WEBVTT - Puka v2 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:04.920 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.280 Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.319 source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.759 whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.520 here's your host, Paul Charchion. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.439 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm Paul Charchian, joining me 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.160 this week co host. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.520 Thor nystro Hey, buddy, it's time to talk rookies again. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:33.440 I can't wait. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.440 And we're so close to the season. Now you can 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:36.640 start to smell the tailgate. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.320 We're so close. Oh God, can't wait. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:41.960 We're just weeks away, like two and a half weeks 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:43.200 away from training camps. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.600 Oh, it's gonna be fantastic. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.400 And you and I have already tucked rookies more around 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.800 the draft, but it's time to circle back. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:51.080 Now. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.040 You've spent more time with these guys. I've spent more 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.040 time with them. We've had a chance to look at 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.560 guys in OTA's and mini camps, and we want to 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:00.400 talk about some. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.080 Of the deep sleepers. Right. We we know about the 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.880 obvious guys. We want to drill deeper. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.880 And you weren't yet on the show at this time 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:12.160 last year, Thor. But it had you been on this show, 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.800 you'd have been talking up pookin Akua, because when you 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.120 did get on the show. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.000 In August, you were talking to Pooka Nakula. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.400 Yes, yeah, banging the drum. We're gonna bang the drum 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.840 for some guys today. I can't promise that they'll become 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.480 Pooka Nakula, but they are guys that to be monitoring 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.240 that could fit, you know, yeah, jumping off really quickly. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.039 There almost can't be another Pookinakua. That's I mean, you 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:33.959 could go a lot, you go ten years and there's 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.920 just not another rookie fifth rounder who does what he 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.280 did last year for sure. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.760 And that's not your fault. That's just like the math. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.840 Yeah right, yeah, I mean like almost a once in 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.640 a lifetime think you're not going to get a Day 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.960 three guy shattering all the NFL records again as a rookie. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.640 But I think we got some guys in here we 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.800 can point people to where they can get really really 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.440 good values on them because they're being overlooked in fantasy 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.200 drafts right now. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.160 So going through your list of guys everybody were going 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.919 to talk about in rookie drafts are going at least 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.840 at eighty P eighteen or higher. Most of these guys 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.240 are going in the twenties and thirties or even forties 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.280 of rookie drafts. Rookie drafts correct, So these are all deep. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.400 These are deep, right, right, So we're not expecting every 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.520 one of these guys to hit. And also, these guys 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.600 all have warts, right, I mean, if they didn't have 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.560 any warts, they wouldn't be at you know, eighty, you know, 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.520 the rookie ADP wouldn't be thirty five thou right, So 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.400 you know, keep it, you know, keep that in mind 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.560 as we're talking through this. We'll we'll talk about some 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.720 of the good and bad for all of these guys, 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.440 and we'll do it by position or let's beget a quarterback. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.960 It goes without saying for anybody who allowed here for 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.520 the last year, JJ McCarthy his rookie ADP is eighteen. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.760 So this is the most highly ranked of anybody we're 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.080 gonna talk about in this set. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.160 The only first round that we're going to. But of course, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:54.600 you know, again I had to sneak the man, you. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.760 Know, any chance to talk about jjmrect But let me 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.919 set the Let me set the table this way. Almost 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.359 everything we're hearing out of the Vikings from both externally 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.000 that they're saying openly to the media and everything i'm 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.840 hearing back channel, everything that is being discussed in the media. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.600 They all say the Vikings are going to take their 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.440 time on JJ McCarthy. And there's a very real scenario 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.160 where Sam Darnold, now surrounded by the best talent of 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.840 his life, has a long runway here. So talk to 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.200 me about what you if a do you disagree with 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:28.919 any of that, because you're welcome to and there could 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:30.119 be a lot of smoke screen here and it could 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:31.800 be the JJ McCarthy just too good to leave on 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.440 the bench. What how if you were to if I 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.160 were to put a weak number on when JJ McCarthy 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.200 starts this year, if at all, what do you. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.360 Think before the midway point of the season. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.960 Okay, they got a buy in week six, I'll mention that. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.680 But I think it could be right around then. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.600 Okay, that's where I put it on your good you know, 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.520 And they're the way that they're conveying this to the 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.640 public gets the right way. You're being deferential to a veteran, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.480 but also a veteran who is literal real life friends 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.360 with the quarterback coach is very they played together with 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.160 the Jets, very friendly with the head coach, and they 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.560 brought him in. You know, they sold him on this idea, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.320 Darnold I'm talking about of you know, revitalizing his career, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.680 et cetera. I would expect him to get that first opportunity, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.080 but I don't think it's the lock that other people 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.039 do that McCarthy doesn't. You know, either start week one 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.480 or shortly thereafter, you need to get the if you're 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.560 the Vikings, you need to get the referendum on JJ 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.400 McCarthy this coming season. You need to know if he's 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.520 the answer for a year two. So he going to 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.760 be starting for at least half that season. I think 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.840 a little bit more than that, and I think that 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.520 they're going to give him at least a shot in 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:38.160 camp right now. They're modulating his footwork into longer throws 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.159 and then the throws down the sideline. Something we talked 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.880 about during the pre draft process about how JJ loves 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.360 to come over the top with that exaggerated lead step. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.320 The kids got a bazooka, but a lot of the 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.520 throws they're bullet type throws like that down when you're 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.800 going down the field, you want to deduct some of 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.200 the velocity for trajectory, arch, touch, et cetera. That's what 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.760 they're working on him with right now. How quickly will 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.480 that take? Will that take by mid August late August 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.400 to give him a shot early in the season to 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.320 potentially see the field or do they want to go 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.080 a little bit slower. But either way, I think we're 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.360 gonna see JJ out there quick. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.880 Viking schedule is opening schedule before that Week six spy, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.680 It's it's pretty darn tough and that could factor into this. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:24.280 If the Vikings are looking at one in five rolling 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.120 into that buy, that might. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:27.880 Be it, right. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.960 I think that would be it, yeah, for sure. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.240 And with McCarthy, we talked about this around the draft 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.160 of you have the best supporting cast of certainly any 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.800 quarterback that got taken in this class. Some people think 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.919 it's the best of the past twenty five years of 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.280 a first round rookie going in there. You have that, 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.320 but with McCarthy you have the arm town as well. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.720 But I think the fantasy community is sleeping on the 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.160 athleticism and the amount of value they could get from 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.600 his legs. Sixth fastest three cone regardless of position at 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.760 the NFL. Combine also ran a four four eight forty 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.080 at Michigan. He would have run in the four fourth 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.320 had he run he did run during the pre draft process. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.279 Didn't need to go in the top ten. But those 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.240 legs will add value as well at the next level. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.680 And that's something nobody's really talking about, is JJ McCarthy 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.640 is somebody that's gonna chip in twenty five thirty forty 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.280 rushing yards per game, and that is that is possible 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.440 for him. Kevin O'Connell doesn't have a history of calling 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.800 designed quarterback runs and he obviously with Kirk Cousins you 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.880 wouldn't do that, But weirdly, he also didn't do it 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.880 with Josh Dobbs and that was like the only thing 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.880 Josh Jobs could do was run, and O'Connell still. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:28.280 Didn't do it. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.800 So you know, I don't know where the running is 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.480 going to settle in, but McCarthy's got. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:33.360 The ability to do that. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.119 Let me just mention the Vikings opening schedule here before 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.680 the buye. They're a pick them against the Giants in 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.760 Week one, and then it's all bad, bad news after 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:46.320 that Niners. Week two Texans. I've got the Texans, as 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.360 my AFC Super Bowl team tells you how I feel 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:52.280 about them. Then they go at lambeau Field. Then they've 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.720 got the Jets and the best maybe the best defense 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.000 in the league, and then they go into their by. 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.520 So if you know, even if they win that game 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.680 against the Giants, the probability in the betting line would 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.839 suggest this team's rolling into their Week six by at 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:06.520 one and four. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.239 I think it would be JJ time at that point. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.080 And I totally agree with that breakdown as well. Also, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.360 you know what I mean, the kid just turned twenty one. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.960 He was twenty win Michigan won the national title. There's 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.120 no reason to rush this and and I don't think 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.600 the Vikings will. But I again like, I think he's 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.720 going to be prove himself to be a better quarterback 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:24.600 than Darnold. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.920 In short order, give me the deep dynasty pick that 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.080 you've got a quarterback. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:29.640 Yeah. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.240 So we this year in the draft, we had of course, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.720 as everyone knows, we had the sixth goal right away, 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.720 but then after that, after the sixth Bonnecks was taken, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.760 we didn't have another run. End of the first round, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.320 second round, third round, four or fourth round half. 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:43.800 So there was this enormous weight. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.800 Once we got to the fifth round, the New Orleans 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.360 Saints end up taking Spencer Rattler for dynasty owners, That's 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.360 a guy that I would monitor. He's only behind car 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.720 right now. And then nominally Jay Cayner. Spencer Ratler is 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.360 a better quarterback than Jay Cayner. Spencer Ratler people might forget. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.760 He was the top quarterback in his recruiting class coming 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.360 out and the first hand picked high school quarterback that 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.880 it ever started for Lincoln Riley. As a red shirt 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.880 freshman at Oklahoma, Spencer Rattler was absolutely incredible. People were 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.000 putting him as like the two early mocks, as the 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.400 number one pick in the draft. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.040 The next year was when Kayleb Williams gets the town 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.840 and the whole thing got blown up. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.000 Then Spencer Ratler transfers to South Carolina, where they had 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.640 one of the worst pass blocking offensive lines in the 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:26.280 entire country. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:26.920 It was unreal. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.440 I was trying to evaluate Spencer Rattler for the draft 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.520 thor you can't find a clean pocket for him to 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.680 just set up, And I'm just asking myself, what does 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.839 Spencer Ratler do in a clean pocket. When he's setting 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.880 up and he's throwing more than three yards downfield and 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:39.360 there's like. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.840 No plays like that, the guy was just getting. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.160 Murdered back there thousand percent. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.080 Last time we saw it was during that red shirt 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.560 freshman year in twenty twenty at Oklahoma. He was number four. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.559 Spencer Ratler was in the nation that year with a 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.040 ninety two point five PFF grade, which is sick led 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.720 the FBS and PFF big time throws under pressure and 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.560 passing grade out of structure. That gets back to what 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:04.160 hisar Rattler is similar ish in this regard to Bryce Young, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.000 a guy who likes the field spread back in shotgun 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.040 so he can see the whole thing, and then he 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.080 likes to maneuver around to buy a little time, change 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.600 the launch angles and stuff like that. When you're moving around, 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.720 but you have a terrible sieve of an offensive line 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.480 that is immediately allowing pressure, your game is going to create, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.440 which it did for Ratler at the beginning of twenty 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.719 twenty two. He figured it out the last three or 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.679 four games of that season, ripped up Clemson, ripped up 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:33.040 Notre Dame. He just had a great Tennessee great under 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.320 the season, and then this year the offensive line is 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.679 still stunk. Most of their guys had transferred out, Marshawn 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.200 Lloyd had transferred out. They guys go to the NFL. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.880 Juice Wells gets hurt. He only had Xavier Legett there. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.319 It was Xavier Lagat and pray for rain At helth Carolina. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.600 But he played a lot better this year and going 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.960 to the NFL, he's finally going to be playing behind 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.600 a competent offensive line. I think that's where you could 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:59.040 see Spencer Ratler's pocket passing talent start to coalesce again. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.600 All right, so he's he's only behind Derek Carr with 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.880 the Saints. It's not, you know, Derek carrs doesn't exactly 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.880 electrify anybody, you know. I would it surprise me if 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.080 Spencer Rattler is the starter next year. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.120 No, No, not at all. And you think about this 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:15.880 coming season. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.720 If Rattler indeed does beat out Jake Canner, which I 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.440 think is well with likely Yeah, and then the Saints 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.440 have a disappointing season, you might want to be getting 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.120 a look there at Ratler at the end of the season, 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.000 even if car doesn't end up getting hurt. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.080 All right, we'll have to move a little more quickly 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.679 through the rest of our list, but let's go to 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:32.400 running backs. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:33.680 Marshawn Lloyd. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.520 If slots into Green Bay, obviously he's gonna He's got 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.640 a battle for time with Josh Jacobs. He's the USC 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.760 kid via South Carolina. As you mentioned, strong, a little 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.120 on the short side, but he runs upright, making him, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.520 I think, feel taller than he actually measured at the combine. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.079 I worry a little bit about. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.640 Whether or not he's got NFL speed, but I like 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.160 the power side of Marshawn Lloyd's game. Talk to me 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.760 a little bit about him and why you think he's 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.160 a good sleeper candidate. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.679 When he first got taken by the Packers, I hated 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.240 the landing spot, of course, and it sort of threw 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.240 some cold water on it for me, even though I 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.640 love the prospect. But thinking about it more and then 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.840 hearing from people around the Packers, I think Lloyd is 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:18.280 going to be nipping at Jacobs's heels real quick. Jacob's 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.040 contract so he got four years, forty eight million dollars. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.720 What it actually is is a two year, twenty three 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.000 point six million. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.040 Dollars, but that's still good running back money. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.560 Still solid running back money. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.080 But the Packers are going to be out of that 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.320 thing after next season, after the twenty twenty five season, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.360 and you talk about not having incentive. Potentially you play 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.240 the better running back who is younger, if you know 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.480 you're gonna cut Jacobs the end of that year, that's 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.000 where I think for sure Lloyd ends up bypassing him. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.680 I love Lloyd's talent. Jacobs last year, the way that 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.920 he looked out there coming off that three hundred plus 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.000 touch season that he'd had the year before. We have 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.120 numbers on this going back years and years and years, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.480 and Jacobs appeared to depreciate a little bit. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.160 Yeah, last year, he didn't looked like the prior guy. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.680 We may find out that he was playing her or whatever, 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.760 or just the totality of the Adrian O'Connell offense was 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.920 not good and we had you know, there was even 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.120 worse quarterbacking than that at various times throughout the year 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:13.840 for Josh Jacobs. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.600 So you can make an excuse. Can you can think that. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.080 Josh Jacobs has the right to get better on a 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.480 way better offense, And I think that's probably the case, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.280 but maybe again a little bit like Spencer Rallert next year, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:26.040 who's your starter? 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.720 That's it for Dynasty guys in particular, especially because Lloyd 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.280 is going at a discomb because of that situation. Right, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.040 but AJ Dillon can be cut at any time, was. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.160 Given very I don't know. 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:37.880 I don't even think. Yeah, I think he could. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.160 Cut this preseason, absolutely yeah, with no pain for the Packers. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.880 So you can already consider Lloyd RB two with a 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.320 bullet And again, Jacob's only on that two year deal. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.480 Other thing I'd say is I think Lloyd is a 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.040 better early down runner than Josh Jacobs. I think we're Jacobs. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.000 It could become some sort of a time split distribution, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.600 with Lloyd getting a lot more of those early down 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.320 type lie around the goal line, short yardage, et cetera. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.559 Initially at Jacobs of course is gonna be on the 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.400 field for all the passing downs. He skilled it that, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.079 but that's something to keep an eye on as a 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:08.560 rookie as well. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.040 All right, let's go to Kamani Videll. He lands at 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.320 the Chargers intriguing spot. This is the kid from Troy. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.280 Not many of us were watching Troy football, but they 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.040 brought in Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins, who who followed 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.920 Greg Roman from Baltimore over here. Roman, you know, had 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.040 been the long time offensive coordinated there prior. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.200 To last year. He's an interesting guy. I like to burst. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.920 He's a good three down back. He's got better hands 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.000 than any other back on the Chargers roster, and he's 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.920 a good pass protector. Bidell could end up being for 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.599 a factor in the passing. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.760 Game like Week one. He could be somebody who gets 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:46.720 on the field. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:50.680 That way one thousand percent. Jim Harbaugh, everybody knows his offense. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.440 The ethos is you run on the early downs and 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.800 then on third down either you have to get the 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.840 conversions you mentioned. Vedell was the best pass blocking back 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.000 in this class, so that is the passing down stuff. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.640 I do think he's going to be on the field 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.640 on passing downs as a rookie. I also think he 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.440 has a decent shot to upset the two veterans ahead 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.360 of them, who also are not being given much. That 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.320 Chargers don't have a lot invested in those guys, Vdell. 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.560 What happened with the Chargers, They were certainly monitoring Blake 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.120 Korum during the draft ends up getting taken by the 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.360 other Los Angeles team across town. Vedell is about as 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.480 close as an animal gam for quorum as you could get. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.800 They're about in the same physical package, but Vedell is 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.320 more athletic, was a ninetieth percentile athlete during the pre 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.240 draft process, also finished number two last season in the 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.880 NCAA and broken tackles, broken tackles. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:42.240 Force excuse me. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.760 He is very, very tough to square up, and he 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:49.280 runs like a bullet. It's just straightforward, hard charging. He 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.320 packs a lot more power into that condensed bowling ball frame. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.920 I think then it sort of sneaks up on defenders. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.760 I loved both Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins prior to 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.320 their ACLS. They both, to me looked really, really good, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.040 and it's it's really sad that the ACLS appeared to 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.640 have sapped the careers out of both of those guys. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.920 Yes, but you know, but that's the nature of this game. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.360 And Videl's got a chance to make an impact and 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.800 pass those guys on the depth chart, perhaps as early 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.680 again as week one. Absolutely, let's go to audric estime. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.040 He lands in Denver, a spot I do not like 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:26.000 in this and what we're gonna end up talking about. Unfortunately, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.040 because I'm a big Julia McLoughlin guy, I love him 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.320 and so I really I don't want to hear about 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.480 how great estimate is that he may end up passing 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.760 Jaliel because that's kind of my that's kind of my guy. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.960 But let's talk about the Notre Dame back. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.680 Yeah, someone who doesn't like someone a Broncos running back 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.479 as Sean Payton doesn't appear to like Javonte Williams. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.160 And I didn't either. I thought he was bad last year. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.760 So Jalil certainly is going to be on the field, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.600 but he can't be on the field always, right. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.280 There's size limitations. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.560 Right there, and they're not a workhorse back. There's certain 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.400 things that are outside of his skill set as well. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.360 Odric Estimate is not competing against Jalio. He is coming 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.880 against Javonte Walliams. That that is a guy that he 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.000 can beat, and then if that ends up happening, you 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.520 get some of the early downlooks, certainly the short yarded 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.440 stuff end around the goal line. Estimate is a sledgehammer 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.040 of a running back. Is six feet tall, two hundred 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.840 and twenty one pounds, runs with a ton of oomf 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.440 and power runs over guys. And he was only twenty 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.480 years old when he got drafted. These the one thing 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.240 he lacks, it's the long speed. You know, around four 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.280 to seven or high four to six is type speed. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.880 But what he can do again is grind out those 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.400 yards every single time. It's like a Lee Ray Horde thing. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.000 You need one year to get you three years. You 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.440 need five yards to get you three years. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.080 That is utteric esime in the NFL. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.920 All right, let's go to Tyrone Tracy, who lands in 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.760 a good spot with the Giants. Really not a lot 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.560 of competition there. Singletary's there is the presumed starter. The 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.760 Purdue kid is a converted wide receiver. He's a kick returner. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.040 He's got this long, loping stride that you don't normally 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.960 see in running backs. And I don't love that part. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.200 And he's got that slight build. But man, you get 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.640 him an open space and he looks really good. Well, 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.040 everybody looks good and open space, But tell me your 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.480 thoughts on Tyrone Tracy here. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.720 Well, when he gets out into that open space, he 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.680 had the ninety eight percentile. He's got all the wheels 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.600 in the world four four eight during the pre draft process. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.359 The other thing with him, he had more feel for 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.240 running than I would certainly have given him credit for 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.200 or thought was possible after he had converted to running 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.040 back after unfortunately playing four years at receiver at the 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.840 University of Iowa, which. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.040 Doesn't give you a lot of volume. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.840 No, and he was obviously frustrated by both you know, 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.560 the amount of targets he was getting and then also 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.840 the development he was getting there. But he found his 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.840