WEBVTT - Battle for First Place vs. Falcons, Week 5 | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Books Insider Live, Casey Phillips. Here was senior

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<v Speaker 1>writer and editor Scott Smith here to get you caught

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<v Speaker 1>up on everything you need to know going into this

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<v Speaker 1>next week. And of course, if you have any questions

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<v Speaker 1>for us, all you gotta do is leave them underneath

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook Live video and we'll have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>get to those at the final segment of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, let's go and just start with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the takeaways from that game this last Sunday against

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs. What were the biggest things that other than

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<v Speaker 1>it not going how we wanted it to go, what

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<v Speaker 1>were some of the biggest things that you took away

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<v Speaker 1>from that game? Well, I guess since it's the loss,

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<v Speaker 1>you start with the not so happy stuff, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was some good stuff to game, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I'm sure. But you know, it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those games where it's frustrating to watch. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it was frustrating to be involved in because there just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to be an answer for anything the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>were doing defensively, and some of that you just have

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<v Speaker 1>to chalk up to the fact that Patrick Mahomes and

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey are phenomenal players with an incredible connection. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how you're supposed to stop the

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<v Speaker 1>play where he scrambles all around and does appear wet

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<v Speaker 1>and then flips the ball like that. Um. But overall,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that probably the part that the Buccaneers were

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<v Speaker 1>at LEAs happy about is that they didn't stop the run.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is something that has been a signature of

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<v Speaker 1>the Todd Bulls defense ever since he got here in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nineteen, and in that span they are still

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<v Speaker 1>even with that game, by far the best run defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. But they didn't have it in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wonder how much it has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the team hicks not being in there. You wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>there are you know, if guys are making mistakes, or

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't schemed up well for for that particular

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<v Speaker 1>running game or what. But it's a concern because the

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<v Speaker 1>next game we're playing against the Falcons, which is about

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<v Speaker 1>for first place surprisingly in the NFC South. The Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>are running the ball really really well, so that I

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<v Speaker 1>think would have to be a focus for the team

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<v Speaker 1>this week coming out of that last game. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's another back to back test to see if they

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<v Speaker 1>learned the lessons from this last week. That does feel

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<v Speaker 1>like running the balls. But even without Patterson, who's gone

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<v Speaker 1>on I R you'd think that would have made it where, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll starting running backs out, maybe we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that so much, but we still know that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the Falcons game plan. Yeah, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback that can run, and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>problem against Patrick Mahomes. But overall, if you look back

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<v Speaker 1>at like the to Philadelphia games last year, uh, Jalen Hurts,

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<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers actually handled that running quarterback very well, which

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<v Speaker 1>is more like what I mean. Mariota is not playing

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<v Speaker 1>at the level of jale and Hurts right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same kind of concept with r P O

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<v Speaker 1>s and and design runs and so on. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a concern on the other hand, because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about some good things as well. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out when you have Mike Evans and Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Godwin in the game, you're passing attack is a lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>Who thought so, yeah, you know, and Donovan Smith being

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<v Speaker 1>back as well, and Mike Evans comes right back from

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<v Speaker 1>that one game suspension that thirty yard catch right down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle and for the first big play. The game

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<v Speaker 1>ends up with two touchdowns hundred three yards, just vintage

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Evans. The second touchdown catch that back corner of fade,

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't you can't defend it. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous that look at that play. It's amazing, a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>throw and a perfect catch and there is nothing you

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<v Speaker 1>could do. So in the process of that game, he

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<v Speaker 1>also broke another record. So the guy that already holds

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks all time records for touchdowns, receiving, touchdowners, receptions,

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards, probably a few other things I'm not thinking of,

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<v Speaker 1>is also now the all time leader in most yards

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<v Speaker 1>from scrimmage, passing, a record that's stuff for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time by James Wilder, who had rushing yards and

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards Mike stune at all but ten yards of

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<v Speaker 1>the air. But just yet another sign post another obvious

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<v Speaker 1>sign that Mike Evans is the most accomplished offensive player

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<v Speaker 1>in Buccaneers history. Unbelievable, and I think it's interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>you pointed out. I mean, of course, Donovan Smith coming

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<v Speaker 1>back was going to make Brady feel like he could

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<v Speaker 1>probably hold onto it a little bit longer wait for

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<v Speaker 1>some of those routes to develop. But also the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Chris Godwin was alongside Mike Evans that it's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to just have their skill set of the number

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<v Speaker 1>of actual catches Chris gets, the number of catches Mike gets,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the effect they have on each other and

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<v Speaker 1>what they forced defenses to do. Is that something that

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<v Speaker 1>you've noticed of how much they need each other to

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<v Speaker 1>each have their own individual success. It definitely helps both

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And you know, it didn't hurt that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks also had Russell Gauge and did Julio Jones for

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<v Speaker 1>a half, and they were making the passes to the

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<v Speaker 1>back's work, I mean Leonard for Rashad Why combined for

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<v Speaker 1>more yards. But yeah, and I think the thing you

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<v Speaker 1>saw Chris Godwin was that sort of missing element of

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<v Speaker 1>being able to work the middle of the field, being

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<v Speaker 1>an effective weapon out of the slot. Buckner's didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>find a solution for that in the in the games

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<v Speaker 1>that Chris did two and half games that crystals out

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think that made a big difference, even

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<v Speaker 1>if I mean his fifth I think seven catches for

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<v Speaker 1>yards is a good day, not overwhelming, but the effect

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<v Speaker 1>he had on the entire offense, as you said, was big. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was going to know that as

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<v Speaker 1>much as they gave up more points than they had

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<v Speaker 1>the first three games combined, but then they scored more

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns and they had the first three games combined, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going to be about that complete game where

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<v Speaker 1>finally now it does feel like the good news was

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<v Speaker 1>the offense got going and getting the running backs involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the past game. As much as it was unfortunate

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<v Speaker 1>that there was what three yards rushing for the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>and the game, yes that at least, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>tab over a hundred yards in the receiving game from that,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a huge thing. So it felt like at least,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the game didn't go how you wanted and

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<v Speaker 1>there were some areas that didn't go as well defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>but offensively, it felt like you found some things you

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<v Speaker 1>had not so far, and one of those things was

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<v Speaker 1>throwing the ball to learn from Rashad White and Roshot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Coach Bowls had been saying for two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to get the other backs more involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he specifically meant Rashad White, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have a sort of a two headed monster

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<v Speaker 1>now developing with White and those two guys combined for

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<v Speaker 1>I think a hundred and seven yards and a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of those passes were really quick throws that

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Lennard would get like ten or twelve

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<v Speaker 1>yards out of, and the same thing with Shot White.

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<v Speaker 1>So it worked really well, and you like to see

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<v Speaker 1>Rashade getting involved in in fact um with cam Brad

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the game with the concussion, Kate Dotten played his

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<v Speaker 1>highest percentage of snaps yet, and you have Luke Getta

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<v Speaker 1>keep playing every snap of guard and you look up

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<v Speaker 1>from the end of the game, you realize, man, the

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<v Speaker 1>rookies played a time played a lot. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 1>at that Logan Hall. He's kind of been getting about

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<v Speaker 1>that many snaps every game. Obviously, Luke played every single snap,

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<v Speaker 1>a much bigger percentage for Rashad White and Kay Doton. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake mart Is in the game as much as you need.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those snaps for Potokasi were on special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>And then co Keith, you know, he had his first

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<v Speaker 1>career catch. It was kind of a nice spinning catch

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<v Speaker 1>tight end there. So I mean I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on a team that has a lot of veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the oldest team in the league by average age.

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<v Speaker 1>To see this many rookies making an impact, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I mean, even just to have seven rookies on

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<v Speaker 1>your roster and active on game day, it's pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>It shows what a great job Jason Lett and those

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<v Speaker 1>guys did with drafting, with you know, signing even like

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, to have him in there, even as

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<v Speaker 1>an undrafted guy, it's pretty incredible, and it shows I

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<v Speaker 1>think the potential as the season goes on, because we

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<v Speaker 1>know with rookies, every snap is a big deal, every

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<v Speaker 1>game is a big deal in their development and their learning,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think that when you see how much

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<v Speaker 1>is dependent on these young guys, it will only get

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<v Speaker 1>better as the season goes on and they get more experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably particularly true for Luke Kettucky. Yes, absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I know. Also the Bucks defense we talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not the game they want, they expect, or

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<v Speaker 1>the game compared to the three before, because they came

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<v Speaker 1>in just guns blazing in terms of being the stingiest

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<v Speaker 1>defense and not allowing points going into it. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you see that was different this week or just overall

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<v Speaker 1>where the defense still stands now even with a game

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<v Speaker 1>that did not really live up to their standards well,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that's in in the overall picture. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself, do I think that this game was

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<v Speaker 1>the aberration or were the first three games the aberration?

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<v Speaker 1>And the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're going to go through a season

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<v Speaker 1>and allow just nine points per game. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that you're going to see a lot of outings

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<v Speaker 1>like this one. It's a very I think it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a very talented defense with a lot of very good

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<v Speaker 1>players at every level. And what's kind of h I

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<v Speaker 1>think has become a signature of this team is how

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<v Speaker 1>many different people are contributing. And this particular game was

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<v Speaker 1>due to injury because Logan Ryan left early and Carlton

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<v Speaker 1>Davis left in the second half, so Kean O'Neill played

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<v Speaker 1>a good amount of the game in the Logan Ryan role,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Sean Murphy Bunny got his first shot, which

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<v Speaker 1>we knew was coming at some point, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes out there and gets an interception the eighth

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<v Speaker 1>of his career. You know that he has now intercepted

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick Mahomes. He just shows

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<v Speaker 1>up for the big name. Well, I mean he also

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<v Speaker 1>he also intercepted Gardner Minshew and Sailor Heinekes. Tho, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yeah, I have to play all the big

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks for him to get his picks. But um, that

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<v Speaker 1>just put another person in the contribute. Contribution is the

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<v Speaker 1>word I'm looking for. I guess, uh column, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. It just occurred to me the other

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<v Speaker 1>day when I was looking at our defensive stats, how

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<v Speaker 1>many different people had these big stats already. The Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>have the most players in the league that have at

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<v Speaker 1>least half a sack. They have them tied for the

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<v Speaker 1>most players with the least an interception, tied for the

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<v Speaker 1>most players with the quarterback hit, and second behind San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco with the most players with the tackle for loss.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody, and that just speaks I think so much

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<v Speaker 1>to not only just the depth of talent on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>but the scheme that Todd Bowls uses, where he uses

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<v Speaker 1>players in so many different roles that that's what keeps

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<v Speaker 1>offenses on their toes, not knowing are you blitzing, are

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<v Speaker 1>you dropping back, or that you know that. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what makes offense is so confused, because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at these stats, there's a reason they have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>who's coming who's not. And it's incredible and that confusion

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<v Speaker 1>for them ends up meaning that these guys, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me that he can have a scheme that

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<v Speaker 1>is confusing for the offense and yet not for the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That they all reilier at a point where they know

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<v Speaker 1>their roles. It's a good point, and they've been working

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<v Speaker 1>towards that for long for a really long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of communication and the consistency I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Dean was on the radio show this week with

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<v Speaker 1>me and he talked about how different it is now

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<v Speaker 1>of the way he learns and how he understands that

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<v Speaker 1>bulls can tell him something and he immediately gets it

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<v Speaker 1>and that wasn't the case his first year. And he

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<v Speaker 1>said the bulls can now tell that too, that it's

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<v Speaker 1>so different and the bulls wore just say it and

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<v Speaker 1>be done. And I thought that was so a great sign.

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<v Speaker 1>And watch so many of these guys and a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Jamal is having such a great year. Um, So

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<v Speaker 1>looking ahead to this game in Atlanta, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think are going to be the biggest things that we

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<v Speaker 1>want to see based on this last game to show

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<v Speaker 1>that it was an aberration and that they learned from

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<v Speaker 1>it and have been able to fix a few things. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you want to get a quicker start, for

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. Fast starts have definitely not been something that

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<v Speaker 1>Buckners have had much of this year. And you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about you threwout the obvious fact that the Bucklers ran

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<v Speaker 1>six times for three yards in that game. Right, that's terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody's making excuses or trying to say that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good game in terms of running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But you also have to at least give the context

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Um, there were only six carries because we

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<v Speaker 1>were down fourteen three by the time. We had three

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<v Speaker 1>carries and uh and one of those was the lost

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<v Speaker 1>for four yards and then it was twenty one three

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<v Speaker 1>moments later, so you were passing the entire time. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of context to it. And Rashad White

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<v Speaker 1>two of his three carries were from either the two

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<v Speaker 1>or the one yard line, one of which was a

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<v Speaker 1>one yeard touched on. Hey a one year touched on

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<v Speaker 1>in third and one is fantastic play, but doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>help the stats. So that being said, I think the Buckers,

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<v Speaker 1>while Todd Bowls constantly says it's not and Byron leftism,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily about balance. They don't need to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball fifty time time every game, but they need

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to win in a variety of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you're gonna need to be able to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and I think they have the pieces to

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball. Harold Goodwin good he was saying yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking at the pudding because Todd Bowls was

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<v Speaker 1>gone for a day, and he was saying that some

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys on the interior, they do need to

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<v Speaker 1>play a little bit better. They understand the context and

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<v Speaker 1>they like where they're at, but they do think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get better, right, And so they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get better. And I think learn for Net and Rashad

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<v Speaker 1>White have the tools to give you a good rushing game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you need to start quicker so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get off script and have to throw the ball

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two times. I agree, And then this is a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect to our question that we had from Richard who said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we see more jumbo packages to get more production in

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<v Speaker 1>the run game. I'm not sure that that necessary would

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<v Speaker 1>make that much of a difference. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>put the jumbo package out there, you were probably you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling the defense you're probably gonna run the ball, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think controlling the line of scrimmage has

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<v Speaker 1>been what's been going well from the Buccaneers in the

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<v Speaker 1>running game in the last few games. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just trying trying to put a big package out there,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense is going to respond with a heavy front,

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<v Speaker 1>are you really making it any better? I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they just need to run their normal expected

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<v Speaker 1>plays the way they expect them to be run. They

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<v Speaker 1>just need to be better at the execution of what

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<v Speaker 1>they're of what they want to do, right, all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to do it for us on this

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Bucks Insider Live. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>being with us. We'll be back here next week to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that Falcons game.