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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well again nowur number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the Patriot ten ninety am Real Talk in.

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Speaker 1: Seattle for hosting me.

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Speaker 2: I'm speaking out here at a Hillsdale College event this evening.

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Speaker 1: Buck is down in Miami. It is truly, I.

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Speaker 2: Think, Buck, this is about as far as we could

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Speaker 2: be geographically in the continental United States.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm correct.

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Speaker 2: Miami to Seattle is the longest flight you can take

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Speaker 2: on a commercial airline. I think in the continental United States,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it be that is regularly rely scheduled. It's a

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Speaker 2: brutal flight. I think I've taken that before. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you out there, Like I said, hanging with us,

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Speaker 2: all right, several different things. Seven jurors have been selected

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Speaker 2: for the Trump trial. We'll talk about that with Andy

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Speaker 2: McCarthy at the bottom half of this hour, maybe a

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Speaker 2: little bit later. Dive into the specifics under which we

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Speaker 2: are able to discuss them. They give you like a

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Speaker 2: rough biographical idea of who these jurors are. They have

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Speaker 2: to pick five more for the twelve man jury, and

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Speaker 2: then I think a six and six alternates as well,

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Speaker 2: so there still are somewhere around eleven jurors that have

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Speaker 2: to be selected. No trial today Wednesday is the off day,

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Speaker 2: and I saw this you mentioned it earlier and we

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Speaker 2: started to get into it a little bit. So I

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Speaker 2: flew from Atlanta, where I had a great event. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: Kelly Leffler's group Greater Georgia for putting on a really

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Speaker 2: fun event in Atlanta. Brian Kemp was there, all the

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Speaker 2: legislative leaders of the State of Georgia. Was a really

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Speaker 2: good time there last night, and then hopped to flight,

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Speaker 2: got in here around I think, what two am Pacific,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going on fumes a little bit five am

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Speaker 2: on the East coast. But I saw this when I

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Speaker 2: was traveling, and I couldn't believe that it was I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know you do this two buck right,

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Speaker 2: You see a tweet and you think, for a minute, hey,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, is this reeal like this person actually

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Speaker 2: send it? Is another person? And I was like Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: who will not actually say women's sports should only be

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Speaker 2: made up of women, decided that he needed to weigh in.

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Speaker 2: And by he decided, I mean someone in the White

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Speaker 2: House decided that Biden needed to weigh in, and so

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Speaker 2: this was a tweet that he sent yesterday. Women in

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Speaker 2: sports continue to push new boundaries and inspire us all

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Speaker 2: but right now we're seeing that even if you're the best,

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Speaker 2: women are not paid their fair share. It's time that

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Speaker 2: we give our daughters the same opportunities as our sons

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Speaker 2: and ensure women are paid what they deserve.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, who drafted number one overall WNBA, Her salary

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Speaker 2: for the next four years went viral somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: neighborhood of seventy five thousand dollars a year within the

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Speaker 2: first three years, and then a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: in the neighborhood of three hundred and fifty k over

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Speaker 2: four years something in that neighborhood. Now, this is important

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Speaker 2: data here. This is from in Wokeness. The revenue produced

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Speaker 2: by the NBA is ten billion dollars a year. The

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Speaker 2: revenue produced by the WNBA is around sixty million. And

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Speaker 2: if you actually do the math as a percentage of revenue,

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Speaker 2: WNBA players actually make more than NBA players. Just nobody

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Speaker 2: cares about their profession Clay. This is part of what

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Speaker 2: you see with Democrats on their mythology around equal pay

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Speaker 2: concerns as well. There seems to be this this belief

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Speaker 2: that there is some evil force that is stopping people from.

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Speaker 1: Making what the market will bear in their case. And

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Speaker 1: so I just would want to There's so many obvious

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Speaker 1: questions in response to Joe Biden's really idiotic tweet, right,

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Speaker 1: which is what's fair? Who determines what fair pay is

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Speaker 1: for professional athletes? First of all, the fact that you

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Speaker 1: can make money playing a it's a kid's game, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I say that with a I think that's a good thing, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's it's a game meant for, you know, young people.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that as an adult you can make

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Speaker 1: it's not really a thing you can do, certainly can't

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Speaker 1: And so I'd want to know what is fair? And

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Speaker 1: you point out the NBA makes it like one hundred

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Speaker 1: times in revenue. What the w NBA makes, so we

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Speaker 1: know what the numbers tell us. And I mentioned this

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Speaker 1: asked him, I said, oh, okay, I was like, you know, what,

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Speaker 1: fifteen grand a season. Okay, fifteen So why is that fair?

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Speaker 1: You know, professional across players are professional athletes, and they

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Speaker 1: work very hard at their sport, and it's fair because

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Speaker 1: what are the TV rights, what are the ticket sales,

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Speaker 1: what are the you know, what's the endorsements? And you

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Speaker 1: add all this stuff up and you create a market

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Speaker 1: and you pay the people what you can to get

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Speaker 1: them to you know, it's all supply and demand. It's

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Speaker 1: all the basics of economics. So what is Biden even saying?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 1: Just it's it makes no sense. It's just an emotion

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Speaker 2: Also, I asked this question, and I bet the answer

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Speaker 2: is no. Can you think of any business that has

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Speaker 2: existed for twenty five years and never made a profit

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Speaker 2: and still exists the fact that the WNBA exists at

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Speaker 2: all is a testament in many ways too well.

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Speaker 1: The government. I guess you could say there's the government.

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Speaker 1: There's probably some media publications that have to have like

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're even even some of these media publications.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they could go twenty five years with

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Speaker 2: never making a profit. Now, maybe you've got an owner

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Speaker 2: who just doesn't care. I mean, basically, you know there

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Speaker 2: are nonprofits, but I'm talking about an ostensible business venture.

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Speaker 2: The WNBA exists theoretically to make money. It has never

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Speaker 2: made a profit in its entire history. But I think

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Speaker 2: you've stumbled onto something there. I don't think the WNBA

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Speaker 2: exists to make money, right. I think this is what

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Speaker 2: I think the Democrats, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I think that the.

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Speaker 2: Truth at that point would be they're already benefiting. The

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Speaker 2: fact that she makes seventy five K is a testament

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Speaker 2: to the fact that this organization needs to exist to

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Speaker 2: support it themselves.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It's a charity case. Effectively, it is

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Speaker 1: or rather it just doesn't make a profit. I think

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Speaker 1: equal interest in all fields of human endeavor and equal

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Speaker 1: outcomes in all fields of human endeavor. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just I can tell you, you know, a former

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Speaker 1: now older supermodel, a true supermodel, works out at a

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Speaker 1: gym that I occasionally go to. I should go to

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Speaker 1: it a lot more. I'm going to beat all of

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Speaker 1: go to here in Miami. I mean, honestly, one of

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Speaker 1: and whatever Clay she made, just like Jisell Bunchin for example,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, she made tens of millions of dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: The top male models in the world, as we've discussed before,

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Speaker 1: maybe make six figures. I don't think they make seven figures.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, there might be like a couple

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Speaker 1: function of the marketplace, female beauty is more highly financially

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Speaker 1: rewarded than male attractiveness in that realm. That's just a fact.

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Speaker 2: Which is the movie Zoolander, which is hysterical, absolutely ridiculed

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Speaker 2: right in many ways from a satirical you see zoo Lander,

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Speaker 1: Course, blue steel, I mean blue steel and can only

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Speaker 2: I mean that is a perfect example of an industry

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Speaker 2: that values even though you're selling the same product, that

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Speaker 2: values female attractiveness infinitely more than men's.

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Speaker 1: How about OnlyFans?

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Speaker 2: How many straight men are making a lot of money

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Speaker 2: on OnlyFans right now? If I started an OnlyFans accounts

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Speaker 2: posted photos, I would have zero subscribers.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine at least reach funny idea some of

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Speaker 1: you can't get enough Clay and buck well you can now.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if I just started an only fan's

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Speaker 2: I mean, so female beauty has far more economic value

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Speaker 1: And I think that there are also there are sports

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Speaker 1: You know, people really like when Serena was dominated.

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Speaker 2: Actually prefer women's tennis because it's only three sets, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't take as long, the game is not as fast

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Speaker 1: It's a joke, like it means nothing to them. So

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Speaker 1: that's a totally it's a totally different game in that respect.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, there are other sports. I know, beach

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Speaker 2: Buck women's gymnastics is far more popular than men's gymnastics.

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Speaker 1: Is it by far the most popular Olympic? Isn't that

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Speaker 2: Usually, I think the women's gymnastics competition is the highest

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, but we know all of this, and this

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Speaker 4: is all so obvious, and so what really is like

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Speaker 4: the what is the childish complaint here that gets all

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Speaker 4: from Biden's minions on down to.

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Speaker 1: The rest of us. What the Caitlin Clark should be paid?

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Speaker 1: What and where should that money come from? Are we

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Speaker 1: supposed to subsidize it? Here's what they This is the

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Speaker 1: way DEEI works. By the way Clay, what they would

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Speaker 1: say is yes, the men should subsidize it, and that

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Speaker 1: no one's allowed to talk about the fact that they

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Speaker 1: and market value in their sport. That's it's like affirmative

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Speaker 2: If you truly feel like WNBA players are underpaid. You

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Speaker 2: have a choice. You can go buy season tickets. You

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Speaker 1: different things, and that is a dishonest slander meant to

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Speaker 1: attack somebody who, to your point, find anything you or

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Speaker 1: I have ever said that could be classified as na gay.

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Speaker 2: We bring in now Andy McCarthy, who is I bet

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Speaker 2: doing more media than he's ever done in his entire life. Andy,

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Speaker 2: we got seven jurors seated so far. How would you

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Speaker 2: assess the way this trial is going right now? Has

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Speaker 2: anything surprised you? Where are we from your perspective?

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Speaker 3: The pace the jury selection has really surprised me because

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Speaker 3: you mentioned media when we were doing it on Monday.

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Speaker 3: I guess you know, I tried to warn people ahead

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Speaker 3: of time that nothing really happens during jury selection. It

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Speaker 3: was you know, obviously, it's historic that it's the first

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Speaker 3: formal day of the trial against the first former president

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Speaker 3: who happens to be the de facto Republican nominee, but

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Speaker 3: nothing much was going to happen, and nothing seemed to

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Speaker 3: happen the first day. A few rulings that were interesting,

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Speaker 3: but beyond that, not much. And the estimates play were

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Speaker 3: that they thought it might take until early May, yeah,

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Speaker 3: to get a jury because of the glacial pace of Monday.

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Speaker 3: But then the thing picked up like a rocket Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: and you know, they could they could have a setback tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: but the you know, to the extent to judge that

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Speaker 3: he may have a jury fully selected by Friday. That's

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Speaker 3: entirely possible.

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Speaker 1: Annie, Thanks for being with us. You know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to keep you for another segment. We have too

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Speaker 1: many questions, so just get ready for that. But one

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Speaker 1: thing that we've been wondering about, or I've been I've

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Speaker 1: been wondering about, particularly this whole notion of a an

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Speaker 1: impartial jury for Trump in New York City on this case,

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Speaker 1: it seems to me, like I understand, you know, you

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Speaker 1: go to trial with the justice system you have, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like you go to war

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Speaker 1: with the army you have. This is what we got

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Speaker 1: is trial by jury's doma. In general, it's very very good.

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Speaker 1: But to me it just seems like a farce. I mean,

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Speaker 1: some of the people that are already it seems have

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Speaker 1: been in contention are obviously anti Trump. Like, how do

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Speaker 1: we get is that just baked in at this point?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the thing is that you're not. The

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Speaker 5: idea is not to.

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Speaker 3: Get people who all like Trump, or who all like

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Speaker 3: Bragg for that matter, because there's a lot of resentment

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Speaker 3: against Bragg and Manhattan too.

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Speaker 5: The thing to remember about all this is that the

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Speaker 5: people the.

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Speaker 3: Movement progressives who vote in elections like the one where

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Speaker 3: Bragg was elected, that's a vanishingly small number of the

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Speaker 3: people in Manhattan, and you know, they're very motivated, so

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Speaker 3: they kind of punch above their weight. Trump is apt

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Speaker 3: to find a number of really good jurors in Manhattan.

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Speaker 3: I like trying cases in Manhattan, now, you know. I

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Speaker 3: that was twenty years ago, and we were federal so

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Speaker 3: we were drawing from the Bronx in West Yester too,

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Speaker 3: But we had a lot of Manhattan jurors. I thought

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Speaker 3: they were good jurors. The process is supposed to lend

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Speaker 3: itself to a pretty searching examination of these jurors, so

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Speaker 3: you can make a discriminating choice about them. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of latitude to move to remove people by choice.

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Speaker 5: I have a bite for cause rather, I.

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Speaker 3: Haven't heard too much complaining that they wanted people removed

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Speaker 3: from cause with the judge refused to remove, which is

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Speaker 3: part of why it's going faster.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think they got rid of a lot of cause

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Speaker 3: objections the first day in one big fell swoop. But

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Speaker 3: also remember, in terms of balance, even though if you

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Speaker 3: even if you accept as a premise that Manhattan is

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Speaker 3: cut against Trump, which it clearly is, Trump only needs one,

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Speaker 3: you know, to win here, Brad needs twelve. And that's

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Speaker 3: a big difference when you have a case like Bragg has,

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Speaker 3: which is a kind of a dog's breakfast.

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Speaker 5: Of a case.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to ask you this question, Andy,

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Speaker 2: what would happen if Trump were convicted? What's the process

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Speaker 2: that would play out? Thank you for joining us. You

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Speaker 2: good to come back for one more segment?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into that like us, you know, are

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Speaker 1: they going to lock him up if they can? Is

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Speaker 1: really what we want to dive into. And what would

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Speaker 1: that look like and how would this all work? What

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Speaker 1: the process is but first up, I want to remind

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Speaker 1: everybody about the incredible work being done by the Preborn

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Speaker 1: I know there's fights in the legal realm right now,

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Speaker 1: let's dive right, And if we're speaking to Andy McCarthy

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Speaker 1: of National Review and Fox News twenty plus years Southern

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Speaker 1: District of New York prosecutor. Andy, if they find Trump guilty,

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Speaker 1: what do you think happens? I mean, give us the

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Speaker 1: timeline and the possible punishments.

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Speaker 3: Well, allowing the things that moving a little faster than

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Speaker 3: we thought, and we'll see if that continues. Let's say

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Speaker 3: the trial goes into mid to late May, maybe early June.

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Speaker 3: If he were get convicted, I think it matters a

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Speaker 3: lot what he gets convicted of, and we can come

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Speaker 3: back around and talk about that. But let's assume, for arguments,

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Speaker 3: say he gets convicted of one or more selonies in

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Speaker 3: the indictment, which are all all the charges of felonies

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Speaker 3: in the indictment, he would have a maximum sentences. I

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Speaker 3: understand the way New York groups statutory counts of four

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Speaker 3: years and sentencing is normally about three months after.

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Speaker 5: A conviction.

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Speaker 3: This is a nonviolent crime. He's a first sender in

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Speaker 3: New York. He should not get a sentence of incarceration.

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Speaker 3: But you know, if you had asked me about Alan Weiselberg,

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Speaker 3: who Bragg has prosecuted twice in the last two years,

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Speaker 3: I would have told you he shouldn't get one either.

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Speaker 3: And they have him in now where I think his

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Speaker 3: second five months stint at Rikers, So there'll be a

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Speaker 3: lot of pressure from the left, which certainly Brag and

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Speaker 3: the judge seemed to be very keen to to put

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Speaker 3: him in prison for some period of time. I think

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Speaker 3: Trump will be able to delay that. And my understanding

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Speaker 3: is the way New York appellate law works is that

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Speaker 3: once he appeals, the sentence can be you know, any

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Speaker 3: sentence imposed can be frozen until the appeal's done.

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Speaker 1: And the appeal would take well after the election.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, be into next year for sure.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, Andy, this is a crazy question.

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Speaker 2: But given it's a state charge, he doesn't if he

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Speaker 2: got elected president. How do state charges that have already

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Speaker 2: and I don't know what the president would be here

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Speaker 2: because there's truly never been one. How does state criminal

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Speaker 2: charges apply to a president of the United States if

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Speaker 2: it was a conviction that occurred prior to his election.

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Speaker 5: As you say, Clay.

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Speaker 3: The most important thing is that this has never happened before,

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Speaker 3: So you know, we're kind of spitball in here. But

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Speaker 3: my view would be the Trump Justice Department would argue

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Speaker 3: under the supremacy clause that any sentence ought to be

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Speaker 3: postponed until after his term is over. That, in other words,

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Speaker 3: the state can't execute a sentence that would prevent the

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Speaker 3: federal government from doing its ordinary functions, and I kind

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Speaker 3: of doubt that the that the state would fight that point.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know what they want here is to

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Speaker 3: get Trump convicted. You know, look, I've been surprised by

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Speaker 3: a lot of things, but I don't I know, we've got.

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Speaker 1: A million I just I have to ask this, is

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Speaker 1: there any chance that they could because Andy, what they've

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Speaker 1: done in DC is I call it warp speed, right

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Speaker 1: they or ludicrous speed. They've moved faster in the j

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Speaker 1: six trial than all my friends who are federal defense

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Speaker 1: attorneys and federal prosecutors say, like ever happens? Could they

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Speaker 1: do the sentencing much sooner than three months after if

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Speaker 1: he's found guilty?

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Speaker 5: You know, they could try.

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Speaker 3: I think his lawyers could you know, tie that.

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Speaker 5: Up for a while.

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Speaker 3: But I don't really see the big point of doing that,

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Speaker 3: fuck because again, the appeal would mean he they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be able to execute the sentence, and what they really

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Speaker 3: really want is to call him a convicted felon. I

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Speaker 3: think how much she gets sentenced beside the point. And

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Speaker 3: it could be scandalous if you put Trump in jail

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Speaker 3: when Bragg is taking serious, serious crimes and turning it

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Speaker 3: into turning them into misdemeanors or not charging them at all.

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Speaker 5: That's certainly not going to be helpful to Biden.

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Speaker 2: Andy, you heard about the left is fired up at

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Speaker 2: me for my jury tweets and comments that I've made

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Speaker 2: on this show. Do you think that I will be

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Speaker 2: arrested for jury tampering? As Eric Swallwell has requested, as

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Speaker 2: Joy Read and CNN have requested, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, no, Clay, but you know, I'm not in

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Speaker 3: New York today, and Alvin Bragg is the DA there.

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Speaker 3: He's got a different idea when you're on this side

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Speaker 3: of the political aisle than would be the case in

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Speaker 3: the normal case. In all seriousness, I think that you know,

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Speaker 3: what you say is not something I would say, but

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Speaker 3: it's not the crime of jury tampering. It's basically First

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Speaker 3: Amendment free speech. I'm you know, I like the jury system.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of these You still have some faith in

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Speaker 1: a Andy, which I appreciate. I'm not sure I do

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Speaker 1: as much, especially seeing what we're seeing for some of

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Speaker 1: these jurors. But you know, it's the best thing we got.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, one of the things we talked

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Speaker 3: about just probably a month ago was how ridiculous it

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Speaker 3: was that the civil fraud trial was just a bench

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Speaker 3: trial in front of a garron, Right, And I think

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Speaker 3: the only reason for making that point is because.

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Speaker 5: It's more fair to have a jury trial.

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Speaker 3: And the implicit in that is that we think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, twelve sensible people are more likely to come

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Speaker 3: to a correct result than one movement progressive. So you

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Speaker 3: know that's I'm still banking on that.

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Speaker 2: If there were a mistrial, let's say they couldn't get

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Speaker 2: a verdict, there's no way they could get a case rescheduled. Right,

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Speaker 2: This would basically be Bragg falling on his face if

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Speaker 2: in some way he doesn't get the felony conviction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think number one would be ridiculous

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Speaker 3: if he wanted to try it again, because if they

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Speaker 3: don't get him on this, it's going to because it's

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Speaker 3: going to be because it's a ridiculous case, which Bragg

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Speaker 3: knew in the first place, and that's why he shut

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Speaker 3: it down in twenty twenty two. If they don't get

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Speaker 3: a conviction, it's going to be because of things like

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Speaker 3: Michael Cone, which doesn't get better over time. But the

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Speaker 3: other thing, just to be totally practical, about it is

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Speaker 3: Trump's dance cards going to be filled up with you know,

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Speaker 3: classified information proceedings down in the Florida case and all

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Speaker 3: of the free trial stuff in the Washington.

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Speaker 5: Case, the Jason case.

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Speaker 3: He's going to start up again once the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: rules on immunity, because when they rule on immunity, assuming

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Speaker 3: they rule against Trump.

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Speaker 5: Which I do, then the case is good.

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Speaker 3: The jurisdiction off the case is going to go back

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Speaker 3: to Judge chuck In and she's going to start.

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Speaker 5: Having hearings and putting the pedal to the metal.

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news. It sounds like Andy, neither Trump

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Speaker 1: nor Clay are going to the Big House and going

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Speaker 1: to be cellmates, perhaps having to pick who gets top

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Speaker 1: bunk anytime soon.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's let's pray for that outcome. I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Pray for television hip. That's what. Can I tell you

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Speaker 1: one thing Andy, when Clay was on, when the heat

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Speaker 1: was turned up on Clay, you know what he said,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have Andy as my defender if I

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Speaker 1: if I actually play charges, I.

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Speaker 2: Would, I would, I would, I would hire You might

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Speaker 2: make some money off this before all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might come out of retirement to that case.

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Speaker 1: There we go, all right, everybody back to the third

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Speaker 1: hour coming up

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Speaker 3: Fe