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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm Paul Charchian, joining me
Speaker 1: this week co host.
Speaker 3: Thor nystro Hey, buddy, it's time to talk rookies again.
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 5: And we're so close to the season. Now you can
Speaker 5: start to smell the tailgate.
Speaker 3: We're so close. Oh God, can't wait.
Speaker 1: We're just weeks away, like two and a half weeks
Speaker 1: away from training camps.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1: And you and I have already tucked rookies more around
Speaker 1: the draft, but it's time to circle back.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: You've spent more time with these guys. I've spent more
Speaker 1: time with them. We've had a chance to look at
Speaker 1: guys in OTA's and mini camps, and we want to
Speaker 1: talk about some.
Speaker 3: Of the deep sleepers. Right. We we know about the
Speaker 3: obvious guys. We want to drill deeper.
Speaker 1: And you weren't yet on the show at this time
Speaker 1: last year, Thor. But it had you been on this show,
Speaker 1: you'd have been talking up pookin Akua, because when you
Speaker 1: did get on the show.
Speaker 3: In August, you were talking to Pooka Nakula.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, banging the drum. We're gonna bang the drum
Speaker 5: for some guys today. I can't promise that they'll become
Speaker 5: Pooka Nakula, but they are guys that to be monitoring
Speaker 5: that could fit, you know, yeah, jumping off really quickly.
Speaker 1: There almost can't be another Pookinakua. That's I mean, you
Speaker 1: could go a lot, you go ten years and there's
Speaker 1: just not another rookie fifth rounder who does what he
Speaker 1: did last year for sure.
Speaker 3: And that's not your fault. That's just like the math.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, I mean like almost a once in
Speaker 5: a lifetime think you're not going to get a Day
Speaker 5: three guy shattering all the NFL records again as a rookie.
Speaker 5: But I think we got some guys in here we
Speaker 5: can point people to where they can get really really
Speaker 5: good values on them because they're being overlooked in fantasy
Speaker 5: drafts right now.
Speaker 1: So going through your list of guys everybody were going
Speaker 1: to talk about in rookie drafts are going at least
Speaker 1: at eighty P eighteen or higher. Most of these guys
Speaker 1: are going in the twenties and thirties or even forties
Speaker 1: of rookie drafts. Rookie drafts correct, So these are all deep.
Speaker 1: These are deep, right, right, So we're not expecting every
Speaker 1: one of these guys to hit. And also, these guys
Speaker 1: all have warts, right, I mean, if they didn't have
Speaker 1: any warts, they wouldn't be at you know, eighty, you know,
Speaker 1: the rookie ADP wouldn't be thirty five thou right, So
Speaker 1: you know, keep it, you know, keep that in mind
Speaker 1: as we're talking through this. We'll we'll talk about some
Speaker 1: of the good and bad for all of these guys,
Speaker 1: and we'll do it by position or let's beget a quarterback.
Speaker 1: It goes without saying for anybody who allowed here for
Speaker 1: the last year, JJ McCarthy his rookie ADP is eighteen.
Speaker 1: So this is the most highly ranked of anybody we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about in this set.
Speaker 5: The only first round that we're going to. But of course,
Speaker 5: you know, again I had to sneak the man, you.
Speaker 1: Know, any chance to talk about jjmrect But let me
Speaker 1: set the Let me set the table this way. Almost
Speaker 1: everything we're hearing out of the Vikings from both externally
Speaker 1: that they're saying openly to the media and everything i'm
Speaker 1: hearing back channel, everything that is being discussed in the media.
Speaker 1: They all say the Vikings are going to take their
Speaker 1: time on JJ McCarthy. And there's a very real scenario
Speaker 1: where Sam Darnold, now surrounded by the best talent of
Speaker 1: his life, has a long runway here. So talk to
Speaker 1: me about what you if a do you disagree with
Speaker 1: any of that, because you're welcome to and there could
Speaker 1: be a lot of smoke screen here and it could
Speaker 1: be the JJ McCarthy just too good to leave on
Speaker 1: the bench. What how if you were to if I
Speaker 1: were to put a weak number on when JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: starts this year, if at all, what do you.
Speaker 4: Think before the midway point of the season.
Speaker 3: Okay, they got a buy in week six, I'll mention that.
Speaker 4: But I think it could be right around then.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's where I put it on your good you know,
Speaker 5: And they're the way that they're conveying this to the
Speaker 5: public gets the right way. You're being deferential to a veteran,
Speaker 5: but also a veteran who is literal real life friends
Speaker 5: with the quarterback coach is very they played together with
Speaker 5: the Jets, very friendly with the head coach, and they
Speaker 5: brought him in. You know, they sold him on this idea,
Speaker 5: Darnold I'm talking about of you know, revitalizing his career,
Speaker 5: et cetera. I would expect him to get that first opportunity,
Speaker 5: but I don't think it's the lock that other people
Speaker 5: do that McCarthy doesn't. You know, either start week one
Speaker 5: or shortly thereafter, you need to get the if you're
Speaker 5: the Vikings, you need to get the referendum on JJ
Speaker 5: McCarthy this coming season. You need to know if he's
Speaker 5: the answer for a year two. So he going to
Speaker 5: be starting for at least half that season. I think
Speaker 5: a little bit more than that, and I think that
Speaker 5: they're going to give him at least a shot in
Speaker 5: camp right now. They're modulating his footwork into longer throws
Speaker 5: and then the throws down the sideline. Something we talked
Speaker 5: about during the pre draft process about how JJ loves
Speaker 5: to come over the top with that exaggerated lead step.
Speaker 5: The kids got a bazooka, but a lot of the
Speaker 5: throws they're bullet type throws like that down when you're
Speaker 5: going down the field, you want to deduct some of
Speaker 5: the velocity for trajectory, arch, touch, et cetera. That's what
Speaker 5: they're working on him with right now. How quickly will
Speaker 5: that take? Will that take by mid August late August
Speaker 5: to give him a shot early in the season to
Speaker 5: potentially see the field or do they want to go
Speaker 5: a little bit slower. But either way, I think we're
Speaker 5: gonna see JJ out there quick.
Speaker 1: Viking schedule is opening schedule before that Week six spy,
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty darn tough and that could factor into this.
Speaker 1: If the Vikings are looking at one in five rolling
Speaker 1: into that buy, that might.
Speaker 3: Be it, right.
Speaker 4: I think that would be it, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5: And with McCarthy, we talked about this around the draft
Speaker 5: of you have the best supporting cast of certainly any
Speaker 5: quarterback that got taken in this class. Some people think
Speaker 5: it's the best of the past twenty five years of
Speaker 5: a first round rookie going in there. You have that,
Speaker 5: but with McCarthy you have the arm town as well.
Speaker 5: But I think the fantasy community is sleeping on the
Speaker 5: athleticism and the amount of value they could get from
Speaker 5: his legs. Sixth fastest three cone regardless of position at
Speaker 5: the NFL. Combine also ran a four four eight forty
Speaker 5: at Michigan. He would have run in the four fourth
Speaker 5: had he run he did run during the pre draft process.
Speaker 5: Didn't need to go in the top ten. But those
Speaker 5: legs will add value as well at the next level.
Speaker 1: And that's something nobody's really talking about, is JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: is somebody that's gonna chip in twenty five thirty forty
Speaker 1: rushing yards per game, and that is that is possible
Speaker 1: for him. Kevin O'Connell doesn't have a history of calling
Speaker 1: designed quarterback runs and he obviously with Kirk Cousins you
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that, But weirdly, he also didn't do it
Speaker 1: with Josh Dobbs and that was like the only thing
Speaker 1: Josh Jobs could do was run, and O'Connell still.
Speaker 3: Didn't do it.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know where the running is
Speaker 1: going to settle in, but McCarthy's got.
Speaker 3: The ability to do that.
Speaker 1: Let me just mention the Vikings opening schedule here before
Speaker 1: the buye. They're a pick them against the Giants in
Speaker 1: Week one, and then it's all bad, bad news after
Speaker 1: that Niners. Week two Texans. I've got the Texans, as
Speaker 1: my AFC Super Bowl team tells you how I feel
Speaker 1: about them. Then they go at lambeau Field. Then they've
Speaker 1: got the Jets and the best maybe the best defense
Speaker 1: in the league, and then they go into their by.
Speaker 1: So if you know, even if they win that game
Speaker 1: against the Giants, the probability in the betting line would
Speaker 1: suggest this team's rolling into their Week six by at
Speaker 1: one and four.
Speaker 5: I think it would be JJ time at that point.
Speaker 5: And I totally agree with that breakdown as well. Also,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, the kid just turned twenty one.
Speaker 5: He was twenty win Michigan won the national title. There's
Speaker 5: no reason to rush this and and I don't think
Speaker 5: the Vikings will. But I again like, I think he's
Speaker 5: going to be prove himself to be a better quarterback
Speaker 5: than Darnold.
Speaker 1: In short order, give me the deep dynasty pick that
Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So we this year in the draft, we had of course,
Speaker 5: as everyone knows, we had the sixth goal right away,
Speaker 5: but then after that, after the sixth Bonnecks was taken,
Speaker 5: we didn't have another run. End of the first round,
Speaker 5: second round, third round, four or fourth round half.
Speaker 4: So there was this enormous weight.
Speaker 5: Once we got to the fifth round, the New Orleans
Speaker 5: Saints end up taking Spencer Rattler for dynasty owners, That's
Speaker 5: a guy that I would monitor. He's only behind car
Speaker 5: right now. And then nominally Jay Cayner. Spencer Ratler is
Speaker 5: a better quarterback than Jay Cayner. Spencer Ratler people might forget.
Speaker 5: He was the top quarterback in his recruiting class coming
Speaker 5: out and the first hand picked high school quarterback that
Speaker 5: it ever started for Lincoln Riley. As a red shirt
Speaker 5: freshman at Oklahoma, Spencer Rattler was absolutely incredible. People were
Speaker 5: putting him as like the two early mocks, as the
Speaker 5: number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 4: The next year was when Kayleb Williams gets the town
Speaker 4: and the whole thing got blown up.
Speaker 5: Then Spencer Ratler transfers to South Carolina, where they had
Speaker 5: one of the worst pass blocking offensive lines in the
Speaker 5: entire country.
Speaker 3: It was unreal.
Speaker 1: I was trying to evaluate Spencer Rattler for the draft
Speaker 1: thor you can't find a clean pocket for him to
Speaker 1: just set up, And I'm just asking myself, what does
Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler do in a clean pocket. When he's setting
Speaker 1: up and he's throwing more than three yards downfield and
Speaker 1: there's like.
Speaker 3: No plays like that, the guy was just getting.
Speaker 4: Murdered back there thousand percent.
Speaker 5: Last time we saw it was during that red shirt
Speaker 5: freshman year in twenty twenty at Oklahoma. He was number four.
Speaker 5: Spencer Ratler was in the nation that year with a
Speaker 5: ninety two point five PFF grade, which is sick led
Speaker 5: the FBS and PFF big time throws under pressure and
Speaker 5: passing grade out of structure. That gets back to what
Speaker 5: hisar Rattler is similar ish in this regard to Bryce Young,
Speaker 5: a guy who likes the field spread back in shotgun
Speaker 5: so he can see the whole thing, and then he
Speaker 5: likes to maneuver around to buy a little time, change
Speaker 5: the launch angles and stuff like that. When you're moving around,
Speaker 5: but you have a terrible sieve of an offensive line
Speaker 5: that is immediately allowing pressure, your game is going to create,
Speaker 5: which it did for Ratler at the beginning of twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two. He figured it out the last three or
Speaker 5: four games of that season, ripped up Clemson, ripped up
Speaker 5: Notre Dame. He just had a great Tennessee great under
Speaker 5: the season, and then this year the offensive line is
Speaker 5: still stunk. Most of their guys had transferred out, Marshawn
Speaker 5: Lloyd had transferred out. They guys go to the NFL.
Speaker 5: Juice Wells gets hurt. He only had Xavier Legett there.
Speaker 5: It was Xavier Lagat and pray for rain At helth Carolina.
Speaker 5: But he played a lot better this year and going
Speaker 5: to the NFL, he's finally going to be playing behind
Speaker 5: a competent offensive line. I think that's where you could
Speaker 5: see Spencer Ratler's pocket passing talent start to coalesce again.
Speaker 1: All right, so he's he's only behind Derek Carr with
Speaker 1: the Saints. It's not, you know, Derek carrs doesn't exactly
Speaker 1: electrify anybody, you know. I would it surprise me if
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler is the starter next year.
Speaker 4: No, No, not at all. And you think about this
Speaker 4: coming season.
Speaker 5: If Rattler indeed does beat out Jake Canner, which I
Speaker 5: think is well with likely Yeah, and then the Saints
Speaker 5: have a disappointing season, you might want to be getting
Speaker 5: a look there at Ratler at the end of the season,
Speaker 5: even if car doesn't end up getting hurt.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to move a little more quickly
Speaker 1: through the rest of our list, but let's go to
Speaker 1: running backs.
Speaker 3: Marshawn Lloyd.
Speaker 1: If slots into Green Bay, obviously he's gonna He's got
Speaker 1: a battle for time with Josh Jacobs. He's the USC
Speaker 1: kid via South Carolina. As you mentioned, strong, a little
Speaker 1: on the short side, but he runs upright, making him,
Speaker 1: I think, feel taller than he actually measured at the combine.
Speaker 3: I worry a little bit about.
Speaker 1: Whether or not he's got NFL speed, but I like
Speaker 1: the power side of Marshawn Lloyd's game. Talk to me
Speaker 1: a little bit about him and why you think he's
Speaker 1: a good sleeper candidate.
Speaker 5: When he first got taken by the Packers, I hated
Speaker 5: the landing spot, of course, and it sort of threw
Speaker 5: some cold water on it for me, even though I
Speaker 5: love the prospect. But thinking about it more and then
Speaker 5: hearing from people around the Packers, I think Lloyd is
Speaker 5: going to be nipping at Jacobs's heels real quick. Jacob's
Speaker 5: contract so he got four years, forty eight million dollars.
Speaker 4: What it actually is is a two year, twenty three
Speaker 4: point six million.
Speaker 3: Dollars, but that's still good running back money.
Speaker 4: Still solid running back money.
Speaker 5: But the Packers are going to be out of that
Speaker 5: thing after next season, after the twenty twenty five season,
Speaker 5: and you talk about not having incentive. Potentially you play
Speaker 5: the better running back who is younger, if you know
Speaker 5: you're gonna cut Jacobs the end of that year, that's
Speaker 5: where I think for sure Lloyd ends up bypassing him.
Speaker 5: I love Lloyd's talent. Jacobs last year, the way that
Speaker 5: he looked out there coming off that three hundred plus
Speaker 5: touch season that he'd had the year before. We have
Speaker 5: numbers on this going back years and years and years,
Speaker 5: and Jacobs appeared to depreciate a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last year, he didn't looked like the prior guy.
Speaker 1: We may find out that he was playing her or whatever,
Speaker 1: or just the totality of the Adrian O'Connell offense was
Speaker 1: not good and we had you know, there was even
Speaker 1: worse quarterbacking than that at various times throughout the year
Speaker 1: for Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 3: So you can make an excuse. Can you can think that.
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs has the right to get better on a
Speaker 1: way better offense, And I think that's probably the case,
Speaker 1: but maybe again a little bit like Spencer Rallert next year,
Speaker 1: who's your starter?
Speaker 5: That's it for Dynasty guys in particular, especially because Lloyd
Speaker 5: is going at a discomb because of that situation. Right,
Speaker 5: but AJ Dillon can be cut at any time, was.
Speaker 4: Given very I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even think. Yeah, I think he could.
Speaker 5: Cut this preseason, absolutely yeah, with no pain for the Packers.
Speaker 5: So you can already consider Lloyd RB two with a
Speaker 5: bullet And again, Jacob's only on that two year deal.
Speaker 5: Other thing I'd say is I think Lloyd is a
Speaker 5: better early down runner than Josh Jacobs. I think we're Jacobs.
Speaker 5: It could become some sort of a time split distribution,
Speaker 5: with Lloyd getting a lot more of those early down
Speaker 5: type lie around the goal line, short yardage, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Initially at Jacobs of course is gonna be on the
Speaker 5: field for all the passing downs. He skilled it that,
Speaker 5: but that's something to keep an eye on as a
Speaker 5: rookie as well.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Kamani Videll. He lands at
Speaker 1: the Chargers intriguing spot. This is the kid from Troy.
Speaker 1: Not many of us were watching Troy football, but they
Speaker 1: brought in Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins, who who followed
Speaker 1: Greg Roman from Baltimore over here. Roman, you know, had
Speaker 1: been the long time offensive coordinated there prior.
Speaker 3: To last year. He's an interesting guy. I like to burst.
Speaker 1: He's a good three down back. He's got better hands
Speaker 1: than any other back on the Chargers roster, and he's
Speaker 1: a good pass protector. Bidell could end up being for
Speaker 1: a factor in the passing.
Speaker 3: Game like Week one. He could be somebody who gets
Speaker 3: on the field.
Speaker 5: That way one thousand percent. Jim Harbaugh, everybody knows his offense.
Speaker 5: The ethos is you run on the early downs and
Speaker 5: then on third down either you have to get the
Speaker 5: conversions you mentioned. Vedell was the best pass blocking back
Speaker 5: in this class, so that is the passing down stuff.
Speaker 5: I do think he's going to be on the field
Speaker 5: on passing downs as a rookie. I also think he
Speaker 5: has a decent shot to upset the two veterans ahead
Speaker 5: of them, who also are not being given much. That
Speaker 5: Chargers don't have a lot invested in those guys, Vdell.
Speaker 5: What happened with the Chargers, They were certainly monitoring Blake
Speaker 5: Korum during the draft ends up getting taken by the
Speaker 5: other Los Angeles team across town. Vedell is about as
Speaker 5: close as an animal gam for quorum as you could get.
Speaker 5: They're about in the same physical package, but Vedell is
Speaker 5: more athletic, was a ninetieth percentile athlete during the pre
Speaker 5: draft process, also finished number two last season in the
Speaker 5: NCAA and broken tackles, broken tackles.
Speaker 4: Force excuse me.
Speaker 5: He is very, very tough to square up, and he
Speaker 5: runs like a bullet. It's just straightforward, hard charging. He
Speaker 5: packs a lot more power into that condensed bowling ball frame.
Speaker 4: I think then it sort of sneaks up on defenders.
Speaker 1: I loved both Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins prior to
Speaker 1: their ACLS. They both, to me looked really, really good,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really sad that the ACLS appeared to
Speaker 1: have sapped the careers out of both of those guys.
Speaker 3: Yes, but you know, but that's the nature of this game.
Speaker 1: And Videl's got a chance to make an impact and
Speaker 1: pass those guys on the depth chart, perhaps as early
Speaker 1: again as week one. Absolutely, let's go to audric estime.
Speaker 1: He lands in Denver, a spot I do not like
Speaker 1: in this and what we're gonna end up talking about. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because I'm a big Julia McLoughlin guy, I love him
Speaker 1: and so I really I don't want to hear about
Speaker 1: how great estimate is that he may end up passing
Speaker 1: Jaliel because that's kind of my that's kind of my guy.
Speaker 3: But let's talk about the Notre Dame back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, someone who doesn't like someone a Broncos running back
Speaker 5: as Sean Payton doesn't appear to like Javonte Williams.
Speaker 3: And I didn't either. I thought he was bad last year.
Speaker 5: So Jalil certainly is going to be on the field,
Speaker 5: but he can't be on the field always, right.
Speaker 4: There's size limitations.
Speaker 5: Right there, and they're not a workhorse back. There's certain
Speaker 5: things that are outside of his skill set as well.
Speaker 5: Odric Estimate is not competing against Jalio. He is coming
Speaker 5: against Javonte Walliams. That that is a guy that he
Speaker 5: can beat, and then if that ends up happening, you
Speaker 5: get some of the early downlooks, certainly the short yarded
Speaker 5: stuff end around the goal line. Estimate is a sledgehammer
Speaker 5: of a running back. Is six feet tall, two hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty one pounds, runs with a ton of oomf
Speaker 5: and power runs over guys. And he was only twenty
Speaker 5: years old when he got drafted. These the one thing
Speaker 5: he lacks, it's the long speed. You know, around four
Speaker 5: to seven or high four to six is type speed.
Speaker 5: But what he can do again is grind out those
Speaker 5: yards every single time. It's like a Lee Ray Horde thing.
Speaker 5: You need one year to get you three years. You
Speaker 5: need five yards to get you three years.
Speaker 4: That is utteric esime in the NFL.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Tyrone Tracy, who lands in
Speaker 1: a good spot with the Giants. Really not a lot
Speaker 1: of competition there. Singletary's there is the presumed starter. The
Speaker 1: Purdue kid is a converted wide receiver. He's a kick returner.
Speaker 1: He's got this long, loping stride that you don't normally
Speaker 1: see in running backs. And I don't love that part.
Speaker 1: And he's got that slight build. But man, you get
Speaker 1: him an open space and he looks really good. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody looks good and open space, But tell me your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Tyrone Tracy here.
Speaker 5: Well, when he gets out into that open space, he
Speaker 5: had the ninety eight percentile. He's got all the wheels
Speaker 5: in the world four four eight during the pre draft process.
Speaker 5: The other thing with him, he had more feel for
Speaker 5: running than I would certainly have given him credit for
Speaker 5: or thought was possible after he had converted to running
Speaker 5: back after unfortunately playing four years at receiver at the
Speaker 5: University of Iowa, which.
Speaker 3: Doesn't give you a lot of volume.
Speaker 5: No, and he was obviously frustrated by both you know,
Speaker 5: the amount of targets he was getting and then also
Speaker 5: the development he was getting there. But he found his
Speaker 5: destiny going to produce switching to running back. Last year's
Speaker 5: Purdue team was absolutely awful, and teams, especially the passing
Speaker 5: game teams were able to load up against the run.
Speaker 5: Despite that, Tyrone Tracy one hundred and sixty three point
Speaker 5: five elusive rating four point four to four yards after
Speaker 5: contact per attempt. Both of those were the highest of
Speaker 5: any of my top thirty ranked running backs in the
Speaker 5: last class. Wow, and Tracy can get out into space.
Speaker 5: And this is for people out there that play in
Speaker 5: leagues where they count kickoff return stats at lower touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Another reason to maybe bump Tracy up a little bit
Speaker 5: in your rankings. I think he is going to take
Speaker 5: over as the kick returner there right away, you have
Speaker 5: the new rules.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: What I like about his running style, I mean this
Speaker 5: is the running style thing that goes back into the
Speaker 5: kickoffs he had, Like I said, has the decent feel,
Speaker 5: runs with the wide base and he can slash over,
Speaker 5: you know, sort of bouncy, make people miss the first
Speaker 5: guy off the cut, and then he finds his open crease.
Speaker 5: That's where you see Tyrone. Tracy hit the burners. Only
Speaker 5: Devin Singletary really ahead of him. I don't think much
Speaker 5: of Eric Gray. I think Tracy goes in as RB two.
Speaker 5: It's a team that might be. They're amid a rebuild
Speaker 5: right now. They don't have a ton of loyalty to
Speaker 5: Singletary who just came in. I think Tracy again nipping
Speaker 5: at his heels early on, and if Singletary gets hurt,
Speaker 5: I think Tracy becomes the RB one.
Speaker 1: There your deep dynasty guy, somebody. I really haven't spent
Speaker 1: much time with Dylan Lowby. Dylan Lowby lands in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: Where do he play again? Remind me he played at
Speaker 4: New Hampshire and yah.
Speaker 3: That's why I did not see a lot of Dylan Lowby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, he was up there in the FCS.
Speaker 5: But the thing that he is really really good at
Speaker 5: it's catching the ball. And right now, the Raiders at
Speaker 5: running back, you have Samir White. He is a grinder. Yeah,
Speaker 5: sort of just the guy, but he's a grinder. Alexander
Speaker 5: Madison stings. I'm sorry, mister Madison, if you're out there,
Speaker 5: I think Lowby takes over right away as that team's
Speaker 5: passing down back. Samir White for sure is going to
Speaker 5: have the early downstuff and you're gonna give him all
Speaker 5: the handoffs and whatnot. But you need to have Dylan
Speaker 5: Lobby on the field on passing downs. He's really, really,
Speaker 5: really skilled at that.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so PPR League Dylan Lobby as somebody
Speaker 1: that you can you can throw throw a dart at
Speaker 1: at with a last pick of your Dynasty draft. I
Speaker 1: like Ray Davis, you and I disagree on him, the
Speaker 1: kid from Louisville. You and I've talked about him way
Speaker 1: back shortly after the draft, as I recall what you
Speaker 1: were talking about with Ray Davis and who landed in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Kid from you Louisville. Was you like that he can
Speaker 1: do everything? You feel like he does everything? Okay, but
Speaker 1: he's not special in anything, and you have to have
Speaker 1: some special traits to succeed in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I think he's really good at everything.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I think he's like an eight out of ten at everything.
Speaker 1: He's just not a nine or a ten.
Speaker 3: And I think there's going to.
Speaker 1: Be a role for Ray Davis to play, and perhaps
Speaker 1: at the goal line, because James Cook is really he's
Speaker 1: not a power back, and Ray Davis can.
Speaker 3: He can really give you some oomph. And I like
Speaker 3: this kid and well and.
Speaker 1: Buffalo is just based on the wide receivers, they're going
Speaker 1: to have to do more with their running backs than
Speaker 1: they did last year.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, and that is a role that I could
Speaker 5: see him taking over pretty early. On My nitpick with
Speaker 5: Davis was more the lack of ceiling and at that
Speaker 5: position in the draft, I would be swinging for the
Speaker 5: fences every single time. But to your point, Thank he's
Speaker 5: solid to good at almost every metric that you would
Speaker 5: look at running back play. It's just you don't have
Speaker 5: this special athleticism, you don't have some of.
Speaker 4: The special trades.
Speaker 5: But for a guy what they're looking for behind Cook,
Speaker 5: I think he could absolutely fit the bill this year.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the wide receiver position, Thor. We've got
Speaker 1: some deep sleepers, beginning with Roman Wilson, currently going off
Speaker 1: the board in antasy drafts as pick number twenty one
Speaker 1: in Rookie Dynasty drafts. This is the kid from Michigan.
Speaker 1: There were things I liked about him. I liked the separation.
Speaker 1: I like that he finds cushion. I liked his route tree.
Speaker 1: I liked how many routes he ran over the.
Speaker 3: Middle of the field and could be effective in the
Speaker 3: middle of the field.
Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to play wide receiver when you
Speaker 1: don't have any defenders on one side of you, because
Speaker 1: that's the sideline. I like guys who can find separation
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. There's a lot about
Speaker 1: Roman Wilson that I find pretty compelling, and he finds
Speaker 1: himself now with the Steelers and a team with a
Speaker 1: lot of need at receiver.
Speaker 5: A lot of need at receiver, and Roman Wilson going
Speaker 5: to be the starting slot from day one. He was
Speaker 5: the second that they turned that cart, and you know,
Speaker 5: to your point, you're looking at their depth. Charte, George
Speaker 5: Pickens and Van Jefferson and.
Speaker 3: Van Jefferson, I love.
Speaker 4: They have to put the.
Speaker 5: Ball in the air at some point, and I think
Speaker 5: Roman Wilson is going to command a lot of targets immediately.
Speaker 5: For a guy right now who in Rookie ADP is
Speaker 5: the twenty first rookie going off the board, I just
Speaker 5: think that that's a little cheap for him. I think
Speaker 5: he should be going a little bit above that. He's small,
Speaker 5: for sure, one hundred and eighty five pounds five to ten,
Speaker 5: but he's athletic eighty six percentile runs in the high
Speaker 5: four threes.
Speaker 4: And the thing with him is.
Speaker 5: Yes, the body is small, and that's why he has
Speaker 5: to play the slot. But the thing that I always
Speaker 5: point out with Roman Wilson, he had only two drops
Speaker 5: zero fumbles twenty twenty two, only one drop, zero fumbles
Speaker 5: last year as the wide receiver one for Michigan's undefeated team.
Speaker 5: And the reason to extrapolate this ford and think it
Speaker 5: has predictive value is well, Roman Wilson's body is small.
Speaker 5: His hands happened to be enormous. He has the They're
Speaker 5: bigger than Roman Dunesa's hands. Roman Wilson are one eighth
Speaker 5: of an inch smaller than Marvin Harrison's. They're the same
Speaker 5: size as Xavier la Get all these receivers that are
Speaker 5: bigger than him. Yeah, he doesn't flub balls. He's extremely
Speaker 5: reliable running the routes like you mentioned, And he's not
Speaker 5: one of those slots, for instance, like Malachi Corley, another
Speaker 5: rookie where you have to manufacture such as close to
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. Roman Wilson can win deep and
Speaker 5: did plenty for JJ McCarthy in that Michigan team.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Jermaine from Alabama via Georgia
Speaker 1: where he was very lightly used, goes to Alabama, still
Speaker 1: kind of lightly used. He falls into Cincinnati. I see
Speaker 1: a very raw project, but I see an NFL level
Speaker 1: athlete in Jermaine Burton. I don't know that he has
Speaker 1: an impact this year, but with the T Higgins thing
Speaker 1: really on a timer, at this time next year, there.
Speaker 3: Is another one of those.
Speaker 1: At this time next year, Jermaine Burton could be a
Speaker 1: starting receiver for an offense led by Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Which is a pretty good spot to be in.
Speaker 5: For sure, it is and Jermaine Burton. This is going
Speaker 5: to come down to Jermaine Burton deciding he wants to
Speaker 5: be an above average NFL player or stay in the
Speaker 5: NFL for a while. The talent has never been an
Speaker 5: issue for Jermaine Burton. It's always been his attitude. And
Speaker 5: if he corrects that and that's different going forward, he
Speaker 5: will be a long term starter with the Bengals obviously
Speaker 5: a very advantageous passing environment there.
Speaker 4: Last year, Jermain Burton didn't get.
Speaker 5: To show off his all the skills that he has
Speaker 5: because he had a ludicrous twenty point two a dot
Speaker 5: that led this wide receiver class, which be because the
Speaker 5: quarterback he was playing with at Alabama, Jalen Millroe, a
Speaker 5: scrambler who then also just chucks the ball a mile.
Speaker 5: The accuracy of everything in between can come and go.
Speaker 5: But that's why Jermaine Burton was down the field so much.
Speaker 5: Earlier in his career. He showed he could win short
Speaker 5: make people miss, and then the intermediate range as well.
Speaker 5: So I think this guy potentially could win at all
Speaker 5: three levels in the NFL, certainly as the athleticism for it,
Speaker 5: will the attitude be there for Jermaine Burton.
Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey is next on your list. You and I
Speaker 1: are going to disagree on Luke McCaffrey. I don't like
Speaker 1: him looking at you, and you've seen more of him
Speaker 1: than I have, just watching a couple of games of
Speaker 1: routes and and and passes his way. I don't like
Speaker 1: the size. I don't like how underpowered he is. I
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of separation. I just think he
Speaker 1: needs more strength. I understand just reading up on him.
Speaker 1: The intangibles are phenomenal, and obviously he's in the McCaffrey family,
Speaker 1: So you know that's family. The DNA is good, but
Speaker 1: I didn't love the production. And you know, and Rice,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how much I can gage. The
Speaker 1: last notable player to come from Rice is Tommy Kramer. Right,
Speaker 1: talk to me about Luke McCaffrey and tell me why
Speaker 1: I'm ron.
Speaker 5: Luke McCaffrey I think is a perfect fit for Washington,
Speaker 5: particularly because of the game of their first pick, Jalen Daniels,
Speaker 5: where he loves to throw the ball.
Speaker 4: Down the field, Yes, including to the slot.
Speaker 5: Now, I think McCaffrey could play either inside or outside
Speaker 5: at the next level. He played seventy percent of his
Speaker 5: snaps in the slot. Well at Rice thirty percent on
Speaker 5: the outside. But the reason for that was Number One,
Speaker 5: Luke McCaffrey just started playing the wide receiver position two
Speaker 5: years ago after busting as a dual threat quarterback earlier
Speaker 5: in his career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the G.
Speaker 5: Five programs a lot of times will put their best
Speaker 5: receiver closer to the quarterback make it easier on them.
Speaker 5: But McCaffrey is tremendous down the field. Tremendous is getting
Speaker 5: down the field and then the contested situations down there.
Speaker 5: Seventeen of twenty eight last year, only three drops on
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty targets in twenty twenty three. That
Speaker 5: guy catches all these balls in tight quarters between two defenders,
Speaker 5: a defender descending down on him, catches the ball, gets smacked,
Speaker 5: his helmet pops off. Whether that's playing the slot which
Speaker 5: jalen last year, Jayden and Daniels throwing downtown to Molik
Speaker 5: neighbors all the time, or on the other side of
Speaker 5: McLaren depending on what happens with Johan dottson there. McCaffrey
Speaker 5: can win down the field. I also think you're going
Speaker 5: to see more of progression from him as a route runner,
Speaker 5: certainly in the intermediate range.
Speaker 4: Again, keep in mind he only.
Speaker 5: Played those two years of a receiver after switching over
Speaker 5: the one other thing to keep in mind with McCaffrey vs.
Speaker 5: AV his fantasy value the next level the former dual
Speaker 5: threat quarterback thing. He can do trick plays, and Rice
Speaker 5: had a whole lot of fun with him on ender
Speaker 5: rounds and gadget plays. McCaffrey ended up breaking twenty five
Speaker 5: tackles over the last two years, did not fumble the
Speaker 5: ball one time. You're going to see him used by
Speaker 5: Washington on some trick plays, all right, Javon Baker.
Speaker 1: Right after the draft, when we looked at the Patriots draft,
Speaker 1: they took Jalen Polk in the second round and then
Speaker 1: they took Baker in the fourth round. And like the
Speaker 1: day after the draft, you're on this show saying I
Speaker 1: like Baker, yeah, more than I like Polk. You're happy
Speaker 1: to see land in this spot. And I think Drake
Speaker 1: May's gonna be great. Uh, talk to me about the
Speaker 1: kid from Central Florida via Alabama.
Speaker 5: I would pick him over Polk, And for me, it
Speaker 5: wouldn't be much of a you know thought there. I
Speaker 5: think Baker assents to the top of their wide receiver
Speaker 5: room very quickly. Speaking of good fits with with particular quarterbacks,
Speaker 5: the thing that Drake made is best at is flinging
Speaker 5: bombs down the field. Last year, Javon Baker was the
Speaker 5: only guy that was beneath Jermaine Burton and a dott
Speaker 5: seventeen point one, a dot h just assassin downfield at
Speaker 5: UCF was Javon Baker attacks the ball in the air,
Speaker 5: latches onto that thing. He can get jarred and he's
Speaker 5: still going to come down with the ball. Twenty of
Speaker 5: thirty six and contested scenarios the last two years for
Speaker 5: Burton or I'm sorry for Javon Baker. He's also very
Speaker 5: good after the catch, breaks tackles.
Speaker 4: He is elusive.
Speaker 5: The one thing he needs to clean up his concentration
Speaker 5: drops drops with a little over front. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: the one thing. But if he can clean those concentration
Speaker 5: drops up, and he has great hands, so it is
Speaker 5: this is a concentration issue. If he cleans that up,
Speaker 5: like I said, I think he has sends very quickly
Speaker 5: to the top of that depth Shart.
Speaker 1: All right, that's Javon Baker. You're deep sleeper at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Malik Davis from Virginia finds himself from Miami. Obviously that's
Speaker 1: a that's a pretty stacked depth chart. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean we don't like the kid. What do you what
Speaker 1: do you like about Milk Washington?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so with him, Miami of course has the awesome
Speaker 5: two receivers at the top, but they've been looking for
Speaker 5: ancillary receiving options when they have three wide receivers on
Speaker 5: the field. I think you were going to see Melik
Speaker 5: Washington in the slot last year in Virginia. He blew
Speaker 5: up doing that. Thirty five broken tackles for Malik Washington
Speaker 5: last year. That was five more than the next highest
Speaker 5: finisher in this class, which was a guy named Melik Neighbors.
Speaker 5: So Washington brings the ball in and then he has
Speaker 5: this short compact, just sort of muscle hamster type frame
Speaker 5: to him. He is not afraid to catch the ball
Speaker 5: middle of the field, has eighty nine percentile athleticism. But
Speaker 5: then he's got the acceleration and will run through arm tape,
Speaker 5: arm tackles, off angle attempts and stuff like that. Pile
Speaker 5: up the broken tackles.
Speaker 1: All right, that's Malik Washington. Now we go to tight end.
Speaker 1: There's a player that you talked about going into the draft.
Speaker 1: You and I talked about him right after the draft,
Speaker 1: and the landing spot is very encouraging. Iowa tight end
Speaker 1: Eric All, who finds himself in Cincinnati, and we.
Speaker 3: Love his quarterback.
Speaker 1: We love the fact that he might right now be
Speaker 1: the best tight end on roster and could start in
Speaker 1: very short order. Talk to me about Eric All, the
Speaker 1: kid he transferred from Michigan, went to Iowa for a.
Speaker 3: Year, so he got the Iowa tight.
Speaker 1: End treatment, if only for a year thor and now
Speaker 1: he's got this nice opportunity.
Speaker 5: I think he bypasses Mike Kiseki for t one the
Speaker 5: gig as a rookie. Eric All tremendous athlete. He has size,
Speaker 5: speed and feet. Wasn't able to test during the pre
Speaker 5: draft process because he tore his ACL at Iowa in October,
Speaker 5: but he would have been running in the high four
Speaker 5: fours or low four fives, which would have put him
Speaker 5: number two among testers at his position group. The thing
Speaker 5: you like about him is the ball skills in conjunction
Speaker 5: with that athleticism, and then he can end up running.
Speaker 5: He was destructive for Iowa when he was on the field.
Speaker 5: He was number one among all FBS tight ends in
Speaker 5: yards per route run prior to tearing that ECO. That
Speaker 5: was on that abomination of an Iowa passing offense, which
Speaker 5: I can say because I went to Iowa wasn't fun
Speaker 5: to watch. But All ended up leading the Hawkeys in
Speaker 5: receiving last year despite playing in less than half of
Speaker 5: the games. He has been the pass catching tight end
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow has been crying out for, and I think
Speaker 5: he's gonna be on the field and solidify that job.
Speaker 4: Carrie going forward in very short order.
Speaker 1: Eric Hall going off the board in Rookie Drafts, Rookie
Speaker 1: Dynasty Drafts, Pick forty seven.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's way too low for way too low, especially
Speaker 5: in a tight end class where there's just not many
Speaker 5: other guys like he is the guy who could.
Speaker 4: Blow up and become a star.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Flowers, Yeah, well not Bowers, but yes, after that,
Speaker 1: Bowers is in his own file.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then it really yeah, you know, we're talking
Speaker 5: about Senate and Eric all pretty much those are the
Speaker 5: two guys at Target.
Speaker 1: Great job, Thor, Thank you appreciate it. This has been
Speaker 1: a ton of fun. We love the deep sleepers. Some
Speaker 1: of these guys are gonna hit you'll. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've heard it here first, but you will have
Speaker 1: heard Thor bang in the drum for all of these guys.
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