like sometimes in front of my bookcase, like

698
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: my son came and you're like mommy, he's like, oh,

699
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: you're talking to yourself. Because sometimes I'm saying or I

700
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: might be ruminating the things like about life, and I'll

701
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: say it out loudis because they're honest. They just honest gets.

702
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: They'll be like, oh, okay, I thought you were. I

703
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: can't tell that you're on the phone sometimes because you

704
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: have your ear pods on, but so I don't know

705
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: if you're talking to someone or just yourself. I'm like, oh,

706
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: thanks baby for your patience.

707
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: You know, did you talk about like how anxious you

708
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: were and and just in the early stages of this,

709
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: did you ever get a chance to feel like you

710
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: were being successful? Did you ever get a chance to

711
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: really like like se really see it.

712
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to do that this time because I don't

713
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: actually have like, there's some things I'm gonna do differently.

714
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: And I was like, Amory, this is what we're gonna do,

715
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 4: because you know, normally I'd be like, oh, I don't

716
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: like photo shoots. I hate doing this those kind of things.

717
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: And my dad was like, you know, if you're going

718
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: to do this, Amory, you need to just do you know,

719
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: do it all the way, do the things. I know

720
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: you don't like some of the stuff, but do those parts.

721
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, you're right, daddy, I am

722
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: going to do that. This is like a couple of

723
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 4: years ago. So this time I remember like I was

724
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: going to do a photo shoot. I was like, Oh,

725
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: here we go. I'm gonna do the photo shoot. Don't

726
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: want Can we be done with it? Can do it

727
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: real quick because I'm really to take pictures. I never

728
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: looked to it and I said no, Amory, And I

729
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: actually wrote it on a piece of paper, like in February.

730
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 4: I said that those those old things. I said, We're

731
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: gonna that's the old you. We're going to sacrifice that

732
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: old you because the old you, that's the old you,

733
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: that's not you anymore. The new you loves to do

734
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: photo shoots. The new you loves to I always love

735
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: to go to events when i'm there, but the lead

736
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: up of going to the event made me anxious and dreaded.

737
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: But then everyone's like, but you, you never be wanting

738
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: to leave you at the club because I love I

739
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 4: actually like going to the club, and I like going

740
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: to like ratchet club. I don't like going no bougie club.

741
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I like.

742
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 4: I like a hood club. That's what I like because

743
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: those are fun when people dance and it's just like

744
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: it's just the vibe is different. So I was like,

745
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna we like going out, and we like going

746
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: to things, and that's what it's going to be. And

747
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 4: because inside you do like that. So we're gonna put

748
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: aside the old things that didn't serve any kind of

749
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: real purpose. We're also going to enjoy the moment because

750
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: I started learning that at the very end, but I

751
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: didn't really we're going to get you your plaques.

752
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 2: You don't have no plaques, but you've never.

753
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: Care.

754
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: I don't really care about it.

755
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: I should have sent it to you anyway.

756
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: I was like, you should look at your thing. Okay,

757
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: we'll do that. We'll do that costs money. Where's the

758
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: money do? I just didn't send you the money for that.

759
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 4: So I was like, we're gonna get your plaques, because

760
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: I was always so like, it's like, do you want

761
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: your plaques? And I was always like, no, I don't know.

762
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: I don't I don't really uh later later later when

763
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: it well, we'll wait till another point when I get them.

764
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: And then I kind of forgot about them, so I

765
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: don't have, like I think I have one from like

766
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: France to this one record produce, the record producer that

767
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: I did a song for, and then I think I

768
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: might have I don't know, but I don't have like

769
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 4: a single plaque if I don't have any of those

770
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: things that I think. I have some awards like you

771
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 4: usuldly give those to my parents, and there were some

772
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: different things, but I was like, you know, I know

773
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 4: what's going on. You're not in You're not in the moment.

774
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 4: You're so like this, so focus on it. You're you're

775
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: missing the journey. And I was like, I don't. I

776
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: don't want to miss the journey because when you when

777
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: you're so focused on just getting to your destination, you

778
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: realize when you get there, there's nothing there. It's only you.

779
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: When you get to the top of the mountain, it's

780
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: only you, there's there's no one. No one ever talks

781
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: about that because then no one won't want to make

782
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: the track. But the whole point is like how it

783
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 4: was getting up the mountain, and I just didn't see that.

784
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: So that's why I was like, you don't have to

785
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: co pleaux. You know, I know some girls they be

786
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: having like cute like photos, you know, the photos even

787
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: going to the girl's bathroom and she got like the

788
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: picture of her like this, like you know, I was like,

789
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: you don't have no photos yourself, like not even one.

790
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: I was like, no, none of those things because you

791
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: never were concerned about it. But you want to look back.

792
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 4: It's kind of like little signposts like oh, I did

793
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: this thing, I did that thing. I said, so we're

794
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: gonna do things a little differently this time. Are we

795
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: gonna be out of that now? I always go back

796
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: to that, just because it's just what does that really mean? Though?

797
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: Really, honestly, I mean, that's really just having a good time.

798
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 4: Everybody has a different definition from outside, and that's that's

799
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: the thing. It's like, Yeah, I was like, I'm gonna

800
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: have a really good time because I was too anxious

801
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 4: the first time around to like enjoy anything honestly, because

802
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: I was like so anxious about it and too nervous,

803
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: Like when I would go into a city, I was

804
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: too nervous to do anything because I was just like

805
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: dreading the thing and is everything going to be right

806
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 4: with the sound and the lighting and the show itself

807
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: and the run through and what do I need to do?

808
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 4: I'm like, girl, you are in wherever Germany you are in,

809
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 4: Let's go to get something to eat. Let's run by

810
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: that like the quick stop of that museum thing or

811
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: that one thing you wanted to see and you.

812
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Didn't do any of that.

813
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: I have dinner with like the promoters or whatever, because

814
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: they would always want to do dinners and they would

815
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: always say, oh, she's just not going to do dinner,

816
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: which I felt bad about, but they didn't understand. It

817
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: wasn't because I didn't want to do dinner with them.

818
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: I was just too nervous about the stuff. I said,

819
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 4: We're going to go do dinners. We're gonna enjoy because

820
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 4: this is an experience. So my whole outlook is is different.

821
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: So is it am the influencer now are you?

822
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: Huh?

823
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: I don't want you to be out here influence you.

824
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: I mean no, I don't like that term, but I

825
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 4: definitely will. I want to experience everything, and I'm not

826
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 4: anxious about it because I also realized too that there's

827
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: a lot going on in the world, and it's like,

828
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: it's so easy to feel like the things that we do,

829
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: like as artists, because there is a certain level of

830
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 4: self absorption that we have. You know what I'm saying,

831
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: But ain't nobody really pay attention to you that much

832
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: all day? Every day? They're going to see it and

833
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: then they're going to move on to the next thing.

834
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: So it's like for you, it feels like, oh, it's

835
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 4: not that dire, it's not that dire. Just have fun.

836
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: I also think part of having fun is is as

837
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: an artist is the delegation part of it, which frees

838
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: you up.

839
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 2: In so many ways.

840
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: And so it took many years for me to take

841
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: my hands off of things and just trust people to

842
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: do what they're supposed to do in the way that

843
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: they know I like it.

844
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: So somehow I feel like.

845
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: Whether it be a sound man or a manager or

846
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: you know, any of these things, it's like the relationship

847
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: and trusts has to be so where you can go

848
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: to sleep and wake up, or just get into a city,

849
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: not go to soundcheck. You know what I mean.

850
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: You ain't even showing the soundcheck.

851
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: No, I mean, my my guys know how.

852
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: You want to sound, how I like my.

853
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Stuff, You know what I mean? And we we now

854
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: we do rehearse it and practice it so that we

855
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: know and maybe in the first city we do one,

856
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: maybe in the second city, just to just to touch

857
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: it up and make sure. But once I once, once,

858
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: once I walk in the building, I'm just I'm just

859
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: vocalizing and doing push ups and doing push ups.

860
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: Okay. I was believing that that thought that was like

861
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 4: a metaphor for like getting ready, but I was.

862
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Like, literally, like they want to see these things, so

863
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: so you know, it was that delegation that freed up

864
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of space.

865
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: All this approving this and doing the Sundary. I got

866
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: push ups to do, I got some crunches, come on.

867
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: Come on, and I could I could rest. I could

868
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: really go to sleep before a show and really wake

869
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: up like ready.

870
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: That's hard to do though, because I am like super

871
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: pixel and when it comes to like artwork, for instance,

872
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 4: I almost got to do it. I'm like, what about

873
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: the colorization and what about because I can tell when

874
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: this is here, but it should be here because the

875
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 4: balance between the space and here here, and a lot

876
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: of people don't see that, and.

877
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: I suffer from it terrible actually, But I had to

878
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: take my hands off of things, like I had to

879
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: actually start, Like Jay helped me start appreciating things that

880
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: were so obscure and so not right.

881
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so.

882
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: Right, especially music like Jay. It's not right, he said,

883
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: but it feel good.

884
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: Okay, I can see that it would be so wrong

885
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 4: but right.

886
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: But once I, once I threw away my musical education

887
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: and and and and my my pulsh gift, And once

888
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: I threw all that to the side and just started

889
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: being present and was just what's happening, and stopped listening

890
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: with just being objective and and and giving it all

891
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: a chance, I started enjoying things that I'd never enjoyed before.

892
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 4: I can totally see that conversation happening between you and

893
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: because because Jay is just like very straightforward too and

894
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: not overthinker.

895
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: He's like, listen, no, he's he's an absolute overtaking he

896
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: also he's also willing to just do away with his overthinkings.

897
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: I shap rocking, now, yeah, that's what I mean, very instinctive.

898
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: Its just like yeah, I mean, and I think for

899
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: me and for him, right, we come from two different

900
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: size of music, right. I learned music in a sense

901
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 5: from the streets ultimately, you know what I mean. And

902
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 5: he learned music from theory and from church and you know,

903
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 5: all the right things.

904
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: And I learned the way. Not even I tease him

905
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: because he's got a baby face.

906
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 5: I'm like, I was actually good, well, I did my things,

907
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 5: but from a from a music standpoint, I didn't understand

908
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 5: any theory. I still don't to this day. I don't

909
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 5: understand it.

910
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: I can't.

911
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: I can tell you what the.

912
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 5: Middle C is on the keyboard, and it really goes

913
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: as far as that, like they can start talking about

914
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 5: chords and the progressions of this and I'm like, yeah, listen,

915
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 5: all that is weird.

916
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: How do we make.

917
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: It sound good?

918
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: How does it feel?

919
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: How does it feel? How do we make it feel good?

920
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 5: And I think him and I coming together and working together,

921
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 5: we found this happy medium of like, Okay, it's very

922
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 5: talented still, but it's digestible.

923
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: The actual world.

924
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: Sounds like a perfect marriage actually between because it's like

925
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 4: having that theory, but at the end of the day,

926
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: it is feeling. It is emotional.

927
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 5: And then he started pointing stuff out to me, you

928
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: know where it was like, no, Jay, it sounds like

929
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: this because of that, and I'm.

930
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: Like, ah, he is a piano keyer, you yeah.

931
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 5: So, And I think the other part was just us trusting,

932
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 5: us trusting and having that respect of being like, Okay,

933
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: he know what he's talking about on this side of it.

934
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: So I'm smiling just because I'm like, it's a real story.

935
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is though talent, it really is man

936
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: and it has helped us.

937
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: Okay, back they can't wait to sing another verse of

938
00:46:54,040 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: road Story? Do we get to this one? Thing? Is it? Is? It? Is? It?

939
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Is it time to go there?

940
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 4: I think yeah, because let me think of there is

941
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: there anything?

942
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Because because like you do it with Why Don't We

943
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: Fall in Love? You do it with talking talking talking,

944
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: you do it and now it's time to do it again.

945
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 4: Oh second album?

946
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: Is there? Pressure?

947
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 4: There was pressure, and you know what there was There

948
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: was a little bit of me learning like what I

949
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: really loved to because between the two albums, I did

950
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: a movie. And that's why I you know, because there's

951
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 4: there's writing and reading and writing, there's music, there's there's acting,

952
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: and that's when I learned that I liked acting. Third best,

953
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 4: I was like because I was on set, I went

954
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: into it like I'm really excited to do it and

955
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: it was a great experience. I was really excited to

956
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: do it. But I remember I was like, I really

957
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: need to get into the studio. When is this movie done?

958
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 7: This is great?

959
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: But when I was like, wow, you really like this,

960
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 4: but this is this lets you know where you prioritize it.

961
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 4: So the second album, one big thing I wanted differently

962
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: was I wanted to move, because that's what I actually

963
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: said in the first album I'm sorry, excuse me. The

964
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 4: first album, it was kind of like moody and a vibe. Actually,

965
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 4: a lot of people would come up to me and

966
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 4: they'd be like, whit, why don't we fall in love? Yes? Right,

967
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: But then they would also say and maybe I just died,

968
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: But then they would say, your personality feels so different,

969
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: Like I was expecting a different kind of vibe from

970
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: you when before I met you. I was like like what,

971
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: and they were like, I don't know, it's just like

972
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: more like chill because your album is so chill. And

973
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, that's the opposite of me actually,

974
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: but that's the side of me too. It's just different.

975
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: But I knew that at the time. I had told

976
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 4: Rich when we were creating it, I really want to

977
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: be on stage and I want to dance. I want

978
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: to dance, and I'm I'm into like rocking out on stage.

979
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 4: That's like what I want to do. We just hadn't

980
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: figured out what how do you do? Yeah? With the

981
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: music would because we were just going with the flow

982
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: of the music, and it wasn't that, so I was like,

983
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: we got to get it this second time around. So

984
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 4: I remember when he was playing that and a couple

985
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: other songs like for that project, and I wasn't really

986
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: sure where we were going with it at first, because

987
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 4: it was also like kind of confused. It was a

988
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: lot going on. I think I actually specifically said that

989
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 4: it's a lot going on. I was like, and even

990
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: just scratching here is probably how I felt inside, like

991
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: I don't understand what is going on. What's happening. Like sonically,

992
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: it's a lot, but it had that go go feel.

993
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 4: I could understand that. But then there was some other

994
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 4: moments because you know, Richard likes to flip a lot

995
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: of things, so it was like some other stuff happening,

996
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 4: and then then the melody is doing something else. I

997
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: was like, I gotta like I had to ride with

998
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: him a little bit for that because I was like,

999
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: I know this is dope, it's something special, but I

1000
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: just don't understand.

1001
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: What that was was, because yeah, it wasn't a thing

1002
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: that we had heard.

1003
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: Before and putting it together.

1004
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Let's the go go elements were in there, but that

1005
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: wasn't go go and you.

1006
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 4: Know DMV, so you know what I mean, It's like, yeah,

1007
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: the elements are there, but other stuff happening. So it's

1008
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: like what is ahead?

1009
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: What otherworldly? No, there was nothing like that, so it

1010
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: could be hard to be like.

1011
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: Because you take a chance.

1012
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to you know. It's not even

1013
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: like I'm thinking as far as taking a chance at

1014
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 4: that point, I'm like, I'm trying to understand what I'm

1015
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: listening to, you like, what the process, what's happening? You

1016
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And then then I was like,

1017
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: all right, let's do it. We started recording, and I

1018
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: felt like there was something special, but I wasn't sure

1019
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: what everyone else was going to think, because I didn't

1020
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: know if everybody else would think kind of how I felt.

1021
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 4: But I was a person who notoriously I don't notoriously

1022
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: didn't get first listens. I do now. I remember like

1023
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: growing up as a kid TLC read all all the

1024
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: dope records. I was like, I don't get it, and

1025
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: don't get me. I was just missing I don't get

1026
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 4: it the first listen. So that's when I started to

1027
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: change and come out of that. So I didn't know

1028
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 4: if I wasn't getting it because that's just my usual

1029
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: I don't get it, or if it's is just not

1030
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: like ungettable, if that makes any sense. Even after we recorded,

1031
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know what this is. I

1032
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: was like, it feels great, Like the feeling of it

1033
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 4: is great. I don't really know other people are gonna

1034
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: get it because it also, you know, I don't have

1035
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: like an eight O eight in there, and I love

1036
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: eight o eights because I'm you know, also grew up

1037
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: in Texas too, so to me, I would just listen

1038
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 4: to you know, DJ Magic Mike there was a Magic

1039
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: Mic or just d DJ Mike or just DJ Magic anyway.

1040
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: It was like just basse. I was like, when I

1041
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: grow up and I have a car, I'm gonna have

1042
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 4: a car with base in it, and it's gonna be

1043
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: like a lowrider with a bunch of base in it.

1044
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: That's what I want. Like, that's that's it. Eight O waights.

1045
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 4: So I would always ask Rich anyway, like where the drums?

1046
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: That's what I used to always ask Rich Harrison, Who's like,

1047
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: where are the drums? He was like, we're talking about

1048
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't hear the drums, you know

1049
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 4: we're talking about. I was like, so, where's that. He's like, oh,

1050
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 4: you're talking about he was like, he was like, oh,

1051
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: you're talking about eight weights. I was like, yeah, can

1052
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 4: we put some in this? He was like no. I

1053
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: was like just try it.

1054
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: No.

1055
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: I think actually a couple of times he did put

1056
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: them in there and like but I was like, oh,

1057
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 4: He's like, okay, I did your eight awaights. I was like,

1058
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: where is it. I was like, it's not doing them.

1059
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 4: He's like, it doesn't go with this.

1060
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: One of the classes rattling in the truck I did.

1061
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: I did that had been a whole different artist.

1062
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: I did, like you do you understand how how sonically

1063
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: like as I like, as I'm just listening to this

1064
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: these songs in my head replaying them, I don't know

1065
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: who else could have sang them, because it needed a

1066
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: certain texture and a certain energy in order for it

1067
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: all to make sense. I don't think you were the

1068
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: calm in the storm, right because because your voice wasn't

1069
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't the calm, but it was the constant, you know.

1070
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: It was like it was like the thing that we

1071
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: could reach to and hold.

1072
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: On to stuff and be making me feel like I

1073
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 4: guess any artists like we'd be doing stuff because it's

1074
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 4: like the way you said it makes it sound.

1075
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: Like it's so think of it this way, right, If

1076
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't everything that I'm saying it was, it wouldn't

1077
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: matter today, And it fucking matters. And you feel it

1078
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: when you get on stage. You feel it when you

1079
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: walking down the street, you know what I'm saying. You

1080
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: feel it when you're outside now, you feel it when

1081
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: they when they saw you at the Brandy and Monicatur

1082
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: and he was on the Rise or the O. You

1083
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: feel it because those those those moments in those songs

1084
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: and and and what you did, they didn't matter. It

1085
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: was it was classic. Did you know you were making classics?

1086
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: You know at the time. No, although we did have

1087
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 4: a conversation, like Rich and I did have a conversation.

1088
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: He was like, you know, it's gonna be class People

1089
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: can say this is a classic album. That was the

1090
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: first album though, But then we were also like, because

1091
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: we do feel like it's a great album, and everyone's

1092
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: first album is the introduction is always like the classic.

1093
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 4: And I was like, I know, and then they're going

1094
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: to be like, why don't you make another one like this.

1095
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 4: We were having that conversation while we were still creating.

1096
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 4: I didn't even have a record deal yet. It was

1097
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 4: then they're gonna be like, why don't.

1098
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: You do it like the first time the album that's

1099
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 5: not even out yet.

1100
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a record.

1101
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a classic, right, And I was like,

1102
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: I know. And then people are going to be like,

1103
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 4: why don't you make more like this? And we're like,

1104
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 4: that's what happens. It's the thing. He was like, get

1105
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: ready and I was like yeah. I was like you

1106
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 4: get ready. I did it, did we did, did it

1107
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: and it It's been a great, a great journey. But

1108
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: also I do feel like when we did put some

1109
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 4: art into the world that didn't quite exist in the

1110
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 4: way that it was when we put it out, and

1111
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 4: that felt really good. Yeah, you are an originator, you

1112
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: can the ego with part of me says yes, But

1113
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 4: then there's another.

1114
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: On the Army Money podcast, Okay, because we're here to

1115
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: celebrate you, and today it is okay for you to

1116
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: celebrate yourself and it's okay for you to say, yes,

1117
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: I did that.

1118
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: But even if I don't feel like it came, because

1119
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 4: I feel like it's I feel like that art comes

1120
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 4: It's not wrong.

1121
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: It's not wrong. Okay, let's say you were a vessel.

1122
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: I was that vessel.

1123
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: Come on, chose me?

1124
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: Okay, she said it, We got it. Let's make that

1125
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: sound back. She said, nobody's better than her. She said

1126
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: she's the greatest of all times. Earlier you said that

1127
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: you had stepped away.

1128
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, I don't know.

1129
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: You don't have to go heavy into super heavy into that,

1130
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: but you know, is there is there a part of

1131
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: the thought process, in the whys and the house, in

1132
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: that space that you would like to share.

1133
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 4: I started a cult.

1134
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: No you did, I did?

1135
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: You? Did you start writing books?

1136
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah? I decided to write. Now it was a culture.

1137
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: I created my own religion. Thinking no, I actually stopped

1138
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 4: to write books. But the reason why one Something was

1139
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 4: calling to me.

1140
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1141
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 4: I felt like somehow I wasn't fulfilled and I couldn't

1142
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: put my finger on why that was. And then I

1143
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 4: realized those two things that was one, and I realized

1144
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: that I just felt at the time I couldn't see

1145
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: the value on what I was doing. That's ultimately what

1146
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 4: it was. I didn't realize till later, but I did

1147
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: at the time, feel like there has to be it

1148
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: has to be more than this. It has to be

1149
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 4: more than just you know, I'm making some songs. I'm

1150
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: on stage, I'm like, Okay, I feel pretty cute. Did

1151
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: it dude to get me Ina da da dah and

1152
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 4: that power that we talk about that when you like

1153
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: you feel when you're on stage. But I was like, boo,

1154
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: there has to be more, though, why why why why?

1155
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: What's the where's the why? I didn't have the why.

1156
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: At the time, I had the what and the how,

1157
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: I didn't have the why, like what is the purpose

1158
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 4: in this? And then at the same time, I was

1159
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 4: feeling like I miss something, like I miss like papers

1160
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: and like the smell of paper and the smell of books,

1161
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: and there's there's so many things story. Then that was

1162
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: before I realized I was missing story. Then I realized

1163
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: I miss stories. And it's like, yeah, that's why I've

1164
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 4: been trying to put these stories in these videos, but

1165
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: they don't fit because the kind of video I want

1166
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: to make is like astronomically expensive, like I want like

1167
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 4: the snow that I need another planet. And you know what,

1168
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 4: Chris rob And pulled it in for me because when

1169
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: we did the video for Touch, I had told him.

1170
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: I was like. He was like club, some dancing stuff,

1171
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 4: you know, some sexy stuff, and I was like, yeah, sexy,

1172
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: but also I need two moons. This is another planet.

1173
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: We have landed on this other planet, we're another species.

1174
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: I don't really know, but it still looks like human.

1175
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: But we need to be somewhere else. And he was like,

1176
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: I got you. I can at least. I was like,

1177
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 4: tell me what you can do. I couldn't get all

1178
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: the effects that I wanted because again, that was really

1179
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 4: expensive and the story I wanted to tell was like

1180
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 4: a little longer. But he did give me two moons

1181
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 4: and he built a jungle in the parking lot, and

1182
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: so when I got there, I was like, Okay, that's great,

1183
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 4: but people won't really get that when they see the video.

1184
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 4: They'll probably like see it kind of sorta and it's

1185
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 4: like in the club and it's hot and sexy, but

1186
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 4: there was also a story there, and I was like,

1187
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 4: I can't tell the stories. Like I had another video.

1188
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: I was like, it's post apocalyptic kind of mad Max vibes,

1189
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 4: but I couldn't tell a story I wanted. I did

1190
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 4: have me hanging off of a truck. Though there's a

1191
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: lot of things that I want to happen, like I

1192
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: want a lot of your stuff to pieces, but not

1193
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 4: the full thing.

1194
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: Fully tell that story.

1195
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: Thank you?

1196
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 4: Was that your way of being like, girl, you're taking

1197
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: too long to tell the story. I know it's hard

1198
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 4: for me to articulate that sometimes that thank you for

1199
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 4: leaving me back on the path. I couldn't tell the

1200
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 4: stories that I wanted to, and so I was like,

1201
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: you just I think you missed a story. You want

1202
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 4: to write books, and you know what, this is a

1203
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: good time anyway, because you're feeling like somehow you don't

1204
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: know what the purpose is for this other thing, which

1205
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: is music. Just step away for a while. Just do that.

1206
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 4: And then I kept doing little things here and there

1207
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: and put like a song out or something like that,

1208
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 4: but I wasn't like really doing it. But I always

1209
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: knew though I knew again the voice, you know, it's

1210
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 4: not even the voice, it's just the others. The me,

1211
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: the deeper me, was like, you know that this is

1212
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: gonna come back around. I don't know when, but it

1213
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: is going to come back around, and it's going to

1214
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: be You're going to be in a place where you

1215
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 4: really get it, and it's going to be better on

1216
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: and so many levels because you're going to understand the why.

1217
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: You're going to have your why eventually. But I didn't

1218
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 4: know one that was going to be. And it turned

1219
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: out to be like fifteen years later or fifteen depending

1220
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: on how you look at it, fifteen twenty years later.

1221
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: So now I get it, though, I get it, and

1222
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: it took me a long time to understand essentially how

1223
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: art is important and even though you're not caring cancer,

1224
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: even though you're not a doctor saving lives, even though

1225
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: you're not stopping wars from happening, you soundtrack the lives

1226
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 4: of people. People are. We're human beings. We need to connect,

1227
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 4: We need that energy, We need the music. That's why

1228
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: you can never create the thing that people want that

1229
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 4: people are like, they want the music that they heard

1230
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: when they fell in love with you, whether it's your

1231
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 4: first album or they found you on your second or

1232
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: third album, that album for them was their introduction to you.

1233
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: And the reason why you were introduced to them was

1234
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: because they were going through something at that time where

1235
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 4: your music resonated with that. You can't recreate that, you know,

1236
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 4: I can't recreate that for someone because this is your experience.

1237
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 4: This music was just giving you what you needed to

1238
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 4: be you. So to ask me to recreate something is

1239
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 4: asking me to make you feel like where you were then.

1240
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: But that you can do that, I can't give you that.

1241
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 4: I can only give you a marker like a sign post.

1242
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: Right.

1243
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: But once I understood how the music can touch people

1244
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 4: in that way, in more than a theoretical way and

1245
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 4: more than a oh the music that gets you know,

1246
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 4: people through We knew that already when we got into

1247
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: the music industry because we knew what that did for us.

1248
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 4: But when I really understood what that was, I understood

1249
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 4: the gift that it is. And it's like a gift

1250
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 4: and it's also a service for people, and it's not

1251
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 4: about you as an artist like to just like blow

1252
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 4: up your own head or whatever. It's like you're in

1253
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 4: this position to help someone and to spread good energy

1254
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 4: or whatever energy somebody needs for their thing. So I

1255
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 4: was like, I was like, see, that's why it's time.

1256
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: That's why that's why the alignment alignment is happening now,

1257
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: because now you understand that on a deep level versus

1258
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 4: just feeling like it's about you just making records and

1259
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 4: I'm very competitive actually, right, Like I always would approach

1260
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: records as and the music business is a sport, you

1261
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and with like a lot of

1262
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 4: like bravado inside not outside. But then I realized, too,

1263
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: it's it's not really that. And I was never like

1264
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 4: a rapper necessarily like how the rappers compete like in

1265
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 4: hip hop. But it was like, so I kind of

1266
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 4: knew art is you're always competing against yourself really, but

1267
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: I just was missing that one why And then I

1268
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: then I understood it more fully, and then I had

1269
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 4: so I found my purpose and then I was like

1270
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: it's time. I actually literally called Troy or I call

1271
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 4: my manager at the time, and was like, hey, you

1272
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: cause we had met with Troy already, Troy Taylor's who

1273
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 4: we still kicked it off with, right, And I was like, yeah,

1274
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 4: I guessaid. I had this epiphany in the kitchen and

1275
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: I was like, that is now. I was like, okay,

1276
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 4: it's now, I feel it. I called and was like

1277
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 4: tell Troy, like ready to go in see what's going

1278
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 4: on with his schedule. They're like, are you sure? You know?

1279
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 4: You always you do these these things and you cancel it,

1280
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 4: and you change your mind, you change your mind for years, right,

1281
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, this is time. It's like

1282
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 4: for real time now. And I'm actually gonna call my agent.

1283
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let her know. I'm gonna put the book

1284
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 4: club on hiatus. I'm gonna put them books down. And

1285
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 4: I still love my books, you know, but for right now,

1286
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 4: we're going focus on the music. Focus on the music.

1287
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on hiatus for at least one year.

1288
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 4: And I was like, because this is the time. Now,

1289
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: I get it. I understand what I needed to understand.

1290
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 4: Everything is timing, but it's not just random timing. It's

1291
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 4: divine timing. And sometimes we can say like this is

1292
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 4: this is divine orchestration, right, like like this is the thing,

1293
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 4: but really everything is divine orchestration. Even when you stub

1294
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 4: your foot, right, you stubb in your foot, or you

1295
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 4: can't find your keys and you're trying to go out,

1296
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: it's because you see, everything is like threaded through to perfection.

1297
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 4: And some of the things that we call like oh

1298
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 4: this was divinely orchestrated, it's just because it's a bigger signpost,

1299
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like you come through

1300
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 4: and it's like, fact, yes, I believe that we did it,

1301
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 4: Like in our between lives, like I'm gonna go there

1302
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 4: and this is the thing I have to learn. So

1303
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot of paths between this and this,

1304
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 4: but I know this has to happen or I have

1305
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 4: to meet that person or this particular hardship or whatever

1306
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 4: it is has to happen. And in between it can

1307
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 4: be all these threads, but there are threads between them.

1308
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 4: But these are the things that are definitely gonna happen.

1309
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 4: And those are the things that I think when we

1310
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 4: kind of feel like we all have that thing where

1311
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: we kind of knew we were going to get that

1312
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 4: job or move to this place, It's like I just

1313
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 4: kind of knew it. It's because it was already said

1314
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 4: you know what I.

1315
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: Mean and that and that's what you have for us

1316
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: now right.

1317
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you lost me.

1318
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: You said I missed that.

1319
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 4: That would have been great. Sorry, That's what I told you.

1320
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: The other that people have no idea how hilarious you are.

1321
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: You're not even trying to be like you are hysterical

1322
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 1: than what I'm saying is that you're why you know

1323
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: why and you are in in that space as we speak,

1324
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: I am, and you had something for us, yeah, because.

1325
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, well, I was like to tell me,

1326
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 4: was the scene today.

1327
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: Like the stage play oh my first love? No? No,

1328
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying in terms of delivering, delivering us,

1329
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you back in the music,

1330
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: back in in this musical space that I know that

1331
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: we know you belonging the book book club is awesome.

1332
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 5: I love want, we want you back saying, and we're

1333
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 5: glad that you are right. And then she's showing up

1334
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 5: to the hood clubs.

1335
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm working on you got classes anyway, She in

1336
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 4: classes in Atlanta, Guys.

1337
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: You know she she's you know what I'm saying. If

1338
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: you're looking, she's doing it.

1339
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 5: She's around since we're on this music thing, since we

1340
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 5: on this music thing, you know, and the research of

1341
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 5: Amory back outside you have you have to define that.

1342
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 4: For the people because apparent outside Netflix and Chill, I

1343
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 4: thought Netflix Chill was really watching something and chilling. Yeah,

1344
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: and it became something else, and it became something else.

1345
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, chilling can be Chill.

1346
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 4: Was never a Netflix and Chill.

1347
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: It was always been Netflix and chill, but everybody chills differently.

1348
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 4: I just realized you got to get them definitions together.

1349
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: First, start saying, when you're outside, you grown ass woman.

1350
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: When you go outside, you can do whatever you want

1351
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: to do when you outside. Yeah, you have to define

1352
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: that for nobody. Nobody to boss you.

1353
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 4: I know I'm the boss. I literally told somebody that

1354
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 4: the other day. Ship told you had that. He said,

1355
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: that's literally my job. I said, why are you trying

1356
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: to be the boss of me? He was like, that's

1357
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 4: literally my job.

1358
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: All right, nobody, Ship, you're back.

1359
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: I'm outside outside in my way.

1360
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 5: Put a record out, chatting putting music out. Yeah, and

1361
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 5: I've seen it. We've talked about it. I've seen just

1362
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 5: how just the type of energy that you got back

1363
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 5: from different artists, from the public and just people that

1364
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 5: are appreciative of the fact that.

1365
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: You want to do it again.

1366
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1367
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: How does that feel for you?

1368
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: That feels you know, it's it is humbling, because I

1369
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 4: never like to assume that people like, are you looking

1370
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 4: at your phone?

1371
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 1: You bored?

1372
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry that I'm not entertaining enough.

1373
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: No, okay, no, no, don't you do this.

1374
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 4: I know that there's a very someone must have been

1375
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: in the hospital. I'm so sorry.

1376
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the only thing that would have They're

1377
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 2: back to life though.

1378
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 4: No, But you know, you never know, Like it's like

1379
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes like there's a few things going

1380
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 4: on with me because on one hand, you know, know,

1381
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: like if people like your stuff, I just mean just generally,

1382
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 4: like if they like your music, not a particular song,

1383
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 4: but maybe they just don't like it. Or I feel

1384
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 4: like when I went when I went through this whole

1385
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 4: experience of like becoming like a recording artist, it's not

1386
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 4: like I was a kid doing it first, right, I

1387
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 4: went to college, I went to high school. I worked

1388
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 4: in like AFC, Like, hi, ow KFC, would you like

1389
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, would you like cool creamy dessert with that?

1390
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 4: You know, we had to ask that at the end.

1391
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: I had like these very like Americana type situation growing.

1392
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 4: I was a backer at the grocery store, you know

1393
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, so for me to come into

1394
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: it was not like I never confused it for who

1395
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 4: I am is what I do making music is who

1396
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 4: I am. Being an artist. I am an artist, like period, right,

1397
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: You're just an artist. But I never felt like when

1398
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 4: I got in the music business, like this is who

1399
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 4: I am. It's like, oh, this is what I do,

1400
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 4: and people love me. But what they really mean is

1401
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: that they love how I make them feel. So I

1402
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 4: never got it twisted right. So to feel like getting

1403
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: the love that I that I get, it always feels

1404
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 4: like surprise to me. And it also feels unexpected, you know,

1405
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: like oh wow, really like it's something I don't know. Well,

1406
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: I hope I don't lose that because then maybe I

1407
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 4: would be taking that for granted. So I think I'm

1408
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 4: still getting used to it. Probably, Sorry, it was just

1409
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: giggling because it's different from the ladies and the fellas. Sometimes,

1410
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: why are you looking like that? Because you know, my

1411
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: fan base is like sixty percent men. Actually, most R

1412
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 4: and B is like women fan base, but my fan

1413
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 4: base is oddly like half and half with a little

1414
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 4: bit more male. So you know what I think it is.

1415
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 4: I think it actually is because it's a really great

1416
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 4: blend of hip hop and R and B. As far

1417
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 4: as like when it came out, like the sound at

1418
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 4: that time, a lot of guys that didn't listen.

1419
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 2: To Yeah, I feel weird as a man, you don't

1420
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: feel weird.

1421
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 4: I got a lot of that, Like, you know, I

1422
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 4: don't normally listen. I don't normally do this, but I.

1423
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: Think it's a I think another great new great part

1424
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: of that is you've and it's weird. I don't know,

1425
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you've kind of figured this out on purpose.

1426
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: But it's like being sexy, being beautiful, but not being sexualized.

1427
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 4: Like I told you on the outside of the New Day.

1428
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: You want, it's a thing where it's never it's never

1429
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: been viewed as as extra or.

1430
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 4: I like so much, or that's what I actually told

1431
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 4: my team when I first came out. I was like,

1432
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 4: listen one, I don't. I was like, I'm in charge

1433
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 4: of me. I was like, I definitely am all for

1434
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 4: I love short shorts. You already see me in my

1435
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 4: short shorts. I wore short shorts in school. But if

1436
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 4: I any bikini stuff, it's kind of because I want

1437
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 4: to do it. I'm not gonna let anybody just go

1438
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 4: in and try to sell me or whatever, which actually

1439
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 4: was cool because actually the label actually was kind of

1440
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: more like Donnie Einer was the head of the label

1441
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 4: at the time. He actually thought that the cover of

1442
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 4: my back cover of the album was too much. It

1443
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 4: was like it was really just like kind of what

1444
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 4: would be equivalent to boy shorts or biker shorts, like

1445
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 4: to hear with my legs out from the side. It

1446
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: was a great pick. But he was like, what is

1447
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 4: this I heard about the meeting? What is this all?

1448
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 4: Oh the thing?

1449
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 5: You know?

1450
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 4: You're like he wasn't pleased, but I was me and

1451
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 4: that's what I wanted. So for me, it was like

1452
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 4: really important to like, oh, my own sexuality, you know

1453
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 4: what I mean. But then I also told them too,

1454
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: my personality. I was like, I'm not a hard sexy person.

1455
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 4: That's not my vibe. My vibe is more like soft

1456
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 4: sexy and more sensual. Like that's as far as like

1457
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 4: an aesthetic. So as long as we stay in that direction,

1458
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be good. And so you guys know who

1459
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 4: I am a great great job of that, thank you.

1460
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: And I don't want to lead with that though. I

1461
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 4: was like, let's remember it's about the music, because I

1462
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 4: don't want it why.

1463
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: I think the music was able to do it do

1464
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: what it did because it wasn't It wasn't anything overshadowing it.

1465
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: Mm hm, you know what I mean. It was like

1466
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: I said before, it was a good blend of all

1467
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: those things.

1468
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1469
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: So we're happy because we don't like when we don't

1470
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: like when our classic artists are on around. We just don't.

1471
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think I feel like so happy because

1472
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 4: I feel like people are really appreciating R and B.

1473
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 4: And you have so many artists, you know, who are

1474
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 4: really doing it. But there's so like I feel like

1475
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 4: I almost like a resurgence of fans, like the brand

1476
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: new fans with like the TikTok era. There's so many

1477
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 4: people who are getting exposed to the music and appreciating it.

1478
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: So it's like new all over again, which is amazing.

1479
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 4: And you know, let's let's be real. So so many

1480
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 4: of us, so many artists pretty much look the same.

1481
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 4: I can name so many guys and so many girls

1482
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 4: that that or you know, men and women, female artists,

1483
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 4: male artists who who do look the same. And so

1484
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 4: it's like that kind of helps I think, connect with

1485
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 4: like the different generation or whatever. So everyone's just doing

1486
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 4: their thing and I'm I'm happy for that.

1487
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be a part of different than they

1488
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: did back in the day. It's a different time, different times.

1489
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 4: I think it's like a different music, a different makeup.

1490
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 4: I was just thinking that because I don't know what

1491
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 4: it is. I think it's you know what I think

1492
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 4: it could be. I think a lot of aging has

1493
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 4: to do with your mentality, and I think with music,

1494
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 4: music keeps you young. But also like our like culturally

1495
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: just generally across the population, we kind of back in

1496
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 4: the old days, like our parents and their parents, they

1497
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 4: would listen to different music from what the kids were

1498
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 4: listening to. Now everyone kind of listens to the same music.

1499
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 4: We're kind of wearing the same clothes. We kind of

1500
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 4: you're allowed to kind of still in your mind be

1501
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 4: feeling like whatever you feel without feeling like you have

1502
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 4: to now you're this and now you're having to look

1503
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, it's just like more like growing into yourself.

1504
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 4: But you know, aging and stuff, that's like it's all

1505
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 4: like a matter of mind too. I mean I say

1506
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 4: that slight digression, just very slight, I promise you know,

1507
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 4: because I was talking to my dad about like aging

1508
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 4: like just programming, and they were like, you know, even

1509
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 4: when people sing happy Birthday, those are all like little

1510
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 4: programs because it gets to a person's mind, oh, you're this,

1511
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 4: and aging means that and another year older versus like

1512
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 4: time existing on a certain level on this plane, but

1513
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 4: not really you know what I mean. It's like it's

1514
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 4: not not totally. A lot of it is programming. And

1515
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 4: my Dad's like, well, you know, things get older. I

1516
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 4: was like, they do, Daddy, but think about it, alligators,

1517
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 4: think about trees. I was like, there's this one little

1518
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 4: like squid or something like that. I think it's like exolotols.

1519
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 4: I can't even pronounce the word. But that little squid

1520
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 4: goes from like a poll up in the ocean and

1521
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 4: starts to have little legs, swims about, and then once

1522
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 4: it hits a certain point, the legs start to retract

1523
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 4: and it reverse ages back into a little pile up

1524
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 4: a little dot, and then it starts over again. So

1525
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 4: the scientists aren't really sure how long that lives. I

1526
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 4: say that to illustrate the concept that aging as we

1527
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 4: see it, aging as we think it is not just

1528
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 4: like this chronological, single directional thing. It's a lot of it.

1529
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 4: There's so many different possibilities on a physical level. That's

1530
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 4: before you even enter like the mind body connection to it,

1531
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 4: like the spiritual aspect to it, just on a physical level.

1532
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 4: And then you want to talk about like in the

1533
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: ancient times when people were living to be like three hundred,

1534
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 4: four hundred, five hundred, six hundred years old. For reasons

1535
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 4: we won't get into on this podcast because I make

1536
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 4: it too long and too much of a digression.

1537
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: But yep, you're gonna have to show up on time

1538
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: next year because.

1539
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 8: I'm saying that to me right now, available right he's

1540
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 8: about to act really talented and play us the selection

1541
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 8: hopefully soft and sexy.

1542
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: Something soft and sexy, because that's my five as I

1543
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: play these soft and sexy tunes.

1544
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 4: Oh no, and now it's getting to the part that

1545
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 4: I was anxious about.

1546
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: We're not going to be anxious at all. We're going

1547
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: to be.

1548
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 9: Soft and just come questions sexy things you might want

1549
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 9: to know. Okay, doing our soft and sexy mode and vibe. Wait,

1550
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 9: there's information that we need. The people want to know

1551
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 9: what they want to know.

1552
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: Chair A, Marie, what yourd.

1553
01:17:48,680 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: Top five? Your top five is soft and sexy, top five, Joy.

1554
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 4: To the easy thing.

1555
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 7: Guys, already soul. We've got to do big thought you

1556
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 7: were on.

1557
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 10: This up selling body. No, yes, the top tap.

1558
01:18:33,479 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: Your top f Nay, Marie, it's top five. R and B.

1559
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 4: Singers, okay, Top five R and B singers well, Mary J. Blige,

1560
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson, Yes, Marvin Gay, I'm naming my these are

1561
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 4: my influences.

1562
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 5: You're right.

1563
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 4: David Ruffin had an opportunity to tell his son that,

1564
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 4: like years ago, I was like your dad. I was

1565
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 4: like your dad, like a big influence. That's also with

1566
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,520
Speaker 4: my dad's favorite singers as well. Number five is hard

1567
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 4: because Sam Cook is another influence of mine. Like Marvin

1568
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 4: Gay really influenced me as far as like his wall

1569
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 4: of sound, his melodies, his approaches like those background vocal

1570
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 4: like vocal arrangements, but Sam Cooks simplicity and a lot

1571
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 4: of these are like my dad's influences too, or as

1572
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 4: far as like from his once Sam Cook. What I

1573
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: really got from Sam, what I learned from him was

1574
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 4: that you don't have to do a lot of vocal acrobatics.

1575
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 4: It was like the simple, like clean delivery. But the

1576
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 4: reason why I'm like, oh, it's like an asterisk because

1577
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 4: I could say Sam Cook, but then I also want

1578
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,799
Speaker 4: to put in oh, it's R and B Okay, okay,

1579
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 4: because what I was about to say it was not

1580
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 4: R and B though, was like like the Grease soundtrack,

1581
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 4: like that time like kind of like or like haull

1582
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,799
Speaker 4: of Notes, you know what I mean? Like there's those

1583
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 4: kind of R and B kind of sometimes you want

1584
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 4: to who who? I think it would be like haul

1585
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 4: of notes. M that's there's a duo. Oh no, I can't,

1586
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 4: mister Sam Cook. I gotta have Sam, yes, because he

1587
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 4: really taught me a lot because I used to think, like, man,

1588
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 4: I don't really do a lot of those vocal acrobatics

1589
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 4: like when I was in high school and should I try?

1590
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 4: But I was like, no, you shouldn't. I was like,

1591
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 4: and I would listen to him a lot to be

1592
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 4: like just capture, capture that. Okay, you'll feed that right,

1593
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 4: all right?

1594
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Top five R and B songs.

1595
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 4: No, okay, Moments of Love. That's the instrumentation. I don't

1596
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 4: know if it's R and B but kind of right, okay,

1597
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 4: almost love. There's so many great ones. Man, Mary's whole

1598
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 4: like My Life album. But if she did she did

1599
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 4: that used the sample that whole album, that whole album,

1600
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 4: but I think for her it was called maybe it

1601
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 4: was on Did she call it All Night Long? Too?

1602
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: I always did because I just knew the sample, So.

1603
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 4: No, we're gonna go with real Love because that's that's

1604
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 4: when I was introduced her, and I was like, what

1605
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 4: is this? What is this sound? What was this? Yeah?

1606
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: That that would change? So as a moments of love,

1607
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 4: real love, there's so many I can't just say an artist, no,

1608
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 4: this is the songs? Okay, cry for you? Why maybe?

1609
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Why don't because.

1610
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 4: It's just so great? What's going on? Marvin Gaye? Yeah,

1611
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 4: what's the what's this title? If this? Well, Mama Leleve

1612
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 4: Andrew Wilson and I don't think he did a duet

1613
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 4: version too, or they added no no no yeah yeah.

1614
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 4: But also I think samit Terrell and Marvin did that too.

1615
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 4: But I love the Luther version. Both of those were good.

1616
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 4: Did they do? There were the two versions? You guys know,

1617
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 4: you guys know everything.

1618
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 2: We don't know everything, but okay, there were two versions.

1619
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 4: And Marvin and Luther, right, Okay, Well I'll go with

1620
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 4: that song because they're both of the versions were good.

1621
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 4: Dangs that five already because I was gonna also say

1622
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 4: herd through the Grapevine too, that's kind of old.

1623
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Top eight, Okay, let's make a vulture on your

1624
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 1: super R and B artists, Right, you got to pick

1625
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: any artists ever in the history of articism and get

1626
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: the vocal, performance, style, styling, passion of the artists.

1627
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 5: A lot.

1628
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: This question here we go.

1629
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: So where you're going to get the vocal from to

1630
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: make your super R and B artist one vocal? You're

1631
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: making the best artist ever one vocal.

1632
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 4: But there's so many different flavors, but really one. I

1633
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 4: almost want to say what maybe might have to go for?

1634
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 4: Maybe Michael Jackson Jackson Jackson sold, Yeah, okay, sold.

1635
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, you sure.

1636
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to be unsure. I'm already letting you know.

1637
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 4: This is walking into this with uncertainty.

1638
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna We're gonna go Jason, Michael Jackson performing style.

1639
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 4: These are and women, right, So speaking in essence just.

1640
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:11,799
Speaker 2: Greatness, I would say Chris Brown.

1641
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 9: Hmmm.

1642
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: I would asking Chris Brown.

1643
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: Like styling, the styling, the drip of the artist.

1644
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 2: It's gonna get flying styling.

1645
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 4: I want to look to a woman for this, mm wait, styling,

1646
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 4: like is it stage styling? Stage styling? I would say

1647
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 4: Beyonce or Share or something, right, because that could be

1648
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 4: and and this could be a male artist too, So

1649
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 4: I would say that taking the essence if we're looking

1650
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: at if someone's imagining a male artist, taking the essence

1651
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 4: of what they're bringing to the styling, and if we're

1652
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 4: a female artist and taking the blend of a Share

1653
01:24:53,600 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 4: and a Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, actually, because Beyonce does a

1654
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 4: lot of the razzle dazzle already and Shared does that too,

1655
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 4: So I would say Beyonce and Rihanna gets a little

1656
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 4: bit bringing in two different elements.

1657
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, little blend, different kind of blend, different blend. Because

1658
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: you're outside, I know where you're going with this. I

1659
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: don't what's going on. The passion of the artists, who

1660
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: means it, who makes you believe it, who works hard,

1661
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: gives it everything they got, leaves it all out there

1662
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: on the stage. James Brown, it's been a lot of James,

1663
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: has there a lot of James Okay.

1664
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 2: The original Brown, a lot.

1665
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,879
Speaker 4: Of Jams Because I was actually I was actually considering

1666
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 4: switching the two, but because it was that leaves it

1667
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 4: on the stage like that. But then I was like no,

1668
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 4: because I know.

1669
01:25:59,520 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: There I was.

1670
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta go old, old school, not old,

1671
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 4: but go old school. Back when people were like going

1672
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 4: out there and fainting and then pulling the cake and

1673
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 4: then yeah.

1674
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it full sweat. I like that.

1675
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 4: Okay, was there another one?

1676
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

1677
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: I got that completed? That was pretty good, if I

1678
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 4: do say so myself. Yes, I mean I have to

1679
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 4: add myself in there somehow and nes not. We're not

1680
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:26,799
Speaker 4: being hung.

1681
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: No.

1682
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 4: I couldn't because I'd be like, oh, there's you were

1683
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 4: getting money. I'm sorry you were getting money for this.

1684
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 4: They were like, where's my money?

1685
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 9: Amy?

1686
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, wait, what else you got by cheap?

1687
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: Here we go. I ain't saying no nature. I ain't

1688
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 1: saying no names. Yeat, ain't saying no name. Was what

1689
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: you did? Don't say she? I ain't saying no name.

1690
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: So we are at the very, very very important part

1691
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: of the show.

1692
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 4: No, I was so nervous.

1693
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 2: A lot of people nervous. Don't be nervous because.

1694
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 4: I feel like, I don't know this story. But you

1695
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 4: guys have great stories.

1696
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 5: Hold me great stories. Now just take the names out.

1697
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 5: Will you tell us a story funny or fucked up?

1698
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 5: Are funny and fucked up? The only rule to the

1699
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 5: game is you can't say the names. Come on tell

1700
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 5: us all the come.

1701
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: On you, I have not.

1702
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 4: We've talked about that. I don't believe in blocking people.

1703
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 4: I just pretended to see them.

1704
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 2: It's a whole other type of.

1705
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 4: Block, okay, because don't want to make anyone feel bad.

1706
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 4: But if I haven't seen it with these chances that

1707
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 4: I actually haven't seen it though, just putting that out there.

1708
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is a Marie. I ain't saying a

1709
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: name names.

1710
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 4: Well, what time at band camp? I'm kidding, Okay. So

1711
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 4: I was, I was doing the show. There was an

1712
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 4: over gentleman that was part of the show, and I

1713
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 4: walked down. They left their dressing room open, and there

1714
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: was just you know, they're chilling there. Story's not going

1715
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 4: where people think. But I just like, you know, I

1716
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 4: just want to say hi. So I was like, oh,

1717
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 4: I just want to say hig because it was open

1718
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 4: people coming in and out, and I saw them fixing

1719
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 4: their hairline with a sharpie m and I said, oh,

1720
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 4: you know, mister such and such, there's like products for that.

1721
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 4: I seen, like the guys do their lineups. And he

1722
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: was like, there's this worked for me for you, I'm

1723
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 4: gonna keep on using it. And I was like, well,

1724
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 4: He was like, don't come up when you sweat, and

1725
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 4: I was like, well, is this good? It is staged

1726
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 4: this far. I was like, but they do have products,

1727
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 4: but whatever works for you, and that was it. See

1728
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 4: I told you it wasn't that like major he was hating.

1729
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 4: I wasn't hating on it, but there was. It was

1730
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 4: really I was really like shocked because I was like,

1731
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 4: they do actually have product. But you know, his lineup

1732
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 4: was clean, he had he had perfected it. It was

1733
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 4: a black shark, like a black one, not even dark

1734
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 4: brown like black.

1735
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 5: It was like it had to go with the rest

1736
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 5: of the die, so it had to be.

1737
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 4: But then I was like, it makes sense. When I

1738
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 4: started thinking, I looked at other pictures because I had

1739
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 4: to go back and see. And I was like.

1740
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,799
Speaker 1: The fact that you called him mister miss.

1741
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 4: Like this, I don't know what to call gentleman.

1742
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: There are products for that. You're a barber. To get

1743
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: you the magic, the right magic. You need help.

1744
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: I know a few, get some sharp.

1745
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: He works in a mind.

1746
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Use a little magic myself every now.

1747
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 2: He works in a bhind.

1748
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't, it does. If it's dark. If you're

1749
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 4: going on a date, don't do if you're going on a.

1750
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Date, don't trust her to do that.

1751
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like mister such and such, I don't know

1752
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 4: that the agent what you want to say? Do older

1753
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 4: men not like it when you say, mister ever call.

1754
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Me all day love?

1755
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: Mister I come from the color purple?

1756
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 4: Down was mister, But like I was like, how about daddy?

1757
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 4: That's actually another Now we're just going on somewhere, but

1758
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 4: y'all aren't y'all are guys? I should ask because we

1759
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 4: have this whole conversation with girls since we're talking about

1760
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 4: I don't even know how we got to that. Oh

1761
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 4: cause you call me mister all you want? That made

1762
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 4: me think, daddy, Like, what do you think about when

1763
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 4: women call men daddy?

1764
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: There's a time and place.

1765
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 4: But not just generally no, like daddy.

1766
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,719
Speaker 1: Can I have a or a significant Yeah? But random?

1767
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely no, not random.

1768
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 4: I'm talking about if that's that's the.

1769
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Person, the significant Yeah.

1770
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 4: Okay, So anyway, some people think it's gross. Some people

1771
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 4: that was also talking to a bunch of women. So

1772
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 4: this is my first time I'm asking men what do

1773
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 4: you think about that? Because it was the poppy.

1774
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 2: See I'm not Spanish, don't call me poppy.

1775
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 4: Not poppy, but dad.

1776
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying I'm black. Call me Dad, What are

1777
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: your thoughts?

1778
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 1: I live in my provider's space.

1779
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 4: You like it, see I like it.

1780
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to say, whatever you want it. Alive

1781
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: in that provider space, you can call it.

1782
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 4: I've never tried that. I did go to Coachella with

1783
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 4: my dad. They were like, white, take your dad at Coachella.

1784
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 4: I was like, this was my first time going to Coachella,

1785
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 4: and I was like, I want Daddy to, like, you know,

1786
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 4: experience it. But when we were there, I would say,

1787
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 4: you know, okay, Daddy, let's go Daddy. And I was like, I.

1788
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 2: Can't insurprising people that thought people a couple.

1789
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 4: Of years look a little. And I was like, Daddy,

1790
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 4: I can't call you that here.

1791
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 2: Dad.

1792
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 4: You heard.

1793
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: That he put the bad Anna. Ladies and gentlemen, listen.

1794
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 1: First of all, thank you, thank you, thank you. We

1795
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. We appreciate the classics, we appreciate

1796
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: the newness. We really appreciate that. We are happy you

1797
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: were back.

1798
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 4: Thank you. It feels it feels really good to be back.

1799
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 2: And then here and you're coming back to perform for

1800
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 2: us at some point.

1801
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: I am right there. Get the lighting right, because I

1802
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: know how you feel about lighting.

1803
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the lighting is really great.

1804
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, get you right.

1805
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 4: It's kind of like professional.

1806
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: If you look around man, shout out to the sun rose. Yeah.

1807
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: Taking care of us man, But we thank you and

1808
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: and you already know anytime you need us, we'll call away.

1809
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 4: I am going to remember that, you know, because jo

1810
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 4: I will be like, so I'm thinking about this. We

1811
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 4: think about that.

1812
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 5: Easy I take the car, you know that easy work.

1813
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 5: There it is, ladies, gentlemen, my name is Tank, I'm

1814
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 5: Jay Valentine and.

1815
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: This is the Army Money Podcast, the authority on all

1816
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:20,839
Speaker 1: things R and B. This has been music in Books

1817
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: brought to you by none other than Hey.

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Speaker 5: Thank you