1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: The Nikky Griser podcast, nik Gleaser, here's Nikki. Hello, welcome 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: to the show. It's Nick Lays a podcast. I'm here 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles with Brian Frangie next to me. What's up? 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Do you just decided to throw on the sun hat 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: over the headphones? 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah it doesn't fit. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Nope, it doesn't. You got a wain ask? 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's hot out. It's one hundred degrees so 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: that's a way damn degrees sleep. 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: You dress like you're going on an expedition in the 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Arctic most of the time, and it's one hundred and 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: ten degrees outside. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Now you know what, I dressed like an eighty five 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: year old man going to the beach. Yeah, that is it. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: I don't want any sun to touch my skin at all. 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: You over, no, okay, just leave my visiline on the floor. 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. You only want to touch that. Yeah, 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: you just like to cover up. You don't want to 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: get sun exposure. 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to put on sunscreen because then I 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: get all sticky and then what I hate about sunscreen 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: is about around four pm m you start it starts 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: dripping into your eyes and then you start having an 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: eye pain and you start tearing up and I don't 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: want to deal with that. Is that so much task? 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: That's why you wear so many layers because you have 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: a You have a scarf that Noah pointed out, but 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: you said, it's not a scarf, it's a buff buff. 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: What's the difference between a buff and a scarf? 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: Well, a buff is made of cooling, moisture wicking material 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: that you can wet and it'll keep you cool if 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: you wet it with wet ye cold water. 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: That feels good. 34 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice. And my my shirt is also very breathable. 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: It's probably actually cooler to wear this shirt than to 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: wear like a cotton T shirt. 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: Why not white though? Wouldn't a white color be butter 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: for not overheating? 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't own a white one. 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Well that makes sense. 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Ryan is highly flammable right now. All these materials will 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: just ignite if you. 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: What is everybody saying, aren't you hot? And search? 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: So we know that those are. 45 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: What I have a question though, sometimes when people walk 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: into this room that we are so frequently in here, 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: you will put the buff over your mouth. 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I do that? 49 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Is that a what what you look like? You're about 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: to rob a bank. It looks like you're a little 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: a bandit on the run. Is that because sometimes you'll 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: do it and it's like almost like you want to 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: protect them from your breath or you're worried about COVID 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: or something, and and I can see them like tense up, 55 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: like what did I say? What did I do wrong? 56 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: But is it just a nervous habit. 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's nervous. 58 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm throwing nerves on it. Yeah, I think nervous. 59 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: I don't know why I just do it. I was 60 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: going to say it's because someone comes in here and stinks. 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're far away. I thought that too, But. 62 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: No, it's just it's I think it's a little fun. 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: You know. I get bored sometimes and you know, pass 64 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: the time. I'll put my buff in different positions. 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: Okay, well I'm going to just so much more fun. 66 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 5: Why did you say it does make things so much 67 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 5: more fun? 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, things are just I've never had so much fun 69 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: in prison. Yeah, it a new period. So every once 70 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: in a while, Yeah, it's it's something to play with. 71 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: I play with my necklaces. Girls have things to like 72 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: play with. Maybe he plays with their hair all the time, right, 73 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: that means she likes you. 74 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, if you're if you're a peacock. 75 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, you don't even mean to girls just 76 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: start like kind of preening. 77 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Is that the word when when you like a boy 79 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: you just start kind of like trying to make it 80 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: look better. I guess. But you're also nervous, so you're just. 81 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: Like somebody I do this. I just rub my arms, yes, 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: a lot of arm rubbing. 83 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think you do that because you're like trying 84 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: to draw attention to your arms and your skin, and 85 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: you're trying to be like like it's like almost a 86 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: sexual movement. Yes, is how I think that's it. I've 87 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: done that before. 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: Do you guys know the hug position in sex? No, 89 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: like to comfort yourself, you can go like this. 90 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: These okay, so you put your cross, your hands across 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: your chest. Okay, what and. 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: Then and then it makes your body it's your yeah, 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: and then it should soothe you. Oh yeah, but it 94 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: doesn't work. 95 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that that would make me. So it's 96 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: almost like when you're you try to make it look 97 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: like you're making out with yourself from behind. I feel 98 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: like I've seen Nicky in this position. I do that 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I get I crunch up in a 100 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: little ball. I'm feeling anxious, I want Yeah, yeah, that 101 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm trying to get hugged by myself. 102 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: What is there tell when you're like attracted to someone, Nikki, 103 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 5: Have you ever been dumb that you do a certain. 104 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: I don't make eye contact and I'm really mean to 105 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: them and they have no idea. No, I think I 106 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: play with my hair and I'm I'll uh a smile lot, 107 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: and also try to seem disinterested in them, not make honestly, 108 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: not make too much eye contact, kind and probably talk 109 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: about sex stuff, try to get the conversation a little 110 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: bit sexual. And I know that some people. I think 111 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: in the past you've been like annoyed by girls that 112 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: do that, Onya. So I'm sorry to say I do that, 113 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: but I don't do it around people who have. 114 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: I've never been like, oh, your boyfriend. 115 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: If I advertize sex around Avi or Matt, it's not 116 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: because I'm wanting to fuck them. It's just because I 117 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: also happen to be interested in that topic regardless. But 118 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: I think that when I like a guy, I'll just 119 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: try to steer it to like not even sex like 120 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: relationships or like just and it's not for me to 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: be like think about me as your girlfriend. I want 122 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: to get information about their situation or how they might 123 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: be in bed, or like if they're a sexual person, 124 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: and I might try to get them to see me 125 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: in that light a little bit. I don't know. 126 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 5: I do think I have seen you once in a 127 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: while be like nervously antisocial, which I'm like, wait, why 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: is she not talking. 129 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: Now? I'm always confident anti No, Yeah, I think I 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: I do get quiet and nervous, and I get not funny, 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: like that's there's no funny. You can't mix the two. 132 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: If I dive a new thing, you guys, if you 133 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: don't want to come too fast, I figured this out. 134 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: Did I share this shit? If you're masturbating and you 135 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: are coming too fast? Aka me recently, and masturbation is 136 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. I like to like spend 137 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: a lot of time doing it. I like to like 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: what's it called? I think it's called gooning? Yes you can, 139 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: it's so embarrassing what this term is? What is what 140 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: gooning is? Like the face you make when you're about 141 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: to come, and I think they like coined gooning is 142 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: like when you try to extend Christmas Eve before the 143 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: Christmas so you just so you're just like, oh. 144 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: If you went home and and like your your families 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: out of Christmas decorations, like on December first and go, 146 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: you guys are really gooning Christmas this year. 147 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: I was always trying to goon Christmas. I was always 148 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: the last one to open present. I never wanted it 149 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: to end. I'm always the last person to open a 150 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: present because I want it. I just wanted to last forever. Yeah, 151 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: and so I've been trying to I've always been very 152 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: good about not It's also called edging. Edging, Yeah, it's 153 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: same thing kind of gooning. And I think gooning has 154 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: a connotation that like somebody. 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: Sourcing you to goon. Oh yeah, like you're goon is 156 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: a negative connotation. Edging is like what you'll see on 157 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: read to be like I edge for forty five days, 158 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: yes I haven't come yet. And then gooning is like 159 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: you're just a little piece of shit. Gooning, Yeah, it 160 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: does have a negative. It can't come well. Goon used 161 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: to mean like you're a doofist? 162 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Will you look it up? Noah, what the definition of 163 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: gooning is? 164 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: Please? 165 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Because yeah, gooning doesn't sound good. 166 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: No, and there's the goonies. Oh okay, really goes on 167 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: for way too long. 168 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: Gooning is a state into which one gets when one 169 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: is highly aroused. Goooning typically typically describes male behavior rather 170 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: than female. According to Urban Dictionary. 171 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm goon and what's a female goon? 172 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: Uh? 173 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Gooness? 174 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 175 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: But goon and and so I was having a lot 176 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: of trouble because I think ever after I got that 177 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: hormone pellet in my ass or whatever, like I can't goon. 178 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm just like it's I don't know if this is relatable. 179 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 180 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too graphic because I don't. 181 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: It's just gross. But you know, when you like are 182 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: about to climax, like I usually have control over that moment, 183 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: and I can like not. I have a lot of 184 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: self control. It's almost like anorexic like where you're like, 185 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I have a plate of food in front of me, 186 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna eat it even though I want it 187 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: so bad, and I'm like forcing myself not to and 188 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: I feel like superior, because I'm not like I just 189 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: I feel in control. 190 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: I have no control over it anymore. 191 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: In til I realized if I laugh, if I force 192 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: myself to laugh, even a fake laugh, a fake smile, 193 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: instantly deflates my arousal wow and takes the pressure away, 194 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: and then I can continue gooning. And so if you're 195 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: about to come start laughing, just a fake laugh, because 196 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: your body can't do both. You're it's it's it's almost 197 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: it's it's like physically impossible to both laugh and come. 198 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: You can't. It's there's, yeah, you can't be horny and 199 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: laughing at the same time. 200 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're both defenseless or something. There's they're the opposite things. 201 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: But so I found like the easiest thing. 202 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: The other night. 203 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I just was like, oh, this is too soon. I 204 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: want to watch a couple more videos. I want to 205 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: extend this because it's like the most fun part. And 206 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: so I just go like, haha, like to myself, I mean, 207 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: it's fucking crazy. No, it's not sounding, but it works. 208 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: So if anyone wants to try that, just laugh or smile. 209 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: If you're with a person and so you don't want 210 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: to like laugh weirdly, just smile into a pillow or 211 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: something and would to God, your body like reacts to 212 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: your smiling as like we have to turn off the 213 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: thecomwaves has to stop. 214 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: It would be very confusing if someone saw you doing this, 215 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: you're gooning and you're going crazy. 216 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: I hope this hotel room's not haunted because those ghosts 217 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: have moved onto another room or they're sticking around, because 218 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: it's very entertaining. 219 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: Goon used to mean back twenty years ago, just like 220 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: a do fiss, like a guy who make it? Oh yeah, 221 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: like yeah, And in high school, I had this friend 222 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: who he called me a goon, and I called him 223 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: a goon, and so we instituted this thing called the 224 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: Goon Challenge, and throughout our lives. I'm still friends with him. 225 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: Throughout our lives, we would have these competitions, like even 226 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: if it's in high school, like we're playing Hangman on 227 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: the chalkboard before class. Whoever wins that's one point in 228 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: the goon Challenge, and we kept track of who has 229 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: more points over the course of many years, and whoever 230 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: would lose would be the ultimate goon. But where did 231 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: you off? Well, here's where we left off. We kind 232 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: of after after the college and stuff. Yeah, and then 233 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: you know he took his own life because I was yes, no, 234 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: but uh, after after I went to college or kind 235 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: of stopped a goon in each other, and I, uh, 236 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: many years later, I just randomly started sending him anonymous 237 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: packages from Amazon. You know, you can send a package. 238 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: You can send an Amazon package to anybody, anyone, anyone 239 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: you want. 240 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: And they won't know the ship it. Yeah. 241 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: I just find things on Amazon that say goon on them, 242 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: or a movie called goon, or a book that has 243 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: goon in the title, and I anonymously send him one 244 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: like every few months. That is funny. 245 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: Does he not know squad? 246 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: Do I? 247 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: Jennifer Egan? 248 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: I have not sent that yet. I've sent this was. 249 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: So hard to get through. 250 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: There's a children's book called good Night Goon, which is 251 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: like the night. Yeah, send him that. There's a hockey movie. 252 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: How do you know so many goon book on you? 253 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: First of all, you as I wish I read, you wrote, 254 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: Jennifer Egan, you read a book I did, Nikki. No, 255 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: you always heard like I wish I could read books. 256 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: I've never heard you reading. Who recommended this one? I've 257 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: not really heard it. 258 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 5: My friend Heather Larimer in Portland who's very literate, and 259 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: she recommended it. It's about record a record label person 260 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 5: and bands. So it was like I like this, but 261 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 5: it was very kid. 262 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: It was like Daisy Jones and the. 263 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: Six way more aer udite than that. 264 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: Don't use that word, noah, look up ade I don't. 265 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I like all nose searches will be goon. 266 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: It's definition. 267 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Is like it thinks you're more book smart than you are, Like, like, 268 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: is using the word erde I think it's. 269 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what it is. 270 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's ironic that the word is what it is, 271 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: like your erudite if you I don't think you were 272 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: being erudite, but it's it was. 273 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: Just having or showing great knowledge or learning. 274 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: Ah, so yeah, you're kind of that word. Yeah, that's 275 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: an a word. I remember it from the SATs, but 276 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: I didn't quite remember what it means. 277 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: My new word that I'm trying to use a lot. 278 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh fuck, what was iton? 279 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: No? 280 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: Well that's after today, for sure. What was it? It's 281 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: something that Sam Saharas said the other day and now 282 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I forgot it, but I wrote it down and I 283 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: was really good. I can't believe I remembered it. It's 284 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: so hard to pick up a new vocab word and 285 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: use it. 286 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot what the number was. But it's like 287 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: you're the average human only has like six hundred words 288 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: total or something stupid like that. 289 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Whoa spurious? 290 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 5: Oh curious slam heresy? 291 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 292 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Do you know what that means? 293 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: You guys? 294 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Anya probably does. 295 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: That's another sat word, but I don't remember what it means. 296 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I think it means like like you're a liar. Oh sorry, 297 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna guess liar, Like you're a spurious? Claim 298 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: is splantaneous? I think it's like you're just yeah, you're 299 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: full of false information? 300 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: Well, furious means that you're what's the US suffix? I 301 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: don't know what it means. I can't figure it out Latin. 302 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: We're such idiots. I'm gonna look at false or fake? 303 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: Is okay? 304 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Spurious? That's a good spurious. 305 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: You know what assiduous means? Uh? 306 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: I know what deciduous means. It means a tree in 307 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: a forest with a bunch of green. Yes, so assiduous assiduous. 308 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: No, assiduous means hard working, like you're buckling down, you're 309 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: an assiduous worker. Man. I only gets that from one 310 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: of the SATs because my friend used to say aciduous 311 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: down and work. 312 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: That's good. That's like when people trying to remember the 313 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: strains of weed. And it's like Sativa is wait, no, 314 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: Indica is in the couch. Oh, but then Sativa, I'm 315 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: always like, I mean sat in the couch. Yeah, both 316 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: of them sound like you're just in the couch. 317 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: Why are we so stupid? And I'm when I say we, no, 318 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean human things, like we need to have some 319 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: dumb nursery rhymes, remember a word. 320 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: Because there's too many things. There's too many things now 321 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: you we used to just have to know, Like we 322 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: didn't even have words. We used to just grunt and 323 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: like know what berries would make us vomit? 324 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: Do we die berries anymore? 325 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Well, you went on, you became like an expert hiker. 326 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: Didn't you go see my hat? 327 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Okay, he learned all of this, how to dress for 328 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: the heat and stuff like this. He does no more 329 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: than us because he went on a survival took. 330 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, I took the Club Wilderness Travel course. There's a 331 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: three month intensive backpacking course that UH culminates in uh, 332 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: snow camping in the mountains and me and Ali took it. 333 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: Ali is such a trooper for taking this. She was like, 334 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: what is this? And then I signed her up Jesus 335 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Christ and we did this course and it was way 336 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: more intense then we thought it. 337 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: No, Ler just wait, no, she likes she likes outdoor stuff. 338 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: She likes outdoor stuff, but this was like intense. This 339 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: was and literally literally in and out of tents and 340 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: we uh we we were gonna quit at points. 341 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: But like and also it's like the people were nice. 342 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: There was plenty of nice people. But you know when 343 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: people sign up for a class like this or a 344 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: club like this, you know there's always gonna be several Well, 345 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: there's show offs and then there's several just insufferable people. 346 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Tell us about one of them, well. 347 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: One of them like supported Russia and the war in 348 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: Ukraine and talking. I didn't know she was into that 349 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: kind of thing. He was actually pretty nice. But like, 350 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes stuff like that would come up, and 351 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: then like there is just I called it a culture 352 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: of darkness. Yeah, where they were just so they wanted 353 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: you to wake up at like two o'clock in the 354 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: morning so you can get to the trailhead at four 355 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, so you can start hiking before 356 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: the sun rose. And I would get there and I'd 357 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: be like, why are you doing this? Like this isn't 358 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: fun to torture yourself. 359 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's why I would ask you why, Yeah, why 360 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: do they do that? But but why did you even 361 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: do this thing that they could do that to you? 362 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: You like a certain amount of torture. 363 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: I wanted to learn. I wanted to learn what all 364 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: you learned? 365 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: What could you tell us from your wilderness training that 366 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: like is important for someone. I just read last night 367 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: that people are going to Death Valley for like the 368 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: hottest place in the world. Yeah, as just like a tourist. 369 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: It's trending into like a tourist trap to like I'm 370 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: going to this place that's like one hundred and fifty 371 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: degrees outside and there's only three gas stations for an 372 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: area the size of like the Grand Canyon, and there's 373 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: all this. Like this person was like, I'm from this area, 374 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: do not go here as a tourist, And they're like, 375 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: if you're if go to a car that is like 376 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: so brand new, like that you trust because it's like 377 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: so dangerous, and they were giving all this advice. You 378 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: need three gallons of water per person in the car, 379 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: if your car, if they don't drive on a spare tire, 380 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: if you're if you can, you imagine driving into the 381 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: Death Valley and then you get a fucking flat and 382 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: then you keep going. They were like, if you get 383 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: a flat, turn back around. It's like, yeah, no. 384 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: Shit, I'm going to Death Valley New Year's Eve this year. Okay, yeah, 385 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: I have a whole plan. Well it's it's the National 386 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 2: Parks and I'm going to have to go to all 387 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: the National park Yeah you do, and we are. We 388 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: are going to rent a jeep to go to like 389 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: the I think that person was like a little bit 390 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: maybe like over zealous. Yeah, yeah, how dangerous it is. 391 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: There's like two little towns that are in Death Valley 392 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: that you can stay at like a nice like spa. 393 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's like it's not quite like that, really, Yeah, 394 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: it's more like it's almost like if you. 395 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Know we're death it is. 396 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's why it's so cool. Yeah, if you 397 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: go in the middle of summer, it'll be like one 398 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty degrees and you'll burn up and die. 399 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: But if you go in like the winter time, like 400 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: seventy degrees. 401 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: I have a question. 402 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: You went with Ali for three months on this venture. 403 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: It's like once a week for three months. It's like 404 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: you have in you have seminar in person seminars like 405 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: classes on Wednesdays, and then the weekends you do excursions 406 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: where you camp and you learn how to you know, 407 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: make a fire and keep protect yourself. 408 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: Do you watch alone the show? 409 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: I haven't watched it yet, but Nikki had many times. 410 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and treated so curious how long you can survive? Okay, 411 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: we have to take a break. Let's talk more about 412 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: survival when we get back. Get back, all right, we're back, okay, 413 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: So what did you learn in this wilderness course that 414 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: you could teach us? 415 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: Well? Filter the rules of three, the rules of three. 416 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: I know the t the ten essentials. What's the rules 417 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: of three? 418 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: The rules of three? 419 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: From what I learned is you can only survive like 420 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: in the extremes, three hours without shelter, three days without water, 421 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: and thirty days without food, thirty. 422 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 4: Days without Oh yeah we've done that, Niki. 423 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: Well that's right to me, not true? Yeah, okay, three 424 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: days without water. That seems kind of long. 425 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you probably get heat stroke or something 426 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: before you died of start. 427 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: I think hypothermia sounds like the best way to die, 428 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: because apparently most people are found with all their clothes 429 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: stripped off because you start to feel like you're hot, yes, 430 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: and then you just curl up in the snow and 431 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: you like have you know, people who have been on 432 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: the brink of dying have reported that it's like really 433 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: warm and sunny and a lovely like kind of passing away. 434 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: You get, uh, you get you know, you start hallucinating 435 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of lovely. Yeah, I mean, but 436 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: he does sound good. He strikes almost. 437 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: You're just hilarious. You fall off a cliff if you 438 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: have huge true, oh Jesus Christ, if you have heat stroke, 439 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: you will just you won't die from the heat stroke. 440 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: You'll probably fall off a cliff and hit your head 441 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: on a rock and die that way. 442 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: Because you're just so weak and you're still trying. 443 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: To stumbling around. You don't know what's going on, you 444 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: don't know where you are. 445 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: You try to top on a cactus trying to get 446 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: the water out of that. 447 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's not good that it would give me nothing. 448 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: I've been trying to get a reception on my phone. 449 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: And just like fly off, trying to post on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, 450 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I uh did. 451 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 452 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the death that I 453 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: read about this weekend. Then I sent my friends this 454 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: woman was like sleeping in some grass, some tall grass, 455 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: like a homeless woman. 456 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 457 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, she didn't go home. Oh no, 458 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: she didn't look almost because they were like, well, that's 459 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: the new thing home. Anyone can be homeless now because 460 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: our fucking society is so fucked up. So there's recent 461 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: pictures of people who are homeless that do not look 462 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: homeless because they weren't homeless a week ago, but they 463 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: are homeless because they can't fucking afford to live anymore. 464 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: So she was like pictured. Her last picture was like 465 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: at a party with a guy. She has like a 466 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: normal outfit on. She has like a plate with like 467 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: some food on it. And that was like the picture 468 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: they showed at least that I saw. And then now 469 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: she's homeless and someone was a huge John Deere tractor 470 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: and apparently her family was like there were chunks of 471 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: her everywhere. God, But then they had a picture of 472 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: her jeans that she was wearing and like her top, 473 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: and there was no there was no blood or anything 474 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: on them. So I don't know what what was what, 475 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: But it was in Modesto, California, where Scott Peterson allegedly 476 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: killed Lacy. 477 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, not even allegedly. 478 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: I think he's convicted, but my friend Taylor McGraw says 479 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: that he's innocent, So who the fuck knows. 480 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 5: I've watched two Scott Peterson documentaries and what are you? 481 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: Very confusing? It's so confusing. 482 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 5: By that time you were watching, you're like, oh my god, 483 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 5: there might not have been time for him to do it. 484 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: He really was gone. 485 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: Taylor said, just because someone is cheating and there gets 486 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: murdered does not mean they did it. It could just 487 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: be a coincidence. Just because you're googling chloroform a life 488 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: insurance policy before they die, it could be coincidental. There 489 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: is someone out there that has googled chloroform or just 490 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: been interested in like is maybe and just their wife 491 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: happens to go missing, Yes, and then it looks so bad. 492 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks you're guilty. But like, there is at least 493 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: one situation out there where that is coincidental, And that's 494 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: what Taylor says, is like's not, it's just coincidental that 495 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: he was cheating on his wife and lying about it 496 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: and all these things and wanting to get out and 497 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: then she goes missing. 498 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gone for an hour when Lacey's home, and 499 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 5: he's like riding his boat around the bay. And then 500 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 5: there's this robbery that happens across the street from Lacey's 501 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: house with these guys in a van and they're loading 502 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: shit from the house across the street, and Lacey goes, 503 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 5: what are you guys doing? What are you doing? And 504 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 5: a person, a neighbor drives by sees Lacey crouching near 505 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 5: the van, looking scared, and they're like it looked like 506 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 5: she was urinating or something. 507 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: That she looked afraid. 508 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 5: This story, they wouldn't admit that into court because of 509 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 5: some weird thing like, but it's in one of these 510 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 5: documentaries that the neighbors like, I drove by and I 511 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 5: saw Lacy talking to these guys and she looked a 512 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 5: little scared and I couldn't tell. 513 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: And somebody else was like, I saw Lee scared. 514 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Anytime I'm talking to men in my neighbor's driveway. 515 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's also right around that time she was murdered. 516 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: I look scared all the time. If I got murdered, 517 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: people would be like I saw Nikky earlier day at 518 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: Starbucks looking scared talking to the barista about how this 519 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: was supposed to. 520 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: Be almond milk. 521 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: Like it would everyone would be implicated because I just 522 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: look like a guilt Like I'm just like crown by everyone. Yeah, 523 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: you know, do you mind if do you guys have 524 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: an extension court? I'm sorry forgot whatever? 525 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: Do you apologize quite frequently? 526 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do, Yeah, but I am genuinely sorry. No, 527 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: it's existing. It's my mom's dad's fault. They got a 528 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: little randy on September eleventh. I think I was conceived 529 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: on their anniversary, the year anniversary of their wedding, because 530 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: it kind of back. 531 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: To September eleventh. 532 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my parents anniversary is September eleven. 533 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 534 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: I've always known that day as a tragedy. 535 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: That's my joke. 536 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, my other joke is that on their anniversary 537 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: every year, I you know, ride on their car with 538 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: like white shoe polish, like happy anniversary, and they have 539 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: to just drive around all day, but that would be 540 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: so awful. The two towers of your life, yeah they are. 541 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm building seven and I don't know what any of 542 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: this is, so I forget what I was saying. 543 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: But you're always apologizing. But I think it's because it's yes, 544 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: you're apologizing for your existence, but you also you're recognizing 545 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: when other people might feel like a little bit bad, 546 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: and so you you're you're just acknowledging other people's experiences 547 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: by apologizing more so than I think most people would. 548 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very aware, but I don't like to pat 549 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: myself on the back about being like I'm so intuitive 550 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: about how people feel. But I feel like I might 551 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: be I don't know how other and maybe and I'm 552 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: projecting a lot of times like I would feel this way. 553 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: But I like to get ahead of anyone possibly thinking 554 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: I'm a bit or having and not to control the 555 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: narrative about me so much because I don't. I kind 556 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: of don't care when I find out people think I'm 557 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: a bit. I don't care if I was one. I'm 558 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, well that's fine. I've kind of let 559 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: that go. But I just don't want people to think 560 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: like the other day, I changed my mind about something 561 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: that a lot of people had prepared something for, and 562 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: I felt bad because people had gotten to work early, 563 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: they had put a lot of work into, like thinking 564 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: that I was going to do this thing, and then 565 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: at the last minute, I was like, I don't want 566 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: to do this at all. I'm so mad. I should 567 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: have said no to this at the first start of 568 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: the thing. And so I had to send a lot 569 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: of text apologizing to each person that was involved. Yes, 570 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: just in case they thought I carelessly was just like, 571 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, disregarding of their time and not and not caring, 572 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: because that would make me feel shitty. I would just 573 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: have I would be like, and I think when you're 574 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: I think it's easy for people to think that celebrities 575 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: think that they're better than everyone else, and there they 576 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: don't care about other people. And sometimes I don't like, 577 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: sometimes you get treated so nicely, you forget that all 578 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: the work that goes in to treat you so nicely. Yes, 579 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: and I like to try to remember that, I guess, 580 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: but I can be bad about it sometimes. 581 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: One of your generous with an apology, Yeah. 582 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Thanks. One of your goals in life 583 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: is to have some on some set somewhere where you're 584 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: not on it. The hair and makeup person says, I 585 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: met Nikki Glazier and they go, oh, how was she, 586 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: and then go, she was actually really nice. Yes, that's 587 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: your goal. 588 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: I like, it always comes back to me when people. 589 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: I saw someone the other night and he said, my 590 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: girlfriend was a makeup artist for you on some project. 591 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, and of course, I don't even 592 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: know why I got tense. I've never once been rude 593 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: to a makeup artist, and maybe maybe I have unintentionally, 594 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: but never intentionally. And I was still nervous. But he 595 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: was like, she said, you were so nice, and I 596 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: was like, ah, and I yeah, I do. I get 597 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: off from being one of the celebrities that people have 598 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: nice things to say about whatever. Just watching it. 599 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just watching an episode of The Car 600 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 5: Now she ends up and getting into this season, and 601 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: you kind of overlook moments when people might be rude. 602 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 5: But there's this one scene when Chris is getting her 603 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 5: makeup done by this guy, and he's like, they cut 604 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 5: off the scene, but it's right when he goes it 605 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 5: was so lovely meeting and she completely ignores him and 606 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: she's like, let's go shopping. Girls like completely ignores him twice. 607 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 5: And it was one of those things where if you're 608 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: watching the show, you wouldn't even notice it and it 609 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 5: would be like a nothing moment. 610 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 4: But I was saying that. 611 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 5: Was really rude, Like, yeah, he was talking to her 612 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 5: and he's like, you look beautiful. She doesn't address him. 613 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 5: She goes, I look amazing, and then he goes it 614 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 5: was so lovely meeting and she's just onto the next thing. 615 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 5: Nothing just gets out of the chair. 616 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: I kept myself doing that a lot, where I just 617 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: don't I'm just focused on what's next and I don't 618 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: hear the person next to me, and so I can 619 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: come off as rude and it's unintentional. This weekend, Carlisle, 620 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: I was over at her apartment and I was just 621 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: feeling low and she's like, you need to do like 622 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: an NA d like a a V drip, and so 623 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: she's like, let me just call and so she calls 624 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: this like med spawn. She's like, you know, has them 625 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: on speaker and she's asking this girl all these questions 626 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: about NAD and it ends up being like seven hundred 627 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars you can get an a NAD push 628 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: into your IV that you're already getting. But this is NAD. 629 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't it's like energy. Yeah, it's like energy. It 630 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: like helps with brain fog. None of this stuffs I 631 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: really believe. I think it's all placebo. 632 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: That's like a ball, like I know in yeah, it 633 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: should shape that, but it's na D. 634 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how you. I don't think people are 635 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: that like focused on balls. 636 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: You're upset, I'm spurry. 637 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: So NAD. She's like, get it. She's like, if I 638 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: had your money, I would do this every day. She's 639 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: always telling you that. She's like, if I had your money, 640 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: I would do this to my neck, I would do 641 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: this to my face. I'm like, are you thinking what 642 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: I should do to my days? And nick? But she's 643 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: always telling me things like that. So she's like, let 644 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: me just call, and so she calls and this girl 645 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: is like giving us all this information, talking for so long, 646 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: and then I just go to Carlis, I'll go I'm 647 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: not gonna do it, and she's like, Okay, thanks bye, 648 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: and like just hangs up on her really quick, and 649 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: the girls like have a great day, you know, like 650 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: hangs up and I go Carla. That was so rude. 651 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: She was just focused on doing what I was telling 652 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: her to do, so she wasn't focused on the girl 653 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: on the other line. So she just hung up on 654 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: this girl. And I'm always when there are people that 655 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: help me on a phone call, I'm always like, I 656 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: wait for the thank you have a good day. You 657 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: have a good day too. I really appreciate your time. 658 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Like I like to give them something so they don't. 659 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: So they don't cause I know the telemark erters have 660 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: lost faith in the world. Sure people are screwed to 661 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: them all day long, and I go call out. You 662 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: can't if someone has given you seven minutes of their 663 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: time going over their menu, what this thing does for you, 664 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: how the ivy's work, the pricing plan, it doesn't matter 665 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: if you're not going to use it. You have to 666 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: thank them for their time. And you know, I know 667 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: it's their job. But like I do hang up sometimes 668 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: when I get up spam call and she's like, Hi, 669 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: this is Tefan. I honey, I'm sorry, sorry, I can't 670 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: do this right now, bye, and I will hang up 671 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: without getting out. Her response from that's. 672 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: Different because that's that's someone trying to sell you something. 673 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: This is a receptionist mm hmm, who like unwilling, like 674 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: just just took the call. 675 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Carol, Yeah, you called her and that girl could 676 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: have customers lining up in front of her who she's 677 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: giving like the one minute finger two because she's talking. 678 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: We've all been into a place where they're on the 679 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: phone with someone who's asking about every fucking detail of 680 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: their menu, and you're like, bit's just look online. 681 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: Right, Why does the phone get precedence for the person 682 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: who's actually there. The phone always gets precedents. 683 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: Because it's ringing and it's annoying. 684 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: But I like, al yeah, sometimes they say hello, this 685 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: is the VET, please hold, and then they put you 686 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: on hold. 687 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: And then I'm in the counter and I'm freaking out 688 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: because that person's been on hold way too long. 689 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: They got a dying God. I've not got either side. 690 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I stress out. I just don't get the call 691 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: and just take care of it. I'm I'm sorry, I'm 692 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: even here. 693 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: I meant to bring up though, another thing, another topic. Yeah, 694 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: the gil Go Beach murderer, Long Island's most famous unsolved murder. 695 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: This he was caught. 696 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about this girls chat referenced it and 697 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I just called it like the dildo beach murder. They 698 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: were making dildo references. I haven't heard about this. What 699 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: is this? 700 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: He is a guy who turns out he looks like 701 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: exactly what you think a serial killer would look like 702 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: every fucking time. Just describe him. You've never seen him, right, Okay, 703 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: describe this guy. 704 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: Bald, beautiful, uh like, age spots all over uh no, 705 00:32:54,440 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: iris just all pupil molestered glasses, that's okay, scraggling like 706 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: unkept hair. Let's go unkempt hair, yes, blondish I think so. 707 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not trying. 708 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: Just messed up. 709 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, borderline obs. 710 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, border like like like a bigating man. Oh really? 711 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 5: Yes? 712 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: And what was heming? 713 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: Thee? 714 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: There is? 715 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: But he normally has glasses too, and he's an he 716 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: looks like a football coach. He's an architect. 717 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's not. You could tell he's probably a 718 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: good looking guy. At one point. I kind of like 719 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: his hair. It's kind of like dune up hair. It 720 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: has like, uh, that hair would have been killing it. 721 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: It's like Rob Thomas hair nineteen ninety nine. Rob Thomas 722 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: his hair. 723 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: Maybe he would have been killing it too. 724 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so what did you can't have that kind 725 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: of long hair if you're a serial killer. 726 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: That stuff's falling out and that's very noticeable. And then yeah, 727 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: dna oh yeah, no, no, well he was, he was. 728 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: He was very good at hiding his victims. He hid 729 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: them at Gilgo Beach in the marshes. 730 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: And how long was he murdering for? 731 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: He murdered From what I understand, I'm no expert, but 732 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: I believe he murdered four people and he buried them 733 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: in the marshes. And the thing about the marshes that 734 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: you bury a body in a marsh, it like decomposes instantaneously, 735 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: like animals eat it. 736 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: It's called a bog body. 737 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: A bog body. What's that? 738 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: Sounds like exactly tech talk where you try to get 739 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: like lay in a bog and it like eats your 740 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: fat or something. Okay, So he knew how to get 741 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: rid of these bodies fast, I guess so, or he 742 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: just got lucky. 743 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: But he put all the bodies in the same area 744 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: in Gilgo Beach and they were there for years and 745 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: he was not caught. That happened in like two thousand 746 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: and seven. There are four prostitutes yes, so there's more. 747 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: You can't just kill four prostitutes over twenty years, no 748 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: fucking way. There's got to be more. 749 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: So there's some funny and also disturbing things from I 750 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: read the my friend is actually a police officer in 751 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: Suffolk County where this happened, and he's like giving us 752 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: all the updates, and I read like the I don't 753 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: know the police reporter or whatever. And there's a couple 754 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: of funny things in it. Yeah. One of them is 755 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: the fourth person that he killed was a prostitute who 756 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: he went to the prostitute's house to have sex, and 757 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: she was performing what the report described as a ruse. Okay, 758 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: she performed a ruse where she had the guy. She 759 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: didn't know this guy, she was just talking on the phone. 760 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: She had the guy coming to his house. She's like, 761 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: give me whatever five hundred dollars and we're going to 762 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: have sex. And then the guy gave her the five 763 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: hundred dollars and then she had another man come out 764 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: pretending to be her angry boyfriend, going oh the fuck 765 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: is this guy and then kicks him out to kicks 766 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: him out and they keep the money. Okay, little did 767 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: she know that this guy already murdered three prostitutes, so. 768 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: I think she has a guy there. 769 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: Good thing, she has a guy there. But now he's 770 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: like he's like zeroed in on her, and he he 771 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: calls her up and says, that wasn't very nice. 772 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: Oh wait, she did it to him, and he's scrammed. 773 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: He's scrammed, but he's not going to forget. He's not 774 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 2: going to forget. And she goes, that's not very nice. 775 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: Next time we do this, please make sure that your 776 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: boyfriend isn't there, or maybe he said like, let we'll 777 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: do it at a different location, a second location. Yeah, no, 778 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: that wasn't very nice. It's so scary, very nice, so 779 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: scared when you know that he's a murderer, really scary. 780 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: So that was It was just funny that they described 781 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: it as a ruse in the report. Oh and then 782 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: she got prostitute, this guy cruise. She met up with 783 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: him again and he strangled her and threw in the morning. 784 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: We just say, like I think that we I think society, 785 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: I mean I know they do. They don't look prostitutes 786 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: as like real people, and I think that it can 787 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: be just like, oh, he just killed prostitutes. No, baggie, 788 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: they're just prostitutes. Do you know that? We're all prostitutes 789 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: really that just had better lives? Actually, in us, we 790 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: all could have been prostitutes if we just had shitty parents, 791 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: no fucking support, our whole lives. Except this one pimp 792 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: that showed us a little slice of kindness. 793 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 2: We are all. 794 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: We are all any anyway. I think sometimes you just 795 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: think I would never do that. I could never do that. 796 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: Like these women want to do this, they don't want 797 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: to do it. They're sex trafficked. They have no other options, 798 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: and they're no different than you and me, except that 799 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: they were just born into a better situation. And same 800 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: with a serial killer. To be honest with you too, 801 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: h we're all just lucky we did. We're born with 802 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: a serial killer's brain. 803 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 5: And all of us are just a month away from 804 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 5: being like that almost woman who got. 805 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: Lawnmower sleeping, And I mean she must have been opioiated 806 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: out because how do you not hear lawnmower approaching? I yeah, 807 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: might have been in a deep sleep. 808 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: Why do you sleep? And that you shouldn't sleep in 809 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: the tall grass either, like there's ticks in there. It's 810 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: not comfortable. You should. I learned this from my she 811 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: was on. 812 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: Drugs, drugs and Brian's So what did you learn? Oh? 813 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: Uh were ten essentials? 814 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I'd rather I don't want to say anything about that. Okay, 815 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: I'd rather, I mean, it's not interesting enough to say. 816 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: But at the gig beach murderer, I have more information, 817 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: Please tell I mean, I can tell you the ten essentials, 818 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 2: but it's like, okay, bring water. 819 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: Would he have sex with them first and then murder them? 820 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: And how would he murder them? Strangle them? 821 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 2: Strangle them? 822 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 823 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: Another funny thing is that they asked that angry boyfriend 824 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: who was part of the ruse. Yeah, describe the guy 825 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: who came over when they were trying to investigate, and 826 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: he said, uh, he was quote, I'm not saying this. 827 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: He said this, and it's in the report. He was 828 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: big and scratch like an ogre. That was I thought 829 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 2: that was funny. 830 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 1: He's like have you seen Shrek? 831 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: Okay. The other funny thing about these murders is he 832 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: would only do it, uh when his wife went on vacation. 833 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: So this guy had a wife. He had a wife, 834 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: and he was an architect with a wife. And then 835 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: everyone buildings did he design I wonder the World Trade Center? 836 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 2: No he did, Oh my god, he designed I don't know, 837 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 2: probably some fucking uh you know, brutalist German bank or something. 838 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: There's buildings that you and I use every day that 839 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: this guy had a hand to make a hand in. 840 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: Man. 841 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure some internet sleuth is going to find out 842 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: what they are and they're going to become a. 843 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: Well. 844 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 2: I do want to, uh say one more thing about 845 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: his wife. So his wife would go on vacation, and 846 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: every time she would go on vacation, he would go 847 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: murder somebody. So the first time she went to Ice, 848 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: the second time she went to Italy, and it's like, 849 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 2: from the wife's perspective, it's like if she just stopped 850 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 2: going on all these lavish solo vacations, those women would 851 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: still be alive. 852 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: Eat, prey, murder. Yeah, yeah, blame the woman, Yeah, blame 853 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: the woman on this one word was he He's like, Oh, 854 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: they justing to do get They need to murder to 855 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: feel alive. It becomes like this addiction for them, you know, 856 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: like they they just want it too bad. They they 857 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: know it's wrong. They wish I think that some of 858 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: them wish they didn't have it Jeffrey Dahmer. Just from 859 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: watching that, you know, the mind Hunter, not even mind Hunter, 860 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: the one where what's his name isn't it Evan Peters. 861 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: It just seems like Jeffrey Dummer didn't want to be 862 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: a murderer. I don't mean to get on this whole 863 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: high horse of like these people don't choose it, but 864 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: they don't choose their murderous brain. 865 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 2: They don't want to, like no one wants to have it. Yeah, 866 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: but they do choose something. It's like if you're a pedophile, 867 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: you have a pedophile brain. But you can be a 868 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 2: pedophile and choose not to do things to kids. You 869 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: can be abraid. 870 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: You don't choose that. Your brain just is lucky enough 871 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: to be one of the pedophiles that doesn't want that 872 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 1: knows a way out, like you don't. There's no free will, 873 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: but so you don't choose anything. But they have a brain. 874 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, yes, you could choose to try to 875 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't believe in when we say choose, I'm not 876 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: thinking that it's actually your will choosing, but let's just 877 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: use that word. Yeah, you could choose to go get 878 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: help for these things. But imagine telling someone I want 879 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: to murder, like you can't. There's no safe places for 880 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: these people to go where they won't be reported, because 881 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: if someone has homicidal fantasies, they're gonna get reported, sure, 882 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: So they really have nowhere to go except to other 883 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: murderers to share or you know, like that fucking Idaho 884 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: murderer guy. Allegedly he went on subreddits and was like 885 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: do you. 886 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 5: He he? 887 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: What did he ask? He asked something about what it's 888 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: like he because he investigated murders. He was going to 889 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: school for criminology, and so he would just go on 890 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: these chat rooms and like talk about like what do 891 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: you think they felt after their first murder? And like 892 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: just wanted to hear about stuff like that. Yeah yeah, yeah, 893 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: oh god I can. But I also I will just 894 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: say that I know I can't wait for any information 895 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: to come out about that or the Delphi murders. Is 896 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: my is my number one. I want to know what 897 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: that motherfucker did and how his wife did not notice 898 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: that he was. 899 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 4: Likes like BTK or whatever his name was. 900 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: He he had a daughter and a wife crazy. 901 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 4: I think he had two kids maybe and they were 902 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 4: just like this guy and. 903 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: He was dormed for like twenty years and didn't kill anyone. 904 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: But then he just was like someone in the newspaper 905 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: we're talking about BTK. He had murdered and got away 906 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: with it forever. Because I was listening to John Mulaney's 907 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: stand up this weekend and he was talking about old 908 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: time murders. He's like, it's insane that anyone got caught 909 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: back then, because there would be there was no DNA evidence, 910 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: so there would be like a pool of blood and 911 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: the detective would be like mop this up, yees, like 912 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: let's draw a white chalk outline around the body. That'll 913 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: do something like you just like couldn't get caught because 914 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: there's no DNA. So BTK was getting away with murder literally. 915 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: And then years go by and someone in the Kansas 916 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: City Star newspaper was like, I guess this guy died 917 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: or something. You know, he or he just you know, 918 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: couldn't do it anymore. And he couldn't stand that because 919 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: he wanted to control the narrative. He didn't want people 920 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: to forget what he did, so he started like writing 921 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: into the Kansas City Star and then they traced one 922 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: of his dumb letters to a disk drive from his 923 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: church that he worked at. So if he would have 924 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: not had an ego about it, he would still be 925 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: out there. 926 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 3: How does that play into your free will thing? Then 927 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: if he was able to control himself and not do 928 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 3: it for. 929 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: Twenty two years, brain that was able to stop doing 930 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,959 Speaker 1: it for whatever reason, you know, Like he was born 931 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: with a brain that had the capacity to stop, you know, 932 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: and some zero killers don't. And some molesters do have 933 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: a brain like oh, I want to fuck kids, but 934 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: they whatever, for whatever reason they are, they stumble upon 935 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: the right information where they're like, oh, there's a group 936 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: of people that talk about not offending. Oh I'm going 937 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: to join this. Like you have to be presented with that. 938 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: You have to you have to have a brain that 939 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: is capable of even thinking of that way out. So 940 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: like you know, when you reach for a glass, you 941 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 1: don't get to whatever hand do you think you choose 942 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: to reach that glass with? It's you can go, oh, 943 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm choosing with my right hand. But what in my 944 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: brain made me choose my right hand? I wasn't there 945 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: for that decision. It just showed up. 946 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: But you think you have control over it, So I 947 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: won't get more but practically I don't want to debate 948 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: it either. But practically speaking, now debate it's just not 949 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't exist. There's it's literally there's no chance. Perhaps 950 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: you're right about that, but practically speaking, it's just it's 951 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: not practical way to think about things. 952 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: It actually is for me because it makes me feel 953 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: talk about feeling guilty all the time and feeling sorry 954 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 1: all the time. And when I do like this small 955 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: I forgot to plug in my laptop for or last night, 956 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: I forgot to plug in my laptop for this, and 957 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: so we're, you know, fighting against a dying battery. I 958 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: let myself off the hook for that, because in no 959 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: world would I have ever chosen to have a half 960 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: full battery for this podcast this morning. There's no if 961 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: I had a choice, it would be full. But I 962 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: forgot to do it. Not because I chose to forget 963 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: or because I'm a negligent piece of shit. I just 964 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: didn't remember. And it's not my fault. My brain just 965 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: wasn't turned on that day. Or if I say something 966 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: stupid or I'm always I know my. 967 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 2: I just I'm not. 968 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: I'm not in charge of my brain. It's just I 969 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, I don't. I don't take responsibility for 970 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: my talents because I just was born with the brain 971 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: that worked this way and I don't and I don't 972 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: have that means and it's not often that I do this. 973 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: But I don't have to take responsibility for my faults either, 974 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 1: because I didn't choose to be someone who ran over 975 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: that kid that July afternoon in two thousand and three. Wait, 976 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: what does that weigh on you? I don't even know 977 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. No, uh so I let things 978 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: go a little bit easier that I like. I'm trying 979 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: my best and body bog bots. There's no bogs in 980 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: my area. 981 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum 982 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 2: as you. 983 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 984 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 2: I think everyone is one responsible for everything they do, 985 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: even if they're not. 986 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: I want you to read this book free will Sam Harris. 987 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying. He keeps trying to make me meditate 988 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 2: and I ten percent happier. I read that you did. 989 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: Let me tread, Brian. 990 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 4: There are a lot of spurious claims there are. 991 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 2: I read ten percent happier and I got ten percent 992 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: more bored. 993 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: Boom. 994 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 2: No, I did actually like it. I actually liked it. 995 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 5: I I have to. 996 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: I've been journaling recently a lot more and that's been 997 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: helping my mental health and uh, and crying, you know, 998 00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: also helps a lot. 999 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: That helps them. That's an amazing tool. 1000 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: What the fuck I know how many times you have 1001 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: to stay it on this podcast. I'm just incredibly amazed 1002 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: at how crying alleviates so much right away. 1003 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: It's like you take a shitty, it's an emotional shit, 1004 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: and you just. 1005 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: Feel emptied out afterwards, you feel like bouncier. You just 1006 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: feel and I'm never I don't know why I don't 1007 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,959 Speaker 1: do it. I'm not one of these people that cries 1008 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: and then gets embarrassed afterwards of like I'm sorry I cried, 1009 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: Like I really always just am like, oh good that happened. 1010 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't have any shame around it. I don't get 1011 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: why I'm not crying all the time. 1012 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's I think it's the same. You know, 1013 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: some couples get into really intense, yelling arguments and then 1014 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 2: they never related to them and they maybe bang out 1015 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 2: after that. Oh yeah, Like I think that's the same 1016 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: as crying for them. It's like we have to just 1017 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: do this every once in a while. 1018 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: I if you're one of those couples out there that 1019 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: can scream at each other. How do you do that 1020 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,720 Speaker 1: and not fear that the person's gonna leave you forever? 1021 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: How the f I whenever I see women that are like, 1022 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: you need to fucking do this, and you never and 1023 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: they like are screaming at a man, I'm like, he's 1024 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: gonna leave you? 1025 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 2: What you should well you shouldn't get it. But if 1026 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 2: they're both yelling at each other and that's just their thing, 1027 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 2: then there's something like I. 1028 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: Can't I've never once, I think at one time I've 1029 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: yelled at Chris and it was not even at him. 1030 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: It was like at my therapist and it was supposed 1031 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: to bounce off of her and hit him, you know 1032 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it was and he was just 1033 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: like shell shot, like he couldn't even believe he was 1034 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: like what was that like? Where I'm just like and 1035 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: you know this, like, this's the only time I think 1036 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: I've ever raised my voice because I'm scared of being left. 1037 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: Why is everyone just so sure that everyone's gonna stay 1038 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: with them forever? 1039 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: Why does no one have. 1040 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 1: Abandonment issues like me? I would never ever want stand 1041 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: up to myself in a yelly way to almost anyone, 1042 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: but especially a lover, because I'm lucky to even have one. 1043 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 2: Mmm, I don't know, I can't. I don't know if 1044 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 2: that's true. I mean I think, uh, I don't know. 1045 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: I mean your your your relationship has ended and started. 1046 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 2: So that's probably why you're afraid of that, because it 1047 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 2: actually has happened. 1048 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a good point, but I just I've 1049 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: yelled at my I can yell at my parents like 1050 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: that because they're never gonna leave. They love me unconditionally. 1051 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't even know why I have 1052 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: these abandonment issues, because my parents never abandoned me. No, 1053 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: never emotionally, yes, all the time, I mean chronically, but 1054 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: physically they've never left. They're never going to leave until 1055 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: they die. And I don't want to think about that 1056 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: or I start crying. Okay, let's just go to break 1057 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: for a second and talk about this more when we 1058 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: get back. All right, we're back. Do you ever get 1059 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: any screaming matches? 1060 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 5: I've done that before. It doesn't feel good, and I 1061 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 5: cannot recover from that stuff. It takes me like three 1062 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 5: weeks to regain some sense of like trust in the 1063 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 5: other person in the relationship. 1064 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 4: So I'm not a yeller I had. 1065 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 5: You know, I've had a couple friends yell at me before, 1066 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 5: where I'm like, who do you like your friends put 1067 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 5: up with this shit like no, no, no, you can't. 1068 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 5: You can't talk to me like that. That's been the 1069 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 5: end of those friendships. I have one friend who screamed 1070 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 5: at me once and we're still friends, but I let her. 1071 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 2: Know, this is a boundary of yours. 1072 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess that's a boundary of mine. I keep 1073 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 5: thinking about that word since the Drama Hill thing. 1074 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like what that means. 1075 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt like it was misused in a way, 1076 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 5: but I'm still trying to and it feels like the 1077 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 5: whole culture is like that's not a boundary, that's control, 1078 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 5: but like a boundary to me is something that I 1079 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 5: put up to protect myself. It's not something that I 1080 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 5: impose on you, Like you can respect my boundary, I 1081 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 5: guess or not. But anyway, I have had a friend 1082 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 5: scream at me, but Matt and I don't do that, 1083 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 5: Like I really don't like that, but we have. We've 1084 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 5: definitely said some words to each other before, yes, like 1085 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 5: loudly and fuck you or fuck off or whatever, but 1086 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 5: not a lot like I'm like you get one pass. 1087 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Well, we were talking about this weekend on 1088 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: the GC the Girl's Chat, and we're talking about when 1089 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: we get when a conversation well you know, like I 1090 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, you get into something with your significant other 1091 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: end it just is so tense and the one person 1092 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 1: is annoyed and they're just like, Okay, it's good like 1093 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, like that shit down like yeah, cool, no, 1094 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: sounds good like that kind of talk where like I mean, I'm. 1095 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm do it. 1096 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: Who knows if it's it's probably worse than yelling at 1097 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: someone and telling them how you really feel. It's the 1098 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 1: other end of that, I guess on the other side 1099 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: of the things, it's just as unhealthy. But what do 1100 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 1: you do when someone says you're supposed to just probably 1101 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 1: calmly say I don't really appreciate your tone, or like, 1102 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: based on your tone, I feel like you might be 1103 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: mad at me right now? Can you tell me exactly 1104 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: how you're feeling? Is that what you're supposed to say? 1105 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: That's what I tried to do, that you're sensing them 1106 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: be that way shutting down? Yeah, you say based on 1107 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: your tone. I'm sensing that you're upset with me? Is 1108 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: that true? And could you tell me why? Or points? 1109 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 3: I think that points at them, like points to blame 1110 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 3: at them. I think in that scenario it's best to 1111 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 3: give them ten minutes and say, hey, how about we 1112 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 3: take ten minutes and then come back and talk about it. 1113 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. I have a friend that does a lot of that, 1114 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 5: and I've learned over the years that the best thing 1115 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 5: to do is just give them a lot of room, 1116 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 5: because every time I've been like, what is this, it's 1117 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 5: like a fucking nightmare. 1118 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 4: It just gets worse if I point it out. 1119 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 3: It's like, have you ever been like really like I 1120 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 3: don't know, like heat it over something and someone tells 1121 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,399 Speaker 3: you to calm down? 1122 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: Like what's the thing that you don't do? You don't 1123 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: calm down when someone says it, yes, relax and you 1124 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: just can't. 1125 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, but how are you supposed to ignore it when 1126 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 5: somebody's just obviously being passive aggressive? 1127 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I think that's this. 1128 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 4: I want to call it out. 1129 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: I think that you're right. It's something like, well, I 1130 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 1: since you're being passive aggressive right now, and that is 1131 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: probably going to make you very upset me saying that. 1132 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: So I'm going to take ten minutes and maybe you 1133 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,439 Speaker 1: call me back when you maybe have had a change 1134 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,240 Speaker 1: of heart and you want to talk in a different 1135 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: tone with me. But that seems that I really don't 1136 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: you punishing. 1137 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 2: You got to use the magic phrase, which is when 1138 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 2: you do X, it makes me feel X you oh 1139 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 2: that I really. 1140 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: Would like for X, Y and Z. 1141 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1142 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 4: Right, you are annoying and when you. 1143 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 2: Act so fucking annoying, it makes me hate you. I 1144 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 2: wish you would do things that I liked. 1145 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: I what about this? This is when I use a lot. 1146 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: I know you're upset with me right now. Will you 1147 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 1: please take a second to realize that I've literally never 1148 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: in my life tried intentionally to make you mad or 1149 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: to hurt you. It's not within my it's not I've 1150 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: never wanted to hurt you. I've never done anything that 1151 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: I was purposely like. This is gonna make him feel 1152 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: worse about himself. So will you try to understand that 1153 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: maybe if you're feeling that way right now, it was 1154 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 1: by accident, and you could and I can, and you 1155 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: can find a way to forgive me, because if you 1156 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,760 Speaker 1: if coming from a place of knowing. Do you believe 1157 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: that I would never try to hurt you? 1158 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 2: Do you believe that? 1159 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: Yes? Or no? Yes, I believe that you would never 1160 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: try to hurt me, because why would you be with 1161 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: someone that you think would ever try to hurt you. 1162 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: Let Yes, we've all said mean things. I can say 1163 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: that one time I have actually tried to hurt Chris 1164 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: by saying something, And it was in two thousand and 1165 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: like fourteen, and it was I was really hurt and 1166 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: I said something that I knew would like. It was 1167 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: passive aggressive, and I knew would hurt his feelings. And 1168 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: it was one time that I can even think of 1169 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: that I've ever wanted to hurt this person that I love. 1170 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: And I admitted to it. And it was not a 1171 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 1: good scene when I admitted to it, but at least 1172 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: but I said from that now you can trust me. 1173 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you if I ever do that again, if 1174 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: I catch myself being purposefully cruel. But if we're working 1175 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: from a place of I'm never trying to hurt you, 1176 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: even if it's subconsciously, maybe I am, at least consciously, 1177 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make you mad at me. All 1178 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: I want is for you to love me and never 1179 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: leave me. Can't you see that maybe I accidentally did 1180 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: this thing and you can forgive me for sure. And 1181 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: I think that's how to me a lot, is to 1182 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: remind him because I think a lot of times we 1183 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: get hurt because we think the other person is either 1184 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, careless, meaning they're not trying but they're not 1185 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: actually trying not to right, or they are intentionally being cruel, 1186 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 1: which is just insane. And if you're ever with someone 1187 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: that repeatedly is intentionally being cruel to you, get the 1188 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: fuck out. 1189 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's happened to me, right if you're isn't it? 1190 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,959 Speaker 2: But isn't it amazing the restraint of the human race 1191 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 2: in that any which races? I just want to picture 1192 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 2: this person, you know, yeah, like the race of men 1193 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 2: with scraggly hair and glasses, ogres, the race of ogres 1194 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 2: and that bog brothers. Just think about this every day 1195 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 2: every day. You can we all have the power to 1196 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 2: truly hurt the people around us by saying something. Obviously 1197 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 2: you can like run them over your hard not including that, 1198 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 2: but you could, like there are things that you could 1199 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 2: come up with for for anybody in your life, Like 1200 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 2: if I said this to this person, it would really 1201 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 2: hurt them, and we all have the restraint to not 1202 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 2: do that. Isn't that something we all deserve over reward. 1203 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 5: I always think about that on an airplane too, Like 1204 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 5: how amazing is it that we have that we're all 1205 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 5: just sitting confined on this tiny tube and no one 1206 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 5: is like screaming or freaking out. I mean once in 1207 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 5: a while, but most flights are chill And isn't that 1208 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 5: nuts that, like, as a human race, we've all managed 1209 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 5: to just chill the fuck out for sometimes eight hours, 1210 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 5: seven hours. 1211 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: Quietly on this thing when probably a lot of us though, 1212 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: I think it's less about like respecting everyone else and 1213 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: knowing that if you cause sir, it's this is like 1214 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: you can't fuck around. 1215 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 2: That's evolutionary because like if you did that in the wild, 1216 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 2: they would just kill you. 1217 00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would be ostracized and you can't survive alone. Now, yeah, 1218 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: that's true, Like we need community, we need people helping us. 1219 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: That's why getting to like child rearing, that's why people 1220 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: feel so guilty about getting nannies. Bitch, you had uh, 1221 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: probably three hundred, I don't know how big their tribes 1222 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: were back when we were having kids, you had a 1223 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: whole tribe of women helping you rear a child back then. Yes, 1224 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton book, it takes a village. It literally 1225 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: takes a village to raise a child. And so women 1226 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: are priding themselves on. Women pride themselves up being like, 1227 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm a strong mother who doesn't need any nannies, doesn't 1228 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: need help. And I get it, Like, if you can't 1229 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: afford nannies, don't get you can't. You can't have them, 1230 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: and you got to do it on your own. And 1231 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: that's kind of what you signed up for. And it 1232 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: fucking sucks, and it's way harder than you even thought 1233 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: it was going to be. And I have so much 1234 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: empathy for you. But if you can afford a nanny's 1235 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: and you're being holier than now, like I need to 1236 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,959 Speaker 1: do this on your own, you're doing your child a disservice. Yeah, 1237 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: because it's not the way you. You are not gonna 1238 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: be well rested, and you're not gonna be I would 1239 00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: get so many fucking NaNs. 1240 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 2: I give so much help. 1241 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: So every time I see my kid, I am like 1242 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: the best version, the most loving, the most present, the 1243 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: most You know that that's what I would do, and 1244 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: I'd probably seem on the outside very neglectful of my child, 1245 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not around them a lot, but it would 1246 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: be so I can show up as the best. 1247 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 5: I think a lot of moms are afraid that the 1248 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 5: nanny is gonna bond too much with the kid. I 1249 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 5: had lots of I think I went to nursery school 1250 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 5: and probably had babysitters. 1251 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 4: I don't remember any of them. 1252 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: That's why I tell my friends who get nervous about 1253 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 1: nanny having too much of a relationship with their child 1254 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: over them and I'm like, your kid won't fucking remember 1255 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: this woman. 1256 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: Consciously though, what about subconsciously? 1257 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they've they've well, just make sure you get enough, 1258 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: Like don't only see your child an hour a day, 1259 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: Like don't don't be completely don't be like I can 1260 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: only give I'm only happy an hour day and that's 1261 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: only one. That's not what I'm saying, Like, you know, 1262 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,919 Speaker 1: don't completely abandon your child. But like I would say, 1263 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: treat yourself to a massage, let the nanny take over 1264 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 1: for a bit, Like do nice self care things so 1265 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: when you do show up, you're relaxed and cool and 1266 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: loving and present. 1267 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 2: I would give my baby to the nanny for like, 1268 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: don't remember shit, man, the first like eight years and 1269 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 2: then I take it back. 1270 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have nanny's helping me out a lot, 1271 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: but I would also feel deep shame about that because 1272 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: our culture is so about like who's the best mom, 1273 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm momming so hard right now and 1274 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm a mom. Like I was with someone recently and 1275 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: they didn't oh yeah. 1276 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 2: It was. 1277 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: Fourth of July weekend. I was with a couple that 1278 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: has a baby, and I'm not joking you. They never 1279 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: brought up the baby even once. Wow, And I was 1280 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: expecting it to be baby palooza, like, oh you hear 1281 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: about this baby. They missed the baby. Oh I wonder 1282 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: what the baby's doing. Oh, we just got a picture 1283 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: of the baby. Like I hear about Anya's dog more 1284 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: over a week and when they're not with the dog, 1285 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: then I heard about this baby. And it's it's not 1286 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: because they're bad parents. They just enjoyed their trip away 1287 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: from the baby and I. And when I did ask 1288 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: about the baby, my god, they had so much to 1289 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: say and it was like, you know, the damn broke 1290 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: and it's not like they were trying to withhold that. 1291 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: But they were just it just seemed like a healthy 1292 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: relationship where it's like the baby's fine, We're not going 1293 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: to be overly like, okay, I need to check it 1294 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: in constantly. It was just like it was the kind 1295 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: of parent I would want to be, and that I 1296 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: probably would not be able to be because I'm so 1297 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: worried about what other people think about me, or that 1298 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: nanny might tell people like she spends a lot of 1299 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: time getting foot massages and I'm here all the time, 1300 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,479 Speaker 1: and then that gets spread around. So I'm not saying 1301 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: I could. I would want to be the type of 1302 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: person that could let my kid be with a nanny 1303 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: and kind of forget about it. Yeah, were you watched 1304 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: by nanny's and nanny's We never did. 1305 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 2: No, I had my grandma lived. Oh, I wanted to say. 1306 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 2: That's what I want to say, is that you did 1307 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 2: the right thing. I think the way to be truly 1308 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 2: happy is if we all live in small villages with 1309 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 2: with our with our families and friends, like the fact 1310 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 2: that like when we were in the wild or whatever, 1311 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: in tribal communities, we just lived with everybody we ever 1312 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 2: knew and loved or hated just everyone we ever knew 1313 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 2: altogether growing up, and then occasionally someone would go off 1314 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 2: into the tundra and we never see him again. But 1315 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 2: for the most part, you'd be raising this everybody be 1316 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 2: raising each other in this village. And by you going 1317 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 2: back to Saint Louis, I feel like you're kind of 1318 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 2: returning to that type of You're you're with your family, 1319 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 2: You're you're with people, you know, you're in You're in 1320 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 2: your familiar place, and I think that truly is the 1321 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 2: key to happiness, and I think that is why so 1322 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: many people are depressed. For example, me, my family is 1323 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: in every single corner of the United States of America, 1324 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: like I have Seattle, my sister's in Seattle, my brother 1325 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 2: is in Boston, my mom's in Florida, my dad's on 1326 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,479 Speaker 2: Long Island, and I'm in la And it's like there's 1327 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 2: no chance that we'd ever and I feel like we 1328 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 2: should if we wanted to be happy, we need to 1329 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 2: return to that like village type of life. And that's 1330 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 2: also why I envy people who like live in France, 1331 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 2: because France, I just think those French have it all. 1332 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Final thought, yeah, keep going. 1333 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 2: I envy the folks that live in France because it's small. 1334 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 2: Because it's small. So imagine if everybody that you ever 1335 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 2: knew and loved lived in Pennsylvania. Yeah, and it's like, oh, well, 1336 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 2: my sister lives in Pittsburgh, even though I live in Harrisburg, 1337 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 2: and it's like, who fucking cares you drive two hours? 1338 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1339 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 2: But in America, it's such a big country, so spread out. 1340 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 2: It's so spread out that you could be literally a 1341 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 2: six to seven hour flight away from your closest relative. 1342 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1343 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 3: But wait, wouldn't that mean then that your tribe member 1344 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 3: would be that crazy neighbor with the possums. 1345 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Yes, no, well maybe, but I live next to the 1346 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 2: possum person because I'm not with my tribe. Yeah. If 1347 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: I was with my tribe, that possume person would have 1348 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 2: been excommunicado. Yes, many years ago. 1349 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: Think you're right like I sensed. I think during the 1350 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: pandemic when I was at a very low point, not 1351 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: just because of pandemic, like a low point in my 1352 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: life anyway, and I was looking for an out because 1353 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I was just stretched too thin, and I like was 1354 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: really struggling. The second I had an excuse to go 1355 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: back home, I like leapt at it. And now I'm 1356 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: out here in la and I miss my family so 1357 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: fucking much. I just miss being within ten miles of them. 1358 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Oh like, even though we don't hang out every night. 1359 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I watched Family Feud last night. We were on with 1360 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: against bb Rex's family on ABC. I don't know if 1361 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: you guys caught it, but I was like so excited 1362 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 1: to just see their faces and how cute they were. 1363 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: And I was just like missing them so fricking much, 1364 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: and tonight I have so cute. Yeah, Lauren was adorable, 1365 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 1: she looks amazing on TV. My mom was so pretty, 1366 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: and my dad was handsome and cool, and Matt was 1367 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: there and no, Matt was so hilary. We were so 1368 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: we're such a cuteie family. It made me so happy 1369 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: to be a part of such a tight knit family, 1370 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 1: and I do miss them so much, And it really 1371 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: is That's why I'm trying to get all of my 1372 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 1: friends in one place. I'm trying, like, ideally I would 1373 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: just live somewhere where we would all live together and 1374 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: all of our kids would hang out or you know, 1375 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: our dogs, and yeah, it really is, truly what makes 1376 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: me happy is being near family and friends, and I 1377 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: feel That's why it's just felt a little depressed this 1378 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: week because I'm like away from my boyfriend and just 1379 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 1: like my family and I'm just La. No one noticed it. 1380 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: She's like, every time you go to La, you seem 1381 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: to get to breast and I'm like, yeah, I think 1382 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: I do. Even Carla, I was like, why do you 1383 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: hate La? I'm so mad that you hate La every 1384 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: time you go. And it's like it's not that I'm 1385 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 1: like everyone's fake and too pretty. It's just like it 1386 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 1: just feels like everyone is kind of a lone wolf 1387 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: out here. There isn't that sense everyone's kind of I'm 1388 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: maybe picking up on that vibe that everyone's kind of struggling. 1389 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: And it's so fucking hot that my whole climate change 1390 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: stress that I feel constantly is like front and center here. 1391 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: You just feel it extra hard. She Tucson must be 1392 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: feeling like end of the world right now? Do you 1393 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: feel that? 1394 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 3: Like does the press of heat makes you think like 1395 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 3: how the world is dying? So, first of all, I 1396 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 3: love oppressive heat. I love it, and in Tucson it's great. 1397 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 3: Right now, I'm in New York and it's inhumid and 1398 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 3: it feels like I'm in an armpit. 1399 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to talk really quickly about Bbi Rexa 1400 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: because I played against her family last night. And then 1401 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 1: last night also was she I guess the night before 1402 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: her and she was on with her boyfriend. It was 1403 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: she her fan, her very handsome boyfriend who's friends with 1404 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. They both work in production. And my boyfriend 1405 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 1: was like when I that day I was on set, 1406 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: he was like, her boyfriend might be there. He's a 1407 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: cool guy, he works, He's worked on these shows with me, 1408 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, he's part of the team and 1409 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 1: he's like, wow, mus be nice. Now, Like I wish 1410 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: that Chris could have been there, but I had too 1411 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 1: big of a family. But then last night, speaking of 1412 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: our Jonah Hill talk, last week, Bibi Rexa posted on 1413 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: her Instagram story. It is now off, but she posted 1414 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 1: a DM from her boyfriend. Shit, so things aren't good 1415 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,439 Speaker 1: between them. 1416 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 2: I guess. Oh man, So. 1417 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: The title of this is Bibe Rexa just dropped a 1418 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: DM from her boyfriend Kean Seferi Comma shames her wait 1419 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: in the DM. Okay, so this person's illiterate. Whoever wrote this? 1420 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 2: Okay? 1421 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 1: So this is from him? Hey, I never said you 1422 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: weren't beautiful, and I never said I didn't love you. 1423 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: In fact, I said how beautiful you are and how 1424 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 1: much I loved you. I don't know why they're dming. 1425 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: By the way, her boyfriend, who appeared on Family feud 1426 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 1: with her, so apparently they're very close they've been together. 1427 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: In response to no, there's no response, she doesn't share 1428 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: the what else? But I always said I would be 1429 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 1: honest with you, and your face was changing, so I 1430 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,080 Speaker 1: told you it was that. That was the conversation we 1431 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: were having, and you asked, because I care, would you 1432 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: rather I lied to you? You gained fit thirty five pounds. 1433 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 1: Obviously you gained weight and your face changes. Question mark, 1434 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: Should I just pretend it didn't happen and that it's okay? 1435 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, come on, I gained three pounds and 1436 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 1: you call me chubs and fat doesn't mean you don't 1437 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: love me. If you're trying to find reasons to break up, 1438 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: this makes sense dot dot dot, but it's not the 1439 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: real reason. If you're unhappy with me, slash yourself, slash 1440 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 1: with life, and don't see a future with us, then 1441 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: that's okay, and that's the reason. Don't use something like 1442 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: that to weaponize your anger or anxiety or any insecurity 1443 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 1: you may have. You know, I always found you to 1444 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: be beautiful and loved you no matter what. 1445 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 2: I think. 1446 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: It's important for you to think about things and write 1447 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: things down, speak to a therapist. Oh god, screenshot this 1448 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: and posted on your Instagram socials. No, he didn't say that, 1449 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: and do this retreat thing to get to the root 1450 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 1: of the problem. Oh, let me know if you like 1451 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: to speak. If you let me know if you'd like 1452 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: to speak, if you need more clarity. 1453 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 2: Love you what an idiot? 1454 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: Really? 1455 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 2: Well, he just made like the most basic dumb ass 1456 01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Fred Flintstone mistakes. 1457 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 1: Which would which are what you don't comment on on 1458 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: your what if? She asked? Because it sounds like she did. 1459 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 5: She mean. 1460 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: My face? 1461 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 5: Never said I was beautiful? And do you think my 1462 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 5: face looks different? 1463 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well you can't fall for that. That's 1464 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 2: a trap, he says. 1465 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 1: That was the conversation we were having, and you asked, Okay, 1466 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,719 Speaker 1: so she did ask It's a trap. Does my face 1467 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 1: look different? So she is she? I guess told him 1468 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: I've gained thirty five pounds. He's probably like, I'm not 1469 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: going to say anything, but she's like on a scale 1470 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 1: and she knows it. And then she goes, does my 1471 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 1: face look different? He says yes, And now she's posting 1472 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,600 Speaker 1: this thinking everyone's going to like hate him, and I 1473 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 1: guess based on that, you know, the intro little line 1474 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: he shames her like, people are on board with that, 1475 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 1: and they did pick up on that, but she since 1476 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: removed it because I think the tightest turned and people 1477 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 1: are seeing this for what it is, which is, like you. 1478 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 2: Asked, right, No, I'm not. I I don't think it's 1479 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,360 Speaker 2: like his fault or whatever. I'm just saying, be smarter 1480 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 2: than that. 1481 01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 4: You don't fall into the trap. 1482 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 2: If bb Rexa goes, oh my god, am I fat? 1483 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 5: Now? 1484 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. You go No, you're beautiful, baby, And. 1485 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Maybe your face looks bigger because someone threw a phone 1486 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 1: at it and it's swollen. That happened to her a 1487 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. 1488 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I love you. You're so beautiful. I 1489 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't care. 1490 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 1: I like that he gained three pounds of some fat 1491 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:22,839 Speaker 1: and chubs. 1492 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 2: I know. 1493 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: He's like, I've dealt with this for a while. 1494 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 5: He also loves her clearly, and says, there's nothing like 1495 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 5: having your face change does not equal I don't love 1496 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 5: you anyeah. 1497 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 1: He said your face changed, but it doesn't mean he 1498 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,640 Speaker 1: said I don't love you anymore and I don't want 1499 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 1: to have sex with you. And I like, who knows, 1500 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Maybe that did get said, but it doesn't sound like 1501 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: it got said. What do you guys make of this? 1502 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,759 Speaker 2: Anya same? 1503 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, first of all, I want to see the 1504 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 5: whole context, But it does sound like she asked, am 1505 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 5: I beautiful? Why didn't you say it was beautiful? And 1506 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 5: he's just defending himself, And I don't think there's anything 1507 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 5: wrong with what he said. He actually sounds like, uh, 1508 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 5: like a emotionally mature guy. He's just saying, yeah, your 1509 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 5: face changed, you asked if it changed. It sounds like, 1510 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 5: but we don't know the context. 1511 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 1: So why's her embarrassing hosting these things? What people? I 1512 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: totally throw her phone at someone's face to get it 1513 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: away from her, because this is this is not a 1514 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: good look. What is happening? 1515 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 5: Girls are psyched to like put guys on blast, and 1516 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 5: it sounds like it might have bit her in the ass. 1517 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 5: She's clearly a beautiful woman. Yeah, and maybe she's going 1518 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,719 Speaker 5: through something right now. Sounds like she's insecure, she about about. 1519 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: To go to her maybe she's on she changed medication 1520 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: or something. She's going to change it soon. It's going 1521 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 1: to be ozembic and we all know where this is 1522 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: going to go. And she's going to be as thin 1523 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: as as you know she wants to be at any point, 1524 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: So the tide will turn. And but I just don't 1525 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: like this whole put. If he gets back together with her, 1526 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this has cost for breakup if anyone ever, 1527 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: it's an on my relationship altogether message. Oh god, no, 1528 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: that's a breach of trust. Yes, but I do you 1529 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: think he'll get back together with her? 1530 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean I would. 1531 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 3: He sounds too emotionally mature too, especially after like like 1532 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 3: after showing that, because she has like how many followers 1533 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:18,799 Speaker 3: on Instagram? 1534 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm a million plus? 1535 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least, Well, if I was this guy, this 1536 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 2: guy is in production. You know he's not famous guy. 1537 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 2: If I was that guy and I was dating bb 1538 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 2: rexa a maybe the most famous pop star besides Taylor 1539 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 2: Swift right now, well, no, but close, she's a she's 1540 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 2: bigger than Sting. 1541 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: You definitely asked us today what is a bb REXA 1542 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: song and then I sang it and you did not 1543 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 1: recognize it. 1544 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 2: So to even claim that she's I've seen her on 1545 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,480 Speaker 2: billboards okay, yes, like Doja. 1546 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: Cat level Okay, yeah, yeah, she's pretty close. 1547 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So if I if I was dating bb 1548 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 2: REXA and I was just like a regular production dude, 1549 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 2: I would give her many different opportunities to fuck up 1550 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 2: like that. And I'm still go back right Yeah. I mean, 1551 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 2: she's got to leash the size of what's a long rope? 1552 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Example, I don't know, we were playing improv games yesterday. 1553 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 1: What's in your bag of fun? 1554 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 2: A long rope? Please? 1555 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1556 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,640 Speaker 4: A leash the size of a bungee cord into the 1557 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 4: Grand Canyon. 1558 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, someone. 1559 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: Did their homework. Yeah okay, So but I want to say, really, 1560 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 1: the Family Feud was a great episode. Try to watch that. 1561 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: I guess maybe Hulu or something. I don't know where 1562 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 1: ABC things are, But with me and my family, it 1563 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 1: was so funny. We lost so badly. The score was like, uh, 1564 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: six eighty, like on the bb Rex's score, and we 1565 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 1: got thirteen points next to bb rexes six eighty. 1566 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 2: This is true. 1567 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: This family wept the floor with us, swept the floor 1568 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 1: with us and wept. 1569 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 4: We wept afterwards. 1570 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: It was so embarrassing. It was a lot leading up 1571 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: to that. My parents were deliriously tired because they're like 1572 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 1: eighteen slides had been canceled and they were supposed to 1573 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: get there the day before. They arrived literally forty five 1574 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,640 Speaker 1: minutes before the show began, so we have all the 1575 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: excuses in the world. We also didn't know how to 1576 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 1: play the game. It was explained to us before, but 1577 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 1: I did not know that when you buzz in at first, 1578 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 1: if the person who hits the buzzer first, I thought, 1579 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,720 Speaker 1: gets to go, and then it goes to their team. 1580 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 1: I didn't know they answer, and then the other person 1581 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 1: gets a chance to answer too. So when they went 1582 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: to me, I was just like, I don't know. I 1583 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 1: stopped thinking after she hit the buzzer before me. Sure 1584 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know, and that's on me. I should have 1585 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 1: watched the show. And there's so many details I want 1586 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: to talk about, but I signed an MDA. But someday, 1587 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: maybe when I have a mental illness and it's taken 1588 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: over my brain, I'll share all of it. 1589 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 2: We got to go. 1590 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the show. We'll be here tomorrow. 1591 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait. And Dolaka and just wear a buff, 1592 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: not a scarf.