1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa Mouth part of the game. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: So I want you the audience to know that before 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: we get to this next episode. It was recorded on Wednesday, 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: August before bombs went off in Afghanistan that have left 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: American citizens dead, Afghans dead. We're going to do the 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: best we can to bring you timely and important interviews 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: about what's going on in Afghanistan the best we can. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: But I just want to let you know that our prayers, 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: our thoughts, our hearts go out to the family members 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: who have lost loved ones. It is gut wrenching, it 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: is a tragedy. Please pray for our country, and please 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: pray for the folks who have now lost a brother, 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: a sister, a son, a father, a husband. Please pray 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: for America. Ye, welcome back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: One issue I'm really interested in, well one, most importantly, 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: let's get our Americans out of Afghanistan. We need an 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: administration to president that has the will to get Americans 18 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: out of Afghanistan. And secondly, never forgive this president who 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: left Americans behind in the first place. It's a disgrace, 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: it's despicable, it is a stain on the Biden administration. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: We should never forgive him, never let them forget it. Now, 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: the question is also heading into as we're already seeing 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Afghan refugees touchdown in America, they're not gonna be able 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: to get deported. What does that process look like? What 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: should you know about all of this? Uh? This week, 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: for this show, I've got Steven Miller, who you all 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: know as a top advisor to President Trump. He was 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: a senior advisor on policy as well as worked on 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: speechwriting for the Trump administration or President Trump, and right 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: now he's also leading a group called America First Legal 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: focusing on some of the big legal issues we're facing, 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: pushing back against the left on some of the terrible 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: policies they're trying to implement right here in America. And 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna get to today. We're going 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: to talk about what are the consequences of bringing tens 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: of thousands of people you cannot vet here to the 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: United States when you also have an open southern border, 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: when you have a wide open southern border. So we're 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: gonna get into all of this today, and it is 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: my pleasure to welcome Stephen Miller to the show. Stephen, 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining the Truth with Lisa Booth. 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Thank you glad to be here. You know, Stephen, we 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: look at these numbers and literally only five percent of 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: the people who have been evacuated from Afghanistan or from 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: the United States are Americans. Yet we have evacuated tens 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: of thousands of Afghan refugees. Hy isn't they bid administration 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: prioritizing Americans. Well, part of the reason for that is 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: because not nearly enough pressure hasn't placed on them to 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: prioritize Americans. You know, from the beginning, the message from Washington, 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: d C. Was not get Americans out first. I was 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: frankly astonished to see that there wasn't more of an 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: emphasis on that point from Congress, from people in Washington, 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: D C. And so the Bidom administration felt like it 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: could get away with just bringing out generalized refugees about 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: any priority or any epistus on Americans, which fit neatly 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: with their ideological objectives of ramping up refugee resettlement. Right, 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: because the backdrop to this is that the Bidom administration 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: terminated President Trump's curbs on refugee resettlement, his travel bands, 59 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: and his other defenses against importing radical Jihadaism and other 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: terrorist threats into the United States. So there's a belief 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: inside the Bidom administration, it's very intentional that it's a 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: good thing for America to have as many refugees as 63 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: possible from war torn regions all over the world. And 64 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: this goes back to the Obama administration, although it's it's 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: much more radical now in the Bidom administration. But you 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: may were calling the Obama administration after he drew the 67 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: failed Red Line in Syria, and the general policy of 68 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the Obama administration helped to precipitate all manner of atrocities 69 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: or to enable all manner of atrocities in Syria. There's 70 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: a big push by Obama to resettle massive numbers of 71 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Syrian refugees into the United States, and at the time, 72 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Republicans understood that that represented an unconscionable risk to our 73 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: national security and that it made a lot more sense 74 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: to resettle refugees from Syria in other countries. When President 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Trump came into office, we basically suspended most Syrian refugee 76 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: resettlement and we prioritized resettlement in other countries, for example, 77 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: in places like Jordan's and other areas in the Middle 78 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: East where we've had success in placing Syrian fugees and 79 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: other refugees. That's better for the refugees because it's easier 80 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: from an integration standpoint, and it's certainly better for the 81 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: United States of America for both the security and financial standpoint. 82 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: But that's all the ideological backdrop for what you're seeing today. Now. 83 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: One of the important point on this is that there 84 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: are Republicans who have, along obviously with Democrats, who have 85 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: made the argument that we need to evacuate our Afghan allies. Now, 86 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot that I would have to say on 87 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: that subject. But here's the thing, Lisa, even by those 88 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: own terms, Joe Biden isn't doing what people think he's doing. 89 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: In other words, the people on those airplanes are not, 90 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: by and large anybody who have had any substantive or 91 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: meaningful involvement in the US war effort. The all of 92 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: my sources, some of whom um are very well placed 93 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: in the US government, are all unanimous in stating at 94 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: the vast majority of those being evacuated would not even 95 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: be eligible under a proper evaluation for what is known 96 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: as a special immigrant visa, which is the controversial program 97 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: over the last twenty years has brought about a hundred 98 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: thousand people out of Syria, sorry, out of Iraq and 99 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: Afghanistan to the United States who performs some form of 100 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: government service. But again, it doesn't it doesn't matter because 101 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: even if that is your position, even if you are 102 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: a member of Congress who's saying you want to evacuate uh, 103 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: the special immigrant visa holders, That's not what the Body 104 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: administration is doing. They're just randomly pooling Afghans who can 105 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: just manage to get to the airport with the Taliban's blessing. 106 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: That's the extent of the selection process that's currently happening. 107 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: And again and the vast majority of cases. And the 108 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: last thing I'll say about this is, do you really 109 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: think the people that we want the most, but that 110 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: we would want the most out of the country for 111 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: any reason, are the people the Taliban is letting through 112 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: to the airport. I mean, let's use common sense here. 113 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: The the vast, vast, vast majority of people that are 114 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: getting to the airport are getting to the airport because 115 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: the Taliban is allowing them to get to the airport. 116 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: That should really tell you everything you need to know. Actually, 117 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: that's a really great point. I have not heard anyone 118 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: make that, uh you know, I mean, there's so many 119 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: different layers to this. You're talking about the special immigrant visas. Basically, 120 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: the position of the media and the left and the 121 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: way this has been couched is as you were saying, 122 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: the only people that we're letting through the people that 123 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: were evacuating are the special immigrant visa holders that somehow 124 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: uh you know, these are the people that were translators 125 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: or fought alongside us. But we know that's not true. 126 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean, since two thousand seven when the special immigrant 127 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: visas for translators started, until March, there's only been less 128 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: than seven fifty people that have come to the United 129 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: States on that visa loan. Also, it is much more 130 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: broad than that. It can include uh you know, food server, 131 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: part of a government contractor I mean, the program is 132 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: so much larger even if you're just specifically talking about 133 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: the special immigrant visas. Correct, there, yes, So there's more 134 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: than right, there's there's not there's more than one Special 135 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: immigrant vistas and Congresses his tinger with it and expanded 136 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: it and adopted various iterations of it. And so you're 137 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: correct that the the narrower translator or interpreter program has 138 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: brought out comparatively fewer individuals when they created an additional 139 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: program that broadened it to include government workers in general. 140 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: In other words, people who are performing deliveries, who have 141 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, an office job at consulate, um, say you know, 142 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: helping to translate documents whatever may be there. Not people 143 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: who are going out on on convoys or what have you. Uh, 144 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: we use that broader category. Then that gets you to 145 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: um to a hundred thousand for both Iraq and Afghanistan 146 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: since the program was authorized. But but again that's not 147 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: even even under that incredibly broad definition. Uh, you know, 148 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: where somebody was a delivery driver who who would not 149 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: be considered a a sensitive contributor to the US war effort. Um, 150 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't even even under that very very loose definition. 151 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: That's not who is being evacuated in the vast majority 152 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: of cases. And I want to get into a little 153 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: bit more in a moment about what the evacuation processes 154 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: and why we should all be gravely concerned. But I 155 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: do think the SIV issue merits a a thoughtful conversation 156 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: for a moment. But again, it's kind of a misdirection, 157 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: because that's not who Biden is evacuating, buying and large. 158 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: In other words, they're not people who, in the normal 159 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: course of time would pass every level of screening and 160 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: every level of evaluation for a special immigrant visa. But 161 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: just for a moment on the special immigrant visa. The 162 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: United States has been at war in Afghanistan for twenty years. 163 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: We have spilled bud of thousands of American soldiers to 164 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: secure a Taliban free future. That was the mission at 165 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: the outset for the people of Afghanistan. The mission obviously 166 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: evolved over time, and many many war many many more 167 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: were gravely wounded in life altering ways in Afghanistan. So 168 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: we have left behind not only are best and our bravest, 169 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: but we've also brought home many who continue to bear 170 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: both the physical wounds of war and of course the 171 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: psychological wounds of war. We did that for them. We 172 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: were fighting for their future. There's many people in America 173 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: who think we should have never had that mission, but 174 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: we did. That was the mission that George Bush set 175 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: those soldiers out to fight. It is not correct to say, 176 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: just as a factual matter, that the that the the 177 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: people who were performing governmant jobs for it for the U. S. 178 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: Government during the occupation, for example, like a delivery driver 179 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: or somebody say providing a taxi service for it for 180 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: a diplomats. They we're fighting for us. It's their country 181 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: and their country's future. And in anything resembling a coherent 182 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: military occupation, the people that are supporting the U. S. 183 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Government should want to stay and build their own country's future. 184 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: The nation building mission was doomed from the beginning by 185 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: the fact that hundreds of thousands of people that we're 186 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: working with the U. S. Government in all manner of 187 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: position of contractors, etcetera, all wanted to get U screen 188 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: cards in US citizenship but ore but our military brass 189 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: and our foreign policy establishment was so dense and so 190 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: my opic they couldn't even understand. And I used to 191 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: raise this issue when I was in the Whitehouse just 192 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: as a philosophical proposition, not even a policy question. They 193 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: couldn't understand how the writing was on the wall for 194 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: the American occupation. If the people that were supposed to 195 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: be the the the core of our presence there by 196 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: the military zone in terms, didn't want to stay there, 197 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: how is that ever going to work? I could you 198 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: imagine if during the the American occupation um in stage Japan, 199 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: that the government policy was anybody who drives any American anywhere, 200 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: or provides any food service or delivery service or translation 201 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: service should be in a pipeline to leave Japan. It's 202 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: on a zone merits Now. Obviously, at this exact moment 203 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: in time, there are a there are a subset of 204 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: people who performed services for the U. S. Government in 205 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: deeper and more substantive ways that are in real danger. 206 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: But this is a very important point here. The reason 207 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: they are in danger is because of Joe Biden and 208 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: his imbecility surrendered all operational control in Afghanistan to the 209 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: Taliban pre evacuation. So we could have very very easily 210 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: under even if if ay you know, if use President 211 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Trump's example, even if a five year old child was 212 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: running this evacuation, we could have very easily pulled out 213 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: any high value asset first safetly relocated them to a 214 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: third country, and then had a U. S. Policy debate 215 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: where people could have argued their positions about whether they 216 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: thought they should come to America where they thought they 217 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: should the third country. And you know, you have your view, 218 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: I have my view, other people have a their view, 219 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: But the reality is that opportunity evaporated the instant the second, 220 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: the moment that Joe Budden pulled out the troops before 221 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: the evacuation. So it's important to be clear that a 222 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: single person who does, in fact face a threat from 223 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: the Taliban that we would have any foreign palsy interest 224 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: in removing, is in that situation solely because of Joe Budden, 225 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: and for that reason and that reason alone. But again, 226 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: this represents a minuscule, tiny fraction of the evacuation that's 227 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: taking place right now, which just pulling people out of 228 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Afghanistan whose sole criteria is they don't want to live 229 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. In a country of forty million people, you 230 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: might imagine there's a lot of people who think the 231 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: living in the United States of America and having access 232 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: to free healthcare and having access to free public housing 233 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: which you get as a refugee, is are than staying 234 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: in in Afghanistan. But it's going to serve our interests 235 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: as a country. And the last thing I'll say on 236 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: this point is that if we have any follow ups, 237 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: is that the the French have lived through this very 238 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: experiment and witnessed its failure in the most spectacular of fashions, 239 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: where they decolonized, they pulled uh their empire back, and 240 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: then they had open immigration for decades from their former colonies, 241 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: including from places that have very prevalent streams and Islamic extremism. 242 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: And we are now doing the same thing here in 243 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the United States. And and simplistic sound bites about passing 244 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: background ship insult the intelligence of the American people. And 245 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: I'll explain why briefly. If you're an Afghan national who 246 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: goes through a perfunctory back ground check, in other words, 247 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: not like a year and a half of betting like 248 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: we do for refugees, but just you get put in 249 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: the system, and you see what his. Most of these 250 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: people have no records at all. They have no doctor, 251 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: don't even have an Afghan Afghanistan passport. We're just a 252 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: mystery to us. And so some of them do, in 253 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: fact hit and have hit I've heard from my sources 254 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: on terrorism watch lists. But but others just have no record. 255 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: They are But here's but here's what logic and common 256 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: sense dictates. If you moved Afghan nationals from Afghanistan to 257 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: the United States of America, which is what the body 258 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: administrations in the problem. There will be a subset of 259 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: those people who, even if they're not members of terrorist organizations, 260 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: are ideologically sympathetic to radical jihadism, and that will create 261 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: the recruiting ground in our own country or terrorism like 262 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: happened in France for the situation. You know, if you 263 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: draw a cartoon of the of the prophet Muhammad, you 264 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: could face mortal peril. Those types of has become more 265 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: possible because of a policy like this. And finally, what 266 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: we've seen in France is it is it limited to 267 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: the first generation. When you have a very large group 268 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: of migrants and the assimilation process breaks down, the second 269 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: and third generation can get radicalized. So we're really heading 270 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: into dangerous territory here. And just to really underline the point, 271 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: isn't about humanitarian objectives. We could resettle ten times more 272 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: refugees for the exact same cost in countries in the 273 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Middle East and then Southeast Asia. This is a political 274 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: decision by the bad administration, not a humanitarian one. I 275 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: completely agree with what you said in you know, and 276 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: the thing that people don't and is even in a 277 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: perfect world, look, we saw blue and green attacks with 278 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: people who we thought we were friends, people who we 279 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: thought were vetted. Then the nine eleven hijackers came in 280 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: on a student visa, business tourism visas. This isn't even 281 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: in a perfect world where vetting takes place and you're 282 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: trying to do things right. Well, you're laying out is 283 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: we have chaos. We have an absolutely imperfect world. There's 284 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: been reports that blank visas were sent out to Afghans. 285 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: We don't know who, who who these people are that 286 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: are getting on fights, And it's not exactly like you 287 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: can just call up the Taliban and be like, hey, 288 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, I want to, you know, do a background 289 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: check with these people. We don't know who they are. 290 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: But the problem is they're already starting to touch base 291 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: here in the United States, and we were already getting 292 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: reports that people have touched down in Texas at Fort Bliss. Yeah. 293 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're already landing. So at this point, you're 294 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: not going to deport them, Like where would we send them? 295 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: So they're here on American soil. So I mean, what 296 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: this question how much vetting could have possibly occurred in 297 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: the several days between when they landed in for example, 298 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: Doha and it ended up in Dallas. I mean youth 299 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: common sense here the how I mean people, This isn't 300 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: a television show where we have these amazing, perfect, extraordinary 301 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: databases and we just run somebody's singer prints and it's like, oh, 302 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: they were born in this province, and they went to 303 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: school here, and they graduated here, and they have this. 304 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: They had that. We have anything resembling that. For every one, 305 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: for every one terrorist that we have biometrics for, there's 306 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: dozens hundreds that we don't. But but again, on top 307 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: of that, this is a very important point to underline 308 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: that people may not appreciate. The State's Department does not 309 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: do ideological screening for visas. They do not enquire about 310 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: your belief system. In other words, if you subscribe to 311 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: the tenants of Jihadaism that support the use of violence 312 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: for religious acts, those questions are not asked, they are 313 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: not answered, they are not addressed, and so you can 314 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: end up again with a situation like we've seen in 315 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: France and other European countries, where you create the conditions 316 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: for people to be recruited into terrorism. In the United States, 317 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: but it's not just terrorism, just from a quality of 318 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: life standpoint, I think most people would agree that you 319 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: want to have people immigrated this country who believe in 320 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: and embrace the tenets of American society, American customs, in 321 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: American habits, and nothing of that kind is screened for 322 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: at all in these sorts of selection processes, and so 323 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: you can end up in a dangerous and frankly irreversible situation. 324 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: And and to your point about in the best of 325 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: all possible worlds not being the case, we are indeed 326 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: in the worst of all possible worlds. You have people 327 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: being flown hour after hour out of Afghanistan to military bases, 328 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: then being put on planes to the United States, and 329 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: nobody really has any idea who most of these people are. 330 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: And so again it's not it's not just the fact that, 331 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: as you've pointed out, we've seen people we've worked with 332 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan commit violence against US troops, including fatal violence. 333 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: But but we have people here that we have absolutely 334 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: no record of it all, who in many cases every 335 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: even work with the government. It's just an indiscriminate, open 336 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: ended refugee resel in operation. And everyone that we bring 337 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: in who then if he gets a green card, then 338 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: becomes a citizen will have the ability to bring in 339 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: their their family, and then their family's family, and their 340 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: family's family onto the tenth degree, and so you create 341 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: a large and growing pull factor from that part of 342 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: the world into the United States, where there's really no 343 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: way of knowing who ultimately will come in. As a 344 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: result of that, we need to take a quick break 345 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: and then more on Afghan refugees with Stephen Millern. Now, 346 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: I think what makes me the angriest, Well, it makes 347 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: me the angriest is a fact that we have an 348 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: administration who seems comfortable with leaving Americans behind, because we 349 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: know that President Trump would have never done that. That 350 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: would have been a priority. We saw that throughout the 351 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: Trump administration. You saw at firsthand while working as a 352 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: senior advisor to the president. But take hostages and getting 353 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: hostages and detainees from around the world was a priority 354 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration. There's no way on God's green 355 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: Earth he would have left Americans behind. But what also 356 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: makes me angry is the Biden administration is trying to 357 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: tout and frame this as mission accomplished because of the 358 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: numbers that they're evacuating. They're saying, oh, well, we're evacuating 359 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: over eighty people when only five percent of those people 360 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: are Americans. So what discussed me is they're trying to 361 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: claim victory one for muss they created, and then too 362 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: for evacuating Afghan refugees not Americans. It's it's it's like, 363 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know what kind of country we're living 364 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: in right now. I've been stunned beyond the leaf to 365 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: see the administration try to take credit for the number 366 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: of random people it's extracted from Afghanistan, and though that 367 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: were the mission in the words, we have thousands of 368 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: Americans trapped behind Taliban lines and they want credit for well, 369 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: we think at the Americans, but we filled plans with 370 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: random people and we don't know who they are, but 371 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: we got them out. I mean, it's it's so offensive, 372 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: so insulting. It's also a complete and total violation of 373 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: the president's constitutional duty. Um it is it is truly 374 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: beyond imagination that we are going to leave, regardless of 375 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: whether or not we get the American citizens out, the 376 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: count it as a success that we've brought out again 377 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: random Afghan nationals who don't want to live in the country, 378 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: and and and and the reality is is that the 379 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Taliban is gonna have a hard time. They're gonna have 380 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: a hard time maintaining control over a unified country. We've 381 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: seen the civil wars in Afghanistan um in the nineties, 382 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: and especially because many Afghans have gotten used to, particularly 383 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: in the capital city, to a certain standard of living 384 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: under the American back government for the last a couple 385 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: of decades. It the Taliban's task of maintaining its grip 386 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: and control of the country will be made easier by 387 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: the United States pulling out of Afghanistan. Every person who 388 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: wants to leave, regardless of whether or not they're under 389 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: a particularized threat, regardless of whether or not they need 390 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: the legal definition of refugee, regardless whether or not the 391 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: work of the US government. I'm saying that as a 392 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: as a purely factual analytical matter, that the United States 393 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: is removing from the country the pressure and the and 394 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: the political and human capital that could still fight to 395 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: secure a better future for the people of Afghanistan. And 396 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: that's just a act. It doesn't bring me any pleasure 397 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: to say it. I'm not pretending that this is something 398 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: that's easy and it's not tragic, but it just happens 399 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: to be true. And one one point to really bring 400 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: this thing home is that nine eleven, as you mentioned earlier, 401 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: the murderous attacked by Islamic radicals was made possible because 402 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 1: the U. S. State Department granted visas to the Night 403 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: eleven hijackers. They were in the United States on the 404 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: permission of the U. S. Government, And of course the 405 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: US government didn't know at the time that they were 406 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: that they were terrorists, because at that moment in history, 407 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: our our vetting system was was in shambles. It was 408 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: a joke. And President Trump that extraordinary things which we 409 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: can talk about in another interview to enhance our vetting. 410 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is that are loose immigration 411 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: rules made it possible for the Nine eleven terrorists to 412 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: come into our country and commit this murderous atrocity. So 413 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: what a cruel and bitter irony that we now have 414 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: a president who has torn all the guardrails off our 415 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: immigration system, ignoring one of the principal lessons of nine eleven, 416 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: thereby making impossible for a for a long term threat 417 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: to the homeland because again, like Europe, we are going 418 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: to be bringing in not just from Afghanistan, but from 419 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: all over the region. You're going to be bringing in 420 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: massive numbers of people who will include many that are 421 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: hostile to the American way of life and thereby create 422 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: an opening for terrorism inside the United States. Totally. It 423 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: is a major concern, and it is one that is 424 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: not being recognized by most of the media. And I 425 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: really think what we're seeing with all this really crystallizes 426 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: the importance of America first and putting citizens first, and 427 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: also how diametrically opposed the left is to that concept, 428 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: and we we're literally seeing it in the most disgusting 429 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: terms play out of prioritizing non citizens over US citizens. 430 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, what's the likelihood that we get Americans out 431 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan by that August thirty one deadline that the 432 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Taliban has issued to Joe Biden and he is bowing 433 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: down to I think it's slim um. I mean, the 434 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: reality is that the bid administration is not going to 435 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: be transparent. They haven't been transparent how many Americans they evacuated. 436 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: They haven't been transparent about how many Americans are still 437 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: left behind. And so we're probably gonna be very reliant 438 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: on alternative media to get the truth about how many 439 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Americans are going to be left there after the bottom withdrawal, 440 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: and everyone that that I that I trust who's analysis 441 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: issue regards the chances as being slim, particularly because the 442 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 1: people have to make it to the airport in Kabul. 443 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: Afghanistan is a large country, uh nearly forty million people. Um, 444 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: so you know, for Americans who are living outside the 445 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: capital city, this is a very difficult journey during a 446 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: very difficult time. But but but just at a more 447 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: fundamental level, the only sentence that Joe Biden could have said, 448 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: in keeping with his constitutional oath, in keeping with his 449 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: moral duty to his own citizens, the only sentence he 450 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: could have said is the mission will end when all 451 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Americans are home. Anything other than that is a dereliction 452 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: of duty. It's just that simple. No, I agree with you. 453 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: Should they know how many Americans are in Afghanistan? Is 454 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: that something that they should have been able to figure out? 455 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: And if so, why don't they know or are they 456 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: just lying to us? A good question. I don't know 457 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: what they know or what they don't know, but we 458 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: are entitled to a by this point in time, a 459 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: very solid accurate estimate of how many citizens left and 460 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: how many citizens are still there? How many citizens are 461 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: lefting shouldn't be complicated because people will report to authorities 462 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: as being American citizens when they get on the plane, 463 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: So that should be pretty easy to get. As far 464 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: as how many are still there, uh, presuming the State 465 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Department has been contacted by the vast, vast majority of them, 466 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: And so I would think we'd have a pretty accurate 467 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: number at this point in time. And one can only 468 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: assume they're declining to share that number specifically so that 469 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: the math can't be done, Like, let's let's use common 470 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: sense here. Why are they so reticent to answer those 471 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: two questions, how many of left and how many are 472 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: still there? Well, it is to prevent you, Lisa, from 473 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: doing the math, from getting out of calculator and saying, 474 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: this is how many Americans are here, this is how 475 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: many left ergo, this is how many were left behind? 476 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: Is they don't give you those two numbers, Like I said, 477 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna be relying on alternative media to figure out 478 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: the answer to those questions, and they forget how many 479 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: Americans are in fact still stranded there quick break back 480 00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: with Steven Miller. So let's move to the you know, 481 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: the southern border, because obviously this has broader implications. You know, 482 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: we're not just worrying about importing tens of thousands of 483 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: unvetted people from Afghanistan. We also have a wide open 484 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: southern border that could also now be exploited for terrorists 485 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: purposes as well. You know, talk about that correlation and 486 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: sort of this broader danger of all these entry points 487 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: into the United States for potential bad actors. Well, but 488 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: just very simply, the the number of people every single 489 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: day who are quote unquote gotaways in other words, people 490 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: who make it into the United States, so that ever 491 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: even coming into contact with the border agent, depending on 492 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: estimates UH from people inside of government, ranges between one 493 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: thousand to two thousands a day. That should be bone 494 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: shilling to any thinking person. In other words, separate and 495 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: apart from catch and release, the which is of course 496 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: endemic across the entire southwest border, there's another one to 497 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: two thousand people that are getting in without ever coming 498 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: into contact with law enforcement. So it's an unconscionable threat 499 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: to our national security. Again, that's an addition to they 500 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: expanded refugee re settlement. That's an addition to the termination 501 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: of the travel ban on high thread countries. So this 502 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: isn't just gonna be a one to two year problem, 503 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: as I was saying earlier. This is going to be 504 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: an intergenerational problem like we have seen in European countries, 505 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: where when you when when when fundamentalist is longest extremism 506 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: gets a foothold in the country, it becomes a long 507 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: term problem. And that's what is happening today. We're gonna 508 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: be living with the results of this for a very 509 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: long time. Do you think the media is going to 510 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: let the Biden administration move on to in this? I mean, 511 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: we see he's always he's already tried to, you know, 512 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: sort of shift gears by talking about vaccines and trying 513 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: to chat. And we saw the other day when he 514 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: spoke his first topics were about the infrastructure bill, which 515 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: isn't really an infrastructure bill, uh, you know, corporate taxes, 516 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: all these other things, and then shifting to the what 517 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: is actually the most important and should have dominated from 518 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: the beginning, which is Afghanistan. Do you think the media 519 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: will allow that to happen? Do you think they're just 520 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: going to go along with it with Americans left behind? 521 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: I think when they regard as the earliest opportunity they 522 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: will try to but we are not helpless here. UM. Again. 523 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: I used the example of the Syrian refugee issue, UM, 524 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: which UM, I mean it's impossible to to really overstate 525 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: just how badly Obama box will Syria and Libya, creating 526 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: helping to create in Syria and certainly creating Libya refugee crisis. 527 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: The media wasn't inclined to cover the threats of that 528 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: post the United sids America UM from either a national 529 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: security standpoint or just a general public safety standpoint, but 530 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: conservatives made it into an issue that couldn't be forgotten, 531 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: that couldn't be neglect to ignore. So, whether it's the 532 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: stranding of American citizens, whether it's the open ended commitment 533 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: to resettle from Afghanistan anyone who doesn't wish to live there, 534 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: whether it is the sacking of of American assets and 535 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: property in Afghanistan, whether it is the resurgence of ISIS, 536 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: or any of these issues, it's really up to us 537 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: as conservatives to make it impossible to ignore. Well, and 538 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: you're doing that with America First Legal. Talk a little 539 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: bit about what America First Legal is, and then some 540 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: of the some of the lawsuits and projects you guys 541 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: are working on. So just in brief, and you can 542 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: go to a f legal dot org. That's a f 543 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: legal dot org to get more information, or you can 544 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: go to my Twitter handle at Steven M that's at 545 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Stephen M. And I'll be starting at gettor account soon 546 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: as well, where you can follow me to get all 547 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: the latest information. But we are the conservative answer to 548 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: the a c l U. We are already waging and 549 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: in some cases winning, the most important legal battles in 550 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: the country against unconstitutional behavior. We have successfully obtained preliminary 551 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: injunctions against two so called equity programs that granted government 552 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: benefits solely on the basis of race, one in the 553 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: cases of the case of the Restaurant Revitalization Fund, the 554 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: other in the case of U s T A debt relief. 555 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: We've worked with states that are suing the Abiden administration 556 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: over its ICE abolishing memos, and Ken Paxson recently obtained 557 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: and then an injunction in that lawsuit along with Louisiana, 558 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: for whom we are outside council. We're working with Ken 559 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: Paxson as well on a lawsuit to shut down COVID 560 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: catch release on the border. We will be announcing a 561 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: new other lawsuit very soon to do with transgender issues, 562 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: and we are also filing We just filed a lawsuit 563 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: to force the disclosure of records relating to the Body 564 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: of Administration determination of the State Department's investigation into the 565 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: true origins of COVID, And we're involved in many other 566 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: lawsuits that would be too numerous to mention right now. 567 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: But the point is that we are at the cutting 568 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: leading edge of the fight to save America in our courtrooms, 569 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: in the sphere of legal battle. And I urge everyone 570 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: who wants to help us out on that mission to 571 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: go again to a f legal dot org. Anything else 572 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: you want to add before we go, anything you think 573 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: it's important to get across to the audience that isn't 574 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: being mentioned about all this. I just want to conclude 575 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: by saying that there's no doubt that there's a humanitarian 576 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: crisis in Afghanistan, and none of us feels anything except 577 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: endless empathy for the people who will bear the brunch 578 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: of what is to come in Afghanistan. But if we 579 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: truly are determined to help relocate people who genuinely qualify 580 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: for refugee status. Then the right answer, the safe answer, 581 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: the same answer, to work with our partners in the 582 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: region to find them a place to locate nearest their 583 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: home country and that hopefully someday they can go back 584 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: to their home country and be part of the national rebuilding. 585 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Because the future for Afghanistan is not written, it is 586 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: not clear, it is not certain. The Taliban has a 587 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: monumental task ahead of it to maintain control over that country. 588 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: The goodest history look at how Ball told it's been. 589 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: The one thing I can assure you is that it 590 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: is neither in the interest of Afghanistan nor the United 591 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: States to resettle refugees in mass into our country. History 592 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: shows this to be true. Common sense shows us to 593 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: be true. So don't let people tell you that they 594 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: are that the Left is on the side of humanitarianism here. 595 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: They're not. The true humanitarian course of action to help 596 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: find people who need it a home closest to where 597 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: they come from in Afghanistan, And anyone who tells you 598 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: otherwise just doesn't understand the issue. Stephen Millard, thanks so 599 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: much for a time. I appreciate you joining us today, 600 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: appreciate your insight. Thank you so much. What do they 601 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: Stephen Millard for taking the time today to break this 602 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: complex issue down for you guys and for me as well. 603 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: And what are they you for listening? 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