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Speaker 1: Where are you with your punt returner at this point?

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Speaker 2: What do you look at as your as your primary options?

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Speaker 3: Obviously Gunner and who else after that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have Gunner and Isaiah who have done it

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Speaker 4: in this league. You know, when I'm judging UH these

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Speaker 4: guys in the preseason, the biggest thing is I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at practice, all our preseason games, their history. But those

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Speaker 4: two guys have obviously done it at a high level

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Speaker 4: in this league. So you know, I'm gonna give those

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Speaker 4: guys opportunities to show me what they could do.

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Speaker 1: It was it about Isaiah that makes them a good returner?

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Speaker 4: Well, again, the experience in this league is is UH

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Speaker 4: is huge. You know, being in those situations, being in

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Speaker 4: weather games, those things all factor into you know, the comfort,

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Speaker 4: comfort of having a return that's going to make smart

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Speaker 4: decisions and everything. You know, Isaiah works his tail off

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Speaker 4: and so does Gunner. That that whole group does a

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Speaker 4: heck of a job in terms of being intentional and

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Speaker 4: deliberate with everything we're asking them to do. So I'm

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Speaker 4: excited for those guys. Both those guys get more reps.

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Speaker 3: You chuck last time. But some of the vets that

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Speaker 3: are like leaders of the special Theaters group. What young

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Speaker 3: players have jumped out on the kicking game to you.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's hard to single any of them out,

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Speaker 4: and I know that's maybe not the answer you're looking for.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think our staff has done a heck

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Speaker 4: of a job in terms of assembling a great group

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Speaker 4: of young players and all those guys, like I said,

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Speaker 4: look to the veterans of how is it supposed to

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Speaker 4: be done? And when you have that veteran leadership, those

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Speaker 4: guys believe that is the only way it's supposed to

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Speaker 4: be done. So that's why it's it's incredible having those

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Speaker 4: older guys in the room. So all those young guys legitimately,

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Speaker 4: like I have no knock on any of them, They're

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Speaker 4: very intentional and deliberate. They're trying to learn, they're always

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Speaker 4: asking questions. It's hard for me to point one single

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Speaker 4: person out, but for the majority of them, they're they're

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Speaker 4: all looking to continuously get better, and that's where're having

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Speaker 4: those veterans in the room really help.

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Speaker 5: Gunner had a history a ball security issue before he

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Speaker 5: came here, and last year he did not. So when

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Speaker 5: you say experience are so important, you look at that

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Speaker 5: and say well, these fix that so I don't have

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Speaker 5: to worry about that, or you look at the whole

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Speaker 5: breast of someone's history.

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Speaker 4: I think whenever you're dealing with any veteran, the biggest

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Speaker 4: thing for those guys is they got to self scout themselves.

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Speaker 4: What if they put on tape? What are things that

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Speaker 4: they've had challenges with? What are some things they got

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Speaker 4: to bring more attention to. In terms of coaching, you're

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Speaker 4: always coaching the fundamentals of owning the football and taking

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Speaker 4: care of the football. I know that's important to him

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Speaker 4: is to make sure he's always putting that ball away

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Speaker 4: and making smart decisions with it. So that's something we

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Speaker 4: harp on with all our returns or all our ball

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Speaker 4: carriers and making sure they own the football. The one

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Speaker 4: thing I always challenge all our veterans is can they

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Speaker 4: look at themselves and truly find one part of their

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Speaker 4: And that's something I want them to share with me

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Speaker 4: to where I can make sure they're holding their end

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Speaker 4: of the bargain In terms of that as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hasn't played my special teams in his career. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how important do you think that'll be for him to

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Speaker 3: jett a spot. And what have you seen from him

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Speaker 4: In terms of the you know, obviously the roster big

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Speaker 4: picture of that. That's not something necessarily that you know

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Speaker 4: I can speak to, but I will say that Isaiah

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Speaker 4: is a guy that has played ball in this league

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Speaker 4: and has been very involved in all the drill work,

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Speaker 4: all the positions, and he got some special teams reps.

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Speaker 4: He's done it before in his career. Maybe not to

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Speaker 4: the same magnitude of some other guys in terms of volume,

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Speaker 4: but he is He's great in terms of just approaching

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Speaker 4: the game the right way, and obviously his experience as

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Speaker 4: a receiver also helps them in certain situations. Honor units,

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Speaker 4: and that's a thing that you know, I got to

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Speaker 4: handle with my job is just making sure he understands, well,

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Speaker 4: this is the similarities to what you're already doing. Let's

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Speaker 4: do this in this spot when we're asking to do

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Speaker 4: this on Koar for example, or whatever unit that may be.

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Speaker 4: In your.

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Speaker 2: Meetings with us and across the league, people have talked

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Speaker 2: about well, after the first week of the preseason, we'll

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Speaker 2: have a better sense of what the kickoff is going

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Speaker 2: to look like, did it have the appropriate reaction for

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Speaker 2: you what you watched? Did you see what you saw?

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Speaker 4: There? A lot of surprises absolutely where you're at, Absolutely

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Speaker 4: it did. It was so number one. It was so

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Speaker 4: cool with this new rule to see. You know, obviously

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Speaker 4: all thirty two teams come up with their own little

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Speaker 4: certain things that you saw them coaching their players to do,

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Speaker 4: because in your mind, well, obviously, when you're game planning

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Speaker 4: and you're looking at what is the best way we

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Speaker 4: can coach this, you know, sometimes you can't always put

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Speaker 4: yourself in somebody else's shoes because you haven't seen what

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Speaker 4: they've done yet. So when you have that volume of games, now,

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Speaker 4: we watched literally every single game, every single play, multiple times,

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Speaker 4: and we studied it just like we studied the XFL tape.

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Speaker 4: It was great to finally see our rule come into

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Speaker 4: play because of the little nuances and changes that the

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Speaker 4: NFL implemented with our kick off and kick off return.

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Speaker 4: So it was great. And that's one thing, you know,

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Speaker 4: I promised our players as soon as we get a

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Speaker 4: volume of plays that we can show you, we're going

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Speaker 4: to show you and we're going to make technique tapes.

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Speaker 4: We're going to show you situations that you may be in.

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Speaker 4: We're going to show you why we're doing this this way.

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Speaker 4: We're going to show you, Oh, this is something we'll

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Speaker 4: laugh to tweak. So it's great that we finally had

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Speaker 4: a good crop of plays to show guys. And I

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Speaker 4: have a smile on my face because there's a little

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Speaker 4: bit more certainty. You know, there's some conviction in terms

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Speaker 4: of some things that we're teaching that we're excited about

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Speaker 4: with our players. And then now you're starting to hear

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Speaker 4: players more interactive in our meetings. So when these players

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Speaker 4: ultimately were gathering information, there were some things that they

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Speaker 4: were given back, but ultimately, until they practiced the play

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Speaker 4: were able to play that play, they could say, oh,

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Speaker 4: this is what we got to do here. Oh this

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Speaker 4: coaching points, you know, I give him the keys to it. Okay,

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Speaker 4: coach me up on this guy. What didn't he do?

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Speaker 4: What did he do well? Why was he in position

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Speaker 4: to give that information back.

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Speaker 1: But even with all that, even with all that new

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Speaker 1: data that you now have, isn't it also true though

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Speaker 1: that the teams have figured out fast are gonna have

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Speaker 1: an advantage two or three years from now, everybody's going

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Speaker 1: to know the nuances the first couple of weeks of

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Speaker 1: regular season. You guys are still kind of figuring this out,

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Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent. I think that with any play, though,

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Speaker 4: you know, you're you're always looking at trying to gain

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Speaker 4: advantages and being able to adapt and evolve, especially with

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Speaker 4: this play being new. But at least there's more volume

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Speaker 4: of plays that we could look at to where some

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Speaker 4: of those principles that we're teaching on kickoff, kickoff return

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Speaker 4: we could feel more convicted about. Ultimately, we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: to evolve, and you know, it's gonna be great to

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Speaker 4: see more plays this week, and then one we figure

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Speaker 4: going to continue to evolve this play until we are

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Speaker 4: extremely happy with the product, Like the last few years

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Speaker 4: being on the other side of Jeff Giants joint practice

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Speaker 4: or preseason and are you looking forward to facing them

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Speaker 4: next week? Well, you know, obviously, I have a lot

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Speaker 4: of great relationships with players and coaches that are still

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Speaker 4: in that building. You know, I've always had tremendous respect

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Speaker 4: for the Giants organization. It's so cool to be here

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Speaker 4: with the New New York Football Giants. And then, you know, again,

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Speaker 4: I say it with a smile on my face because

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, I have one of the greatest

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Speaker 4: jobs in America. I do, and I'm so happy that

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Speaker 4: I'm here. The nature of this league is you cross

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Speaker 4: paths with people that you've coached with, that you've played with,

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Speaker 4: So it's it's going to be exciting to see those guys,

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Speaker 4: but ultimately, like I'm so excited to just be here

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Speaker 4: and be with the guys and develop relationships here