1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Let's get to our guest, Nicole Web, Senior vice president, 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: financial advisor at Wealth Enhancement Group. Nicole, simple question, do 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: you expect to enhance the wealth of your clients? So 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: for the next couple of quarters. I should have known 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: that that was how you would lead into this. You know, Um, 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of headwind uh in everyone's face, especially 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: in the first quarter of next year. And so since 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: you ask the question in the first couple of quarters 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: of next year, UM, you know, I think there's a 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: lot of data there. The labor market still gives me that, 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, chance of a recession not being that terrible, 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: not being that deep, not going that far. Um. But 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: as we continue to hear news like we did from 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Goldman today, Um, you know that may very well shift 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: the dynamics of the market and kind of that support 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: you're seeing from the labor market, Well, it's it's amazing 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: that what the economy is getting from the navor market. 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: And tell me, you know, how does that play into 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: the whole narrative of monetary tightening and how that is 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: really showing any efficacy? Yeah, is yes. So so if 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: we think about it this way, there's you know, really 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: three factors that have hit the labor market hard in 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: terms of creating such a robust and strong labor market, 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: which led to this wage inflation that we're still seeing. 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: That's perhaps the most persistent measure, whether it's directly wage 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: inflation or just the services end of inflation. UM. You know, 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: those primary factors are you know, we changed border and 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: immigration policy back in sen and that's that's had a 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: long run way now, escalated of course by shutdowns prompted 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: by COVID, UM, the mass exodus of of the plus 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: year olds UM, you know, accelerating their retirement UM. And 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: then of course the death toll of COVID. So when 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: you put all of that together, you know, the labor 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: market is in a very different position. Then you stack 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: on top of it the access and autonomy and accessibility 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: of the gig labor market. You know, so the consumer 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: is pretty competent that they're not going to starve, and 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: that's a very different mindset. And I think part of 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: kind of this soft landing narrative is, you know, does 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: the FED pause for too long or get overly restrictive 41 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: and the layoffs are like a domino effect that crashes, right, 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: So they all start to fall, and that that comment 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: resonates with something I heard she La Besay, someone who 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: has been both prominent in the private sector and also 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: working with government agencies, UH, that she believes that the 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: FED is going too far, that it needs to pause 47 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: now and or maybe just do twenty five basis points 48 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: at the next meeting to see the impact of this, 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: because otherwise, when you see what's happening in in the 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: housing market and UH, and the potential with labor that 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: it could you know, they could be going too far. Yeah, 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: and whether it's you know, yes, absolutely, I agree with 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: everything you've just said. And I think that's where we 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: are hopeful, you know, of perhaps a sooner pause. And 55 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: I think we're hopeful that the data starts to trickle 56 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: through to the FED in their observation of that they 57 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: have to pause sooner rather than later, that this terminal 58 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: rate around five percent is about as far as they 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: can go, because I think inflation is going to surprise 60 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: to the downside, meaning not as supply chain really normalizes itself. Um, 61 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: what does inflation look like? And do we really want 62 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: to pull the levers to bring in demand destruction down 63 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: to an inflationary level that perhaps you don't really need 64 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: and meaning that two percent targets. So, Um, you know, 65 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot. I think the first couple of 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: quarters are to be extremely volatile. On a lot hangs on, 67 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, some of this evidence or data to support 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: if we've gone far in Africa one too far, so 69 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: we get that pass, Nicole. I mean, you know, with 70 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: the new name of your company, the Wealth Preservation Group, 71 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: we're looking at essentially staying away from companies like Tesla. 72 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at this, it may have 73 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: seen you know, how to bounce up of course in 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: the in the last session, but it's been on the way. 75 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Dan is in a terrible year. But you know you're 76 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: looking at a market cap here bigger than GM, Volkswagen, Ford, 77 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Mercedes et cetera, and BM doub all put together. You 78 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: gotta ask yourself here. You know, as Brian was wunning 79 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: out yesterday, we got, you know, still a pe of 80 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight times earnings. Right. I love Tesla. I 81 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: have loved Tesla for years. Um, you know, I don't 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: like where the stock price got to. I love the 83 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: conversation or U of you know, should we think about 84 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: Tesla as an automaker, or should we think about Tesla 85 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: as a tech company And where is that fair valuation point? 86 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Because yes, growth is great, but I would argue it 87 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: should have never absolutely never been where it was. And 88 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: but I do think at a hundred dollars, I mean, 89 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: I love it, UM. But what I think where Tesla 90 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: is missing the market is, you know, they are not 91 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: taking strategic action to execute on the long term vision 92 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: that makes us believe in the long term growth. Right, 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: So I think we're all hopeful, you know, open the 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: plant in India, open a battery UM factory in India, 95 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: show us that you are taking action, break around, you know, 96 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: give us the longevity belief. And I think that's where 97 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people are pointing blame to um Elon's 98 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: shift towards a focus on Twitter away from execution UM 99 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, on Tesla's vision in long term trajectory. Let's 100 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Asia. I'm not sure what 101 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: your thoughts are on China. China has you know, made 102 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: this big move kind of chaotic in a sense right 103 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: at the time when cases a surging, it's opening up. 104 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, you can look at it from a lot 105 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: of different ways. It adds to global GDP, maybe it 106 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: adds to inflation, and maybe it adds to COVID cases. 107 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: So how do you dissect that? Yeah, I think so 108 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: in this moment, you know, taking a step away from 109 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: the conversation about the reopening trade in China, but more 110 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: from a global perspective, what does China's reopening mean? And 111 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: I think for many people, why does it have such 112 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: an impact on the global equity markets as a whole, 113 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: And that for us really plays into the global consumption 114 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: of oil, and oil already being such a contentious point 115 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: through most of two and you know, as we think 116 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: about a full and robust reopening of China, we think 117 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: about a normalization because we were far from it of 118 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: the global consumption, and and that plays into kind of 119 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: again this earning story on a go forward basis, because 120 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: if we see a spike again in crude as an example, 121 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: then you know where there was margin in terms of 122 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: transportation costs coming down as one example, that affects the 123 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: bottom line and the trajectory of that earnings growth or 124 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: the lack thereof. And so that's a lot of this 125 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: initial repricing outside of course, just kind of what the 126 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: Chinese markets are doing as we think about their reopening 127 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: up quickly. Here, Nicole, if you had to pick an 128 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: asset class, and within that asset class, what would you 129 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: really be your in conviction looking into Yeah, my main 130 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: conviction looking into three is um kind of probably more broad, 131 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: and it's that, you know, everyone is saying the same thing, 132 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: that short term rates are giving equity so much in 133 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: terms of competition. But I fundamentally believed that the the 134 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: the expectation should be that the market responds once we pause, 135 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: and that the ease is coming. Alright, Nicole, out of time, 136 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: but an interesting thought to finish on. Nicole web Senior 137 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: vice president, Financial advisor, Wealth Enhancement Group,