1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: What is up? Fire Up, It's me Jason McIntyre, straight 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: paw yere for Thursday, March to nineteenth. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: you know what time it is NCAA tournament time. Very excited. 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: I put out my final four earlier we did the Calcutta. 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: I don't know how much I should talk about it, 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: but I'm yeeked beyond belief. I'll just say it. We 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: got Michigan and Duke. My god, anything happens to Michigan 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: or Duke short of the final four and your boy 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: is gonna just be devastated. Last year's Duke was I mean, 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: I still can't believe they lost that game to Houston. 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Unbelievable meltdown. And the beauty is at Michigan and Duke 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: are on opposite sides of the bracket. Right after that, 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: we didn't get any middle tier teams, which in hindsight, 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: could have been a with you know, we got some 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: Miami Ohio which actually looked pretty damn good. I don't 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: know how close do you guys watch that against SMU? 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean, are they going to hit a million threes 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: against Tennessee? I don't know they're hot. Usually an eleven 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: seed does feel off some wins after that intro game. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm a big Santa Clara fan, big Iowa Hawkeyes fan. 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: Are they going to be live against Florida if they 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: beat Clemson, we'll see, we'll see. Uh you toss State 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: Aggie's you know, I already bet them if you're on 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: my site. Akron, I do think Akron's going to give 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Texas Tech a game, and then Northern Iowa. So got 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: a good collection of teams. Obviously, we'll talk about it more. 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: The sweats in the Calcutta are very very real. Let 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: me see what this tournament schedule is in terms of 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: order of games. So the first game today is going 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: to be TCU Ohio State, followed by Troy Nebraska. I 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: don't know why people see something Troy. I like Nebraska 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: for sure. There South Florida I wrote about. I think 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: they're gonna be definitely live. Interestingly, SMU said, oh, yeah, 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna have our star expected back. Well he didn't return. 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: They clearly lied and the committee got them in anyway, 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: and they they lost their game. I don't know how 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: much like I don't know what's going on with UCLA. 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with Markel Brown. My 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: guess is he's not gonna play. It's it's a weird tournament, 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: a lot of injuries, guys up in the air. Wisconsin's 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: in the morning, Duke weirdly at eleven fifty am. You 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: know when Duke wins, they will. I can almost guarantee 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: you that on Saturday, the early prime game will be Duke, 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: the standalone CBS game. I think in LA it's at 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: like ten or eleven am. But for sure every day 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: they want Duke in the standalone games. And then at 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, I think the game of Tomorrow Night probably 49 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: is Texas BYU get Aj Demontson primetime. Michigan obviously so 50 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: very fired up to the tournament. I've done a million brackets. 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what else to say. Guys, 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: the tournament's here now. Fortunately, the NBA was popping off 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. You had the Lakers going to Houston. Remember 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: they had they beat Houston Monday with a fourth quarter. 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: Here's the fourth quarter score on Wednesday, also in Houston, 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: Lakers thirty five Rockets twenty four Lakers. Unbelievable fourth quarter 57 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: finishing kick. Give all the credit to Luka doncic Chu 58 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: is certainly in the MVP mix. I know everybody thinks 59 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: it's a FATA company that Shay is gonna win it, Folks, 60 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: Luca forty piece, tenn assists, nine boards, seven to three pointers, 61 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: took over late with an insane move on shng Goon 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: splitting the double behind his back Ali to Rui Hachimra, 63 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: and then a couple possessions later to ice the game. 64 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: He gets Jabbari Smith on skates lights him up from three. 65 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: The crowd actually was going wild. They going bonkers in Houston. 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Listen when Lebron goes thirteen for fourteen and Luca drops 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: a forty piece one rebounds. I have a triple double. 68 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Lebron and Luca combined for seventy. Austin Reeves had a 69 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: nightmare two games offensively in Houston and it didn't matter. 70 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: That's how scary this team is. And I know everybody 71 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: wants to doubt them. And I know Charles Barkley said 72 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: they're not real contenders. They've won ten of eleven, they've 73 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: won seven straight. At what point do you guys want 74 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 2: to take them seriously? I totally forgot. They started fifteen 75 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: and four, Lebron was injured, then they had the weirdness 76 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: in the middle of the season. They're all healthy now. 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: The Lakers are one and a half up on Minnesota, 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: two and a half up on Houston and Denver and 79 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns. If they can ever get healthy, have 80 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: a chance to sneak in in. Rob, g I'm gonna 81 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: be keep it real with you, keep it a hundred 82 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: as a kids say. This team's a legit threat. Now. 83 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: I just wish they would weren't playing the Spurs in 84 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: the second round because I don't think they have a 85 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: chance against the Spurs, and I know everybody's a what 86 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: if the Spurs want they have Webbin Yama. Okay, we're 87 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: only seeing Rob. We're only seeing the tip of the 88 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: iceberg with Wemby because he's only playing like twenty thirty 89 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: minutes a game. Playoffs, He's gonna be playing like thirty eight. Okay, 90 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: so that Spurs team is terrifying. Honestly, this is probably 91 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: too hot of a take. You know, maybe I'll keep 92 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: I'll use it on the herd. Rob'll test drive it here. 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: I would rather play, okay, see than the Spurs in 94 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: the second round. If I'm the Lakers too out of 95 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: a take. 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: Ooh, getting me started early on a Thursday, Morton, that's 97 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: pretty hot of a take. That's a very hot take. 98 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: I mean saying that you'd rather take on the defending champions, who, 99 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: by some metrics are calling the greatest two year running 100 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: NBA history. Another faith just you know, analytics guys, they 101 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: like the Warriors. They love Okay, See, analytically is like 102 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: the greatest things in slice bread. You know, we talked 103 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: about this since last year. So okay, so walk me 104 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: through this. Why would you rather face Okac than the 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: Spur The Spurs have not want a play They have 106 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: two guys on their roster who have even won a 107 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: playoff series. 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: All facts, I think Wenby's the most dominant player, right, 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: He's gonna shut everything down around the rim, all those 110 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: Luca lobs good luck. And I believe the best individual 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: defender is on the Spurs in Steph Castle. I do 112 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: not want Luca trying to go at Castle. And ultimately 113 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: I think the Spurs are are just a brutal matchup 114 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: for the Lakers. Like again, maybe I'm it's checkered because 115 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: I was at the Spurs game when Wemby went for 116 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: like twenty eight in the first quarter. Now I know 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: Luca sat out and I don't think Reeves or Lebron played. 118 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: It was a skeleton crew. But I was also at 119 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: the first meeting the Lakers had with him. Wemby did play. 120 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: A couple other guys missed the game and the Lakers won, 121 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: but then it didn't if memory serves, it didn't go 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: well any other meeting. I don't know if they were 123 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: all at full strength. I just don't like the matchup 124 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: for me, and I go back to it Luca on 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: the MAVs against SGA and the Thunder year before the 126 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: Thunder won the title, and they had no answer for Luca, 127 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: and I don't know that they will now again. This 128 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: is a different looking Laker team now than it looked 129 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: earlier in the season when they played Okay. See, they 130 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: do match up twice down the stretch. I'm curious if 131 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: the Lakers show them something, and they probably will have 132 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: to play their guys so they can ensure a playoff spot, 133 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: but I'm very curious if they maybe just say, you 134 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: know what, We're not going to show you anything. We 135 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: don't want to play our guys. 136 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: I mean that's possible a little bit of gamesmanship, but perhaps, 137 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: But again, explain to me why you would much rather 138 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: face Wemby and the Spurs, or scuse me, rather face 139 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: SGA in the Thunder, the reigning defending champions, the best 140 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: team in basketball all season long. Like, I know, the 141 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: Spurs have been hot. I think that what nineteen and 142 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: two in the last twenty one Wemby is awesome? 143 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: But what about Well, the Spurs also smoked the Thunder 144 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: in their head to head. I think it was three 145 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: to one or four to one. 146 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: Sure, But again, like I said, what is it that 147 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: makes you think that OKAC would be a demonstrably easier matchup? 148 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 2: I didn't say easier. I just said this spr Okay 149 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: splitting hairs Spurs a tougher match up. Here's the thing. 150 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: And again, I know people are gonn disabrete. I don't 151 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: really care. I think in the thunder Lakers, the best 152 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: player on the court is Luka Doncic. I think he 153 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: makes everyone else better. Yes, SGA is probably gonna win 154 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: the MVP. He's an unbelievable scorer. I believe Luka Doncic 155 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: is a better overall player and unfortunately, nobody's gonna get 156 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: me off that. That doesn't mean SGA isn't gonna win 157 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: the MVP. He's had a great season, Okay, undeniable, Lucas 158 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: had ups and downs, and I know the whole defense 159 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: up and Chad Holmgren does not scare me. Wembin Yama 160 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: scares me, and I do believe, like who, let's just again, 161 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: I know Caruso is a really good defender, but like 162 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: other than SGA, like we haven't seen anything from j 163 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: Dubb this year. And I know that the Tryhard Thunder 164 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: have all those guys who run and JH. Now they 165 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: got Jared McCay and Caruso and Wallace and Ajiah Mitchell. 166 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: But didn't they not gonna be able to play all 167 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: those guys? Rob What are they gonna run five and 168 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: five and five? I don't think so. I do believe 169 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: you know the light What is it you play eight 170 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: but you trust seven or something like that. I'm not 171 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: not scared of the Thunder. I think I've seen Luca 172 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: take them down before. I haven't seen anyone take down 173 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: Wemby because they well because they haven't been the playoffs, 174 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: but even in the regular season, every time I watch them, 175 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: they're dominant. 176 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 177 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Not enough of a sell, I. 178 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: Mean, I mean, I don't know if I believe you, 179 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: but that is a very good point. The pat Riley quote, 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: the famous quote you use eight, rotate seven, play six, 181 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: trust five ah and And you know what's funny is 182 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: is with that in mind to your point. Okay, see, 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: especially more so than anything in us in the league, 184 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: what makes them such a dangerous team on a night 185 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: to night basis is even with the injuries to JDub, Carusoe, Harden, 186 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: schne like all these guys have missed time, is they 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: have one through like they have like thirteen fourteen guys 188 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 3: that could be legitimate rotation players on a number of 189 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: playoff teams, including the Laker like that, they they have 190 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: just guys up in another the Wazoo. The problem that 191 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: you run into when you get to the playoffs is 192 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm not taking sg Sga out Like he's playing forty 193 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: to forty two minutes for me. If Jadub's healthy, he's 194 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: playing thirty eight to forty minutes. If Chet is healthy, 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: he's playing thirty six to thirty. So how am I 196 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: gonna play twelve thirteen fourteen guys. I'm not. Yeah, and 197 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: so that's an issue that you're gonna run into. Now. 198 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: The counterpoint to that would be, we saw that the 199 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers, playing that exact same style, playing ten eleven, 200 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: twelve guys every night in the playoffs got them the 201 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: Game seven against the Juggernaut Thunder, and for both of 202 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: our money, would have won Game seven if Tyres Haliberg 203 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: is a poping Achilles. Yeah, so long term history suggests, yeah, 204 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 3: having all the depths great for October, November, all the 205 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: way through March. We get to April, May and June. 206 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: Just give me the team with the best five six 207 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: guys and we'll roll like that. We'll just find out, 208 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: I guess relatively quickly here if that's the host water 209 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: in six. 210 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 211 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 212 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 213 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: listen live. 214 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: I mean listen. It's probably a hot take and people 215 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: are gonna get angry. That's fine. I again, I see 216 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: the Thunder. You and I have discussed it a million times. 217 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: That Nugget series super close, that Pacer series, super close. 218 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: I don't care about the sixty eight wins. That's wonderful. 219 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: You know I heard they were gonna win seventy four 220 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: this year. How'd that work out? You know, like, let's 221 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: just settle down overall. I'm I'm fascinated by the NBA 222 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: now because the Lakers have gotten so good so quickly. 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: JJ Reddick continues to push all the right buttons. Just 224 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: got to stay healthy for the playoffs. Now, there is 225 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: two other NBA stories we're gonna touch on real quick. Okay. 226 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: Number one, the Bucks have made it abundantly clear to 227 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Giannis they want to shut him down, right, And you 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: know how they did this is they're just exasperated. They're 229 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: at their wits end, so they say, hey, let's let's 230 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: to Shamps. Now it's either the Bucks or the Yannas 231 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: leakiness to Shamps, but they have a disagreement about their future. 232 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: The Bucks want Giannis to shut it down after his 233 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: latest injury and they're not gonna make the playoffs. Yannis 234 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: has refused the request and wants to play again. This 235 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: kind of has shades of Max Crosby Rob G's Raiders. 236 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: Remember they were like, hey, dude, your Miniscus say, let's 237 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: shut it down, blah blah blah, and then he put 238 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: out the video of him playing basketball. Then he's like, fine, 239 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: I'll shut it down. He got his wish, he got traded. 240 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: I'm of the belief Rob Jannis is terrified of looking 241 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: like the bad guy, so he's gonna try to flip 242 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: it and make Milwaukee out to be the bad guy. Hey, 243 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: I want to play. They want me to lose so 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: they can keep their draft pick. I don't believe in that. 245 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm a competitor. I want to play. And Yannis seems 246 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: to be driving this home through the media, and so 247 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: the Bucks are like, wait a sec. He just got 248 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: hurt again. You you want to get traded. You don't 249 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: want to commit to us, Well, well then we have 250 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: to trade you, and we can't trade you if you're hurt. 251 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: This is getting ugly, and it's like Yannas is just 252 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: so terrified of looking like the bad guy. This is 253 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: kind of like the Dame Lillard thing. Remember he was 254 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: like hated, but guess what, they love him in Portland again. 255 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: They love him. 256 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: They once they love you, they don't hate you after that. 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: You spent many years in Milwaukee it's gonna be fine. 258 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: So again, Sham's followed up. There have been multiple meetings 259 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: with Yannis since his hyper extended knee, and the disagreement 260 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: between the sides is unresolved. So they're manufacturing a story 261 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: and I think Giannis is driving a lot of this, 262 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: and I think the Bucks are hoping to win in 263 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: the media. Rob I don't see an end in sight. 264 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: It just I feel like they had a great marriage 265 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: and Yannis is afraid of looking like the bad guy 266 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: and asking for the divorce when he wouldn't be the 267 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: bad guy if he just asked for the divorce. Now 268 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: he's like manufacturing this controversy that I believe is goofy. 269 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with you. And this is something 270 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: that we've been talking about like a year now than that, 271 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: because you know, the Bucks haven't really been in the 272 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: title contention for some time, and you and I have 273 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: been pretty straight up about it, like, look, it's very 274 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: clear that Yannis does not have the horses in Milwaukee 275 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: take attend for a championship. Like even if in this situation, 276 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: let's say they do tank and they alien him there 277 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: for a second, but they end up with the lottery 278 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: pick that lottery pick is not going to be ready 279 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: next season to help him get to the top of 280 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: the Western Eastern Conference. And let's say you find a way. Hey, 281 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: we get the eighth overall pick, and we're gonna, I 282 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: don't know, let's say a cup falls or somebody great falls, 283 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: or Ki from Arizona falls, and we're gonna trade him 284 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: for an established player. Okay, so you made it. Tell 285 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: me that Yannis plus Miles Turner plus I don't know, 286 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: Franz Wagner like, is that team making any No, it's not. 287 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: And for all parties involved, the best option is and 288 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: always has been, rip the band aid off, you move 289 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: on on, you go somewhere we think you can win. 290 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: We get some equity back where there's draft picks or 291 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: young players, whatever it is. But we accept the fact 292 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: that we had this great run there for a few years. 293 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: We were the winningest team in the NBA for four 294 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: or five seasons. We broke through, we won a championship. 295 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: There's a case to be made that Yanis is the 296 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: greatest player in Bucks franchise history. And it just ran 297 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: its course like everything else does. And for whatever reason, 298 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Jannis is so hell bent on looking like the good 299 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: guy and saving face and preserving this image that he is, 300 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: you know, the hero in Milwaukee, that he is a 301 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: guy who came over aus Shuck's eyes, want to grind 302 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: and put my head down and win. And then eventually 303 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: he broke through and he did win. And what happens 304 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: with that is the trajectory changes. It's no longer, oh, Jannis, 305 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: is this plucky story, this underdog kid from Grease who 306 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: broke through and won a championship. Now the question is, hey, 307 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: you got a couple of MVPs, you got a Defensive 308 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: Player of the Year, You've been All NBA for like 309 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: six or seven straight seasons. Oneampionship is no longer enough 310 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: for you. Like you're in a different stratosphere now. And 311 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: once he realized that, he started to manipulate the front office, 312 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: and you know, it's like, hey, I need more scoring 313 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: next to me. Drew Holliday, I love Drew. He's got 314 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: to go. Here comes Dame. Dame comes in. It's not 315 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: really working too well. And then the worst case scenario 316 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: pops in, Achilles, Let's get him out of there. Well, 317 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: in order to keep you happy, We're gonna flip Dame 318 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: and his contract. We're gonna wave and stretch it so 319 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: we can bring in Miles Turner. And it's just like 320 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: you're adding bad debt on top of bad debt on 321 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: top of bad debt, and eventually you got to pay 322 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: it off. And the way to pay it off again? Jannis, 323 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: I want out Milwaukee Cool? Where would you like to go? 324 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: I want to go X, Y and Z. Here's what 325 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: we can get for you. Case closed. Yeah. 326 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: I My guess is that this is gonna get really 327 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: ugly and it's gonna be Remember Anthony Davis was like 328 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: in street clothes, like refusing to play you want a 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: good Lakers so bad and they would boo him in 330 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: the arena. Do you think that this will get that 331 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: bad with they boo y Honest, he brought them a 332 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: title at least. 333 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: I don't think so, because in this scenario, Yiannis is 334 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: trying to make it seem like he's the noble one. No, 335 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to get shut down. 336 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 337 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: I might be too smart though, right right, But it's like, 338 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: and I hate to bring back my Raiders, but this 339 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: is very similar to the Max Crosby situation. The Raiders 340 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: wanted to shut down Max Crosby. He's legitimately hurt. And 341 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: that's that's right. Giannis is legitimately hurt. But we need 342 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: to get the numb one overall. Pick and you are 343 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: too good. You might wreck our chances to getting them 344 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: one overall. Pick Johannis, you are too good. You might 345 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: prevent us from getting the seven eight nine man up 346 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: with ten eleven twelve because you might find a way 347 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: to will us into the play in tournament or whatever. 348 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. And so fans, it's so hard for 349 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: a lot of them, because a lot of them are 350 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: are very simple minded what they see Isez No. Like, then, 351 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: this is not talking out to turn like you work 352 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: in sports media. You concern sports media content. You've seen 353 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: that the unwashed masses on Twitter. Oh take out. 354 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: There, like you know what I mean. 355 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 3: Like, even if you disagree with my take, there is 356 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: some logic behind it, whatever it is, even if it's 357 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: your your The one that you got this week was 358 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 3: that the kamboozer and Yokic, Like that was the one 359 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: that got you going there for a minute, for a 360 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: couple of hours at least. And even if I disagree 361 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: with your opinion, I know you enough. I listen to 362 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: the take I consumed it in such a way where 363 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: it's like, I can see there is some legitimate thought 364 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: behind this. I see how he got from this premise 365 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: to this conclusion. I can disagree with the conclusion, but 366 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: I can also tell that there was a lot of 367 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: thought and preparation involved to getting to it. And most 368 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: sports fans don't operate that way. All they see is 369 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: the end result. All they care about is the end results. 370 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: So all you're hearing is, look, man, I'm healthy, I'm 371 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: a competitor, I'm going to play. I'm not in the 372 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: business of tanking. I'm not in the business of losing 373 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: games on purpose. So you're gonna see a large faction, 374 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: if not the majority of Bucks fans say, see, Giannis 375 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: is about the right stuff. If only we can get 376 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: guys around him, they be going differently. Well, newsflash, guy, 377 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 3: the only way to get players around him is to 378 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: get the draft pick and either use it for a 379 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: player or flip it for assets. And they don't view 380 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: it that way. 381 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly looking bleak for the Bucks. I don't 382 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: know if he's gonna end up with the Lakers. We'll see, 383 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: but I want to quickly close it out, so I 384 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: saw this story that you know, there's gonna be NBA 385 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: expansion coming. It looks almost certainly like it's going to 386 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: be Seattle. 387 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: And what was the other team, rob Las Vegas? 388 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Obviously, Yes, there's a lot of chatter that, 389 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: you know, Lebron could own the Vegas team. 390 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see, it's it's a little early. The athletics 391 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: already shutting that down though Lebron will not. Yeah, they 392 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: said that his group, which is I guess the Fenway 393 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: Group that's his largest, you know, investment group, that they 394 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: are not interested in NBA expansion. So if Lebron's gonna 395 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: become an owner somewhere, he's gonna have to hit up 396 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: doctor Dre or someone else who can billion dollars out 397 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: of his own pocket, you know what I mean, Like 398 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: you gotta find a new group. 399 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 400 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 401 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 402 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: listen live. 403 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: They're targeting to twenty eight twenty nine season, and one 404 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: of the more interesting pushbacks I saw was from Bobby Marx, 405 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: the salary cap guy, who said we might want to 406 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: rethink expansion after looking at some of these scores the 407 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: last couple nights. In the past two games, Brooklyn has 408 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: trailed by a combined sixty points at the half. And 409 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: I get it. Maybe he's saying that tongue in cheek, 410 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: But I need Bobby. You know, I have never talked 411 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: to him. I've heard him on some podcasts. He's obviously 412 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: will he plugged in and knows his stuff worked in 413 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: the next front office, blah blah blah. But I need 414 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: people to see how teams are built in the NBA. 415 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: And he knows this because he worked for team. The 416 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons were awful for pretty much decade. They hit 417 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: some bites at the Apple up High, and they lent 418 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: Caid Cunningham in the draft. Now I remember I was 419 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: pro Jalen Green. What a bad call that was? Kid, 420 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: Cunningham was okay, had an injury, Jalen Green score score score, 421 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: and like, doesn't do anything else. And now Kate Cunningham's 422 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: an MVP candidate and Detroit has the number one record 423 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: in the East. The Boston Celtics were bad. They had 424 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: a great run with Rondo and KG and Pearson. Those 425 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: guys then they were rotten so bad that they drafted 426 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: at the top in back to back years and got 427 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. They have a title and 428 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: they're pro perennial contenders. I mean the Cleveland Cavaliers horrible 429 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: Evan Mobley in the draft, all the teams at the top, 430 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: even the Toronto Raptors who are shocking the ten games 431 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: over five hundred. Their best player Scotti Barnes. Do you 432 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: know how they got him? They were awful, now I know, Jason, Wait, 433 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: we're all those teams tanking. Do I remember if the 434 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: Celtics were straight up tanking eight years ago or whatever 435 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: it was. No, I don't. But bottom line is, being 436 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: awful is good. And then you look to the West 437 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: and it's like game over. The thunder tank for chet, 438 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: Holmgren got him. He's their second third best player. Now 439 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 2: they got Sgav a trade. Fine, but we can end 440 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: things with the San Antonio Spurs, who aggressively tanked, got 441 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: Web and Yama and are now set. They are way 442 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: ahead of schedule and they're not going anywhere. No, not 443 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: all tanking works out. See the New Orleans Pelicans. Ion Williamson, 444 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: I got it, but The bottom line is a lot 445 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: of the best players in the league were drafted at 446 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: the very top, the young best players. Jokic was not 447 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: Curry obviously a little older. Anthony Edwards was. But I 448 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 2: don't remember how much they tanked, and that's how you 449 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: get good quickly. That's okay. See, they were hideous back 450 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: when they were in Seattle. Got Kevin Durant, got Russell Westbrook. 451 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: Being bad is fine. There's nothing wrong with it. And 452 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: this draft, I don't know how much we've talked about it, 453 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: guys like ad Nauseum, like Rob, I'm pitching this idea 454 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: to the herd. I said it a couple times this week. 455 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: They don't love it because it's the draft is so 456 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: far out. I don't want the number one pick. I don't. 457 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be too much pressure because there's 458 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: so many good options now some people. Miles Simon was 459 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: on the show yesterday and he's like, well, I don't know, 460 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: I think there's really three or four. There's not like 461 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: six or seven number one picks. Okay, fine, you're still 462 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: your odds of whipping. Like aj Debonta, I don't want 463 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: to say he's bustproof. I think he's gonna be really good. 464 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: Darren Peterson may be a little trickier camera boozer. I 465 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: like him a lot. I think some people are gonna 466 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: be scared. I think he's probably gonna drop a little bit. 467 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: I think Caleb Wilson from UNC might be overdrafted. Doesn't 468 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: have the skill set, but the athleticism there. I think 469 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: Darius Acoff is a killer. But if Darius Acuff goes 470 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: to Sacramento at three, I don't know how good is 471 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: he gonna be. I don't know the answer to that. 472 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: By the way, on Foxmint, Sacramento best team they've probably 473 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: had in fifteen years, got to the playoffs. You know, 474 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: like great story. He's now gone, of course, but there's 475 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: so many good players up top that I would be 476 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: nervous that I was going to screw it up or 477 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't pick the right guy. Do you know the 478 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: pressure that GM is going to be under. It's similar 479 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: to the Bryce Young who they traded up for when 480 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: Cjstrod was there two Do you know how quickly they 481 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: fired the GM and the coach and everyone because it 482 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: was cleared they got the wrong guy. I mean, you 483 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: could do all the homework, you want were splitting hairs 484 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: on eighteen nineteen twenty year olds in the draft. We 485 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: are like, yeah, there's gonna be some automatic hits, but 486 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: this is going to be a tough one. Honestly, I 487 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: don't want to win the lottery. I definitely want to 488 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: be top three. Obviously, let's not get crazy, but I 489 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: don't I This isn't like the Zion one where it 490 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: was very clear Zion's the guy, right. This feels a 491 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: little different, And I think we're gonna find out in 492 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. You know, Okay, that guy, he looks 493 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: like he has it. I would not be shocked if 494 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: Darren Peterson took Kansas on some run, maybe they took 495 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: down Duke that that's not gonna surprise me. I've got 496 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: a lot of brackets. That's more than one of them. 497 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 2: But Rob, is it too hot of a take? Like 498 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't want the number one pick, but tanking works, 499 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: Like is that two all over the place? 500 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: There? No, because in this context it makes one hundred 501 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 3: percent sense, like historically to your point, like if it's 502 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: the Zion Williams and the Blake Griffin draft, like, hey, 503 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: you know that the gap between one and two is 504 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: pretty sizable, or if it's a situation like Greg Oden 505 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 3: and Kevin right now. Greg Oden became a punchline of 506 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: years later, but at the time it was like, hey, 507 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 3: if you get one of these first two picks, you 508 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: are gonna feel fantastic. Either got the best big man 509 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: since David Robinson prospect wise, or you have this seven 510 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: foot one hundred and twenty five pound guy who can 511 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: shoot the lights out and he's just incredible. What this 512 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: situation does is as badly hooed as this class is, 513 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: and we're gonna focus like on the top four or 514 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: five guys. Right kayleb Will coming off an injury, Oh, 515 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's gonna be fine, but you gotta get 516 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: factor that in. You didn't get to see a lot 517 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: of him this season because he got hurt. Darius Acuff 518 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: is everybody's favorite player, including mine. Right now. The problem 519 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: is that he is, you know, not a flash in 520 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: the pan, but he really came on late, like he 521 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: wasn't viewed in the same stratus for as the other 522 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: guys to start the season. Not to say that he 523 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: won't be even be better, but you got to factor 524 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 3: that part in. Aj Debanza great player, probably the most 525 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: prototype in terms of traits. You know, six or nine wing, 526 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: you can handle, do it all. The fact that he 527 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: went to BYU, I think is going to raise some 528 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 3: people's eyebrows a little bit. Like what I think anytime 529 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 3: you see a five star player end up at a 530 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: not five star destination, I think it kind of makes 531 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 3: you think, like, hey, is he worried about being the star? 532 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: Does he really want to just be the man? It's 533 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: kind of similar to Ace Bailey how to deal with 534 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: last year going to Rutgers. It's like, well, do you 535 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: really want to win or do you just want to 536 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: get all the shots? Now? I don't think that. I 537 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: don't know if that's a fair comparison with the Bats, 538 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: but like that's gonna be discussed. Darren Peterson were talking 539 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: about him ad nauseum. Does he really love the NBA 540 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: or does he love basketball? You know? Or is this 541 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: full body cramp? Like is his injuries history even worse 542 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: than we thought? And Cameron Boozer, who seems like the 543 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: safest pick, is not super explosive to your Jokic point, 544 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: Like he's not the most high flyingest guy. So it's 545 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: like any one of these guys you could make the 546 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: case as being the best player available in the draft. 547 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: The problem is, I can't definitively say that the gap 548 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 3: between number one and number five is that big. So 549 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: if I take Boozer and he ends up being good 550 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: but not great, I'm gonna look stupid. If two of 551 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 3: the next three guys are awesome. If I end up 552 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 3: taking Darren Peterson because I bought into the preseason hype 553 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: and he ends up having full body cramps all the 554 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: time and missing you know, twenty five games a season, 555 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: and Cameron Booser ends up being, you know, to your point, 556 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: a mini Jokic, then I'm gonna look stupid. So this 557 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: might be a situation where let somebody else take the 558 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: risk of number one, and I'll gladly accept whoever's available, 559 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: because we all agree that these five dudes can be transformative. 560 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: So you almost would rather take the guesswork out of 561 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: it and just be forced into a decision. 562 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: Are you of the belief that like it's not happening. Obviously, 563 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: but I don't think there's like a talent deficiency around 564 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: the league. This idea we can't expand is not what 565 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: are they talking about? Anybody who's against expansion is silly. 566 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: I mean it's not. I know you're gonna say, well, 567 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: there's like seven bad teams tanking. Yeah, because it's a 568 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: great draft. That's why they're tanking. They're not tanking like 569 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: because they want like a shot at the number one pick. 570 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: There's like a lot of potential franchise players in this draft. Now, again, 571 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: we didn't think Jyleb Brown was a franchise player. I 572 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: don't think anybody did. They're like, oh, it's really really good. 573 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, expansion is gonna work. It's gonna be fine. 574 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Will there be growing pains, Yeah, just like they were 575 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: the Michael Jordan expansion era. You guys seem to forget 576 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: the nineties when the Miami Heat stunk. Orlando Magic were 577 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: awful for a few years before they landed. Oh look 578 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: at that Shack and Penny in the draft. You know, 579 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: it's like, come on, anyways, these NBA people, all right, folks, 580 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: get to bed early. Hope you got a good night's 581 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: sleep because it is on and popping with the NCAA 582 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: tournament on Thursday. We'll see you tomorrow.