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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast is day dreaming about Baker Mayfield's

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Speaker 1: mustand Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL

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Speaker 1: Podcast presented by Sirius x M. My name is Dan

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Speaker 1: hands As. I'm in a room that's just overflowing with

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Speaker 1: heroes and I couldn't be more excited about it. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Colleen Wolf and Gregg Rosa thought what he

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Speaker 1: is up? Boys and girls? Hey Dane, Hey, Hi, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, what's up? Superside Shoween's back? Very rich here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's all I ever hear about on Twitter. The history

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Speaker 1: has been very rich there. Huh. You just Colleen, you

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Speaker 1: just got back from a world wind tour across the

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Speaker 1: NFL landscape, and I saw I was following your Twitter

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Speaker 1: and your social media. Just great work as always moving

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Speaker 1: the needle of your brand. But you you you pointed

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Speaker 1: out that a lot of a t N listeners will

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Speaker 1: give you little shout outs that are in the code

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Speaker 1: of our show. Yes, it's one of my favorite things. Ever.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I'm out in the field, whether it's for Thursday

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Speaker 1: Fame at training camps, I'll here Katty Fox, or who's

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Speaker 1: would you say? The demographic of these shoutouts are? What

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Speaker 1: are they? What's type of person they're coming from? Demographic

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Speaker 1: range wise, it's usually, um, it's usually white males. But

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Speaker 1: I love them. It's like I text, it's like our

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Speaker 1: secret hand. You ever get strange looks from people you're

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Speaker 1: with when they yell like a tiny box? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: get tiny box a lot too. You need to get

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Speaker 1: an HI representative? Do you need help? Tiny Box makes

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Speaker 1: me laugh the most though, And that wouldn't be the

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Speaker 1: weirdest thing that's happened to you on Inside Training Camp tone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is very true. Um, And let it be known

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Speaker 1: the place. We are a rainbow podcast, Greg, and you're

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Speaker 1: proud of it. I know you are. How do you

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Speaker 1: mean we? What do you mean? I mean we? The show?

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Speaker 1: I think our show collectively, all of us, all across

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Speaker 1: the world. We have listeners all cross this country Internet.

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Speaker 1: Unless you have individually, you have issues. No, I thought

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Speaker 1: you meant like the four real weird, real quick. I

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Speaker 1: thought you met the four hosts of the show. And

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Speaker 1: then I know anyone had been to and me lately,

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Speaker 1: I love all the listeners. Oh now we're fully covering.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Colleen. Well, welcome back, Connie. It's been it's

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Speaker 1: been a minute, and you picked a great show to

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Speaker 1: come back, because a full house and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: big news and we're gonna get to it in a

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Speaker 1: little bit around jadeveon Clowney and uh John McClain over

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Speaker 1: at the Houston Chronicle reporting that he wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: of it. A trade goes down involving Clowney imminently. Perhaps, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's throw out some juicy trade scenarios ahead of the

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Speaker 1: regular season, and let it be known that this isn't

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Speaker 1: July anymore. This isn't you know, this isn't our June

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Speaker 1: fourteenth show. There's none of this fancy boy stuff where

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Speaker 1: we're whimsical and just thrown out. Oh yeah, Bret fab

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Speaker 1: but they both go to the jots and all this stuff. No, no,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be real trade. That's fired real, I think. So. No,

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Speaker 1: don't read into it. There's too much reading into things.

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Speaker 1: Right now, It's going to be real trades that could

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Speaker 1: affect teams in a positive way. In twenty nineteen, this

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Speaker 1: a very nice morning. Colleen used to be Ken Griffy Jr.

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Speaker 1: very weird show so far. All right, let's um so juicy.

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Build a trade. That's what you've named it, right, sure,

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Speaker 1: like build a bear except for clowning. Write that down.

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Speaker 1: Thank you us. And then we'll hit a little hard

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Speaker 1: Indian Aple Colts and their superstar quarterback Tuesday evening, coach

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Speaker 1: general manager Chris Ballard told reporters on a conference that's

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Speaker 1: happens by into your quarterbacks. Malarchy about now everyone's rooting

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Speaker 1: against us? That story that was out there, Let's show

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Speaker 1: me the lie on that one. Oh come on please

427
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Speaker 1: quote was because of the hype. The hype is real.

428
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Speaker 1: Showing me the lie there there is it said that

429
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Speaker 1: people now are are rooting for them to fail. Oh

430
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Speaker 1: my god, that Patriot say nobody believes in us? You

431
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: feel that market For every NFL analysts who has made

432
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Speaker 1: that point this off season, I'd be a rich man.

433
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Speaker 1: It's difference between being an NFL analyst and finding things.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. If people rooting against it,

435
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Speaker 1: if they go one in five, tell me that the

436
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Speaker 1: brushback won't be totally. But that's how everybody's going to

437
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Speaker 1: point to the hype fans and media of the Browns,

438
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: and no team has gotten more like But I think

439
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Speaker 1: maybe Baker I didn't read the entire two sides he's

440
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Speaker 1: talking about. Within the league, I think that's true. I

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Speaker 1: think other teams are like, give me a break on

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Speaker 1: the Browns, Like, here's their problems. This is a team

443
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Speaker 1: that's won seven games next year, and they don't like

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Speaker 1: the hype by that let's jump into the fish tank.

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Speaker 1: Let's you know, let's jump in. Okay, it's gotta be

446
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: ready for the fish tank. This is not good. This

447
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: is not good. Kenyan Drake one of the most important players,

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Speaker 1: uh for the Dolphins. He's he's in a boot and

449
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Speaker 1: uh he's got a foot injury. And Dolphins coach Brian

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Speaker 1: Floor is acknowledged that Drake's injury it's gonna take a

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Speaker 1: quote while to heal. They hope he'll be ready for

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Speaker 1: week one, but as of today, Wednesday, he's walking around

453
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Speaker 1: in that boot. And we again, now we're getting close

454
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Speaker 1: three you know, three weeks away. When you're starting running

455
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Speaker 1: back is in a Bootmark, that's a problem. I like

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Speaker 1: killing Balage the backup, and I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: call him back up. I mean, there's a bit of

458
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Speaker 1: a time share. But if you look at and it's

459
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Speaker 1: just one preseason game, Drake dominated the first team reps.

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Speaker 1: I'd want to see the second, third, and fourth before

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Speaker 1: we jump into that whole conversation. But you've got two

462
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Speaker 1: good running backs. Drake, I think, is someone that's just

463
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Speaker 1: been most people probably if you had him on fantasy like,

464
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Speaker 1: why was he not used a lot more under Adam

465
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Speaker 1: Gaze or was he used in confusing ways? It's this

466
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Speaker 1: only adds to the conflict. If it wasn't for Drake,

467
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Speaker 1: the Miami miracle would have never happened. The miracle in Miami,

468
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: not even in the books. I thought he might be

469
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Speaker 1: a trade candidate, if not this month and during the season,

470
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Speaker 1: because he's in the last year of his contract and

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Speaker 1: just feels like and I think teams would be in

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Speaker 1: want you want to build her own. Well, they don't

473
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Speaker 1: seem to like him as much as other people up

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Speaker 1: a career year though, I'm like, we know what the

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Speaker 1: new coaching staff thinks entirely, but Gaze used him in

476
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Speaker 1: a very weird way. I thought that's fair. Let's stay

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Speaker 1: in the tank. Cameron Wolf he's a reporter for ESPN. No,

478
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately Wolves stick together. Wolf Pack. Yeah, wolf Pack would

479
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Speaker 1: have been better than wolf Nation just like, hey, Wolf's

480
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Speaker 1: made for Like that's kind of just my family, the

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Speaker 1: wolf Pack. But Josh Rosen has been getting quote true

482
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Speaker 1: starter burn this week. Uh, Greg, you've covered the league

483
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Speaker 1: for many, many years now, Please illuminate the audience. What

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Speaker 1: does it mean to get true starter burn. I think

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Speaker 1: it's misleading because all he's doing is getting some reps

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Speaker 1: with the first team, but less reps even than Ryan Fitzpatrick. Like,

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Speaker 1: this hasn't been a situation where they've even given him

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Speaker 1: a taste of it. They've treated him like a like

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Speaker 1: a backup, like a true backup that doesn't even get

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Speaker 1: a single snap with the first team all of camp,

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Speaker 1: and now they give him like a little bit because

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Speaker 1: this is the week to do it. It's the second

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Speaker 1: preseason week. If there's any time he's going to get

494
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Speaker 1: with the starters, this is it. In the second preseason game,

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Speaker 1: you start Fitzpatrick for you know, a couple of series.

496
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Speaker 1: Rosen gets his chance with the starters, and after that

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Speaker 1: it's all Fitzpatrick. They've given him no run even in

498
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Speaker 1: these practices, it's supposedly mostly Fitzpatrick. They I don't think

499
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Speaker 1: they have any interest in starting Josh Rose in Week one.

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Speaker 1: But how about this what they've shown. How don't we

501
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Speaker 1: separate the football analysis of the Dolphins with just the

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Speaker 1: parlance of the NFL. Please give us breakdown Burn is

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Speaker 1: true starter? Not accepting that, you're not accepting it as

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Speaker 1: a phrase or as that it's true in this game

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Speaker 1: three series is true starter burn playing with the starters

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Speaker 1: a starter reps and now it's it's building. I like

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Speaker 1: the turn of phrase, true starter burn, but why not

508
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Speaker 1: just getting more reps with start reps in key situations?

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Speaker 1: And in this res's it's interchangeable with the word run.

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Speaker 1: He's getting some run with the starters. It's trying to

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Speaker 1: be the straw that stirs the offenses. Drink. Were you

512
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Speaker 1: the one that was against it? I hate it? I

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Speaker 1: hate it, but of course I just said it. Where

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Speaker 1: is it? You do? Keep hearing it on our network?

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Speaker 1: I hear it on every network already, are like, send

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Speaker 1: it off into space. I think Erica can do that.

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Speaker 1: We have the power as as a podcast that that

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Speaker 1: phrase will no longer be said. By a decree from

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. I'm not gonna use the phrase. But as

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Speaker 1: Dan knows, there's only one man who gets to use that,

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Speaker 1: and it's Reggie Jackson who created the phrase in regards

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Speaker 1: to the late term. And it sure did three homers.

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Speaker 1: Was that all right? So back to Yankee history it

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Speaker 1: goes where it must stay. One more item from the

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Speaker 1: fish Tank, Minca Fitzpatrick the versatile defensive back of the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: um Oh. Mark Kelly, reporter for the South Florida Sun Sentinel,

527
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Speaker 1: sent out a tweet. I don't want to be the

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Speaker 1: bearer of bad news, but Mika Fitzpatrick isn't playing well

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Speaker 1: and guess who responds? Got up in the replies Minca's mom,

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Speaker 1: Manka's mom. That's not a mom joke, guys, it is

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Speaker 1: actually his mother, Maca's mom. Mincan Melissa replied to Omar, No,

532
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Speaker 1: you would never want to do that. Maybe it's because

533
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Speaker 1: he is not a strong safety and is being used

534
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: to suit other people's skill set, not his own. But

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Speaker 1: you know, let's just keep ripping him because we know

536
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Speaker 1: it breaks your heart to do that. I mean, is

537
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Speaker 1: there anything better than mom moms for the win? And

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Speaker 1: then Maka comes back off the practice field and he

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Speaker 1: gets asked about it, and he kind of agrees with

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Speaker 1: his mom. It is what it is, he told the

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Speaker 1: Miami Harold. She's being honest and saying how she feels.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it. I wish you would have

543
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Speaker 1: addressed me first and talked to me first before it happens,

544
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Speaker 1: but it is what it is. She feels very strongly.

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Speaker 1: He added, She's not wrong. Coach has asked me to

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Speaker 1: do something right now. I got to do what they

547
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Speaker 1: asked me to do. If we have to have some

548
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Speaker 1: discussions in the future, will have those discussions. West, What

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00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: exactly is the issue with Fitzpatrick. They're not giving him

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to be his true best self. There's no

551
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: bad guys here. They have many injuries at strong safety

552
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: and they have a guy they want to watch a

553
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: free safety, Bobby McCain. So they're having Minca because I mean,

554
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Flores comes from Belichick. You've got to play multiple positions.

555
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: Is important to have versatility. It's important to have emergent

556
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Speaker 1: break case in case of emergency players. They're seeing if

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Speaker 1: Menca Fitzpatrick can play in the box, and his opinion is,

558
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Speaker 1: I'm two hundred five pounds not two hunding twenty. I'm

559
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: not best suited for the box, but I'm doing this

560
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Speaker 1: because my coach has asked me to and it's best

561
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Speaker 1: for the team. His mom is a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: Taking this is where like, you don't need to overreact

563
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Speaker 1: to what they're doing. In the second week of training camp,

564
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Speaker 1: they're just they're messing around. But it did get me

565
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Speaker 1: thinking along with Jonathan Abrams the Raiders Safety, who mentioned

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Speaker 1: his mom is younger than Tom Brady his daddy. Um,

567
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Speaker 1: as parents are a little more social media savvy, you

568
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Speaker 1: know that there are agents or whatever. It's just gonna

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Speaker 1: become There's gonna be more storylines like this, like Mom's coming,

570
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Speaker 1: Mom's coming at you. Because in the past, moms they weren't.

571
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Speaker 1: They were the French they're on. Yeah, mom's moms are different.

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Speaker 1: But this story reminds me of Marcus Vick when he

573
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Speaker 1: used to tweet about Michael. Vick would always be like

574
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Speaker 1: have to he would have to answer these questions and

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what the conversations are up is that

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Speaker 1: the old man like can stop. It does hit me

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Speaker 1: like as an age indicator when I see mom's name Melissa,

578
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Speaker 1: because growing up, I never knew any mom's name Melissa.

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Speaker 1: It was just the girl's name of someone in your

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Speaker 1: class or something like a third grade classmate. Now their moms,

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Speaker 1: we've gotten at moms are always dying. There is a

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Speaker 1: song from the early seventies called Sweet Melissa, which would

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Speaker 1: leads some people were saying the name didn't exist with us,

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Speaker 1: just that there weren't in my town. There weren't flushed

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Speaker 1: with mom's name Melissa. It's much more. It's probably dying off.

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Speaker 1: I feel like not a lot of Melissa. Do you

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Speaker 1: like the name Melissa? I like it a lot, but

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Speaker 1: it reminds me of like a younger person than a mom.

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Speaker 1: But I guess moms are young like mom could but

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Speaker 1: you could be a mom at a very young age.

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Speaker 1: So I will say, as a can we just clip that.

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Speaker 1: It's just like I don't want to get you know,

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Speaker 1: it's I respect them all, but the blinders on as

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Speaker 1: an eighties baby, it is a little unusual now when

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Speaker 1: you see like a thirty nine year old Tiffany. Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tiffany would be a better example in that worldly we are.

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Speaker 1: Let's just down to the sixth most popular girl's name.

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Speaker 1: Where's Tiffany at? Tiffany? Because Tiffany around. I mean I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of that too. Later on was after

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Speaker 1: saved by the Bell? Of course, where's Tiffany at? Because

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Speaker 1: that was a monster in the eighties. We have our

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Speaker 1: own Tiffany Blackman on the network. Tiffany the song might

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Speaker 1: have had something to do with it. Oh, it's getting varied,

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Speaker 1: not even in the top thousand stuff. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I trust those sites. But finally in the news. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: anything else mark about the names? No, just like are

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Speaker 1: they pulling those rankings from true updated sense this or

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Speaker 1: is it like just their own thing? I believe it's

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Speaker 1: the two thousand ten cents is uh? Finally in the news,

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Speaker 1: some big behind the scenes NFL news. Uh. The NFL

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Speaker 1: and its efforts to get involved war and find different

612
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Speaker 1: ways to promote social justice, has partnered with rock Nation,

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Speaker 1: the entertainment company founded by Jay Z, and they've agreed

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Speaker 1: to lead the league's endeavors in music in entertainment. As

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Speaker 1: part of this long term partnership, rock Nation will advise

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Speaker 1: on the selection of artists for NFL events like the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, especially a Super Bowl, but other things as well,

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Speaker 1: and also play key role in the production and promotion

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Speaker 1: of new music. Also, it ties Rock nations Inspire Change

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Speaker 1: initiative with the NFL and its massive platform, which is

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Um, there's a lot to the story,

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Speaker 1: and there was a meeting between Jay Z and Roger

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Speaker 1: Goodell that was that coming to light right as we

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Speaker 1: went upstairs to the show. But from my perspective, as

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Speaker 1: someone who's worked here for a while and covered a

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Speaker 1: lot of the halftime shows. Uh, this is much bigger

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Speaker 1: than the super Bowl halftime show. But I will say

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl halftime show needed help. It kind of

629
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Speaker 1: hit a low watermark um in Atlanta with Maroon Five,

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Speaker 1: where the NFL and Maroon Five got just savaged to

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Speaker 1: the point where they canceled the super Bowl press conference

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Speaker 1: because it had just become such a um a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: So bringing in jay Z, first of all, it took

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Speaker 1: that shirt off. He changed everything. But bringing in jay

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Speaker 1: Z and his team, I'm sure that is not that's

636
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: going to freshen things up. Uh. And also something that Colleen,

637
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan of the hip hop.

638
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: See I'm so excited about that because I feel like

639
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: we're going to get a new mix of We might

640
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: finally now see what the NFL and the halftime show

641
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: is really held off on. Aside from um, you know,

642
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: little guest stints here in a cameo as Miss Elliot

643
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: comes to mind, but there have been many and maybe

644
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: some actual hip pop acts which won't please everyone. What

645
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: was that Ricky finally doing this thing? But I think

646
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: it's for the good because what happened and it was

647
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: really funny. Okay, um, yeah, I'm excited about it because

648
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: I thought for sure when we were in Atlanta last

649
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: year for the super Bowl, we would maybe see some

650
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: good hip hop acts. And that's what I mean. When

651
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: you look at the Atlanta rap scene, it's vast and

652
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: we didn't get that last year. So big, that's right.

653
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: Jay Z was asked about jay Z famously put the

654
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: NFL on blast, like in the last single that they

655
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: from the Beyonce album that they released. I liked it.

656
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: I think it is underrated album, not the point, but

657
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: I just love it. Yeah. What was the line basically

658
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: that he didn't need he turned down the NFL. We

659
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: don't need him. We're in stadiums to h He was

660
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: asked like working with the NFL and in despite Colin

661
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Kaepernick not having a job and he had. He had

662
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: a pretty good answer for that, just saying like this

663
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: is kind of the next the next step, like Colin Kaepernick,

664
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: knew was more than just himself that he wasn't about

665
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick having a job. It was about trying to

666
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: have a platform and make changes in jay Z with

667
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: with part of this deal, is saying that their company

668
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: is going to do that. But that also reminded me

669
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: is this is the season where people basically have stopped

670
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: considering that Colin Kaepernick could work again because it hasn't

671
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: been a story at all. He's only thirty one years old.

672
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: He's out there, you know, working out, according to social

673
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: media and all that. But this is kind of the

674
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: season where no one's even brought up the idea of

675
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick joining the team anymore. Very true, Wes, you

676
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: just got a beep that was not meeper. That's what's

677
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: happening in the news. Alright. Hard Knocks Episode two rolled

678
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: out on HBO Go. Good job, by the way, shouts

679
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: to HBO go. It used to be a new episode

680
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: comes out and then it shows up the next morning

681
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: on the HBO Go and you're like, you know, Twitter

682
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: on your thumbs. Now they put it up in real

683
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: time change. It changed everything because now I don't know,

684
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: but I watch it with Simone because she it's something

685
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: that shows she enjoys and like it. It's very voyeuristic

686
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: and what's happening inside this team. But in the old days,

687
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: we used to have our podcast pretty early the next

688
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: morning and I remember having to wake up at the

689
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: crack of dawn to try to watch these Hard Cops

690
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: hard Hard Knocks episodes Hard Cops to show you watch

691
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: late at night. That that was a fire drill. I'll

692
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: take this in a second. Um yeah, Hard Knocks as expected.

693
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: It was Antonio Brown heavy um so that I thought,

694
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about on on Monday's show how

695
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: it was kind of an important episode for Hard Knocks

696
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: because will they give you access and we didn't really

697
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: greg get access. Uh, And that we got access to

698
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown who talked to Hard Knocks cameras showed his feet,

699
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: said that his feet were circumcised, which is, you know,

700
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: meeting sushi while watching that, and I was like, this

701
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: is disgusting. It was so gross saying your feet have

702
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: been circumcisedes basically total weird guy behavior. But that's what

703
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is. Um. But what we didn't really get

704
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: was any peak behind battle lines at the Raiders facility.

705
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: There was a blink and you'll miss it UM shot

706
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: of Gruden in a coach's only meeting, kind of speaking,

707
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of talking to himself saying, has anyone seen my

708
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: friend a B I wish he was here, but we

709
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: don't get anything. But there are a couple of little

710
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: moments like that. Another one where the coach another assistant

711
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: was talking to him and Gruden was grumbling and you

712
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: almost saw Gruden stopped talking as if he knows he's miked,

713
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: and like there were little moments where you could see

714
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: some legit frustration and I thought they split the difference.

715
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: They also made news. I mean, it is Hard Knocks.

716
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: You're not expecting them to make news. And no one

717
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: had any of that info from Antonio Brown, so about

718
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: the exact what happened the day he was treated, which

719
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: was very detailed and rather gross, training his feet, all

720
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: that details. Now, they punted essentially on the helmet talk

721
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: for the most part, we got um essentially just an

722
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: NFL news update and some live schreiber um you know,

723
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: v o uh, and they kind of teased more on

724
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: that's coming next week. But you know, the more I

725
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: thought about it, and there was out there, people were

726
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: taking it to extremes saying this was potentially leading to

727
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: this episode, Hard Knocks jumped the shark moment. If we

728
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: don't get inside info on this, it's an extremely sensitive

729
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: situation for the Raiders. At this moment and you see

730
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: it and how Gruden handled the situation, because I think

731
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: he kind of did handle this well in terms of crisis.

732
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: Can role backing Brown not making inflammatory comments to the media.

733
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if he does that in two thousand two,

734
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: Remember he took on Keyshawn Johnson. It's a different situation,

735
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: but he kind of stayed out of the way, made

736
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: sure not to throw any kerosene on the flames. And

737
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: now Brown's back at camp as of yesterday, and Gruden

738
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: was speaking positively that he was gonna be there, and

739
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: he was gonna be there Z receiver, and everything was

740
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: gonna be great. Maybe that's what ends up happening and

741
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: they survived this. But to West's point, because West, I

742
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: thought you made a good point, uh last week, and

743
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: I touched on it in my right up in NFL

744
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: dot Com. You just wonder this whole culture rebuild, where

745
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: does Antonio Brown actually fit in. I know he makes

746
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: the team better from a skill present a skill aspect,

747
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: but I'm watching this and he's getting he does always

748
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: talks to this young team, trying to beat him up,

749
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: build him up, and then you hear uh the narrator

750
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: be like Antonio Brown has decided to leave camp. It's like, well,

751
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: is that is that the guy that you want in

752
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: the building when you're trying to re established the Raiders culture. Well,

753
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: if you look at their allocation of resources, money, what

754
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: have you since John Gruden took over, he'd be nonplussed.

755
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: If you're looking for some kind of pattern or plan

756
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: or cohesion, I just don't. It's all over the map.

757
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: I would also say, you know, we've followed bad teams

758
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: that have talked about culture change one coach, one GM

759
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: after the other for decades plus and without good players.

760
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: Culture change is a lot of hot air, or it

761
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: certainly can be in the NFL, and I think the

762
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: change with Antonio Brown always would come on the field.

763
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: And I feel I think these Hard Knocks episodes, you

764
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: either you're either riding with Gruden if you're or you're not.

765
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: He is the rage. I thought he was the raging

766
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: star of last night's show. Whether you find him likable

767
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: or you don't, so to me, I I started to

768
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: like him a little bit more. And I don't know

769
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: if he has a whole lot more to say on

770
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown behind the scenes, to be honest, because I'm

771
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: sure he's got stuff he's not letting us see. But

772
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: his job is to prepare not just at Aneal Brown

773
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: and figured that out, but nine other guys and a

774
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: bunch of other coaches. And how much time and energy

775
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: can you spend on a guy who's not there at

776
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: the car said it, Well, when a guy's not here

777
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, we just got to press on. Like

778
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: they don't deal with it the way that we do.

779
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: They knew what they were getting into with a b

780
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: as well. I mean I thought that from last night, Mark,

781
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you were so dead on with Gruden just being the start.

782
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: Right from the jump, he pulls the bait and switch

783
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: on everybody and he's like, welcome to week two of

784
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: the preseason. Everybody say hi, and then he's like, all right, now,

785
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: let's get down to business. I ain't better fun execution.

786
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: I want better etiquette, but more than anything, I want

787
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: better execution. Are we clear on that I want better?

788
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, oh my god, Okay, Jesus. Yeah. But

789
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: I loved his interaction with the backup quarterbacks to where

790
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: he's like, I have a little personality today. Well here's

791
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: the thing, like you, It's I always wonder like it's

792
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: him and being brutally art on his quarterbacks, which is

793
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: what he's sort of famous, is that helping anyone, Like

794
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: first of all, you can't you can't train Mike Glennon

795
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: or Nathan Peterman to be natural leaders, Like it's they're

796
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: not gonna suddenly become Christmas, like the guys that are

797
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: like leading an entire team because Gruden says, can you guys,

798
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: can you talk a little more? And and Gruden's kind

799
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: of famous for this. I mean he's it's so funny

800
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: because he's a coach who goes through the emotions like

801
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: a fan, like when Glennon, Like at first he loves Glennon,

802
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I love glenn and then after he throws it out,

803
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? At one point he

804
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: just yells out to nobody and to me, this is

805
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: very this is John Gruden nutshell, And to nobody just goes,

806
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: let's play some football here, Like no one's listening to him.

807
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: He's just like going crazy, was running out of lifespan.

808
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: He I mean, it is funny. I don't think anyone's

809
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: um house house mouse, Like I don't think anyone's safer

810
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: than Derek Carr. This is a backup quarterback competition. There

811
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: will be no clear winner. It will just be who

812
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: survives and takes that spot. Um. So that that was

813
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: a takeaway for me. Connie, Oh my god, I'm so

814
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: many Max Crosby, Um who liked him? Oh, I loved him.

815
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: That he got hurt? But his song was that t

816
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: and anything. Oh my god, that was great. Like I

817
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: wasn't sure how it was going to be at first,

818
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: and then he came right in and everyone's dancing, humming,

819
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: singing along with him. So but the Renvere had maybe

820
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: the worst Hard Knocks performance ever in twenty years. That's

821
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: lean on me. That's the closest I've ever seen to

822
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: anyone singing exactly like me. Two of those this season

823
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: is enough. What else? Mayock needs desperately needs some block.

824
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: He has to wear it. I'm worried about him. I

825
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: liked I think we need to reach out to him

826
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: and maybe send him some sunblock because he was very burnt,

827
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: and as a buddy who was also very burnt this

828
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: past weekend, it's not a good feeling. So I would

829
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: like him to war, you know. And while we're on

830
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: the topic of Mayok, don't pull that uncle stuff. Where

831
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: it's like a parliament. Yeah, so he finds because the

832
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: kid did the pay he paint sung. He has to

833
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 1: then go you know Acrost the the what's the kid's

834
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: name again? Oh? Max Cross? Yeah, Crosby a practice and

835
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: be like, you know you're a rap fan. Huh do

836
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you ever hear the Parliament Funkadelic? You ever hear George Clinton?

837
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: You have to hear Boots Collins. How do you call

838
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: yourself a rap fan? You know, calm down, Uncle thinks

839
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: he's twenty three years old. Okay, he doesn't need to

840
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: know about this music from forty years ago to be

841
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: a fan of hip hop. Gruden. I think Gruden naturally

842
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: can work with like the younger generation. You know that's

843
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: not Mayox. You know I'll meet you halfway on this one.

844
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: I give extra points for anybody who are hereciates what

845
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: came before you, an actual appreciation for history, get that.

846
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: But I would never give someone like a hard time

847
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: for not knowing, Like I don't expect Mac Max Crosby

848
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: dont know who George Clinton is. I feel like Mayok

849
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: has been on a special personal message mission to not

850
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: show up on this show. Bestie Ken, and he's probably

851
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: not thrilled that that scene came out. But I think

852
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons have been a study of

853
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: and I think Gruden is probably better than he was

854
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: a year ago trying to work with millennials, trying to

855
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: work with younger people, because that's a challenge. That's not

856
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: something Mayok was doing to this degree before. And Gruden,

857
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: to me, I think he's doing a pretty good job

858
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: of it, depending on player to player. He still has

859
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: the passion for the job. You can see it, it

860
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: comes through. It's amazing. I mean, I the fact that

861
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: NFL films can just bring up that McVeigh footage from

862
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: when he was starting out like no other boy, there's

863
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: no other sport, there's no other like exact example of that,

864
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: where it's just they can call up and they happen

865
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: to have been there in two thousands. You know, they

866
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: were there in two and they have it. And the

867
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: most only moment of the entire show is that quick

868
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: moment they showed Gruden McVeigh talking and and they're just

869
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: and Gruden's just like, yeah, yo, we're in the super

870
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: Bowl last year. We're a long way from the super

871
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: Bowl or something like that. I was like that was real.

872
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: That's why he has a lot to say. I think

873
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown behind the scenes and a lot of things,

874
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: but like that was like a quick moment where you

875
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: got a real look into like, man, I wish we

876
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: were the Rams. It's here too. It's a ten year

877
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: job or a ten year contract, and he's got a

878
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: lot of work to do. Um. All right, that's what's

879
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: going on with Hard Knocks before we get to our

880
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: juicy trade scenario. As a reminder, Oh, by the way,

881
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: check out the Hard Knocks podcast listed by Peter Schreger.

882
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: It's an HBO Films joint. Schreig Bomb is hosting it.

883
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: Um our buddy. Yeah, a new episode every day after

884
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: the podcast airs, I believe every Wednesday. Yeah. As a

885
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: big podcast fan in general, I like the idea of

886
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: limited series podcasts, like I like one that you you're

887
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: in for five or six weeks, Send you're out, put

888
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: me in, and put me out. Absolutely Hard Knocks podcast. Oh.

889
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: One more note, Fantasy Extravaganza. Oh it's on get Ready

890
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: next Wednesday. And guess what might a real din a

891
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: big fish? What up? Anthonythday? Anthony? Alright? Freaky personal messages

892
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: to other people because they like put they post on

893
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: the site. That's it. I'm done. I'm off it anyway,

894
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: Fantasy Travaganza next Wednesday. I won't say anything else, but

895
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know the what do they

896
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: call the line is in the water? The real, the real? Well,

897
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: I got the real, the lines in the water and

898
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: there's a big piece of meat on the end of

899
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: the line. Chum, I just put it right on the hook.

900
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: There's a big fish. Can I get them in the boat?

901
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the reel is out. Good boat talk,

902
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: so it might knock one of us out of the boat.

903
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: Let's hope not. Let's hope not. All right, let's get

904
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: to it. Juicy trade scenarios. Trade scenarios that makes sense

905
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: for NFL teams entering week one. Um, I think it

906
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: only uh makes sense to start with jadeveon Clowney because

907
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: and maybe we have multiple jadeveon clowney trade options out there,

908
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: but I have one. You guys know it. You guys

909
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: know because as soon as this dropped on text or

910
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: on social yesterday, we were on a text chain and

911
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: I got excited about the idea of the jets going

912
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: after Clowney. Um, so I want to I want to

913
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: put together a trade offer because as we know, and

914
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: it's one of those off repeated things West, the Jets

915
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: haven't had a true pass rusher since John Abraham and

916
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: two thousand five. Well, that's true. Poor Calvin Pace, it's

917
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: been a lot Calvin base at ten saxslon Yere. He's

918
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: a nice little player, but uh, you know, he's not

919
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: a truly gifted and and I just think and everything

920
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: we talked about makes sense about why you would be

921
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: careful about giving up too much for Clowney. But I

922
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: think the Jets are in an interesting position here because

923
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: they have pieces in place to make you think they

924
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: can make a run at a playoff spot this year.

925
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: So how serious are you about that? Really? Because when

926
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: you sign Levy on Bell and your son jameson Crowder

927
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: and you go get Ryan Khalil out of retirement, uh,

928
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: and you make those type of moves, that tells me

929
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: you're trying to win ten or eleven games this year.

930
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: But guess what, you have a major problem at secondary.

931
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: We talked about it on Monday. Tremaine Johnson got hurt. Uh.

932
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Kyron Brown also suffered a hamstring injury. Both those guys

933
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: are out and definitely could miss regular season time. Updated

934
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: cornerback a depth chart. Dal Roberts, Brian Pool and Arthur Mollette.

935
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: Good player, So what are you gonna do? It's gonna

936
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: be hard to upgrade the cornerback. You need your defensive

937
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: line to get after the quarterback and bail out your

938
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: secondary essentially, so get Clowney plug that hole. Since Sean Abraham,

939
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: how are you gonna do it? Let's keep it simple, guys.

940
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: This isn't easy because I really do like this player,

941
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: but he's also he's in a contract here straight up,

942
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: jadeveon Clowney for Leonard Williams going back to Houston. The

943
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Jets seemed to be on the fence about whether Williams

944
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: is a fit long term. But he's obviously a very

945
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: talented young player. Uh that gets Houston's defensive line gets

946
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: a boost and get Clowney out of the building if

947
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: they don't believe in him. The money is very close.

948
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: Williams makes fourteen point two million in the final year

949
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: of his rookie deal. Clowney has do sixteen million this year.

950
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: I think it helps both teams. It clears up a

951
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: little bit of a log jam for the Jets after

952
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: they're moving the with their first pick in this draft,

953
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: and it gives you Clowney, a fearsome guy that can

954
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: rush the passer and stop the run. And yes, it

955
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: takes discipline Greg to figure out how to play this

956
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: out if Clowney is successful this season, if this trade

957
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: went down. But I actually think they have a GM

958
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: and Joe Ugless that just might be able to handle

959
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: the situation and Joe Douglas looking to make his first

960
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: big splash because I don't count Ryan Khalil. Is that

961
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: about that Clowney for Big Cat. I'm just not interested

962
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: if I'm the Jets of giving up one of my

963
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: better players, just like why i'd give up I'd rather

964
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: give up a second round pick than give up Lennard Williams.

965
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: You have Leonard Ruins for this season. You want to

966
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: see what he looks like in Greg Williams's offense. You

967
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: could use the franchise tag on him next year. I

968
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: think there's an argument to be made that, especially if

969
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: you do use the compensatory pick formula. That's like everyone

970
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: goes crazy about second round picks this time of year.

971
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes second round picks are like Duke Dawson,

972
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots cornerback who's not even gonna make the team

973
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: in the second season. Like, I know Jenevan Clowney is good.

974
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: I know Leonard Williams is good. I don't want to

975
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: give up one of them when you don't have many

976
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: good players. I don't want to give that makes them

977
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: a better team. I think it does make them a

978
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: better team. But you're saying for positional versatility that Clowne

979
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: can play outside line, will is more of an inside guy. Yeah. Sure,

980
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: I think Clowney is a little better at what he does,

981
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: and he's definitely had a position they could use more.

982
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: But I think Leonard Williams is one of the whatever

983
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: six best players on the Jets. So I don't want

984
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: to give them. Yeah, I just I think you have

985
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: to go into they would be I think Texans would

986
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: do that. You have to go into this with a

987
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: telling everyone it is very possible that no matter how

988
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: good we think our front office is and how good

989
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: our GM is, there is an agent and there is

990
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: a player who wants to maximize their earnings after this,

991
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: and it's possible the Jets and Clowney have one season together,

992
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: so if I'm gonna do that, and I hear where

993
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: you're going with it, like you've got to make some

994
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: cuts because of your cap situation too, But I think

995
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: it's a go for broke move on defense, and I

996
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't give up Leonard Williams. I give up almost anything else.

997
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't care about the pick as much. I'm with

998
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: Greg on that it would be tasty though, that the

999
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: need is there and the fit is there. But I

1000
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you can make it work, because just

1001
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: thinking about I would I would give up somebody else

1002
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: if I could, because having Clowney Quinnin Williams and Leonard

1003
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: Williams on the line, now that's good. Now, that really

1004
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: significantly helps the team. Yeah, all right, Connie, you go next, Okay, geez,

1005
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: all right. You didn't expect it to go to second, No,

1006
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: I didn't. Okay, I'm trying to help your stress level.

1007
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: Just get out of the way instead of it building

1008
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: up to and then you do you know, like, no

1009
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: matter what the assignment is, I stress out about it.

1010
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: So I talked to myself in and out of multiple

1011
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: trades with multiple teams. But then I was thinking about

1012
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and jadeveon Clowney, and I was thinking that

1013
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: their major weakness right now is pass rush. So they

1014
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: have to fill that spot left by Frank Clark. They

1015
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: have Ziggyanza there, but you don't know exactly what you're

1016
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: going to get from Zigianza. Can he give you a

1017
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: throwback performance? Is he going to be all the way healthy? Okay? Great? Um,

1018
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: they have the cap space, they have about twenty million

1019
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: in cap and then this year next or they're really

1020
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: good too, so here and also you have Drawn reed

1021
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: Um whose face suspension. I just what this is what

1022
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking if you go second round pick because it

1023
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: is basically a one year deal for Clowney, especially if

1024
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: he gets hurt, you don't know, you can't really control

1025
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: a whole lot, So second round pick and then what

1026
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: if you know, you throwing maybe some like unlimited trips

1027
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: to the top of the space needle or something like that.

1028
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: Remember realistic that will clinch. They bring back Duane Brown

1029
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown if they want, because okay, so if you

1030
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: can't get Trent Williams, who West, as you mentioned earlier,

1031
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: is a thirty something who has dealt with some injuries,

1032
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: why don't you get somebody back on your team that

1033
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: you shipped off to the Seattle Seahawks in the first place. God,

1034
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: they'd be desperate to get rid of clown I feel like,

1035
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: all right, what about their their new pick Ethan Post.

1036
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guard, but you can throw in

1037
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: him and maybe one of the younger It's fun. It's

1038
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: a fun one. I just don't know why the Seahawks

1039
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: would have any interest in giving up, you know, left

1040
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: tackle that they just give a contract that well the

1041
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: Texans need. I don't think that the Texans are going

1042
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: to be interested in just drafting. They need players their

1043
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: window right now. They're set up to win right now.

1044
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: So if you're just gonna get rid of Jadeveon Clowney,

1045
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: you need you need somebody to help protect Deshaun Watson

1046
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: on that line. Especially last year after seeing sixty two

1047
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: sacks come on and Ryan Khalil didn't look great in

1048
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: his first preseason game. You don't know what you're gonna

1049
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: get from him. That's the most important position on the line.

1050
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: I think Seahawks makes a lot of sense to they

1051
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: have an extra pick because of the Frank Clark trade. Second,

1052
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: just send a pick there's no way they would they

1053
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: would rather have Dwyane Brown than Jadevan Clowney, especially because

1054
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: you got for a couple of years and you know

1055
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: you gotta protect Wresse Wilson. That's been a is the

1056
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: ust year in seventeen years that we haven't been talking

1057
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: about the Sehaks offensive line because now it's good. So

1058
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: but but I could see them. They've been very aggressive

1059
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: just sending picks. Remember they sent a pick for Percy

1060
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: Harvin when he didn't have much let then they ended

1061
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: up resigning him and everything they've they've made a lot

1062
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: of aggressive moves. They're about as likely, I think as

1063
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: any team in the league to do something where they're

1064
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: just like, fine, we'll give you a second and we'll

1065
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: hope that we can convince Clowney to sign here and

1066
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: maybe we'll just get a ton of money. I could

1067
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: picture Clowney thriving. Yes, I could see that. You could

1068
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: see that that that Davian Clowney breakout season that we've

1069
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: been waiting for, where he has you know, seventeen and

1070
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: a half sacks and is in the running for Defensive

1071
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. I could totally see that happened.

1072
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: Jayane Brown has has burned that bridge, and Clowney is

1073
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: the one that has to agree to all this. You know,

1074
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: per some of these parameters, Seattle makes a lot more

1075
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: sense than some of these other teams. All right, Wes, Well,

1076
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: we're sticking with Clowney. I want to send him home.

1077
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: He's from the Southeast, and I want to send it

1078
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: to a place where they could have reason full belief

1079
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: that they might have an edge in signing him because

1080
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: he'd be home the Atlanta Falcons and they have salary

1081
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: cap issues. So we gotta make this work. Vick Beasley,

1082
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: who Greg said, you know a week or two ago,

1083
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: Falcon's biggest problem on defense is these guys they've drafted

1084
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: to be difference making pass rushers haven't gotten it done well.

1085
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: The Texans are gonna need a pass rusher. We're sending

1086
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley, in his third team million back to Houston

1087
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: for the last year of his contract with a third

1088
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: round pick, and we're getting Clowney and return Vick Beasley

1089
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: and a third for Jadeveon Clowney. And now you've got

1090
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: the Falcons who think they're a Super Bowl contender with

1091
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney, who if I'm a Super Bowl contender. The

1092
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: thing I love most about Clowney, in addition to his versatility,

1093
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: he shows up in big games. He's terrorized the Patriots,

1094
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: he dominated the Raiders in the playoffs. He's had one

1095
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: of his best games ever against the Eagles. His PFF

1096
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: numbers are wild. If you look at him every year,

1097
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,479
Speaker 1: he's dominated in November December in the playoffs, like he's

1098
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: been a fairly average play are in the first half

1099
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: of the last three seasons, almost like he's getting up

1100
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: to speed and then he just kills people. But does

1101
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: that's I mean, if you're gonna pick the time of

1102
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: year to do it, that's it. The Falcons would definitely

1103
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: be the winners in that trade. That's a lost. I

1104
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: wonder what Bill O'Brien like. But again, it's one year though,

1105
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: that's right. That's something that I find like a little

1106
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: bit out there for most. The way that most proNT

1107
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: officers would think is it is a Gopher broke, one

1108
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: year move with zero guaranteed. I wonder if the third

1109
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: round pick alone is enough to get Jadevan Clowney. The

1110
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: Texans should be happy to get a third round pick

1111
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: with the way they've oh, I think they know. I

1112
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: don't think they would trade him for a third, But

1113
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: you're getting a third, are going to get a whole

1114
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff. That's why I'm saying that sitting

1115
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: on him is probably what the trade is going to

1116
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: go down in two hours. And all of this I

1117
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: didn't think of that quick mark your turn. All right,

1118
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: all right, thank you. Here is what could turn me

1119
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: into a fan of a team that has sort of

1120
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: driven me nuts historically over the past couple of years,

1121
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: and that is the green Bay Packers. And the green

1122
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: Bay Packers have a new coach. They have a new

1123
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: running scheme that does not fit Jamal Williams. It does

1124
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: fit Aaron Jones. But Aaron Jones has not been the

1125
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: most consistent, reliable running back on the face of the earth.

1126
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: And it wouldn't be the worst thing on the planet

1127
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: to have to or to have someone even better than

1128
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones brought into green Bay to flip the switch

1129
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: on an offense that has not had a dominant running

1130
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: game really at all under Aaron Rodgers. And it's so

1131
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: I send Melvin Gordon to the Packers for a second

1132
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: round pick, and you know what, charges you can have

1133
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: Equanimius st. Brown in return. Yes, I think a second

1134
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: round pick, you're getting it. You could get them for

1135
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: second round pick. Charges are Chargers are done with this guy.

1136
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: Chargers are done with him. They are already they already

1137
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: have had Philip Rivers saying we're good with who we have,

1138
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: and we got to be settled with who we have.

1139
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: They do have good running backs. It's loss to not

1140
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: have Melvin Gordon based but you in situation where it's

1141
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You're gonna He doesn't even

1142
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: finished saying his first name before to LESCo, just because oh, Quinny,

1143
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: this deal is done. He's a cherry on top a

1144
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: second round pick. I think that's it done. You're not

1145
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: are you? Are you trading a first round pick for

1146
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: for Gordon? I think a second is too rich? Well

1147
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: that's that. If anything, I'm throwing the charges of bone.

1148
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: But third rounder that you just traded Duke Johnson for

1149
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: a third rounder. It's jackie because you gotta pay him.

1150
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: You assume you have to pay him top five running

1151
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: back money the first place. And I went through that too,

1152
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: thinking about, uh, what Melvin Gordon could get? Who who

1153
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: would want him? And You're right. I don't think a

1154
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: ton of teams are going to give up a ton

1155
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: because you gotta give up the contract. But I did

1156
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: think of one team that would be desperate enough potentially,

1157
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: and it's a team you call up and uh, Tom

1158
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: talasco the Charges. One day, he calls up Jay Gruden,

1159
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: starts talking to him. Uh, you know about Melvin Gordon.

1160
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: A couple of hours later, talk to Bruce Allen. Don't

1161
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: even tell Jay Gruden that you talked. Uh, don't don't

1162
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: even tell Bruce Allen that you talked to Jay Gruden.

1163
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: Then maybe called dance night, you know, call the ownership,

1164
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: talk about just have them start playing against each other,

1165
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: the whole Redskins power dynamic. Those are the types of desperate.

1166
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: Are you just simply just trying to mean? I think

1167
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: it's somehow play all the Redskins front office maneuvering against

1168
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: each other. This is where crazy trades on the iron

1169
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: throne basically. And uh, and you get Trent Williams back,

1170
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: because Trent Williams does not want to play for the Redskins.

1171
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen. This is the one guy

1172
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: I believe that he is making a stand and he's

1173
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: just not playing for this organization ever again. And I

1174
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: think Gruden and the people there should be realizing they're

1175
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: all in the hot seat. They're all needing to win

1176
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: this year. Who's gonna help you more this year? You're

1177
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: not gonna have Williams, Melvin Gordon or Trent Williams. And

1178
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: I know they have some running backs there, but you

1179
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: can't trust Darius Guys who's still not practice fully. I

1180
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: don't care about a Peterson put Lvin Gordon in there.

1181
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't give him some money. Hold On, hold On

1182
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: seems like something The red are just glossing over the

1183
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: fact that they have Adrian Peterson and Darius guys and

1184
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: they don't need Melvin Gordon. I don't they don't they

1185
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: do they? Yeah, I don't care about it. What does

1186
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: that mean? He's a backup that you could cut if

1187
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: you want. He's coming off a thousand yard season. I

1188
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: don't care. The Redskins need players that they can build around.

1189
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: And they seem like a team that actually, even though

1190
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm not super into giving up a lot for Melvin

1191
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: Gordon paying a lot of money, they just seem like

1192
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: a team that would because Melvin Gordon's young and he's

1193
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: good and he can handle all three downs. You don't

1194
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: have anyone like that, but you're gonna pay him like

1195
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: a let's say, top three running back when you invested

1196
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: a second round picking guys, I mean Adrian Peterson is

1197
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: making has been is not someone they got to see

1198
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: what they have. Yeah, guys, is a late amid second

1199
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: who hasn't practiced fully as a pro yet. You've said

1200
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: on this podcast he's a three down back guy. I

1201
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: haven't healthy. He still hasn't been able to play like

1202
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: a full contact practice and stuff. So I'm counting out.

1203
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: So in two weeks he can practice again and then

1204
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: you But that's not something you don't really need help with.

1205
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: I disagree. I mean that is that love too? I mean,

1206
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 1: why are we think you get the owner on the phone,

1207
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: like Greg saying he's thinking, what can I Who can

1208
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: I put on the tickets? Who can I put on

1209
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: the programs? Doesn't seem like something the Redskins to do.

1210
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah it does. It doesn't have to be a good

1211
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: trade for them to do. Um, you want to do

1212
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: a quick speed round, real quick around. One more If

1213
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: anybody's got one, that's all I got I gotta think.

1214
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: I think Clowny to the Titans would make some sense

1215
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: to they desperately need a pass. What they trade him

1216
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: in their own division? It's a fair question. Um, I

1217
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: got a quick one. Um, Ryan Fitzpatrick on the move again.

1218
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: We just talked about Philly and Jacksonville, two teams that

1219
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: really need help a backup quarter. But will the compensation be?

1220
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: When Fit signed with the Dolphins, the depth chard was

1221
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: Jake Ruddock and Luke Falk all right, Uh, but then

1222
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: they made that nice Josh Rosen trade. What do you

1223
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: need the veteran gun slinger around for fifth? Doesn't make

1224
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: any sense? He all the really messed things up with

1225
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: the Fits magic. Uh, this is a team that should

1226
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: be taking a long look at an intriguing prospect like Rosen.

1227
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: So take Fits and send it to one of these

1228
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: contenders that really need some, um a security blanket behind

1229
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: their starters. I think it makes sense. Oh, you want

1230
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: a compensation sixth round pick? Und Maybe I got one

1231
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: just for gets and jiggles, Okay, just because I want

1232
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: to see. So. When Clowney got drafted number one, the

1233
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: debate was whether you should take Khalil Mack or Jadeveon Clowney.

1234
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: Let's reunite both of them on the Bears. Send Leonard

1235
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: Floyd in a third round pick to the Texans, and

1236
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: now we're cooking with fire. I like it. I have

1237
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: one to offer. You probably will not follow your rules,

1238
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: but it's I when I came up with it. It

1239
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: fills two teams needs and desires to the inth degree.

1240
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: And that's why I want you to listening before shoot

1241
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: it off and we close the show. What is it

1242
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: that the Texans miss right now? They miss front off,

1243
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: leadership and guidance. They are a ship afloat, and we'll

1244
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: see how that's working. What is it they wanted and

1245
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: they couldn't get. What is it that the team they

1246
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: tried to get it from could very much use? The

1247
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: Patriots could use Jadeveon Clowney. The Patriots are a super

1248
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: Bowl window one year, super Bowl window team that could

1249
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: say after this, if we blow the whole thing up,

1250
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: and the Texans they are they could get. The Texans

1251
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: have no way to hang on the Clowney. That's the

1252
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: way I see it. After this year, it's gotten acrimonious,

1253
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: he's out. The Patriots have no way to hang on

1254
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: to Nikissario. He's there for one year, he's essentially been

1255
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: held hostage, and he's out. He's gonna go to Houston.

1256
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Clownie is gonna go somewhere else. The Patriots might as

1257
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: well say, at least we get something in theory in return.

1258
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: We give you Nikissario, you give us Jadevian Clowney were good.

1259
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna laugh at it, but it makes sense.

1260
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: It is two teams that get what they absolutely need

1261
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: to breathe, especially for the Texans. You have no idea

1262
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Cassario after this season. We don't know why.

1263
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: Why do we think that Nso is this genius? We

1264
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: don't have to the whole organism, The whole organization much

1265
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: better Issio than Bill O'Brien. We have no idea. You could.

1266
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: You could look at everything in the world that way.

1267
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: But that's but the Texans, we already know, have deep

1268
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: interest in Nikossario and got into the into a tampering

1269
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 1: snaff food because of it, and they're gonna go after

1270
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: him again. There's like maybe throwing like Dietrich Wise and

1271
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: Cassario for clowning. I like that. I like that. Still

1272
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: there they just wave back. I like that. I like that.

1273
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: That's good. I like that. Okay, I agree, I like it.

1274
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: Dan does not. I just think that Cassio stuff is

1275
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: a little bit overblown. Well, I mean, we're not you're

1276
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: not operating. This room is also a little bit on

1277
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: fire about the Bill O'Brien knows nothing. The train has

1278
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: left the station and I don't know where. I don't know.

1279
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: Brian the one that wants Cassario more than anyone. He's

1280
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: they got into the Clowney thing, Kno, because of Bill O'Brien.

1281
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: I think that's actually not how this assumption that the

1282
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: Texans are a house on fire. They are a housecaus

1283
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: they fired Brian gained and didn't come on. Well, how

1284
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: about the way they handled to Devan Clowney. They're getting

1285
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: pennies on the dollar for him now because they didn't

1286
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: do things in a timely man. That because the only

1287
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: way to get him, because well at least three insiders

1288
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: have said he's on the trade block, Mike Garifolo, Mike

1289
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: Lombardi and Um O'Brien or not John McClaine. But if

1290
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: you if you trade him or shop him before July,

1291
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: you can get real value back for him. But once

1292
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: that once he can't sign any more. What are you?

1293
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: What are you trying to The only other thing I'll

1294
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: say is that that the situation got complicated by an

1295
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: obvious riff between the coach and GM. The GM got fired.

1296
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: That probably did not I know, there was still a

1297
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: window where they could have gotten a deal done, but

1298
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: that was a bit of the organization was in a

1299
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: transition there, and then the Patriots shot all over their

1300
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: ability to kind of move on, uh in a I

1301
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: guess what you could say functional manner. I just I'm

1302
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,479
Speaker 1: not ready to say that Texans are completely on fire

1303
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: right now because of the way. Look, that's the second

1304
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: gim that Bill O'Brien's had major issues with. Again, I

1305
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: think Bill O'Brien is a good coach, and maybe he'll

1306
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: be fine running the show upstairs for the season two,

1307
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: but he already has been inside the Patriots organization for

1308
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: years and knows what Bill Belichick and other people much

1309
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: smarter than running most teams think of Nikis Sarrio. So

1310
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: it's like, I think there's a lot of friends, it's

1311
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: a lot of historical trying to hire him, give him

1312
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: a nice contract and giving him a nice, big contract

1313
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: and also giving up one of your best players. It

1314
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: just seems like a lot of compensation if you're we're

1315
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: talking seriously about a player who probably won't play for

1316
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: the Texans this year at all at this point, and

1317
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: certainly won't play after this year. Playing this year, we're

1318
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: not hearing. If you're hearing that they're looking to trade him,

1319
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: something that is not going wean will. They have to

1320
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 1: find a partner for him to play, and he's not

1321
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: planning for more than one year. So like the idea

1322
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 1: that they knew that months ago. If he if he

1323
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: moves Clowney for a fifth round pick or something, I

1324
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 1: will not be defending O'Brien. I just I guess I

1325
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: just want to see how this all plays out. I

1326
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: would I would just say that you'd be happy with

1327
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: for him. I think you need to get at least

1328
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: the third rounder back at least, but it's probably a

1329
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: second for a player of Clowny's ability. And I know

1330
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: they boxed themselves in, but you know, a second rounder,

1331
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: I think you'd be you could live with. This is

1332
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: a roster that can crumble in a hurry. There is

1333
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: not much to look forward to. Beyond two thousand nine,

1334
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: and I think you're talking about You said, what else

1335
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: is Bill O'Brien dunn? Well, they have guards coming around

1336
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: of their ears and nobody who can play tackle. They

1337
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: just keep drafting guards tweener tackles over and over again

1338
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: and and moving them inside the guard. This roster is

1339
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: in bad shape going forward. Um, all right, there'll be

1340
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: a fun team to track this year, won't they. Ladies

1341
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: and gentlemen be and gentlemen, well, ladies is there too? Hey,

1342
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on Ricky? I don't know. You guys

1343
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: are screaming a lot. Got me kind of worked up

1344
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: back here. Okay, that's not a good sign. All right, Um,

1345
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: we'll be back on Friday now again, I am on

1346
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: call for jury duty, and so far in Los Angeles,

1347
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 1: the City of Los Angeles has said, zeuser not needed.

1348
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: You don't need to handle any crime situations right now.

1349
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: We don't need. I can't believe they haven't pulled into there,

1350
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: into the actual downtown place. I've never heard of anything

1351
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: like downtown, your downtowntown downtown big house where O J

1352
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: O J went down. So three days in I have

1353
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: to call in two more times, and I might I

1354
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: might just get away with this, but I also might

1355
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: get called called in for Friday. Um, but just know

1356
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 1: that we have a special guest coming on Friday. And

1357
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: also if I'm here, I should say there will be

1358
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: the hot butt power rankings will be dropped, ranking all

1359
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: the head coaches from the safest. Then you can imagine

1360
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 1: who was at the top of that list. H to

1361
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: the one that you hear right now. I think if

1362
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: you listen to the voice, you can even tell maybe

1363
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 1: where did you find this drop or did you record

1364
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: this job? This is real, This is scary, all right.

1365
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: So that's what's coming up on Friday. Maybe. All right,

1366
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: let's get at hey, Colleen, he did it, Yeah, no

1367
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: problem anytime. Man, you did a great job. But you

1368
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: said it all and it's great to have you back.

1369
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm finally doing this thing. I'm gonna kill Ricky, all right.

1370
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: Dan Hads is signing off our quiet storm, the Mailman,

1371
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: the tiny Box, the old Moss, and rick until Friday.