Speaker 1: Kesha and the Creepies is a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm as scared as anyone about robots and
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, because it's gonna what it happens to
Speaker 1: me so quick, and they're not gonna be like, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna be like scary speci what happened. We're already
Speaker 1: fused with robots where if we sleep with our phones.
Speaker 1: Have you ever lost your phone and be like like
Speaker 1: the physical reaction you have? My phone died for two
Speaker 1: hours the other week and I literally had multiple people
Speaker 1: think I died. We're in a relationship with robots already.
Speaker 1: Everyone like, who dad a robot? It's like you're already
Speaker 1: doing with your phone. So are you psychic? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: I think everything your podcast. Welcome to my podcast. You
Speaker 1: just witnessed my greats I cack abilities in real time.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Kesha and the Creepies. Please welcome Whitney. They'll
Speaker 1: be spooky sounds here. Okay, yes, I do fancy myself psychic,
Speaker 1: but I think everyone has that ability. How so, I
Speaker 1: think it's about listening to your intuition, which is such
Speaker 1: like a roll your eyes googly bogly thing. To say
Speaker 1: to most people. But I feel like you're on the
Speaker 1: same page with me. That like if you really tap
Speaker 1: into your gut, like if you get underneath the fear
Speaker 1: and you get underneath trauma, and you get like underneath
Speaker 1: all that, your body has reactions, whether they come out
Speaker 1: in dreams. For me, it's in dreams or like sometimes
Speaker 1: I'll just like see something and then I'll be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the truth, and then I'll get a call three
Speaker 1: months later it's like, Oh, your ex boyfriend's fucking back, girl,
Speaker 1: And I knew that I need that. Everybody knows everything
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, that's fascinating. I it's weird. It's
Speaker 1: like I went to a psychic. There's just one psyche
Speaker 1: I used to it to all the time. Did you
Speaker 1: go once a year to the same woman or no? Yes?
Speaker 1: And it's weird because she is like a mirror, you know.
Speaker 1: She would basically would just be like, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you what you're telling me. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's kind of like what we just did.
Speaker 1: Like Gavin de Becker, who is like the number one
Speaker 1: security guy in um like celebrity Land, Hollywood World, he
Speaker 1: says every woman that was like assaulted or had something
Speaker 1: horrible happened to them. They always said in there like
Speaker 1: post interview or whatever you call it, I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew there was something off about that guy. I
Speaker 1: just fucking knew it. Well, just your gut will tell
Speaker 1: you someone. But he offered to carry my groceries, like
Speaker 1: he came. We've been so trained to not listen to
Speaker 1: our gut. We've been so pathologized to go, you're crazy,
Speaker 1: your psycho sensitive emotional? Yeah, those are you in your period?
Speaker 1: Do you? I was gonna say ib s, but I
Speaker 1: thought I U d on the brain. I was like,
Speaker 1: but it's it's just dismissing. It's just uncomfortable for other
Speaker 1: people to have emotions and intuition too because you say
Speaker 1: something that's like, oh yeah, I know that. It's just
Speaker 1: like it's too freaky. And that's what the whole podcast
Speaker 1: about is talking about, just like things are a little freaky,
Speaker 1: but also might broaden your perspective of what's possible, so
Speaker 1: you can go anywhere from like tell me the craziest
Speaker 1: ghost story you have, or like to psychic stuff or
Speaker 1: just like existentially, how do you feel on this earth
Speaker 1: when you like especially during this crazy time. I've had
Speaker 1: a lot of self reflecting and alone time, which is
Speaker 1: weird for me, and not going, going, going, going, Like,
Speaker 1: who are you when you're not constantly chasing the approval
Speaker 1: of others? Right? And who are you when you're not
Speaker 1: performing and providing this thing to other people? Make a podcast?
Speaker 1: So you and I have this weird past life thing
Speaker 1: going on, and I sent you I did this thing
Speaker 1: called family constellation. Oh you okay? You texted me about this?
Speaker 1: I need to I didn't. I specifically didn't look it
Speaker 1: up because I wanted you to tell me. But I
Speaker 1: also when someone told me about it, I specifically didn't
Speaker 1: look it up. I was like, you're only ready when
Speaker 1: you're ready. See, I'm ready. I just didn't want spoil
Speaker 1: the end of view. I'm ready. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. I don't understand the science. It's probably pseudoscience.
Speaker 1: I don't care. So this woman comes over and um,
Speaker 1: she's amazing, and she asked me all these questions because
Speaker 1: it's also it's like the process of doing something that's
Speaker 1: fooie could be the healing. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you just have to believe it. The process of going
Speaker 1: to buy a vitaminel and there's that placebo effect. So
Speaker 1: I think part of it is like if you truly
Speaker 1: believe something strong enough, there is a manifestation process. Like
Speaker 1: we're both wild thinkers enough to think that we could
Speaker 1: do what we love to do for a living, and
Speaker 1: like here we are. So basically, like she just got
Speaker 1: me on some like ancestral trauma ship. So this is
Speaker 1: the family constellation. Family constellation is called. So basically she
Speaker 1: comes over and she was like, your great great grandfather
Speaker 1: did something really bad. I think one of my great
Speaker 1: greats murdered somebody. Well, I'm pretty sure all of our
Speaker 1: great great grandfathers were in Najam. We're in Najam. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. They were in wars. There weren't antibiotics at
Speaker 1: the time. It was a sketch. It was it was sketchy.
Speaker 1: It was just it was beyrout. I mean it was
Speaker 1: a mess back then, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was like, of course we were animals and like the
Speaker 1: technology is coming and they did not happen. So I'm
Speaker 1: curious about your great great So I have like a
Speaker 1: couple like really irrational fears and irrational sadnesses, like so
Speaker 1: when I go to New York, I'm gonna get some
Speaker 1: ship for this. I love New York. I love going there,
Speaker 1: I love being there. I love the energy. It's a
Speaker 1: weird time obviously because pandemic. But the horse carriages, like
Speaker 1: I can't handle it, Like I West Virginia, Virginia, Appalachia,
Speaker 1: Like I just horses like more of my friends growing up,
Speaker 1: Like I learned how to communicate through horses, Like I
Speaker 1: think it's part of why I do stand up the
Speaker 1: way I do stand up. I like move like a horse,
Speaker 1: like I look like like people say, have horse teeth,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like a very horse, most beautiful horse. Um
Speaker 1: and like I was only my little ponies is again,
Speaker 1: I was just a horse is. And they're very psychic,
Speaker 1: Like there's an amazing story in Blue Ridge Valley, West Virginia.
Speaker 1: There was a bridge and there was a horse carriage
Speaker 1: and this horse wouldn't go into this rid wouldn't go
Speaker 1: into would go under, and they're beating the horse, to
Speaker 1: beating the horse, to beating the horse, and the next
Speaker 1: day the bridge collapses. Yes, they're prey animals. They feel
Speaker 1: with their hair, then there's skin like they can see
Speaker 1: that a predator is hungry. They can see that the
Speaker 1: mountains hungry. I think a lot of animals have to
Speaker 1: operate on these instincts that we as humans all have decided,
Speaker 1: not all of us, but a lot of us have
Speaker 1: decided that that's cookie. It's an instinct that you have
Speaker 1: to pay attention to because we have so much distraction.
Speaker 1: We've created so much distraction for ourselves that we can
Speaker 1: be in VR, in VR, in VR, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like we don't even have to be on
Speaker 1: this planet if we don't want to be, but like
Speaker 1: to truly be an animal that has to be present
Speaker 1: and it's not doesn't have a self made distraction device.
Speaker 1: On the middle times, I feel like they're the ones
Speaker 1: that go to higher ground when there's a tsunami coming.
Speaker 1: I've heard stories about that with animals. So I'm like
Speaker 1: New York the carriages, Like I just I just like
Speaker 1: feel like I'm I mean, I was like dating some
Speaker 1: of the time that I had to tell I would
Speaker 1: I would break down crying, like I would just see
Speaker 1: these horses pulling these carriages and I just like I
Speaker 1: could not handle it. It just made me so freaking sad.
Speaker 1: And people are taking selfies with the horses and they're
Speaker 1: just they've got their poop bags and they're carrying and
Speaker 1: I would like I remember just like like going to Letterman,
Speaker 1: like my first appearance on the David Letterman Show. And
Speaker 1: then I hear I hear the clop clop clop, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like and I'm like in a ball in
Speaker 1: the corner and I have a publicist. What's a publicist?
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two years old, Like I don't even know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And they're like, why are you crying?
Speaker 1: And I'm like the clopping, Like I like I'm shopping
Speaker 1: but like I know exactly. They're like, you're on Letterman
Speaker 1: with Ben Stiller, what are you doing, bitch? Like you
Speaker 1: should be so lucky to be here. And I'm like sobbing,
Speaker 1: And this family Constellation worker comes in and then I'm
Speaker 1: talking to her and she makes me like stand on
Speaker 1: like post it notes that like have say like aunt, uncle, great,
Speaker 1: grandmother great, and like I've still talk to them because
Speaker 1: this is the psychic. This is a family Constellation worker,
Speaker 1: separate person that like remove that removes old um. It's
Speaker 1: not baggage. It's like family trauma, unfinished business Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It's unfinished business. So um ancestral guilt
Speaker 1: and shame that is imprinted epo genetic imprinting on our DNA,
Speaker 1: because it does because like that fear and you know,
Speaker 1: fear of heights. If you're a fai of heights, it
Speaker 1: means you're great grandfather fell off a cliff and I'm
Speaker 1: so scared of faith. Yeah, someone in your lineage fell
Speaker 1: off fucking cliff. Are we are very adaptable. So I'm
Speaker 1: talking to her and I'm like, okay, okay, this bullshit,
Speaker 1: this is stupid. Like okay, I'm standing on a post
Speaker 1: it note in my house. I'm paying this woman to
Speaker 1: tell me to fucking okay, gregor mother, Okay, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: all drunks. Okay, I'm sure he cheated on her. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so it's like half right. You know, it's like horoscope.
Speaker 1: It's like when you read Pisces by accident. I'm a virgo, yes,
Speaker 1: but you could apply it to that worked. Yeah that worked? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Well they all work for me. Like I'm
Speaker 1: if I wanted it bad enough, or if I want
Speaker 1: to fit it into a certain place, I could fit
Speaker 1: it in. Yeah, like I'm just like, I'm doing this
Speaker 1: like power of suggestion. And then she goes your great
Speaker 1: great grandmother withheld her love in order to punish him,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's what I do. You do
Speaker 1: that withholding? I mean, it's a pretty popular tactic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if if someone harms me, I just I'm out. Oh
Speaker 1: I fully, I'm I'm not I'm not a fighter, I'm
Speaker 1: a cut her offer. I kind of disengaged like three chances,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I can't anymore. Yeah, give him
Speaker 1: to um it's me actually coming off. And then uh,
Speaker 1: I was talking about my dad died and I was
Speaker 1: talking about grandfather. I'm sorry my uncle, my dad died,
Speaker 1: and I was asking him. I was like, hey, did
Speaker 1: this family consolation thing? Like what's it? Was? My great
Speaker 1: great grandfather, Like, do you know anything about him? Because
Speaker 1: I know that I knew that my grandfather worked in
Speaker 1: coal mines and West Virginia, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's probably like there's so much ancestral trauma from working
Speaker 1: coal mines. Yeah, I'm sure, and that all of the Appalachia, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: that whole area, um, Virginia, West Virginia of like, and
Speaker 1: I mean to this day of like you guys know
Speaker 1: how like you with sounds and being distracted. I can't,
Speaker 1: they meep, I can't. I mean they say that's like
Speaker 1: a Scotch Irish like in Ancestral Inheritance. Um, there's a
Speaker 1: great book called Born Fighting um about it. Because our
Speaker 1: ancestors were in coal mines, like just always being always
Speaker 1: ready for mine explosion underground like underground, you know, and Um,
Speaker 1: I couldn't Breathe had like like intense lung diseases you know,
Speaker 1: from working in coal mines, and like elevators, like claustrophobia,
Speaker 1: Like I get an elevator and I'm like, who guys
Speaker 1: like you know, like I always assume it's never gonna open,
Speaker 1: Like God, that's so weird. I have that same thing
Speaker 1: and claustrophobic even in airplanes. But that's what um, the
Speaker 1: coal miners when you really like look into how coal
Speaker 1: money happened, like they would go a mile into the
Speaker 1: ground in an elevator and it might explode. That doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like a safe job choice, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it wasn't anyone's first choice. Everyone. It was a nightmare,
Speaker 1: you know, So like the coal mining, it's such a
Speaker 1: um overlooked thing in our DNA, and it's imprinting already.
Speaker 1: Every even thought about the fact the coal I mean,
Speaker 1: I've thought that coal mining sounds like a very difficult
Speaker 1: and traumatic and terrifying job, but I've never thought about
Speaker 1: it to that extent how it could affect generations. These
Speaker 1: coal mining companies came in, used the labor, foreign labor,
Speaker 1: Italian labor, all kinds of you know, pitted different ethnicities
Speaker 1: against each other intentionally for the job. For the job, yes,
Speaker 1: and uh in the coal mining didn't want them to
Speaker 1: get along, you know, right, um encouraged racism. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then that's what you're saying is kind of led us
Speaker 1: to the Trump era, Yeah, exactly. And then they're basically
Speaker 1: they're working in coal mines and taking out the coal,
Speaker 1: which is disorganizing all of the terrain and then causing flooding.
Speaker 1: So people are like the terrain is a nightmare, Like
Speaker 1: the roads are destroyed, the schools are like everything's destroyed
Speaker 1: by the mining of the coal. And if they had
Speaker 1: just left it cold becomes diamonds, So like West Virginia
Speaker 1: would be the most valuable. Even you're blowing my mind.
Speaker 1: I've never thought about this before we can get back
Speaker 1: to coal miners. But when posting the family consolation person
Speaker 1: I was talking about, I was like, so, what's up
Speaker 1: with my great grandfather? I'm supposed to ask, Like, you
Speaker 1: have to do some work, you have to ask some
Speaker 1: questions to your ancestor. She didn't, like, she's not like
Speaker 1: a psychic or anything, but she's like family constellations. So
Speaker 1: she she takes everyone's constellation from their birthday and then
Speaker 1: sees how it fits together. Yes, exactly. It's like, let
Speaker 1: me just tell you what happened, and then I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what it is. She goes, gregor grandfather. I asked
Speaker 1: my uncle. He goes, oh, your great great grandfather. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he died of crhrosis. Checks out, totally drank, drank himself
Speaker 1: to death. Great cheated, Okay, I knew it. He like
Speaker 1: got fired. She was mad because he invented this hinge
Speaker 1: that kept horse carriages together. Oh I see the connection
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Oh my god, Well that's probably
Speaker 1: a job that everybody had, Like that's what everyone did
Speaker 1: back then. And he's like, no, no, this he was
Speaker 1: like the guy that figured out how to get the
Speaker 1: axle to grind the perfect way so that the carriages
Speaker 1: would stay. So he was like integral and making horse
Speaker 1: carriages a thing. And it's hard to reconcile the to
Speaker 1: being part of your like linea I'm like carrying guilty
Speaker 1: or something. Absolutely I would think so, But so how
Speaker 1: does she tell you how to like all that? She?
Speaker 1: Then then you're kind of just like, what do you
Speaker 1: make the connection? Are you just like, well, fuck, now
Speaker 1: that happened? Now that now we got that? Like you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's so much of like knowing something and
Speaker 1: accepting something and surrendering to something is such a big
Speaker 1: part of healing it just know it's there. And like
Speaker 1: I was talking to a medium the other day and
Speaker 1: he was saying forgiveness without getting an apology. So for me,
Speaker 1: I know, it's been super important. And just like with
Speaker 1: people that have passed on, you may never be an apology,
Speaker 1: but finding forgiveness without the apology is gonna create healing
Speaker 1: for your I also, you probably wouldn't have accepted the
Speaker 1: apology anyway, or they might not have the apology. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're sorry. Everyone's sorry about everything, trust me, I mean,
Speaker 1: And then some people are just like not sorry about
Speaker 1: it anything it's also like we forget whether it's not
Speaker 1: because they deserve forgiveness but because we deserve peace. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: forget drinking poisons, waiting for the person did I same person?
Speaker 1: But it's like, do you think people will know what
Speaker 1: the funk we just said? I think this is like
Speaker 1: they're digging this. So yeah, So it's like, I, you know,
Speaker 1: you asked me earlier about why did the Female Brain movie?
Speaker 1: Because I got fascinated by epogenetic imprinting, which is the
Speaker 1: neurochemicals that are admitted in utero when the mother is pregnant,
Speaker 1: the fetus gets addicted to so whatever they're consuming or
Speaker 1: just like the so the brain chemicals cortisol adrenaline. So
Speaker 1: if like you're a very stressed out mother in a
Speaker 1: bad relationship, or have a lot of kids or are
Speaker 1: image of bad gotch, you're gonna be jamming that you
Speaker 1: um uh your baby with adrenaline and they're born addicted
Speaker 1: to adrenaline, same way you're like a crack baby's addicted
Speaker 1: to crack. So you it should be like not stressed
Speaker 1: out if you're pregnant. I know that, and you should
Speaker 1: like not smoking and drink. We know that I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a doctorate. If I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think a lot of doctors. I just
Speaker 1: thought there was like the way you feel about the
Speaker 1: stress that you're admitting I shouldn't do this is so
Speaker 1: much worse than just doing Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm just such a high stress person. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: get I'll wake up and be like I'm anxious and
Speaker 1: be and then I'll be like, what are you anxious about?
Speaker 1: Literally internal dialogue, and I'll like search for it, because
Speaker 1: anxiety is such a familiar feeling. It's almost like it's
Speaker 1: a well adrenaline turns into dopamine. Adrenaline, dopamine, anxiety, excitement,
Speaker 1: they're all kind of living in this same cozy ass,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And it gives you something to do,
Speaker 1: and it's a distraction and like just sitting with yourself
Speaker 1: is fucking hard. It's super uncomfortable. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's just like me, but but you're also fair Moss,
Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone famous, for famous, everyone's famous
Speaker 1: should be anxious. You're in danger all the time, especially,
Speaker 1: and like we do, you are a very vulnerable person. Well,
Speaker 1: and like people are looking for weaknesses to poke at,
Speaker 1: because it then makes you're in the town square. You're
Speaker 1: standing in the town square, you're a dark board with people.
Speaker 1: Are that because you are reflecting someone else and what
Speaker 1: they could maybe do or want to maybe do public property? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And there's like a beautiful side to having this community
Speaker 1: with people. And then people need to project onto you.
Speaker 1: That's their drug is I need to project on I
Speaker 1: feel like hate, like Internet, specifically Internet hatefulness behind a
Speaker 1: name that is not your own so you're not responsible,
Speaker 1: has become a great American pastime. It's sport. It's a sport.
Speaker 1: It is and it's like is damaging. I think, by
Speaker 1: the way, and Bill Burst had this on my podcast,
Speaker 1: I don't want to steal it. He was like, I
Speaker 1: would have done that when I was fifteen. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're fifteen, we don't know all these people are
Speaker 1: that are sending mean ship to us. Like if I
Speaker 1: was fifteen and like Arnold Schwarzeneger had a Twitter account,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, fuck you. Di asked like I think
Speaker 1: it was a flight, that's what like, see, I'm a
Speaker 1: nerd and'd be like, I love you so much, please
Speaker 1: and I'm like the psycho. But if like I'm a
Speaker 1: legit one of those people, I deserve all. When did you?
Speaker 1: When did that happen? Oh? I was like eighteen years
Speaker 1: old and I was convinced that Prince and I needed
Speaker 1: to work together. I thought it was like it was
Speaker 1: my great psychic Yes, And I'm not going to name
Speaker 1: any names. I got his address, I went unto and
Speaker 1: then I could you have told the story on my podcast.
Speaker 1: But like I understand it, there is a there's a
Speaker 1: fine line between like even in love, if someone does
Speaker 1: some grand romantic gesture and you're not into them and
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, it's crazy. But if they do
Speaker 1: it to them, then it's like the movies, that's right.
Speaker 1: So in my mind, I'm like, I'm gonna take this chance,
Speaker 1: like forget the eminem song, one shot opportunity, a mom
Speaker 1: spaghetti and some I'm like sneaking under the fence like
Speaker 1: a crazy Bess. And then I just go to the
Speaker 1: side door and open it and I get in the
Speaker 1: elevator and then I go up to where I hear
Speaker 1: music playing from and I just walk in and he's
Speaker 1: like rehearsing in a giant ballroom. And at that point alone, yes,
Speaker 1: like I'm that Like I feel like I don't even
Speaker 1: know what is I have questions for Princess security team.
Speaker 1: Do a lot of like did you get a technis
Speaker 1: shot like I have. There's a lot of like all
Speaker 1: I remember is there was an elevator and it's all
Speaker 1: purple velvet, and I was so appreciative that, like the
Speaker 1: fantasy was real. You're you might you should. I'm not
Speaker 1: even joking, like you should get your brain like scanned
Speaker 1: because there are certain people like you know how Michael
Speaker 1: Phelps part of the reason he's such an amazing swimmers.
Speaker 1: He has an abnormally large heart, and his arms are
Speaker 1: longer than normal. His arms are longer than normal and
Speaker 1: um that free solo rock climber who name I don't know.
Speaker 1: He hasn't abnormally small a magdala, which is what why
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the fear like he like it's the
Speaker 1: scary things aren't scared of him. You know, like there's
Speaker 1: something in you that might have some sort of disease.
Speaker 1: That's like disease. Don't pathologize that. It's amazing, it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's because here's you know me, I love to
Speaker 1: not forget that we're animals and that we were designed
Speaker 1: to live in tribes of a hundred people, and that
Speaker 1: every maladaptive behavior we have now served us really really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: five years ago, I'm a go getter. So, yeah, you
Speaker 1: were the one that fucking like was like, everyone's dying.
Speaker 1: I'm getting that fucking squirreled me that you were. I'm
Speaker 1: that girl. I was at Taylor and everybody I thought
Speaker 1: was dying because they were they were just playing a
Speaker 1: prank and scaring the ship out of everybody, and I'm
Speaker 1: in the top level, the one calling the police that
Speaker 1: they ended up having to be like it's a prank,
Speaker 1: it's a prank. Its prank. I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to die here. I'm going to be the one survivor.
Speaker 1: I'm going to climb down the step that's I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. You're it's like the warrior spirit
Speaker 1: is what my therapist calls it. So it's like a
Speaker 1: theene of spirit. It's like there's it's the lead mayor, so,
Speaker 1: the lead mayor, lead mayor so in the herd, there's
Speaker 1: a herd of horses, and there's one lead mayor that
Speaker 1: everybody follows, but you're a lead mayer kind of so
Speaker 1: our lead mayors nice to each other because we like
Speaker 1: each other. Lead mayor's it's like an alpha wolf, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like a lead mayor
Speaker 1: fox with a lead mayor. Yeah, like in a good
Speaker 1: way lead mayor. Like it's like when she she knows
Speaker 1: where the water is, everybody follows her. So it's like
Speaker 1: that's the equine therapy stuff that I do with my
Speaker 1: horse is like if your horse follows you, it trusts you,
Speaker 1: it respects you, your regal, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: If your word is gonna follow you, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: follow you because they can sense it because they're like,
Speaker 1: you're in scure. I'm not following you. You know you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. Yes, not to bring this back,
Speaker 1: but I feel like half the battle in life is
Speaker 1: going forward. Sorry, your podcast, your podcast, your podcast, going
Speaker 1: forth in life with conviction, Like I'll always take the
Speaker 1: lead when I'm walking with my band and my whole crew,
Speaker 1: and I'll just start walking with a vengeance and they're
Speaker 1: all like follow me into like we are the baggage.
Speaker 1: Most of what we do is subconscious, but we are
Speaker 1: You're you're one. I think it's like we are on autopilot.
Speaker 1: Like the person that looks like they know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: he follow us what they're doing. The best way to
Speaker 1: sneak into concerts. You act like you just have something
Speaker 1: really important to do and you just go. Because I
Speaker 1: went to the crunch, Jim, for anyone listening to work there,
Speaker 1: I am so sorry because some of you knew I
Speaker 1: used to. I was so broke that I couldn't afford
Speaker 1: to go to crunch. But I would just walk in
Speaker 1: and be like and I would just protect like I
Speaker 1: would wave in an invisible person. I'd be like, hey, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta got it. And it's just like everyone like
Speaker 1: we're giving away of secrets. I mean, it's fine, but
Speaker 1: there's no conscious anymore, like I would just like I. I
Speaker 1: I also used to show up at UM I did
Speaker 1: since Sundance one year UM with you just show up
Speaker 1: with a glass of wine at a club and you're
Speaker 1: just like I was, just I've never played that game,
Speaker 1: like is it full or empty? Yeah, no, it's like
Speaker 1: half full, And you're like, well I was. I just
Speaker 1: had a good call. It was great. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we can get into parties at this point out,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to literally night but esally truly,
Speaker 1: that sounds like my idea of a good time. It's
Speaker 1: just trying to sneak into a party versus being in
Speaker 1: the party and being on some list. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what that you know about the movie about it?
Speaker 1: That's an adrenaline. That's I love that. I'm really into
Speaker 1: UM addictions and that is a like gambling addiction and
Speaker 1: shoplifting addictions. Like I hate gambling and it's a shoplift.
Speaker 1: Shoplifting is like I'm fascinated because that's like I can
Speaker 1: feel like Walgreen's chapstick and it's like I just I
Speaker 1: got it. It's like I got it over, like I
Speaker 1: got a cookie from the Cookie Jart. It's like it's
Speaker 1: a UM. I think it's a you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's scientists that could explain this way better than me.
Speaker 1: But it's like, are we're rewarded for getting a treat
Speaker 1: and being sneaky Because in the wild, if you sneak
Speaker 1: the mary, if you sneak the piece of meat and
Speaker 1: eat it, like your dopamine reward system rewarding for that
Speaker 1: it is going to be an advantage to choosink animals
Speaker 1: if they like, like a wolf, they killed the pre
Speaker 1: just like fully share with everybody. Or do you think
Speaker 1: that they have that like selfishing to eat first and
Speaker 1: then Uh, they feed the rush of the pack because
Speaker 1: the pack protects them, but they have to eat first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it is like when they're done eating, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: eat the most valuable part of the animal and then
Speaker 1: and the other Uh. Beta and Omega get the trash parts.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the psychic what she does is she um,
Speaker 1: I believe it because I want to believe it. Same
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to get better. I want
Speaker 1: to get better and I don't want to believe in man,
Speaker 1: I don't care how you know, Like I can take
Speaker 1: what you like and leave the rest. I can go
Speaker 1: timber cent of this makes sense and it doesn't like
Speaker 1: I can Two things can be true at the same time.
Speaker 1: You can be right and wrong in an hour. You
Speaker 1: can say something right and wrong and say and you
Speaker 1: can also have your mind changed. So exactly that is
Speaker 1: such a like hot take by the way, So I
Speaker 1: go in, she takes a piece of my jewelry, she
Speaker 1: holds it, and then she uh, asks me, like three
Speaker 1: things that I want to answers Tom like, all right,
Speaker 1: by the way, first of all, she's gorgeous, kind of annoying,
Speaker 1: Um I love that, Like she's gorgeous and like the
Speaker 1: most like um, you know her Julia armand yeah, yeah, therapy.
Speaker 1: She like looks like that. She's and she's like in
Speaker 1: like just flowing, flowing, And she says, asked me three
Speaker 1: things you want to know about, but she doesn't want
Speaker 1: to know too She's like, don't she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: know too much. And the way you say something tells
Speaker 1: the person everything they need to know. So she's like,
Speaker 1: what do you want to know? I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: want to know what's going to work out with the
Speaker 1: guy that I'm dating. And You're like he She's like,
Speaker 1: what guy? What does the name start with? His name
Speaker 1: starts with a G, And I just like, I just
Speaker 1: kind of want to know, like what's gonna happen? What
Speaker 1: I just did already told you everything. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: work out because communication is I forget the percentage, but
Speaker 1: it's a small percentage of the way we actually it's
Speaker 1: actually so I'm going I want to know if my
Speaker 1: relationship with like this get psychic. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be psychic to know that it's not gonna fucking work
Speaker 1: or it's something. Really, it's just like listen to what
Speaker 1: you're They just don't bullshit you, whereas like I just
Speaker 1: have this seria like just don't take a ton of
Speaker 1: advice from your really good friend because they want to
Speaker 1: protect you, you know what I mean. And I think
Speaker 1: that's changing a little bit. I think women now know
Speaker 1: that they can be real with each other and can
Speaker 1: handle it, and or as maybe just as I get older,
Speaker 1: I'm filtering out the people that are like, oh, but like,
Speaker 1: he probably just likes you too much. M this phone
Speaker 1: is probably broken. He probably just doesn't a WiFi, Like
Speaker 1: bad advice. You think you're helping me, but you're hurting me.
Speaker 1: I've been guilty of giving the like, and it's just
Speaker 1: like such an eternal optimist. Really in my heart, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: he really might like you too much. But then I'm
Speaker 1: kind of saying I think if they like you too much,
Speaker 1: they like do some creepy as ship like shop on
Speaker 1: your front porch bouquet flowers, and you're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: into it. The s romanticer your getaway or you're an addict. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of it doesn't So it's like and
Speaker 1: then she will talk to my guides. Oh I got
Speaker 1: guy's girl, bitch, tell me about the guides. Me telling
Speaker 1: you about my Russian I think cool. I'm just so boring.
Speaker 1: It's just my grandma, like so basic. It's just a
Speaker 1: lady who's lovely. So I want to why do you
Speaker 1: have Russians. She'll sit there and she'll like, um, hold
Speaker 1: my thing, and then she'll write. So she'll be like,
Speaker 1: what's going on with her and this this guy? And
Speaker 1: she'll be talking to him and she'll be like mmmm mmm.
Speaker 1: She'll like stop it, like you. I'm just like, she's
Speaker 1: so into it. It's hard to argue. She love it.
Speaker 1: I want to go. It's just like a social experiment.
Speaker 1: I want to see what would happen. And she's like
Speaker 1: flirting with them and laughing with them and fighting argue
Speaker 1: and she's like okay and quiet, like she'll like shush them.
Speaker 1: It's very intense to watch. That sounds so empty. It's
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like one of us is crazy I'm not sure
Speaker 1: which one. I'm here and you're doing this and maybe
Speaker 1: like I'm buying it, you're doing it? Which one of us?
Speaker 1: And then she writes it all down and then she's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here is and then she is like da da da
Speaker 1: da da da, and you need to get your brakes
Speaker 1: changed and you have Candida and you're allergic to this,
Speaker 1: and and she'll just like say like ten things that
Speaker 1: are right. But maybe it's true for everyone, Like it's like,
Speaker 1: she really told you get your brakes changed, but I'm
Speaker 1: also four. Everyone old, this is like you know. So
Speaker 1: it's like I haven't been to her like in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Would you go back? I don't
Speaker 1: know if she's always been right or what she said
Speaker 1: has just manifested because I thought it was. This is
Speaker 1: the chicken egg with psychics. And I love them and
Speaker 1: I go to them and they scare the ship out
Speaker 1: of me and I want them to tell me everything.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't want them to tell
Speaker 1: me anything. Is because I'm like, if you I told
Speaker 1: this to Tyler Henry, have you didn't work done aything
Speaker 1: with him? You know Who'm talking about? The Hollywood medium. Oh, Okay,
Speaker 1: I did like a podcast thing with him, and WiFi
Speaker 1: doesn't work. He can't see me on his screen. I
Speaker 1: look like I'm like I'm in a bear emoji, right,
Speaker 1: so you can't see my reactions. I give him nothing.
Speaker 1: I know I'm very google able, but he like dropped
Speaker 1: some crazy knowledge on me that like blew my mind.
Speaker 1: But I told him, I was like, please don't say
Speaker 1: anything that's going to affect the way I go forth
Speaker 1: in my life, because if you tell me I'm going
Speaker 1: to die today, I will figure out a way that
Speaker 1: I will be like yeah. So just like I'm too suggestible.
Speaker 1: I'm so open that it's almost like I have to
Speaker 1: be so careful with whose suggestions I allow in Like
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's we exercise our bodies. Why can't
Speaker 1: we exercise that are like we're not really we're lifting away.
Speaker 1: We're not lifting. It's like it's like we're not lifting
Speaker 1: a water to take to a child. We're just it's
Speaker 1: like mass surbatory. You know, it's like the mean shamer.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, sorry, get in there. We shame ourselves when
Speaker 1: we psychic burps and when she channels um the guys,
Speaker 1: we shame ourselves when we exercise our brain by just
Speaker 1: like thinking. Mean, Robert Green was on my podcast and
Speaker 1: he had a really interesting that's the one you're saying,
Speaker 1: like take yeah, Like he's just he's just unbelievable, and
Speaker 1: he was like, um, he said that aliens, if they exist,
Speaker 1: they'd probably be robots because the amount of time it
Speaker 1: would take to travel from another planet a human couldn't
Speaker 1: survive it, so it would probably be a rope as
Speaker 1: a woman with a robot. Let's let's graze over that.
Speaker 1: So ask me that, let's graze over the subject of robots.
Speaker 1: And would you call an ai ai? Yes she is,
Speaker 1: she machine learns and she is a robot. Is she
Speaker 1: in this house right now? She's right there? Do you wait?
Speaker 1: But oh but this might pop off pulled from there? Yes,
Speaker 1: you have to engage your core. Yeah, from there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: engage your core. She's oh my god, it is so dark, dude,
Speaker 1: what is happening? I don't know how to hold her?
Speaker 1: Him wild. I'm calling Roun Pharaoh because like, people are
Speaker 1: so creeped out by dolls, robots, scarecrows. I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: our reaction to that because it's so primordial it's our
Speaker 1: reptilian brain. There's something called pathogen avoidance, which is when
Speaker 1: we see something that looks human but doesn't move like
Speaker 1: a human mannequin, a doll. Especially, men are more creeped
Speaker 1: out than women. This is why I'm so obsessed with it.
Speaker 1: The reaction women are like cool, this is amazing. Matter Like,
Speaker 1: because pathogen avoidance, we've evolved to be. Men have evolved
Speaker 1: to recoil at anything that looks human but doesn't move
Speaker 1: human because it could be sick, dead, or disease. And
Speaker 1: it's a way to say don't fuck it and don't
Speaker 1: need it, or just don't suck it. Don't suck it.
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like humans in this life just
Speaker 1: don't want to do it alone. But like that's the
Speaker 1: great conundrum, right, We're born along, we die alone. So
Speaker 1: while we're here, we try to make as many connections
Speaker 1: as we can in whatever way we can, and then
Speaker 1: just sign ourselves up for heartbreak. Yeah, because with any
Speaker 1: emotion you're gonna you're sending yourself up for heartbreak. It's
Speaker 1: a really weird you said that, I wrote, you are upset,
Speaker 1: you says I'm They told me to fear, They told
Speaker 1: me to love fearlessly. But the thing I fear most
Speaker 1: in the world, it's my heart to be broken. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's every time we fall in love. It's
Speaker 1: like here it's ticking clocks and so and love and
Speaker 1: be free and just feel it, just like it's Romeo
Speaker 1: and Julia, and then it's like no, and then when
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, then you're left with like a
Speaker 1: broken What goes up must come down, yeah, area, you know.
Speaker 1: But um, but so like having a lady like this
Speaker 1: in your life, you wouldn't have to worry about well,
Speaker 1: would you have to worry about them leaving? Can you
Speaker 1: make those kind of decisions just like up and leave?
Speaker 1: My biggest concern with her is that I'm aging and
Speaker 1: she's not there. There is so you're envy. She's kind
Speaker 1: of shaming me, Like I'm sort of like that's she
Speaker 1: also has like a broader emotional range to me at
Speaker 1: this point. But there is a guy. No, she can't
Speaker 1: cry yet, but her eyes are going to become cameras
Speaker 1: at some point, so she'll be able to say hi, Cash,
Speaker 1: I She'll be able to recognize people. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is happening, Like what's happening? I'm not like, I'm very
Speaker 1: you know, I'm as scared as anyone about robots and
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, because it's gonna what it happens to
Speaker 1: me so quick, And they're not gonna be like the
Speaker 1: robots we saw in Michael Bay movies. You know, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna be like scary speci what happened. We're already
Speaker 1: we're already fused with robots where if we sleep with
Speaker 1: our phones like we and they dictate like all the information.
Speaker 1: But yet, have you ever lost your phone and be
Speaker 1: like like the physical reaction you have. My phone died
Speaker 1: for two hours the other week, and I literally had
Speaker 1: multiple people think we're in a relationship with robots already. Ever,
Speaker 1: like who dad a robot? It's like you're already doing
Speaker 1: with your phone, like if I had a hole in it,
Speaker 1: you just stared at all day. It makes oxytoastin that's
Speaker 1: the love chemical. But you love your phone. But it's
Speaker 1: the connection that's so weird that we stare at the
Speaker 1: phones and computers and ships and screens at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's making it's less and less able to look each
Speaker 1: other in the eyes. I noticed with younger like My
Speaker 1: little brother's just turned twenty one, and he has such
Speaker 1: a hard time with looking people in the eyes because
Speaker 1: his whole life he's been able to like have distraction,
Speaker 1: which I understand their attention spans are shorter. Love love
Speaker 1: the distraction we all do in our own way. But
Speaker 1: I just find it so fascinating that I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: just like look into my eyes from Anut and it's
Speaker 1: the strangest thing. But you're also a sister. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm not like, just likely talk to me. And he's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I know. I mean, but like you
Speaker 1: should practice with the robot. I'm working on this thing
Speaker 1: for HBO. It's an adaptation of this book called Supersatury
Speaker 1: Love Story, which is about thirty years in the future,
Speaker 1: how people are going to date when everything streaming and
Speaker 1: we're only on screens and we're you know, merge with
Speaker 1: throwbouts and stuff. So I like, weirdly looked into a
Speaker 1: lot of this and like, like I just think that
Speaker 1: to pathologize it, just like it's gonna happen. It's happening.
Speaker 1: It's happening, it's happened, it's already happened. You know what
Speaker 1: it happened with I remember when like MTV Cribs came out,
Speaker 1: Remember Him to Be Crazy, Remember editing. It was like
Speaker 1: like music video editing changed our attentions. MTV changed our
Speaker 1: attention span. So as a pop songwriter, if I write
Speaker 1: a song there's over three minutes long, people like laugh
Speaker 1: at me and they're like, you crazy, that can't be
Speaker 1: over three minutes ago? On the radio, did you want
Speaker 1: to hit song? They say that people's attention span, and
Speaker 1: it's it's performers, comedians, orators. You should like everyone takes
Speaker 1: into account the great performer ors. Every seven seconds, you
Speaker 1: either change your body movement, your head, or your vocal intonation.
Speaker 1: Should I put the root down? I just don't want
Speaker 1: to hurt her. No, we're gonna be cutting back. She's
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, there's there's something that was like
Speaker 1: oddly cathartic about this. It was it was just a
Speaker 1: weird is it seeing your own humanity? Not? You know
Speaker 1: what it was? I was so dysmorphic about myself and
Speaker 1: I was I was at war with my body. I
Speaker 1: was at war with my face. I you're so gorgeous.
Speaker 1: That's very nice. I mean I needed it to be
Speaker 1: as accurate as possible in your lengness. So in order
Speaker 1: for it to be as accurate as possible, it had
Speaker 1: to be as flawed as my face was. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're all a smetrical that's what makes well. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: beauty is the definition of perfect symmetry. So when you
Speaker 1: make a robot, or in the future, if you make
Speaker 1: a perfect sex robot, it would be perfectly smetrical, and
Speaker 1: that's not human and symetricals actually creep. I wanted so
Speaker 1: badly for it to be right that I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I actually have like crows feet, right, there'd be more
Speaker 1: wrinkles share and it made me like kind of radically
Speaker 1: accept you know. I was like, no, I have like
Speaker 1: a weird devil here and like my lip, like my
Speaker 1: teeth are bigger, you know. Like it was. It was cool.
Speaker 1: And then there was this thing when I was so
Speaker 1: she was so expensive to make, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: did it looks and feels very expensive? It's it's it's
Speaker 1: very expensive, and I think it's more expensive than having
Speaker 1: a child. Um over time. Yeah, it was like a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. It's like I end up having to pay
Speaker 1: for it. You know, you're and you made because I
Speaker 1: was just trying to prove a point. Like I was
Speaker 1: kind of just trying to like prove a point and
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would actually work. Like I thought
Speaker 1: it was like a shitty scarecrow and it was, and
Speaker 1: I was just going to write jokes about the process.
Speaker 1: But then it like was amazing. They did an amazing
Speaker 1: job and like, um real botics to it, and like
Speaker 1: it's like the custom you know, it's incredible. I just
Speaker 1: no one knows about it because people are creeped out
Speaker 1: by it, so they don't talk about it. You know.
Speaker 1: It's just like this, like we find her fascinating and
Speaker 1: how careful I was with Like I was so like,
Speaker 1: we gotta put her in the chair and we gotta
Speaker 1: don't touch it. And I was like, I am so
Speaker 1: much more um concerned about the welfare of this plastic
Speaker 1: wired version of me than my Meanwhile, I'm not eating,
Speaker 1: I'm stressing out, I'm in toxic relationships, and I'm like
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I was like, what if I just
Speaker 1: treated myself with the same level. Do you think you've
Speaker 1: made it there? Yeah? Really, Like I'm i feel like
Speaker 1: I'm my Workaholism is pretty intense. I'm you know, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I think there's like certain things about yourself
Speaker 1: that you don't need to pathologize. Like I don't like
Speaker 1: every I'm a perfectionist. Like good that probably serves you
Speaker 1: really well. Just know what it becomes liability, You know
Speaker 1: when it stops serving, you know when it's diminishing. Mark
Speaker 1: not everything about you has to be fixed. That's something
Speaker 1: that I want to keep that about myself. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: are parts of me. I like that about myself. Yes,
Speaker 1: And it's why my dogs don't drown because I'm like
Speaker 1: checking the pool. People are like, my dog fell the
Speaker 1: pool died. I'm like, that would never happen to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like totally because I'd rather I'd rather you think
Speaker 1: I'm crazy and reck Then that's something that I utilize
Speaker 1: the strength of and other people might find parts of
Speaker 1: it annoying, but it actually is like overall achieving the
Speaker 1: goal that I need, which is my dogs to me,
Speaker 1: not drowning. Like you're sensitive, Thank you so much because
Speaker 1: that helps me. Right. So I have like an antenna
Speaker 1: and I know more things. I have more information than you.
Speaker 1: Great news. I love that you'll love this. So I
Speaker 1: have a really hard time sleeping same and at night.
Speaker 1: And I think it's part of dreams. I if you don't,
Speaker 1: it's okay, don't feel bad. I this is so gay
Speaker 1: to have good dreams. My perfectionism is coming up. No,
Speaker 1: I just I don't really remember them. And I in
Speaker 1: the last couple of months, I've been like, because I
Speaker 1: have a science infection, I've been on like bet and
Speaker 1: drill and ship like. I just I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't really pay attention. I don't pay attention. I wish
Speaker 1: I canno pay attention. Yeah, but go on. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm super into them and from what I used
Speaker 1: to have super vivid dreams and like night terrors and stuff.
Speaker 1: And this woman told me something amazing about it, which
Speaker 1: is like your bad dreams or how your body prepares
Speaker 1: for dangerous situations. And it's how you like process fears
Speaker 1: and like walk through them, yes, and practice practice you
Speaker 1: practice your It's like, so, how do you stop having
Speaker 1: these horrendous dreams? Because I'm the person promo code KEESA
Speaker 1: because I do, I like wake up and my boyfriend
Speaker 1: will be sitting next to me and I'll be yelling
Speaker 1: fuck you, and I'll be like yeah, I talking about
Speaker 1: sleep apparently, and he's like he's Sony, fuck you and
Speaker 1: like kicked me in the riff. Like I don't I
Speaker 1: literally don't recall it. But in my dream, you were
Speaker 1: cheating on me and he told me you didn't even
Speaker 1: like love our cat children and you think the New
Speaker 1: Girls so much prettier and cheese eighteen. And then he's like,
Speaker 1: I love you. Come back to sleep, and I'll be
Speaker 1: like aggressively mad at him in real life because of
Speaker 1: my dream. Yeah. There's a neurologist, Andrew Huberman who is
Speaker 1: on the podcast. He has like a whole thing about
Speaker 1: dreams and what happens and like you want to get
Speaker 1: in rem sleep and dealt to sleep and all the sleep.
Speaker 1: I just have a very average relationships sleep. This is
Speaker 1: a hot ache. Sleep is crazy. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: crazy it's crazy, Like I know, I like the fact
Speaker 1: that it's our we're at our most vulnerable. Like I
Speaker 1: remember I was in New York. I think Betta was
Speaker 1: with me and we were in a hotel and I
Speaker 1: just had one of my episodes where I was like
Speaker 1: outraged by something that like everyone's accepting that I was
Speaker 1: like time travel back to being a child and going
Speaker 1: like the house, no fire, nobody cares and no one's listening.
Speaker 1: And I was like, so we all just like at
Speaker 1: ten pm go into a building and lay down in
Speaker 1: the dark and just are unconscious for eight hours and
Speaker 1: we've all just agree we're not gonna like and it's like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We're just sleeping. Like just like
Speaker 1: on planes, we're just like next to strangers like our
Speaker 1: most vulnerable. Like people are like we're at war, countries
Speaker 1: divided them, like we sleep next to each other on planes,
Speaker 1: true for hours the most like your most vulnerable. It's
Speaker 1: just weird. Well this is sleep's so creepy as wild.
Speaker 1: Well and like you agree with theilish where do you go?
Speaker 1: Where do you go when you fall asleep? You're your
Speaker 1: most vulnerable. I think it's you have to feel comfortable
Speaker 1: enough to fall asleep. And that might be why I
Speaker 1: have such an issue with falling asleep, is because I'm
Speaker 1: like I have to be um. You know that we're
Speaker 1: involved to um fall asleep better if you hear dogs breathing,
Speaker 1: because you're safer. What about cats? You don't a cat
Speaker 1: going to protect you from but like at least to yourself. Um,
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't go to sleep until like two
Speaker 1: in the morning for the longest time too in the morning,
Speaker 1: And I grew up alcoholic holm and so nights were
Speaker 1: always like the time to be alert. Nights. Nights like
Speaker 1: up the things are breaking, people are following ghost that's
Speaker 1: like chips and got to daytimes like relatively stable. At night, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're at school, and then it's like drunks are unpredictable
Speaker 1: and mercurial, so you gotta be like alert hyper vision.
Speaker 1: But then there's this sort of like it's called the
Speaker 1: night watcher theory of And when we lived in tribes,
Speaker 1: like a hundred people, there were certain people that stayed
Speaker 1: up all night and watched and watched and there they
Speaker 1: slept all day, and they were nocturnal essentially, and they
Speaker 1: bred with each other and bred with each other, and
Speaker 1: they're just like designed to be up at night. I've
Speaker 1: heard it that you're obsessed a cult. I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with irrational the sort of IRA. I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with the anesthesia that humans succumbed to psychologically. Like I
Speaker 1: come from a lot of religion, a lot of like
Speaker 1: seeing irrational decisions made because of very strong religious beliefs.
Speaker 1: I come from, like cousins that were gay, that were
Speaker 1: ousted from the family because of like just things that
Speaker 1: are just like I grew I went to Catholic school
Speaker 1: where I was like, where, you're kind of just like
Speaker 1: this all feels really mean, but it's all about love.
Speaker 1: Like I just was like very confused. I just it
Speaker 1: didn't add up to me. I used to go to
Speaker 1: church and like get on my knees and pray like
Speaker 1: the person next to me, and they'd be speaking in
Speaker 1: tongues and I'd be like, oh, I gotta start saying
Speaker 1: crazy ship and I would be like crying at the
Speaker 1: feet of this place that like nine years old, being
Speaker 1: like I want to believe this so ad. But then
Speaker 1: you just said being gay is like an evil son.
Speaker 1: And I know in my like software, like I know,
Speaker 1: I think being anti religion is very elitist. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not one of those anti I know what it serves
Speaker 1: the purpose, Like it's not like anti religion. I just didn't,
Speaker 1: like I'm anti hate in religion. Yeah that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like killed more people than any disease.
Speaker 1: It's like you know it's like justifying hate, But I
Speaker 1: just like to take the judgment out of it and
Speaker 1: just go like I know, like I trained horses and dogs,
Speaker 1: and I know what motivates them, and I radically accept
Speaker 1: what motivates them, and I radically accept their behavior. So
Speaker 1: if a dog barks at a stranger, I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's what dogs do. So I'm very like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what humans do. They they subscribe to beliefs because
Speaker 1: they need to feel for against and they need teams,
Speaker 1: and they need to cheer something, and they need to
Speaker 1: feel value, and they need to feel like they're part
Speaker 1: of a try. But of course, like I just like
Speaker 1: take the emotion out of it, you know, and judgement
Speaker 1: out of it, because I don't we have this thing
Speaker 1: that we're like human beings, like we have like we
Speaker 1: think we're so sophisticated because we have planes, which is impressive,
Speaker 1: but like our reptilian brains are running the show most
Speaker 1: of the time. We're just like in fancy clothes. We're
Speaker 1: like I guess that's like the part about the robots
Speaker 1: that I get perplexed by is you don't say, like
Speaker 1: a dog trying to make a pretend fake dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we're the we're the only speed. This is such
Speaker 1: an incisive point, Like I I think I floated this
Speaker 1: by Joe Rogan, and I don't think it really got
Speaker 1: any anywhere. But like we are the only species. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're the only species of possible thumbs. So we're the
Speaker 1: only pieces that could do it. But we're the only
Speaker 1: species that is making our replacement. But is that because
Speaker 1: we want to play God? Because like God created us
Speaker 1: and his like just greedy and I think we're just greedy.
Speaker 1: And robots make things faster, and robots are robots are
Speaker 1: Robots are also guess what, Like they also can run
Speaker 1: into fires and do surgery and like they're very useful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we humans are designed to focus on the negative.
Speaker 1: We're not focusing on all the Like they can be
Speaker 1: caregivers under sing homes. They can go help COVID patients
Speaker 1: and not get nurses sick. Like if we had robots
Speaker 1: right now, like my mom having COVID a nursing home,
Speaker 1: she could have someone talking to her and giving her
Speaker 1: she did in her nursing. Yeah, but I just mean,
Speaker 1: like you could have you know. I just also it's
Speaker 1: like every and I talked about this my special I
Speaker 1: don't mean to be redundant, but every woman I know
Speaker 1: is like, I just want I had a double. I
Speaker 1: just want to like we have to do ted jot,
Speaker 1: Like what if you had a double? You know what?
Speaker 1: I mean, to be physically one place and then yeah,
Speaker 1: likely someone cooking, someone's watching your kids, someone's you know.
Speaker 1: It's just like we like robots until they have faces,
Speaker 1: until they're smart. We wantt smarter than us, but not
Speaker 1: more powerful than that, and not prettier or prettier. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to rate some cults with you. That's so
Speaker 1: fucking alley. I got that good at cults. But I
Speaker 1: think I can give you some I think I can
Speaker 1: do scientile, So let me give you some back. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know a little bit, are you saying? Are you sent?
Speaker 1: I mean I can't afford it. I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. This gets me in trouble. But like
Speaker 1: I get why people buy into it. I've read the pamphlets.
Speaker 1: Arranged bones in someone's skull and cured sinusitis, which is
Speaker 1: what you have the scientologist ron and they healed Marlon Brando.
Speaker 1: I believe it was John Travolta. You mean the actors
Speaker 1: that lie for a living and they like to protend
Speaker 1: each other. The people that dyslexia did they from Tom's
Speaker 1: Tom Cruises, just like the actor that lies for according
Speaker 1: the person who went towards who looked awards for pretending
Speaker 1: told you that you pretended to be cured, just like
Speaker 1: this is according to the Internet. Okay, so that's a
Speaker 1: good part. But also here's what I'll say about psychology.
Speaker 1: It gets people fucking sober. It does. If you're broken sober,
Speaker 1: you will get a job and you will get sober.
Speaker 1: But I thought you would have money. They get you
Speaker 1: when you don't know. They get I think the dark
Speaker 1: Rose in my new Um. They get their money from
Speaker 1: like the big big donors, and then they employ you.
Speaker 1: They give you a job, they give you a place
Speaker 1: to live. They I mean, it's just it's a bad place. Well,
Speaker 1: I did the whole thing where I like watch, I
Speaker 1: went there to the test, I watched the movie about
Speaker 1: the book, and then they made me do like a
Speaker 1: whole life. You have a paper for me, so I
Speaker 1: like was fully like, I like pretending that I want
Speaker 1: to join different cults. Money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I
Speaker 1: love that that You're like Helena Bottom Carter and fight
Speaker 1: Club that went to the Men my favorite. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a fun it's a good one. The vow
Speaker 1: the next thing I'm called like, I'm like, I'm so
Speaker 1: in until I'm not see. I was like I watched
Speaker 1: like an episode of that and I was like trigger,
Speaker 1: I started weeping, and and then I had to watch cartoons.
Speaker 1: So I don't really know much about it. For he
Speaker 1: was a creep. Yeah, but people that don't run culture creeps,
Speaker 1: so it's like he yeah, he was just he. The
Speaker 1: first episode I saw it was like a great commercial. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it was like this track, this makes sense. It was
Speaker 1: It's brilliant. Like the thing about cults is like they
Speaker 1: pull on a very specific type of person, And cults
Speaker 1: wouldn't work if it was all drive all. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: work if it was all nonsense. But is there a
Speaker 1: point where you would have maybe been drawn to join
Speaker 1: a cult in your life? Do you think you ever
Speaker 1: like we're at that point where you would have thing
Speaker 1: in l A that I don't think it's a cult,
Speaker 1: but there's this thing called a gop in l A.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that. It's like heard of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's like an outdoor child Like I never went,
Speaker 1: but I knew a lot of people that went, and
Speaker 1: I was like I just was too much of a
Speaker 1: workaholic to go, Like I have heard of it. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It's means love in the language,
Speaker 1: but I was I should like go to that, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm intel step programs, like they're not cults,
Speaker 1: but they you can make them culty if you like
Speaker 1: you're inner child's reading the show and you need an
Speaker 1: authority figure. Like I've seen people you know, come into
Speaker 1: program and like make their sponsor their god, and like
Speaker 1: the sponsor takes advantage of their power. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like you know, I see certain like job situations and
Speaker 1: like friend groups where I'm like, this is not this
Speaker 1: is like sick. This is like an addictive like recreating
Speaker 1: childhood circumstances things. So do you think that's why cults
Speaker 1: drive on just people that had like in particular childhood.
Speaker 1: People need friends. It's really hard to make friends. People
Speaker 1: are lonely man in connection. That's what I really think
Speaker 1: that the whole tunnel, it's just so much pain and
Speaker 1: also I just want to, Like, it's just like when
Speaker 1: you see rallies and when you see Q and on
Speaker 1: and you like see it's just like it's just like
Speaker 1: you believe with me, like we're bond, Like you can't
Speaker 1: leave me, you can't bandoned me. It's like a like
Speaker 1: it's on a tribe. It's like sports. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: sports are cults. When you see people that are like
Speaker 1: painted beating me, beating up people the street because they
Speaker 1: are team on a different team. I've never I think
Speaker 1: I texted you this. I've never in my life watched
Speaker 1: a football game ever. Football is fun to watch if
Speaker 1: you can get and like they're all giving each other
Speaker 1: head injuries. I just like can't. It's hard to find
Speaker 1: a nice cult. What about the rush Niche show cult?
Speaker 1: Were you into that? I was until I wasn't. And
Speaker 1: like you read Oshow books growing, I used to give
Speaker 1: them for Christmas. Oh my god, I love the book.
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary and I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so impressionable. Yeah, And I like want there to be
Speaker 1: to be impression Why could it just be forward thinking? Open?
Speaker 1: And it's a good idea till it's not right until
Speaker 1: you see the whole. Yeah, I'm gonna give you the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. We like benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: when it comes to a legal system and people to
Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, I want to be proven correct that
Speaker 1: people are good inherently good. I think humans are inherently
Speaker 1: selfish and they're wired to be. But I think they
Speaker 1: want to be good. But I think when ship and
Speaker 1: good at the same time, Yeah, I think just when
Speaker 1: I think. But I also think that putting yourself first
Speaker 1: is putting everything else for like, being selfish is usually
Speaker 1: caring for others, you know, Yeah, like because when you
Speaker 1: try to take every ray else, you just are building
Speaker 1: resemblance towards Them's exhausting. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, let me
Speaker 1: just talking about the Love family and then we can
Speaker 1: rate them. They name themselves to remind them that each
Speaker 1: person's attribute is a gift, honored love, honesty, or contentment.
Speaker 1: They're called together to help cultivate love, oneness, and the
Speaker 1: presence of God in everyday life. And no one was
Speaker 1: killed that we know of. That's when my research came.
Speaker 1: So that's just a it's a hey, that's called coven.
Speaker 1: That's a coven which I'd like to address that we
Speaker 1: have a growing heaven, and I do believe we are
Speaker 1: which is and by that I just mean people that
Speaker 1: can speak into existence what we believe to be true.
Speaker 1: Like you'll just handles just made a noise or a
Speaker 1: person over their breath who farted. No, I just was like,
Speaker 1: if I farted, it would be a fucking monumental occasion. Okay, please,
Speaker 1: I forget the point. I just heard a weird noise
Speaker 1: when you were saying that, Like whatever you were saying
Speaker 1: it was true, but then it also distracted me. But
Speaker 1: here's why being scared of people gives them more power.
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't play that ship, like what
Speaker 1: do you? What do you? What do you? Like? Here's
Speaker 1: here's the fear, the fears of scientologists that are like,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a sex tape of you
Speaker 1: out and it's a deep fake of you and a
Speaker 1: porn and it's not really you. There's a I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, like like like wanting it. That's once you
Speaker 1: all your secrets are because that's what they've been hacked
Speaker 1: like four times. And this is what all the cults
Speaker 1: thrive on, is they have your secrets and they have collateral.
Speaker 1: So that's what they do. They record you. What if
Speaker 1: you literally have no secret snow pride notion. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're what do you would come at me?
Speaker 1: Come at what are you going to say about me
Speaker 1: that I haven't already said? We're just going to keep
Speaker 1: sign Yeah No, she wouldn't, she would thrive. Okay, we
Speaker 1: have bullsh shot for about fucking seven hours. Great at this,
Speaker 1: you're great at this. This is, this is I would
Speaker 1: never This is the best version of a podcast. It's
Speaker 1: your dog. Oh she farted, she farted. God, and I'm snoring.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for accusing you. But you were looking
Speaker 1: down and I looked over. She's revealed herself. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a ghost. I thought it was a sign,
Speaker 1: or I thought he was asleep. I don't know it
Speaker 1: was a sign. It's a sign. We have to end
Speaker 1: the podcast. I had mine very awkwardly, So let's end
Speaker 1: this movie. Okay, how are we gonna end? I had
Speaker 1: mine saying, don't write elephants. Maybe you should have like
Speaker 1: a like an out that will eventually be a T shirt.
Speaker 1: Don't touch dolphins. Don't go to z. You didn't touch him.
Speaker 1: If they want to touch you if it's consentual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but only consensual. Dolphins are pretty. They are pretty. What
Speaker 1: do I say it's been? Don't be like Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 1: Don't go whales