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Speaker 1: with even last night's stories or the day before stories.

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Speaker 1: The story is that, as you've heard all day long,

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Speaker 1: Chuncey Billups, Terry Rozier among like thirty people arrested by

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Speaker 1: the FBI. I don't do I think the headlines are interesting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I actually think some of the details in some of

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Speaker 1: these stories are more interesting than like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what Chauncey Billups did. I know Chauncey. I played basketball

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Speaker 1: with him when we were in high school. He stayed

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Speaker 1: in my house. We've remained friendly, but we're not like boys.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm dis seeing myself. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what he did. Terry Rozier obviously

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Speaker 1: a lot of that, but the details are really interesting. First,

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Speaker 1: we play a couple things for you. Here's Cash Pttel,

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Speaker 1: who's the FBI's director, at a press conference Ruler.

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Speaker 2: Today, individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry

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Speaker 2: Rozier were taken into custody today former current NBA players

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Speaker 2: and coaches. What you don't know is that this is

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Speaker 2: an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation that spanned

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Speaker 2: the course of years. The FBI led a coordinative takedown

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Speaker 2: across eleven states to arrest over thirty individuals today responsible

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Speaker 2: for this case, which is very much ongoing. Not only

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Speaker 2: did we crack into the fraud that these perpetrators committed

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Speaker 2: on the grand stage of the NBA, but we also

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Speaker 2: entered and executed a system of justice against La Casinoshra

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Speaker 2: to include the Bonano, Gambino, Genevesi and Luchase crime family.

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Speaker 1: I do wish he went Italian pronunciation right, Like somewhere

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Speaker 1: back there there's going like, hey, it's a lutey, it's

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Speaker 1: a luciano. Good, Like this deck can't pronounce nothing already,

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Speaker 1: I thought, buyer when I read this that Billips and

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Speaker 1: Damon Jones, they're accused of using their celebrity to lure

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Speaker 1: people into a playing game poker game that was rigged

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Speaker 1: by the mafia. The mafia allegedly. This is my favorite

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Speaker 1: part of the story. They use sophisticated cheating technologies. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got Jason Stewart's attention, because

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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, this sounds like the Astros. I hate Springer,

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Speaker 1: a whale if they're you know, really valuable lost. The

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Speaker 1: mafia used extortion and violence to make sure they paid

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Speaker 1: their gambling debts. Noicella said investigators found the scheme involved

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Speaker 1: members of Yeah, the Banano, the Menano, the Cambino, the Chase,

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Speaker 3: So I think Roseyeer's part is separate from what Phillups is.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing in the article done by ESPN

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Speaker 3: story is in all the details. It's now how where

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Speaker 3: all these cracks and all these leaks end up trickling

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Speaker 3: who we don't know if Lebron had any role in

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Speaker 3: all of this right now he doesn't. But I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Chase do what what what most intrigues you

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Speaker 4: Just the line that you had read about the extortion

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Speaker 4: of money. That's that's what Adam Silver should be most

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Speaker 4: concerned about. When people involved in his league that have

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Speaker 4: and these prop bets, when they get leveraged, when they

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Speaker 4: what's the problem here? I mean, sports gambling's legal. What's

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Speaker 4: the problem is when these uh, when these types of

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Speaker 4: it on the podcast. And what strikes you most about

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Speaker 4: this sound isn't what Porter's saying as much as how

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Speaker 5: Think about it. You get mad at these dudes like

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Speaker 5: could get all your homies rich by telling him, Yo,

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Speaker 5: and they all get a little bad because you did

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Speaker 5: it one game like that is so not okay. But

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Speaker 5: some people probably think like that. They come from nothing

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Speaker 5: if I if I come out of this game after

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Speaker 4: I just think Adam Silver should be like stunned by

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Speaker 4: the casual nature of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Oh hey, wait, what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 1: That's right, the NCAA approved the ability for coaches like

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Speaker 1: myself and for student athletes to gamble on professional sports.

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Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting the sports gambling aspect to it,

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Speaker 1: which is like we it's like we try and avoid

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Speaker 1: the human nature of it. Jason, you and I we've

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Speaker 1: all seen this coming. And and the gambling companies, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that even support the show in this network. Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and lie to you

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Speaker 1: tell you that we're the only reason we still exist

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Speaker 1: is because of gambling, right, The reason the NFL is

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Speaker 1: so up here is because of gambling. But just like

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Speaker 1: anything it it is a drug, okay, and people cannot

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Speaker 1: control it. Just like there's a percentage of people that

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Speaker 1: I can have a beer or two beers. I'm good

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Speaker 1: I'm not drinking for a month, Like I just don't

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Speaker 1: But many people wake up thinking when can I When

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Speaker 1: that's that gene or whatever, the disease of alcoholism. What's

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no life for it, there's no training

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Speaker 1: it was entertaining, it was fun, and then I won

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, people will do evil things

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Speaker 1: losing massive sums of money. And once you once you

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Speaker 1: pick up that phone, once you answer, once you say

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Speaker 1: once you try and do anything to get out of it,

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Speaker 1: because you'll never be able to work in your sport again,

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Speaker 3: Dan, it's funny because and I'm even looking up at

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Speaker 3: my screen right now. And at one point Harry Rosier

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Speaker 3: how crappy is your investigation? Then now if you found

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Speaker 3: no wrongdoing, but now the FBI is like, uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: here was a time where thirty bets were placed on

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Speaker 3: Terry Rozier numbers, which is my point. I think when

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Speaker 3: gambling became illegal or became legal, we thought I thought,

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Speaker 3: I think other people think this way that it's all right,

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Speaker 3: you're picking the Knicks to beat the Calves, and if

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Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell throws away a basketball late, oh maybe that's

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Speaker 3: him fixing the game. But the fact that there are

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Speaker 3: I'll I had this conversation within the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: which some guys have grown into being quality endless. Some

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Speaker 1: just aren't very good. But it's really hard when you

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Speaker 1: have all new people. I think Amazon run into this.

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Speaker 1: But NBC feels like Turner Light having Tariko, who's just

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Speaker 1: solid and steady, and whether you like or don't love

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller, his voice is synonymous. And oh yeah, by

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Speaker 1: the way, the last time Reggie Miller was playing and

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Speaker 1: it was interesting was when Jordan played it well and

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Speaker 1: NBC had the rights had the rights byr What did

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Speaker 1: you think of Jordan's part of it?

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Speaker 3: I did not see it live. I only consumed it

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Speaker 3: via social media. So the point that someone made on

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Speaker 3: social media, and I can't remember who it was, was

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Speaker 3: there's this whole excitement about Jordan being rolled out, and

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Speaker 3: is this just a sit down with him for three

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Speaker 3: hours and then going to play various segments throughout the year?

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Speaker 3: Like that was my question. Like I thought it was entertaining.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was put together very well. But if

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Speaker 3: this is we're going to see the same setup of

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Speaker 3: Toego at Jordan in January, just reminiscing or talking about

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Speaker 3: certain things, then I don't know if if that's what

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Speaker 3: we all thought it was going to be. But I

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Speaker 3: thought the three minutes that I saw I thought were entertaining.

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Speaker 1: And then did you notice any difference in the actual

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Speaker 1: game broadcast.

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Speaker 3: I looked at like the score bug was actually something

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Speaker 3: that I looked at. I'm like, all right, how does

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Speaker 3: this feel? I did get a little different sense. It

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Speaker 3: did feel like it was on network TV as opposed

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Speaker 3: to say ESPN or TNT. And I know it's easy

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Speaker 3: to take shots at ESPN for stuff, but I felt

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Speaker 3: that last night's game felt more like an event. And

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Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes ESPN's broadcast are this is what's

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Speaker 3: coming up after PTI, and so I felt like it

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Speaker 3: was a bigger, sort of sort of events last night.

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Speaker 4: Jase do I saw the same thing Dan did on

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Speaker 4: social media, So either it was one person or it

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Speaker 4: was like an amalgamation of a lot of people, like

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Speaker 4: this is what the Jordan piece is. I had to check,

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Speaker 4: and he gets forty million bucks a year to do this.

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Speaker 4: Remember when it first came out that they were adding him,

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Speaker 4: my opinion was that it's going to diminish what his

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Speaker 4: reputation is if he's up there doing analysis work, Like

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Speaker 4: do we really want to see this mysterious guy who's

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Speaker 4: so cool, he's everything Lebron wants to be reputation wise?

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Speaker 4: Why would he go on TV and tarnish that by

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Speaker 4: giving us hot takes. I'm glad they're not doing that.

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Speaker 4: But to Dan's point, they're just going to cut up

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Speaker 4: interview segments with to Rico and paying forty million bucks.

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Speaker 4: The part that's incredible to me is that Twitter is

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Speaker 4: a cesspool. Twitter finds the negative in everything. If you

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Speaker 4: want to see something that you hate being bashed, you

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Speaker 4: go to Twitter. It runs like ninety nine percent positive

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Speaker 4: on Jordan last night. Everyone loved it. All the blue

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Speaker 4: check marks. They loved it. Love Jordan. I will call

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Speaker 4: BS on one thing. The interview opened this way.

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Speaker 7: You let us bring a camera to to your place

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Speaker 7: here to talk to you about basketball.

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Speaker 9: Why do you want to share what you're thinking about basketball?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 10: It's pay it forward? You know, I have an obligation

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Speaker 10: to the game of basketball, not financially.

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Speaker 9: I'm okay.

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Speaker 10: I mean I think more or less from me from

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Speaker 10: as a basketball player is to be able to pass

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Speaker 10: on messages of success and dedication to the game of basketball.

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Speaker 4: I think that sounds good. I think it's laughable, and

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Speaker 4: if you believe it, you're not smart. I think instead

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Speaker 4: of pay it forward, you should have said pay it

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Speaker 4: into my bank acou count. Uh So does motivations for

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Speaker 4: him be doing this, I think are waffable. He would

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Speaker 4: have done it much sooner. But that those are my thoughts.

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Speaker 12: Uh, Sam, did you watch No, I didn't watch a

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Speaker 12: lick of basketball last night.

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Speaker 10: I did.

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Speaker 12: I did just catch the same clip that Dan was

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Speaker 12: talking about, and I do find it funny. Pay it

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Speaker 12: forward the forty million to me, pay it forward. No,

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Speaker 12: it'll be I agree with everybody's points. I think the

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Speaker 12: more than Michael Jordan opens his mouth will probably be like,

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Speaker 12: there'll be more you know, opinions swaying either way on him.

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Speaker 12: And in terms of Peacock's production, I've only seen football.

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Speaker 12: I love it, but I haven't seen any basketball yet.

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Speaker 3: He's doing it for the for the same reason why

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Speaker 3: the last dance came out he has he has creative control.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna tell a story where he misses

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Speaker 3: a free throw like no, and then and then.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a great that's a great point.

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Speaker 3: So that's I Also, do you guys notice on the graphic,

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Speaker 3: because it was plainly obvious that the way that the

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Speaker 3: graphic is constructed, the Roman numeral of six is highlighted,

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Speaker 3: so you see this VI. I for the six championships.

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Speaker 3: You guys notice that, yes, yes, so again it's a reminder.

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Speaker 3: I've won six titles. So if you just look at

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Speaker 3: the graphic of what is it insights to whatever it

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Speaker 3: is on the bottom part. And even when the graphic

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Speaker 3: is put in motion, the VI that is formed from

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Speaker 3: the logo is highlighted. And so that to me tells

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Speaker 3: me all we need to know about why he's doing this.

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Speaker 3: This is a reminder. And Doug you tweeted, this is

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Speaker 3: my king hook line and sinker Doug's on the hook.

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Speaker 3: That's what this is about.

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Speaker 1: Totally Again, I'm just I could, I could, I could

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Speaker 1: try and like decipher it. Now I'm going to defend.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this a little bit in the pod.

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Speaker 1: The POD's available at the top of the third hour

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Speaker 1: stug Outleb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I point

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Speaker 1: out that George W. Bush, when he gets paid and

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Speaker 1: he gets paid a ton of money to go speak somewhere,

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Speaker 1: this is what he does. He sits on the couch

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Speaker 1: and somebody interviews him and he just tells stories. And

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Speaker 1: I actually think that's genius because of exactly what Jay

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Speaker 1: Sus said where put him on the desk, make him

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Speaker 1: analyze something, and that's hard, That is really really difficult.

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Speaker 1: Not what he does now, he's just being Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: And I'll also defend him with the forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: he's making. When you're Michael Jordan, you can't give you

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Speaker 1: can't give away, you can't give it up for free.

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Speaker 1: That's just you just cannot. Because the second it gets

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Speaker 1: out that Michael Jordan is doing something for half his

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Speaker 1: normal rate, then all of a sudden, all the vultures

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Speaker 1: are coming. Hey, you did it for NBC for you know,

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Speaker 1: way less than your normal rate. No, no, no, If

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Speaker 1: you want Michael Jordan, you have to pay Michael Jordan prices.

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Speaker 1: So I do not agree with you, Jay stew I

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Speaker 1: understand that he's sitting there going but he really doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to do it, doesn't have to do it. He's

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Speaker 1: just doing what Peyton Manning did with Peate man does

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Speaker 1: the same thing. He didn't want to broadcast games in booth.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be in a desk, but he

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Speaker 1: wants to talk about football, wants to stay relevant, so

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Speaker 1: he does the Manning cast, and this is his way

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Speaker 1: of staying relevant, making money, being involved also continuing to

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Speaker 1: remind people I'm still the greatest of all time and

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Speaker 1: this is the network that is most associated with the

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Speaker 1: time in which I was great.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Dan, here's here's where the Jordan this is. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't a Jordan hater, just never was a Jordan fan.

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Speaker 3: Jordan wants this again that he's giving back to basketball.

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Speaker 3: The last dance videos were sat on for how many years?

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Speaker 3: Twenty two years before they were actually released, and we

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Speaker 3: have talked about why they were released at that point,

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Speaker 3: and it's because Lebron James was encroaching in on Jordan's

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Speaker 3: reign as possibly the greatest player ever. So now we

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Speaker 3: have this ten part documentary series. COVID was separate of that.

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Speaker 3: Like this thing was in the works, it was moved

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Speaker 3: up because of covid the release, but they were going

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Speaker 3: to release this ten part doc because Jordan finally gave

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Speaker 3: the okay to it. And he talks about giving back

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Speaker 3: to basketball. As the owner of the Charlotte Hornets, I

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Speaker 3: vividly remember their season starting and he mentioned the Ryder

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Speaker 3: Cup of Jordan being at a Ryder Cup when his

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Speaker 3: Hornets were starting a season at one point, and to me,

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Speaker 3: that was all right, where are your priorities?

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Speaker 9: Then?

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Speaker 3: Do you really want to be? You know, you're giving

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Speaker 3: back to basketball? May have been Let's make the Charlotte

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Speaker 3: Hornets an actual winner. Let's turn them into something. And

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Speaker 3: so that's why I always think this stuff is a

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Speaker 3: bit contrived when it comes to Jordan. I also sent

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Speaker 3: you guys the images on the group text of the

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Speaker 3: logo I saw.

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Speaker 1: It's actually really cool. But again, these are the type

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Speaker 1: of things that make a guy of his ego super

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Speaker 1: excited about doing it. Hey man, check this out. It's

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Speaker 1: actually a really good touch. It's a really really good touch.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn continues to dominate the New York headlines, and it's

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Speaker 1: about his handling of what seems to be kind of

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Speaker 1: reasonable questions, he has it named a starting quarterback for

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Speaker 1: this weekend's game. The Jets are winless. Their owner Woody

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Speaker 1: Johnson came out and said he completely supports the coach.

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Speaker 1: If they just had a quarterback, they could just complete

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Speaker 1: a pass. That's what he actually said. Here's a Jets

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Speaker 1: head coach Aaron Glenn this morning with the reporters when

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Speaker 1: he was asked about who will be his starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: this week if it.

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Speaker 13: Was a game today, he is limited, all right today,

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Speaker 13: and he is questionable.

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Speaker 9: And I like the way those guys are trended. So

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Speaker 9: are you able to tell us who's gonna see? I

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Speaker 9: cannot tell you that. But is it because you don't

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Speaker 9: want to?

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Speaker 13: Because that's exactly it Tyro's situation and questions.

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Speaker 9: Isn't that answer this? Potentially?

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Speaker 13: That's exactly why I'm not telling you because I.

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Speaker 9: Don't want to.

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Speaker 1: I understand that, But I mean, is it partly because

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Speaker 1: of the injuries?

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Speaker 13: Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.

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Speaker 13: I don't know how many times I got to answer

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Speaker 13: you that it's not gonna.

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Speaker 9: Change you do virus? Is that's gonna be between men players?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this, this tactic. I do you understand

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Speaker 1: the not sharing personal information or in house information with

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Speaker 1: the team. I mean with reporters, like you don't have

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Speaker 1: to his health, We don't have to, but just the

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Speaker 1: defiance of I don't want to, so I'm not going to.

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Speaker 1: Just so we're aware, there is a moment in which

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Speaker 1: he has to name a starter, and he will name

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Speaker 1: a starter. It won't be a game time decision because

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Speaker 1: it's not really the way it's supposed to work. And

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Speaker 1: at some point he's going to get fined by the

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Speaker 1: NFL because the gamblers, the fantasy football players need to

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Speaker 1: know who's starting. It should matter nobody has. If you

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Speaker 1: have either of those two on your fantasy football team,

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Speaker 1: your fantasy football team is not doing well. But it

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Speaker 1: can affect the betting lines over unders and of course

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Speaker 1: a lot of other prop bets. Let's just cut to

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Speaker 1: brass tacks. If Justin Fields was their starter, and there

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Speaker 1: was no question, he would answer it as such. It's

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Speaker 1: no different than if you've been dating a woman for

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Speaker 1: like a year and you're an adult and somebody goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: she the one You're like, ye, maybe then she's not right.

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Speaker 1: Then she's not if she's the one you're like, yeah, like, well,

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Speaker 1: are you guys gonna be Remember, well, you know she's

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Speaker 1: still she's you know, she's getting a master's or she's

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Speaker 1: she's got her kids and we want to wait said

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Speaker 1: timing's not right whatever, but yeah, I mean what yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean we woul day in a year now like

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Speaker 1: we kind of you either know or you don't know.

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Speaker 1: And right now everyone knows that the Jets are going

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Speaker 1: to be in the quarterback market next year in the

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Speaker 1: off season, just like hey, who said that? Oh that

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Speaker 1: was this guy, that was this guy. It's two years

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Speaker 1: in a row where I could tell you that Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson justin Field's would not be the starting quarterback at

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Speaker 1: their respective teams at the end of the season, and

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Speaker 1: those respective teams would be looking for another quarterback at

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Speaker 1: latest at the end of the season. Happened already with

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Speaker 1: Care of kysr All ninety eight points seven the Chargers Radio.

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Speaker 9: Network, second and ten.

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Speaker 12: Herbert to throw takes a shot to the end zone

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Speaker 12: from Acacky caught touchstowd.

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Speaker 1: Chargers twenty seven yards Lad mccaucky. The Chargers were going

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Speaker 1: on to win thirty seven to ten. The Chagos statline

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Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert did have a pick eighteen of twenty

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Speaker 1: five three touchdowns one reception. Kamani Vidal ends up with

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Speaker 1: unbelievable knight for a guy who wasn't even in the

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Speaker 1: conversation right with the Chargers start of the year three

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Speaker 1: twenty three rushes one hundred and seventeen yards and Lad

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Speaker 1: McConkey six catches, ten targets. It seemed like he was there.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like he was there. Uh, Cooper Rush, that's

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Speaker 1: what we seem like, like just always open, always open,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. Did I think that the the the rushes

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Speaker 1: and the flags and the cups, I'm getting my Cooper's,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting my Cooper's confused by er, you are a

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Speaker 1: uniform police. There was one notable change to the charger,

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Speaker 1: the charger navies, and I did like those evers in

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Speaker 1: the charger Navy uniforms. Did you like the number on

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Speaker 1: the helmet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought that the outline on that helmet

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Speaker 3: without having the numbers outlined, would have looked a lot better.

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Speaker 3: It's not as noticeable on the white helmet that the

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Speaker 3: numbers aren't outlined, but it did. I did notice it

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Speaker 3: on the Navy. So the lightning bolt has an outline

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Speaker 3: to it, but the numbers didn't. And that's what messed

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Speaker 3: with me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottliep Show here on Fox Portraity. Mark Dominic

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Speaker 1: joins us as he joins us every week here on

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Speaker 1: the show. Here's a guy spent his entire professional career

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Speaker 1: from scouting working his way up to the front office

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Speaker 1: as general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And look,

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Speaker 1: I know that the kid is hurt, but I think

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Speaker 1: generally most people have been underwhelmed by JJ McCarthy. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, Carson Wentz is a backup and now

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Speaker 1: he's the back of for a reason, playing hurt last night.

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Speaker 1: But I can't help but think Minnesota, they chose poorly, right.

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Speaker 1: You had Sam Donald you had even before you had

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, right, you had, Uh, why why am I blanking? Oh,

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Speaker 1: Kirk cousins, Kirk Cousins, And now you have JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: who can't stay healthy and isn't great. Did they hurt

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Speaker 1: themselves trying to go to the rookie quarterback or the

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Speaker 1: second year quarterback in his rookie year.

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, obviously everything's unfortunate. I don't feel quite

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Speaker 11: as distraught over JJ McCarthy yet. I know the numbers

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Speaker 11: aren't great, and I know it's really been the one

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Speaker 11: quarter that's kind of caught people's attention. But I do

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Speaker 11: think of a guy that's only thrown just over forty

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Speaker 11: passes in the NFL in his career, there's a lot

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Speaker 11: of room for development still, and so you know, I

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Speaker 11: still hold out the hope or the belief that I

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Speaker 11: think JJ can be a good and starting quarterback in

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Speaker 11: the Nation Foot League and that the Vikings will will

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Speaker 11: be on the right side of history on this. I'm

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Speaker 11: going to stay on that right now, at least, Doug.

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Speaker 11: But I I you know, it's it's amazing because the

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Speaker 11: other guy that you said, Carson Wentz, used to, you know,

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Speaker 11: be mister popular too, and it's just never quite found

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Speaker 11: that right home for him either. And you look at

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Speaker 11: this Minnesota team and although they're you know, three and four,

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Speaker 11: it'll be interesting to get JJ back next week and

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Speaker 11: see what they can do going forward, just because I

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Speaker 11: think when you look at them as a as a team,

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Speaker 11: and you certainly you think about the hopes of the

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Speaker 11: playoffs and what they had last year. They've got a

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Speaker 11: couple of games coming up here in Detroit and Baltimore

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Speaker 11: the next two weeks that are really going to tell

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Speaker 11: us a lot about JJ, but also tell us for

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Speaker 11: the season is going to end up.

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Speaker 1: I want to play for you some. This is earlier today.

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Speaker 1: So Aaron Glenn has been doing the thing about not

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Speaker 1: naming a starter. He's got Tarrod Taylor who's come back

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Speaker 1: from injury. He's got justin fields where I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you heard the sound Woody Johnson said, if we

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Speaker 1: could just complete a pass right like wow, you know

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Speaker 1: that's not what you want to say about a quarterback

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Speaker 1: you gave two years guaranteed to. But take a listen

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Glenn earlier today. I want to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this. If it was a game today?

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Speaker 13: He is limited, all right today, and he is questionable.

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Speaker 13: And I like the way those guys are trended.

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Speaker 9: So are you able to tell us who's gonna I

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Speaker 9: cannot tell you that. But is it because you don't

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Speaker 9: want to?

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Speaker 13: Because that's exactly it Puyro's situational questions.

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Speaker 9: Isn't that answer this? Potentially? That's exactly why I'm not

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Speaker 9: telling you because I don't want to. I understand that,

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Speaker 9: But I mean, is it? Is it partly because of

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Speaker 9: the injuries?

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Speaker 13: Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.

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Speaker 9: I don't know how many.

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Speaker 13: Times I got to answer you that it's not gonna change.

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Speaker 1: You do I'm myers?

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Speaker 9: You know who that's going to be between man players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get that he has his owner's support

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Speaker 1: as of now. I don't understand the why to be

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Speaker 1: that way towards the New York media. Of all medias

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Speaker 1: that you don't want to antagonize for no apparent reason

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Speaker 1: when you haven't won a game, the New York media

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Speaker 1: would be one of them. What are your thoughts though,

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Speaker 1: as a former general manager when you hear that back

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Speaker 1: and forth?

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, I do I understand where the coach

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Speaker 11: is coming from and banged up or not, you know,

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Speaker 11: trying to figure out exactly what the answer is. I don't.

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Speaker 11: I don't blame the coach. I don't have as big

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Speaker 11: a problem with this. I do understand your zero to seven.

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Speaker 11: And the truth is nothing looks really great. I mean,

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Speaker 11: the Buys going to make the season seem even longer

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Speaker 11: after they play the Bengals this week. And so I

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Speaker 11: think the most important thing, like you said, is and

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Speaker 11: I think what he will stay with Aaron Glenn as

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Speaker 11: the head coach. I don't. I don't think Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't move on from him this quickly, even if

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Speaker 11: a one and done, and we sadly seen that too

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Speaker 11: many times the National Football League. If I'm going to

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Speaker 11: give Aaron Glenn any you know, punishment, it's for Justin Fields, Doug,

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Speaker 11: you and I talked about it many times. And you know,

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Speaker 11: if you're surprised that Justin Fields isn't a great starter,

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Speaker 11: than shame on you. I mean that's I mean, he's

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Speaker 11: he's had opportunities, he's flashed in moments, but he's never

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Speaker 11: shown consistency to expect him to suddenly like now I'm

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Speaker 11: going to be good. And in addition, when you look

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Speaker 11: at the Jets and the revolving doors on the offensive line,

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Speaker 11: some of that's you know, justin fields in terms of

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Speaker 11: the way he plays, but some of that's you know,

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Speaker 11: Tyro Dayor has been sacked almost ten times in less

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Speaker 11: than seventy attempts. So that offensive line is a disaster.

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Speaker 11: It's just I know they've got some resources dedicated to it.

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Speaker 11: I think some of those guys are coming around, but

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Speaker 11: it's it's just bad. And I know that you're throwing

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Speaker 11: a little more gas in on the fire, but I

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Speaker 11: think Aaron's probably behind the scenes gaining some traction with

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Speaker 11: the team that he thinks will be there long term.

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Speaker 1: Mark dominic Our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. I want to get Daron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: because he's taken on this former team and that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a story that dom it's the weekend. But I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about Jordan Love before that, the

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Speaker 1: up and down in terms of the perception of Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love right where you go back a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago and you know it wasn't going to be the

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Speaker 1: fifth year option. It was going to be a little money.

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Speaker 1: Then he comes back, plays well, they give him a

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Speaker 1: gigantic extension. He's been good. But I guess my question

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Speaker 1: to you is, as a guy who's evaluated that position

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Speaker 1: for a living for twenty five years, is he like

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Speaker 1: now we have enough to go on? What do you

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Speaker 1: think of Jordan Love and how good he actually is.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I've been I've been on the board with Jordan

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Speaker 11: Love for a while and as we've kind of talked

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Speaker 11: to Jordan, you know, I've been a buyer and a

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Speaker 11: believer and I still am. I just I like the

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Speaker 11: way he plays the game. I like his decision making.

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Speaker 11: He's clearly playing well now. And to think of all

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Speaker 11: that with a Matthew Golden that's not producing at all

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Speaker 11: in their assistant right, he's barely He's third or fourth

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Speaker 11: on the team and receptions and Dobbs is the one

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Speaker 11: that to really kind of stepped up a little bit.

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Speaker 11: I just I think the offensive line is very good there.

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Speaker 11: That's a big key to its same thing I've talked

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Speaker 11: about the Colts and while the culture being successful, the

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Speaker 11: offensive line, but Jordan Love as a quarterback and competitor,

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Speaker 11: I'm a fan of and I know that he's had

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Speaker 11: a little bit of a roller coaster, but I've stayed

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Speaker 11: on the track with this one. I just felt like

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Speaker 11: once he's shown me that he can, you know, dial

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Speaker 11: in which he has been able to do and make

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Speaker 11: plays all of the field with his arm talent, let

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Speaker 11: alone just being a solid scrambler and runner with the football.

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Speaker 11: I don't see the downside in Jordan Love. I think

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Speaker 11: he's good enough to win you a Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 11: think he's that good of a quarterback. And I think

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Speaker 11: the surrounding cast has stepped up a little bit in

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Speaker 11: Tucker Craft. You know, I thought that maybe Luke Musgrave

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Speaker 11: would have a bigger role, but in the running game

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Speaker 11: he is. And that's why they're having such success, you know,

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Speaker 11: in the red zone and pounding the ball in with

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Speaker 11: Jeff with Jacobs.

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Speaker 1: The Colts have the Titans this week, which you got

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Speaker 1: to feel prett good about right then they got the

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Speaker 1: Steelers on the road, but the Steels will be coming

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Speaker 1: off a game they're going all in on, then the

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Speaker 1: Falcons at home, then a bye week. They're at six

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Speaker 1: and one. I watched them against the Chargers, and I now,

857
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Speaker 1: I thought they were pretty good I thought they were

858
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: really well coached, especially obviously offensively. But I mean, like, look,

859
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: I look at those wins that they have this year,

860
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: and with the exception of the Chargers, which is a

861
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: big win, Cardinals, eh Raiders not particularly good, Titans fired

862
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: their coach, Broncos pretty good, but it was really as

863
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: one point. And the Dolphins, who stink right stink? So

864
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: how good are the Colts in your mind?

865
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they're good, but I think it's one

866
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 11: of those ones where they might end up with a

867
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 11: two seed or a three seed. You know, when you

868
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 11: look at their schedule, They've got Jacksonville still twice you

869
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 11: talked about the Titans, Atlanta, the Texans that have to

870
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 11: find their way. They don't see the Texans yet, so

871
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 11: there's more wins in here. But I think it's going

872
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 11: to be a two or three seed in the AF

873
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 11: and I think there'll be one and done. I think

874
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 11: they're a good football team. I think you bring up

875
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 11: a great point, and I think that's real is that

876
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 11: you know, we'll see as they play the Kansas City Chiefs,

877
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 11: when they play the San Francisco forty nine ers how

878
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 11: good they are. But they're really not going to be

879
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 11: heavily tested until they get to the postseason, and then

880
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 11: it's just a matter of, you know, where's their health

881
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 11: and everything, and how's Jonathan Taylor doing. But I think

882
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 11: they're a good football team. I think they're deserving to

883
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 11: be in first place. When you put you know, almost

884
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 11: forty points or thirty five points a game on the board,

885
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 11: you deserve to be where you are in terms of

886
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 11: the standings. But you know, I think every Colts fan

887
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 11: would say, hey, look, this is much that I anticipated,

888
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 11: but will also have holding their breath in the postseason

889
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 11: going which team will show up. Is it going to

890
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 11: be the one that's you know, played well all season

891
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 11: long but has beaten, to your point, the Tennessee Titans,

892
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 11: Or is it the one that showed up and beat

893
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 11: the Denver Broncos. We too, I'm leaning towards you know,

894
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 11: they're going to make the postseason, but I don't see

895
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 11: a run here.

896
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to take it on his former team.

897
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: He's looked more and more comfortable as the year has

898
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: gone on. But last time we saw him was Ors

899
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: Night Football. He wasn't great yelled at some of his dudes.

900
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: Defense was was awful. Uh, he's taken a different than normal.

901
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers tacked this week of being a fuse in

902
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: his praise of his time in Green Bay and saying

903
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: he wants to retire at Green Bay Packer. What do

904
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: you that's that's not kind of classic a rod if

905
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: you will, why the why the turn?

906
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 11: That's good?

907
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: You know.

908
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 11: I think I think Aaron understands that this might be

909
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 11: the last year, Like this might be the last one,

910
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 11: and so let's not go out as a bully. Let's

911
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 11: go out as as a guy that you know, appreciates

912
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 11: what the Packers did and and all the opportunity you

913
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 11: have there in the Super Bowl Championship and all those

914
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 11: different things. And so I think it's a mature Rogers

915
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 11: to do that, to be able to walk and play

916
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 11: in Lambeau and and have that that opportunity. But I

917
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 11: think that when you well, you're gonna be at to

918
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 11: actually the games at Pittsburgh excuse me, but the chance

919
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 11: to play and say that you want to be a

920
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 11: team that drafted you and and end up in the

921
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 11: Ring of Honor in the Hall of Fame and go

922
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 11: in that way, I think it's great, and I think

923
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 11: it just speaks that he's I think he's maturing it

924
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 11: understanding again, he's building bridges as he sews up by

925
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 11: what I think is going to be his last season

926
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 11: in the NFL regardless, and I think it's a smart

927
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 11: move by him.

928
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: What happened to their past rush and it was non

929
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: existent last week?

930
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, that was hard for me to understand because I

931
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 11: feel like that's been one of the keys to the

932
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 11: Pittsburgh Steelers all year long, has been able to get

933
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 11: to the quarterback, whether it's the two starters or it's

934
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 11: Herbic and you know, usually they find a way, but

935
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 11: this last week they just couldn't have an answer for

936
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 11: Joe Flacco and certainly Jamar Chase. And so I think

937
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 11: that that's I think that will change. I don't think

938
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 11: that's the norm for the Pittsburgh Steelers at all. I

939
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 11: think there'll be a much better team getting after the

940
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 11: quarterback this week than they than they did before. But

941
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 11: I think the Steelers defense still should be especially the

942
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 11: front seven, the strength of that team. And I would expect,

943
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 11: you know that TJ. Watt will show up a lot

944
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 11: more in this game. And again Nick Herbig to me

945
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 11: and Alex High Smith. When you have those three going,

946
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 11: they should get home and I think they will.

947
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Giants get another shot at the Eagles. And the Giants,

948
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean had a commanding lead and just split up

949
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: a game last week against Denver Broncos. But you go

950
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: back a couple weeks ago and on Thursday Night Football,

951
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: they smashed the Philadelphi Eagles. How different will this game be? Well?

952
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 11: A good thing for the Eagles, I think, and just

953
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 11: for them to be able to walk in this game

954
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 11: is they have a lot more tape now and I

955
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 11: think that's going to be the big thing with Jackson

956
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 11: Dart is to be able to start to look for

957
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 11: tendancies and see how can you take advantage of it

958
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 11: or what do you expect from him instead of kind

959
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 11: of being one of the first season gets to take

960
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 11: him on full time and I think that's a big deal.

961
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 11: So I mean that's where I think the fangio, the

962
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 11: defensive coordinator there, with all of his experience, we'll try

963
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 11: to take advantage of that. My big thing for Jackson

964
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 11: Dart is that he's got to learn how to play

965
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 11: for the next play. I don't think you can play

966
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 11: with his aggressiveness and stay healthy for an entire season.

967
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 11: So I hope I can watch a guy that's willing

968
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 11: to get down maybe understands when to slide a little

969
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 11: bit sooner. But I don't feel as confident that this

970
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 11: game is going to go the same. I have a

971
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 11: lot more confidence than where I think Philadelphia learned that

972
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 11: game instead of the confidence of Giants are starting to

973
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 11: play with their young quarterback.

974
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Speaker 1: I it's it's gonna be really interesting to see how

975
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: that evolves after people get get that film on him,

976
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: and how and who adjusts otherwise and what are the adjustments?

977
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: Like are you I'm I'm of the mindset I'm to

978
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: people who thought the Brian Schottenheim or hire was a

979
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: bad one, They're wrong. Now their defense isn't particularly good, okay,

980
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: but they're three and three. They trade away Micah Parsons.

981
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: We knew their defense wasn't gonna be great if they

982
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: had Michael Parsons. Am I crazy saying Jerry might have

983
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: got this one right?

984
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 11: Well? It feels from an offensive standpoint when you you

985
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 11: got a team here that's put forty points on the

986
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 11: board three times already to the season, and you know,

987
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 11: I think they'll have a lot of opportunities to do

988
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 11: that again. So from an offensive standpoint, you should be

989
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 11: very correct. I think you are correct. You know, it's

990
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 11: tough when you lose a game like to the Pan

991
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 11: there's you know the way they did, but you know

992
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 11: that's a big win against the Commanders. That's probably the

993
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 11: one team that right now the season ended, isn't in

994
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 11: the postseason. You scratch your head in the NFC, go

995
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 11: wait a second, the Commanders aren't even in the postseason.

996
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 11: And so I got to give credit to Dallas that

997
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 11: you know, the Yes, they're at that five hundred records

998
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 11: with the tie, and we'll see how they play at

999
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 11: Denver this week. You know, it's going to be a

1000
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 11: great opportunity for them to continue to you know, put

1001
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 11: victories on and for some reason, you know, the Dallas

1002
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 11: Cowboys the Commanders are probably the two teams the NFC

1003
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 11: that you know aren't officially in the playoffs, but you

1004
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 11: feel like at least one of them will. If you've

1005
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 11: already beat Washington once, you got a chance to be

1006
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 11: that team. If you can just get you know, I

1007
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 11: think because of the bye or the excuse me, the tie,

1008
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 11: I think if you get the ten wins I think

1009
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 11: the Dallas Cowboys are.

1010
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: In crazy to think considering what everybody thought would happen

1011
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: first game of the year Egles Cowboys thought would be

1012
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: a blowout. Thought the Cowboys be the laughing sock of

1013
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: the league. They're not great, but they're definitely not the

1014
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: laughing stock of the league. Mark, you're the best man.

1015
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Thanks so much for being our guest.

1016
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 11: Douganks for me on