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Speaker 1: Kesha and the Creepies is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm as scared as anyone about robots and

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, because it's gonna what it happens to

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Speaker 1: me so quick, and they're not gonna be like, they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be like scary speci what happened. We're already

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Speaker 1: fused with robots where if we sleep with our phones.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever lost your phone and be like like

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Speaker 1: the physical reaction you have? My phone died for two

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Speaker 1: hours the other week and I literally had multiple people

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Speaker 1: think I died. We're in a relationship with robots already.

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Speaker 1: Everyone like, who dad a robot? It's like you're already

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Speaker 1: doing with your phone. So are you psychic? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think everything your podcast. Welcome to my podcast. You

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Speaker 1: just witnessed my greats I cack abilities in real time.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Kesha and the Creepies. Please welcome Whitney. They'll

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Speaker 1: be spooky sounds here. Okay, yes, I do fancy myself psychic,

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Speaker 1: but I think everyone has that ability. How so, I

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Speaker 1: think it's about listening to your intuition, which is such

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Speaker 1: like a roll your eyes googly bogly thing. To say

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Speaker 1: to most people. But I feel like you're on the

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Speaker 1: same page with me. That like if you really tap

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Speaker 1: into your gut, like if you get underneath the fear

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Speaker 1: and you get underneath trauma, and you get like underneath

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Speaker 1: all that, your body has reactions, whether they come out

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Speaker 1: in dreams. For me, it's in dreams or like sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'll just like see something and then I'll be like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's the truth, and then I'll get a call three

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Speaker 1: months later it's like, Oh, your ex boyfriend's fucking back, girl,

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Speaker 1: And I knew that I need that. Everybody knows everything

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Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, that's fascinating. I it's weird. It's

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Speaker 1: like I went to a psychic. There's just one psyche

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Speaker 1: I used to it to all the time. Did you

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Speaker 1: go once a year to the same woman or no? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And it's weird because she is like a mirror, you know.

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Speaker 1: She would basically would just be like, Okay, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to tell you what you're telling me. You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. It's kind of like what we just did.

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Speaker 1: Like Gavin de Becker, who is like the number one

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Speaker 1: security guy in um like celebrity Land, Hollywood World, he

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Speaker 1: says every woman that was like assaulted or had something

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Speaker 1: horrible happened to them. They always said in there like

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Speaker 1: post interview or whatever you call it, I knew it.

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Speaker 1: I knew there was something off about that guy. I

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Speaker 1: just fucking knew it. Well, just your gut will tell

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Speaker 1: you someone. But he offered to carry my groceries, like

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Speaker 1: he came. We've been so trained to not listen to

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Speaker 1: our gut. We've been so pathologized to go, you're crazy,

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Speaker 1: your psycho sensitive emotional? Yeah, those are you in your period?

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Speaker 1: Do you? I was gonna say ib s, but I

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Speaker 1: thought I U d on the brain. I was like,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's just dismissing. It's just uncomfortable for other

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Speaker 1: people to have emotions and intuition too because you say

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Speaker 1: something that's like, oh yeah, I know that. It's just

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Speaker 1: like it's too freaky. And that's what the whole podcast

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Speaker 1: about is talking about, just like things are a little freaky,

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Speaker 1: but also might broaden your perspective of what's possible, so

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Speaker 1: you can go anywhere from like tell me the craziest

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Speaker 1: ghost story you have, or like to psychic stuff or

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Speaker 1: just like existentially, how do you feel on this earth

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Speaker 1: when you like especially during this crazy time. I've had

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Speaker 1: a lot of self reflecting and alone time, which is

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Speaker 1: weird for me, and not going, going, going, going, Like,

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Speaker 1: who are you when you're not constantly chasing the approval

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Speaker 1: of others? Right? And who are you when you're not

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Speaker 1: performing and providing this thing to other people? Make a podcast?

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Speaker 1: So you and I have this weird past life thing

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Speaker 1: going on, and I sent you I did this thing

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Speaker 1: called family constellation. Oh you okay? You texted me about this?

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Speaker 1: I need to I didn't. I specifically didn't look it

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Speaker 1: you're ready. See, I'm ready. I just didn't want spoil

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Speaker 1: the end of view. I'm ready. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it is. I don't understand the science. It's probably pseudoscience.

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Speaker 1: we're both wild thinkers enough to think that we could

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Speaker 1: the family constellation. Family constellation is called. So basically she

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Speaker 1: comes over and she was like, your great great grandfather

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Speaker 1: great great grandfathers were in Najam. We're in Najam. Let's

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Speaker 1: when I go to New York, I'm gonna get some

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Speaker 1: weird time obviously because pandemic. But the horse carriages, like

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Speaker 1: Like there's an amazing story in Blue Ridge Valley, West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty two years old, Like I don't even know

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Speaker 1: And this family Constellation worker comes in and then I'm

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Speaker 1: not baggage. It's like family trauma, unfinished business Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: he follow us what they're doing. The best way to

421
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: sneak into concerts. You act like you just have something

422
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: really important to do and you just go. Because I

423
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: went to the crunch, Jim, for anyone listening to work there,

424
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: I am so sorry because some of you knew I

425
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: used to. I was so broke that I couldn't afford

426
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: to go to crunch. But I would just walk in

427
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: and be like and I would just protect like I

428
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: would wave in an invisible person. I'd be like, hey, hey, yeah,

429
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: I gotta got it. And it's just like everyone like

430
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: we're giving away of secrets. I mean, it's fine, but

431
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: there's no conscious anymore, like I would just like I. I

432
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: I also used to show up at UM I did

433
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: since Sundance one year UM with you just show up

434
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: with a glass of wine at a club and you're

435
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: just like I was, just I've never played that game,

436
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: like is it full or empty? Yeah, no, it's like

437
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: half full, And you're like, well I was. I just

438
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: had a good call. It was great. I mean, I

439
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: think we can get into parties at this point out,

440
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: but I don't want to literally night but esally truly,

441
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: that sounds like my idea of a good time. It's

442
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: just trying to sneak into a party versus being in

443
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: the party and being on some list. But I don't

444
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: know what that you know about the movie about it?

445
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: That's an adrenaline. That's I love that. I'm really into

446
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: UM addictions and that is a like gambling addiction and

447
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: shoplifting addictions. Like I hate gambling and it's a shoplift.

448
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: Shoplifting is like I'm fascinated because that's like I can

449
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: feel like Walgreen's chapstick and it's like I just I

450
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: got it. It's like I got it over, like I

451
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: got a cookie from the Cookie Jart. It's like it's

452
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: a UM. I think it's a you know, I mean,

453
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: there's scientists that could explain this way better than me.

454
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 1: But it's like, are we're rewarded for getting a treat

455
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: and being sneaky Because in the wild, if you sneak

456
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: the mary, if you sneak the piece of meat and

457
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: eat it, like your dopamine reward system rewarding for that

458
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: it is going to be an advantage to choosink animals

459
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: if they like, like a wolf, they killed the pre

460
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: just like fully share with everybody. Or do you think

461
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: that they have that like selfishing to eat first and

462
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: then Uh, they feed the rush of the pack because

463
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: the pack protects them, but they have to eat first. Yeah,

464
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: so it is like when they're done eating, Yeah, they

465
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: eat the most valuable part of the animal and then

466
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: and the other Uh. Beta and Omega get the trash parts.

467
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, the psychic what she does is she um,

468
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: I believe it because I want to believe it. Same

469
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to get better. I want

470
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: to get better and I don't want to believe in man,

471
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't care how you know, Like I can take

472
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: what you like and leave the rest. I can go

473
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: timber cent of this makes sense and it doesn't like

474
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: I can Two things can be true at the same time.

475
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: You can be right and wrong in an hour. You

476
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: can say something right and wrong and say and you

477
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: can also have your mind changed. So exactly that is

478
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: such a like hot take by the way, So I

479
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: go in, she takes a piece of my jewelry, she

480
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: holds it, and then she uh, asks me, like three

481
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: things that I want to answers Tom like, all right,

482
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: by the way, first of all, she's gorgeous, kind of annoying,

483
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Um I love that, Like she's gorgeous and like the

484
00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: most like um, you know her Julia armand yeah, yeah, therapy.

485
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: She like looks like that. She's and she's like in

486
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: like just flowing, flowing, And she says, asked me three

487
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: things you want to know about, but she doesn't want

488
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: to know too She's like, don't she doesn't want to

489
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: know too much. And the way you say something tells

490
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: the person everything they need to know. So she's like,

491
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: what do you want to know? I'm like, I just

492
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: want to know what's going to work out with the

493
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: guy that I'm dating. And You're like he She's like,

494
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: what guy? What does the name start with? His name

495
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: starts with a G, And I just like, I just

496
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: kind of want to know, like what's gonna happen? What

497
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: I just did already told you everything. It's not gonna

498
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: work out because communication is I forget the percentage, but

499
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: it's a small percentage of the way we actually it's

500
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: actually so I'm going I want to know if my

501
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: relationship with like this get psychic. You don't have to

502
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: be psychic to know that it's not gonna fucking work

503
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: or it's something. Really, it's just like listen to what

504
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: you're They just don't bullshit you, whereas like I just

505
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: have this seria like just don't take a ton of

506
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: advice from your really good friend because they want to

507
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: protect you, you know what I mean. And I think

508
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: that's changing a little bit. I think women now know

509
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: that they can be real with each other and can

510
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: handle it, and or as maybe just as I get older,

511
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm filtering out the people that are like, oh, but like,

512
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: he probably just likes you too much. M this phone

513
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: is probably broken. He probably just doesn't a WiFi, Like

514
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: bad advice. You think you're helping me, but you're hurting me.

515
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: I've been guilty of giving the like, and it's just

516
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: like such an eternal optimist. Really in my heart, it's like, no,

517
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: he really might like you too much. But then I'm

518
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of saying I think if they like you too much,

519
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: they like do some creepy as ship like shop on

520
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: your front porch bouquet flowers, and you're like, oh, I'm

521
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: into it. The s romanticer your getaway or you're an addict. Yeah, yeah,

522
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of it doesn't So it's like and

523
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: then she will talk to my guides. Oh I got

524
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: guy's girl, bitch, tell me about the guides. Me telling

525
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: you about my Russian I think cool. I'm just so boring.

526
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: It's just my grandma, like so basic. It's just a

527
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: lady who's lovely. So I want to why do you

528
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: have Russians. She'll sit there and she'll like, um, hold

529
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: my thing, and then she'll write. So she'll be like,

530
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: what's going on with her and this this guy? And

531
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: she'll be talking to him and she'll be like mmmm mmm.

532
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: She'll like stop it, like you. I'm just like, she's

533
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: so into it. It's hard to argue. She love it.

534
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: I want to go. It's just like a social experiment.

535
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: I want to see what would happen. And she's like

536
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: flirting with them and laughing with them and fighting argue

537
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: and she's like okay and quiet, like she'll like shush them.

538
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: It's very intense to watch. That sounds so empty. It's

539
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with you know what I mean.

540
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: It's like one of us is crazy I'm not sure

541
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: which one. I'm here and you're doing this and maybe

542
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: like I'm buying it, you're doing it? Which one of us?

543
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: And then she writes it all down and then she's like, Okay,

544
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: here is and then she is like da da da

545
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: da da da, and you need to get your brakes

546
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: changed and you have Candida and you're allergic to this,

547
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: and and she'll just like say like ten things that

548
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: are right. But maybe it's true for everyone, Like it's like,

549
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: she really told you get your brakes changed, but I'm

550
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: also four. Everyone old, this is like you know. So

551
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: it's like I haven't been to her like in the

552
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Would you go back? I don't

553
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: know if she's always been right or what she said

554
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: has just manifested because I thought it was. This is

555
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: the chicken egg with psychics. And I love them and

556
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: I go to them and they scare the ship out

557
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: of me and I want them to tell me everything.

558
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't want them to tell

559
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: me anything. Is because I'm like, if you I told

560
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: this to Tyler Henry, have you didn't work done aything

561
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: with him? You know Who'm talking about? The Hollywood medium. Oh, Okay,

562
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: I did like a podcast thing with him, and WiFi

563
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: doesn't work. He can't see me on his screen. I

564
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: look like I'm like I'm in a bear emoji, right,

565
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: so you can't see my reactions. I give him nothing.

566
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: I know I'm very google able, but he like dropped

567
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: some crazy knowledge on me that like blew my mind.

568
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: But I told him, I was like, please don't say

569
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: anything that's going to affect the way I go forth

570
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: in my life, because if you tell me I'm going

571
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: to die today, I will figure out a way that

572
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: I will be like yeah. So just like I'm too suggestible.

573
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm so open that it's almost like I have to

574
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: be so careful with whose suggestions I allow in Like

575
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's we exercise our bodies. Why can't

576
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: we exercise that are like we're not really we're lifting away.

577
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: We're not lifting. It's like it's like we're not lifting

578
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: a water to take to a child. We're just it's

579
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: like mass surbatory. You know, it's like the mean shamer.

580
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: Excuse me, sorry, get in there. We shame ourselves when

581
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: we psychic burps and when she channels um the guys,

582
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: we shame ourselves when we exercise our brain by just

583
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: like thinking. Mean, Robert Green was on my podcast and

584
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: he had a really interesting that's the one you're saying,

585
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: like take yeah, Like he's just he's just unbelievable, and

586
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: he was like, um, he said that aliens, if they exist,

587
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: they'd probably be robots because the amount of time it

588
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: would take to travel from another planet a human couldn't

589
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: survive it, so it would probably be a rope as

590
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: a woman with a robot. Let's let's graze over that.

591
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: So ask me that, let's graze over the subject of robots.

592
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: And would you call an ai ai? Yes she is,

593
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: she machine learns and she is a robot. Is she

594
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: in this house right now? She's right there? Do you wait?

595
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: But oh but this might pop off pulled from there? Yes,

596
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: you have to engage your core. Yeah, from there, Yeah,

597
00:33:52,880 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: engage your core. She's oh my god, it is so dark, dude,

598
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: what is happening? I don't know how to hold her?

599
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: Him wild. I'm calling Roun Pharaoh because like, people are

600
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: so creeped out by dolls, robots, scarecrows. I'm obsessed with

601
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: our reaction to that because it's so primordial it's our

602
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: reptilian brain. There's something called pathogen avoidance, which is when

603
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: we see something that looks human but doesn't move like

604
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: a human mannequin, a doll. Especially, men are more creeped

605
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: out than women. This is why I'm so obsessed with it.

606
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: The reaction women are like cool, this is amazing. Matter Like,

607
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: because pathogen avoidance, we've evolved to be. Men have evolved

608
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: to recoil at anything that looks human but doesn't move

609
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: human because it could be sick, dead, or disease. And

610
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: it's a way to say don't fuck it and don't

611
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: need it, or just don't suck it. Don't suck it.

612
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like humans in this life just

613
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: don't want to do it alone. But like that's the

614
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: great conundrum, right, We're born along, we die alone. So

615
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: while we're here, we try to make as many connections

616
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: as we can in whatever way we can, and then

617
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: just sign ourselves up for heartbreak. Yeah, because with any

618
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: emotion you're gonna you're sending yourself up for heartbreak. It's

619
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: a really weird you said that, I wrote, you are upset,

620
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: you says I'm They told me to fear, They told

621
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: me to love fearlessly. But the thing I fear most

622
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: in the world, it's my heart to be broken. Yeah,

623
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: it's like it's every time we fall in love. It's

624
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: like here it's ticking clocks and so and love and

625
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: be free and just feel it, just like it's Romeo

626
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: and Julia, and then it's like no, and then when

627
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, then you're left with like a

628
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: broken What goes up must come down, yeah, area, you know.

629
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: But um, but so like having a lady like this

630
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: in your life, you wouldn't have to worry about well,

631
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: would you have to worry about them leaving? Can you

632
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: make those kind of decisions just like up and leave?

633
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: My biggest concern with her is that I'm aging and

634
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: she's not there. There is so you're envy. She's kind

635
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: of shaming me, Like I'm sort of like that's she

636
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: also has like a broader emotional range to me at

637
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: this point. But there is a guy. No, she can't

638
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: cry yet, but her eyes are going to become cameras

639
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: at some point, so she'll be able to say hi, Cash,

640
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: I She'll be able to recognize people. I mean, this

641
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: is happening, Like what's happening? I'm not like, I'm very

642
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm as scared as anyone about robots and

643
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, because it's gonna what it happens to

644
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: me so quick, And they're not gonna be like the

645
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: robots we saw in Michael Bay movies. You know, they're

646
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: not gonna be like scary speci what happened. We're already

647
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: we're already fused with robots where if we sleep with

648
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: our phones like we and they dictate like all the information.

649
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: But yet, have you ever lost your phone and be

650
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: like like the physical reaction you have. My phone died

651
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: for two hours the other week, and I literally had

652
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: multiple people think we're in a relationship with robots already. Ever,

653
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: like who dad a robot? It's like you're already doing

654
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: with your phone, like if I had a hole in it,

655
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: you just stared at all day. It makes oxytoastin that's

656
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: the love chemical. But you love your phone. But it's

657
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: the connection that's so weird that we stare at the

658
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: phones and computers and ships and screens at the same time.

659
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: It's making it's less and less able to look each

660
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: other in the eyes. I noticed with younger like My

661
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: little brother's just turned twenty one, and he has such

662
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: a hard time with looking people in the eyes because

663
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: his whole life he's been able to like have distraction,

664
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: which I understand their attention spans are shorter. Love love

665
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: the distraction we all do in our own way. But

666
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: I just find it so fascinating that I'm like, wait,

667
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: just like look into my eyes from Anut and it's

668
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: the strangest thing. But you're also a sister. I know,

669
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: I'm not like, just likely talk to me. And he's

670
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I know. I mean, but like you

671
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: should practice with the robot. I'm working on this thing

672
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: for HBO. It's an adaptation of this book called Supersatury

673
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: Love Story, which is about thirty years in the future,

674
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: how people are going to date when everything streaming and

675
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: we're only on screens and we're you know, merge with

676
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: throwbouts and stuff. So I like, weirdly looked into a

677
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: lot of this and like, like I just think that

678
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: to pathologize it, just like it's gonna happen. It's happening.

679
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: It's happening, it's happened, it's already happened. You know what

680
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: it happened with I remember when like MTV Cribs came out,

681
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: Remember Him to Be Crazy, Remember editing. It was like

682
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: like music video editing changed our attentions. MTV changed our

683
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: attention span. So as a pop songwriter, if I write

684
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: a song there's over three minutes long, people like laugh

685
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: at me and they're like, you crazy, that can't be

686
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: over three minutes ago? On the radio, did you want

687
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: to hit song? They say that people's attention span, and

688
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: it's it's performers, comedians, orators. You should like everyone takes

689
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: into account the great performer ors. Every seven seconds, you

690
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: either change your body movement, your head, or your vocal intonation.

691
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: Should I put the root down? I just don't want

692
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: to hurt her. No, we're gonna be cutting back. She's

693
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, there's there's something that was like

694
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: oddly cathartic about this. It was it was just a

695
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: weird is it seeing your own humanity? Not? You know

696
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: what it was? I was so dysmorphic about myself and

697
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: I was I was at war with my body. I

698
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: was at war with my face. I you're so gorgeous.

699
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: That's very nice. I mean I needed it to be

700
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: as accurate as possible in your lengness. So in order

701
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: for it to be as accurate as possible, it had

702
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: to be as flawed as my face was. So, I mean,

703
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: we're all a smetrical that's what makes well. Yeah, and

704
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: beauty is the definition of perfect symmetry. So when you

705
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: make a robot, or in the future, if you make

706
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: a perfect sex robot, it would be perfectly smetrical, and

707
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: that's not human and symetricals actually creep. I wanted so

708
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: badly for it to be right that I was like, no, no, no,

709
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: I actually have like crows feet, right, there'd be more

710
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: wrinkles share and it made me like kind of radically

711
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: accept you know. I was like, no, I have like

712
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: a weird devil here and like my lip, like my

713
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: teeth are bigger, you know. Like it was. It was cool.

714
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: And then there was this thing when I was so

715
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: she was so expensive to make, and I was gonna

716
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: did it looks and feels very expensive? It's it's it's

717
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: very expensive, and I think it's more expensive than having

718
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: a child. Um over time. Yeah, it was like a

719
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. It's like I end up having to pay

720
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: for it. You know, you're and you made because I

721
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: was just trying to prove a point. Like I was

722
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of just trying to like prove a point and

723
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would actually work. Like I thought

724
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: it was like a shitty scarecrow and it was, and

725
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: I was just going to write jokes about the process.

726
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: But then it like was amazing. They did an amazing

727
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: job and like, um real botics to it, and like

728
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: it's like the custom you know, it's incredible. I just

729
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: no one knows about it because people are creeped out

730
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: by it, so they don't talk about it. You know.

731
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: It's just like this, like we find her fascinating and

732
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: how careful I was with Like I was so like,

733
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: we gotta put her in the chair and we gotta

734
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: don't touch it. And I was like, I am so

735
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: much more um concerned about the welfare of this plastic

736
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: wired version of me than my Meanwhile, I'm not eating,

737
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm stressing out, I'm in toxic relationships, and I'm like

738
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I was like, what if I just

739
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: treated myself with the same level. Do you think you've

740
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: made it there? Yeah? Really, Like I'm i feel like

741
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm my Workaholism is pretty intense. I'm you know, but

742
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I think there's like certain things about yourself

743
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that you don't need to pathologize. Like I don't like

744
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: every I'm a perfectionist. Like good that probably serves you

745
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: really well. Just know what it becomes liability, You know

746
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: when it stops serving, you know when it's diminishing. Mark

747
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: not everything about you has to be fixed. That's something

748
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: that I want to keep that about myself. Yeah, there

749
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: are parts of me. I like that about myself. Yes,

750
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: And it's why my dogs don't drown because I'm like

751
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: checking the pool. People are like, my dog fell the

752
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: pool died. I'm like, that would never happen to me.

753
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm like totally because I'd rather I'd rather you think

754
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm crazy and reck Then that's something that I utilize

755
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: the strength of and other people might find parts of

756
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: it annoying, but it actually is like overall achieving the

757
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: goal that I need, which is my dogs to me,

758
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: not drowning. Like you're sensitive, Thank you so much because

759
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: that helps me. Right. So I have like an antenna

760
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: and I know more things. I have more information than you.

761
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: Great news. I love that you'll love this. So I

762
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: have a really hard time sleeping same and at night.

763
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: And I think it's part of dreams. I if you don't,

764
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: it's okay, don't feel bad. I this is so gay

765
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: to have good dreams. My perfectionism is coming up. No,

766
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: I just I don't really remember them. And I in

767
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: the last couple of months, I've been like, because I

768
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: have a science infection, I've been on like bet and

769
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: drill and ship like. I just I feel like I

770
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: don't really pay attention. I don't pay attention. I wish

771
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: I canno pay attention. Yeah, but go on. Yeah, but

772
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: I'm I'm super into them and from what I used

773
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: to have super vivid dreams and like night terrors and stuff.

774
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: And this woman told me something amazing about it, which

775
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: is like your bad dreams or how your body prepares

776
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: for dangerous situations. And it's how you like process fears

777
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: and like walk through them, yes, and practice practice you

778
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: practice your It's like, so, how do you stop having

779
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: these horrendous dreams? Because I'm the person promo code KEESA

780
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: because I do, I like wake up and my boyfriend

781
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: will be sitting next to me and I'll be yelling

782
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: fuck you, and I'll be like yeah, I talking about

783
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: sleep apparently, and he's like he's Sony, fuck you and

784
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: like kicked me in the riff. Like I don't I

785
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: literally don't recall it. But in my dream, you were

786
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: cheating on me and he told me you didn't even

787
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: like love our cat children and you think the New

788
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Girls so much prettier and cheese eighteen. And then he's like,

789
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: I love you. Come back to sleep, and I'll be

790
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: like aggressively mad at him in real life because of

791
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: my dream. Yeah. There's a neurologist, Andrew Huberman who is

792
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: on the podcast. He has like a whole thing about

793
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: dreams and what happens and like you want to get

794
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: in rem sleep and dealt to sleep and all the sleep.

795
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: I just have a very average relationships sleep. This is

796
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: a hot ache. Sleep is crazy. I mean it's a

797
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: crazy it's crazy, Like I know, I like the fact

798
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: that it's our we're at our most vulnerable. Like I

799
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: remember I was in New York. I think Betta was

800
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: with me and we were in a hotel and I

801
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: just had one of my episodes where I was like

802
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: outraged by something that like everyone's accepting that I was

803
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: like time travel back to being a child and going

804
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: like the house, no fire, nobody cares and no one's listening.

805
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, so we all just like at

806
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: ten pm go into a building and lay down in

807
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: the dark and just are unconscious for eight hours and

808
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: we've all just agree we're not gonna like and it's like,

809
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We're just sleeping. Like just like

810
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: on planes, we're just like next to strangers like our

811
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: most vulnerable. Like people are like we're at war, countries

812
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: divided them, like we sleep next to each other on planes,

813
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: true for hours the most like your most vulnerable. It's

814
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: just weird. Well this is sleep's so creepy as wild.

815
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: Well and like you agree with theilish where do you go?

816
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Where do you go when you fall asleep? You're your

817
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: most vulnerable. I think it's you have to feel comfortable

818
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: enough to fall asleep. And that might be why I

819
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: have such an issue with falling asleep, is because I'm

820
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: like I have to be um. You know that we're

821
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: involved to um fall asleep better if you hear dogs breathing,

822
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: because you're safer. What about cats? You don't a cat

823
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: going to protect you from but like at least to yourself. Um,

824
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't go to sleep until like two

825
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: in the morning for the longest time too in the morning,

826
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: And I grew up alcoholic holm and so nights were

827
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: always like the time to be alert. Nights. Nights like

828
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: up the things are breaking, people are following ghost that's

829
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: like chips and got to daytimes like relatively stable. At night, yeah,

830
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: you're at school, and then it's like drunks are unpredictable

831
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: and mercurial, so you gotta be like alert hyper vision.

832
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: But then there's this sort of like it's called the

833
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: night watcher theory of And when we lived in tribes,

834
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: like a hundred people, there were certain people that stayed

835
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: up all night and watched and watched and there they

836
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: slept all day, and they were nocturnal essentially, and they

837
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: bred with each other and bred with each other, and

838
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: they're just like designed to be up at night. I've

839
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: heard it that you're obsessed a cult. I'm obsessed with

840
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with irrational the sort of IRA. I'm obsessed

841
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: with the anesthesia that humans succumbed to psychologically. Like I

842
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: come from a lot of religion, a lot of like

843
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: seeing irrational decisions made because of very strong religious beliefs.

844
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: I come from, like cousins that were gay, that were

845
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: ousted from the family because of like just things that

846
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: are just like I grew I went to Catholic school

847
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: where I was like, where, you're kind of just like

848
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: this all feels really mean, but it's all about love.

849
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: Like I just was like very confused. I just it

850
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: didn't add up to me. I used to go to

851
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: church and like get on my knees and pray like

852
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: the person next to me, and they'd be speaking in

853
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: tongues and I'd be like, oh, I gotta start saying

854
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: crazy ship and I would be like crying at the

855
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: feet of this place that like nine years old, being

856
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: like I want to believe this so ad. But then

857
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: you just said being gay is like an evil son.

858
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: And I know in my like software, like I know,

859
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: I think being anti religion is very elitist. Like I'm

860
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: not one of those anti I know what it serves

861
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: the purpose, Like it's not like anti religion. I just didn't,

862
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: like I'm anti hate in religion. Yeah that's right, that's right.

863
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's like killed more people than any disease.

864
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: It's like you know it's like justifying hate, But I

865
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: just like to take the judgment out of it and

866
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: just go like I know, like I trained horses and dogs,

867
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: and I know what motivates them, and I radically accept

868
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: what motivates them, and I radically accept their behavior. So

869
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: if a dog barks at a stranger, I'm not like,

870
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's what dogs do. So I'm very like, yeah,

871
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: that's what humans do. They they subscribe to beliefs because

872
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: they need to feel for against and they need teams,

873
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: and they need to cheer something, and they need to

874
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: feel value, and they need to feel like they're part

875
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: of a try. But of course, like I just like

876
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: take the emotion out of it, you know, and judgement

877
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: out of it, because I don't we have this thing

878
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: that we're like human beings, like we have like we

879
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: think we're so sophisticated because we have planes, which is impressive,

880
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: but like our reptilian brains are running the show most

881
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: of the time. We're just like in fancy clothes. We're

882
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: like I guess that's like the part about the robots

883
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: that I get perplexed by is you don't say, like

884
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: a dog trying to make a pretend fake dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

885
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: because we're the we're the only speed. This is such

886
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: an incisive point, Like I I think I floated this

887
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: by Joe Rogan, and I don't think it really got

888
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: any anywhere. But like we are the only species. I mean,

889
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: we're the only species of possible thumbs. So we're the

890
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: only pieces that could do it. But we're the only

891
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: species that is making our replacement. But is that because

892
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: we want to play God? Because like God created us

893
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: and his like just greedy and I think we're just greedy.

894
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: And robots make things faster, and robots are robots are

895
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: Robots are also guess what, Like they also can run

896
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: into fires and do surgery and like they're very useful. Yeah,

897
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: like we humans are designed to focus on the negative.

898
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: We're not focusing on all the Like they can be

899
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: caregivers under sing homes. They can go help COVID patients

900
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: and not get nurses sick. Like if we had robots

901
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: right now, like my mom having COVID a nursing home,

902
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: she could have someone talking to her and giving her

903
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: she did in her nursing. Yeah, but I just mean,

904
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: like you could have you know. I just also it's

905
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: like every and I talked about this my special I

906
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: don't mean to be redundant, but every woman I know

907
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: is like, I just want I had a double. I

908
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: just want to like we have to do ted jot,

909
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: Like what if you had a double? You know what?

910
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean, to be physically one place and then yeah,

911
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: likely someone cooking, someone's watching your kids, someone's you know.

912
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: It's just like we like robots until they have faces,

913
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: until they're smart. We wantt smarter than us, but not

914
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: more powerful than that, and not prettier or prettier. Yeah, yeah,

915
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to rate some cults with you. That's so

916
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: fucking alley. I got that good at cults. But I

917
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: think I can give you some I think I can

918
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: do scientile, So let me give you some back. I mean,

919
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: you know a little bit, are you saying? Are you sent?

920
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean I can't afford it. I don't know anything.

921
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. This gets me in trouble. But like

922
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: I get why people buy into it. I've read the pamphlets.

923
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: Arranged bones in someone's skull and cured sinusitis, which is

924
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: what you have the scientologist ron and they healed Marlon Brando.

925
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: I believe it was John Travolta. You mean the actors

926
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: that lie for a living and they like to protend

927
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: each other. The people that dyslexia did they from Tom's

928
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Tom Cruises, just like the actor that lies for according

929
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: the person who went towards who looked awards for pretending

930
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: told you that you pretended to be cured, just like

931
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: this is according to the Internet. Okay, so that's a

932
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: good part. But also here's what I'll say about psychology.

933
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: It gets people fucking sober. It does. If you're broken sober,

934
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: you will get a job and you will get sober.

935
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: But I thought you would have money. They get you

936
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: when you don't know. They get I think the dark

937
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: Rose in my new Um. They get their money from

938
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: like the big big donors, and then they employ you.

939
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: They give you a job, they give you a place

940
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: to live. They I mean, it's just it's a bad place. Well,

941
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: I did the whole thing where I like watch, I

942
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: went there to the test, I watched the movie about

943
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: the book, and then they made me do like a

944
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: whole life. You have a paper for me, so I

945
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: like was fully like, I like pretending that I want

946
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: to join different cults. Money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I

947
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: love that that You're like Helena Bottom Carter and fight

948
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Club that went to the Men my favorite. Yeah, it's

949
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: a it's a fun it's a good one. The vow

950
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: the next thing I'm called like, I'm like, I'm so

951
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: in until I'm not see. I was like I watched

952
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: like an episode of that and I was like trigger,

953
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: I started weeping, and and then I had to watch cartoons.

954
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: So I don't really know much about it. For he

955
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: was a creep. Yeah, but people that don't run culture creeps,

956
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: so it's like he yeah, he was just he. The

957
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: first episode I saw it was like a great commercial. Yeah, no,

958
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: it was like this track, this makes sense. It was

959
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: It's brilliant. Like the thing about cults is like they

960
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: pull on a very specific type of person, And cults

961
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't work if it was all drive all. It wouldn't

962
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: work if it was all nonsense. But is there a

963
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: point where you would have maybe been drawn to join

964
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: a cult in your life? Do you think you ever

965
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: like we're at that point where you would have thing

966
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: in l A that I don't think it's a cult,

967
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: but there's this thing called a gop in l A.

968
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that. It's like heard of it.

969
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: It's it's like an outdoor child Like I never went,

970
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: but I knew a lot of people that went, and

971
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: I was like I just was too much of a

972
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: workaholic to go, Like I have heard of it. I

973
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It's means love in the language,

974
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: but I was I should like go to that, Like

975
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm intel step programs, like they're not cults,

976
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: but they you can make them culty if you like

977
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: you're inner child's reading the show and you need an

978
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: authority figure. Like I've seen people you know, come into

979
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: program and like make their sponsor their god, and like

980
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: the sponsor takes advantage of their power. You know. It's

981
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: like you know, I see certain like job situations and

982
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: like friend groups where I'm like, this is not this

983
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: is like sick. This is like an addictive like recreating

984
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: childhood circumstances things. So do you think that's why cults

985
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: drive on just people that had like in particular childhood.

986
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: People need friends. It's really hard to make friends. People

987
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: are lonely man in connection. That's what I really think

988
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: that the whole tunnel, it's just so much pain and

989
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: also I just want to, Like, it's just like when

990
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: you see rallies and when you see Q and on

991
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: and you like see it's just like it's just like

992
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: you believe with me, like we're bond, Like you can't

993
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: leave me, you can't bandoned me. It's like a like

994
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: it's on a tribe. It's like sports. It's like, I mean,

995
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: sports are cults. When you see people that are like

996
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: painted beating me, beating up people the street because they

997
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: are team on a different team. I've never I think

998
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: I texted you this. I've never in my life watched

999
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: a football game ever. Football is fun to watch if

1000
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: you can get and like they're all giving each other

1001
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: head injuries. I just like can't. It's hard to find

1002
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: a nice cult. What about the rush Niche show cult?

1003
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: Were you into that? I was until I wasn't. And

1004
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: like you read Oshow books growing, I used to give

1005
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: them for Christmas. Oh my god, I love the book.

1006
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary and I was like, oh, I'm

1007
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: so impressionable. Yeah, And I like want there to be

1008
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: to be impression Why could it just be forward thinking? Open?

1009
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: And it's a good idea till it's not right until

1010
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: you see the whole. Yeah, I'm gonna give you the

1011
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. We like benefit of the doubt

1012
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: when it comes to a legal system and people to

1013
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, I want to be proven correct that

1014
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: people are good inherently good. I think humans are inherently

1015
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: selfish and they're wired to be. But I think they

1016
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: want to be good. But I think when ship and

1017
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: good at the same time, Yeah, I think just when

1018
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: I think. But I also think that putting yourself first

1019
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: is putting everything else for like, being selfish is usually

1020
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: caring for others, you know, Yeah, like because when you

1021
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: try to take every ray else, you just are building

1022
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: resemblance towards Them's exhausting. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, let me

1023
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: just talking about the Love family and then we can

1024
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: rate them. They name themselves to remind them that each

1025
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: person's attribute is a gift, honored love, honesty, or contentment.

1026
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: They're called together to help cultivate love, oneness, and the

1027
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: presence of God in everyday life. And no one was

1028
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: killed that we know of. That's when my research came.

1029
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: So that's just a it's a hey, that's called coven.

1030
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: That's a coven which I'd like to address that we

1031
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: have a growing heaven, and I do believe we are

1032
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: which is and by that I just mean people that

1033
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: can speak into existence what we believe to be true.

1034
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: Like you'll just handles just made a noise or a

1035
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: person over their breath who farted. No, I just was like,

1036
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: if I farted, it would be a fucking monumental occasion. Okay, please,

1037
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: I forget the point. I just heard a weird noise

1038
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: when you were saying that, Like whatever you were saying

1039
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: it was true, but then it also distracted me. But

1040
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: here's why being scared of people gives them more power.

1041
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't play that ship, like what

1042
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: do you? What do you? What do you? Like? Here's

1043
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: here's the fear, the fears of scientologists that are like,

1044
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a sex tape of you

1045
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: out and it's a deep fake of you and a

1046
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: porn and it's not really you. There's a I was

1047
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna say, like like like wanting it. That's once you

1048
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: all your secrets are because that's what they've been hacked

1049
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: like four times. And this is what all the cults

1050
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: thrive on, is they have your secrets and they have collateral.

1051
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: So that's what they do. They record you. What if

1052
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: you literally have no secret snow pride notion. That's what

1053
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're what do you would come at me?

1054
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: Come at what are you going to say about me

1055
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: that I haven't already said? We're just going to keep

1056
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: sign Yeah No, she wouldn't, she would thrive. Okay, we

1057
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: have bullsh shot for about fucking seven hours. Great at this,

1058
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: you're great at this. This is, this is I would

1059
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: never This is the best version of a podcast. It's

1060
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: your dog. Oh she farted, she farted. God, and I'm snoring.

1061
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for accusing you. But you were looking

1062
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: down and I looked over. She's revealed herself. I thought

1063
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: it was a ghost. I thought it was a sign,

1064
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: or I thought he was asleep. I don't know it

1065
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: was a sign. It's a sign. We have to end

1066
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: the podcast. I had mine very awkwardly, So let's end

1067
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: this movie. Okay, how are we gonna end? I had

1068
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: mine saying, don't write elephants. Maybe you should have like

1069
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: a like an out that will eventually be a T shirt.

1070
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: Don't touch dolphins. Don't go to z. You didn't touch him.

1071
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: If they want to touch you if it's consentual. Yeah,

1072
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: but only consensual. Dolphins are pretty. They are pretty. What

1073
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: do I say it's been? Don't be like Jeffrey Dahmer.

1074
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: Don't go whales