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Speaker 1: Welcome into the very first episode of Inside American Soccer,

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Speaker 1: a podcast where we dive into all things US men's

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Speaker 2: To the twenty twenty six World Cup and beyond.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Bogert, and I'm joined by my

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Speaker 1: Now top, we are extremely excited to start the show.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I think what's really important about

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Speaker 1: has been issues there in the past, and unfortunately it

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Speaker 1: is part of his story, but he played really.

436
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Speaker 2: Well against Paraguay.

437
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know he's never gonna be he's never gonna

438
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: press like Brendan Aronson, but he's also gonna do things

439
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: that only really Christian pools that can do. In this pool,

440
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: he's a special player and we all hope that he

441
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Speaker 1: stays healthy and everything goes according to plan. So I

442
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: thought this was a really impressive window for Gioranna, who

443
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: then comes off the bench against Uruguay and assist.

444
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 3: It's likely that that's the one that's the one player

445
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 3: that made the most progress. Obviously we'd have to talk

446
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 3: about Freeman as well, but I think when we talk

447
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: about Gurina because we didn't expect anything.

448
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 4: I mean, he hasn't played games, you know, and so

449
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 4: havn't said that.

450
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Speaker 3: I would agree with you that he and Polistic are

451
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 3: the ones that can actually make plays in those very

452
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: difficult pockets in between the defensive midfielders and the back line.

453
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Speaker 3: And so gior Arena I think, for me has likely

454
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Speaker 3: locked a spot for the World Cup, just because I

455
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Speaker 3: don't feel that gi Arena is or will be a

456
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Speaker 3: ninety minute player by the World Cup, at least as

457
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Speaker 3: long as he doesn't play for his club. I mean

458
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Speaker 3: you you have to think he's twenty three years old.

459
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't really played ninety minute games in years three

460
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,239
Speaker 3: four years, right, And you would want a twenty three

461
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 3: year old to be playing thirty forty to fifty games

462
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Speaker 3: in a year that are ninety minute games in order

463
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Speaker 3: to be prepared.

464
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Speaker 4: Havn't said that.

465
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Speaker 3: I think if I'm a coach, and if I'm coaching

466
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 3: this team, I would love to look down the bench

467
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: and see a solution there, and and Gio Reina is

468
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: certainly a solution. You know, if there's fifteen twenty minutes

469
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: left in a game, you know he can come in

470
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: and change the game. And that's something that I think

471
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 3: it's important for a twenty six man roster.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree it's gonna be. It would be

473
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Speaker 1: really really difficult to leave him off if he's healthy.

474
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: And again, neither that has been a very, very big gift.

475
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Speaker 1: He hasn't played more than six hundred and ten minutes

476
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: in a club season since twenty twenty twenty twenty one,

477
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: so he's really struggled with injuries. A bad decision to

478
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: go on loan to Nottingham Forest didn't quite get back

479
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: in adortmun But again, we all know how talented he

480
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: is and how good he can be, and like you said,

481
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: tap finding a solution on the bench not a bad

482
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Speaker 1: spot to be in. Again, I don't want to hark

483
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: on the negatives, but like the he almost got voted out,

484
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: like the squad almost voted him out of the World

485
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: Cup in twenty twenty two, that tent came from, hey,

486
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: you're not going to be a starter. So that he's

487
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: matured since then, and I hope that that he kind

488
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: of will whether or not he is or isn't a

489
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: starter as long as as Pochettino has that kind of

490
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: man management under his arm, and everything that we've seen

491
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: with Rica, Pochettino would suggest that he can. And once

492
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: again Giorana has matured since that workup, but it is

493
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Speaker 1: something to monitor. But first and foremost it is his

494
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: health and we do hope that he plays a ton

495
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: of minutes, as many minutes as he can. Another player

496
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Speaker 1: who I think really helped the case for the World

497
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Cup set Burhalter. If for nothing else, his set piece

498
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: delivery is elite and that matters a lot in knockout tournaments.

499
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: But also he's just a good player. He can fit

500
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: a couple of different roles. He's somebody that you could

501
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: bring on if you're losing and you're chasing, because of

502
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: that Set beats livery he has ended his motor. And

503
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: if you're winning and you need to see out a result,

504
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: he's a dog. So I really thought Set bur Alter

505
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: proved well in a really really competitive midfield group.

506
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

507
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: I mean, if there if there's one thing about Burholters,

508
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: he's got the fight right to start with, and that's

509
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 3: the easy part for him, and that's nice to see it.

510
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: And on top of it, he's a good player. Uh

511
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: he's a you know, he's a coach's son, so you

512
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: know he understands the game.

513
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 4: He reads the game well.

514
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: I think the tough part about Burholter is that that

515
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: central midfield is so crowded. You know when you look

516
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: at you you have Adams, you have Tilman, you have McKinney.

517
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: You know, you have potentially even Cardozo coming back. You know,

518
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: you like, there's so many names.

519
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: You know.

520
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: I I don't want to count Musa out yet because

521
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: I think he's been played on on the on, you know,

522
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: on the outside, when really he's more of a central player.

523
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: And and the reason I don't count him out is

524
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: because we we were counting Geo out for not playing

525
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: and he came back and here he is now. If

526
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: we think he's on, he's on the team now. So

527
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: I don't count him out either. So but the point is,

528
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 3: you still have Rolled down, you still have Morris. There's

529
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: so many players, it's it's a very crowded midfield. And

530
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 3: can you justify, you know, starting a midfielder just because

531
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: he he has good certain up And I don't want

532
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: to say just because there's no question he's a great player,

533
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: but I think is that what tips the scale? Is

534
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: it that he can serve a good ball? And I'm

535
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: not sure that's gonna be enough. But having said that,

536
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: he had a great window, he couldn't have done better.

537
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would add too that with how competitive that

538
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: midfield group is, if Berholton doesn't play well this camp,

539
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy to kind of write him

540
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Speaker 1: off and be like, Okay, we're gonna give more looks

541
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: to Morris and Testament and rolled on and again. Maybe

542
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: Moosa works his way back, McKenny, maybe he'll be back

543
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: in the next camp in March, and we'll see all

544
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: that all the belt, it would have been easy to say, Okay,

545
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: well we gave him a chance and he didn't really

546
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: do a ton against two really good teams, and again

547
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: I thought he was he was really solid. Last one

548
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: on the big winner side is Alex Freeman. I think

549
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: that I overlooked him for this, not because he wasn't awesome,

550
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 1: but because I kind of feel like he's already got

551
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: to see on the plane. I know that we just

552
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: spoke the entire show about nobody. Nobody, spot is guaranteed,

553
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But Alex Freeman has been a shooting

554
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: star over the last year for this team for Orlando

555
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: City and scores twice against Uruguay, one of which he

556
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: put Ronald Rajo FC Barcelona center back put him on

557
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: skates and put the ball in the corner.

558
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: You wouldn't know that was a right.

559
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: Back, No.

560
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 3: I thought it was Doku coming inside and he looked

561
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: just like him. And by the way, I know that

562
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: it was after a free kick, but I think it

563
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: was following a corner or some sort of set piece,

564
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: because otherwise, how do you end up with your center

565
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: back basically on the left wing dribbling inside onto his

566
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: right foot so, but I think that shows the freedom

567
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: right that Poschettino's given the players, because normally, after a

568
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: set piece, if you're a center back, you're like, okay,

569
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: I better run straight back right or at least stay

570
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 3: in the middle, stay in the box.

571
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: So that was good to see.

572
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: But look, there's no question I think before this camp

573
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 3: started Freeman was on the plane to go to the

574
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Speaker 3: World Cup.

575
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: He didn't really need fit. I feel he didn't really.

576
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: Need this these two games to get to go to

577
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: the World Cup. He needed to just do what he

578
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: was doing before, and he just took it to the

579
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: next level. I mean, the kid is what twenty twenty

580
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 3: one years old, He's got interest from the teams in Europe.

581
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 3: I think, if anything, Alex Freeman put himself in a

582
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: spot where Pochettino now has to think that is this

583
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: my starting eleven guy? Because you really have to think

584
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: about that.

585
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: I would agree, And we'll hear more about Alex Freeman's

586
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: future in the inside the Notebook in our next segment

587
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: onto the guys who maybe didn't quite help themselves enough,

588
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: maybe hurt a little bit in terms of this again

589
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: wide open and competitive roster fighting for those spots in

590
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: the plane to the World Cup or maybe a bus.

591
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: Now everybody would have to have to take a plane.

592
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: We have a big country. So the first one that

593
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: I think Joe Scalley. I don't think he was necessarily

594
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: bad against Paraguay, but the goal ends up going over

595
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: his head. He's a really good fit for that right

596
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: center back, in the back three or the fluid free

597
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: to four. I just was hoping to see a little

598
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: bit more from him though, though I do hope that

599
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: he'll get another call in the in the build up

600
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: to the World Cup, but I don't While we're talking

601
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: about Freeman taking his chance pretty much every camp he's

602
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: been in, I can't say the same about Scali this month.

603
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that, and I, by the way,

604
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone did poorly in this camp, you know,

605
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: I mean right, all the players played.

606
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: It was hard. It was hard coming up the three here,

607
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: both hard.

608
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: Both both games. Players played well, but we can certainly

609
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 3: say that some didn't help themselves. And and maybe Scali,

610
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: like you say, didn't take it to the next level,

611
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: didn't become one that's going to be fighting for a

612
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: starting eleven spot. Maybe, But I think in that game

613
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: against Paraguay, he did well. I mean there were quite

614
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: a few times in which he overlapped Sergenio Desk on

615
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: the right side and got all the way down the line.

616
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: So which shows again the freedom that Puschetino has given

617
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: his players and and at the same time the initiative

618
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: that that Scally takes when he has the.

619
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: Ball, that he's not afraid to go forward.

620
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, as a coach, that's something

621
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: that you valued tremendously, in particular in important games when

622
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: when the plays you make matter. So I don't think

623
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: I don't think Scally hurt himself. I think, you know,

624
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: it was nice to see him back. I think we

625
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: had all heard about potentially some issues, some issues off

626
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: the field. Let's say that that sometimes as outsiders, let's

627
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: say we don't necessarily know all of them, and and

628
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: nor should we. But the fact is he's back in

629
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: the picture now, and I think he'll be fighting all

630
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: the way to the end.

631
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: I agree.

632
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: Another I think group of players that didn't help themselves

633
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: because they didn't really have the chance to is every

634
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: goalkeeper that is not named Matt Freeze. Matt Freeze has

635
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: now started each of the last twelve usmn T games.

636
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: We talk about how much rotation there is, how much,

637
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: how many opportunities are given to a lot of players,

638
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: how much Poachatino wants to see different compinations of players. Well,

639
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: once he clearly doesn't want to see combinations of players,

640
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: is that it is in in between.

641
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: The net is in the net.

642
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: Matt Freeze again starting twelve of those he started, uh,

643
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: I think thirteen in the last fourteen. The only game

644
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't started since the Nations League was the four

645
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: nill loss of Switzerland. So the very worst game was

646
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: the only one that he happened to not be playing.

647
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: And he's been I think solid. And Matt Turner wasn't

648
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: even called in this window. Again, the other goalkeepers on

649
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: the roster that that included Jonathan Clint's been Roman Cell

650
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: and Donald Patrick Schulty. I just think that over those

651
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: three guys, Matt Freeze is just heading shoulders to start.

652
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's been showing that and I and

653
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: I think Pushattino is one that listens to his UH

654
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: to his goalkeeper coach as well. You know, Tony Jimenez,

655
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: the goalkeeper coach, was my former teammate in Spain and

656
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: a great goalkeeper by the way, with a lot of

657
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: attitude and goal. Yeah, I think I think at this time,

658
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: you know, it's clear that Puschettino is not going to

659
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: be making any change, is there. I think Matt Freeze

660
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: has done well enough to keep the position, and the

661
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: fact that no one is really pushing them hard makes

662
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 3: it a lot easier, right because if we look at

663
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: the goal against Uruguay, he looked a little bit shaky

664
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: when he came out, you know, and kind of left

665
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: you know, the defenders stranded there with the goal open.

666
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure.

667
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: Again, you know, I'm not an expert on goalkeeping, so

668
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: sometimes that's a good thing. I'd you know, if I

669
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: were the coach of the team, I'd have to ask

670
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: the goalkeeper, coach, is what he did bad there?

671
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: Or is it good? You know, it looked bad to me.

672
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: It looked bad to me as not an expert goalkeeper.

673
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: But sometimes a goalkeeper coach will give you the answer that, well,

674
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: he had to come out in delay so that the

675
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: player had to take an extra touch so that we

676
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: could get everybody back, So, you know, so I'll give

677
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: him the benefit of the down on that one. But

678
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: there's no question that if there's one clear position on

679
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: this team right now, that's Freeze's position and goal.

680
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: Last one in that really really competitive midfield group, maybe

681
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Aiden Morris, maybe Brendan Ronson. Again, I don't think that

682
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: they play poorly, but didn't quite separate themselves the way

683
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: that Giorana s At, bur Halter and the others did

684
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: this window.

685
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: What do you think?

686
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm a big fan of Aiden Morris.

687
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: You know, he's he's a great player, both two way player,

688
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: you know, playing in Middlesbrough, the way he plays weeke

689
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: in and week out. I mean, he's just a great player.

690
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: Would be it would really be a shame that he

691
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: doesn't make the team. But unfortunately, I think not his

692
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: own doing, because I think he played a good game yesterday.

693
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: I just think Burholter did better and potentially surpassed him. Right,

694
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: And so there's only so many spots you have, and

695
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure Pochatino's making a list, and when you make

696
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: that list, you know, maybe you take five and maybe

697
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: you're fighting for that fifth spot and somebody else took it, right,

698
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: And so I think that's one that unfortunately this camp

699
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: didn't work out for Aiden Morris, and I think Aaronson

700
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: that's a really interesting one because I think he also

701
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: didn't play a bad game against Paraguay.

702
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: I think, but again, you know, same thing.

703
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: I would say about g O Raina, where you know,

704
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: I think Aaronson is not going to be a starter

705
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: at the World Cup, right as I think Geo is

706
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: likely not going to be. But again, when if I'm

707
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: the coach and I'm looking down the bench, we all

708
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: know what we get out of Aaronson, and he's a

709
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: maximum effort guy. I would always want.

710
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: Him on my team.

711
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: He's a player that I think every coach wants because

712
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: and in particular, if you're gonna high press, right, he

713
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: he high presses like he gives you everything, So you

714
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: always want him. But in the end, if you're looking

715
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: for a player to win a game with fifteen minutes left,

716
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: I think we have other options that are better at

717
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: this point. And unfortunately, you know when you look at

718
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: down the bench and you're seeing maybe Geo or you're

719
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: seeing Luna, or you're seeing guys that potentially can turn

720
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: a game upside down and probably want that. And so

721
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: because of that, I would say that this was not

722
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: a great camp for Aronson.

723
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Speaker 1: So speaking of that, starting eleven, we're gonna do that

724
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: most weeks, if not a whole lot between now and

725
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: the opening game of the twenty twenty six World Cup.

726
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: If the World Cup started today, assuming most of these

727
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: players are fit and healthy, wod are starting elevens me,

728
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I'll go first so that I don't embarrass myself and

729
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: I don't have to pretend like telling Tab that he's wrong.

730
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: It should be you telling me where I'm an idiot here.

731
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: So I'll go first, freesome goal and I have this

732
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: as the three four to two one. I think that

733
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: should be the formation that they play every game from

734
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: now and so when they get eliminated from the World Cup.

735
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Miles Robinson, Chris Richards, tim Reem has the back three.

736
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: Tim Wayer right wing back winger Tyler Adams, Tannor Tasman

737
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: went back.

738
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: And forth on who should be the partner.

739
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: Adams and then Anthony Robinson is just still a slight

740
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: over Max Arsen, though I think Max Arson is a

741
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: better fit for that left wing back role because of

742
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: the way he can eliminate guys off the dribble, whereas

743
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Robinson is really really good. His strength is more

744
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: of the overlapping runs and maybe that becomes predictable, but

745
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: for now, Anthony Robinson is there. And then the two

746
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: underneath the forward as Christian Pool is sick, and I

747
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: want Malik Tillman because I think that the two of

748
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: them have a good connection, and again they can do

749
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: a lot of They can both do things like the

750
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: number ten, but also a little bit like a winger,

751
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: a little bit like a second forward. I think they

752
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: compliment each other well. And then flow a baligan up top.

753
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, I can't I can't argue much with

754
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: that one. But I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go a

755
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: little bit different, and I think we have a.

756
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Couple same same formation.

757
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we have to go same formation, I think

758
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: because it looks like this is what fits his best.

759
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: I don't think, you know, if you're looking at our

760
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: team and you've seen what's happened over the last couple

761
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: of years, I don't think we can be confident to

762
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 3: play with two center backs only.

763
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: I just don't.

764
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 3: I just don't trust two together. I think with three

765
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: we do much better. And I would go with certainly

766
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: with freeze and goal because he's at this point, it

767
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: is his position to lose. I would go after this camp,

768
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: I would go with Freeman. I'm projecting Freeman to be

769
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 3: even better six months from now, and I think I'll

770
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: take Freeman as one of the three center backs, with

771
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: Richards in the middle, McKenzie.

772
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: On the left side.

773
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: On the wide let's say outside backs or overlapping backs,

774
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: I'll take dest on one side and Jedi Robinson on

775
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: the other side. I'm hoping that Jedi starts to get

776
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: back on the field more you know ed Fulham, and

777
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: that he's consistent by then we can't forget that Jedi,

778
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 3: I think to me has been our best player over

779
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: the last.

780
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: Five or six years.

781
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: Consistently, last five or six years, I would think he's

782
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: been our best player, and I think he gave us

783
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: a lot, and I'm hoping that.

784
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 4: He can get back to that level.

785
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: If he does, that's gonna be something else on that side,

786
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: especially knowing that he's got cover in the back the

787
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: center of the field. Here's where it will depend on

788
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: what Pushatino wants to do. If Pushatino is thinking that

789
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: you know mckinnys, maybe he plays McKinny as almost like

790
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: that second ten as he's done, you know, like maybe

791
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 3: top of a triangle kind of thing. I'm not sure,

792
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna have to go with definitely Adams being one,

793
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: and then a tough decision on whether McKinney plays that

794
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: defensive role, which I think he certainly can do, or

795
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: you want somebody like I think Testament there because Testament

796
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: has better fee. Testament has better fee, so Testament I

797
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: think could do a good job. So one of those

798
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: two there and then the two behind the forward I'd

799
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: have to go also with Tillman and Polisic, but I

800
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: would think that, you know, depending on the opponent, because

801
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Weya there instead of Tillman because

802
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: I think what Weya has a little bit more goal

803
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: in him and has a little bit more of the

804
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: running behind the defense, And so one of those two

805
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 3: would be there. Polistic would be the other one. Without question.

806
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: Balligan is the nine.

807
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he scored I believe four straight starts.

808
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: It was at least three, So it was another good

809
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: window for him, and I just think that he's currently

810
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: the best forward.

811
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: Though, how'd you right?

812
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: Wasn't great against the require didn't make an impact, I

813
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: should say he's somebody. He's doing so so well with

814
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: Coventry City. It feels like we've gotten answers or at

815
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: least possible answers to a lot of the questions that

816
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: were lingering in the summer. And things look pretty bleak

817
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: then not gonna lie. So that's a positive development. We're

818
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: gonna take another quick break here. The next up, Tab's

819
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna tell us the story of his connection with Tanner

820
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: Testament and how he brought him into the national team.

821
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Poll plus, we're gonna go inside and open what's time

822
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: to go inside the locker room where Tap tells a

823
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: story from his playing our coaching days and today he's

824
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: got a good story now he brought Tannered Testament into

825
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: the national team full Tap taking away.

826
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, that puts a lot of pressure that I

827
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: have to be able to tell a good story. You know,

828
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: when you're when you're a national team coacher, constantly in

829
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: contact with all the clubs, you know, speaking with coaches,

830
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: speaking in particular, when it's youth national teams you're speaking with,

831
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: you know, their academy coaches are their second the reserve

832
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: team coaches in this case MLS, next pro coaches and

833
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: sometimes you're speaking with the first team coaches because the

834
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: players are now getting opportunities with the first team. So

835
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: I remember speaking to Dallas and I think it was

836
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: it might have been Oscar Pere had at the time.

837
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: It was a Dallas talking to me about this big

838
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: kid that they had and that they were given opportunities

839
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: with their with their second team, and he was doing

840
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: great with the second team and starting to give opportunities

841
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: with the first team because he felt like he.

842
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: Had a lot of tools that were important.

843
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: And so we called Tanner to the under twenty national

844
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: team and I remember we watched him over the first

845
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: couple of days, you know, Brian Bliss and I you know,

846
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: Mi de Mazi, we were we were all discussing obviously

847
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: all the players, but in particular Tanner kept standing out

848
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 3: and he ended up, you know, as as it happened,

849
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: he ended up having a great camp. We played him

850
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: at that eight role where he could get behind the

851
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, behind the forwards a little bit. We changed

852
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: them to the number ten role because we felt like, man,

853
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: we've seen this guy in practice in any small sided

854
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: game we had have. Man, he can really hit a ball, right,

855
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: and said, so then now you're starting to add up

856
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: and you're like, Okay, well he's got good feet, he

857
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: defends hard. You know, he's got a good shot from

858
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: outside the box. You know, he actually holds the ball

859
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: really well with a man on his back. He's he's

860
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: a big kid, but he's got good skill. And and

861
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: so the campens, and at the end of the camp,

862
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: I remember sitting at the airport and I go over

863
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: and sit next to Tanner and I go to tannor

864
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 3: tenor you know, I have an issue that I haven't

865
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: had here really with anyone. I said, I don't really

866
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: know where to play you. I said, because you, I

867
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: think you can play every position. I think you can

868
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: do anything. And you know, this brings up, this brings

869
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 3: a good point that most players are sort of focused

870
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: in one position. And the reason I wanted to talk

871
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: a little bit about Tanner is because I still feel

872
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: like Tanner Tessaman can play pretty much any position, straight

873
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: up the middle. Obviously, now when you're talking about senior

874
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: national team, I think he couldn't take Balogund's spot, you know,

875
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: because but if you wanted to play with a target nine,

876
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: he likely could do it.

877
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: He could do it.

878
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: And if you want to play him as a ten,

879
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: he has a skill to be a ten and he

880
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: can finish. If you want to play him as a

881
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: defensive mid or an eight, he can do both. And

882
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: if potentially you wanted to use him as a center back,

883
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 3: he could do that as well. He's good in the air,

884
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: he's got good feet to play out of the back.

885
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: So I think that was that was a neat story

886
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: about You know, when you get so many kids, hundreds

887
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: of players over the years, that you remember stories about

888
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: certain ones.

889
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: Tanner was certain ones.

890
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: Certainly one that stood out because he's one of the

891
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: few players we had that could that could do everything.

892
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: And listen, if you need a thirty five yard field

893
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: goal to win an ACC game, Tanner can do that too, right.

894
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: He famously had signed a scholarship to play soccer and

895
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: kick for Tablos Sweeney for the Clemson football team. Some

896
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: people thought that might have been a little bit of

897
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: pressure on that professional contract to go from Dallas.

898
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 4: Butaba, isn't that isn't that isn't that his uncle or something?

899
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: God?

900
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, godfather, Okay, I know it's not unfamiliar.

901
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but obviously, like he was good enough to kick

902
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: and at least be in the mix at London? Was

903
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: that what were you ever in some of those conversations,

904
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: what do you put the football away? Like put our

905
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: football back? Not not not the grid on football? Was

906
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: any of that ever come up when he was in

907
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: camps with you?

908
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: No, no, you You certainly don't want to discourage players

909
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: from doing whatever it is that they want to do.

910
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: What's important is what's important is their performance when they

911
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: come into camp.

912
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 4: That's that's what matters you.

913
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: You know, you judge what they do on the field

914
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: and how they interact with other players off the field.

915
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: I think when you have those two down, that's really

916
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: the only things you worry about really quickly.

917
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Our good friend uncle Tony Meola famously was with the

918
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: New York Jets a little bit as a kicker. Who

919
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: who's the better kicker, Tony or ten?

920
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a tough one.

921
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: You know.

922
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: It's hard to go against my buddy Tony Miola. You

923
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: know he's the best. You know a little story about Tony.

924
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: You know, we used to train a giant stadium when

925
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: the first when the first when MLS started the first

926
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: year of MLS. I mean, Tony can can destroy a

927
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: ball By the way, when he kicks it, he used

928
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: to after practice pump balls into the upper deck, so

929
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: so that was that was that was a sight to see.

930
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 4: He hes the pump balls into the upper deck.

931
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: God, he's so mad.

932
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: Ye oh man uh no, that was really good. I

933
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: like the insight on Tanta Testam because we we see

934
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: him obviously. I think defensive or at least holding midfield,

935
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: where he can plays like a deep line playmaker is

936
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: his probably best role. He's doing it really really well

937
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: for Leon, but it goes to show how all around,

938
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: how all action he can be. I remember when he

939
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: was breaking through with Dallas. I was speaking to somebody

940
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: there and I was just like, Hey, who in the

941
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: second team?

942
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: It is the next guy.

943
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: This was at the time where Ricardo Peppy was coming through, Brian,

944
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: Brian Reynolds, Paxon Pomicle, you insert. Dallas was a factory

945
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: at that point after Chris Richards after in Western McKinney,

946
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: and someone was like, this kid testing it's good, really good,

947
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, it's interesting.

948
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: I'll keep an eye on him.

949
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that he'll that he's gonna translate to

950
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: the first team. The guy just kind of laughed and

951
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: was like, I think he can. I think he might,

952
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, cool, I'll watch that. It

953
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: was like fourteen hours later, it's like SC Dallas signs

954
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: Tanner Testament to a four year contract his first pro too.

955
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, like yeah, they're they're they're well into

956
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: this kid, right.

957
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

958
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: He certainly is a special player, and I think the

959
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: fact that you know he's playing at Leon all the

960
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: time and at times, you know, running their midfield, I

961
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: think says a lot for who he is under pressure.

962
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: That was inside the locker room with Tabramos. I'm looking

963
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: forward already to next week. I think I think he

964
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: lived up to the pressure of telling a good story

965
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: test And now now the pressure turns to me on

966
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: following that up with Inside the Notebook, where I tell

967
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: you kind of three.

968
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 2: Three of the latest breaking news.

969
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Stories that that have to do with the US national

970
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: team and the player pool. This first one doesn't exactly

971
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: totally fit that mind, and this will be a one

972
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: off considering this is going to be historic change, but

973
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: Major League Soccer announced last week they are officially changing

974
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: the season calendar. They will switch to align with the

975
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: top European leagues. The league will start in July or

976
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: early August and it'll run until May with MLS Cup,

977
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: which is a change from February to December.

978
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: Tab There's so many different ways to go with this.

979
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: It could be about on the field, obviously. It could

980
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: be about the fans and the difficulties in figuring out

981
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: games in February and March and November in Minnesota, Toronto,

982
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: New England, some of those northern markets. It can be

983
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: a really important point in the transfer window, which should

984
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: help the strength of MLS teams signing players, but also

985
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: making it a little bit easier for them to move

986
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: players abroad in the summer when these offers come.

987
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that's most.

988
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: Pertinent to our discussion here with the national team, that

989
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: there are guys that teams have had to reject offers

990
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: for because the offers come in too late, like this summer.

991
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: The MLS summer transfer window closed on August twenty first,

992
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: the European windows closed on September first. If a bid

993
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: comes in for a player on August twenty second, an

994
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: MLS team cannot replace that player, making it much less

995
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: likely that they would sell so toab What are your

996
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: I guess overall thoughts on the huge schedule change as

997
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: a former MLS.

998
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: Coach, Yeah, I think it's not certainly not easy, not

999
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: easy because of the weather and as you mentioned, you

1000
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: know some of the clubs from you know, up North

1001
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: and from Canada that they will certainly have a tough

1002
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 3: time with this on figuring out how that's going to work.

1003
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: But I'm sure they have figured it out. That's why

1004
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: they made the change, right. I think in general the

1005
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: change is very positive. I think being on schedule with

1006
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: the rest of the world makes the league a little

1007
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 3: bit more let's say, legit, right, not that it wasn't

1008
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: legit before, but I think it makes it more legit.

1009
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: Being on the same calendar makes makes a big difference

1010
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 3: for player transfer as you mentioned, and I think above

1011
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: and beyond it, it's just the competition in general will

1012
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: benefit from it.

1013
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I speak to sporting directors around the league.

1014
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: I think to a person, everybody was pretty much overwhelmingly positive.

1015
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: The only pushback from one person was while they said

1016
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: this was a very good thing in terms of the

1017
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: transfer window, it was you know, well, now we're out

1018
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: of sync with Argentina and Brazil, which are two markets

1019
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: that teams acquire players from, and the Brazilian leagues have

1020
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: such such spending power now and have been looking at

1021
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: MLS a little bit more. We could run into similar

1022
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: problems there, but I don't think. I think that pales

1023
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: in comparison to the positives. And same thing for I

1024
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: feel for the fans, I really do, particularly if you're

1025
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: in some of those northern markets. But I also felt

1026
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: for the fans in Houston and Dallas and Orlando and

1027
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: Miami playing in July, playing in June, playing in that humanity,

1028
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: there will be games that are moved to snow and

1029
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: winter weather, same way that Miami and Orlando have about

1030
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: five or.

1031
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: Six delays every summer for their games because of the weather.

1032
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: So well, I mean, I I wore a suit in

1033
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 4: Houston every day. You're a mad so that was that

1034
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 4: was certainly not easy.

1035
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: So I you know, I uh, I congratulate UH, you

1036
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: know Ben Olsen in Houston now because he he's benefiting

1037
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: most UH from from this UH schedule change. But you know,

1038
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: having said that, yeah, overall is very positive. I have

1039
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: heard about some teams potentially covering their stadiums UH for

1040
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: the winter, so that that you know, that could potentially

1041
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 3: be something important. Again, very positive move for MLS and

1042
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: uh nice to see.

1043
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: I agree.

1044
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: Let's move on to number two talking about summer trends,

1045
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: so talking about potential to US national team players.

1046
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: On the move.

1047
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Alex Freeman, the star of this camp. Last summer, Villa

1048
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: Royal had a couple of bids rejected, Villa Real or

1049
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: the overwhelming favor to sign him. I would say Alex

1050
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: Freeman has one year left on his contract and there

1051
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: is a strong probability if he gets to the end

1052
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: of his contract, he's just going to sign with Villa

1053
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Raal for free, unless that another team comes in with

1054
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: a late offer. There were a lot of teams interested

1055
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: in him and still are, but Villa Rao are firmly

1056
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. What I think is more likely

1057
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: is that there is a deal agreed this winter between

1058
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: Orlando City and Villa REAEO. Sources tell me that that

1059
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: is a real possibility. What I'm also told is Freeman

1060
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: obviously wants to secure his future. He believes that Villa

1061
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Real is the right move, is the strong move is

1062
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: he believes in the project. He also wants he doesn't

1063
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: want to leave Orlando for free like.

1064
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: He loves that club. He is a.

1065
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: Product of their academy. He appreciates Oscar Prea and the

1066
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: front office and bringing him along, giving him chances, and

1067
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: he's taken that chance. He would he hopes that there's

1068
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: a way that there could be a deal agreed and possibly,

1069
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: if not, probably alone back where he continues to play

1070
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: for Orlando for the next six or twelve months before

1071
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: going to Villa Real. So Alex Freeman to Villa Real,

1072
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: that is the team to watch for him. He will

1073
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: make this move at some point over the next twelve months.

1074
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: It just depends on when.

1075
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 4: Well.

1076
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: First of all, Via Reel is a great team. You

1077
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: know they they they play well, they have good players,

1078
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: They're a foot forward team. They you know, they press high,

1079
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: they you know, they keep the ball. I think it

1080
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: would be this would be a great fit for him

1081
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: on the field. Having said that, if you're Via Real

1082
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: and you just watch the game against Uruguay, I'm sure

1083
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Speaker 3: you're on the phone today saying how do we make

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Speaker 3: this happen right away.

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Speaker 4: Before this gets out of hand?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: So I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think I think this deal will get done in

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Speaker 3: the winter, and whether that means that he goes in

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Speaker 3: the winter or not, that's to be determined. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it would be a good idea for Alex Freeman.

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Speaker 4: To go in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 3: Normally is very difficult for a player to join a

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00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: team in the middle and be successful unless you're let's

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00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: say center forward or position where goals is the only

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00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: thing that matters. Anyway, I think that the likely scenario

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00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: would be that he gets signed to v A Real

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00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: this winter and stays down loan here till the for

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00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: the next MLS season and goes after that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if that would make sense for everybody.

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: But it's about a deal getting done and we'll see.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of level headed and smart people

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00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: within Orlando. I'm assuming the same at Villa Rail, though

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00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: I can't speak to that personally, but it's certainly an

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00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: exciting one and a very very good player getting potentially

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00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: a very good move. Number three little dual national side

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00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: of things. Brian Guzierra Chicago Fire, attacking midfield. He got

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00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: his Mexican passport. The Mexican Federation has been in contact

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Speaker 1: with him. It looks more and more likely that he's

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Speaker 1: going to file a one time switch with Mexico, I

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00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: would need to brush up on the rules, and maybe

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Speaker 1: he would go for a camp first before making that decision,

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Speaker 1: because when you make that one time switch, you can't

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Speaker 1: come back. He hasn't gotten many opportunities with the US

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00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: national team, which is totally fine and fair, and he's

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00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: exploring his keeping his options open for Mexico. And with

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00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: that being said, I'm told pretty much every big club

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Speaker 1: in League A Mechi's, particularly now that he's got his

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00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: passport and will count as a domestic player if there.

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Speaker 2: Was to be a move.

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00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Monterrey and Cluve America are the two teams that I've

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00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: heard that are really pushing for Brian gutierres and bids

1123
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: are expected to come sooner rather than later. Chicago Fire

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00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: rejected a bid I believe twelve months ago or last

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00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: winter from Chivas for Brian Guzierra, So the League A

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00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: Mechi's interest is not new. The passport is new, and

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Speaker 1: I think that changes things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, first of all, Gutieri is a great player.

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00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: He's so fun to watch. I really like him.

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00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: But I think he's likely looking at the same crowded

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00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: midfield that we're looking at with the national team and

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00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: seeing where am I going to have the best opportunities,

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Speaker 3: And I think unfortunately sometimes you know, with the national teams,

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00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: as much as you want to keep everyone sort of

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00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: under your banner, you know, players just at the end

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00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: of the day are going to do what's best for

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00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: them and for their families. And I think likely in

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00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: this case, I'm not going to disagree with with Brian

1139
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 3: Gatti's that going to Mexico is likely a good move.

1140
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have more of an opportunity to

1141
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: play on that Mexico team that he would on this

1142
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: US team, at least the current US team. So I

1143
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: think good move for him, unfortunate move for for US,

1144
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: but I think it comes at a time where our

1145
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: midfield is overcrowded and his chances would be very limited.

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00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: And on the personal side, for the club side, those

1147
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: are the Gemmicki's Giants, those are really really big clubs

1148
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: for for I don't know if some fans don't don't

1149
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: understand how big that is, like going there, or or

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00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe somebody wants to see him go

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00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: to Europe. There's a lot more money in Mexico, and

1152
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, the pressure, the pressure is there.

1153
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: Those are really big clubs, and I hope that people

1154
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: understand and can respect that. So with that tab, it's

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Speaker 1: our first episode. I think it went pretty well. I

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Speaker 1: think we should this again next week.

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Speaker 4: We made it. Maybe we should do it, we should

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Speaker 4: do another one, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Agree, and I hope, I hope that are that are

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Speaker 1: wonderful pauses here at iHeart agree. So thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for listening to the first episode of Inside American Soccer.

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Speaker 1: Please rate, review, and subscribe. New shows drop every Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.