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Speaker 1: You're listening a dracking network. The John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 2: That big job.

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Speaker 3: There, Cooktuffian, Brek beer.

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Speaker 1: Rock.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 1: I got to be back in your respective lives. Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: March twentieth, twenty twenty four, Episode four seventy five of

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Speaker 1: the Annak and Florian podcast. Kenfield, there was a time

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Speaker 1: in my life where I would fill out an NC

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Speaker 1: double a tournament bracket for March Madness with so much attention,

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Speaker 1: time and detail and energy and excitement. And I haven't

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Speaker 1: even filled out a bracket, kid. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that speaks to my mixed martial arts fanaticism

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Speaker 1: or my age or what, but I think I need

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Speaker 1: to fill out a bracket. Well, I'd imagine it's hard to.

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Speaker 3: Keep up with everything you got going on, dude, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: for me, like I remember, doing like high school was

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Speaker 1: College it was a big thing.

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Speaker 3: Even when I was working after college, it was kind

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Speaker 3: of a thing amongst all the workers.

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Speaker 1: But now, dude, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean the only thing I watch is MMA, and even

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Speaker 3: that right now, with everything going on.

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Speaker 1: Is tough to keep up with. So I feel you

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Speaker 1: all right. Later today we're going to talk to Trey Ogden.

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Speaker 1: He will fight Kurt Hollibow in the featured prelim coming

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Speaker 1: up UFC Fight Night noam a Unis versus Hebos this weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you want Ken flows picks, those can be accessed

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Speaker 1: on our full length episode from Monday. He and Brian

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Speaker 1: Petrie went six deep on the main car. They also

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Speaker 1: spent their one thousand dollars. You got to fee pretty

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Speaker 1: good about the way you're hitting them on the main

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Speaker 1: event challenge. You haven't lost a fight in two weeks,

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Speaker 1: so I think you're seven six seven successive winning bets, right,

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Speaker 1: so you're seven to zero spending your last seven bets.

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Speaker 1: You have pared it down a little bit. You stopped

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Speaker 1: doing parlays. I mean one of those seven hits was

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Speaker 1: a parlay. But dude, a couple straight wagers. I'm stunned

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Speaker 1: that we've gotten to March eighteenth and not one of

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Speaker 1: you guys has done a one thousand dollars straight wager

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Speaker 1: on a foot Yeah, Well that scares me, man, It

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Speaker 1: does scare me.

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Speaker 3: And you know, on those parlays, I was missing them

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Speaker 3: by like one fight and it was like something weird

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just serve this, John, demit, I just serve this. No,

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Speaker 3: So I'll take it, dude, I'll take it. I need

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Speaker 3: this lead and hopefully I can keep it going for

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Speaker 3: the rest of the weeks. So we're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: round table later. We'll do some the UFC three hundred

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Speaker 3: stuff with Jason Annik and Big Ron. Pellegrino will also

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Speaker 3: talk about Kamzat Chimayev to what extent is he overrated

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Speaker 3: perhaps underrated. We'll also talk about a potential first title

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Speaker 3: defense for Ilia Toopuria. But we're gonna spend some time

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Speaker 3: on UFC three hundred and Dude, I was laughing out

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Speaker 3: loud when I went through this fight card this morning.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm on the record as suggesting the UFC two

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Speaker 3: ninety nine in Miami is the deepest fight card I

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Speaker 3: have ever been assigned to call, and that is absolutely

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Speaker 3: the case. But when I look at UFC three hundred

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Speaker 3: and this is gonna sound hyperbolic because the UFC cuts

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Speaker 3: my paycheck. But bro, like it's absurd, Like the early

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Speaker 3: prelims are absolutely insurd, absurd. It's four main events for

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Speaker 3: the early prelims. Yeah, no, absolutely due. You can break

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Speaker 3: be excited about all of them. Like again, you know

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Speaker 3: you have Cody Garbrand, Davison Figureio.

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Speaker 1: First fight of the night. Yeah, first fight of the night.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, like if you took the early prelims,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, and then the main card of course is fire.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, man, they stacked it, no question about it.

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Speaker 3: As far as like strength skills of fighters, Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 3: early prelims, I don't remember a card like this.

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Speaker 1: En Ever, the featured bout of the early prelims and

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Speaker 1: these will all be on ESPN. I believe Jalen Turner

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Speaker 1: her shine leading up to UFC three hundred. As watchable

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Speaker 1: of riches and I have a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: excitement for UFC three hundred is on. Kenny. I did

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about the PFL and your role

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Speaker 1: UFC three hundred in Las Vegas, or are you going

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Speaker 1: to be there? What is your future hold as far

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Speaker 3: Yeah, originally I was supposed to be working it, but

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Speaker 3: but I did inform the PFL that I was no

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Speaker 3: a you know, I've been very grateful that I've been

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Speaker 3: I'll be continuing to do that. And yeah, so I'll

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Speaker 3: be I'll be watching these fights from the sidelines. Wow,

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Speaker 3: how about that? So I didn't know all of that.

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Speaker 3: I knew some of the depth of that, but certainly

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Speaker 3: not all of it. Doting can flow father right, Father

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Speaker 3: of the fucking Year. So does this have anything to

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Speaker 1: You're not the only one asked that. For some reason.

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Speaker 1: It helps, it helps, you know, but you know, for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, Well, we'll miss hearing you on the PFL.

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Speaker 5: Feeling great? Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: It's our pleasure. We won't keep you long, buddy. So

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth pro fight. I know you've had some big ones.

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Speaker 1: This is the feature prelim this weekend against Kurt Hollibo.

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Speaker 1: This one feels pretty big. How you feeling about it? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Kurt is one of the better guys. I thought Daniels

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike Kenny Florian bias sometimes gets in the way,

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Speaker 1: but I've always suggested that one hundred and fifty five

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Speaker 1: I think you're sort of a case study on that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe number fifty in the world right now, but on

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Speaker 1: You've had a good strength of schedule in the UF,

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Speaker 5: It's at the Palace Station.

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Speaker 4: I always get an Airbnb in Vegas, so bobig doo,

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 1: So, Marathon MMA head coach owner, how do you sort

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Speaker 5: Master Well, to me, it's all one mission, and Marathon,

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Speaker 5: So that is my mission. Competing is a part of

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Speaker 4: And what's really cool here is Garrett Arnfield took out

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Speaker 1: Dude. I love that. I hadn't thought about that angle

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy, but we're.

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Speaker 1: And dude, I love your whole martial arts outlook. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we felt like Brad Katona is a tough out

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Speaker 1: And I think I might have said Marathon Mma was

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Speaker 4: Well, I really appreciate you shouting the gym out on

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Speaker 4: But I'll be honest, I don't really watch sports outside

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Speaker 4: of fighting.

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Speaker 2: So there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, next question, dogs are cats?

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Speaker 5: For sure?

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Speaker 1: I have to Does anyone answer fucking cats?

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Speaker 5: Garrett Arfield?

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Speaker 1: We'll tell him he can't come on the show, all right. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: pineapple on pizza? Yes?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Are you offended by it? Where do you stand? Pineapple

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Speaker 1: as a topping on pizza?

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't order it, but I can handle it.

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Speaker 4: Pineapple is actually something that's good on like that kind

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Speaker 4: of like pineapple on a sache or something.

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Speaker 5: It's okay, But I wouldn't do it to myself, right, But.

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Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it. But he's not

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Speaker 1: going to judge others. So Dom Dom and I you

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Speaker 1: know Dom's Dom orders pepperoni and pineapple. So thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for not judging us. So if you could

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Speaker 1: eat any food in the world after a win on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night and have it delivered to your airbn B,

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Speaker 1: what are you what are you shoving down your gullet?

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Speaker 5: Oh man, either cheeseburgers and beer, pizza and beer.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, get this man some fucking beer and

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Speaker 1: not bud light now maybe bud light.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can't say anything, that's right. Best fighter in your

467
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Speaker 1: gym that no one has.

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Speaker 4: Heard of and no one has heard of, Oh man,

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Speaker 4: you put me on the spot because there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of them and they kind of listening to this.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: I think the next one in the UFC out of

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Speaker 4: our gym is Zach Scrogen, all right. He's an undefeated

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Speaker 4: amateur at Weltway, undefeated pro welt Away. I think he's

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Speaker 4: six and oh about to be seven and oh five finishes,

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Speaker 4: so he's definitely the next one coming out of our gym.

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Speaker 1: And he's cornered you in the past at least on

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Speaker 1: my Yeah he.

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Speaker 2: Went with me.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he went with me.

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Speaker 5: He was in the baham Owne disk corner.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right. Trey Ogden fights Kurt Hollibo

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Speaker 1: in the future prelim this weekend from the UFC Apex

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Speaker 1: in Vegas on Instagram you can find it. But Marathon

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Speaker 1: underscore MMA. My man, appreciate the time, wish all the

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Speaker 1: best with the way cut in the fight, and uh

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Speaker 1: thanks for a few minutes. We'll talk to you on

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Speaker 1: the other side. Hey, thanks for having me on guess

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. There he is Trey Ogden UFC lightweight hopeful

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Speaker 1: with us here on the Anak and Florian Podcast. Interesting guy, Ken, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know similar mixed martial arts outlook to a guy

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Speaker 1: like you. And when I hear him talk about sort

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Speaker 1: of a team dominating in jiu jitsu John donaher, He's right,

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Speaker 1: like no team in MMA. For all the great teams

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Speaker 1: out there that have realized other worldly success American Top Team, City,

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Speaker 1: Kickbox and kill Cliff FC, on and on, I could go.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the other gyms are all offended right now

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Speaker 1: that I only name three, but none of them have

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Speaker 1: mastered MMA to the point where they can coach their

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Speaker 1: athletes to go out there and in one particular fashion

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Speaker 1: just dispose of the opposition repeatedly using that martial art

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Speaker 1: or that submission. You know what I'm saying like this.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's something we should be chasing, and

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, in a lot of ways, we

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Speaker 3: also need to go further because this game changes and

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Speaker 3: you have to be able to evolve with it. So

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Speaker 3: you know, while we've seen a lot of gyms become successful,

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Speaker 3: they become successful for a period of time and then

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Speaker 3: the game changes yet again. So it's one of those

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Speaker 3: things where I believe it's one thing we should be

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Speaker 3: chasing as far as mastery, but also it's something that's

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Speaker 3: evolving all the time. And I think I knew we

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Speaker 3: here's a guy who is a martial arts historian.

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Speaker 1: We're going for wide. We're calling it the Ron Table,

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Speaker 1: not the UFC round Table. It's a fucking Ron table.

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Speaker 1: Jason aik, are you eating? Jay? What are you eating

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Speaker 1: right now? You're I mean muted fucking microphone and you're eating.

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Speaker 1: I was about to ask him, how did you gum tang?

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Speaker 1: Your fucking man? Big Ron, owner of the Paradise Cantina,

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Speaker 1: joining us live from Las Vegas for the UFC Roundtable today. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with you, Ronald. How we doing, Big Ron?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Boys? The brothers, Annick and Flow? What's good?

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Speaker 1: What's happening Big Ron? So? Big Ron's got this amazing

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Speaker 1: smacking gum with your blue microphone? Like, was that a

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Speaker 1: bit to come on chewing gum today? No, speaking of microphones,

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Speaker 1: what's up at the studio? Didn't test it out a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes ahead, so it didn't work, And now

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Speaker 1: I should have gotten to the studio sooner because the

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Speaker 1: roadcaster needed an update and I did not manage time. Well,

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Speaker 1: and here we are, you know, but we're certainly not

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Speaker 1: chewing gum on a on a live broadcast of a

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Speaker 1: podcast that's been around for like nine years. But well,

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Speaker 1: I was never mind. I'm going to save what I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say. I'm not going to say it. Look

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Speaker 1: when we when the studio breaks down, at least we

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Speaker 1: lot of things I want to get into. Jay. I

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Speaker 1: know you have some topics that you want to throw

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Speaker 1: at me and Kenny, but I want to start real quickly.

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Speaker 1: If I could with UFC three hundred, because you thought

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Speaker 1: I was gonna leave with Martin Tabor's haircut. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that. You can be sure. Wheels up to Turkey

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Speaker 1: for Big Rob Pellegrino.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he needs.

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Speaker 1: Right, you guys go together. You know he speaks English.

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Speaker 1: UFC three hundred Pat eighta versus Hill. So I was

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Speaker 1: doing a little bit of prep this morning, and this

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Speaker 1: fight card is absurd. It truly is, right. I know

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Speaker 1: it was the flavor of the month to suggest that

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Speaker 1: maybe UFC two ninety nine in Miami was better and

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Speaker 1: Ron as good as it was. Right, Davison Figueretto is

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Speaker 1: one of the most electric fighters in UFC history, future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer fighting another former champion, Cody Garbrant. You'll

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Speaker 1: be in the building, Ron, but these dudes are gonna

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Speaker 1: hit the tunnel at fucking three thirty Pacific or so.

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Speaker 1: And dude, this I mean that Jim Miller and Bobby

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Speaker 1: Green in the second fight of the night. So with

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Speaker 1: respect to UFC two ninety nine and UFC two hundred

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Speaker 1: and all the fight cards that have come before it,

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Speaker 1: this right here, this fight card that I'm looking at,

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Speaker 1: Draft one is the best fight card in UFC history.

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Speaker 2: I mean, without a doubt. I listened everybody, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was classic. That's what we do. Everybody, MMA, twitter X,

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Speaker 2: whatever it's called till we do is bitch bitch about everything.

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Speaker 2: And we have the greatest time ever in the history

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Speaker 2: of BIXS martial arts. It's it's literally the best time ever.

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Speaker 2: It's never been bigger. In this fight card, I got

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Speaker 2: sweaty palms from your build up. I don't even get

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Speaker 2: sweaty pops.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: He's guy John John Someone two ninety nine or the

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Speaker 1: best one you ever ever gonna call all right now,

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Speaker 1: three hundred the best one are you call? And the

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Speaker 1: reason I'm mute. I got a fucking guy powerwashing out here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: powerwa washing the patio. Yeah, but anyway, two ninety nine

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Speaker 1: is the best now, three hundred three oh one, just

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Speaker 1: gonna get don't funk out it anyway. Oh man, he

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Speaker 1: Sweet Dreams Hill, Baby, I want to talk about because Kenny,

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Speaker 1: with respect, I don't know if I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: some of us that give Jamal Hill a better chance

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Speaker 1: than others, And maybe I would put you in the

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Speaker 1: category of others. So Sweet Dreams Hill certainly in shape

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Speaker 1: right now, big rounds. He's him here and there in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: So Sweet James, any more of a chance now than

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Speaker 1: maybe you did a few weeks back when it was announced. Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 1: I think that his best bet heading into this fight,

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Speaker 1: regardless of how healthy is or not, is to get

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Speaker 1: it done early against Pereira.

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Speaker 3: I think Pereira, you know, obviously, we all know about

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Speaker 3: his kicking game and all that stuff. But Jamal Hill,

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Speaker 3: he's got power. He is very potent hand strikes for sure,

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Speaker 3: you know, in both hands. I think he has knockout power.

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Speaker 3: He's very fast, very clean in his ability to get

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Speaker 3: in and get out, and I think that's where he

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Speaker 3: can win this fight.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I'll listen. I think that.

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Speaker 3: Early on he's going to be extremely dangerous, whereas Pereira

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Speaker 3: needs to chip away at Jamal Hill and then over

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Speaker 3: time start taking to fight his way. But I think

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Speaker 3: early Jamal Hill is going to be very, very dangerous

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Speaker 3: and definitely has a shot of winning.

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Speaker 1: A Lex Panada right now minus one thirty five on

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Speaker 1: DraftKings sportsbook, Jamal Hill comes back at plus one fourteen,

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Speaker 1: which is suggestive of the fact that if Jamal Hill

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Speaker 1: that he might actually be favored in the fight. Ron,

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Speaker 1: do you have any lean on that UFC three hundred

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Speaker 1: main event? As we sit here, you know, about a month.

656
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Speaker 2: Out, I tell you, I'm so excited about that same thing.

657
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Speaker 2: I wish Jamal had three more months, you know. But

658
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Speaker 2: I got to sit there with him and Anaheim watch

659
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Speaker 2: the entire prelimbs. It was me and him and Blah.

660
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: We were talking and we caught up piece Pops in

661
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Speaker 2: the bight, you know, in the canteen every now and again,

662
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Speaker 2: and he looks good. I mean, he's a big boy, like,

663
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Speaker 2: I'm not a little guy fellas and that kid is thick.

664
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Speaker 2: How he makes two to five impressive anyway, But uh,

665
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: he said he's gonna go right across act. Now, I mean,

666
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Speaker 2: I don't think this is breaking news because he said

667
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: it on his own YouTube. But he's like, I'm gonna

668
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Speaker 2: box him. I'm gonna go right across the octagon and

669
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Speaker 2: I'm getting it on right off the bed. He goes,

670
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: no foul, he should burn my language.

671
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean he's gonna go for it. I'm

672
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: a little bit surprised at the betting number though, Alex

673
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: Padada minus one thirty five. You know, I would think

674
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Speaker 1: for those who factor Hills Health into the equation at

675
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Speaker 1: Alex Padata's schedule, well, Vegas, I feel like know something you.

676
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: Know, well, poetions is God. Man, what's a scarier guy

677
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: to come back, you know, especially after it. I don't

678
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: mean I don't even know what you call an Achilles injury.

679
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like the worst one. I don't even know

680
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: what you call that. But the fact he's doing in

681
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Speaker 2: less than a nine months ten months back in there

682
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: after surgery, going against that Killerer, I would have liked

683
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Speaker 2: to see a few different guys across from me.

684
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Speaker 1: If I was in But but you know what these

685
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: achilles injuries about it? You know, I don't mean to

686
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: interrupt you, but Aaron Rodgers summoning mountains with Cameron Haynes,

687
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, Kirk Cousins signing in a contract with the

688
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. Both smashed their achilles or tore him just

689
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: like Jamal So different time, you know, I know, and

690
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: and Roger's certainly a lot older.

691
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Speaker 2: Well different sport too, Jay. I mean, you don't have

692
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: a guy trying to kill you with that Kenny foot.

693
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: He has to just just kills everybody. But I agree, all.

694
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: Right, Jay, I know you have some topics you want

695
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: to throw our way, but I just want to say,

696
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: in closing, I don't think Kenny, it's a great reach

697
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: for me to say. UFC two ninety nine is the

698
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: deepest fight card I've ever been assigned. And then the

699
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: next one I call is UFC three hundred. Like this

700
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: middle batch of prelims, Kenny Sadik Yusf and Diego Lopez

701
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: will start that portion. That's a UFC Fight Night nine event.

702
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison, right, is one of the most decorated combat

703
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: sports athletes of all time. She is not even the

704
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: featured prelim. She's not even the bout before the fucking

705
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: featured prelim. Right, she's gonna be competing at like five

706
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon, right, Calvin Cater and al Jamaine Sterling,

707
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: would you like to be the featured prelim? Sorry, guys,

708
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: that slot is taken. But you can compete a little

709
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: bit earlier than Yuri Prohske and fucking Alexander Rockets. So

710
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: we're absolutely loaded. And my favorite fight on the company

711
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Charles Olavera and Arman Sarjon second fight on pay per view.

712
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: All those guys do is win. Jay, your shirt is pink,

713
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: your hair looks fruity, Yeah, covering it up. I covered

714
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: it up on an earlier episode. What do you have

715
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: for the ron table this week? For the round table?

716
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: I like it. We got to start with Flow though

717
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: I want to hear flow first. Yeah, so the UFC

718
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: title three times. But Kenny, I wanted to say before

719
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: I asked this question. For me, like, it comes down

720
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: to friendship. I've gone to know Jamal Hill, so the

721
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: blinders are on. You can be sure. All right, here

722
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: we go, Flow many fans argue Hamsat Chimayav not as

723
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: dominant as he says he is. Some suggest goes all

724
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: out in the first round then coasts the rest of

725
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: the fight. What are your thoughts on this and was

726
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: it in any way proved by his performances against Kamaru

727
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: Ousman and Gilbert Burns. Yeah?

728
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, those are two very very good fighters,

729
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: and you know, we tend to be very picky as fans,

730
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: and it's hard to say, you know, was Chima I

731
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: have a victim of inexperience or did maybe Gilbert Burns

732
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: raise his level to fight Chimayav Right, It's tough to say.

733
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Speaker 3: One thing he did answer I think in both of

734
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: those fights is he's extremely tough and.

735
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Speaker 1: He's not just a hammer.

736
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Speaker 3: If he gets hurt or if he struggles or has

737
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: to do with adversity during a fight, he is going

738
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: to respond very well.

739
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Speaker 1: I think for me, the question mark is can he

740
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Speaker 1: pace himself.

741
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 3: Extremely well over the course of three rounds or even

742
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: five rounds? And again, sometimes you're not able to do

743
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: that until you actually do that.

744
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: I think Chimaya has serious.

745
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: Firepower when you're talking about, you know, the ability to

746
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: knock someone out on the feet. I think he is

747
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: extremely athletic with his wrestling, and because of that, I

748
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: think he's able to make up for whatever lack of

749
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: technique he may have, either with his wrestling or with his.

750
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: Technique on the feet.

751
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: With that athleticism and with that horse and I think

752
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: that if he is a student of the game, we will.

753
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: See an even better Chimayah this time around or in

754
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: his next fight.

755
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: So can he be a champ at one hundred and

756
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: eighty five pounds, Yes, I think he can be. I

757
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: don't know if that's exactly what you were asking me,

758
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: but as far as you know, have we seen certain weaknesses? Yeah,

759
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of guys will show certain weaknesses,

760
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: and Chimayah is still relatively new at this game. He's

761
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: not a guy with like twenty fights in the UFC,

762
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 3: so I think he's still going to continue to get better.

763
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 3: He's learned a lot, and he's fighting extremely high level

764
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: competition of the UFC very early in his career.

765
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Speaker 1: And by the way, those fights against Gilbert Burns and

766
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Kamara Ousman were both wins for Khamzat Chimayev, who's still undefeated.

767
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: He also is a guy who got deathly ill from

768
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen retired from MMA. He never makes excuses, right. Certainly,

769
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: there have been some issues when it comes to the

770
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Speaker 1: scale and his perceived desire to make one hundred and

771
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Speaker 1: seventy pounds, But I do believe in a broad sense,

772
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: unless you are morob Dwallish Willie, there is a price

773
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: to be paid for buckets of MMA offense, and he

774
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: is an offensive fighter who is always trying to kill

775
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: the opposition, and he's doing it with wrestling, with grappling,

776
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: with strikes that take a lot of energy. So I

777
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: don't know how sustainable it is to throw that much

778
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: offense over twenty five minutes. But I do believe Kamzat

779
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Chimayev is a future UFC champion. I don't believe that

780
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I have overrated him. I just want to see him

781
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: in an active, active competition cycle and uh, you know,

782
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: hopefully twenty twenty four twenty twenty five is the year

783
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: for that big rom. What do you think? I mean,

784
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: some of the fan base believes that commentators like me

785
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: have overrated Kamzat Chimayev. I don't believe that to be true.

786
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Speaker 2: Well, buddy, you've had a front row seat for this.

787
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is a whirlwind. When he could

788
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: just his entrance, like the last time when he missed,

789
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: wait against it was supposed to be against.

790
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Holland fought after her date deeas.

791
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: Headmas udeas No, I know, he thought, but he was

792
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: supposed to Oh yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, I miss whatever

793
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: the right whatever the they were booming. This is the

794
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: first time that he got a little bit of the

795
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: dark side of the of the crowd, you know, because

796
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: most of the time everyone goes nuts and he sprinted

797
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: to the oct the guy, I mean, this guy's a whirlwind. Now,

798
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: if you want to say his tank falls off, you know,

799
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: considerably in the third round or the late second round,

800
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: you might be right, but you got to handle the

801
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: first six seven minutes of an absolute dynamo. I mean,

802
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: like Kamara, Husman is about as seasoned as it guts,

803
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: and he was extremely overwhelmed. He he didn't get you know,

804
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: finished or choked out in the first round. But if

805
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: it is a dump hams out on his head when

806
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: he took his back standing, he would have. So, I mean,

807
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: you could say what you want, the guy's an animal.

808
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: He's a whirlwind at one seventy or eighty. I don't

809
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: think he's ever making win seventy again. But at eighty

810
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: five he's a big boy in that skill set, that

811
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: one that he is absolutely amazing at. Usually, uh, usually

812
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: get a championship out of that when you're there.

813
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: Well, haven't seen him in a while. Seems like all

814
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: these boys on the train. Alright, we got another one

815
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: for you, and I love how Ilia to Puria his

816
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: countryman may Rob getting the shot? All right, John, start

817
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: with you here. Eliot Topurio had suggest to Puria, I

818
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: like saying that had suggested he would not give Max Holloway. Yeah, here,

819
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: Rodriguez or Brian Ortega a title shot once he became champion.

820
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Do you think Toporia has a saying this? And I'll

821
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: say some champions have more say than others. We've certainly

822
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: learned over the years. Well, I think Ilia Toportia was

823
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: just wanting to criticize fighters for inactivity or casting judgment

824
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: at the old guard and hoping that maybe some new

825
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: featherweight contenders would emerge. Ilia Toputia seemingly would have a

826
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: lot of leverage right now. He was a pretty fucking

827
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: big star before he went out and did what he

828
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: did against the all timer Alexander Volkanowski. And if anybody

829
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: has seen what his life has held since, you can

830
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: understand that superstar status has already been attained. So yeah,

831
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think to your point, Jay, certain champions

832
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: have more leverage than others when it comes to the

833
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: next in line or opposition. But I think it stands

834
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: to reason that he's gonna fight one of the names

835
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: that you just mentioned and he will have no problem

836
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: Ken Flow signing on the dotted line for that. Absolutely.

837
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, can you name another fighter that has

838
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: walked out in the center pitch of a real Madrid

839
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: game to be honored as a chance Like that's insane.

840
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: I guess that would. That'd be the equivalent of like

841
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: maybe walking out in the Yankees a Red Sox game

842
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: to be like, Hi, I'm a champion of the UFC.

843
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Quesh hu. This is massive, massive stuff.

844
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, I do think he has a say, even

845
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: though he's a fresh champion. I do think he'll have

846
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: a massive saying it. I also think he's playing head

847
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: games with all of the guys that he's mentioning, and

848
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: he's doing two things. First of all, I think that

849
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: he's getting all those guys to talk about him and

850
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: get ticked off. And they also think that he's leaning

851
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: towards a potential rematch against Volkanowski.

852
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: Because if I'm.

853
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: Topouria, I would be saying I'd much rather their facebolk

854
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: Andofski going off two knockouts in a row, then let

855
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: him recover or have another win in between. I want

856
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: this guy at his lowest low And then maybe that's

857
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: what Jaboio wants as well.

858
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: So John, I don't know if we have more time here, Ron,

859
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: get in there real quick. Eliot to Portia, who does

860
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: he have next in your mind? Rematch?

861
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I see that. I mean, well you think

862
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: about it like Max, I would like to see him

863
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: fight Max Holloway, because if Max would bring the fight

864
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: to him, you know he would. But yep, I mean

865
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to fight Max Holloway either. So I mean,

866
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: if you're gonna why not take the guy you just

867
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: took out? You just said he's at two holes in

868
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: a row. If it's a quick return, I mean how

869
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: fast they could they actually go to Spain this year?

870
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: Is that a real thing or this just like.

871
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: You try to put it.

872
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm saying, isn't like the

873
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: scheduled donn or is that does that change for a

874
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: new market like that? Could they do that? Fuck it?

875
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: I know they could. That's a stupid question form if

876
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: if they did that rematch and that was the reason out,

877
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean vocally, you know him, he'll take it tomorrow.

878
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: That guy don't care. But to Portia, man, this guy

879
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: is James Bond. Dude. He is He is a good

880
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: looking dude and he is living the life before he

881
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: became the jamp And.

882
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: Now well, yeah, guys, I'd like to see new Blood

883
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: if it's up to me, and then let vulcresk and

884
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: then him take the winner, quick John, if we have time,

885
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: a quick one out of each of you. You fight

886
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: at UFC three hundred, you're most looking forward to? And

887
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: I'll say, because Sweet Dreams, my boy, it's absolutely the

888
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: main event for me to see Sweet Dreams. Shut everybody up,

889
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: flow UFC three hundred. As of this moment, which way

890
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: you're looking forward to most?

891
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: I'll scroll through this car and I'm like, damn, there's

892
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: not one bad fight, not even They're all great fights.

893
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: John Wayley competing. But for me, dude, it's Geechee in Holloway. Yeah,

894
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: for me, it's Gategy in Holloway.

895
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: Right.

896
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: These are two badass dudes going at it who always

897
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: fight the same way.

898
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're gonna get.

899
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna go at it and gonna give us a

900
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 3: great one, certainly a classic there.

901
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: The MFL big Ron Quick UFC three hundred, which one

902
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: you're looking forward to most.

903
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Sweet dreams of all the time, same as your bro.

904
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that fight.

905
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Gotta be John. You probably can't say anything you want

906
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: to give us an early prelim. Well, if you were

907
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: listening earlier, I talked about Charles du Bronx, Olivera and

908
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: Arman Surugian, but some selective listening clearly from me the

909
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: second arriving twin. I'll just say though, in terms of

910
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: Charles Olivera and his greatness. When I hold the fan

911
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: base recently or at least my following as to their

912
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: favorite UFC fighter, overwhelmingly it was Charles du Bronx Olivera

913
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: and John Jones and Dustin Pourier and others. But the

914
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: amount of fan agulation and adoration for Charles Olivera, who's

915
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: only lost one time since twenty seventeen, is just absurd,

916
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: And yet half the fan base thinks Arman Sarurugian, who

917
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: fought Isla Makashev in his UFC debut, is the best

918
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: lightweight in the world. So Charles Olivera versus Arman Saragian

919
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: is as big a fight for the real fans as

920
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: we can together. And I'll get you guys out of

921
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: here on this marching to Bora's haircut right Ron, you're

922
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: considering going to Turkey to get a hair transplant? Is

923
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: that accurate?

924
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: No?

925
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if I was gonna, i'd go to the best,

926
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: and I'm supposedly the best.

927
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: But you got a handsome fish your head.

928
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, its to.

929
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: Be dope, that guy.

930
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: He looks like Road Warrior mad Max with that Like

931
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: what was that that?

932
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: I actually think it's the lesser of certain evils though, yeah,

933
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: like the lesser of two evils in the octagon. Did you,

934
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: I mean, did you like Ti three Voss's do? Like,

935
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: thank god, I don't have anything close to that anymore. No,

936
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: thank you, and then getting choked out yikes, bam, bam,

937
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: just yikes, Hey, John, are we not talking NC double

938
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: A at all. We're just talking to Bora's haircut. We're

939
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: going to give you a pick for the tournament or

940
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: what certainly tournament action begins in earnest on Thursday. If

941
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: you have a selection, we will take a national champion.

942
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: Who do you have? Yeah, unless you want to talk

943
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: about Martine Tubor so you know, I just want to say,

944
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: everybody loves Yukon for those of you that follow follow

945
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: college basketball, everybody loves Yukon. Even Yukon Verse perdue in

946
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: the championship game. So I'm gonna give you some a

947
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: little off the beaten Pat Kelvin Sampson right, been around

948
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: for a long time, Houston right. They've lost only eighteen

949
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: games in four years under this guy, Final four the

950
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: first year Elite eight to second year Sweet sixteen last year.

951
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: So going backwards, you would say, I think they're a

952
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: little bit due. But John, if you're not going to

953
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: talk about your Connecticut action, have you forgotten that you

954
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: placed it that very early on? Two hundred and fifty

955
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: yields twenty two fifty plus nine hundred on the Yukon Huskies.

956
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: They're a huge favorite. Four to one right now. But

957
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm going with Houston. Your son Hunter wishes you went

958
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: with Houston back in the day. So Big Ron, if

959
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: you have to pick on NCAA tournament, I'm just going

960
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: to get a little bit against the chalk there.

961
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll throw a little uh and me son

962
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: a huge dog. And I think about how about Creighton?

963
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: How about Creighton out of nowhere, I gotta feel and

964
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna make the final four. They got a weak

965
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: breck against Houston.

966
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Houston's five to one. I don't know,

967
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: Creyton probably better other than that.

968
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: But I have money, bro, I'm just saying for the dogs. Bro. Listen,

969
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 2: merch madness. It's in the title.

970
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: There you go, Jason and Big Ron Pellegrino. You can

971
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: follow those guys at Big Ron Bets at Boston, and

972
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, uh taking part in our ufc RON

973
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: table and uh have a great fucking rest of your day. Jay,

974
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: you can ge drinking all day. I mean, jesus, what

975
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: do you mean, see you guys? What do you mean

976
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: I'll stay? Oh no, no, no, no, no, what do

977
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: you mean, what do you mean? No hard today? I think?

978
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 1: Is that what you want. Isn't that what you want?

979
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: Hey?

980
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: Hey, you want me to go?

981
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: You want me to go?

982
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: I think you, I think to wil two box this

983
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: thing and you guys can get off the rest of Ron.

984
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: Great to see your face. You look good, you got

985
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: some color, hair, looks good. We gotta go you guys,

986
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: Good boys. Later, boys, All right, Jason and Ron Pellegrino

987
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: joining us for some shenanigans towards uh, towards the end

988
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: of the program. Man, and I'm just happy that there's

989
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: going to be a UFC Fight Night this weekend, and

990
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: hopefully the hairstyle will not be my leads story. Thank

991
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Speaker 1: you to Trey Ogden, Richard Lee Ogden, the third joining

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Speaker 1: us today on the Anticon flor And podcast. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Big Ron, Thanks to Jason, Thanks to Ken Flow, our

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Speaker 1: Until then, have a great day, to better evening, an

1004
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Speaker 1: amazing weekend. We'll talk to you next Monday. Until then,

1005
00:46:43,719 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: go late. He's like when you can roast.

1006
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: He's a luck. There's me, the soap to the breath.

1007
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: He's gone bread.

1008
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: He's gone bread.

1009
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: Lay its oppressious to the method.

1010
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: You can't keep your hands on the box the open.

1011
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: He's gone red.

1012
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 5: He's gone red.

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Speaker 1: He's going