1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: The single best idea on an important twenty four hours 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: for America. Of course, at four pmsh this afternoon, the 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: President of the United States, we'll come up with a 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: hugely anticipated adjustment to how we speak on trade to 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: our international friends, romans, countrymen, enemies as well. It is 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: called trade. It will be fascinating and we'll dive into 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: that the specifics of it tomorrow. What we did today. Tomorrow, 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: I should say we have Douger went On from Dartmouth, 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: who's definitive on the American history of trade. We started 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: strong today with Justin Wolfers at the University of Michigan, 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: but first off of a terrific op ed in the 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: New York Times over the weekend. I'll try to get 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: that out on Twitter and LinkedIn today. Jason Furman here 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: Furman of Harvard on this moment for America. 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I'd add a longer term one, which is geopolitics. The 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: United States is a big, important country. It is not 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: infinitely big, It is not infinitely important. China is also 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: a really, really big player in the world. The only 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: way we can confront China is by doing it together 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: with allies, and if we alienate our allies. There's a 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: lot more countries that trade more with China than with 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: the United States. We're just going to push that further 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: and help realign global geopolitics away from the US alliance 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: and towards a Chinese entant. 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: Jason Furman, of course, he studied with Martin Feldstein at 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Harvard years and years ago. Someone else out of the 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: past of Harvard. Justin Wolfers is a kid in Sydney, Australia, 29 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: did better than good in school and parachuted into Harvard. 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: He had the honor of a PhD there with a 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: giant Alberto Elisina and Olivier Blanchard, which is just an 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: extraordinary PhD. Experiments Professor Blanchard were trying to get on. 33 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: He's been on fire about this trade debate. He's without 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: imposing at the Peterson Institute. Here is Justin Wolfers of 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: Australia in the University of Michigan on this American moment. 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: Two insights I've gotten from talking to folks around the world. One, 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: the entire world is looking at this, and the entire 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: world is worried about this. It's the front page of 39 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: the Aussie newspapers and in Canada it's been the front 40 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: page for several weeks now, so they're terrified. Now let 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: me tell you what I tell the Aussies. There's eight 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: billion people in the world. Trump is effectively taking three 43 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: hundred and forty million of them and isolating them from 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: the rest of the world. So what that means for 45 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: the Aussies is there's still seven point six six billion 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: people left to trade with. It's the Americans that this 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: is really going to hurt, and in some sense for 48 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: a small country like Australia, this may be opening up opportunities. 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: The folks who are no longer going to be selling 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: to the US or buying from the US are going 51 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: to be looking for trading partners elsewhere, trusted trading partners, 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: and that's what the Aussies are. 53 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: Justin Wilfers the University of Michigan will continue this story 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: on international relations it's effect on economics, finance and investment 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: in the coming hours and days, as well on YouTube 56 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: podcasts across the nation around the world. Is a single 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: best idea