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Speaker 1: One more. I love it when Michael leads the podcast. No, yes,

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Speaker 1: just take the pill, you said, do tell. I am intrigued.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I've been trying to get healthy along with

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Speaker 2: Good for you doing It's almost every day now, so

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Speaker 1: What do you mostly do yourself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, cardio and then a waits a few.

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Speaker 1: Days a week. What's your cardio of choice?

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Speaker 2: We're doing the recumbent bike.

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Speaker 1: It's a recumbent bike. I do not even know.

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Speaker 2: Basically, it's a sit down bicycle. Okay, So I'm doing

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Speaker 2: that and I do about forty five minutes to an hour.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Joe. Joe might know the answer to this because

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Speaker 1: he does a lot of exercise. What what is? Because

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Speaker 4: It's easier on your prostate for one thing, I don't

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Speaker 1: So you get all the benefits of the peddling without

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Speaker 1: And you got to build up from that, use that

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Speaker 2: I can do treadmill anymore because of the ulster that

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Speaker 4: Label this podcast? Joe disavows. It's the matter with you people.

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Speaker 2: That's what this is about. Actually, I was asking my wife.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's what I told you is an excellent point,

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Speaker 4: You're giving your hard earned paycheck to the drug. But

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Speaker 1: Somebody's like, oh ozempic right, all of them. Also, you

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Speaker 4: a mother's little helpers. The Rolling Stones put it so entertaining. Yeah, dabble,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife asked me if she said, if that

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Speaker 3: I'm giving you the look and I'm not your wife.

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Speaker 4: Is this the show that airs after the Bachelorette or something?

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Speaker 4: It's starting to get that feel.

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Speaker 1: You didn't at any point say break me off a

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Speaker 2: I like what we're doing, and we're gonna keep doing

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Speaker 2: what we're doing, and I like doing it as a couple.

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Speaker 2: So that's that was my answer to her.

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Speaker 1: No, that was that last part. Now, that was some

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Speaker 1: good relationship talk, right there. A couple, that's that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a yeah, that's for the win.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's it.